There were rare cars in the 90's, but not many had a V12 with a 6-speed manual. This choice 850CSi is 1 of 200 ...now that's rare! Show 1441 | Airdate 06-14-1995
@Brian Lee dear Lord are the BMW's ugly these days. I saw a new seven series on my way to work today.....that thing is beyond ugly.....and it's a such a shame. I always thought that BMW designed some of the best looking cars. Their 90's line up was to die for.
And the fact that you can find one now at a decent price now, makes it even even better! Snatch them now because I’m pretty sure they will skyrocket in price soon!!
My father wanted to buy an 850, but the local dealer wouldn’t send a tech to get trained on them, so BMW wouldn’t let the dealer sell the car. I still love the look of this car today.
As someone who worked for BMW, that SGM was smart. That car is a NIGHTMARE to work on with today's tools. I cannot fathom how talented you needed to be back in the day to work on one
I had the privilege of riding in one of these before my friend sold it. V12, 6 speed, black with an aftermarket exhaust. Man that thing had an addictive rumble to it. BMW should do some retro build and put this on the to'do list.
Now the 80's and 90's was BMW at it's best! They may have lacked the horsepower of today's BMW's, but today's seem no longer exclusive or dare I say as "special '? A modern BMW out on the road no longer turns my head as it drives by! I also thought the E38 was the best looking 7 series ever!!
Back when having an "M" badge anywhere on a BMW made it special and exclusive, as opposed too today where BMW just slaps the badge on everything it can get away with...and a few things they should be ashamed of giving the honour.
I have the 850ci, bought it 10 years ago and it still gets tons of attention. I would love to buy the CSI but it was just too expensive when I was buying. Excellent car.
When BMW released the 8 series 840/850 I was amazed and said to my self ''that is a win'!!'' Recently when BMW releases a vehicle, I'm usually disheartened and murmor something like ''you ruined it, again!!''
Back... when they built them. It is crazy the resale value on these things. They go for about 100k. Apparently the engine was going to be put in an m8, but then they made the CSI instead for some reason. I thoroughly enjoy my 95 e38, the quality and craftsmanship in this vintage of BMW is unbeatable.
Excellent looking car. Definitely the best looking BMW of the era. I'm surprised they didn't/don't do pop up lights more. It's also amazing how much more powerful cars are today. It seems like a car with 800hp is not unusual at all. I also forgot about those trunk CD players. That's incredible.
It’s one of my dream cars. Iv’e owned a low mileage e32 750 that I bought from a big wig in Tiki Island. Moved up to a newer e38 shorty sporty holding strong at 187k. Newer models have almost non-existent suspension travel, tire cupping, transmission 1-2 shift problems and drivetrain vibrations.
@@stratfordbaby again. Love to comment and dont read. I never said every car. I said theyre many cars that still doesnt have that power. U should be disgusted comparing a a new maxima to a 1994 car..madness
@@ACURACALABAR11 still, this 1994 car would won in the beauty segment compare to the new maxima. New maxima looks okay but this 90s 8 series is timeless.
I remember when black 850i came to my neighborhood in 1991., that was spectacular appearance. In those years my country was attacked by war and black 850i survived 4 years of war, it was here since 1991 up to 2002. Nowadays E31 is extremly rare
That's because we've hit a natural limit. You can only apply a braking force equal to the static friction coefficient multiplied by your car's weight before you lose traction; given that deceleration is force divided by mass, this means that cars all generally have a similar "ideal" braking distance. With the advent of ABS, every car can execute an emergency stop that is close to ideal - the better the system, the closer. The big difference-makers nowadays are tires and downforce, because they act directly on that equation I referenced: downforce increases the effective weight of your car, whereas better tires (softer/stickier compound, wider contact patch to a point, etc) increase your static friction. The few cars these days that stop from 60 mph in under 100 feet are usually performance cars with huge track tires and aerodynamic downforce aids.
Eazy E! This thing was a beauty to look at. I love the pop up head lights and supercar/musclecar vibe I get from it. Big body coupe with a V12 & manual only!? Hell yeah! I’ve only seen 2 in person here in Utah. I dream of owning one….
All the 6 and 8 series designs were the best looking BMWs to me. The newest doesn't pop like all the others but it's still growing on me. I much rather how the concept looked before it was released
I'm actually kind of confused about something, this 1994 850CSi makes around 80+ Horsepower more than the 1990 850i Manual that MotorWeek tested yet is only .3 seconds quicker to 60mph. The 1990 850i went 0-60mph in 6.2 seconds according to Motorweek.
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Love how new BMW keep making these older cars more desirable because new BMW get uglier by the year
@Brian Lee dear Lord are the BMW's ugly these days. I saw a new seven series on my way to work today.....that thing is beyond ugly.....and it's a such a shame. I always thought that BMW designed some of the best looking cars. Their 90's line up was to die for.
The new 5 series is unacceptable. I hope the M5 brings it
Subaru is way worse than bmw
@@clarkbrown3248 I agree. In general I'm not a big fan of new car designs. Like I said 90's was the great era when it comes to modern day car design.
In your opinion 😊
V12, 6-speed manual and rear-wheel drive?! What an era, talk about old school cool!!
well, Aston, Martin did this as well lol surprisingly
@@JDMHaze Didn’t the Aston also have biturbo?
@@ys_a1659 i dont think they all did, the. db7 was NA I believe
@@ys_a1659 There was one car, V8 Vantage from the same era. It had twin supercharged V8, not turbos. So your guess is somewhat correct.
That's $202,135.69 in todays money.. That's a lot of bread!
A lot of money then but now you can pick them up used for cheap.
Maintaining them will bring the total back over 6 figures lol@@lordmaster5522
@@lordmaster5522 LOL no 850csi's for cheap. They still bring well above $100k. It's the 840's or regular 850's that you can get for relatively cheap.
One of the few cars that seem timeless. Will be gorgeous forever.
Amen
This car had a six speed transmission and selectable driver modes…IN 1994!? Ultimate driving machine INDEED!!!
And the fact that you can find one now at a decent price now, makes it even even better! Snatch them now because I’m pretty sure they will skyrocket in price soon!!
Styling looks very fresh today and also no one bats an eye at 4200 pounds now they really were ahead of their time
in 92 to be exact in europe.
@@anibalbabilonia1867 You won`t find a CSI at a "decent" price nowadays, normal 850/840 yes...
60mph to 0 in 99 feet is very impressive for a 4200lb car... Those 1994 brakes are way better than what most newer cars have today.
Amen
I think this generation 8-series is the best looking car BMW ever made.
Right next to the Z8, E46 CSL, E39 M5 and E30 Evo! Golden era of BMW for sure
@@Fuckstupidlibtards E39 is the ugliest 5 ever made
@@alidude_ i bet you own an F10 or w/e the 2010 ones are called
@@MT-rc3gn I don't own a car
good @@alidude_
These look so much better than any modern M car.
My father wanted to buy an 850, but the local dealer wouldn’t send a tech to get trained on them, so BMW wouldn’t let the dealer sell the car. I still love the look of this car today.
He was protecting his dealership as the 850 was painstakingly tough to maintain and work on.
I’m sure your dad did alright in spite of this
Same story with the Nissan GTR.
As someone who worked for BMW, that SGM was smart. That car is a NIGHTMARE to work on with today's tools. I cannot fathom how talented you needed to be back in the day to work on one
Truly interesting story but makes sense
I had the privilege of riding in one of these before my friend sold it. V12, 6 speed, black with an aftermarket exhaust. Man that thing had an addictive rumble to it. BMW should do some retro build and put this on the to'do list.
Now the 80's and 90's was BMW at it's best! They may have lacked the horsepower of today's BMW's, but today's seem no longer exclusive or dare I say as "special '? A modern BMW out on the road no longer turns my head as it drives by! I also thought the E38 was the best looking 7 series ever!!
modern BMW's will make you turn your head around because how ugly they are with those monstrous nostrils
I find no faults with this comment 👍🏼
Early 2k was alright.
I know a guy who owns a couple BMWs.. all mid 80s.. ‘86 3 Series (E30) is his favorite. He said those years is where BMW was at its peak
@@TheRealHungryJoe I'm still partial to the 90's BMW'S, but yes the 80's was another sweet spot!
GT with manual gearbox, what a combo! Add a V12 and perfect styling... 😍😍😍
Too bad it had the power of a turbo V6 or a V8.
850csi , finally!!!
Such a classic sporty car the V12 brought some heat!
Back when having an "M" badge anywhere on a BMW made it special and exclusive, as opposed too today where BMW just slaps the badge on everything it can get away with...and a few things they should be ashamed of giving the honour.
I have the 850ci, bought it 10 years ago and it still gets tons of attention. I would love to buy the CSI but it was just too expensive when I was buying. Excellent car.
Class and style never fade ,I'd drive this over a new one any day.
Man that’s still one beautiful looking car! Those performance numbers where impressive for them day’s!
When BMW released the 8 series 840/850 I was amazed and said to my self ''that is a win'!!''
Recently when BMW releases a vehicle, I'm usually disheartened and murmor something like ''you ruined it, again!!''
Back... when they built them. It is crazy the resale value on these things. They go for about 100k. Apparently the engine was going to be put in an m8, but then they made the CSI instead for some reason. I thoroughly enjoy my 95 e38, the quality and craftsmanship in this vintage of BMW is unbeatable.
That Beautiful V12 would be like $215,000 in today's money
12 cylinders and 3 pedals. The best possible combination of words.
Excellent looking car. Definitely the best looking BMW of the era. I'm surprised they didn't/don't do pop up lights more.
It's also amazing how much more powerful cars are today. It seems like a car with 800hp is not unusual at all.
I also forgot about those trunk CD players. That's incredible.
What a brutal GT car! Love the noises and the styling is still head-turning! Some great BMWs from this era!
Most beautiful and innovative Coupe.
4:17 John: ALTHOUGH THE REAR SEATS MAY LOOK INVITING, THEY’RE NOT ADULT-SIZED! LOL
It’s one of my dream cars. Iv’e owned a low mileage e32 750 that I bought from a big wig in Tiki Island. Moved up to a newer e38 shorty sporty holding strong at 187k. Newer models have almost non-existent suspension travel, tire cupping, transmission 1-2 shift problems and drivetrain vibrations.
My favorite BMW’s: 1973 3.0 csl, 1980’ M6, and the 850csi.
$98k in 1994, that’s $200k today ! V12 5.6l resulting in 372 hp , wow how times change .
A couple turbos on this car and it has today’s power 😊
Bro😂 they're so many cars that doesnt have this power. No need to
@@ACURACALABAR11 not a need but a want😎
@@ACURACALABAR11 Bro you can get that power in a Nissan Maxima.
@@stratfordbaby again. Love to comment and dont read. I never said every car. I said theyre many cars that still doesnt have that power. U should be disgusted comparing a a new maxima to a 1994 car..madness
@@ACURACALABAR11 still, this 1994 car would won in the beauty segment compare to the new maxima. New maxima looks okay but this 90s 8 series is timeless.
Timeless design, the perfect touring car.
One of the few timeless designs
Im straight, but I love John Davis. I could listen to him talk for hours.
I remember when black 850i came to my neighborhood in 1991., that was spectacular appearance. In those years my country was attacked by war and black 850i survived 4 years of war, it was here since 1991 up to 2002. Nowadays E31 is extremly rare
It's always funny to compare what was considered fast, or blistering, etc back in the day, vs new cars today.
Love these review clips. Here after watching the Dough review, this was shorter and somehow more informative.
It's amazing how much more powerful engines are today. Imagine a 5.7 liter V-12 getting only 379?
The numbers on this car seem perfect though, because you can actually keep it under control!!!
Such a pain in the ass car to maintain,but that V12,the manual,the looks...ah,I miss the 90's
Actualy that v12 is one of the móts reliable BMW engines of that time , way better then the v8 ones
What an amazing bmw era was...one on one hit after hit
My all time dream car (besides the M8 prototype, but good luck getting your hands on that one!)
Gorgeous design 😍
*One of the G.O.A.T models of BMW with a v12 optional!*
Total James Bond car.
I love these older BMWs. They were so small compared to modern BMWs. I just hate how some cars get bigger and bigger...
It's interesting that with all the numbers that have improved in all manufacturers, I don't think braking distance has
I agree but do remember even though the braking distances are relatively similar, weight has increased massively.
@@Jsah11 this car was over 4000 pounds dawg
@@mellon9449 true but a comparable M850i is about 4800 pounds
That's because we've hit a natural limit. You can only apply a braking force equal to the static friction coefficient multiplied by your car's weight before you lose traction; given that deceleration is force divided by mass, this means that cars all generally have a similar "ideal" braking distance. With the advent of ABS, every car can execute an emergency stop that is close to ideal - the better the system, the closer.
The big difference-makers nowadays are tires and downforce, because they act directly on that equation I referenced: downforce increases the effective weight of your car, whereas better tires (softer/stickier compound, wider contact patch to a point, etc) increase your static friction. The few cars these days that stop from 60 mph in under 100 feet are usually performance cars with huge track tires and aerodynamic downforce aids.
Pretty simple explanation: physics. We can’t achieve the impossible (without severely injuring the human occupant, at least).
Beautiful machine
During those days were hard to find specially with the manual in some states. Sweet dreams.
So much classier than today’s BMW
Eazy E! This thing was a beauty to look at. I love the pop up head lights and supercar/musclecar vibe I get from it. Big body coupe with a V12 & manual only!? Hell yeah! I’ve only seen 2 in person here in Utah. I dream of owning one….
My favorite BMW ever.
What a magnificent beast
I had a model of an 8 series as a child (in black)
The only BMW I actually like. The styling was damn sexy. Can’t say that for today’s lineup.
This is one of those cars that will forever look amazing! But wow... $98,500 back in 1994? That's what... like $200,000 in today's money. Crazy....
WOW OUTSTANDING!! REAL CRAFTSMAN SHIP
An absolutely beautiful car.
Never lost money, these are a ton still
Just a remarkable and beautiful car def
I still want one of these
What a vehicle. Just perfect. It's the front end for me
Interior is really nice
One of my dreams car…❤
I'm not a BMW fan boy, but the 8 series looks stunning still today, inside and outside
Caraca amigão esse carro é um arraso sensacional que esportivo 👏👏👏👏
Muito da hora 👍👍👍🎤🎤
This is so cool 😎
Master.
100k back in 94’ wow.
Is that the only 90's vehicle that Motorweek has tested with a braking distance of less than 100ft from 60?
Gorgeous!!!
What a beautiful car
All the 6 and 8 series designs were the best looking BMWs to me. The newest doesn't pop like all the others but it's still growing on me. I much rather how the concept looked before it was released
Carnivorous Coupe
Masterpiece
SWEET 90'S
Музыкальное оформление чем-то напоминает музыку из сериала Санта-Барбара 😊 в общем машина солидная.
It was $100k? ! Unreal.
I'm actually kind of confused about something, this 1994 850CSi makes around 80+ Horsepower more than the 1990 850i Manual that MotorWeek tested yet is only .3 seconds quicker to 60mph. The 1990 850i went 0-60mph in 6.2 seconds according to Motorweek.
the 1993 honda prelude vtec was within .5s of this in both the 1/4 mile and 0-60 run...
the M8 that never was
Too bad BMW never did build the M8. This car was the closest we ever got.
My holy grail...
cars were great back in the days when economy was booming overall in car industry !
beautyfull car
Dig the carphone in the center console. No BMW of this era is complete without one.
Fun in the sun….for a while😂😂
still my dream car , up there with 550 ferrari, but will probably just buy a new 850 instead.
Go new, and never look back! Performance there days is of the charts!
Damn... that kidney grill tiny as heck; compared to 2023
The 325i e30 or any M3 pre late 90's. but for the looks and the auto barn 850i
I must have been real lucky to see one the street if there were only 200 in NA.
Peak car. What has come since that is truly better? Certainly not anything from Bavarian Motor Works.
My 1994 Lottery Win Car. I Can Dream, Can't I? (smile)
The epitome of sport luxury reliability🤣🤣🤣
I still see these coupes from time to time. Majority in black 🖤. Still a bad beamer.
I've only seen one of these in my life in this exact color. I didn't know only 200 of them came to the U.S.
225 actually ;) But they are rare. I got one 2 years ago thankfully.
My neighbor has a grey one, they always have it parked outside
Back when you got more than a name for the money
Id take THAT over 2023 cars
Wild that a ~6 sec 0-60 time was considered extraordinary not so long ago. A freakin’ Prius Prime can do close to that today. 😮
A V-12 engine with a grill that size?
makes ya think..
When bmw built beautiful cars