Gregory: Eating a yellow bear ice cream Vanessa: Eating an ice cream similar to the one baby was going to give Elizabeth Freddy: Damn this air really hits the spot
I genuinely don't care it the theories are right or not I just love hearing them explained. I mean you gotta remember this entire channel is called game THEORY
I really like the theory of Gregory being the crying child because it means that he overcame his fear and he’s literally best friends with what used to make him so scared. It means that Afton didn’t win, and The brothers can finally get some peace
Whether the theory ends up being correct or not, I think we can all thank MatPat and his team for coming up with these theories and piecing them together via videos for us!
Yeah. The effort with the VO, editing, scripts, enthusiasm and loads of other stuff always outweigh any complicated theories in my book! Even if i DO like this theory XD
@@adamnielson42 True, but hating on Mat, and completely disregarding his points is also wrong. Regardless of wether you think he's right, the evidence is still there for something. Mat is just giving an explanation he thinks is best with what we know, even if it doesn't completely fit. I don't even think he fully believes everything about these theories, he's just waiting for evidence to come up, and possibly find a better explanation.
I've said it before in a previous theory vid, but I'll say it again. Robot children built by regretful fathers gives me incredibly strong Astro Boy vibes, and I'm so here for it.
to be fair, it’s a pretty divisive game too. i think, next to fnaf world ofc, it’s one of their lower points and it really shows in the fandom. plus it was a pretty funny graphic
As if the final 3 star ending illustration of a franschise that is heavily based on lore had the illustrators “accidentally” just put in some random ice creams with funny looking shapes lmao. It’s crazy to chalk it up to a mistake over a very intentional design decision
I got a question the only thing I’m confused by in the theory is bill=will how is Bill short for William if his name was like will then I would understand
@@corruptedbeastvoid If I remember correctly, there was this huge trend of rhyming nicknames in the middle ages. So they would shorten a name William->Will and then change the first letter Will->Bill. That version just remained popular since then. There are quite a few examples of this, such as Bob (Robert), D ick (Richard) and Peggy (Margaret).
I’ve been rewatching all his theories from beginning till now, and I don’t understand why the community hates matpats theories for crying child, it literally makes perfect sense, the community is just mad that their favorite horror game story is going in a new direction for some reason
You will find many things we believe are facts, such as gravity and plate technoics are in fact theories. Because scientists can be very confident in their answers with well documented and supporting evidence. But unless we get God or whatever created the universe to confirm our answers, like a teacher grading a quiz, we can't say for certain. After all, much of science evolved from incorrect assumptions or that things are much more complicated than we originally thought. Like quantum mechanics. So yeah, Matpat 100% is giving us a theory because the evidence is there, even if that theory isn't confirmed.
@@GFCOLCQuote Yeah, a theory has been and can be tested. A hypothesis is just guessing the outcome with what you know. That's why he calls the incomplete theories hypotheses.
Only for fans over 18 years old Aishite.Tokyo/shizumi ❤🔥 mañas no se la Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy . Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾 Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente 💗❤️💌💘
Not disagreeing, but Gregory would look different to Freddy no matter what he is, Freddy's never had x-ray eyes before, so seeing a human skeleton in Gregory should be just as surprising to Freddy as seeing a robot skeleton
Not disagreeing, but Gregory would look different to Freddy no matter what Freddy's never had x - ray eyes before, so seeing a human skeleton 🦴 in Gregory should be just as surprising to Freddy as seeing a robot 🤖 skeleton
i find it astonishing that even with all the hate MatPat got for his theories, he didnt take them to heart and continued doing what he loves. Amazing work, man
Only for fans over 18 years old Aishite.Tokyo/shizumi ❤🔥 mañas no se la Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy . Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾 Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente 💗❤️💌💘
It feels like this specific game finally fits the "this is purgatory" theory. The 3 kids all died and had unresolved isses that are solved in the Savior ending.
I like the purgatory theory but it honestly may be because I want Micheal to finally be a rest after all the stuff he went through and go through more stuff caused by his father
Regardless of whether these characters are *literally* the Afton kids, I think MatPat is 100% about it being a symbolic reunion. The crying child got bullied by animatronics, now his stand-in gets to conquer them mano-a-mano. Michael threw his life away getting justice for his siblings and other victims, and now Freddy gets to help them in michael’s death. Elizabeth never got the chance to live and become a person at all, so Vanny has to be saved from brainwashing to get a second shot at growing up. It doesn’t all have to make sense logically, only emotionally - which it does.
THIS right here backs matpats theory by a lot. plus, why would they put a random picture of a kid, a robot and a woman in the truest of the endings? it doesn't make sense. it's HAS to define something meaningful, maybe to wrap up the (final?) game of the franchise. It doesnt make the most sense for them to casually highlight the three main characters sitting on a hill towards the sunset, in a game where the afton kids (including MIchael) speculated to suddenly and literally go missing and unmentioned at ALL
Whether you like the theories or not, just realize that he has put a lot of effort into this. And that he and his team are amazing and that he is still doing strong like 11 years later. Thanks MatPat for everything!
Having watched the next episode, I love how Fnaf has reached the point where ‘Hiding in an arcade cabinet that can only be reached by finding a hidden, disguised and completely optional door that will only open if you use the camera item to flash a bunch of scattered cardboard cutouts without the game giving you any reason to do so’ qualifies as ‘hiding in plain sight’
@@soundwavesuperior28 it's a load of garbage but is also the most entertaining thing ever- how could someone not find william afton's return in almost every game hilarious? like does he just NOT die?!
along with gregory eating the freddy ice cream and Vanessa eating the ice cream cone, Michael could be somehow be connected to the fact that all thats left of him is his head, possibly referencing back to the foxy plush missing its head and the fact that he always hid behind a foxy mask
I feel like the perfect ending to this franchise would be a movie or animated series that shows the entire timeline. And it’s in chronological order, a straightforward answer would be nice.
How is Matpat still sane after making this many FNAF theories? Matpat ever gives up! Instead of ruining my childhood since 2011, for me it’s making my childhood since 2011! Matpat is amazing!
Funfact: Freddy's bow tie becomes purple after getting Chica's voicebox, Roxanne's eyes make him see purple too and Montgomery's claws are also purple.
I hate it. We need new characters like glamrock Freddy and Gregory. Steel Wool should not be going back to old, completed characters anymore. Michael, crying child and Elizabeth should not be brought back. They had their stories. This new era of fnaf should be treated as such.
Hey, I was listening to the voices of Baby and Vanessa and realised they sounded VERY similar, looked it up and yep! They're the same voice actor. Adds even more to the evidence of them being the same character.
@@lactosemilkk yeah you have a point, possibly because they have a voice actor who can voice a lot of characters but I feel like baby and Vanessa sound just similar in general whereas Gregory doesn't exactly sound like them, just a child
right? especially pertaining to stuff from the books. Mat: these are things that exist in the FNAF universe as a whole, so they can exist in the games, too. Internet: but I don't like the books. Me: ...so? that doesn't mean that there's no useful pieces to the puzzle in them!
@@pelahnar4 the books and the games are different sets of canon I think. That means that the stories may be different but it's in the same world using the same rules
@@silentoccasion4359 The books and the games are both canon to the franchise, but exist on different continuities. Think of it more like parallel dimensions so to speak. Drawing connections from one to answer a question from another; that's how lore like this works. FNAF by far isn't the first to do this, but it's the only one I've seen where the fandom is so against doing so despite it being the creator's original intention.
I always saw theories as fun thought experiments based on the rules, evidence, and given lore of a media, whether loosely or to the letter. But I never saw it as something that had to absolutely had to be true. It was just something fun and goofy to argue about with friends. So I don't really understand why someone would get mad about it. It's just someone's preferred head cannon. Even if I don't agree with it, it's just fun to see something I like through someone else's eyes. Maybe that's just me.
the evidence he provided is definitely stronger than whatever counter argument one might have regarding the gregbot theory, and the bitten off ice cream cements it (or at the VERY least the parallels between greg and CC) in a nearly indisputable way. also, everybody has their own opinions theyre entitled to and the memes were funny, but can we at the very least appreciate how he managed to make a valid theory out of a /clearly/ unfinished game whose story was /clearly/ changed at the last second? cmon now
@@hunterblackwolf8062 there's a lot of variables we have to consider, like greg not being in the system or old willy poo not being able to recognize him as someone already said, OR he cant for some reason we've yet to find out, or he has some ulterior motives (after all, he COULD have gone and k*lled greg even without hacking him, so the point still stands).
Honesty, I'd forgotten about the glitchiness in Gregoy's eyes being so similar to the ones of the security camera. But, that would explain why there's also an effect on the screen when our old pal MoonDrop's out and about, when you get the (in my opinion very pretty) overlay of the stars and sparkles. Not sure that'd make much sense to happen to a normal child, unless he ate some of those sleepytime candies that messed him up.
Not to start a fight or anything but I feel like it’s just a game mechanic, dawko said that and I believe that was it is. Lots of games can do that and they have no meaning other than letting you know that there danger, when the animatronics spot you it gives you a chase sound so you know that you were spotted and have to get away. It is possible that if he is a robot and Vanessa uses and sort of cloaking device so she can’t be seen then I would consider it, but I think sense she reacts differently than the others it is just there to let you know who specifically is chasing you
In the 16th tape, the therapist actually reveals that Vanessa was lying about her parents and her parents were actually normal. She had a normal childhood. So her dad can't be William Afton. Also if Vanessa is 20 years old and this game takes place in the future, it would make the events of the original games over 40 years ago; after William had already died numerous times. How would William come back to life, have a baby as a dead dude, then die again? Vanessa is too young to be his child. UNLESS SHE'S ALSO A ROBOT..
"An empty tomb" in Ballora's distant singing might mean that if she is possesses by Mrs. Afton, her grave would be empty, having her soul in Ballora And at the family table in Chica's Basement, the "mom" has blue hair in a bun, supporting the theory
also adding to the fact that gregory can enter freddy, he can even control him. If the hatch was only made for gifts and oversized birthday cakes then thered be no control panel a human could use since there'd be no use for it. So since we control what freddy does when were inside him, Gregory would be getting into his system controlling his motor functions of walking. And since its been proved that freddy had 2 souls in him before one got freed, its most likely possible that two animatronics could function in one body
The fact that Matt saw the "ooo gator golf" vid and ALSO the Freddy memes really makes me happy. It just shows how active Mat is in the fandom and it warms my heart by the amount of effort put into these videos
Supporting the idea that animatronics can have human characteristics: Chica in this game has a functioning olfactory system. When you put the Monty mix in the trash compactor, she specifically says that she "smells pizza."
I’d also like to point out that Heather Masters, the VA for Baby, is also the VA for Vanessa. Some might say they are just reusing actors, but clearly the series has the budget now to get different actors if they wants to, so just another piece of evidence to support Vanessa being Elizabeth.
No, but the family theory make sense. IN the FNaF Character encyclopedia, it's mentioned at the end of SB, Gregory, Freddy's head and Vanessa are seen sitting together eating ice-cream, "forming an odd little family unit", and that it's "a happy ending at last". Coincidence?
i got into the games and the theories when i was like 9, i’m turning 18 this year. i have literally grown up with this series and matpats theories. thanks matpat for being a huge part of my life growing up
Same, but now I actually acknowledge and understand the theories better than when I was a kid. I have to admit that I just thought Mat was really just a smart person even though I only understand half of what he says. Now that I actually can understand things better. Looking back at his theories makes me appreciate them more.
There's is one point in the series that could clean up the lore a tiny bit. The stichwrath storyline in the Fazbear Fright books says that inanimate objects can be infused with human emotions. What if that is what Springtrap is now? William Afton himself is dead, burning in hell, thanks to Cassidy, but his rage and fear of death are still infecting the suit, but without Afton actually there, the rage would no longer have a source and it would just be a matter of burning out what's left, which is why Springtrap is in that charging chamber, trying to preserve what little power they have and is using Vanny to do most of the dirty work of killing kids. It could also explain the Blob. The souls have in fact moved on, but the embers of their suffering are tied to William's rage and insane ploys of escaping death, so they linger for as long as that does.
Only for fans over 18 years old Aishite.Tokyo/shizumi ❤🔥 mañas no se la Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy . Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾 Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente 💗❤️💌💘
I have the same clock that hangs on the wall in the sister location room at the beginning of this video. We've had this clock for a while now. My life might be in danger C:
There's a reason why we have Funtime Freddy and Circus baby, but not Molten freddy and Scrap baby. In Fnaf SL, all the funtimes get scooped, and we see their shells still intact in the scooping room. It wouldn't be hard to imagine that Fazbear Entertainment kept a few of the original shells, and have them for display in the display cases in rockstar row.
Another thing of importance to note I think is how glamrock freddy says "I am not me". It is such a weird phrasing that for me it felt like a parallel to golden freddy's "it's me".
YES. The issues and general weirdness with this game really muddy the waters for me. Take for example, when Vanessa tells you to come to the main stage at 6 am, only for there to be nothing there. Who knows what other pieces of dialogue are meaningless or should have been cut out
Sorry if anyone said this already but how did Chica know Gregory's name if supposedly Gregory made it up earlier that day when talking to Freddy (when he stutters)
Ah- well vennesa (Vanny) was listening to Freddie and Gregory when they were talkin through the watch. So she installed this information in the animatronics somehow? So ye that's why-
It's nice to see Matt taking the backlash so well now compared to in the past. He's definitely come a long way since the "Sans is Ness" thing. I personally don't really care whether or not the theories are "correct" or anything, I just like watching the videos.
Okay, I have to say the part about Michael talking through the Fredbear plushie's radio, is actually great. And connecting it with Glamrock Freddy as possessed by Michael, is even better. I dunno, it just works for me.
I'm usually quite open to these theories but if Roxy's eyes do show Gregory's endoskeleton wouldn't she have seen him through walls, making hiding pointless.
Just a gentle reminder for everyone: Take these theories for what they are. Investigative speculation. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing worth being uncivil about.
More than anything, they're just for fun. Even if a theory is totally wrong, it's an interesting case of collecting scattered lore bits and going, "what if?" I enjoy that.
The fact that both Gregory and crying child had a “Golden Freddy” that was with them all throughout the game is enough to convince me that they represent each other.
That’s probably the worst mindset to have in the FNAF community. Take every theory, even MatPat’s theories, with a little bit of doubt. Wait for more evidence to come out, see what everyone else thinks, etc.
@@colapepsiman9938 worst mindset, period. There's never a situation in life where, "hey, he said it so I'll just go along" is the correct answer. The very pinnacle of naivety.
I love how Matpat seems to have this "Yeah I DID do that :]" energy when it comes to the Megalovania thing Feels nice after years of literal jokes and low blows about it
@@Sealysleepy the watch thing doesn't come up if you're going from a link from when a video's uploaded, it has the youtu .be there instead of the full watch part.
The thing I love about fnaf, is that Scott leaves so much stuff empty for us to make our own theories. It’s like making it our own, while it’s still his story.
Honestly, what was so outlandish about proposing that Gregory is a robot? Like he said, it’s been a thing in the books for years now. Really, of all things, _this_ was too much?
Yeah i don’t understand this one makes more sense than Vanessa being circus baby now, heck someone should mention to matpat about the blueprints in Fnaf 6 there is one that actually could help validate the theory
That the books are dumb. Seriously, remember when FNaF was a story about children ghosts in robots? Why couldn't it have stayed that way instead of adding robot children, Fazgoo, Lonely Freddies, and other outlandish concepts?
@@tragedyplustime8271 The game wouldn't have been so intriguing if it was so simple. The whole reason the franchise is still alive and has over 9 games, and more to come, and yet still gets searched by an active audience is because of the unending mysteries and overcomplicated lore. It's quite successful, there's no denying that.
I feel bad for MatPat literally getting hate and slandered when he had pretty solid theory- and if you've been following along with all his fnaf theories, everything really does connects together along with evidences in the game itself-
I personally slightly disagree with alot of these theories but well there're just theories some make sense to some and outlandish to other but still no hate
@@thegamingpuppet8381 It's ok to disagree and yea it's just a theory but some new fans are making such a big mess- or some who aren't and disagrees still put slander on MattPat's theory- which is wrong-
Hey Matthew! The animatronic at 16:32 that you call a "random endoskeleton", it's actually Foxy! You can tell by the missing right eye and the "pointy" mouth shape! It's just an interesting detail that I wanted to share! :D
I haven't played a single game in this franchise but I really enjoy the lore via these theories --glad for all the hard work! Wish I'd started watching GT Live sooner!
I have had a few games on mobile. I have OG FNAF, sister location, and pizza simulator (on PC). I've played simulator the most, but I can't do the next one after trash baby, even she freaks me out. I love the games through watching Markaplier, and some other youtubers. The only game I've been able to play is Security breach. I know when I'm going to get jump scared, so it helps me. I panic too quick with the sound queues in the other games xD.
Honestly I don't see why anybody needs any more evidence than the fact that both vanny and Gregory are wearing purple in the three star ending. That's like, the one thing that's been kept sacred - they're both aftons
She could be what I like to call a ,,metaphor character". We know that Scott like to do that to give cluese on the lore for other characters. She might not actually be Elizabeth, but representing Elizabeth so that we get a closer look at her story.
She could what color manipulator characters looks like to do that clueless and towards other characters actually being Elizabeth, but responding to that Elizabeth so that we get a closer look at her story
Scott like to do that give clause on the Lord of other characters she might not actually be Elizabeth but responding Elizabeth is so that we got a closer look at her story m
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Group in the Blob: Wait, Mike, you're trying fire AGAIN?! That doesn't work, remember? What else you you have? Glamrock Freddy (Michael): I can store birthday cakes! Group in the Blob: *facepalms on all their faces*
At around 17:00, MatPat mentions the spirit of Elizbeth Afton and the eyes not being lit up in the animatronic. Whenever we see Vanny, her eyes are glowing red, like the animatronics in the blob. This could potentially be connected together.
Maybe the reason why vanessa is so mad at gregory and freddy is because due to his death their father went insane which kinda led to her and her family demise. That’s why maybe mangle is her childhood room because it resembles the family dynamic which led to their death?
I love how absurd the franchise lore has gotten. I thought it started with a really cool concept of haunted robots in a chuck e cheese and killers on the loose, but it feels like its completely descended into madness and it's downright hilarious how absurd it is now. I love when your "wacky theories" have substantial ground in the series and how you collect and use lore from all parts of the series, games, websites, books, and all
Only for fans over 18 years old Aishite.Tokyo/shizumi ❤🔥 mañas no se la Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy . Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım'' Erinder: ''Sezimdüü'' Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak'' Dene: ''Muzdak'' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾 Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente 💗❤️💌💘
This game would've been better as a reboot and not a direct continuation, with small ties to the past, but not too much. It's gotten out of hand and not even steel wool knows what they're supposed to do
*Usually matpat is able to get some key points, whether or not his theory is right. Matpat is impressive just with those abilities to piece stuff together.*
Mark out here with the pure Jock energy with that statement... As is Matt with the Nerd energy. (But yes, Faz-Cam OP) Honestly surprised that Matt didn't just say "Vanessa is Stage 4 Elizabeth/Charlie bot."
I really love the theorie and hard work going in there and I don't want to say anything against it... But as an artist I cant ignore the fact that Gregory's blue shirt is floated by the light of a sunset, which would automatically make it appear more purple (the rest of the image is also floated by orange/yellow/reddish light because of the sunset). But that could also be done intentionally to resemble the purple color from his father.
Yeah I genuinely believe that the Vanessa theory hold merit because with the 16th cd revealing that Vanessa's childhood trauma never actually happened to her, and that fits in perfectly with what matpat said about it somehow being Elizabeth's soul because it would make perfect since for Elizabeth to say those things. The fact that amtpat also pointed out that Ballora sings about an empty house that representing the mother who killed herself, the controlling and abusive father that just so happens to be named Bill A., representing William afton it just all seems to be falling into place.
I took that to mean that it was a fabrication by her boss, William Afton. He didn't want the therapist to actually make progress, and so he told Vanessa to fabricate this story, and the story he gave her mirrored his own. When the therapist uncovered the truth, Afton had Vanny kill her.
The faceless animatronic is the original Golden Freddy. You even used the perfect graphic earlier. One blue eye, one red eye. You posited that the crying child was originally trapped in Golden Freddy alongside the other spirit. And there's the original crew, and one of them with only one red eye. If you're right about Baby's eyes being vacant because he soul is in Vanessa.....
Just a reminder to like the video! He puts in a ton of effort for these videos! ❤
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Gregory: Eating a yellow bear ice cream
Vanessa: Eating an ice cream similar to the one baby was going to give Elizabeth
Freddy: Damn this air really hits the spot
Banana
yeah man PREMIUM AIR
@LemonalyEzira strawberry
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I genuinely don't care it the theories are right or not I just love hearing them explained. I mean you gotta remember this entire channel is called game THEORY
Same here, I really like listening to Matt talking
@Instagram User says the guy with no video uploads
The bots here are insane
Same, I disagree heavily but this is so fun to watch
Same
I really like the theory of Gregory being the crying child because it means that he overcame his fear and he’s literally best friends with what used to make him so scared. It means that Afton didn’t win, and The brothers can finally get some peace
Happiest ending ever
respect to mat who passive-aggressively countered everyone's counter opinion like a boss
Jesus Christ Loves You!!!
pretty sure he's long dead@@ethanulloa6359
William Afton is the definiton of "But wait, there's more!"
Someone: Yes! He's gone!
William: Well yes, but no.
@@Alexuniverse_ Fnaf fandom: Were you killed?
William: Sadly, yes... but I lived!!
or "This isn't even my final form"
Afton is basically Palpatine at this point
While we play a Horror franchise he's just playing a Rogue-like
Whether the theory ends up being correct or not, I think we can all thank MatPat and his team for coming up with these theories and piecing them together via videos for us!
The whole point of it is that its a theory, its not confirm definite. Its making theories with what you've got
@@thehumanpro2351 agreed!
So many bots in the replies
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Yeah. The effort with the VO, editing, scripts, enthusiasm and loads of other stuff always outweigh any complicated theories in my book! Even if i DO like this theory XD
Does the lore ever make sense? *No.*
Do I still love to listen to it? *Yes.*
Yh I like to believe the lore ended at fnaf 6 cos that would have been best
Agreed
@@6671O-i6c yeah it would of been better like that
Exactly
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I really want the end of this game and book series to just be Scott and MatPat making a final-final-final 10 hour video about the lore
Jesus Christ Loves You!!!
I agree, I'm lost
Omg yes!!!!!!! That would be amazing!!!!!!!!
you kinda predicted it they met up
@@blakeee3593 I know right? Like I never expected Mat quitting RUclips. Him hanging out with Scott.🤯
It’s almost like everyone forgets the “it’s just a theory part” love how after all these FNAF theories this is the one he gets flack for.
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just because its a theory doesn't mean its immune to criticism.
right? 😶 plus like the theory makes sense especially when he pointed out gregory could be in the charging station like the robotic animatronics...
especially because I thought it made a lot of sense
@@adamnielson42 True, but hating on Mat, and completely disregarding his points is also wrong. Regardless of wether you think he's right, the evidence is still there for something.
Mat is just giving an explanation he thinks is best with what we know, even if it doesn't completely fit. I don't even think he fully believes everything about these theories, he's just waiting for evidence to come up, and possibly find a better explanation.
Not only did he apologize, but he continued to defend that theory. This is why I love this channel
no apology needed even
Game Theory is just to smart some of us can’t even comprehend his smartness
It's funny enough he retorts to the memes at the start.
I agree with his theory
Wait if he still defended the theory than why even apologize?
I could listen to MatPat deliver crackpot theories all day. Especially about FNAF. I genuinely love this channel.
wow, these comments are....strange
@@squid_436 your telling me lol
Ikr these are weird
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I've said it before in a previous theory vid, but I'll say it again. Robot children built by regretful fathers gives me incredibly strong Astro Boy vibes, and I'm so here for it.
Omg you're right.
I never thought of that before 😅
Personally, I don't care if these theories are right or not. They're entertaining regardless.
Yes👍
Same bro
literally!!! it just makes me think like woooow.... FASCINATING!!!!!!
Agreed
Me never actually played it : 👍
Love how Matpat’s been doing fine with FNAF theories and THIS was the one that split the internet.
to be fair, it’s a pretty divisive game too. i think, next to fnaf world ofc, it’s one of their lower points and it really shows in the fandom. plus it was a pretty funny graphic
Nah, the last theory split in the internet, it got him trending on twitter
@Instagram User no❤️
As if the final 3 star ending illustration of a franschise that is heavily based on lore had the illustrators “accidentally” just put in some random ice creams with funny looking shapes lmao. It’s crazy to chalk it up to a mistake over a very intentional design decision
Sans is ness
Whether right or wrong, you gotta admit, the gregory is the crying child has a lot of evidence to back it. Tbh its a very reasonable theory
I got a question the only thing I’m confused by in the theory is bill=will how is Bill short for William if his name was like will then I would understand
@@corruptedbeastvoid Bill is a short name for William my friends full name is William G. But he goes by Bill
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@@Axonv oh
@@corruptedbeastvoid If I remember correctly, there was this huge trend of rhyming nicknames in the middle ages. So they would shorten a name William->Will and then change the first letter Will->Bill. That version just remained popular since then.
There are quite a few examples of this, such as Bob (Robert), D ick (Richard) and Peggy (Margaret).
I’ve been rewatching all his theories from beginning till now, and I don’t understand why the community hates matpats theories for crying child, it literally makes perfect sense, the community is just mad that their favorite horror game story is going in a new direction for some reason
Bro it was literally debunked
@@kizoyah9253 What was
When you realize the definition of a Theory is an educated guess, and you can't take Matpat down.
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we’ve been so desensitised to the outro that we forget ;p
I always thought Theories were hypothosis's that have undergone such rigorous test that they are nearly, if not completely, disprovable.
You will find many things we believe are facts, such as gravity and plate technoics are in fact theories. Because scientists can be very confident in their answers with well documented and supporting evidence. But unless we get God or whatever created the universe to confirm our answers, like a teacher grading a quiz, we can't say for certain. After all, much of science evolved from incorrect assumptions or that things are much more complicated than we originally thought. Like quantum mechanics.
So yeah, Matpat 100% is giving us a theory because the evidence is there, even if that theory isn't confirmed.
@@GFCOLCQuote Yeah, a theory has been and can be tested. A hypothesis is just guessing the outcome with what you know. That's why he calls the incomplete theories hypotheses.
I feel so bad for Mat. FNAF will never end for him, will it
As long as Afton comes back, Mat will always be there behind him.
I will never let you leave
Well considering this is Scotts final FNAF game we have no idea how this series is going to go continue
Mat will obtain eternal life thanks to the soulbond he has to the fnaf series
😢 sad
To be fair on Mark's part, he did later say that he was a nerd too and would've picked golf if he'd been there in real life. xD
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This whole comment thread is self promos bruh
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Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente
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Why is there so many bots in this reply thread
What were the two options again
Not disagreeing, but Gregory would look different to Freddy no matter what he is, Freddy's never had x-ray eyes before, so seeing a human skeleton in Gregory should be just as surprising to Freddy as seeing a robot skeleton
Not disagreeing, but Gregory would look different to Freddy no matter what Freddy's never had x - ray eyes before, so seeing a human skeleton 🦴 in Gregory should be just as surprising to Freddy as seeing a robot 🤖 skeleton
@@tayloranderson7547 dude what? Why add the emojis
disagreeing, but 👦 would 👀 different to 🧸 no matter what. 🐻’s never had 🩻👁️ before, so 👀ing a 🏃♂️🩻 in 🧒 should be just as 🤯 to 🐻❄️ as seeing a 🤖 🦴
@@GippyHappy ok you put more effort into it but I still don't get the point of this, was my comment really dumb or sth?
@@AC-sj5rj (no it’s probably a bot or a toddler, I just thought it was funny)
i find it astonishing that even with all the hate MatPat got for his theories, he didnt take them to heart and continued doing what he loves. Amazing work, man
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Only for fans over 18 years old Aishite.Tokyo/shizumi ❤🔥
mañas no se la
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente
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He got hate for his theories? Why?
@@SmashingSnow because of the gregory=crying child thing
Wait what hate?
It feels like this specific game finally fits the "this is purgatory" theory. The 3 kids all died and had unresolved isses that are solved in the Savior ending.
Exactly.
Maybe this is all a dream?
I like the purgatory theory but it honestly may be because I want Micheal to finally be a rest after all the stuff he went through and go through more stuff caused by his father
Regardless of whether these characters are *literally* the Afton kids, I think MatPat is 100% about it being a symbolic reunion. The crying child got bullied by animatronics, now his stand-in gets to conquer them mano-a-mano. Michael threw his life away getting justice for his siblings and other victims, and now Freddy gets to help them in michael’s death. Elizabeth never got the chance to live and become a person at all, so Vanny has to be saved from brainwashing to get a second shot at growing up.
It doesn’t all have to make sense logically, only emotionally - which it does.
Maybe that is why there is three stars only when Vanessa, Glamrock Freddy, and Gregory escape the Pizza Plex
I'm almost crying, beautiful!
Yes, this comment it's so wholesome 😭🌸
THIS right here backs matpats theory by a lot. plus, why would they put a random picture of a kid, a robot and a woman in the truest of the endings? it doesn't make sense. it's HAS to define something meaningful, maybe to wrap up the (final?) game of the franchise. It doesnt make the most sense for them to casually highlight the three main characters sitting on a hill towards the sunset, in a game where the afton kids (including MIchael) speculated to suddenly and literally go missing and unmentioned at ALL
@@AetherMinecraft225 yeah exactly!
Ah men, the symbolic ending of them reuniting together like a Family, if the theory is correct... it really ends up the circle in a fantastic way
But it isn’t the true ending. The true ending is the one with Aston below the Pizza Plex.
Whether you like the theories or not, just realize that he has put a lot of effort into this. And that he and his team are amazing and that he is still doing strong like 11 years later. Thanks MatPat for everything!
Sadly most of the HK Community doesn't realise this.
@@pokejedi5184 what's HK?
@@qwencky hollow knight
@@pokejedi5184 yea but it did have its huge plot holes which angered a lot of the fandom and a lot of them didn’t even watch the video
@@glitch9929 "and a lot of them didn't even watch the video"
As I played through the game I actively thought about how I can’t wait for your theories about it! LOVE IT
YES
Yes
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YASSSSSS!!!!
Having watched the next episode, I love how Fnaf has reached the point where ‘Hiding in an arcade cabinet that can only be reached by finding a hidden, disguised and completely optional door that will only open if you use the camera item to flash a bunch of scattered cardboard cutouts without the game giving you any reason to do so’ qualifies as ‘hiding in plain sight’
Have u seen fnaf 3
Really? I absolutely hate it. This game’s lore has become so trash now.
@@soundwavesuperior28 tbh it's entertaining for me
@@soundwavesuperior28 it's a load of garbage but is also the most entertaining thing ever- how could someone not find william afton's return in almost every game hilarious? like does he just NOT die?!
I’m your 700th liker😩
along with gregory eating the freddy ice cream and Vanessa eating the ice cream cone, Michael could be somehow be connected to the fact that all thats left of him is his head, possibly referencing back to the foxy plush missing its head and the fact that he always hid behind a foxy mask
I feel like the perfect ending to this franchise would be a movie or animated series that shows the entire timeline. And it’s in chronological order, a straightforward answer would be nice.
This is FNAF you're talking about here - straightforward answers are non existent
You'd need more than 3 movies to actually explain this franchise
When it happens the fun is over
@@Cruddy129 truueee
I highly doubt the lore would expliciletly be reveal
How is Matpat still sane after making this many FNAF theories? Matpat ever gives up! Instead of ruining my childhood since 2011, for me it’s making my childhood since 2011! Matpat is amazing!
Never ever.
nice generic comment
Ur sub comment thingy is sus
He saw how well the last video did so he made this video. FNaF is his bread and butter.
@@Walrus5 is there a problem?
Funfact: Freddy's bow tie becomes purple after getting Chica's voicebox, Roxanne's eyes make him see purple too and Montgomery's claws are also purple.
Uh I think that might be a coincidence and I really hope it is
Also doesn’t he jumpscare Gregory after getting those parts when he runs out of power? That could be something noteworthy
PURPLE GUY???
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@@RE3-Nemesis Almost *nothing* in FNAF is a coincidence.
MAN CALLED IT… AGAIN!!!!!
"Wait, they're all robots?"
"They always have been"
God this is wild and I'm here for it
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Well I suppose the initial ones couldn't have been because you would lack the souls to control the animatronics XD
@Darius Bostic bruh
@Darius Bostic why
I love the idea of gregory being the crying child "reincarnated" as an animatronic bc it works with how the FNAF series works, it may as well be canon
True but there`s always a lot of similar physical traits and names from those characters in the books but I ain`t hating MatPat for this
You guys suck he's not the crying child and he's not a robot
@@sonicboy7283 wow, real compelling argument you've got yourself there, huh?
@@sonicboy7283 you're probably gonna get hate for saying that
I hate it. We need new characters like glamrock Freddy and Gregory. Steel Wool should not be going back to old, completed characters anymore. Michael, crying child and Elizabeth should not be brought back. They had their stories. This new era of fnaf should be treated as such.
this is just 20 minutes and 43 seconds of MatPat presenting his theory in the most passive-aggressive way possible, and I love it
I liked the theory, not the second one though
@@miketrapper0464 who asked
Ikr I feel like I’m in trouble
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in after watching the movie. this aged Incredibly.
I wonder if Scott ever watches mattpats theories while eating popcorn and laughing
Scott has to get ideas of where to take the game lore from someone. Why not take them from the most popular Confirmation Biasist himself?
Hopefully he has his exotic butters to "butter his popcorn from all around the world" :)
Not anymore. Scott Cawthon got cancelled for giving money to a politician he liked, and now he's not involved in the FNAF series anymore.
Back then, yes, Scott even approves some of Mat's theories even helping him to clear out some stuffs.
@@ForeverLaxx And completely ignoring everyone else and what they think of the story
Hey, I was listening to the voices of Baby and Vanessa and realised they sounded VERY similar, looked it up and yep! They're the same voice actor. Adds even more to the evidence of them being the same character.
That could be true ... but the voice actor also voices Gregory so idk
kind of true but kellen goff voices multiple characters as well but they don’t link :
@@lactosemilkk yeah you have a point, possibly because they have a voice actor who can voice a lot of characters but I feel like baby and Vanessa sound just similar in general whereas Gregory doesn't exactly sound like them, just a child
I love Mat for doubling down. It’s not his fault the lore makes no sense. He didn’t create it, he’s just trying to put it together.
right? especially pertaining to stuff from the books. Mat: these are things that exist in the FNAF universe as a whole, so they can exist in the games, too. Internet: but I don't like the books. Me: ...so? that doesn't mean that there's no useful pieces to the puzzle in them!
@@pelahnar4 I fully agree with you
@@pelahnar4 the books and the games are different sets of canon I think. That means that the stories may be different but it's in the same world using the same rules
it sucks but yeah its really not his fault scott retired and idiots took over
@@silentoccasion4359 The books and the games are both canon to the franchise, but exist on different continuities. Think of it more like parallel dimensions so to speak. Drawing connections from one to answer a question from another; that's how lore like this works. FNAF by far isn't the first to do this, but it's the only one I've seen where the fandom is so against doing so despite it being the creator's original intention.
I swear this all just feels right everything links together.
I watched Matpat calculate the size of Luigi's man parts, the Gregory theory holds up too well to earn any kind of backlash
Honestly? That's no more than just pure dedication to his work.
Yeah that seems really correct
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@Jw wrong channel, this game theory. Gay theorist is another channel
I always saw theories as fun thought experiments based on the rules, evidence, and given lore of a media, whether loosely or to the letter. But I never saw it as something that had to absolutely had to be true. It was just something fun and goofy to argue about with friends. So I don't really understand why someone would get mad about it. It's just someone's preferred head cannon. Even if I don't agree with it, it's just fun to see something I like through someone else's eyes. Maybe that's just me.
Exactly! It is called Game *Theory* for a reason. Also, at the end MatPat always says "But that's just a theory" anyway.
You only put “Maybe that’s just me” as a way to back off a bit and seem nicer, and it works, but I think you should should get rid of it😅
Yeah i don't get why ppl are hating on Matpat for these theories, he's just goofing out and having fun
Agreed! it's not a mistake,✨ IT'S A MASTERPIECE✨
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I felt like that theory was already solid, but now it makes a lot of sense. Matpat, you're our superstar.
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@@detingzonen7048 lmaoooooo
madara??
Saaaame
I would agree with this theory, but you can debunk it with a bit of unused line. Freddy was suppose to say "I feel you are bleeding."
Maybe Vanessa, like the crying child is a robot that has Elizabeth Afton’s spirit and memories inside her.
Maybe Vanessa, life the crying child is a robot that has Elizabeth Afton's spirit and memories inside her.
@@tayloranderson7547 Are you mocking me?
@@Mini_Giant478 its a bot
I just love hearing the theories explained.
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the evidence he provided is definitely stronger than whatever counter argument one might have regarding the gregbot theory, and the bitten off ice cream cements it (or at the VERY least the parallels between greg and CC) in a nearly indisputable way. also, everybody has their own opinions theyre entitled to and the memes were funny, but can we at the very least appreciate how he managed to make a valid theory out of a /clearly/ unfinished game whose story was /clearly/ changed at the last second? cmon now
Burnt trap would have just hacked him instead of Freddy
@@hunterblackwolf8062 He will, if Gregory is connected to the system that is.
@@hunterblackwolf8062 In the books the animatronics also have problem distinguishing humans and robot-humans
@@hunterblackwolf8062 there's a lot of variables we have to consider, like greg not being in the system or old willy poo not being able to recognize him as someone already said, OR he cant for some reason we've yet to find out, or he has some ulterior motives (after all, he COULD have gone and k*lled greg even without hacking him, so the point still stands).
Gregory, do you know about the hit game, Among Us?
Honesty, I'd forgotten about the glitchiness in Gregoy's eyes being so similar to the ones of the security camera. But, that would explain why there's also an effect on the screen when our old pal MoonDrop's out and about, when you get the (in my opinion very pretty) overlay of the stars and sparkles. Not sure that'd make much sense to happen to a normal child, unless he ate some of those sleepytime candies that messed him up.
Not to start a fight or anything but I feel like it’s just a game mechanic, dawko said that and I believe that was it is. Lots of games can do that and they have no meaning other than letting you know that there danger, when the animatronics spot you it gives you a chase sound so you know that you were spotted and have to get away. It is possible that if he is a robot and Vanessa uses and sort of cloaking device so she can’t be seen then I would consider it, but I think sense she reacts differently than the others it is just there to let you know who specifically is chasing you
@@J_Playz101 that could be the case, but Scott loves doing things that have meaning though so it could be this or the theory above
Do you need to floss Gregory??? *proceeds to floss*
Lol this got me cryin hard I can’t do this XD
Matpat’s voice and story telling is so convincing I would believe that Gregory is literally sans if he told me.
In the 16th tape, the therapist actually reveals that Vanessa was lying about her parents and her parents were actually normal. She had a normal childhood. So her dad can't be William Afton. Also if Vanessa is 20 years old and this game takes place in the future, it would make the events of the original games over 40 years ago; after William had already died numerous times. How would William come back to life, have a baby as a dead dude, then die again? Vanessa is too young to be his child. UNLESS SHE'S ALSO A ROBOT..
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I honestly trust Mat here. He puts up some great evidence and while it's confusing as heck, it feels at least close to the intended plot
it's not a mistake,✨ IT'S A MASTERPIECE✨ Yeah
@@a.o.e7168 ur the mistake
@@a.o.e7168 just. Stop
@@a.o.e7168 E
@@a.o.e7168 these jelly bean comments are getting on my nerves
"An empty tomb" in Ballora's distant singing might mean that if she is possesses by Mrs. Afton, her grave would be empty, having her soul in Ballora
And at the family table in Chica's Basement, the "mom" has blue hair in a bun, supporting the theory
I love how respectfully MatPat told the hardcore theorists that they were wrong. What a decent fellow.
Respectfully
@@moose8332 Indeed
He is a chad in general
"hardcore theorists" yeah, no.
also adding to the fact that gregory can enter freddy, he can even control him. If the hatch was only made for gifts and oversized birthday cakes then thered be no control panel a human could use since there'd be no use for it. So since we control what freddy does when were inside him, Gregory would be getting into his system controlling his motor functions of walking. And since its been proved that freddy had 2 souls in him before one got freed, its most likely possible that two animatronics could function in one body
oh yeah
There is also the fact that Sun and Moon share the same body, which solidifies the idea that two souls can operate one body
He doesn't control Freddy, when you enter him your basically playing as Freddy
@@toastyghosty287
But if we're controlling Gregory possessing Freddy, then that's just Meta
@@guac_mantaters5683 but sun and moon are not implied to be possessed, Thats just their programming.
The fact that Matt saw the "ooo gator golf" vid and ALSO the Freddy memes really makes me happy. It just shows how active Mat is in the fandom and it warms my heart by the amount of effort put into these videos
u should watch his meme review for fnaf on the gtlive channel if you havent already!
@@reesienoe wait meme what?
@@RE3-Nemesis ruclips.net/video/s7nOb1KT9ak/видео.html link to the gtlive video, does this help
@@reesienoe yes
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Supporting the idea that animatronics can have human characteristics: Chica in this game has a functioning olfactory system. When you put the Monty mix in the trash compactor, she specifically says that she "smells pizza."
Waiting for Mat Pat to post Security Breach theories is like waiting for Christmas.
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so true
I have to say, “Afton Purple” is slowly becoming my new favorite shade of purple.
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admittedly, Afton purple is a very nice shade of purple
@curtando NS1 that makes no sense at all
@curtando NS1 you could of said nothing? She's likely just a normal security guard or baby. Which both make lots of sense either way.
@curtando NS1 how old are you
I’d also like to point out that Heather Masters, the VA for Baby, is also the VA for Vanessa. Some might say they are just reusing actors, but clearly the series has the budget now to get different actors if they wants to, so just another piece of evidence to support Vanessa being Elizabeth.
Underated comment
the developers didnt have the budget to get proper playtesters lmaoooooo
@@mowo_fb8119 thats more about impatent fans forcing them to launch early
@@TospikKing That’s actually more on schedule than fans wanting it out, the company in charge of Steel Wool wanted the game out by 2021.
@@TospikKing no fans is forcing them. They decided the release date themselves
No, but the family theory make sense. IN the FNaF Character encyclopedia, it's mentioned at the end of SB, Gregory, Freddy's head and Vanessa are seen sitting together eating ice-cream, "forming an odd little family unit", and that it's "a happy ending at last". Coincidence?
i got into the games and the theories when i was like 9, i’m turning 18 this year. i have literally grown up with this series and matpats theories. thanks matpat for being a huge part of my life growing up
Same omg
sameee i was in middle/elementary school when i watched my first video
@Anna Beeson July 21 is when my sister does too
oh my god
Same, but now I actually acknowledge and understand the theories better than when I was a kid. I have to admit that I just thought Mat was really just a smart person even though I only understand half of what he says.
Now that I actually can understand things better. Looking back at his theories makes me appreciate them more.
There's is one point in the series that could clean up the lore a tiny bit. The stichwrath storyline in the Fazbear Fright books says that inanimate objects can be infused with human emotions. What if that is what Springtrap is now? William Afton himself is dead, burning in hell, thanks to Cassidy, but his rage and fear of death are still infecting the suit, but without Afton actually there, the rage would no longer have a source and it would just be a matter of burning out what's left, which is why Springtrap is in that charging chamber, trying to preserve what little power they have and is using Vanny to do most of the dirty work of killing kids.
It could also explain the Blob. The souls have in fact moved on, but the embers of their suffering are tied to William's rage and insane ploys of escaping death, so they linger for as long as that does.
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That's interesting food for thought and picks up on something layed down in the books so it could be the truth
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mañas no se la
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
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That's really interesting, definetly worth looking into
That would also explain,, if gregory IS a robot of the crying child, why afton continues to kill.
Always remember, with this game series, there's no such thing as coincidence.
Or the countless Jeremys
I have the same clock that hangs on the wall in the sister location room at the beginning of this video. We've had this clock for a while now. My life might be in danger C:
COINCIDENCE I think not!
@@adamarietwisted9315 R U N.
@@justsomeguypostingmemes945 noted heh....
There's a reason why we have Funtime Freddy and Circus baby, but not Molten freddy and Scrap baby.
In Fnaf SL, all the funtimes get scooped, and we see their shells still intact in the scooping room. It wouldn't be hard to imagine that Fazbear Entertainment kept a few of the original shells, and have them for display in the display cases in rockstar row.
Another thing of importance to note I think is how glamrock freddy says "I am not me". It is such a weird phrasing that for me it felt like a parallel to golden freddy's "it's me".
I think that feel like just him saying I'm not Freddy I'm Michael.
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Maybe once they patch the game to make it actually finished theorising will be easier
Hopefully
Maybe
YES. The issues and general weirdness with this game really muddy the waters for me. Take for example, when Vanessa tells you to come to the main stage at 6 am, only for there to be nothing there. Who knows what other pieces of dialogue are meaningless or should have been cut out
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Ok I subbed
Sorry if anyone said this already but how did Chica know Gregory's name if supposedly Gregory made it up earlier that day when talking to Freddy (when he stutters)
Ah- well vennesa (Vanny) was listening to Freddie and Gregory when they were talkin through the watch.
So she installed this information in the animatronics somehow?
So ye that's why-
@@catiiyori1190 thank you for explaining, lol i watched this at 2 in the morning so im thankful i got the dots connected
It's nice to see Matt taking the backlash so well now compared to in the past. He's definitely come a long way since the "Sans is Ness" thing.
I personally don't really care whether or not the theories are "correct" or anything, I just like watching the videos.
Okay, I have to say the part about Michael talking through the Fredbear plushie's radio, is actually great. And connecting it with Glamrock Freddy as possessed by Michael, is even better. I dunno, it just works for me.
I’m positive Matpat is spot on with Michael
plus the fact that freddy’s yellowish eye color that he has for the majority of SB is an EXACT match for the psychic friend fredbear yellow
@@astronymity Oh really? Huh. That's interesting, very interesting ...
I'm usually quite open to these theories but if Roxy's eyes do show Gregory's endoskeleton wouldn't she have seen him through walls, making hiding pointless.
I liked everything but the vanny is baby theory, that one is just a stretch
Just a gentle reminder for everyone: Take these theories for what they are. Investigative speculation. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing worth being uncivil about.
More than anything, they're just for fun. Even if a theory is totally wrong, it's an interesting case of collecting scattered lore bits and going, "what if?" I enjoy that.
jus like sprungtrap
And I quote, "it's just a theory-- a game theory."
Sarcasm by the way for the puny minds
You can still disagree with theories
The fact that both Gregory and crying child had a “Golden Freddy” that was with them all throughout the game is enough to convince me that they represent each other.
I actually love it when you go back to the books it makes the whole series feel way more connected and well crafted
yep. exept with the fazgoo or all the other wierd confusing things from the books
Even though the books have no relation to the lore at all
i’m so invested into these theories, i don’t even doubt them i’m like “yeah if that’s what matpat says then seems legit. might as well be canon” 😂
RIGHT like he could convince me that the sky is raining frogs and thunder is crazy frog
That’s probably the worst mindset to have in the FNAF community. Take every theory, even MatPat’s theories, with a little bit of doubt. Wait for more evidence to come out, see what everyone else thinks, etc.
@@colapepsiman9938 worst mindset, period. There's never a situation in life where, "hey, he said it so I'll just go along" is the correct answer. The very pinnacle of naivety.
@@giin97 Agreed.
Fax
I love how Matpat seems to have this "Yeah I DID do that :]" energy when it comes to the Megalovania thing
Feels nice after years of literal jokes and low blows about it
@@Sealysleepy the watch thing doesn't come up if you're going from a link from when a video's uploaded, it has the youtu .be there instead of the full watch part.
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The thing I love about fnaf, is that Scott leaves so much stuff empty for us to make our own theories. It’s like making it our own, while it’s still his story.
Honestly, what was so outlandish about proposing that Gregory is a robot? Like he said, it’s been a thing in the books for years now. Really, of all things, _this_ was too much?
Yeah i don’t understand this one makes more sense than Vanessa being circus baby now, heck someone should mention to matpat about the blueprints in Fnaf 6 there is one that actually could help validate the theory
Twitter hivemind. They don't actually know anything, are allergic to research, and just parrot buzzwords.
That the books are dumb.
Seriously, remember when FNaF was a story about children ghosts in robots? Why couldn't it have stayed that way instead of adding robot children, Fazgoo, Lonely Freddies, and other outlandish concepts?
@@tragedyplustime8271 the whole damn series including the games is outlandish you baboon
@@tragedyplustime8271 The game wouldn't have been so intriguing if it was so simple. The whole reason the franchise is still alive and has over 9 games, and more to come, and yet still gets searched by an active audience is because of the unending mysteries and overcomplicated lore. It's quite successful, there's no denying that.
I feel bad for MatPat literally getting hate and slandered when he had pretty solid theory- and if you've been following along with all his fnaf theories, everything really does connects together along with evidences in the game itself-
@Litfa Tua 4 no
I personally slightly disagree with alot of these theories but well there're just theories some make sense to some and outlandish to other but still no hate
@@CrowIsHere Just report them and ignore it.
@@thegamingpuppet8381 It's ok to disagree and yea it's just a theory but some new fans are making such a big mess- or some who aren't and disagrees still put slander on MattPat's theory- which is wrong-
all twitter do is take singular out of context clip and cry about it
matpat, the one man that can TEAR through the fnaf community and yet still be a great theorist and family-friendly channel
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Was really hoping for some actual replies...
@@pawsteps6053 agreed, bots are the worst
"family Friendly" 🤣🤣🤣
He’s still an idiot for that hollow knight theory
That one was just stupid
At least he doesn’t think Hornet is made of void
'He's Here, He's There, He's everywhere. Who you gonna call psycic friend freadbear.' God i miss that
Hey Matthew!
The animatronic at 16:32 that you call a "random endoskeleton", it's actually Foxy! You can tell by the missing right eye and the "pointy" mouth shape!
It's just an interesting detail that I wanted to share! :D
Wow that is pretty cool
Very smart I would’ve never though of that.
This is TRUE, it's so obvious when you point it out, LOOK MATPAT
@@chrishei3111 is... is this sarcasm? I really cant tell if your being sarcastic or not.
Huh True! it's not a mistake,✨ IT'S A MASTERPIECE✨
Always remember that scott once said that if you can’t figure out the lore in one game, the answer will be in the next game.
But then thell be more lore to figure out after that lol
Or the next 3 games… maybe.
didnt scott say SB would be the last game of his?
@@alessudot technically that’s tru but he’s handing the games to steel wool studios they didn’t do bad at helping with security breach
@And-Nonymous huh
I haven't played a single game in this franchise but I really enjoy the lore via these theories --glad for all the hard work! Wish I'd started watching GT Live sooner!
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Haven't played one either your not alone
That's me tho
Play it, it’s actually fun to play one of these games, tho I recommend to be a pro with your mouse as it’s a lot of work to survive in the game
I have had a few games on mobile. I have OG FNAF, sister location, and pizza simulator (on PC). I've played simulator the most, but I can't do the next one after trash baby, even she freaks me out. I love the games through watching Markaplier, and some other youtubers. The only game I've been able to play is Security breach. I know when I'm going to get jump scared, so it helps me. I panic too quick with the sound queues in the other games xD.
Honestly I don't see why anybody needs any more evidence than the fact that both vanny and Gregory are wearing purple in the three star ending. That's like, the one thing that's been kept sacred - they're both aftons
She could be what I like to call a ,,metaphor character". We know that Scott like to do that to give cluese on the lore for other characters. She might not actually be Elizabeth, but representing Elizabeth so that we get a closer look at her story.
@E I know....But you do reliese that they will to stuff the same as Scott did and he is still (kinda) relevant? He stillis the creator after all
She could what color manipulator characters looks like to do that clueless and towards other characters actually being Elizabeth, but responding to that Elizabeth so that we get a closer look at her story
There's a new team working on the FN AF. Read tired me and his original game was reworked we said the team
Not actually be Elizabeth but representative Elizabeth so that we can get a closer look at her story.
Scott like to do that give clause on the Lord of other characters she might not actually be Elizabeth but responding Elizabeth is so that we got a closer look at her story m
I love these theories, nobody should get angry at Matpat for bringing us years worth of entertainment.
This isnt related to the comment but nice profile pic
@@zonk2955 I agree lmao
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@@zonk2955 looks like an NFT
Who does
Man, Crying Child must’ve not have activated the “can’t die” gene yet. Maybe it’s coming of age moment for the Afton men.
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mañas no se la
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
hes on creative mode
Its more of a side effect from getting remnant’d than hereditary gene though
Group in the Blob: Wait, Mike, you're trying fire AGAIN?! That doesn't work, remember? What else you you have?
Glamrock Freddy (Michael): I can store birthday cakes!
Group in the Blob: *facepalms on all their faces*
At around 17:00, MatPat mentions the spirit of Elizbeth Afton and the eyes not being lit up in the animatronic. Whenever we see Vanny, her eyes are glowing red, like the animatronics in the blob. This could potentially be connected together.
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Dawko did make a theory about that kind of
Maybe the reason why vanessa is so mad at gregory and freddy is because due to his death their father went insane which kinda led to her and her family demise. That’s why maybe mangle is her childhood room because it resembles the family dynamic which led to their death?
@@MrJohn0fficial who asked
also in a teaser Vanessa's eyes were yellow but in SB they're green
I love how absurd the franchise lore has gotten. I thought it started with a really cool concept of haunted robots in a chuck e cheese and killers on the loose, but it feels like its completely descended into madness and it's downright hilarious how absurd it is now. I love when your "wacky theories" have substantial ground in the series and how you collect and use lore from all parts of the series, games, websites, books, and all
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Only for fans over 18 years old Aishite.Tokyo/shizumi ❤🔥
mañas no se la
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
Asi con toy y sus mañas no se la lease que escriba bien mamon hay nomas pa ra reirse un rato y no estar triste y estresado.por la vida dura que se vive hoy .
Köz karaş: ''Taŋ kaldım''
Erinder: ''Sezimdüü''
Jılmayuu: ''Tattuuraak''
Dene: ''Muzdak''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu gana taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. ''Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt'' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu.#垃圾
Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente
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This game would've been better as a reboot and not a direct continuation, with small ties to the past, but not too much.
It's gotten out of hand and not even steel wool knows what they're supposed to do
Underrated comment, this series spun wildy out of control 😂
Frankly it's a fascinating train wreck to watch.
*Usually matpat is able to get some key points, whether or not his theory is right. Matpat is impressive just with those abilities to piece stuff together.*
Mark out here with the pure Jock energy with that statement... As is Matt with the Nerd energy. (But yes, Faz-Cam OP)
Honestly surprised that Matt didn't just say "Vanessa is Stage 4 Elizabeth/Charlie bot."
Matt: -literally at the end of each video- and remember!!! That’s JUST a theory! A game theory!!!
Everyone on Twitter: and I took that personally
A better one would be
Everyone on Twitter: we don’t do that here.
its ok twitter is a vile place
Everyone on Twitter: Excuse me, that's impossible.
I can’t believe Matpat has put up with all this fnaf stuff over the years. Great job dude keep it up please.
when he finishes this theories about fnaf we might just be stranded of nowhere ig
Easy views that's why he keeps doing them
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@@lmads8023 that doesnt connect to what i said-
Nearly had a heart attack when Mat said “7 years ago” when talking about FNAF 4.
I can’t be that old…
no, WE cant be that old
That’s a lie
*Existential depression intensifies*
I think Fnaf 1 is that old, not not Fnaf 4. Might be mistaken there lol
In 2024 fnaf 1 cookie clicker will be 1000 years
I really love the theorie and hard work going in there and I don't want to say anything against it... But as an artist I cant ignore the fact that Gregory's blue shirt is floated by the light of a sunset, which would automatically make it appear more purple (the rest of the image is also floated by orange/yellow/reddish light because of the sunset). But that could also be done intentionally to resemble the purple color from his father.
Yeah I genuinely believe that the Vanessa theory hold merit because with the 16th cd revealing that Vanessa's childhood trauma never actually happened to her, and that fits in perfectly with what matpat said about it somehow being Elizabeth's soul because it would make perfect since for Elizabeth to say those things. The fact that amtpat also pointed out that Ballora sings about an empty house that representing the mother who killed herself, the controlling and abusive father that just so happens to be named Bill A., representing William afton it just all seems to be falling into place.
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I took that to mean that it was a fabrication by her boss, William Afton. He didn't want the therapist to actually make progress, and so he told Vanessa to fabricate this story, and the story he gave her mirrored his own.
When the therapist uncovered the truth, Afton had Vanny kill her.
@Beast 😈 you dont even make videos but alright...
The last tape is from a therapy session with patient 46, which is not Vanessa.
The only problem I have with this theory is, how could Elizabeth become an adult?
I really appreciate Matt’s efforts to make sense of the most unsensesical FNaF game since FNaF4
@@badboys6590 why tf did you give me a PDF to Word guide, did you forget how to turn in your homework?
@@brau7152 it’s a bot
This absolutely ridiculous franchise always has something to bring me back, and more often than not, MatPat is the catalyst.
@Buscai Salvação shut up this a fnaf video not a freaking church, not all of us are religous including me
@@lyama7092 pretty sure it’s just a bot
Same
no
The faceless animatronic is the original Golden Freddy. You even used the perfect graphic earlier. One blue eye, one red eye. You posited that the crying child was originally trapped in Golden Freddy alongside the other spirit. And there's the original crew, and one of them with only one red eye. If you're right about Baby's eyes being vacant because he soul is in Vanessa.....