I remember my mother hated Zelena and I loved her. I kept talking about her during Elsa. When Marion turned into Zelena, I turned into that DiCaprio meme pointing to the tv.
Well, no wonder Robin didn't feel the same way about Marian. Robin and Marian were fated to be together, when you think about it there could only be one explanation as to how he could no longer love her!
agenttheater5 He probably didn’t feel the same way because he fell in love with someone else, it’s not that complicated. And that’s a huge stretch that doesn’t make sense. You don’t just magically stop loving someone because someone is impersonating them. He didn’t know that.
Marian being Zelena this whole time actually makes a lot of sense if you watch 3x22 and the beginning of this season more focused!and it's not just because of her and Regina's history! in 3x22 when Emma knocked out Marian,she was on the ground like wood(literally knocked out)and in the next scene,she was like a sleeping girl and how long you think a human can stay unconscious?Marian was unconscious ever since Emma knocked her out and in the entire journey of returning to the present time while she could woke up that whole time,even during the travel through the portal but No!unless if she was faking her unconsciousness(you can wake a sleeping person but not a person who's pretending)and the way Marian freaked out when said all those awful things about Regina in 4x01,and also being under the frozen heart curse,after Snow Queen removed everything and exactly during Regina and Robin's romance,it really wasn't that much hard if you really re-watch those episodes which I mentioned!
She was pregnant and has a soft soul deeply so for him to want to hurt her would be tough.He also has respect because she is still Regina's sister so matter what
Thank you. A lot of hypocrisy from these storyline parallels. I’m not justifying Zelena, but she was never a vicious murderer and slaughtered children (besides her wanting to steal Snows child for the spell). She’s as grey of a character as Regina is - and No one ever brought up Graham again which I thought was a terrible plot hole and Emma should’ve found out/storyline wise for a conflict that Regina was the reason Graham died. That was a big deal as well which went severely overlooked - while Zelena also kills Baelfire (as Regina killed Graham). The parallels are there, but in different perspectives between Zelena to Regina’s justifications for killing people. Zelena kills strategically, Regina was a vicious and psychotic murderer. In reality - I think Cora was the worst of all the Mills.
I still think this is Zelena's most heartless moment....what had Marian ever done to her? Crush Regina if you feel you have to, but why kill someone who's never even spoken to you, let alone hurt you physically, mentally or emotionally in any way?
And don't forget Zelena made herself get pregnant with Robin just to hurt Regina, which I have to say is quite a pathetic move. She had to masquerade as her sister's soulmate's wife just to get pregnant when she didn't even deserve it.
@@Backup_Plan When Glinda gave Zelena the pendant she said "Guard it with your life, because in many ways, it now is your life." Perhaps she meant that literally? Either way, it seems like Zelena's pendant was the key to her surviving when Rumple stabbed her.
If Zelena was Marian when Ingrid cursed her, and Regina tock off her heart for avoiding her dead, she's heart was pure (without black spots) That's a BIG plot hole... although ... why she doesn't just heal herself instead of just let it freeze to die, she really trusts at Regina was gonna save Marian???
I was asking myself similarly.I rewatched the show and in the scene when Marian gets striked ( by Ingrid's magic),Zelena is physically there too so how was that possible if technically Zelena was Marian all this time?I dont think there was a particular magic to cause that
and I have movie songs for them for regina/evil queen The Swan Princess 3: Bad Days Ahead A Troll in Central Park: The Queen of mean Descendants disney - song: If Only for zelena The Return of Jafar:You're Only Second Rate
This show treated Marian like trash. This "Zelena killing Marian" scene is badly done. The writers constantly give evil people second chances, but they never give minor, innocent people any chance.
I like that zelena revealed that she was pretending 2 be marian & became pregnant with his child & Regina learned that her sister was posing as marian robin hood & regina got back together I wish zelena's daughter Robin could've had the chance to meet her father & see what he was really like
I don't know why... nothing against the people that made this show but this 'twist' didn't rsally surprise me. I mean thinking about when when Gold stabbed her I knew she wasn't actuallly dead, it was just a matter of why she would be needed to come back
Al final Marian estaba destinada a morir... F porque fue uno de los peores personajes no en términos de personalidad sino que porque como fue tratada por los guionista... primero muere ejecutada por Regina (el verdadero amor de Robin) luego le dan una nueva oportunidad cuando Emma decide salvarla que solo dura minutos porque Zelena de igual forma la desvive
Wait so wen Marian told Regina “I guess ur not a monster after all” after she saved her ,was that Zelena talking and did she mean it or was it part of her plan?
This scene is the absolute worst! There is not a single bit of foreshadowing this. When Zelena did all of this due destroy Regina's happiness why should she as Marian has ever warmed up to Regina and even supported her relationship with Robin???? And why did she have to kill Marian? The real Marian would have destroyed Robin's and Regina's relationship the same way she did! It doesn't make any sense.
While I did not expect her to be Marian, I never really believed Zelena was dead in the first place. Magic is an essential component of the soul. And that component was harnassed in another place outside of her body. So when the Portal activated, I just knew she was alive somewhere.
@@iamsofia3782Same here... I think this is a great show and all, but the way they just inconsistant they are in breaking their own rules and how I am currently in the middle of season 4 and yet they've already done this whole 'curse washing over storybrooke' like 3 times now so far if I'm not mistaken
![OUAT - 5x06 'I killed Neal. Ready to kiss and make up?' [Emma & Zelena]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rkhWN3Y8BIc/mqdefault.jpg)
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Who else had shock when seeing Zelena return in this scene?
Aaron Schuchman Me. I was a little mad because I like the "back from the dead" Marian storyline lol
Aaron Schuchman man it was fuckin rough
Not me
I remember my mother hated Zelena and I loved her. I kept talking about her during Elsa. When Marion turned into Zelena, I turned into that DiCaprio meme pointing to the tv.
Both Christie Laing and Rebecca Mader are fantastic in this episode.
Well, no wonder Robin didn't feel the same way about Marian. Robin and Marian were fated to be together, when you think about it there could only be one explanation as to how he could no longer love her!
Tinker Bell said Regina and Robin Hood were meant to be together. Marian was just his first love. But yes something was clearly off.
agenttheater5 He probably didn’t feel the same way because he fell in love with someone else, it’s not that complicated. And that’s a huge stretch that doesn’t make sense. You don’t just magically stop loving someone because someone is impersonating them. He didn’t know that.
This also explains how Marian knew that Neal lived in New York
The “oops” always gets me.
Damn you know someone is a good actor when you hate their character as if they were real
Marian being Zelena this whole time actually makes a lot of sense if you watch 3x22 and the beginning of this season more focused!and it's not just because of her and Regina's history!
in 3x22 when Emma knocked out Marian,she was on the ground like wood(literally knocked out)and in the next scene,she was like a sleeping girl and how long you think a human can stay unconscious?Marian was unconscious ever since Emma knocked her out and in the entire journey of returning to the present time while she could woke up that whole time,even during the travel through the portal but No!unless if she was faking her unconsciousness(you can wake a sleeping person but not a person who's pretending)and the way Marian freaked out when said all those awful things about Regina in 4x01,and also being under the frozen heart curse,after Snow Queen removed everything and exactly during Regina and Robin's romance,it really wasn't that much hard if you really re-watch those episodes which I mentioned!
Zelena killed Baelfire/Neal and Marion and people just forgave her. If I were Robin, I would have been way more upset. She killed his wife.
me if I had been robin, I would have put my fist in the head at zéléna
She was pregnant and has a soft soul deeply so for him to want to hurt her would be tough.He also has respect because she is still Regina's sister so matter what
Thank you. A lot of hypocrisy from these storyline parallels. I’m not justifying Zelena, but she was never a vicious murderer and slaughtered children (besides her wanting to steal Snows child for the spell). She’s as grey of a character as Regina is - and No one ever brought up Graham again which I thought was a terrible plot hole and Emma should’ve found out/storyline wise for a conflict that Regina was the reason Graham died. That was a big deal as well which went severely overlooked - while Zelena also kills Baelfire (as Regina killed Graham). The parallels are there, but in different perspectives between Zelena to Regina’s justifications for killing people. Zelena kills strategically, Regina was a vicious and psychotic murderer.
In reality - I think Cora was the worst of all the Mills.
I just watched this scene two days ago aND IM STILL SHOOK
When I saw this scene!! I was so shocked!! I absolutely HATED Zelena after this scene, til Season 5 that is 😃
me too was shocked, like that
😱 😱 😱 😱 ZELENA !!!!
I still think this is Zelena's most heartless moment....what had Marian ever done to her? Crush Regina if you feel you have to, but why kill someone who's never even spoken to you, let alone hurt you physically, mentally or emotionally in any way?
And don't forget Zelena made herself get pregnant with Robin just to hurt Regina, which I have to say is quite a pathetic move. She had to masquerade as her sister's soulmate's wife just to get pregnant when she didn't even deserve it.
Lol Regina literally killed hundreds of people who did NOTHING to her. She is much more heartless
@@lilye6824
You can always do worse, but does that make what Zelena did with Mariann wonderful?
@@AE_Sunset-Nutrix_AE yeah no.....I don't think the statement was saying about Zelena being "wonderful", rather justify the full "wickedness".
She’s wicked, dear. And wicked always wins.
if no one did i will: WHO'S BEEN MWSSING UP EVERYTHING, IT WAS ZELENA ALL ALONG, WHO'S BEEN PULLING EVERY EVIL STRING, IT WAS ZELENA ALL ALONG
Who else chooses to believe her pendant was a horcrux?
It kind of was one.
@@Backup_Plan When Glinda gave Zelena the pendant she said "Guard it with your life, because in many ways, it now is your life." Perhaps she meant that literally? Either way, it seems like Zelena's pendant was the key to her surviving when Rumple stabbed her.
@@steliosstamatialis8169yes because The pendent was okay.
If Zelena was Marian when Ingrid cursed her, and Regina tock off her heart for avoiding her dead, she's heart was pure (without black spots) That's a BIG plot hole...
although ... why she doesn't just heal herself instead of just let it freeze to die, she really trusts at Regina was gonna save Marian???
I was asking myself similarly.I rewatched the show and in the scene when Marian gets striked ( by Ingrid's magic),Zelena is physically there too so how was that possible if technically Zelena was Marian all this time?I dont think there was a particular magic to cause that
There's one more thing.
zelena cast a protection spell on her heart, so, how did Regina take her heart?
@@stevefox5731 I thought the glamour spell she casted covered her dark heart too.
Yes, it's a very big one. Plus, when Zelena sees Marian's child she should have not known his name, since She never met him.
@@stevefox5731ya got that backwards. Regina cast a protection spell on her heart hat prevented Zelena from controlling her
Actress for marian actually didnt know her character was going to be revealed to be Zelena during the first half of this season.
Rebecca Mader and Lana Parilla are drop dead gorgeous.
yeah, they have been of perfect villains
and I have movie songs for them
for regina/evil queen
The Swan Princess 3: Bad Days Ahead
A Troll in Central Park: The Queen of mean
Descendants disney - song: If Only
for zelena
The Return of Jafar:You're Only Second Rate
This show treated Marian like trash. This "Zelena killing Marian" scene is badly done. The writers constantly give evil people second chances, but they never give minor, innocent people any chance.
Very true
yeah but zelena was way more interesting than marian
Zelena was a Fan Favorite
@@trollloool1307 we didn't get to know Marian . Or we knew is that she was willing to die for Snow
Can we talk about how Zelena is the ultimate catfish?
Regina owes Emma an apology for blaming her
Probably happened offscreen.
Despite the GIANT plotholes, Zelena's awful perosnality is so fun to watch
you love zelena ?
@@soixsantes i def do
Plotholes and inconsistancies
0:33 I was like that the first time
😱 😱 😱 😱 ZELENA !!!!
MOST CHOCKING MOMENT OF ALL SERIES
true, and here is is how I was the first time than I saw this scene 0:33
😱 😱 😱 😱 ZELENA !!!!
And Rumple is having a heart attack from this.
Every time I watch this scene I always get excited for Evil Marion and then she's revealed to be Zelena.
I like that zelena revealed that she was pretending 2 be marian & became pregnant with his child & Regina learned that her sister was posing as marian robin hood & regina got back together I wish zelena's daughter Robin could've had the chance to meet her father & see what he was really like
So is that why the kiss didn’t work to save “Marian” from Ingrids curse?
yup
When i saw this i called y niece during the commercial break, screaming.
I don't know why... nothing against the people that made this show but this 'twist' didn't rsally surprise me. I mean thinking about when when Gold stabbed her I knew she wasn't actuallly dead, it was just a matter of why she would be needed to come back
IT'S 4x18
What is the name of the music playing when the flashbavks are happeninh
Sorry about the poor grammar btw. Impaitence+big fingers + small buttons = bad grammar
I can’t believe Zelena killed Marian.
just to say, here is how i was the first time when i saw this passage 0:33
😱 😱 😱 😱 ZELENA !!!!
and zelena is one of characters than i hate
@@soixsantesnot me Zelena one of my favs
Al final Marian estaba destinada a morir... F porque fue uno de los peores personajes no en términos de personalidad sino que porque como fue tratada por los guionista... primero muere ejecutada por Regina (el verdadero amor de Robin) luego le dan una nueva oportunidad cuando Emma decide salvarla que solo dura minutos porque Zelena de igual forma la desvive
Why did they forgive her? She's technically a rapist. Like her sister. Still she was s cruel and wickedly intelligent
Ehm... because Zelena saved all of their lives?!
To forgive is an act of compassion, Michael Rauch. It's not done because people deserve it. It's done because they need it.
rtozier2011 love the line from Giles but doesn’t fit here
@@michaelrauch8629 It fits everywhere
How is Regina a rapist?
Wait so wen Marian told Regina “I guess ur not a monster after all” after she saved her ,was that Zelena talking and did she mean it or was it part of her plan?
the plan of zelena is to destroy the happiness of regina
Rumple that zelena have sister name Regina
Does anyone knows the name of the soundtrack?
Got it "The most vile villain"
how did her time portal work . How in the hell . Stupid writers
It was probably residual magic or something.
This scene is the absolute worst!
There is not a single bit of foreshadowing this.
When Zelena did all of this due destroy Regina's happiness why should she as Marian has ever warmed up to Regina and even supported her relationship with Robin????
And why did she have to kill Marian? The real Marian would have destroyed Robin's and Regina's relationship the same way she did!
It doesn't make any sense.
I agree, it's bad writing and doesn't really make sense. Usually I'm impressed by surprising plottwists but not this time.
While I did not expect her to be Marian, I never really believed Zelena was dead in the first place. Magic is an essential component of the soul. And that component was harnassed in another place outside of her body. So when the Portal activated, I just knew she was alive somewhere.
@@iamsofia3782Same here... I think this is a great show and all, but the way they just inconsistant they are in breaking their own rules and how I am currently in the middle of season 4 and yet they've already done this whole 'curse washing over storybrooke' like 3 times now so far if I'm not mistaken