Paragliding incident Sweden Härekeberga 20131012
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2016
- Paragliding incident Sweden Härekeberga 2013- 10-12
- We do not use the weak link.
- Swedish Accident Investigation Authoritys report: www.havkom.se/en/investigation...
"An aircraft of the model SAAB MFI 15 took off from Sundbro, Uppsala, for a
VFR flight to Johannisberg, Västerås. Shortly thereafter began winching of a
paraglider from Härkeberga, located along the aircraft's route.
At the final stage of the winching, at about 350 meters altitude, the paraglider
pilot saw an airplane coming straight at him at a slightly lower altitude. The
aircraft passed below the paraglider a few seconds later without colliding. The
height difference was estimated by the paraglider pilot to about 50 feet and the
distance to the line was 1 to 3 meters.
The pilot of the aircraft never perceived the event. The map data that the pilot
used - and which is the most widely used in general aviation - had no special
marking of the paragliding activities at Härkeberga. Neither the paraglider nor
the aircraft flew at altitudes implying contact with controlled airspace..."
Swedish newspapers:
www.expressen.se/nyheter/olive...
www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/art...
www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/upp...
www.unt.se/nyheter/enkoping/pl...
www.nyteknik.se/teknikrevyn/d...
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Why I look up and down all the time.
In order to keep the paraglider 90 degrees to the tow machine, you have to watch all the time against the paraglider and then against the towing machine. Especially when you are a beginner, as I was then, and if there is a sidewind. If you do not, there is a risk of getting lockout and dying. In my other videos, I usually cut off the head movements but in this video it was important not to cut out a few details in order to see the entire process.
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Optical illusion. It looks like the aircraft is only inches away from the line but in reality it was probably a foot.
1:36 optical illusion my ass!
Good grief!
Like Zoinks!
Code Three thats the joke brick
I Knoooow rite
In the UK powered winch for gliders and paragliders are registered and NOTAM'd (notice to airman). In the UK it is law to check NOTAMs before you fly (and it's drilled into you throughout training) Therefore in the UK this would be entirely the fixed wing pilot's fault and probably result in a meeting with the CAA.
Also, if the plane had hit the winch rope it would more than likely have destroyed the wing and killed everyone in the aircraft.
Nice to see you here. Hold Tight!
On the other hand if you had an ignition system failure and there was a nice big flat field what would you do? My friend had that on takeoff from Bankstown heading to Sydney. Choice, land in houses and factories or just put it down on the grass crossing 3 active runways with 8 aircraft in the circuit with two on finals. He did and he lives.
Not to mention the Paraglider pilot.
@@stevehyduke3015 Nope, The weak link would have snapped and he would be fine. But the rope might have wrapped around the wing of the plane and brought it down if the tow operator wasn't quick enough to use the emergency cut.
@@garrykennedy5484 I might be as worried about it being tangled up in the prop or propshaft. And I would worry about the well being of the Paraglider pilot anyway, those guys die often.
The plane is like: if he looks up ONE MORE TIME
Buddy should’ve pulled the release and separated the line as soon as he saw the plane approaching him at that angle
I'm a pilot and I could not pick out the traffic with enough time to make that decision and follow through. I would prefer a taught tow line for all involved in this case.
@@kingofcastlechaos exactly. Less margin of error.
What if he released the line and caused the plane to crash below him killing his by standing family only for him to lane safely a single man again. Lol
Yeah it seems like if he had dropped the line it might have fallen into the path of the plane.. probably a good job he didn’t detach
I would think if the plane caught the line the weak link would snap, so safer to sit tight and not risk the line falling into the plane 😬
It looked like it was about to crash! My heart stopped for a second
Oh hello there
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I watch your videos
this youtube-world is small. lol
Look look tha arri guy
It’s known as Fly by Wire. 👌
haha
Hahah Made my day 😂😂😂
death by wire
XDD
No... just no
Imagine the plane hit the rope and pull him to destination. The dual landing for both would have been historical.
Yep...I’ll take “shit you’ll never see me do” for 1,000 Alex...
1:33 you're welcome 😊
Steven Stammler is a true hero
Not all hero's wear capes
just the comment I was looking for!!!
SCARY AF.
It's 1:36
"Hey Olaf....grab my spare underwear from my car please."
gud comment
That would have been an interesting physics experiment if the plane was one meter over. Glad you are safe! 😯
Paragliding schools must also activate their training area in advance. I experienced something similar as an instructor. The pilot of the powder plane was only curious, and although he was not dangerous, a complaint was filed. The kite effect at high altitude from the wrong angle to the wind and the towing vehicle (you have to intuitively derive that angle) does not have to be fatal, because you can disconnect in an emergency and use a backup round parachute, depending on the situation. The kite effect is dangerous at low altitudes, when after the "edge" of the parachute you immediately fall to the ground ... it's an old video, so at the moment you probably have experience.
that's scary as fuck
indeed...
I find it interesting that the accident report states no serious consequences would have resulted if the plane had struck the line. I used to tow behind cars on a hang glider, and the line we used was several thousand-pound test line with a weak link.
I can only imagine that the paraglider line is similar, but as stated, no weak link. If the plane had struck the line, the line's not going to just snap -- so how does that lead to no serious consequences? The paraglider's going to get yanked REAL hard until it locks out, then something else is going to have to give -- the ATV? The plane's wing? By the time you get to several thousand pounds on the line, the paraglider will certainly have failed in some way. All around, a very bad day.
The line was 2.5 mm Dyneema
@@OliverTorlo Damn, that's thin! Still, 600kg test.
Conclusion of the report: "Recommendations: None".
It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
After the incident, we have had the opportunity in Sweden to mark all our winch fields on aircraft maps.
Celebrity death match?
My word! That is about as close as you can get! wow.
The whole looking up and down part was extremely annoying.
Alexander Grosset. He's checking his wing and upper airspace to which he assending into. Part of flying on tow my friend.
It's very critical task to check the wing alignment all the time while towing. Otherwise you may ended lockout situation and well.. You may dive at highspeed to the ground..
Yes, but remember its needed for safe flying. He's not there to make a movie for us.
I understand it's a necessity to do such thing but it is really annoying to watch.
@@SammYLightfooD If he is wearing a Gopro he is looking to get footage to show. If such comment was towards the fact that it is necessary to do the check to make sure his equipment was proper I understand that but there needs to be a better way to make video
Thanks for uploading!😇
That “ooofff!!” sound the pilot makes just as the plane passes within inches of his tow line is him soiling his pants.
:)
I don't know...I mean, he's the one with the parachute...
Maybe put the go pro on a chest mount instead of a head mount....
Nope. The angles are head mounted.
Question is:
Was airplane in prohibited airspace (due to paragliding activity) or, were people rope paragliding without proper authorization.
Neither. Both were in Class G airspace & thus both responsible for collision avoidance.
It may not have been controlled airspace, but he still flew right over another airport at low altitude, inviting a potential conflict with other air traffic around it. Poor form at the very least.
I do not understand why a paragliding site was not marked on the map that the pilot used (as I read in the description).
That moment when an NPC spawns at a questionable location.
I really appreciate your explanation in the description. Thanks. So how would you avoid this in future?
Not go up there.
Perhaps you should consider the use of a weak link it's there for a reason
If he had released that plane most likely would have gotten into the cable. Scary
I was thinking the same...loose cable drifting down, fouling the prop at low altitude.
But it would have been fun to watch. What a cool vid that would have been!
nice of him to bring the clangers along :)
lmao
Lol
Since this incident, all paragliders have held the line in their teeth for safety.
Since this incident, all paragliders have lost their teeth
@@crashtestdummy87 now when the crash they call them “gum drops” 😂
Wow! That was crazy close! What do you think the plane's altitude was? Glad you made it out of that one! 😃👍
According to the report, the para glider was at about 350m and estimated the plane to pass 50m below him.
There goes a perfect pair of
Underwear
chris chabra ... he color coded his shorts . Yellow in the front. Brown in the back .
that's the least funny dad joke i've ever heard.
My dump valve would have been working overtime...😂
How do you know they were perfect?
I'd be investing in an airman's radio tonight! What frequency is unicom in Sweden?
What that plane did is essentially the real world equivalent of "hehehe lol"
"The height difference was estimated by the paraglider pilot to about 50 feet and the distance to the line was 1 to 3 meters. "
It's arse about face. . . Small distances feet are better ( 6 ' tall ) ... Long distance meters is better ( 100m sprint ) ....
@@cuckingfunt9353 The report say "The height difference was estimated by the paraglider pilot to about 50 meters and the distance to the line was 1 to 3 meters. " I have no idea why it's translated to feet in the video description.
hights in aviation: feet!
1:34 Me: We are safe, it's just a video... We are safe it's just a video... (Heart missed a beat...) WE'RE NOT SAFE!
Sorry new to this.
How was the paraglider taken up in the air?
Well that was just plane reckless behaviour ;-) I'm here all week.
Nice
Gotta give you props on that one!
Congrats! This is the moment when you realize that you have just got a second life.
"Excuse me, Mr. Pilot...
would you mind winding my line up with your propellor? I am finished using it."
Did the flightradar24- playback function gave you the plane registration? Close call. Years went by. All smelly stains from the trousers removed i assume.
No, he flew over us a few hours later and then we could see his registration number with the binoculars.
Dude, someone needs to shock my heart back into rhythm.
Guy in the plane was running drugs.
Ronald Myers ..... and where do you think he was going with said drugs not that I would look him up or anything.
Ronald Myers ........... kinda looked like Barry Seal .
dammit larry, i wish youtube had emote reactions like FB, i about pissed myself i laughed so hard at the barry seal comment
Ronald Myers) no witnesses
Looked like the guy in the plane was cleaning his shorts.
Well that was close, I had an incident with a glider hatch opening upon landing. I'll post that soon!
Still waiting for that buddy
Só de ver já treme as pernas o sangue congela, mais é muito lindo.
Tremi na base. 😱😱😱😱😱😱
Ainda bem que não tinha cerol 🤭
Wow. Just how long IS that tether?
посмотрел видео, запор как рукой сняло. спасибо
In the UK we place the double cross sign on the ground which lets aircraft know there are wires in the air . Is this not common practice everywhere ?
Sorry, no, I'm a sailplane pilot from Germany and I've never heard about this practice
We do use yellow flashing lights tho, that are active as long as a winch cable is in the air. They are placed on both sides of the motor plane runway and are visible from both the air and from the place motor planes do their last check before takeoff / lineup position
@@CorruptoGrande it’s about 10 meters long and very visible from the air and I have seen a light aircraft approaching then suddenly deviate around us abs then back onto his original heading . He even waggled his winged to acknowledge us
Good to know ;) Safe flights mate :)
@@Gixer750pilot Whats this wing waggling business? Are they not stuck on to the hut on the aero plane?
sorry for stupid question but what would happened if he hit the line? I guess the plane would survive and paraglider had schute so he would still land or am I mistaken? would it actually drag him after the plane? or would it just cut the rope?
The description says they don't use the weak link.
'Lottery Ticket' moment 🎉
I saw something similar to this once from the ground. Our pilot was under tow at about 800 ft towards his 1200 ft goal before cut-a-way. Private plane came from his 6 o'clock flying illegally in the area at 1000 ft AGL level. Neither pilot could see the other. It was the scariest moment I'd ever witnessed from the ground. I still don't know how close they were? Very very close! It was so common and occurrence that it was never reported! We regularly flew outside and higher than we had permission to. Scary shit!
Hi! Is it possible to contact you regarding this video? (i.e. via email) I would love to discuss a permission to use your video if this is possible. Greetings!
That could have been so bad. Wow. I’m not going paragliding anytime soon thou so I don’t have to worry about it
Nope, according to the government report, even if the plan had hit the line, it would simply have snapped and everyone would have continued their flights without damage to anyone. As it was, the airplane didn't even know anything happened until he was informed the next day.
I'm here trying to watch the whole thing but every time they look up its like a cd skipping and I just can't take it.
I'm glad it was just bothering me. 😬😬😬
@@ClarkKulper I see its a common thing in paragliding videos so obviously its part of being safe but for viewing purposes its really difficult.
It is for current glide info. Tone and frequency change as glide does.
The sailing pilot may have survived a "strike" .Does the aircraft pilot even realize the near death encounter? Imagine that rope tangled in your prop!
The cable in the prop would be the best scenario if he hit it. Slicing a wing off on the other hand.
@@Yodrop According to the report, the line would have snapped in 0,7 sec. Resulting in a negligible loss of speed and a course deviation of less than 4 deg. The course deviation would have been rectified as a jerk-back as the line snapped.
@@Nizze82 That sounds very optimistic. I would expect the line to last bit longer and to throw the plane off its course by more than 4°. Or do some damage to a wing.
The line is the weakest link in this set up. The the stronger is the more damage it does. I think in hypothetical case of infinitely strong line the plane would crash.
The pilot passed within 50ft of a paraglider? Forget the rope, that alone is a serious incident. If you can't see a 30ft wide canopy directly in front of you, with the sun behind you, there is cause for concern.
great!
short but wonderful 😉💙
Glider pilot FROZE, should have released the cable the moment he saw the plane!!!!
doestn wrk like that, its kinda hard to grab the release that fast in gloves. it happenet too fast
Krisztián he saw the plane around 1:32 and it didn't pass the rope until 1:36, that's around 4 seconds, MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME, watch how fast he released towards the end. He FROZE 100%, which is a bad trait for any pilot!
did u winch? your arms high up you leaned back like in an armchair and concentrated on the canopy to keep straight. you have to come forward w abs muscles... it's kinda slow in my experience. and how do you know when he spotted the plane?
You said it yourself! He was checking his canopy every SECOND then when the plane appeared he FROZE and stared at the plane without reacting...DERP
YZFoFittie froze my ass. he was prolly checking the winch machine cos he was at the end of the track and the pulling force letting down as you can hear from the vario sound. I bet he only noticed the situation at minus 3 secs, that's very short to react to this nonsensical situation. but it might as well be that he only realised when he said uh-huh! it's a different thing up there the sun+wind in your eyes etc, it's not playstation... You don’t have situational awareness like when you watching it on video
Amazing they were able to figure out who the airplane was and investigate exactly what happend. I bet the pilot was really surprised he had no idea how close he came to possible crash. My guess is if he had hit the to line the paragliding would have just released and floated down the plane most likely would have been damaged, at best wound the cable around the prop. At worst rapped around one wing and been like a control line model airplane smashing it into the ground. The line could have also broken but my guess is those lines are very strong.
Two questions: 1-Where is this cable hooked at? 2- Why does he keep looking up?
So, for most of the video we see the sky. Where id the incident?
Я сидя на диване чуть не обосрался... (I almost pooped sitting on the sofa)
А я стоя над унитазом обосрался..вот чудеса то!
I really like the decision of the paraglider pilot not to let go of the tow line until the plane passes
Know what you mean. But I'm unsure whether he stood a chance to do that quickly enough. Reaction time-wise, I mean. That happened so fast.
I don’t think there was any time to react. It looked like one of those OMG moments where you’re just frozen. At least I would have been.
I guess a taut line is easier to be severed by the plane than a lose, falling wire. Just an opinion.
@@dooboodot You’re right. However I don’t think the line would have severed if it were taut.
The impact would have either collapsed the paraglider wing or ripped hip from his harness and both would end in free fall and subsequent death.
Another scenario is the line would reel him into the airplane prop and blend him into pieces
Yes! Yes, aviation and air sports are very fast
The plane flies down wind let's assume it was flying at 80 Knots plus 20 from the paraglider would give you 100 knots +160 Km/h EXTREMLY low
Something similar happened to me as well, just in a glider. I launched as normal, but at about 300m my collision warning system went off. Seconds later I see a Robin DR400 doing a midfield crossing about 50m above me flying right to left. It obviously wasn't as close as this one, but you do get scared regardless :D
For context I launched from a regular airfield, which is marked in the map to have parachute, aerobatics and gliding activity!!! Not a place you should be flying low. He obviously wasn't on frequency...
Thinking about it now I maby should have reported it, idk.
That just about got real exciting for three people
That could of been an RC plane ? Hard to tell , . If you don't see RC place offen in the air , you don't know what I'm talking about .. regardless it could of sucked for somebody or everyone that had contact ..!
It was a Private SE- FIO, SAAB MFI 15 Model 200Az
Pilot was 69 years old with a PPL(A) license. Flight time 3092 hours were of 2200 on this type. The pilot did not even see the line.
No, it wasn't an RC plane.
incident?
Corey Glimpse 1:36, but probably fake
'near miss/near collision incident' - there doesn't necessarily have to be broken bones, blood and shattered pieces of aircraft for it to an 'incident'; Soiled underwear can also be an 'incident'!
*United States Police* real
www.havkom.se/en/investigations/civil-luftfart/allvarligt-tillbud-vid-haerkeberga-den-12-oktober-2013-med-flygplanet-se-fio-av-typen-saab-mfi-15-och-en-flygskaerm-av-typen-ozone-mojo
G PMO Thank you
The overall conclusion from the study is that no serious consequences would have occurred in a collision between the aircraft and the paragliderline.
The incident was caused by the pilots flight maps lacking data on paragliding activities at Härkeberga which meant that the flight could not be planned and carried out safely. Contributing factor has been reduced visibility due to backlight conditions.
Recommendations: None
*In other words this could happen again!! and if the aircraft had been just slightly higher?! who knows what might happen.
Why you didn't cut off, when saw aircraft arriving ??
Is there a quick release on the tow line?
Yes, and there is also a breakable link on the line, so that too much force will break the line
The pilot of that plane seems to be using Rick and morty Portal gun?
thought the same, doesn't matter how hard you look on the shot before lol
this is a fake video..
@@gualbertoff hey dummy read the incident report. It's real.
"Oof, that was 2m from the line" was what he said, for all non-nordic people. 😁
Holy crap I had to rewatch this and pause the video to see just how close the plane was to the tow rope!
What is the beeping thing?
Wow. How was it even possible you could fly in that airspace? No regulations?
the same way he is flying a parasail, class E airspace in the US, see and avoid. problem is for the plane, how do you avoid something you cant see, and the parasail, how do you avoid if you cant maneuver.
@@MrBammbalamm Tow sites are still restricted airspace, when active
Holy cow that was close :o
That's way more than 50' away. I'm sure it seemed closer but the wingspan of that airplane is probably around 30' (C-150 is 33', C-172 is 36', PA-28-140 is 30'). At 50' away you'd be able to make eye contact with the pilot, see what color shirt he's wearing, etc.
How high was that winch launch??? Only ever winched to 1500ft in a glider before.
Слава богу самолёт трос не цепанул. А то беда могла случиться
Трос бы лопнул просто
Охренеть самолёт рядом с тросом прошёл ✈️🤭
Would it have snapped the line or pulled him down?
i'd say the glider and the atv would have met in the middle. lol
Genius Idea:
If you run out of storage in the back of your car, tow a glider with the rest inside.
Судьба легонечко потролила👍
офигенно )))
The ga pilot should have read the Notam, this is probably a special rules zone, he should know. Glad no one was injured.
How long was that tow rope?
What's the line attached to? I've never seen this form of take-off method.
If the plane is flying as low as some have suggested, why is there no shadow?...even though the sun is setting the angle should be wide enough to capture the shadow...also I could not detect the plane in the shot before...what am I missing?
Joseph Brian Shubert not wide enough to capture it
Elvis and Micheal are alive, the Earth is flat, aliens are at Roswell, humans never went to the moon, and Billy Joel plays great music. Obviously this video is yet another conspiracy since there is no shadow of the plane and it is not visible until it is. Good catch. Add it to the list.
Joseph Brian Shubert So, it’s fake?
1:34 не благодарите
Spasibo.
@@RobertMounceOnLine Varsågod
I’d say the plane may have crashed 1st in this scenario, followed 3s later by the paraglider, did something similar with a motorbike pulling me up and I ended up pulling the bike into the air then crashing from collapsing the shoot by braking too hard. Won’t be doing that ever again, so basically a tether is not a great idea.
That surpasses my midair! Wow!
If that guy didn’t shit his pants, he is officially the chillest dude on the planet.
That happened so fast that I doubt you would have time to have a shit.
That'll give you a pucker factor of about 9.
I'd say 10.5 just because you could almost hear it pucker when he saw the plane lol. it could have been really bad
Were they on the approach way for aircraft?
No.
What would happen if fixed wing came I contact with the line while getting taxied on a parachute from a 4weel to all parties?
It sounds impossible.... Things like that don't happen in real life... LOL :-)
This is what I call a NEAR MISS. !!! Thanks to heaven there was that single one meter between the wing of the plane and the tow-line. I wish you many safe flights and hope
you did not use up all your luck-contigent at once.. All the best !!!!!
Actually it was a complete miss . It was a near hit though :)
Benny, it most certainly was a near miss. There was no collision at all.
yeh except there was abot 100 foot between the wing and the cable
It's a near hit.. a near miss is a hit.
Isn't a "near miss and nearly miss" the same thing?
Of all the space available to fly in the sky on this planet, what are the chances that in that one tiny little spot of the world, those two would have to meet in nearly the exact same spot?! I'm sure glad it turned out the way it did. It could have been a deadly disaster.
It's called the "Big Sky, Little Plane" theory... and it's not a good one to live by
If they land and take off from the same, or nearby, fields, those chances are greatly increased.
I love sweden! Jag älskar sverige
I played that at slow-mo. Looked at it frame by frame. That plane missed that tow line by only a few inches. THAT was close !
1:34 I release my end of the cable/rope.
I had the experience of a flight of fighter jets passing underneath me while I was in free fall, I believe that resulted in a flight leader and air control officer being demoted
thats almost cooler than having a meteorite zip past you. i love fighter jets, theres nothing more extreme
I guess one question one could ask is, what the hell was that airplane doing so low? Was there an airfield somewhere? And that was final approach? It was really low. Dangerous flying.
I don't know the laws where he was flying but in the US it's 500ft. for general aviation. There's nothing particularly dangerous about it other than the inherent risk of aviation itself. Neither of these guys were doing anything wrong.
@@cloudkicker9593 But doing something stupid. Any flying below 1000' AGL is dumb and dangerous. Let alone whatever altitude that was. Dont remember how high the guy flew? Regardless, flying low in a single or twin is a recipe for insurance claim. I've flown low a few times, out of stupidity. Spent most of the time swerving to miss geese and vultures and other birds. Let alone towers and CAT. Stay safe.
Whats that thing making the noise?
It's a wonder he doesn't have whiplash from moving his head up and down
You must have your head on a flip top because you need to check that your wing is perpendicular to your direction of the tow line otherwise it gets dangerous fast.
I was being towed up and when I pulled the handle to release it didn’t work on the first pull. I think on the second pull o breaker on the side it was out of line on, making it extremely out of line in 1 second. I was turned 90 degrees and could have started diving at the ground like a stunt kite. But at that moment the tow operator disengaged the pulling and I could straighten up. Then I detached and flew down.
If it kept on going like that for more than another second I would have pulled my reserve parachute. Fortunately there was time in the day for one more tow up so I could get back on the horse, so to say.