Please Law&Crime Network, we are requesting you do an interview with Kathy and Liggett "Kathy and Tony - Heroes" Kathy Shank, a former DPS worker who began her career in 1971 as a receptionist, has achieved something extraordinary. She claims to have found a critical tip in the Delphi case among a box of tips. Given her likely age, possibly in her 70s, her involvement is nothing short of remarkable. Together with Sheriff Tony Liggett, they brought resolution to what was once considered Indiana's largest unsolved murder case-the Delphi Murders. Yet, where are the accolades? Where are the parties in honor of these heroes? Why hasn’t the media, including outlets like Dateline, celebrated their monumental achievement? The public is asking for a statement from Sheriff Liggett and Kathy Shank, sharing their thoughts and feelings after solving a case of this magnitude. They deserve recognition for their role in changing history. Their determination and effort, amidst a case involving the FBI, CIA, ATF, ISP, and approximately 25 other state and federal agencies, are truly astounding. Despite the use of advanced systems like Orion and the involvement of unified command, it was Kathy, with her diligence, who discovered the tip-not on a computer but in a physical box. How did a 70-year-old woman accomplish what some of the most advanced investigative systems and skilled professionals couldn’t? Is Kathy Shank magic? This question isn’t meant to belittle her work but rather to highlight just how incredible her contribution is. It’s difficult to imagine the level of determination it took to sift through that box and uncover a tip that would ultimately crack the case. The public believes that Kathy Shank and Sheriff Liggett should receive the recognition-and even the reward money-they deserve. We are calling for public acknowledgment and speeches from these heroes. Kathy and Tony, even if you are humble and shy, you have changed history. You are both heroes, and we want to hear your story. Please, step forward and share how you did it. Let the world celebrate your achievement.
Watch Lawyer Lee. She goes every day and takes copious amounts of notes. For example today she took 51 pages worth. Then she does a live every night and talks about the most important parts of the trial from that day.
Watch Andrea Burkhard she does a play by play from each day she was in court. Many of us have stayed up till 3-4 in the morning listening to the 5-6 hour live stream reporting of attorneys in the court room during trial. Andrea Burkhart did the best job. I watched both Andrea and Lawyer Lee but have un-subbed Lawyer Lee since the trial because she is a fence sitter. Even with the lack of evidence. That spoke volumes for me.
@@5GreenAcres nah, it's over now. No point. My opinion isn't going to change and it's not going to change anything even if it were to change. I watched some of her stuff, and their collab streams. I watched her on some Karen Read stuff too.
They brought in the FBI and when the FBI saw how bad the investigation had been handled they were given their marching orders. I want justice for these girls and that prosecutor stopped that fro happening!
There's no way a singular man did all of that to these girls. The guy in the video does not look like RA to me. He looks like the owner of the land. I still believe there was more than one person, and they were approached by someone from the front. The fact that they aren't letting the Odin stuff in, tells me they're (the government) is hiding something, especially considering Odinism is considered an actual "religion" by the government. The sister is still so suspicious to me. There's something empty and dark in her eyes. Her story has changed multiple times. She has dupers-delight in every single video she talks about it. Her behavior has been very suspicious. From what I've seen, she wanted her sister's life. She seemed very jealous, to me. All allegedly and in my opinion only. Also, the confessions? With the conditions he is in, I'd take the confessions with a grain of salt. People will say anything, if they are in poor conditions and feeling threatened. With what he's being held for, I wouldn't be suprised if he's constantly being harassed, but then again, Odinism is big there. They already know two of his guards are Odinist. I wonder what they truly feel about RA, this case, and RA, since he's allegedly one of them. Again, all allegedly and in my opinion only.
Libby and Abby deserve justice by have those actually responsible held accountable and not by destroying someone else’s life. The criminal(s) is(are) still out there
Just like all corruption, no cameras in the courtroom with some bogus reason. "Too much public interest"...uh, yeah, that's when you should be the *most* transparent. Like Jodi Arias, Casey Anthony, Chandler Halderson, they had no problem with transparency.
@goodbher9244 Jodi deserved a sentence more akin to Casey Anthony. She was given a harsh sentence because more is expected of women, and they're punished more harshly.
@@SomeTheorist9090 Casey was acquitted, how is that punishing women harshly? Jodi premeditated murder, stole the weapon, then practically disemboweled him. She was spared the DP, so under-punished.
I've been carefully following this case since the beginning, my gut keeps telling me he is not the killer. I sure hope I'm wrong cause it would be so horrible if he is truly innocent and has been treated so badly all of this time....
I’m still not any closer to being completely convinced by the available evidence that Richard Allen did this. I hope that there is more, something that is connected with Allen.
I think we're done with the evidence from the state. I'm sure they'll play video of his "confessions" soon but today his "confessions" were read out in court. Also his video interrogations werr played today. Huge nothing Burger especially once the context is given.
I’ve been following this trial closely every day and watching nightly livestreams by someone present in the court room and I have to be honest that there is a WHOLE lot of reasonable doubt in this trial so far. The prosecutor didn’t even bring up Allen until day 5. I really need to see a whole lot more before thinking this guy is truly guilty as described by our legal system. This case is incredibly interesting with lots of twists and all I have to hope for is for these two girls to get justice. They deserve justice.
@@esk2g How closely are you following this case? Also do you think we asis the public, should always be skeptical of the justice system & the people it employs? I'm seriously just curious how someone convicts someone before said person has actually been convicted. Imo unless the crime is caught on audio/ video recording, innocence should always be presumes. One my worst fears is being tried for a crime I didn't committ and noone believing me. But that's just me.
@@HollyGW"andrea burkhart" is one that takes amazing notes daily & "hidden true crime" is another channel that is also covering the case. they're both in court daily.
An extraction mark is absolutely not a striation and the fact she is acting like its valid science is disgusting. All guns are manufactured to the same specifications and there is not much variance in extraction marks on bullets.
They lost everything interviews. All the notes all the evidence. Police lost absolutely everything. They are incompetent and have scapegoated this poor dude who did nothing wrong because they're absolutely garbage at their job period kelsey german is guilty
@esk2g the time the crime happened. Police lost everything. They lost all the evidence. All the interviews, absolutely everything. They are completely incompetent. Kelsey did it not this guy
I don’t trust Holeman! RA was arrested on zero grounds. He has been in solitary, won’t eat, has been medicated, abused and has lost his mind! All the confessions are alleged and never recorded! Big cover up going on!!!
Yes!! He was in there for more than a year! He “confessed” after 6 months of being there and the treatment he received based on guards testimony is disgusting. All while being presumed innocent. I truly believe now they broke him into a confession. The police, prosecutor and specially Judge are so blinded and I’m afraid there will never be justice for Abby and Libby and that breaks me.
I think he's guilty, but this is one part I can't understand. Why on earth would they put him by himself for so long? Dont they normally put inmates in PC (protective custody), to keep them safe from other inmates? In PC he would be segregated from most prisoners, but still have some inmates around him. I wasn't following this case from the beginning, so I dont even know where the statement came from. He was in solitary confinement for over a year? Was it the defense that said this? I sure hope it wasn't a YT or reddit comment, and people just started repeating it as fact.
if he wasnt in solitary, someone would probably kill or seriously harm him - or try to, at least. this is typical practice for high-profile cases and cases where the victims are children.
Please Law&Crime Network, we are requesting you do an interview with Kathy and Liggett "Kathy and Tony - Heroes" Kathy Shank, a former DPS worker who began her career in 1971 as a receptionist, has achieved something extraordinary. She claims to have found a critical tip in the Delphi case among a box of tips. Given her likely age, possibly in her 70s, her involvement is nothing short of remarkable. Together with Sheriff Tony Liggett, they brought resolution to what was once considered Indiana's largest unsolved murder case-the Delphi Murders. Yet, where are the accolades? Where are the parties in honor of these heroes? Why hasn’t the media, including outlets like Dateline, celebrated their monumental achievement? The public is asking for a statement from Sheriff Liggett and Kathy Shank, sharing their thoughts and feelings after solving a case of this magnitude. They deserve recognition for their role in changing history. Their determination and effort, amidst a case involving the FBI, CIA, ATF, ISP, and approximately 25 other state and federal agencies, are truly astounding. Despite the use of advanced systems like Orion and the involvement of unified command, it was Kathy, with her diligence, who discovered the tip-not on a computer but in a physical box. How did a 70-year-old woman accomplish what some of the most advanced investigative systems and skilled professionals couldn’t? Is Kathy Shank magic? This question isn’t meant to belittle her work but rather to highlight just how incredible her contribution is. It’s difficult to imagine the level of determination it took to sift through that box and uncover a tip that would ultimately crack the case. The public believes that Kathy Shank and Sheriff Liggett should receive the recognition-and even the reward money-they deserve. We are calling for public acknowledgment and speeches from these heroes. Kathy and Tony, even if you are humble and shy, you have changed history. You are both heroes, and we want to hear your story. Please, step forward and share how you did it. Let the world celebrate your achievement.
I think the restriction of coverage permitted in the court rooms recently, it to cover up the incompetence of investigation on cases. Why would they leave those branches in the woods? You know there was evidence on those thate were beneficial. Sloppy police work is allowing our communities to be unsafe.
There is too much uncertainty to convict this man. I don’t know if he did it or not but there is so much reasonable doubt. I hate that justice may not be served, I want justice for the girls, they DESERVE justice but too many mistakes were made.
@calistam1467 the sweatshirt was brand new and had never been worn, and the hairs were a clump of 72 hairs in her hands and wrapped around her fingers, some with the roots.
They have some hair with roots that they didn’t test because they only get one chance to test it.. The lab decided not to test it in the hope that with time better DNA/ testing technology will be available..
Richard Allen said he passed three girls along the way - likely the four girls that enountered him near the entrance. He may or may not have noticed the fourth. He said nothing about seeing anything other than fish from the bridge itself.
This is ridiculous, there are other criminals out there still doing bad things. Whatever happened to innocent til proven guilty, especially with no hard evidence.
@@pelleoh You do know folks that claim to have seen the man said he was a tall man???? Richard Allen is like 5'6..anf I'm sure others have been on that bridge that same day...There is no HARD evidence..
Whatever happened to taking notice of 61 confessions of murdering two young girls from the same man, to a variety of people? We should just ignore those confessions?
There is literally zero proof this man killed these girls. I cannot believe how these bafoons were able to keep this man in prison for the past two years.
@@jasonstockdale328how so? No DNA, no murder weapon and conflicting witness statements. Bail would have been justified with the pathetic case they have.
I feel this was over their head,there’s to much not making sense. Blame it on the man with mental issues,keep him in jail long enough and he might say anything. The whole thing is a mess.
After being locked in solitary confinement in a max security prison for 13 months a PRE trial detainee. He got Guantanamo Bay treatment. Confessions of a mad man and he suffered from major depression and on Prozac with two stints double heart attack patient. No way did Rick Allen do this.
I think he did it but I agree with you. I’m not beyond reasonable doubt. Delphi LEO should have brought in the FBI right away since they didn’t have the resources or experience to investigate.
“I did it. I killed Abby and Libby.” This is what members of the jury heard Richard Allen say in an audio recording of a phone call he made to his wife from prison. This was one of the 60 confessions that he gave. Before the crime occurred, there were pictures of him wearing the clothing he was wearing while committing the crime. Circumstantial evidence is evidence. He lied about being there and when he was identified as being seen on the trail, that is when his story started to change. One piece of circumstantial evidence will not be enough. But circumstantial evidence is evidence, and then you get another and another. The probability of it being him gets multiplied with EVERY piece leading back to him. It eventually adds so much weight that it cannot possibility be anyone else. Monica Wala, the prison psychologist who treated Allen at Westville Correctional Facility, testified for the prosecution that he confessed to the crimes multiple times, once in great detail. There is only one person that knew the details of this crime because luckily, they kept it under wraps. When he confessed to those details, reasonable doubt was no longer reasonable.
Yep, the totality of the circumstantial evidence is what sealed his fate. He was either the unluckiest guy ever to have all those coincidences that day, or the one who did it...
Every mistake LE made in this case, i wouldnt be surprised if hes not found guilty. All they actually have is the video, him admitting being there that day. Maybe some if the confessions i didnt hear those. The judge did a real diservice by not letting the trial be aired.
The confessions were read out today in court w/ somewhat of a context given. VERY unimpressive IMO. And that's with Gull's thumb heavy on the scale. It appears to some serious shannigans going on here. The victims & defendent & their loved ones deserve a fair trial. Not to mention for public safety. While they have been wasting time with RA the real killer(s) are roaming around.
It certainly checks with what his lawyers said to the media about “do your job.” More people should care that all trials are fair lest the wrong person be incarcerated and the right one be out in the streets wreaking havoc. At this point, the locals need to be certain that this isn’t just a witch hunt to get just anyone to pay the price for this crime.
@ Accept the fact that there is a lot to question about their methods. The fact that you choose to ignore that and you’re already calling a man that’s still making his case “guilty” makes you look just as unreasonable. This is America, sis. He is allowed the same rights you are, like it or not.
I think the way RA has been treated as someone who should be presumed innocent until proven guilty is shameful . The investigation is the problem and the way it’s been handled . There will be no justice for Abby and Libby or families . What a disgrace .
Said the same thing at the beginning when I saw the state of him looked like a different person all disheveled n shackled treated like he had already been convicted n tried by jury n like he was a danger to society or himself 😞 I hope he’s guilty just Because of how bad he’s bin treated so unfair how the justice department works even if he gets found not guilty now his life and health is ruined 😔 poor girls need proper justice not just first guy that fits looses everything 😠
Who cares what your guy tells you? Do you know they've done actual studies on this, and far more often than not, your gut is wrong. Make your decisions based on facts, logic and evidence. Your gut is a waste of time
So something interesting right there at the end. Nobody has heard his voice in the courtroom to compare it to the video. You mean to tell me even the prosecution or the defense hasn't asked him to repeat guys down the hill and put it under a voice analysis?
The only "disturbing thing" is how the judge is acting in this trial she's so biased and I hope this ends in a mistrial we need a fair trial for this and this judge isn't fair.
@LuckyWannaBe no we don't want a mistrial. We want a not guilty verdict, and the real killer(s) to be found and arrested. A mistrial keeps Richard Allen in jail until he gets a new trial.
There’s literally no reason for a mistrial!! He’s getting his fair trial. You just don’t like the fact that he’s guilty. I pray for justice for Libby and Abby
@@esk2g no, I want a fair trial and this judge is super biased first it was gonna be live streamed, now it's not, now she's not allowing the defense certain things into evidence yes he's guilty but again it'll be a lot smoother if we get what the judge promised and so far she's changed her mind on just about everything..
The fact this trial is not televised and all that information going through a broken phone of journalists and bloggers, what seems to be biased judge, a shady police investigation and a more than alarming lack of evidence against this man, this might me the most infamous trial of the year (or ever) if this man is found guilty.
4 years, 5 years locked up like a monster without any trial--- how ridiculous is this --- they have no prove and now they are in trouble....start improvising-- so are you guys...
I thought it was a video of the guy behind them and a separate sound file or not focused on the killer video (because they were trying to be inconspicuous with the phone) of him talking - and, as we heard here, them talking about a gun. There seems to be a consensus that "Guys" is called out from further away, and "down the hill" may have been said when the phone was in Libby's pocket.
A reporter who was there said he heard nothing from the girls about a gun, and polled about 15-20 other reporters who said the same thing. The audio is very poor and they don’t have headphones.
@@ahslye5645 im not talking about his testimony. i'm talking about the video libby german captured on her phone. i'll be curious to see if the jurors are given headphones in the deliberation room
Everyone reading this look closely to both of your hands. Seriously. Any hairs? Hairs just dont stay attached to your hand for long periods. For Libby's sis Kelsi hair to be in Libby's hand is HUGE! Why isn't more being said about this bombshell. Like she had to have been grabbing to get the hair transfer. That haplens by contact.
The hair was pulled from the root, meaning it was yanked, not to mention the hair should of washed away in the creek, Kelsie story have changed throughout the years, and her lie detector test was inconclusive
@@zenyahill7862 This all sounds right, but I'm telling you... I find my wife's hairs in places they shouldn't be at times it shouldn't happen. I pulled one out of my undies at work the other day.
Them keeping cameras out after the absolute shitshow they've displayed prior to trial, makes me belive they're trying to cover their tracks and doesnt want the public to form their own opinions of the evidence that they're going to use. Everything thats public now, I don't believe they have the right man. Plus Brad Holder looks more like the "Bridge Guy" and also sounds like him.
Something is so wrong with this case. I think they got the wrong guy. The police is very fishy, which makes me think that the perpetrator is maybe a police officer?
2:34 I'm curious why she's saying no one followed up. I thought the man was interviewed and cleared. Wouldn't that be considered the follow up? An article from 2022 never even mentioned Allen as a suspect. They had like 8 others named.
DNA could come from anyone at any time, alone, it’s not evidence of Allen’s innocence, proving innocence takes a lot more than some random DNA on clothing.
It's him the cops just didn't do a great job. Sorry I know his type. And the gun the chances are him being there and telling on him self thought it was smart. But people in trouble away goes back to crime seen. Or talk to the cops. To see what they know. They think it's the smartest thing but it's not.
I have always had a strong feeling he's not the freaking guy! Ever since the named him. I don't think he looks even close to the dude in the "down the hill" video. This case is just... somethins not right here
@@rachelmallery7305 if he has two hands on one girls neck what is the other girl doing ? Screaming? Kicking? Running? Unless she has a gun on her by someone else???
Neither was anybody else’s. Some of the victims clothing was tossed in the creek. DNA washes away, hello. He dragged one of the victims around, did he place her in the creek? The other victim was damp the next day when investigators found their bodies. Many criminals place their victims in water, remember Scott Peterson?
@DetroitLionsDynasty There is nothing I've heard that convinces me so far. It's a very weak case. The bullet markings couldn't be recreated from unchambering it. No Dna, No physical evidence. Extremely unreasonable judge who basically completely kneecapped his defense
@ he literally admitted he was there wearing the same clothes as bridge guy, looks like bridge guy, and the shell casing found which matches his gun. He admitted several times he killed them. You think that’s all just a big coincidence?! Yikes
@@DetroitLionsDynasty plus, a witness drove by bridge guy, after the murders, walking towards the weird location where RA parked his car. His height and stature matches the bridge guy in the video. Would love to hear his actual voice for comparison. He admits to walking by that first group of girls…and the girls only mention ever seeing one man at the trail that day. I’m not surprised his dna wasn’t found in the woods. He was layered in clothing, head to toe…and, it’s the woods.
He was there at the exact same time as the girls. The bullet . The eye witness that said she saw him all covered in mud and blood . He confessed many many times.
So some lady just happened across his file and happened to think it was weird? This kinda plays into him saying he was set up no? Am I too noided or what?
With every passing day, RA is closer to being cleared. One nothing burger after another is presented in court. I DO want justice for these girls and their families, but putting the wrong person away is not justice. And the killer is out there and will strike again. My heart breaks. 😢
@@hp2474Kelsi ‘s hair was in Abby’s hand wrapped I believe around her fingers. Kelsi was the last one to see the girls. They never checked her phone she wasn’t considered a suspect
@ That was likely on Libby’s clothing and transferred to Abby. I’m not saying RA did it. But whoever bridge guy is did do it, and Kelsi is clearly not bridge guy.
I never wanted to say it. I’m glad you did. She dropped them off, knew where they would be, her hair was in Abby’s hand and she had plenty of time to do this, clean up and go home. RA said he saw THREE GIRLS!
@@Ihrto5no. If you followed this case at all - KG originally said no to even taking them because she had plans with her bf & then work. She then came back and said she would be able to drop them off if they got a ride back. Libby’s Dad was going to pick them up.
I don’t think he’s guilty either but I don’t believe KG is either. No motive, she had/has an alibi and she was not placed at the trails outside of drop off. Abby and Libby were seen on the trail no mention of KG being with them. They also borrowed a hoodie/sweater from her. Personally, my hair finds its way to my significant others butt crack without me being there so the hair doesn’t hold much weight with me with the circumstances attached.
The fact that so many people don’t question the lack of transparency, all the shady work by this awful judge etc, tells you that common sense is not as COMMON as you might think. Someone that’s doing honest work won’t have anything to hide. In fact if they’re so sure they have the right guy, they shouldn’t be holding back on making sure everybody knows why. What a victory that would be, no? Especially knowing how many people are seeking justice for the victims and are interested in this case. Locking up another potentially innocent man will not serve anybody. They just wanna be able to close the case and call it quits - what a nightmare to think that people with such a mindset are here to decide our fate.
And that leaves the murder free to kill again. The guilty and the suspects have so much more protection throughout the US than the vitims. I prya he is not convicted UNLESS he did it. .
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Please Law&Crime Network, we are requesting you do an interview with Kathy and Liggett
"Kathy and Tony - Heroes"
Kathy Shank, a former DPS worker who began her career in 1971 as a receptionist, has achieved something extraordinary. She claims to have found a critical tip in the Delphi case among a box of tips. Given her likely age, possibly in her 70s, her involvement is nothing short of remarkable. Together with Sheriff Tony Liggett, they brought resolution to what was once considered Indiana's largest unsolved murder case-the Delphi Murders. Yet, where are the accolades? Where are the parties in honor of these heroes? Why hasn’t the media, including outlets like Dateline, celebrated their monumental achievement?
The public is asking for a statement from Sheriff Liggett and Kathy Shank, sharing their thoughts and feelings after solving a case of this magnitude. They deserve recognition for their role in changing history. Their determination and effort, amidst a case involving the FBI, CIA, ATF, ISP, and approximately 25 other state and federal agencies, are truly astounding. Despite the use of advanced systems like Orion and the involvement of unified command, it was Kathy, with her diligence, who discovered the tip-not on a computer but in a physical box.
How did a 70-year-old woman accomplish what some of the most advanced investigative systems and skilled professionals couldn’t? Is Kathy Shank magic? This question isn’t meant to belittle her work but rather to highlight just how incredible her contribution is. It’s difficult to imagine the level of determination it took to sift through that box and uncover a tip that would ultimately crack the case.
The public believes that Kathy Shank and Sheriff Liggett should receive the recognition-and even the reward money-they deserve. We are calling for public acknowledgment and speeches from these heroes. Kathy and Tony, even if you are humble and shy, you have changed history. You are both heroes, and we want to hear your story.
Please, step forward and share how you did it. Let the world celebrate your achievement.
This whole case is just really bizarre.
It’s fugaizy
@@xancypillosi9497do you know how to spell?
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Great interview. Finally great to hear from a reporter on n the courtroom reporting what happened, not wrapped up in her own feelings.
Watch Lawyer Lee. She goes every day and takes copious amounts of notes. For example today she took 51 pages worth. Then she does a live every night and talks about the most important parts of the trial from that day.
Watch Andrea Burkhard she does a play by play from each day she was in court. Many of us have stayed up till 3-4 in the morning listening to the 5-6 hour live stream reporting of attorneys in the court room during trial. Andrea Burkhart did the best job. I watched both Andrea and Lawyer Lee but have un-subbed Lawyer Lee since the trial because she is a fence sitter. Even with the lack of evidence. That spoke volumes for me.
@@calliew311 Andrea Burkhart was much more thorough.
@@5GreenAcres nah, it's over now. No point. My opinion isn't going to change and it's not going to change anything even if it were to change. I watched some of her stuff, and their collab streams. I watched her on some Karen Read stuff too.
These small town cops really decimate these murder cases. They should bring in experts right away.
They brought in the FBI and when the FBI saw how bad the investigation had been handled they were given their marching orders. I want justice for these girls and that prosecutor stopped that fro happening!
the FBI were there but they told them to leave
So suspicious. Why would they not use all resources available@@StellaKnights
There's no way a singular man did all of that to these girls. The guy in the video does not look like RA to me. He looks like the owner of the land. I still believe there was more than one person, and they were approached by someone from the front. The fact that they aren't letting the Odin stuff in, tells me they're (the government) is hiding something, especially considering Odinism is considered an actual "religion" by the government. The sister is still so suspicious to me. There's something empty and dark in her eyes. Her story has changed multiple times. She has dupers-delight in every single video she talks about it. Her behavior has been very suspicious. From what I've seen, she wanted her sister's life. She seemed very jealous, to me. All allegedly and in my opinion only. Also, the confessions? With the conditions he is in, I'd take the confessions with a grain of salt. People will say anything, if they are in poor conditions and feeling threatened. With what he's being held for, I wouldn't be suprised if he's constantly being harassed, but then again, Odinism is big there. They already know two of his guards are Odinist. I wonder what they truly feel about RA, this case, and RA, since he's allegedly one of them. Again, all allegedly and in my opinion only.
Omg, those poor girls. The tear just tore my in two
Please go back to grade 2. I think the education system has failed you.
Poor Rick Allen at this point!!!
What is truly sickening is how, when you look around, there are so many monsters among us.
Terrifying
Usually this color ◻️
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@@SlashHarkenUltraand 🟠... and 🔴
@@SlashHarkenUltra yeah ya better go polish your Diddy collection.
Lack of evidence, because of lack of experience in this small town. They were over their head. The evidence isn’t there.
true
I agree & now the evidence is exposed by a kangaroo trial -
I want justice for Abby and Libby! The prosecution's case against Richard Allen isn't adding up...😢
fishy
Something has always seemed wrong with this. Almost like the officials are covering for someone 🤔
Libby and Abby deserve justice by have those actually responsible held accountable and not by destroying someone else’s life. The criminal(s) is(are) still out there
I AGREE@@legallyredone5561
@@onesunnyday5699 baloney
Listening to her describing the crime scene photos breaks my heart we need justice for the girls
Just like all corruption, no cameras in the courtroom with some bogus reason. "Too much public interest"...uh, yeah, that's when you should be the *most* transparent. Like Jodi Arias, Casey Anthony, Chandler Halderson, they had no problem with transparency.
Free Jodi
Jodi needs to stay where she's at.
@goodbher9244 Jodi deserved a sentence more akin to Casey Anthony. She was given a harsh sentence because more is expected of women, and they're punished more harshly.
@@SomeTheorist9090 Casey was acquitted, how is that punishing women harshly? Jodi premeditated murder, stole the weapon, then practically disemboweled him. She was spared the DP, so under-punished.
@SomeTheorist9090
😂😂 🤦♂️ this must be satire
I've been carefully following this case since the beginning, my gut keeps telling me he is not the killer. I sure hope I'm wrong cause it would be so horrible if he is truly innocent and has been treated so badly all of this time....
100% agree
I bet your guts told you Casey Anthony was innocent as well...
@@TedBundysGhost Not at all, not even once, I thought she was guilty the whole time.
I disagree with you I truly believed he is the guy .
I agree. I think they got it wrong. I think they are so desperate for answers, they are blind. I hope the jury really studies all of the evidence.
I’m still not any closer to being completely convinced by the available evidence that Richard Allen did this.
I hope that there is more, something that is connected with Allen.
I think we're done with the evidence from the state. I'm sure they'll play video of his "confessions" soon but today his "confessions" were read out in court. Also his video interrogations werr played today. Huge nothing Burger especially once the context is given.
They refuse to show the whole 43 second video. Just the BG clip. Also guys and down the hill sound like two different people.
Well if this doesn't make you want to never go and offer help to a case, I'm not sure what will...
I wish they had, at the very least, live audio of this trial..
I’ve been following this trial closely every day and watching nightly livestreams by someone present in the court room and I have to be honest that there is a WHOLE lot of reasonable doubt in this trial so far. The prosecutor didn’t even bring up Allen until day 5. I really need to see a whole lot more before thinking this guy is truly guilty as described by our legal system. This case is incredibly interesting with lots of twists and all I have to hope for is for these two girls to get justice. They deserve justice.
I don’t see any room for REASONABLE doubt. I see a strange little fan club for a child killer! 🙄
@@esk2g How closely are you following this case? Also do you think we asis the public, should always be skeptical of the justice system & the people it employs? I'm seriously just curious how someone convicts someone before said person has actually been convicted. Imo unless the crime is caught on audio/ video recording, innocence should always be presumes. One my worst fears is being tried for a crime I didn't committ and noone believing me. But that's just me.
Please share the name of the live steamer. I would love to catch up on the trial
@@HollyGW"andrea burkhart" is one that takes amazing notes daily & "hidden true crime" is another channel that is also covering the case. they're both in court daily.
You cannot have followed this case in any detail, @@esk2g is part of the problem.
An extraction mark is absolutely not a striation and the fact she is acting like its valid science is disgusting. All guns are manufactured to the same specifications and there is not much variance in extraction marks on bullets.
Unreal
I don’t own a gun and even I know that’s junk science!
Law enforcement got the name wrong, the street wrong, it’s conceivable that they got the time wrong also.
They lost everything interviews. All the notes all the evidence. Police lost absolutely everything. They are incompetent and have scapegoated this poor dude who did nothing wrong because they're absolutely garbage at their job period kelsey german is guilty
What time? He put himself there!!
@esk2g the time the crime happened. Police lost everything. They lost all the evidence. All the interviews, absolutely everything. They are completely incompetent. Kelsey did it not this guy
they got the killer wrong. This man did not do this.
Lost evidence, ignored evidence... So many missteps by police.
He is being held in solitary Confinement in a PRISON....WHAT?????????????
Just like all other high profile people. He’s not isolated! He had people around him 24/7
I don’t trust Holeman! RA was arrested on zero grounds. He has been in solitary, won’t eat, has been medicated, abused and has lost his mind! All the confessions are alleged and never recorded! Big cover up going on!!!
Yes!! He was in there for more than a year! He “confessed” after 6 months of being there and the treatment he received based on guards testimony is disgusting. All while being presumed innocent. I truly believe now they broke him into a confession. The police, prosecutor and specially Judge are so blinded and I’m afraid there will never be justice for Abby and Libby and that breaks me.
I think he's guilty, but this is one part I can't understand. Why on earth would they put him by himself for so long? Dont they normally put inmates in PC (protective custody), to keep them safe from other inmates?
In PC he would be segregated from most prisoners, but still have some inmates around him. I wasn't following this case from the beginning, so I dont even know where the statement came from. He was in solitary confinement for over a year? Was it the defense that said this? I sure hope it wasn't a YT or reddit comment, and people just started repeating it as fact.
if he wasnt in solitary, someone would probably kill or seriously harm him - or try to, at least. this is typical practice for high-profile cases and cases where the victims are children.
Please Law&Crime Network, we are requesting you do an interview with Kathy and Liggett
"Kathy and Tony - Heroes"
Kathy Shank, a former DPS worker who began her career in 1971 as a receptionist, has achieved something extraordinary. She claims to have found a critical tip in the Delphi case among a box of tips. Given her likely age, possibly in her 70s, her involvement is nothing short of remarkable. Together with Sheriff Tony Liggett, they brought resolution to what was once considered Indiana's largest unsolved murder case-the Delphi Murders. Yet, where are the accolades? Where are the parties in honor of these heroes? Why hasn’t the media, including outlets like Dateline, celebrated their monumental achievement?
The public is asking for a statement from Sheriff Liggett and Kathy Shank, sharing their thoughts and feelings after solving a case of this magnitude. They deserve recognition for their role in changing history. Their determination and effort, amidst a case involving the FBI, CIA, ATF, ISP, and approximately 25 other state and federal agencies, are truly astounding. Despite the use of advanced systems like Orion and the involvement of unified command, it was Kathy, with her diligence, who discovered the tip-not on a computer but in a physical box.
How did a 70-year-old woman accomplish what some of the most advanced investigative systems and skilled professionals couldn’t? Is Kathy Shank magic? This question isn’t meant to belittle her work but rather to highlight just how incredible her contribution is. It’s difficult to imagine the level of determination it took to sift through that box and uncover a tip that would ultimately crack the case.
The public believes that Kathy Shank and Sheriff Liggett should receive the recognition-and even the reward money-they deserve. We are calling for public acknowledgment and speeches from these heroes. Kathy and Tony, even if you are humble and shy, you have changed history. You are both heroes, and we want to hear your story.
Please, step forward and share how you did it. Let the world celebrate your achievement.
I'm so sick of hearing that "Guys..down the hill: clip. I wish people would stop playing it.
I wish they'd play the full unedited clip
@@jenniegem5338the girls mention a gun?
@@jenniegem5338 Is there a transcript somewhere?
i know i got so annoyed at this video playing it over and over as if we havent ALL already heard it a million times...
I think the restriction of coverage permitted in the court rooms recently, it to cover up the incompetence of investigation on cases. Why would they leave those branches in the woods? You know there was evidence on those thate were beneficial. Sloppy police work is allowing our communities to be unsafe.
There is too much uncertainty to convict this man. I don’t know if he did it or not but there is so much reasonable doubt. I hate that justice may not be served, I want justice for the girls, they DESERVE justice but too many mistakes were made.
Something is rotten in the state of Indiana.
The man walking on the bridge is short if you look at his knee to foot length he's short not 6"
@@sarahmurphy8030
exactly. Also, his facial physique looks different.
So there is no Dna at all of anyone other than the girls?
Libby’s sisters dna was found along with unidentified male dna that did not match Allen’s
The girls sister 😮😮😮😮
@@Ihrto5 because the sisters jacket was being worn. That's why..
She doesn't have anything to do with it weirdo.
@calistam1467 the sweatshirt was brand new and had never been worn, and the hairs were a clump of 72 hairs in her hands and wrapped around her fingers, some with the roots.
They have some hair with roots that they didn’t test because they only get one chance to test it.. The lab decided not to test it in the hope that with time better DNA/ testing technology will be available..
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Those poor kids, they and their families deserve justice,
I don't think there is enough evidence to properly convict
Was the sister with them on the bridge? Why did he say he saw three girls?
She dropped them off.
Richard Allen said he passed three girls along the way - likely the four girls that enountered him near the entrance. He may or may not have noticed the fourth.
He said nothing about seeing anything other than fish from the bridge itself.
There was another woman walking the trail
This is ridiculous, there are other criminals out there still doing bad things. Whatever happened to innocent til proven guilty, especially with no hard evidence.
There's hard evidence, he's the bridge guy and the bridge guy is the one who ordered the girls down the hill.
@@pelleoh You do know folks that claim to have seen the man said he was a tall man???? Richard Allen is like 5'6..anf I'm sure others have been on that bridge that same day...There is no HARD evidence..
Whatever happened to taking notice of 61 confessions of murdering two young girls from the same man, to a variety of people?
We should just ignore those confessions?
He must have done it, if you have understanding of the timeline based on witness testimony. It had to be him and no one else.
There is literally zero proof this man killed these girls. I cannot believe how these bafoons were able to keep this man in prison for the past two years.
At a maximum security place in solitary confinement for OVER A YEAR!
Hm…I wouldn’t exactly say zero proof…but you do you.
@@susankay497 considering the circumstances it’s justified.
@@jasonstockdale328how so? No DNA, no murder weapon and conflicting witness statements. Bail would have been justified with the pathetic case they have.
@@noodles5004 go put on layers of clothes (head to toe) and roll around in the woods…the woods…and I doubt your DNA would be found.
Small town corruption thru and thru.
Oh do explain what corruption you are talking about since you are claiming wrong doing? Or just stop with the made up accusations.
@@jeanP924It is nice to see a comment from someone with common sense. Thank you!!
You are SO right, sadly.
I feel this was over their head,there’s to much not making sense. Blame it on the man with mental issues,keep him in jail long enough and he might say anything. The whole thing is a mess.
Vile people thinking life is just like their favorite scripted crime shows on tv
The reasonable doubt is strong with this case. I hope they find justice for Libby and Abby.
He said he did it in a recorded phone call.
After being locked in solitary confinement in a max security prison for 13 months a PRE trial detainee. He got Guantanamo Bay treatment. Confessions of a mad man and he suffered from major depression and on Prozac with two stints double heart attack patient. No way did Rick Allen do this.
I couldn’t convict this guy. Those little girls will never get justice.
There's not enough to be sure it's him
All his confessions are enough for me. Plus, he looks like the bridge guy to me.
I think he did it but I agree with you. I’m not beyond reasonable doubt. Delphi LEO should have brought in the FBI right away since they didn’t have the resources or experience to investigate.
You're weak clearly he already confessed
@@Anna-pz9ry It's OBVIOUS that you haven't been following the case as they did bring the FBI when it first started!
“I did it. I killed Abby and Libby.”
This is what members of the jury heard Richard Allen say in an audio recording of a phone call he made to his wife from prison.
This was one of the 60 confessions that he gave.
Before the crime occurred, there were pictures of him wearing the clothing he was wearing while committing the crime.
Circumstantial evidence is evidence.
He lied about being there and when he was identified as being seen on the trail, that is when his story started to change.
One piece of circumstantial evidence will not be enough. But circumstantial evidence is evidence, and then you get another and another. The probability of it being him gets multiplied with EVERY piece leading back to him.
It eventually adds so much weight that it cannot possibility be anyone else.
Monica Wala, the prison psychologist who treated Allen at Westville Correctional Facility, testified for the prosecution that he confessed to the crimes multiple times, once in great detail. There is only one person that knew the details of this crime because luckily, they kept it under wraps. When he confessed to those details, reasonable doubt was no longer reasonable.
Yep, the totality of the circumstantial evidence is what sealed his fate. He was either the unluckiest guy ever to have all those coincidences that day, or the one who did it...
Anything more than mistrail is injustice.
Every mistake LE made in this case, i wouldnt be surprised if hes not found guilty. All they actually have is the video, him admitting being there that day. Maybe some if the confessions i didnt hear those. The judge did a real diservice by not letting the trial be aired.
The confessions were read out today in court w/ somewhat of a context given. VERY unimpressive IMO. And that's with Gull's thumb heavy on the scale. It appears to some serious shannigans going on here. The victims & defendent & their loved ones deserve a fair trial. Not to mention for public safety. While they have been wasting time with RA the real killer(s) are roaming around.
Now I see why the judge won't allow cameras or audio. She and the prosecution thought they could get away with framing Allen for this crime.
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Oh please
It certainly checks with what his lawyers said to the media about “do your job.” More people should care that all trials are fair lest the wrong person be incarcerated and the right one be out in the streets wreaking havoc.
At this point, the locals need to be certain that this isn’t just a witch hunt to get just anyone to pay the price for this crime.
@@MummyBrownhe’s receiving a fair trial!! Accept the fact that the man is guilty.
@ Accept the fact that there is a lot to question about their methods. The fact that you choose to ignore that and you’re already calling a man that’s still making his case “guilty” makes you look just as unreasonable.
This is America, sis. He is allowed the same rights you are, like it or not.
This case is incredibly fishy. Somethings not right.
My gut tells me it was him. I believe he did this.
Thanks!
Now 6 minutes into the video with no new information
How do you write a book before trial even starts when law enforcement went to great lengths to keep all information under locks.
I think the way RA has been treated as someone who should be presumed innocent until proven guilty is shameful .
The investigation is the problem and the way it’s been handled . There will be no justice for Abby and Libby or families . What a disgrace .
Said the same thing at the beginning when I saw the state of him looked like a different person all disheveled n shackled treated like he had already been convicted n tried by jury n like he was a danger to society or himself 😞
I hope he’s guilty just Because of how bad he’s bin treated so unfair how the justice department works even if he gets found not guilty now his life and health is ruined 😔 poor girls need proper justice not just first guy that fits looses everything 😠
Justice for Libby, Abby, and Richard Allen.
Great show ladies. I haven't been following the case much. I just don't know what to believe. 👍❤️
wife knows he did it, here's proof again, she says she used the computer too to save allen because the google searches would be damning
The blonde woman describing the crime scene photos was infuriating. JUST GET TO THE POINT!
I had to pause the video. She was driving me crazy.
Yep thinking the same thing
Drove me nuts! I don't think I'll be buying her book if she's all round-about-the-houses in it.
My gut feeling tells me it’s not him
Who cares what your guy tells you? Do you know they've done actual studies on this, and far more often than not, your gut is wrong. Make your decisions based on facts, logic and evidence. Your gut is a waste of time
And now trial should be confirming that for you.
@@catfish5272 too much points to it being him, in my opinion.
I somehow feel the same, they “need” justice and I think they’ve made him convenient… what took them so long??? I’m not convinced 😢
@@CMinorOp67 to much "points to him" but nothing solid against him.
So something interesting right there at the end. Nobody has heard his voice in the courtroom to compare it to the video. You mean to tell me even the prosecution or the defense hasn't asked him to repeat guys down the hill and put it under a voice analysis?
The only "disturbing thing" is how the judge is acting in this trial she's so biased and I hope this ends in a mistrial we need a fair trial for this and this judge isn't fair.
@LuckyWannaBe no we don't want a mistrial. We want a not guilty verdict, and the real killer(s) to be found and arrested. A mistrial keeps Richard Allen in jail until he gets a new trial.
Youre not a lawyer are you? 😂
@TedBundysGhost nope, but I appreciate justice the right way and been following this trial for years.
There’s literally no reason for a mistrial!! He’s getting his fair trial. You just don’t like the fact that he’s guilty. I pray for justice for Libby and Abby
@@esk2g no, I want a fair trial and this judge is super biased first it was gonna be live streamed, now it's not, now she's not allowing the defense certain things into evidence yes he's guilty but again it'll be a lot smoother if we get what the judge promised and so far she's changed her mind on just about everything..
The fact this trial is not televised and all that information going through a broken phone of journalists and bloggers, what seems to be biased judge, a shady police investigation and a more than alarming lack of evidence against this man, this might me the most infamous trial of the year (or ever) if this man is found guilty.
Why no camera's? Something is off about this....
Because this isnt reality TV and not all murder trials are televised.
The judge is trying to control the "circus"!
4 years, 5 years locked up like a monster without any trial--- how ridiculous is this ---
they have no prove and now they are in trouble....start improvising-- so are you guys...
He has not been locked up for five years. Not even close.
lol it just happened a few months ago bozo
Well other than the blue from him on the murder scene
@@Petra-R so guilty already---
@@Petra-R there was another guy ALSO with a blue jacket
The man in the video didn’t look like he was saying it directly to the girls?
No, sounds like the person is very close to the phone.
I thought it was a video of the guy behind them and a separate sound file or not focused on the killer video (because they were trying to be inconspicuous with the phone) of him talking - and, as we heard here, them talking about a gun. There seems to be a consensus that "Guys" is called out from further away, and "down the hill" may have been said when the phone was in Libby's pocket.
A reporter who was there said he heard nothing from the girls about a gun, and polled about 15-20 other reporters who said the same thing. The audio is very poor and they don’t have headphones.
And neither will the jurors…from what I’ve heard about his testimony I don’t think they’re going to take his word for what was said on the recording
@@ahslye5645 im not talking about his testimony. i'm talking about the video libby german captured on her phone. i'll be curious to see if the jurors are given headphones in the deliberation room
Everyone reading this look closely to both of your hands. Seriously. Any hairs? Hairs just dont stay attached to your hand for long periods. For Libby's sis Kelsi hair to be in Libby's hand is HUGE! Why isn't more being said about this bombshell. Like she had to have been grabbing to get the hair transfer. That haplens by contact.
Yeah, that detail is a little weird to me. I don't have hairs on my hands all the time. Super odd.
You're just wrong on this one. I promise you.
She was wearing her sister’s sweatshirt, so the reason for her sister’s hair found in her hand.
The hair was pulled from the root, meaning it was yanked, not to mention the hair should of washed away in the creek, Kelsie story have changed throughout the years, and her lie detector test was inconclusive
@@zenyahill7862 This all sounds right, but I'm telling you... I find my wife's hairs in places they shouldn't be at times it shouldn't happen. I pulled one out of my undies at work the other day.
Them keeping cameras out after the absolute shitshow they've displayed prior to trial, makes me belive they're trying to cover their tracks and doesnt want the public to form their own opinions of the evidence that they're going to use. Everything thats public now, I don't believe they have the right man. Plus Brad Holder looks more like the "Bridge Guy" and also sounds like him.
watch Andrea Burkhart she is a Lawyer and she is there, if you want truth watch her and you will see what's going on
I agree. I don't think the police really believe he did it. I think they made an arrest to save face.
I have to agree with you…. I don’t think Allen is the “Bridge Guy” I think he’s their “Convenient Guy” 😢
@Planeiron No video or voice recordings, but you think they are letting someone in on trial that they aren't controlling? Think Mcfly think
I have been watching her, she is thorough.@@Planeiron
Something is so wrong with this case. I think they got the wrong guy. The police is very fishy, which makes me think that the perpetrator is maybe a police officer?
This is what I think. The DNA led them to someone in their department. Okay, who? Why are they brushing past that?
Same here. 👍
They are protecting the Cult
@@goose33
Cool it with the antisemitism buddy
I wouldn't put it past Delphi police to do it One police got caught paying a prostitute in a bar
2:34 I'm curious why she's saying no one followed up. I thought the man was interviewed and cleared. Wouldn't that be considered the follow up?
An article from 2022 never even mentioned Allen as a suspect. They had like 8 others named.
The most compelling evidence to me that he is not guilty is the unknown male DNA on the sweatshirt Abby was found in.
DNA could come from anyone at any time, alone, it’s not evidence of Allen’s innocence, proving innocence takes a lot more than some random DNA on clothing.
It's him the cops just didn't do a great job. Sorry I know his type. And the gun the chances are him being there and telling on him self thought it was smart. But people in trouble away goes back to crime seen. Or talk to the cops. To see what they know. They think it's the smartest thing but it's not.
I have always had a strong feeling he's not the freaking guy! Ever since the named him. I don't think he looks even close to the dude in the "down the hill" video. This case is just... somethins not right here
@@rachelmallery7305 if he has two hands on one girls neck what is the other girl doing ? Screaming? Kicking? Running? Unless she has a gun on her by someone else???
Unbelievably sloppy police work
Are there any publicly available pictures of Richard Allen at the time of the murders to compare to the video, or sketches of bridge guy?
The person had to be behind them and not in front of them that man walking didn’t even say nothing from how it look the evidence not adding up
The way they have his one hand twisted in the cuff is torture
I'm still not sure it's Richard Allen something just seems off idk what it js
yapping
I just don't understand why he'd confess 61 times and also knew what was used to kill them.
Low IQ
Yup. I agree@@Angel0fTruth
Why can’t the public see the full video now??
@@lilirishgrl probably bc there is vary little there
What about the jeans and blue jacket? Did he own those items seen being worn by the Bridge Guy?
I had the same question?
Yes, he has the same outfit. I wish someone would ask if that’s him on the bridge? I think it’s him.
Yes. He even described that he was dressed in those items the day he went to the trail. 😮
I own those and so do millions of other people.
Same. Something feels off. His dna wasn’t even found at the crime scene
Neither was anybody else’s. Some of the victims clothing was tossed in the creek. DNA washes away, hello. He dragged one of the victims around, did he place her in the creek? The other victim was damp the next day when investigators found their bodies. Many criminals place their victims in water, remember Scott Peterson?
DNA in the form of hair in Abby’s hand was found. Abby fought. But, it wasn’t tested further and never tested for female DNA. Suspicious!!!!
No dna was found!
So?
He worked at CVS. You think he didn't have gloves?
Corrupt Judge
Huh? How?
If you have to ask how, you clearly haven’t been following this case.
I really just don't think it's him
It’s him but law enforcement messed up at every turn. Pathetic
@DetroitLionsDynasty There is nothing I've heard that convinces me so far. It's a very weak case. The bullet markings couldn't be recreated from unchambering it. No Dna, No physical evidence. Extremely unreasonable judge who basically completely kneecapped his defense
@ he literally admitted he was there wearing the same clothes as bridge guy, looks like bridge guy, and the shell casing found which matches his gun. He admitted several times he killed them. You think that’s all just a big coincidence?! Yikes
@@DetroitLionsDynasty OMG! Did you hear about the details of his incarceration BEFORE TRIAL - 13 months in solitary confinement?? He went mad!!
@@DetroitLionsDynasty plus, a witness drove by bridge guy, after the murders, walking towards the weird location where RA parked his car. His height and stature matches the bridge guy in the video. Would love to hear his actual voice for comparison. He admits to walking by that first group of girls…and the girls only mention ever seeing one man at the trail that day.
I’m not surprised his dna wasn’t found in the woods. He was layered in clothing, head to toe…and, it’s the woods.
Is there any real evidence that he committed the murders?
Doesn't seem like it.
He was there at the exact same time as the girls. The bullet . The eye witness that said she saw him all covered in mud and blood . He confessed many many times.
No it's kind of insane that they're even able to have him in prison at present. Big lawsuit coming for sure.
All circumstantial
@@JessicaD.-vb9ho Yea not even any DNA of any kind
Despite my claims and my comments... whether you believe them or not... ALL there is here is reasonable doubt.
CRIME KNIGHT SENT ME 😉👍🏻
So some lady just happened across his file and happened to think it was weird? This kinda plays into him saying he was set up no? Am I too noided or what?
I completely agree. This is sketchy and why would he confess on the jail house phone knowing they were listening. I think he's being setup.
@ and the best evidence they have on him is a cycled round? Something that couldn’t been aquired at any point these last 5 years.
With every passing day, RA is closer to being cleared. One nothing burger after another is presented in court. I DO want justice for these girls and their families, but putting the wrong person away is not justice. And the killer is out there and will strike again. My heart breaks. 😢
So you must have done it since you know he's not the killer! And your heart breaks for a child murderer? VILE!
Already easily more than reasonable doubt
He didnt do it....keep searching.....or better yet arrest Kelsi
Why do you think Kelsi is involved?
@@hp2474Kelsi ‘s hair was in Abby’s hand wrapped I believe around her fingers. Kelsi was the last one to see the girls. They never checked her phone she wasn’t considered a suspect
@hp2474 well to start they found her hair entangled in Abigails hand....just about the only positively identified DNA found
@ That was likely on Libby’s clothing and transferred to Abby. I’m not saying RA did it. But whoever bridge guy is did do it, and Kelsi is clearly not bridge guy.
I never wanted to say it. I’m glad you did. She dropped them off, knew where they would be, her hair was in Abby’s hand and she had plenty of time to do this, clean up and go home. RA said he saw THREE GIRLS!
Is the google searches before or after the murders?
I do not believe he is responsible for the young ladies murders. Could the older sister have motive.
And what's worse she keeps being on news wasn't she the one who was supposed to.pick them up 😮😮😮
@@Ihrto5no. If you followed this case at all - KG originally said no to even taking them because she had plans with her bf & then work. She then came back and said she would be able to drop them off if they got a ride back. Libby’s Dad was going to pick them up.
I don’t think he’s guilty either but I don’t believe KG is either. No motive, she had/has an alibi and she was not placed at the trails outside of drop off. Abby and Libby were seen on the trail no mention of KG being with them. They also borrowed a hoodie/sweater from her. Personally, my hair finds its way to my significant others butt crack without me being there so the hair doesn’t hold much weight with me with the circumstances attached.
Yeah no doubt the sister is involved because there needs to be a big plot twist just like the movies
That is what Iam wondering?!
Free this man
Then take him to to live at your place, please, dear
@@janeair3019 why?
Then let him come and take care of your kids.
@@MichelleBailey-k5x he has no criminal record and it's obviously innocent but no one would let any random stranger to take care of their kids lol.
@@derpestarztHow is Allen "obviously" inocent?!?Change your dealer...
What about the Odenite connection ? What about the Runes written in blood ?
@@tphvictims5101 the judge won't allow them to speak about the bloody symbol or the symbols made in branches
The judge is an odenite as well.
Red herrings
The fact that so many people don’t question the lack of transparency, all the shady work by this awful judge etc, tells you that common sense is not as COMMON as you might think. Someone that’s doing honest work won’t have anything to hide. In fact if they’re so sure they have the right guy, they shouldn’t be holding back on making sure everybody knows why. What a victory that would be, no? Especially knowing how many people are seeking justice for the victims and are interested in this case. Locking up another potentially innocent man will not serve anybody. They just wanna be able to close the case and call it quits - what a nightmare to think that people with such a mindset are here to decide our fate.
What is shocking is that Richard Allen is on trial for these murders
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Had anyone searched in the area where they were found prior to them being found? I thought I’d heard that. Am I mistaken ?
RA saw 3 girls, who? Abby, Libby n Kelsi?
He did say 3
No the three girls who came forward saying they saw him.
I want it to be him because the girls and their families deserve justice, but the State has basically no evidence…
The state knows they are losing this case. Thus the new “evidence” of google searches. Oh brother.
I keep wiping their smitchy smudge off my screen. What did they put on the slides and why. Lol
I've always thought Richard Allen was not guilty
Same here.
Why is their pic on the phone super clear, but his is super blurry. Ijs
@@liveandlearn1624 because the bridge guy was really far away in the distance
The reason everybody on this reel thinks it ain't him is because they have no evidence against him
They have all the evidence needed, you're just too blind to see it
@pelleoh you shouldn't be diving into this case. It's not for your entertainment. That's your belief you're spewing, right?
@@KayXoXo4 🤡sad to see such hybristophilia..
@@KayXoXo4You beeing who to judge people like you just did it?!?!
And that leaves the murder free to kill again. The guilty and the suspects have so much more protection throughout the US than the vitims. I prya he is not convicted UNLESS he did it. .
Is anyone going to explore his confession that he molested two other kids?
Plus his sister!!
@@SparkleNeelyAllen did it?Sorry, i am from Greece and i forgot to follow this case this year.
It’s in his eyes.
That is what I thought too and said just look in his eyes.
WTHR news is doing excellent reporting on this case too 👏
They are one day late. Search for Andrea burkhart.
I don't buy the confessions. I don't think they will get a conviction, not if the jury isn't corrupted.
I don't think he did it.
If he’s found not guilty, he should and better be able to sue ! The prosecution is horrible here and as of now he’s gonna walk !
Spatter. Blood spatter.
I kept on correcting her, out loud. And then I was wondering whether she used 'splatter' or 'spatter' in her book. IDK, I'm too finicky I suppose.