Vintage Technics Turntables: What to Look For!
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- Опубликовано: 22 июн 2024
- This week, Kevin is talking vintage Technics turntable bargains! Whether this is your first vintage turntable or you are looking to add to your collection, Kevin goes over what to look for so you don't end up making a bad purchase. If you follow these tips, you should be able to find yourself a really good deal on a reputable turntable that will give you years of enjoyment.
When dealing with over 100 vintage turntables a year, Kevin knows what to look for and is pretty confident when he says "Technics is the best brand in vintage turntables... ever."
See how to quickly check the motor, look for any seized buttons or levers, how to handle a broken dust cover hinge, and lots more.
Let us know in the comments if you've found a vintage Technics bargain!
Some of the models in this video:
Technics SL-Q300
Technics SL-220
Technics SL-D2
Technics SL-235
Technics SL-Q1950
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I kept my SL D2 from 1980. That table with a Shure V-15 type 4 was an absolute sonic bang for buck combo.
I have my dad’s Technics sl-5300 from 1979, the year I was born, and it runs perfect!
$15.00 pandemic era Technics SL-1500 yard sale pick up here. I had it serviced and replaced the RCA cables and ground wire with new because the originals were damaged in a fire, some caps were also replaced. It works 100% today.
So, I found a SL-230 at a garage sale last year for basically free, took it home and thus began my journey into vintage audio. I went ahead and disassembled the deck and got all of the automatic functions working, including the repeat function. Based on this success, I felt emboldened to start looking at vintage receivers. Since then, it has become an obsession and I've refurbished a few other turntables as well as a number of receivers. I am now in the process of building out a home hi-fi listening room for some of my favorite pieces.
This journey led to me finding Skylabs Audio. Kevin, you do a great job on these videos and I really appreciate your commitment. To everyone, get out and support Skylabs Audio. I've personally purchased a number of t-shirts, not that I needed any more, but just to show my support to Kevin and the entire team! Keep up the good work!
I still have my SL-1800. Love it. Direct Drive, fully manual Turn Table...
First good turntable I had was a Marantz, it had the issue with the up and down buttons. Replaced with a Technics SL-D5, solid linear turntable. I now have a Technics SL-Q1, linear turntable. I had to replace the tonearm drive belt, works great! Also own a Pioneer PL-518 and a Sansui SR-232. They have all had to have some maintenance when I bought them, but all working and sounding great now! If I knew how to work on turntables when I was younger I’d have kept the Marantz, it was a nice turntable too. I regret selling it for $5. in a garage sale. But back then, I was believing the CD hype that records were dead. I love my CD’s too, but I have always loved vinyl!
What about the MCS “technics” turntables
I’ve had a few 1980s Technics, regretted selling them. I now own 2 Technics 1200s MK2 purchased brand new in 1999 & they are like brand new today, still have the original boxes with the manuals still in the envelopes, the rubber platter mats are still in the paper unused, complete with the extra weights for the back of the tonearm & the stylus hangover tools. Bulletproof turntables.
For those of you possibly looking at a new Technics, I bought an SL-1210 GR for about $450 off due to the GR2 coming out! If you see one in stock at a reputable online dealer, it doesn’t hurt to ask. I bought the second to last one at Sweetwater.
I had a record changer back in the early 70's. It was a cheapo "Electrophonic" but it had a hook shaped arm that sat on top of the record stack that kept the records from wobbling around while they hovered above the platter. I think all of the changers had that feature and, unlike the rest of the unit, it always functioned perfectly due to its simplicity.
Picked up a SL-1600 for $50 at an estate sale last year primarily because it had a grado f3 cart, I was going to put it on my sl-1200 but I plugged it in and hooked it up to my marantz 2275 and it’s been there ever since the automatic start and stop still works flawlessly
This was hysterical fun and learned 4 tips to be cognizant of. Thanks Kevin and join the Discord!!!!!
I own a few Technics tables
The SL-2000, SL-Q3 & the SL-1200 mkII. The automatic start for 7” records tends to act up when startup occurs.
Other than that they all work well.
I recently grabbed my SL1950 from my parents house. I bought it brand new back in '78, and has not been used since the early 80's when I upgraded to a linn lp12. The cue lever was locked tight, the hinges busted, and the cartridge smashed. I removed the tone arm and cleaned the cue and applied the proper silicone grease. Recapped the control board with a kit from ebay. Lubed the main bearing with special oil. Replaced the cartridge and set it up using a printed chart off the net. Replaced the hinges, and polished the dust cover. It works just like new! Thing is, it's a real pain to play records compared to streaming. I have played maybe 15 records out of my collection of 300. Now it's sits here collecting dust. oh well
I have a Technics SL-210 which is the manual version of the SL-220 that someone gave me for free years ago because the motor didn’t work. I kept it in my attic and used the headshell for another turntable. A couple years ago I decided to see what it would take to get it running again. Turns out all it needed was a bit of oil in the capstan. Once I did that it ran with a rock-solid speed. I’d try that to see if it fixes the motor on that SL-220. Just drop some oil down the capstan shaft (no need to disassemble anything) and turn it manually to work it down into the motor. Do that until it finally runs on its own. The oil I used is Super Lube 51010.
I have several vintage techniques turntables. The only one that doesn't have broken dust cover tabs is the one that I bought brand new in the 90s.
However, I have some that still have nubbins of tabs left in them. Just enough so they would sort of stay in if you didn't move it. I was able to drill tiny holes through the clip into the cover and hold the cover in place with a tiny screw.
That method has worked great and I plan to fix several others that way.
You just have to make sure to remove the screws before trying to rip off the desk cover.
I still have my SL-1210 MK2 with the dust cover and everything, the box and manual. It works like new. I have an automatic SL-D2 for my room so I can fall asleep on my favourite record.
You remember at the beginning you said it going to be fun? Well, you were right! For certain, I will show the operation of the changer to my granddaughter. She has never seen even a record let alone a turntable. Guess I need to get a turntable---seeing it won't compare to hearing it.
I paid $20 for a complete Technics SL-D3 at a garage sale a couple months ago - sounds great!
I own 5 vintage turntables, from Thorens to Duel. My daily player is my Technics SL -1900.
Love it!
Same here. I have 4 vintage turntables and the one I use most is my SL-1900. It was my father's table but I probably used it more than him back in the 70s and 80s. I have done normal maintenance on it and it still works perfectly.
Good choice!
I have a 1977 Technich SL-1710 as with a new elips Tonar Element/Cardrige/Needle but my daily driver is my 1974 Aristona 1312(Philips 312) with a new elips Tonar Element/Cardrige/Needle. The Technish has an after market light atached to the dust cover on the left side, probably for when the lights are down when people are in a romantic mood back in the day.
Technics has always been a great value. I started with a SL-23 back in the 70’s and the reliability got me hooked on them. I love the linear trackers. My living room set-up includes a recapped SL-10 with the original moving coil EPS-310. The linear trackers aren’t for everyone, you should be prepared to do the tech work to make them functional. Overall, I have been lucky to own both ends of the Technics line and many in between.
Couldn't agree more!
Agree. I have an SL-7, an SL-QL15 and an SL-L1. All great, though the SL-7 is my favourite. Built like a tank and I found someone in the UK who 3d prints the wedge stands for it, so it looks fantastic. They all needed work, but it was all basic mechanical and cartridge stuff. Happily the electronics have behaved themselves so far.
I have three technics changers. When playing lps , you have to be aware of the weight of the record, if it is to heavy it won’t drop it. I have a SL-d5, SL-3350 and SL-1950 ,
I have a SL-QD3 I got in the early 80’s. I need to go through it this video has inspired me. Thank you.
I'm the original owner of an SL-D202 that I bought in the mid to late 70s. Still works great, though I rarely use it. I have an in-line pre-amp so that I can feed it into my computer and "digitize" my LPs. The dust cover's hinges are fine, but, it has a crack in the middle-top; back in the early 80's, my wife had placed a vase on my stereo furniture. One time, when I had the volume cranked up high, the vibrations caused the vase to fall on it. That broke my heart, but I go over it.
I now have three early 80s Technics tables, all linear trackers. The iconic SL7, the SL- Q15 and the SL-L1. They all needed work to get fully operational but I absolutely love them. They are just so convenient and sound great. I have a Clearaudio Performance SE and a MoFi Studio deck, but increasingly find myself going to the Technics for my vinyl fix. My son has the SL-L1 in his flat and uses it all the time.
Technics is the Toyota of turntables, solid, popular and reliable.
Original owner of a SL 1100a/Shure V15 lll combo purchased in 1975 new for $350. Played extensively from date of purchase until mid 80’s when cassette/CD pushed it into the closet. Resurrected February this year as nostalgia kicked in and I rebuilt my two channel system…fired it up after close to four decades; ( after a couple of drops of long overdue oil that was stored under the platter from the factory) Runs as well and sounds as good as the day I pulled it from the box in 1975. When upgrade time comes, 1200 g for me. It’ll be worth every penny I blow on it. Technics TTs for life.
Technics cassette decks have stood the test of time too!
I have a SL-3200 I bought for 30 bucks and i cleaned it up and its almost mint and works perfect.
My SL-Q200 has be rock solid since I bought it in 1983. I even have the original Audio Technica DR400E with its cover - spot on with the dust cover hinges fortunately for me the hinge snapped, but the tabs held.
Just a note regarding the sweaty rubber mat....that sounds gross, but working for a company that manufactured vinyl outdoor decks there was a similar thing that happened when you put a rubber backed outdoor mat on the deck material. The reaction between the vinyl and rubber caused some of the plasticizer in the rubber to coat and stain the decking and left that gooey mess you described. Since decks are exposed to lots of heat and sun, that creates a nice oven under the rubber mat for the gunk to form. I never thought a turntable mat could suffer the same fate.
Plenty of old turntables that have been stored in non-cooled garages are coming out of hiding these days and have been for some time now.
I just cleaned up my SL-D30 table which I bought in 1982, very similar P mount. Exact issue with hinges. Loctite makes Cyanoacrylate Plastic Bonder and I had success fixing the hinges. 8 months so far and they have not cracked. I gave it to my 13 year old son who is getting into vinly.
Thanks for the info!
I have that exact Turnable, I bought it a few years ago at a thrift store for 30 bucks!
I’ve got a Technics SL-1360 that has been a real pain to find parts for. My technician did a good job with it but has also been unsuccessful in sourcing parts.
Been using a SL-D3 bought NOS for $100, 20 years ago. Changed the Empire 1000 cart with the usual green AT, diyed my way to clean, lube and adjust and it has been my everyday ride. More than decent sound, fun and easy to use. Best buy. My other tt is a VPI MkIV, Audioquest PT9 arm and Ortofon 2m Blue.
I know how you feel about Technics turntables, and I feel the same way about Dual. I have several vintage Duals which have never been serviced and still function beautifully! Love my CS-5000s and my Golden One. And, my CS-506 has worked perfectly since new.
My Technics SL-D303, came out of a dumpster. Works just fine.
Sometimes they just need to stretch a little bit and warm up, especially if they haven't been used for a while. Then service if/where/when necessary.
Nice job and thanks again.
Very true!
Great tips, thanks!
I have had 20 Technics tables. I agree with you about the P-mount tables, they are super reliable. I also really enjoy the MK I SL 1300-1500 series and the MK I SL 1600-1800 series. I have several MK2 of those series that are yet to be repaired. :(
I've had an SL-B5 since the eighties and apart from it being on it's third belt, second cartridge and one service, it's been flawless. It's currently my record store table. I've never owned the stacking spindle, no do I care to.
I've only owned 2 turntables in my life, both were Technics, my first was a SL 220 in 1978.. never had an issue with either of them, except for replacing the rubber belt which ages out.. I think the only issue with the stackable turntable you demonstrated was it probably wasn't used for a long time, so like lots of these Technics turntables, the best thing you can do is use them often
As always, I agree! Thanks for watching!
I have an old JVC direct drive turntable from the early 1970's that I paid $400 for brand-new. I also had a BIC which is lost in ablivion somewhere. I still have a Lafayette receiver, (LR90-90, wow what a powerhouse that was.
Great video guys!!
I worked at the Technics wholesaler in 1975. There was a SL-1100 in the box sitting on the warehouse floor getting dusty. I wanted to take it home to just you know Try it Out!
Yeah the 1100s are one of my favs for sure!
Can't go wrong with a q lock technics. Holy grail is the sp10. Dual 1219 is and always be favorite vintage table.
My favorite is the SL-Q3 I have several of them, dead reliable,, spot on accurate speed and well built.
I have a 1989 Technics 1200mkll that sat in a garage in Phoenix for 10 years, mat ok as long as I've had it. I think the mat rot is a late 70's early 80's thing. Also have a 1950 that I serviced myself. I'll trust it with 3 records but not 6. Keep that 1950, really fun.
Very informative video, your best by far.
Wow, thanks!
My daily is Technics SL-M3, love the sound
Great stuff here!! I had a SL-D2!! I wish I had never let it go!! I would be interested getting another!! I'll have to call you!!
I have no problem with Technics, just a Dual guy. Own 10 tables. The drop spindles look like the ones on my Duals.
We all have our thing! :)
Thanks for the great advice.
Thank you!
Thxs Kevin good info....
Good stuff , thank you for the summary I learned a lot
Glad to hear it!
I have Technics sl bd20 I've had it for quite a few years haven't had too many problems with it and I still enjoy it
The first audio component I bought, was a SL1600MK2. I was 14 and it was 1989. Paid 175$. Bought it out of The Oregonian classifieds. The owner came and picked me up in his El Camino to come to his house and check it out. THAT wouldn't happen these days 😅😅
Wow. Now that's a motivated seller!
I must admit to tossing my SL-D2 in the dumpster back in the late 80s. Rather than giving up on my vinyl like nearly all of my friends had, I doubled down by purchasing a Linn table. Sadly, I literally couldn’t give my Technics away (others looked at me as if I was offering them a scratched copy of Tall Cool One). I consoled myself by purchasing plenty of cheap vinyl over the next few decades.
I have an SL-Q300 that I was given new in the 80's while in high school. My first, and present, turntable. It sat in storage for about 8-10 years until last year. Still worked great other than needing a new cartridge! (and some cleaning!) both hinges are in fantastic shape. I don't plan on giving it up! The only issue I have started to have recently is that the tone arm sometimes starts a little too far in and then doesn't return automatically. I think there is an adjustment near the base of the tone arm, from what I have heard! My heart skipped when that 2nd LP looked like it was going to fall on the tone arm! LOL! Love the channel!!
Thank you!
thanks for the info now its time to go looking
That's the fun part, I think.
SL-23 is probably Technics' best belt-drive table. The D1/D2/D3 are indestructible.
Great info.. How about Technics linier tracking recommendations, and pitfalls. So cool with discman capabilities. I carefully packed to move a few+ turntables, but under thought the great conditioned cover hinges. The gamble of storing/keeping classics.
Definitely gonna be a fun one
Love the videos. Could you do one on the linear tracking tables out there. Pro and cons.
Great show !!!👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video I'm not in the stackers but when I was a kid in this mid-60s my sister's boyfriend had an admiral Council it was a tube Council stereo and the turntable when the side one ended his arm came out Half Moon shaped arm with rubber on it picked up the record and flipped it over and played the other side I've never seen another one in my life this was in 1966 it was super cool the console sounded fantastic head two monoblock two amplifiers I did research I can't find anything about such a thing but it was cool have a great day thanks
Awesome video.
Thanks!
Holy smokes !!! A mega members only video ❤❤
Sorry for the confusion. We made this one available to members an hour early ;)
Very first was an SL7 linear tracker, bought new in 1982 for $ 262.50 (still have the receipt from Wisconsin Discount Stereo). Second was a 1200 mk 2 bought from KAB Electroacoustics for $500 in 2010. Both run like a champ to this day, both still in use. Skylabs - I don't think you could make a bad video, even if you tried... 🙂
100% credit for the video.
I have and have worked on many Technics TTs and could not agree with your assessment more. An automatic Sony from the same era is so fiendishly complicated to do the same thing it’s unbelievable. Also, a speaker cable banana plug fits perfectly in the socket for a Technics with the removable ground wire-a cheap fix
Hey Kevin. Sorry about those Oilers. We need a cup north of the border REAL bad. Last one being 1993.
Still very happy with my SL-7, but recently I've purchased an Akai AP-306. Of course it's not a Technics but I think these Akai 's are quite underrated.
I have the SL 1900 which I only use semi automatic.
That SL220:
If you get it super cheap or already have one, Cleaning the pots (something you can easily do yourself) fix it. If it is a motor issue, dioxite in the motor and then a tiny bit of oil might do the trick. I have had a couple squeaky, erratic Motors that just needed a tiny bit of cleaning and lube. This is at least a decent strategy if you were at the point where you were going to not use the turntable or think of replacing the motor. At that point you can't make the motor any worse.
I love my SL-M2
You can never go wrong with most Technics SL-D's (1, 2, and 3), except for the issues you mentioned. The good with the Technics, is that there are so many available on the market. If your purchase has issues, you can use it as a parts unit for your next one or vice versa. Some good semi auto/ auto finds at a decent price for me have been Kenwood KD4100, JVC QL-A2, JVC QL-A4, Sony PS-T2, and Sony PS-T3... The Kenwood tends to have feet issues, a belt for the auto return, and some dry grease... The JVC's and Sony T2/T3, just needed dusting, cleaning, a little grease and they were good to go. Only issue with the latter brands is the dustcover replacements are not easy to find. The JVC's dustcovers look terrible with age and are hard to clean...
The JVC QL-A4 is the one I bought new, right after I got fired from Franklin Music in Atlanta -- FROM the Manager that fired me -- we were still friends... I truly do like that table.
The JVC QL-A4 is the one I bought new, right after I got fired from Franklin Music in Atlanta -- FROM the Manager that fired me -- we were still friends... I truly do like that table.
Rob is the "Tall Cool One".
Lol, yes he is!
nice video. the oil coming out of the mat and leaving a residue on the platter is likely plasticizer oil mixed with the polymers before they are molded to improve flexibility. The other one to watch out for is some of the higher end tables of the era used silicon oil in between the inner and outer surface of the mat to improve damping. If these sit for a long period, the silicon oil can run to one side giving the mat a lumpy surface. The Sony PS-X7 is one of the models that used the damping oil.
Thanks for the info!
Love the channel, wondered if you ever come across Dual turntables ?
Fun video. I still have the SL-D2 bought new in 1980 and it's still in excellent conditions, even the matt is in great shape. The only issue is one hinge of the dust cover that has weakened and that prevents it from staying open on its own. The speed is accurate and it's never been serviced. It is a great table and built to last and even the specs are great. Plenty on eBay although prices are creeping up.
Thanks for sharing!
@@skylabsaudio You're very welcome, I just wish you were closer, I live on Long Island, and I'd be paying visits quite often to your great store.
i need one of those mats with the holes in it . i havent had luck finding one
The sl-1950 is a great sounding table even if they only play one record at a time they are still worth it. I could never line up the mechanisms to have the Changer work and felt stoked that the auto return function worked. Maybe I'd have better luck now this was years ago
I bought a Technics SL-B10 a while ago from a thrift. Didn't maintain constant speed all that well, but it had style and even though it was from 1982 it had its original cables, ground connector, rubber mat & 45 adapter. SL-B as in belt drive, SL-D meaning direct drive. I have an Audio Technica now and I'm going to stick with it for a while. P-mounts shouldn't be overlooked, even Grado still makes a p-mount cart.
I am an owner of a Technics SL-D202 that I bought new back in 1982 from Pacific Stereo. How do you rate this turntable? It's in perfect condition as I have taken very good care for it over the years.
I love Technics. My primary deck is my near mint SL-1600 MK2, then I have a SL-D2 in another room. Yes, the D2 is a workhorse. I have owned that one for 34 years. I also have a SL-J3 linear tracking deck but it has a problem where it started suddenly running at like 100 rpm!. Not sure what the heck caused that. And I also have a belt drive Technics that I keep trying to sell in yard sales for super cheap, but nobody wants a belt drive deck.
A couple months ago I answered a a "neighborhood market place " ad on Facebook... for an sl B500 and 25 decent lp's for 180.00 he said it hums but the platter won't turn.... it came with all the extra spindles and changers " in the original bag sealed " and looked fresh out of the box...... one new belt later and she was good to go!!!! Only after did I find out how scarce the 45 changer was... I had only been concerned about the lp's at the time ended up with a " bonus ".... lol
Great video, I have been looking for a decent SL-D3 or D5 for a while now. Currently trying to fix my Optonica RP-5100 but cannot find a service manual or schematic - if you can help that would be fantastic.
Great Sunday watch, it really is hard to beat the older Technics. Ill always buy a cheap Technics when I have the opportunity. Lets chip in and get Eric a soldering iron jk!
Lol, agree!
Important thing about P-mounts: The screw that locks the cart into the arm MUST be present for the stylus pressure to be correct.
Your Beach Boys LP is off-balance. Tripod spindles don't deal with those too well.
A serious concern with Technics SL-1350 and SL-1360: They use a changer spindle that is UNIQUE TO THOSE TWO MODELS.
All other Technics changers use one that is easier to find.
D2 my favourite nice weight look and function even someone as inept as me can refurbish to great playing form
I've had Technics turntables in the past and I've been pleased with them. However, I'm not letting go of my Empire troubadour turntable. It has both eye and ear appeal and is built like the Rock of Gibraltar. (I might have wished that Empire's cartridges were a worthy match to their turntable, though.)
What a fun/informative installment. Several months ago I went to my rental storage unit, and was looking for something. While I was there, I also found my old JVC turntable stuck over in the corner. Years ago, DiscWasher sold a felt platter pad impregnated with graphite, which was supposed to reduce/bleed static. Could've been a marketing ploy, but I DID buy one. It came with storage sleeve, which of course I had misplaced. Anyway, my storage unit is not climate-controlled, and after about ten or so years, that platter pad, looked like a big gray Taco-Shell. Guess I will be buying a Skylabs replacement -- NOT graphite impregnated..... Rip
The Skylabs mat is way cooler anyway ;)
Thanks for sharing, Rip!
SL3200 has been trouble free since I got it in 1972. Only thing is the strobe lite went out.
I have the Kenwood KD 5066 it has been unbelievable a little finicky now and then but a great turntable
1 hell of a turntable it has a big huge brick in it lots of electronic components fixed 2 sold 1 they basically are all the same turntable that is Needle on the record it's all about the function they all do the same thing
It's Hot Out There Reminder. Your records want to stay cool too! They warp and melt!
SL 2000, fully manual, cheapest Technics DD, still working after 46 years
I have over 7000 45s and, I would love a changer like that, but, I would never stack my LPs. Cool vid, thanks
Thanks for watching!
Fun!
Great Content! Think I said before= I was patient and willing to travel a little, about 3yrs ago I found Circa 1979 Technics SL-3300 Direct Drive, Fully Automatic in box unassembled, Pristine Dust Cover, Owners Manual, Setup jig, O.E. Headshell with used elliptical cartridge For $350 and a 3 Hour Pleasant Drive in my Camaro. Got it home, Opened up and Quick Service and it's Awesome, Like Brand New Hardly Used!! I Love it and thought that it was a Good Buy!! Keep Doing U. Content is GREAT!!
Yes, but did your Camaro have a cassette deck and if so what tapes did you listen to on the way?
Thank you!
@VirtualGuth , LOL, it's a 2020 2SS Camaro, unfortunately No Tape Deck. But XM Ozzy Channel and a Great Ride!
@@TONKATOY I’m an old fart, so when I think about Camaros my mind goes straight to the 1st gen and early 2nd gen examples. Back in the 80s I owned a ‘67 convertible. Until I didn’t - it was stolen about 4 years into my ownership. Sadly it never had a tape deck.