Always loved Rachmaninov’s music. My admiration for him doubled when I got hold of his complete recordings as pianist and conductor. Soon after that my admiration doubled yet again when the first recording is his Vespers, conducted by Sveshnikov came out in the late 60. What a great man he was!
Glad you noted Rachmaninoff's own recordings. According to credible sources who saw him perform in his late years, he played with almost amazing speed and clarity.
Oh, Dave, hehe! I was the "one of you" who said we didn't need 16 videos for Rachmaninov (while thanking you for doing that many for Ravel). It was just a jibe. I adore Rachmaninov & am looking forward to this. Glad to give you a hook for your standard Rachmaninov apologia, though! 😁
Thanks Dave! I'm looking forward to seeing what you've got squirreled away for Rachmaninov. He's one of my favourite composers, and I've come to admire his music more as I get older: I think when younger I was a bit in the camp of - this is gorgeous, so I shouldn't like it, but now I know better. Looking at his piano music (I can't play it, but a cat can look at a king, no?) I really admire his compositional style and how it evolves over the preludes and Etudes Tableaux. So knock yourself out, I'm here for all 15 rachmaninov vlogs.😀
Your Crumb story reminded me of a Mendelssohn story. After Donizetti's Daughter of the Regiment premiered, some echt Deutsch "serious" musicians, steeped in heilige Deutsche Kunst, mentioned to the redicoverer of Bach and the upholder of the great German traditions, how deplorable that fluff of Donizetti's was. To which Mendelssohn replied that he found it delightful and "quite wished he could have written it himself."
Great! I am particularly interested in what may follow in the Rachmaninov Overflow Reviews. I absolutely share the enthusiasm about the Jansons and Svetlanov recordings, and I also adore some of the Sanderling and Ashkenazy interpretations. Still looking for a sonically stunning and at the same time musically hair-rising recording of the Symphonic Dances, but this is probably not in the Overflow Room, I guess...
@@yundichen8332 Thank you so much! Just listened to it in Qobuz, as did not know this version with the Minnesota Orchestra. It comes indeed with great sound, but the tempi are a bit on the slow side for my taste. I then listened to the piano version, played by Dong Hyek Lim and Marta Argerich. Wow, that a direct and cristal-clear sound! The interpretation is fine to me, but not my favourite.
Finally Rachmaninoff, thank you. I'm interested, what is the best recording of prince rostislav. from what i have heard yet, it's the the greatest composition.
A favorite composer. "But it's all warhorses!" Yes, there's a good reason for that. I had that Horowitz recording on vinyl, back in the day, and boy, was it a letdown. Just dull, Horowitz phoning it in. But it had been hyped so strongly that NO recording could have lived up to expectations. (And I just broke out another disc of the Complete Crumb Edition, which I learned about on YOUR CHANNEL!)
Actually I haven’t heard anyone recommending that later Horowitz recording! You may or may not like his performances but I’d have thought one of the mono ones with Coates, or Barbilloli or Reiner depending on taste vastly better And for a host of reasons you really should hear this artist in this work, despite less than ideal sound and balances
Jed Distler once mentioned Ashkenazy/Haitink as a reference recording of No. 1 (in some review on CT), and re-visiting that recording I was very much impressed by its power. Easily the best performance in that cycle. An ideal Ashkenazy Rachmaninov cycle would be, to my mind: 1. Haitink 2. Kondrashin 3. Ormandy (or the rather different Fistoulari) 4. Previn
Always loved Rachmaninov’s music. My admiration for him doubled when I got hold of his complete recordings as pianist and conductor. Soon after that my admiration doubled yet again when the first recording is his Vespers, conducted by Sveshnikov came out in the late 60. What a great man he was!
Glad you noted Rachmaninoff's own recordings. According to credible sources who saw him perform in his late years, he played with almost amazing speed and clarity.
Oh, Dave, hehe! I was the "one of you" who said we didn't need 16 videos for Rachmaninov (while thanking you for doing that many for Ravel). It was just a jibe. I adore Rachmaninov & am looking forward to this. Glad to give you a hook for your standard Rachmaninov apologia, though! 😁
You're the best!
Thanks Dave! I'm looking forward to seeing what you've got squirreled away for Rachmaninov. He's one of my favourite composers, and I've come to admire his music more as I get older: I think when younger I was a bit in the camp of - this is gorgeous, so I shouldn't like it, but now I know better. Looking at his piano music (I can't play it, but a cat can look at a king, no?) I really admire his compositional style and how it evolves over the preludes and Etudes Tableaux. So knock yourself out, I'm here for all 15 rachmaninov vlogs.😀
Your Crumb story reminded me of a Mendelssohn story. After Donizetti's Daughter of the Regiment premiered, some echt Deutsch "serious" musicians, steeped in heilige Deutsche Kunst, mentioned to the redicoverer of Bach and the upholder of the great German traditions, how deplorable that fluff of Donizetti's was. To which Mendelssohn replied that he found it delightful and "quite wished he could have written it himself."
Rachmaninoff is the quintessential example of the "if it's popular it can't be any good" school of musical snobbery.
Great! I am particularly interested in what may follow in the Rachmaninov Overflow Reviews. I absolutely share the enthusiasm about the Jansons and Svetlanov recordings, and I also adore some of the Sanderling and Ashkenazy interpretations. Still looking for a sonically stunning and at the same time musically hair-rising recording of the Symphonic Dances, but this is probably not in the Overflow Room, I guess...
try Eiji Oue
@@yundichen8332 Thank you so much! Just listened to it in Qobuz, as did not know this version with the Minnesota Orchestra. It comes indeed with great sound, but the tempi are a bit on the slow side for my taste.
I then listened to the piano version, played by Dong Hyek Lim and Marta Argerich. Wow, that a direct and cristal-clear sound! The interpretation is fine to me, but not my favourite.
I believe Rachmaninov Symphony No 1 has that massive Gong Tam Tam at the very end of the Symphony ?
Yes
Rachmaninoff has been my favorite since I was a teen. I’m 62 now. 16 videos would be awesome!
Glad to hear your take on the Horowitz. I fully agree.
Finally Rachmaninoff, thank you. I'm interested, what is the best recording of prince rostislav. from what i have heard yet, it's the the greatest composition.
A favorite composer. "But it's all warhorses!" Yes, there's a good reason for that. I had that Horowitz recording on vinyl, back in the day, and boy, was it a letdown. Just dull, Horowitz phoning it in. But it had been hyped so strongly that NO recording could have lived up to expectations. (And I just broke out another disc of the Complete Crumb Edition, which I learned about on YOUR CHANNEL!)
Actually I haven’t heard anyone recommending that later Horowitz recording! You may or may not like his performances but I’d have thought one of the mono ones with Coates, or Barbilloli or Reiner depending on taste vastly better
And for a host of reasons you really should hear this artist in this work, despite less than ideal sound and balances
Naive listener here. Tell the snobs that few composers have consistently written as much approachable and listenable music as this guy.
Jed Distler once mentioned Ashkenazy/Haitink as a reference recording of No. 1 (in some review on CT), and re-visiting that recording I was very much impressed by its power. Easily the best performance in that cycle.
An ideal Ashkenazy Rachmaninov cycle would be, to my mind:
1. Haitink
2. Kondrashin
3. Ormandy (or the rather different Fistoulari)
4. Previn