I also have my dream XP PC completed. Running an I7-980X 4GHz with NH-D15 on MSI Eclipse SLi, 12Gb Corsair XMS3 2133MHz, Two Asus DCU2 GTX 570s, RM850W and 512 Crucial MX500. Man is that machine a beast. I know 12 threads and 12Gbs of ram for XP 32bit is absolutely overkill but I love X58 platform.
Before you install windows xp on the gaming computer with modern specs, you must set the windows xp iso with nlite to make the os works properly and no more blue screen while installing windows
@@RetroKomodo Well the SLi experience is a mixed bag. Some games run really well like 1.8x scaling, some nearly no scaling and some have graphic artifacts. No water textures in CoD MW and WaW, in 3DMark 03 everything has a yellow filter, FarCry weird textures flickering and so on. Its my first SLi setup and I understand why that technology had to go away. Now using a Titan X Hybrid (drivers installed thanks to your video) instead of those 570s
My Windows XP and Windows 7 dual Boot System: HP Elite 8200 CMT I5 2500 8 GB DDR3 1333 GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB 256 GB SSD for Windows XP 512 SSD for Windows 7 64b Ultimate 1 TB SATA 7.2rpm for Games. DVD RW Creative Audigy ZS Runs fine and I can play all games 1996-2016 in High-Ultra High without problems.
im impressed you managed to get 3D mark 99 to work on xp , 2000 was the earliest i could ever get working long term on my xp system , core i5 2500K with Radeon hd 7850
I can't remember where I got it, but I hunted around and found a 'fixed XP version' and a patch to use if you get an error. Interestingly, 2000 is the one I can't get working now!
basically i just put 3dmark 2000 in 98/me compat mode on xp and it fires right up , i will say from experience in trying nvidia and amd cards in xp systems , i tend to get more older games running on the amd cards but the last emulation options and special ones like the pcsx2 1.6 version that was modified for xp will only work on nvidia cards
My XP PC is multi-purpose so it doesn't end up gathering dust in a cupboard. Its an ITX system based on the Asus P8x77i-Deluxe, i7 3770K@4.9GHZ, Corsair H80i, The same MSI 980ti, 16GB Kingston HyperX Beast 2400, 512GB Samsung 850 Pro SSD and 500GB Seagate SSHD, 24x DVD writer and USB Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro (v1 as that's the only one with XP drivers, the others work but no official drivers for EAXHD as I found with the v3 I originally bought for it), all in a coolermaster Elite 130. I Triple boot XP and XP64 along with Windows 11 and its smaller size and windows 11 means it doubles as a HTPC as well. I did originally go with an ATX built in my nice blue Xaser III, but its size meant I just kept it in the cupboard most of the time and would just not bother 9/10 given the weight and hassle of setting it up in a space I could use it. So this ITX version that has more everyday use means it always available should I need it. Also using my old Ideazon Merc keyboard as it only seems to work properly under XP, along with my Sidewinder Force Feedback 2. The USB audio makes the complete package with that full EAX support, with its remote adding to its functionality as a HTPC.
This is a Vista/7 pc in my opinion, but of course that's MY opinion and opinions are worth nothing when it comes to nostalgia and personal preference :D My perfect XP machine is standing right next to me; a Pentium 4 3.60 Ghz with 4GB of RAM (XP only sees 3.25GB of it but it's all stable and useable) a 1000W Enermax psu (overkill) and an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (4GB). The reason I'm using a single-core cpu is because some older games don't like running on a multi-core cpu. Yes, I know about setting cpu-affinity in task manager but I own a couple of games that even crash occasionally when running on just one cpu, the only solution being a badass single-core like the P4. But I see what you were aiming for in this video and you nailed it! Awesome video man! Never forget our beloved XP :D
Thanks! Yes - it would be a beast of a Vista/7 machine as well - I agree. My next attempt at an even MORE over the top XP machine will be using an LGA1151 I7-6700K machine I currently use as a media centre, which is completely wasted for it's given task. My perfect XP machine would be based on my old Athlon XP 3200+, and i've been trying to do something with it in 2 motherboards and a mix of hardware, but no matter what I do on the build, the PC always restarts during the 3DMark2001 Advance Pixel Shader test. It isn't the ram, the GPU, the PSU, the storage or the motherboards, as with a 1700+ it completes the test just fine.? It's super confusing. I have yet another motherboard on the way - an ABIT NF7-S V2.0 - and with luck it'll complete the test. But will it run Crysis?
@@RetroKomodo Nice! I played around with one of those 3200+ cpus, some games ran way better than on my P4 while others ran a little slower, interesting cpu for sure. Crysis will be a piece of cake I think, depending on the RAM/GPU choice :)
@@consciousmushroom It'll be dual channel pc3200 ram, and my AGP HD 3850 with the replaced cooler. Another video will be me trying 3 or 4 aftermarket coolers on it to see which is best, and i'm working on a vid at the moment on making it's custom copper ram heatsink ;)
My old PC did run XP and windows 7 dual boot, with only 1 GB RAM, Intel with only 2 cores, Nvidea GTX 550 Ti, still capable of running those games and skyrim.
@@RetroKomodo It still works (ln 2021), but I cannibalized one of the HDD to my current PC and it got damaged, I believe it was a intel Pentium E6500 with a asus p5k SE motherboard DDR2. I still have XP pro installation discs with valid keys. Shame I lost win 7 disc, I bought one win7 key, don't know if it works again. I don't have room for another tower on my desk.
@@mariop8101 Tell me about it.. I have a desk in my room with 4 cases on that I can't get to because of the boxes of stuff in the way. I need to seriously de-clutter!!
Glad someone cobbled together this build knowing the max hardware that XP can work with. I have a similar build for XP using a 4690k and GTX 970. I've heard that the 1080 can somehow be coaxed into running on XP - that'd be a trip see. 👌🏻
My dream XP PC would be ONLY officially compatible/supported PC. Highest/fastest supported hardwares. Here it goes; (any comments?) CPU: Intel i7-3770K RAM: 2x2 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 (officially supported! No hacks, mods. Driver version: 344.11 - Nvidia forgot to remove those gpu cards from that version)
Oh I completely understand. Disc or GOG downloaded installers. Much like my film collection - I have most of the streaming platforms but prefer to use my disks. Btw the Disney copy of Predator is terrible quality - watch the Blu-ray instead ;)
Nice setup, i have a similar spec machine but with some changes: Mobo: Msi B85-G43 Gaming LGA1150 Cpu: Intel I7 4790S Gpu: Msi Geforce GTX 960 4GB GDDR5 Ram: G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-4GBXM 2GBX2 TOTAL 4GB RAM DDR3 1866mhz Storage: Crucial MX500 500GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, up to 560 MB/s PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GF2 ARGB 750W 80+ Gold 16.8 Case: I wrap everything up on a Fractal Design Meshify 2 Lite White TG 😅
True, and I have one in a drawer, but not much point when just getting stereo audio through into a capture card. I'm planning it's replacement though, and it'll have my X-FI card in it!
@@RetroKomodo Good to hear. Even with stereo you'll gain effects you won't otherwise hear, although I agree it's most beneficial when connected to a 5.1/7.1 speaker system.
I like your lovely PC. For the processor I think the best choice is an X79 motherboard. On it you can use Xeon 1680 v2 processor which is 8 cores with high ipc due to large cache and quad channel memory. When overclocked it can provide similar performance to AMD Ryzen 2700x and has native driver support for XP.
@@RetroKomodo maybe another 980ti as well so you can have some sli fun. X79 has enough pci lanes to run both with full bandwidth and you can go into quad sli if you feel the need for more 😆
@ronjatter I have no idea! I'll get around to it eventually but I'd need to source a replacement server PSU for it first I think. A good thing it was free..
Great! I have similar build for retro games (32 bit Windows XP/Vista/Seven installed) mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 3 CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.2 Ghz Cooler Master v8 CPU cooler RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 MTS [4GB Ramdisk for pagefiles) Sound: Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Fidelity GPU: Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming GTX 980 TI (GV-N98TXTREME-6GD) SSD: 1TB (Intel 730 series) PSU: ARESGAME 750W (AGW750) 80+ Bronze I think GTX 980 TI is too much overkill, plus 32 bit OS can't handle 6 GB VRAM and shows only 4 gig, but its still nice to know that you have absolute maximum possible performance for given OS
Nice! Well the 980 ti certainly does make Crysis perform better doesn't it? Actually.. I just made my PC MORE ultimate. Ultimate-er? So I'll be doing another video ;)
I could build another system like this.. I have another very similar system! But It'd have to be direct connect - no way I'm connecting this to the internet!
great build im running i7 3770 12 gb ram gpu gts 250 sadly for now psu 500watt real power moboard gigabyte z77 ds3h windows xp 32 and 64 bit on a msata ssd that i got for free 2tb hdd and a 480 gb ssd for windows 10 so im triplebooting with windows 10 it runs almost every win xp game i wanted to go with 4th gen but it was more expensive and drivers arent officially avavible(iknow i have to loook around and probably will find ) but i wanted ofical
@@RetroKomodo hmm maybe i dont know since 4th gen isnt officially supported for windows xp. There are drivers i think but they are unofficial and i cant know if they work or not since i use 3th gen i7 3770 combo i bought locally i73770 gigabyte Z77 ds3h 8gb 2x4 ram for under 100 euros (5000 macedonian denars) my countfy macedonia) installed xp wotked like a charm if you want max winxp compatability and pc yhat is ovrrkill 3th gen is high as you should go
Oh absolutely! I have both flavours now - PCI and PCI-E - both with their front panel boxes and all the connecting cables. I'm planning an XP 'Sound card benefit to FPS' video at some point, but I'm still collecting cards to round out the lineup 😞
Which ones? For everything apart from graphics and sound I use the Snappy Driver Installer. It's a big download, but i keep it on a USB stick and use it on all my old system installs!
Great video (watched a LOT of yours since discovering channel and Subbing) but I'm selling my 980ti cos its overkill.... Any XP only games will run at great frames on a lesser card. I'm going for an M2000 (equivalent or faster than any XP era flagship and using much less power in a single slot).
Wow 980TI for a Windows XP build even thought using a modded driver. My Windows XP "retro" build CPU: AMD FX-8300 Mobo: Asrock N68C-GS FX GPU: MSI Geforce GTX 960 4GB RAM: 2x2gb Kingston DDR3 1600 Storage: WD 1tb and WD 640GB HDD (I did not use SSD since XP dont have native TRIM support) Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 Window PSU: FSP HYPER K 700W ODD: LG DVDRW With your specs, you can do dual boot to have a powerful Windows 7 "retro" PC.
Great Video! Is this a 32 or 64 bit Windows XP? And which forceware version would you recommend? I'm building a i5 2500k with two 285 gtx in SLI, hope to get it working soon.
I've only ever dabbled with 32. I remember when it came out and the problems people had with 64 bit - issues that generally weren't there on 32 bit so I've steered clear ever since! As for a forceware version for SLI? Last time I did SLI was.. ooooh.. a long time ago! I honestly don't know what drivers set would be best for it! I'm sure someone out there must have tested various drivers with SLI 🤔
Good idea! However I'm kinda already drowning in cases and parts at the moment.. also the 4790k I'm already using is supposedly faster anyway according to cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/1977vs2384 ;)
1800 FPS in Quake 3? That's still weak, I need at least 3000 FPS. 😀 I have E8600 (I tested even Q9550, but there is no benefit from 4 cores in such games) and GTX460 or GTX 275 for XP gaming, there is pretty much no point in using something newer, because those games from like 2010 can run on Win 10 without any problem on your modern computer.
Mine is a multi-os rig. GTX 750 1gb factory oc'd, 8gb ddr3 1600, i5-3570, h77 mobo, SB X-Fi Titanium, all cooling is Noctua, LG blu-ray burner, bay drawer. XP sp3 "integral edition"I found on some website that has all the stuff already slipstreamed, and Ubuntu 20.04. The graphics card and gpu handle everything xp related, Ubuntu handles my online activity (my only Steam games are xp related or indi that I can't get on GOG).
I never got into Ubuntu and other Linux flavoured options.. I may start having a look at what's out there! With the amount of hardware switching I do I've not really looking into multiple booting yet. Perfectly good for XP and I like the bay drawer for the bits and bobs. Had one on my Amazon wish list for ages..
@@RetroKomodo ya, I don't have to swap any hardware out for this. I rarely use the internet on my PC anyway (I do everything on my phone) and Ubuntu handles my RUclips fix, my Retroarch fix, and my social media, and the XP is for all the past games I love. Since I can't safely go online with the xp part but need the chipset drivers installed, I put a physical toggle switch in line for the router so I can just disconnect access by turning it off on the line. You may want to look into it, if you don't need much in liu of internet access and/or many Microsoft or Apple specific apps. It's very lean on system resources and quite versatile, though there is a bit of a learning curve. You do still have to manually do some stuff but they've even developed a gui installer now to handle most things.
@@RetroKomodo also, again, depending on the apps, Ubuntu would be excellent for hardware switching. It doesn't go into a panic if you take the drive out of one machine and put it in another, or swap a cpu or other stuff. It just updates itself with the hardware in the system, and you don't have any limits to how often you can reconfigure it like Windows does (or at least used to).
@@RetroKomodo Ubuntu looks very much like it tbh. Just blocky. I keep referring to Ubuntu because I find it's the most similar to XP/7 and I don't really need to do much on it. Being not so software savvy, I find it's at least a decent introduction to Ubuntu (was great for me).
I been thinking about doing like a Ryzen 3 1300X or something similar I have 10GB of DDR3 1600mhz sitting around already I have HDD’s I has a few PSU’s my ATI 9800 512mgb would need to be upgraded to like I dunno that new budgets card NVidia came out with the 1030 or w/e that would be great for XP retro gaming get a cheap 1080p 165hz monitor for Wally World be G2G for about $5-600max
Could be tricky on Ryzen, but apparently can be done! www.reddit.com/r/windowsxp/comments/jnvgyr/question_how_to_install_xp_on_am4_b450/ but remember that XP won't use all that memory, and the fastest unofficial graphics card you can use is a GTX 980ti using GTX 960 drivers. I occasionally see that people have got 10 series graphics cards running on XP, but no idea how! I think Ivy Bridge was the last processor generation with native XP support. Anything newer and you are likely to get driver errors apparently!
Ah yes real XP gaming PC also needs classic theme for maximum performance. I used to do it on my crappy Windows XP PC just because I could save extra 2 MB of RAM for my (literally) on-board graphics chipset :).
Can't you actually use newer CPUs as long as you bundle drivers with the install? I remember overclocking coffeelake under windows xp at a convention competitively. The only problem would be stuff like usb controller incompatibility but you can always just get an old pcie card for USB and install that. And ps2 works too ofc.
Probably? I think it gets a bit tricky with the drivers.. I just randomly googled and found www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/hukopd/windows_xp_vista_7_and_81_working_on_intel_comet/
I'm actually in the middle of trying to build a new 'Ultimate' XP machine on a ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ALPHA with a i7-6700K. I'm having a hell of a time with USB just as you said - nothing is recognised!
I would love to connect to this to my LG C9 Oled TV, it runs in native 120hz at 1440p ! Input lag is super low, I played old school street fighter and UT99 with another PC on it, crazy low lag
Hi, my xp system is a haswell i7 5960x 8 core 16 threads 20mb L3 cache, hyperthreading and 6 cores diasabled, the 2 cores are overvlocked to 4.6ghz. Quad channel ddr4 16gb 2800mhz ram. Asus gtx 980 ti with factory overclock of 19% out of the box. High end asus rampage v extreme motherboard. 2x 2tb samsung ssd's in raid 1 for storing and running games and a ssd for xp sp3. Sound blaster xfi extreme fatality professional for 5.1 sound and native eax. I could never afford this tech new, i got it all on ebay mint condition used.
Damn. Just reading up on LGA 2011 XP installs.. how'd I let this get past me?! Ok! New build to plan! Thanks! EDIT: No need for a new build. My HTPC has an i7-7600k and 3000mhz ddr4. I may swap them over and see what happens :)
@@RetroKomodo crysis only uses 1 core fully and the second core lightly, i am cpu bound, about the same fps as your system. Oh i game on a 19 inch crt monitor at 1600x1200 75hz
@@EQUILIZER79 I wish I still had my CRT.. 21" 2048 × 1536. Can't for the life of me remember what I did with it.. now I can't stop browsing eBay for socket 2011!
Not that I know of? This was going back a while now though, and when I played around that time it was as B34RD3D1 or Bearded_1 or something along those lines!
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What do you even do with Windows XP nowadays? since in 2012 Windows XP seemed amazing but now what to do with it?
To get the ultimate XP PC (much faster) you need to use the x64 version of XP. It was always sad to see people use 64bit processors and then installing the 32bit version of XP, and it's still sad, especially when people are trying to create an "ultimate XP machine" etc. They have no idea what they're missing, or missed. Many people's memories or impressions about XP being slow or bad are largely due to them having only ever used the 32bit version, despite them often having had 64bit processors (so it didn't have to be like that for them), and of course also because they didn't use it with an SSD (usually not even a 10k RPM Raptor/VelociRaptor HDD). I've been using the x64 version since early 2006 and haven't installed a 32bit XP on any computer since then other than some very old 32bit-limited laptops. The x64 version supports 128GB of RAM so even if one is using old DDR2 mobos from the Core2Duo/Quad era one can use the full 8GB they offer. By the way the last update for x64 XP was released in May 2019, five whole years after XP """support""" was "ended". By far the best (the fastest and most secure and most bloat-free) x64 release is the one called "Superior Windows XP x64 Edition (64 bit) revival 6 2009" which is a very cleverly tweaked version of x64 XP, quite unique, faster than even the standard x64 XP and a lot of nonsense removed. Looks a bit odd at first just after it's installed (the arrow and colors) but a few minutes of basic customizing fixes that. When installing any version of XP remember to pre-align the SSD to 4k before installing (easiest way is a via a Win7 install disc). Of course with x64 XP you can run all the Maxwell cards using the same method as for 32bit XP. Only downside to x64 XP is that on-board mobo "HD Audio" doesn't work so you need a soundcard. If you really want to go all the way and make the truly ultimate XP machine then boot x64 XP (Superior Edition of course) from an NVMe SSD from an x99 or similar era mobo, I think x299 boards work as well; any board with a "Legacy boot" mode in the bios works, although keep in mind some of the later boards' on-board ethernet won't work for XP (32bit or x64) so with x99 and later boards you likely need a dedicated ethernet card. And use whatever highest-end Xeon processor available for the board.
You were right - long comment! I'll admit - i've never installed 64bit windows XP after hearing various comments on instability, but I don't see why I shouldn't give it a try - especially on newer hardware. Looking for "Superior Windows XP x64 Edition (64 bit) revival 6 2009" now!!
I'm curious as to whether these machines are safe to hook up to the internet now that there is no official support for the OS? Or do you purely keep these systems offline?
Personally I never put XP online any more. I believe there are ways to do it and stay safe? but I haven't really investigated! If I need patches etc I just transfer them via usb from my editing pc :)
@@RetroKomodo Thanks for the reply, I thought that may be the case! I'm seriously tempted to try and build myself an XP gaming machine - maybe not as high spec as this one - but I loved PC gaming during that era so I'm hoping it'll bring back some of the love I once had for gaming. Modern games just don't appeal to me anymore :(
It's pointless to connect to the internet with that because XP is already completely cutted off and you will not find any browser and antivirus which still works on today internet and is possible to install it on XP. I think the point of building retro gaming computer is to be online and not bothered by all those shits like updates and online features, you know that how you install it, it stays like that.
Apparently I wouldn't have been missing much! cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/1977vs2384 also - I didn't have one ;)
Sorry but I don't know! I wouldn't put an XP machine on the internet in 2022, so not something i've looked into i'm afraid. I know it can be done safely, but I only ever run XP offline these days :(
@@lukeautosymbol2668 All games with DX9 support fly, or you even need to put a GTX 780 Ti graphics card, these cards are very expensive and to this day they pull a lot of new games, for which ERRTI cards behind your eyes. there even GTA 4 flies at ultra settings in 1080p. the only thing is that not everyone will give out a lot of FPS games, the same Tomb Raider 2013 on XP and does not require more RAM and XP sees only 3.4 GB, because in the game in some places FPS will sink to 33 frames, even at the lowest settings. because you need more RAM in 1080p. and so it will rest against the RAM limit, but all games are fully playable and no game has sunk below 30. and I tested a lot of games, such as Metro Last Light, Assassin's Creed 1-2. Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, Max Payne 3, Remember Me, La Noire, Outlast 2013, Dishonored 1, Crysis 2. Resident Evil 6, Minecraft last version support 1.16.5. And most importantly I forgot to say all the games had to be downloaded on torrents, because steam does not work on XP, or install games from disks, if available.
I Have a dream for building windows xp gaming pc. Here are the specifications: 1. Motherboard(MSI H97 Gaming 3) 2. CPU(Intel Core I7 4790K) 3. Memory(32GB Kingston Hyper X Fury (4×8GB) DDR3 1600MHz 4. GPU(Zotac GTX 980 TI AMP Extreme) 5. SATA SSD(Adata SU800 256GB)WinXP 6. NVME SSD(Adata XPG SX 8200 256 GB)Win10 6. HDD(WD Blue 4TB) 7. PSU(ASUS ROG Strix 850w 80+ Gold) 8. Combat Chassis(Vurrion Rattle) 9. OS(Windows XP Professional X64 Edition Service Pack 1+Windows 10 Professional X64) For the SSD, I will use use both of them because I want to dualboot windows xp and windows 10 on my gaming pc
not sure if you mentioned it but nlite for xp is free I believe .. if you are not using it you should get some solid help making your installs if you should choose to use it ..
Go fasters are you crazy I don't think that is any monitor that goes more than 300fps and event if the are I don't think that is possible to see that Mach fps eny Way
True, but if you use the Snappy Driver Installer from sdi-tool.org/ it will install all the drivers in it! That's another video I need to do.. Take a look at Phils video on it here: ruclips.net/video/a4PTuaF8BO0/видео.html :)
Neither for 980ti. GTX 960 is the latest supported for XP. I am suspecting that most drivers are not installed properly, or missing entirely. A i5-3570K (overclocked with deactivated cores) + GTX960 is best you can have on XP 32bit.
Sorry to disappoint! I guess I could have another crack at it with a different setup, but I'd need another 980 ti.. That motherboard only has the one PCIE slot anyway!
SLI/Crossfire on Windows XP is only possible up to the GTX 580 and HD 6970. You can't do SLI with Kepler or Maxwell Cards or Crossfire with GCN on XP, you need Windows Vista or later for it. The PC isn't "half what it could have been" at all.
@@BladeRunner21577 See - every day is a school day. That's something I didn't know! Essentially i'm just a gamer with a stack of old hardware - when it comes to the background inner workings i'll absolutely admit to being mostly clueless!
It's normally the game or benchmark default when set to high settings, but I'll keep that in mind! I guess fair comparisons would be with all that stuff turned off 🤔
@@RetroKomodo Ya but the stupid graphic overlay with the targeting system is really annoying, you can't even notice the text on top with all the flashing and targeting.
Great Vid , man i miss Windows XP aka the Last Proper OS (Win7 comes second because of bloatware) btw is it possible to get your iso for Windows XP to use it as USB bootable ? Thanks in advance
I can't remember where I got it from but there was a video I watched where the chap had made an ISO with all the security fixes and that's where I got it from! Sorry I can't remember which one though
I also have my dream XP PC completed. Running an I7-980X 4GHz with NH-D15 on MSI Eclipse SLi, 12Gb Corsair XMS3 2133MHz, Two Asus DCU2 GTX 570s, RM850W and 512 Crucial MX500. Man is that machine a beast. I know 12 threads and 12Gbs of ram for XP 32bit is absolutely overkill but I love X58 platform.
Sounds great! How does the sli perform? Not touched that in years..
Before you install windows xp on the gaming computer with modern specs, you must set the windows xp iso with nlite to make the os works properly and no more blue screen while installing windows
@@ridhopinardi1274 Correct - using nlite you can inject AHCI drivers for SATA support.
how well does it run Win98/XP games?
@@RetroKomodo Well the SLi experience is a mixed bag. Some games run really well like 1.8x scaling, some nearly no scaling and some have graphic artifacts. No water textures in CoD MW and WaW, in 3DMark 03 everything has a yellow filter, FarCry weird textures flickering and so on. Its my first SLi setup and I understand why that technology had to go away. Now using a Titan X Hybrid (drivers installed thanks to your video) instead of those 570s
My Windows XP and Windows 7 dual Boot System:
HP Elite 8200 CMT
I5 2500
8 GB DDR3 1333
GeForce GTX 750ti 2GB
256 GB SSD for Windows XP
512 SSD for Windows 7 64b Ultimate
1 TB SATA 7.2rpm for Games.
DVD RW
Creative Audigy ZS
Runs fine and I can play all games 1996-2016 in High-Ultra High without problems.
are you able to run mods like ENBs for games like Fallout 3/NV and Morrowind?
This is literally my dream machine , wow you know your stuff many. Cpu and GPU too stuff , nearly the pinnacle of what is possible on XP
Not yet the pinnacle! I'm slowly working on a faster one. Very very slowly!
im impressed you managed to get 3D mark 99 to work on xp , 2000 was the earliest i could ever get working long term on my xp system , core i5 2500K with Radeon hd 7850
I can't remember where I got it, but I hunted around and found a 'fixed XP version' and a patch to use if you get an error. Interestingly, 2000 is the one I can't get working now!
basically i just put 3dmark 2000 in 98/me compat mode on xp and it fires right up , i will say from experience in trying nvidia and amd cards in xp systems , i tend to get more older games running on the amd cards but the last emulation options and special ones like the pcsx2 1.6 version that was modified for xp will only work on nvidia cards
I know what the problem is now - 3dm2000 is fine on a single core system, but on my e7600 i just can't get it going. So dual core = bad for 3dm2000 ;)
My XP PC is multi-purpose so it doesn't end up gathering dust in a cupboard. Its an ITX system based on the Asus P8x77i-Deluxe, i7 3770K@4.9GHZ, Corsair H80i, The same MSI 980ti, 16GB Kingston HyperX Beast 2400, 512GB Samsung 850 Pro SSD and 500GB Seagate SSHD, 24x DVD writer and USB Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Surround 5.1 Pro (v1 as that's the only one with XP drivers, the others work but no official drivers for EAXHD as I found with the v3 I originally bought for it), all in a coolermaster Elite 130.
I Triple boot XP and XP64 along with Windows 11 and its smaller size and windows 11 means it doubles as a HTPC as well. I did originally go with an ATX built in my nice blue Xaser III, but its size meant I just kept it in the cupboard most of the time and would just not bother 9/10 given the weight and hassle of setting it up in a space I could use it. So this ITX version that has more everyday use means it always available should I need it. Also using my old Ideazon Merc keyboard as it only seems to work properly under XP, along with my Sidewinder Force Feedback 2. The USB audio makes the complete package with that full EAX support, with its remote adding to its functionality as a HTPC.
Wow! That's pretty great having it multi boot like that. I'll have to give that a go. Great build!
How do you do the triple boot off of two drives?
This is a Vista/7 pc in my opinion, but of course that's MY opinion and opinions are worth nothing when it comes to nostalgia and personal preference :D My perfect XP machine is standing right next to me; a Pentium 4 3.60 Ghz with 4GB of RAM (XP only sees 3.25GB of it but it's all stable and useable) a 1000W Enermax psu (overkill) and an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (4GB). The reason I'm using a single-core cpu is because some older games don't like running on a multi-core cpu. Yes, I know about setting cpu-affinity in task manager but I own a couple of games that even crash occasionally when running on just one cpu, the only solution being a badass single-core like the P4. But I see what you were aiming for in this video and you nailed it! Awesome video man! Never forget our beloved XP :D
Thanks! Yes - it would be a beast of a Vista/7 machine as well - I agree. My next attempt at an even MORE over the top XP machine will be using an LGA1151 I7-6700K machine I currently use as a media centre, which is completely wasted for it's given task. My perfect XP machine would be based on my old Athlon XP 3200+, and i've been trying to do something with it in 2 motherboards and a mix of hardware, but no matter what I do on the build, the PC always restarts during the 3DMark2001 Advance Pixel Shader test. It isn't the ram, the GPU, the PSU, the storage or the motherboards, as with a 1700+ it completes the test just fine.? It's super confusing. I have yet another motherboard on the way - an ABIT NF7-S V2.0 - and with luck it'll complete the test. But will it run Crysis?
@@RetroKomodo Nice! I played around with one of those 3200+ cpus, some games ran way better than on my P4 while others ran a little slower, interesting cpu for sure. Crysis will be a piece of cake I think, depending on the RAM/GPU choice :)
@@consciousmushroom It'll be dual channel pc3200 ram, and my AGP HD 3850 with the replaced cooler. Another video will be me trying 3 or 4 aftermarket coolers on it to see which is best, and i'm working on a vid at the moment on making it's custom copper ram heatsink ;)
@@RetroKomodo Nice! This video made me sub so I'm Looking forward to those videos!
@@consciousmushroom I best get a move on then!
My old PC did run XP and windows 7 dual boot, with only 1 GB RAM, Intel with only 2 cores, Nvidea GTX 550 Ti, still capable of running those games and skyrim.
And no doubt you still can using the GeForce 314.14 driver from the looks of things! If you still have it that is :)
@@RetroKomodo It still works (ln 2021), but I cannibalized one of the HDD to my current PC and it got damaged, I believe it was a intel Pentium E6500 with a asus p5k SE motherboard DDR2. I still have XP pro installation discs with valid keys. Shame I lost win 7 disc, I bought one win7 key, don't know if it works again. I don't have room for another tower on my desk.
@@mariop8101 Tell me about it.. I have a desk in my room with 4 cases on that I can't get to because of the boxes of stuff in the way. I need to seriously de-clutter!!
Wow! This video was exceptional quality. I love your work.
Thanks! I'll be doing more after I get over my current Starfield obsession! 👍
Can't wait to see what you've got in store for us! Best wishes!@@RetroKomodo
Glad someone cobbled together this build knowing the max hardware that XP can work with. I have a similar build for XP using a 4690k and GTX 970. I've heard that the 1080 can somehow be coaxed into running on XP - that'd be a trip see. 👌🏻
I have a 1080.. might investigate!!
Great video! Good to see my old i7 getting used. I've been using a Thinkpad T60 with XP installed for some retro gaming.
My dream XP PC would be ONLY officially compatible/supported PC. Highest/fastest supported hardwares. Here it goes; (any comments?)
CPU: Intel i7-3770K
RAM: 2x2 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 (officially supported! No hacks, mods. Driver version: 344.11 - Nvidia forgot to remove those gpu cards from that version)
Why not a 4790k? I think the last one I got in a bidding war was about £60 ;) But yeah - sounds like a solid XP system!
@@RetroKomodo Ivy Bridge is the last generation that ‘officially’ supports Windows XP.
True. I was a little naughty!
@@International_Criminal_Court Why not Haswell? Does it have some problems with Win XP?
I rather have the actual CD's in my hand and not have to worry if Steam is still in business a few years from now unless it's free...
Oh I completely understand. Disc or GOG downloaded installers. Much like my film collection - I have most of the streaming platforms but prefer to use my disks. Btw the Disney copy of Predator is terrible quality - watch the Blu-ray instead ;)
Nice setup, i have a similar spec machine but with some changes:
Mobo: Msi B85-G43 Gaming LGA1150
Cpu: Intel I7 4790S
Gpu: Msi Geforce GTX 960 4GB GDDR5
Ram: G.Skill F3-14900CL9D-4GBXM 2GBX2 TOTAL 4GB RAM DDR3 1866mhz
Storage: Crucial MX500 500GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD, up to 560 MB/s
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GF2 ARGB 750W 80+ Gold 16.8
Case: I wrap everything up on a Fractal Design Meshify 2 Lite White TG
😅
A good solid build! More than XP ever expected - how does it handle Crysis?
@@RetroKomodo At least above 60fps at all ultra😅, thanks again for the vid, love your channel keep it up!! ✌🏻
You just forgot to add a Creative or Auzentech soundcard that does all the EAX versions to really make it an ultimate XP rig.
True, and I have one in a drawer, but not much point when just getting stereo audio through into a capture card. I'm planning it's replacement though, and it'll have my X-FI card in it!
@@RetroKomodo Good to hear. Even with stereo you'll gain effects you won't otherwise hear, although I agree it's most beneficial when connected to a 5.1/7.1 speaker system.
currently I have none XP machine...thinking about one.
I like your lovely PC. For the processor I think the best choice is an X79 motherboard. On it you can use Xeon 1680 v2 processor which is 8 cores with high ipc due to large cache and quad channel memory. When overclocked it can provide similar performance to AMD Ryzen 2700x and has native driver support for XP.
Ooooh. Means I'd have to buy more stuff!
@@RetroKomodo maybe another 980ti as well so you can have some sli fun. X79 has enough pci lanes to run both with full bandwidth and you can go into quad sli if you feel the need for more 😆
@ronjatter how about a Dell PowerEdge T430 with dual Xeon E5-2600 v4's?
@@RetroKomodo that sounds like a beast but will it run windows xp?
@ronjatter I have no idea! I'll get around to it eventually but I'd need to source a replacement server PSU for it first I think. A good thing it was free..
Great!
I have similar build for retro games (32 bit Windows XP/Vista/Seven installed)
mobo: Asrock Z77 Extreme 3
CPU: i5-3570K @ 4.2 Ghz Cooler Master v8 CPU cooler
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Stealth 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 2133 MTS [4GB Ramdisk for pagefiles)
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Xtreme Fidelity
GPU: Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming GTX 980 TI (GV-N98TXTREME-6GD)
SSD: 1TB (Intel 730 series)
PSU: ARESGAME 750W (AGW750) 80+ Bronze
I think GTX 980 TI is too much overkill, plus 32 bit OS can't handle 6 GB VRAM and shows only 4 gig, but its still nice to know that you have absolute maximum possible performance for given OS
Nice! Well the 980 ti certainly does make Crysis perform better doesn't it? Actually.. I just made my PC MORE ultimate. Ultimate-er? So I'll be doing another video ;)
@@RetroKomodo yes, it does!
looking forward for new video
Great to see inkjet again!! If you’ve got two of these I’ll give you a game of Counterstrike
I could build another system like this.. I have another very similar system! But It'd have to be direct connect - no way I'm connecting this to the internet!
@@RetroKomodo sounds like a plan!!
@@jasonpeachey2535 Also - you know you said Inkjet not Inknet don't you? 🙃
great build im running i7 3770 12 gb ram gpu gts 250 sadly for now psu 500watt real power moboard gigabyte z77 ds3h windows xp 32 and 64 bit on a msata ssd that i got for free 2tb hdd and a 480 gb ssd for windows 10 so im triplebooting with windows 10 it runs almost every win xp game i wanted to go with 4th gen but it was more expensive and drivers arent officially avavible(iknow i have to loook around and probably will find ) but i wanted ofical
I'd like to try a 4th gen system but I think one of the problems is USB drivers? Maybe that's why I haven't tried it yet!
@@RetroKomodo hmm maybe i dont know since 4th gen isnt officially supported for windows xp. There are drivers i think but they are unofficial and i cant know if they work or not since i use 3th gen i7 3770 combo i bought locally i73770 gigabyte Z77 ds3h 8gb 2x4 ram for under 100 euros (5000 macedonian denars) my countfy macedonia) installed xp wotked like a charm if you want max winxp compatability and pc yhat is ovrrkill 3th gen is high as you should go
Legendary intro. This video is going to be a joy to watch.
Thanks! The intro might be the best bit though ;)
@@RetroKomododont kid me xD
@@SuperSinSlayer ;)
Windows xp has a 64bit kernel. Im honestly surprised that nobody is developing or supporting for it. Winxp64bit steam box
All good except you've got no Creative EAX audio. Where's the Soundblaster X-fi Titanium Fatality? FEAR with EAX is insanely good compared to vanilla!
Oh absolutely! I have both flavours now - PCI and PCI-E - both with their front panel boxes and all the connecting cables. I'm planning an XP 'Sound card benefit to FPS' video at some point, but I'm still collecting cards to round out the lineup 😞
Thats my former rig's cpu. 4790k is a champ! I had the 970 tho. Lasted me from 2015-2022.
You found drivers for 980Ti. I thought that GTX960 is the top gpu supported for XP.
It is! Sort of.. have a look at the follow-up ruclips.net/video/63omFhP-0i8/видео.html
The second run for Doom 3 timedemo will give you the true framerate
I'll remember that for the next time - thanks!
Any chance you can upload the files to a google drive? I'm trying to build a win xp machine, using a i7 4770 + z87 itx mobo.
Which ones? For everything apart from graphics and sound I use the Snappy Driver Installer. It's a big download, but i keep it on a USB stick and use it on all my old system installs!
Yep, pretty overkill, but the nice thing is, you can play fairly modern games on low to medium settings on this same PC.
Multi-purpose! Makes me wonder how new a graphics card I can put in it before I get epic bottleneck issues in that CPU.
Great video (watched a LOT of yours since discovering channel and Subbing) but I'm selling my 980ti cos its overkill.... Any XP only games will run at great frames on a lesser card. I'm going for an M2000 (equivalent or faster than any XP era flagship and using much less power in a single slot).
Thanks! I need to stop playing games and do more ;) yeah - the 980 ti is a smidge overkill :)
1:40 ~ 2:55
Is this the vision of the T800?!
That was what I was going for, yes!
Wow 980TI for a Windows XP build even thought using a modded driver.
My Windows XP "retro" build
CPU: AMD FX-8300
Mobo: Asrock N68C-GS FX
GPU: MSI Geforce GTX 960 4GB
RAM: 2x2gb Kingston DDR3 1600
Storage: WD 1tb and WD 640GB HDD (I did not use SSD since XP dont have native TRIM support)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 Window
PSU: FSP HYPER K 700W
ODD: LG DVDRW
With your specs, you can do dual boot to have a powerful Windows 7 "retro" PC.
Very nice! I used to have an FX chip but I think I sold that machine :(
Great Video! Is this a 32 or 64 bit Windows XP? And which forceware version would you recommend?
I'm building a i5 2500k with two 285 gtx in SLI, hope to get it working soon.
I've only ever dabbled with 32. I remember when it came out and the problems people had with 64 bit - issues that generally weren't there on 32 bit so I've steered clear ever since! As for a forceware version for SLI? Last time I did SLI was.. ooooh.. a long time ago! I honestly don't know what drivers set would be best for it! I'm sure someone out there must have tested various drivers with SLI 🤔
phenom x4 9950 black edition, gigabyte ma790fx dq6, geforce 8800 gtx or geforce gtx 680, windows xp professional 32 bit, windows vista ultimate 64 bit
I still have my phenom somewhere from back in the day, but I think I switched to Intel for power and heat reasons..
Nice video! Wait when you make another ultimate Xp-build: motherboard LGA 2011 + i7-4960X + GTX Titan X 12 Gb
Good idea! However I'm kinda already drowning in cases and parts at the moment.. also the 4790k I'm already using is supposedly faster anyway according to cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/1977vs2384 ;)
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@@andreyilkevich Aga!
1800 FPS in Quake 3? That's still weak, I need at least 3000 FPS. 😀 I have E8600 (I tested even Q9550, but there is no benefit from 4 cores in such games) and GTX460 or GTX 275 for XP gaming, there is pretty much no point in using something newer, because those games from like 2010 can run on Win 10 without any problem on your modern computer.
I'll try for more FPS in my next build!
Mine is a multi-os rig. GTX 750 1gb factory oc'd, 8gb ddr3 1600, i5-3570, h77 mobo, SB X-Fi Titanium, all cooling is Noctua, LG blu-ray burner, bay drawer. XP sp3 "integral edition"I found on some website that has all the stuff already slipstreamed, and Ubuntu 20.04. The graphics card and gpu handle everything xp related, Ubuntu handles my online activity (my only Steam games are xp related or indi that I can't get on GOG).
I never got into Ubuntu and other Linux flavoured options.. I may start having a look at what's out there! With the amount of hardware switching I do I've not really looking into multiple booting yet. Perfectly good for XP and I like the bay drawer for the bits and bobs. Had one on my Amazon wish list for ages..
@@RetroKomodo ya, I don't have to swap any hardware out for this. I rarely use the internet on my PC anyway (I do everything on my phone) and Ubuntu handles my RUclips fix, my Retroarch fix, and my social media, and the XP is for all the past games I love. Since I can't safely go online with the xp part but need the chipset drivers installed, I put a physical toggle switch in line for the router so I can just disconnect access by turning it off on the line. You may want to look into it, if you don't need much in liu of internet access and/or many Microsoft or Apple specific apps. It's very lean on system resources and quite versatile, though there is a bit of a learning curve. You do still have to manually do some stuff but they've even developed a gui installer now to handle most things.
@@RetroKomodo also, again, depending on the apps, Ubuntu would be excellent for hardware switching. It doesn't go into a panic if you take the drive out of one machine and put it in another, or swap a cpu or other stuff. It just updates itself with the hardware in the system, and you don't have any limits to how often you can reconfigure it like Windows does (or at least used to).
@@mariastevens6406 I'm fault sure I remember seeing a distro that looks like xp.. but not looked in many years!
@@RetroKomodo Ubuntu looks very much like it tbh. Just blocky. I keep referring to Ubuntu because I find it's the most similar to XP/7 and I don't really need to do much on it. Being not so software savvy, I find it's at least a decent introduction to Ubuntu (was great for me).
Underrated
Thanks!
I been thinking about doing like a Ryzen 3 1300X or something similar I have 10GB of DDR3 1600mhz sitting around already I have HDD’s I has a few PSU’s my ATI 9800 512mgb would need to be upgraded to like I dunno that new budgets card NVidia came out with the 1030 or w/e that would be great for XP retro gaming get a cheap 1080p 165hz monitor for Wally World be G2G for about $5-600max
Could be tricky on Ryzen, but apparently can be done! www.reddit.com/r/windowsxp/comments/jnvgyr/question_how_to_install_xp_on_am4_b450/ but remember that XP won't use all that memory, and the fastest unofficial graphics card you can use is a GTX 980ti using GTX 960 drivers. I occasionally see that people have got 10 series graphics cards running on XP, but no idea how! I think Ivy Bridge was the last processor generation with native XP support. Anything newer and you are likely to get driver errors apparently!
This would be a short video idea but I would be really curious to see how the browser Supermium runs on that system
I'm pretty sure I sold this one! I do have plenty of other XP machines though ;)
Ah yes real XP gaming PC also needs classic theme for maximum performance. I used to do it on my crappy Windows XP PC just because I could save extra 2 MB of RAM for my (literally) on-board graphics chipset :).
I couldn't agree more!
Can't you actually use newer CPUs as long as you bundle drivers with the install? I remember overclocking coffeelake under windows xp at a convention competitively. The only problem would be stuff like usb controller incompatibility but you can always just get an old pcie card for USB and install that. And ps2 works too ofc.
Probably? I think it gets a bit tricky with the drivers.. I just randomly googled and found www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/hukopd/windows_xp_vista_7_and_81_working_on_intel_comet/
I'm actually in the middle of trying to build a new 'Ultimate' XP machine on a ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ALPHA with a i7-6700K. I'm having a hell of a time with USB just as you said - nothing is recognised!
Should be able to install windows 2000 on it with appropriate patches and all that good stuff
Oh absolutely
I would love to connect to this to my LG C9 Oled TV, it runs in native 120hz at 1440p ! Input lag is super low, I played old school street fighter and UT99 with another PC on it, crazy low lag
That sounds great! Ooooh I need to install the HD pack for UT99.. I keep forgetting!
Check your comment moderation section. Wrote a long reply but YT hid the comment.
Hi, my xp system is a haswell i7 5960x 8 core 16 threads 20mb L3 cache, hyperthreading and 6 cores diasabled, the 2 cores are overvlocked to 4.6ghz.
Quad channel ddr4 16gb 2800mhz ram.
Asus gtx 980 ti with factory overclock of 19% out of the box.
High end asus rampage v extreme motherboard.
2x 2tb samsung ssd's in raid 1 for storing and running games and a ssd for xp sp3.
Sound blaster xfi extreme fatality professional for 5.1 sound and native eax.
I could never afford this tech new, i got it all on ebay mint condition used.
Bloody hell! What's your Crysis FPS??
Damn. Just reading up on LGA 2011 XP installs.. how'd I let this get past me?! Ok! New build to plan! Thanks!
EDIT: No need for a new build. My HTPC has an i7-7600k and 3000mhz ddr4. I may swap them over and see what happens :)
@@RetroKomodo crysis only uses 1 core fully and the second core lightly, i am cpu bound, about the same fps as your system.
Oh i game on a 19 inch crt monitor at 1600x1200 75hz
@@EQUILIZER79 I wish I still had my CRT.. 21" 2048 × 1536. Can't for the life of me remember what I did with it.. now I can't stop browsing eBay for socket 2011!
How well does it run Win98/early XP games? And have you tried modding any games like Morrowind or Oblivion on it at all?
Hey Komodo, did you ever play on the Teeside university CS:S server?
Not that I know of? This was going back a while now though, and when I played around that time it was as B34RD3D1 or Bearded_1 or something along those lines!
What do you even do with Windows XP nowadays? since in 2012 Windows XP seemed amazing but now what to do with it?
For fun. :v
Your name checks out.
Your name checks out.
I have a LG c9 OLED and want to connect it to play games 1440p at 120hz
Shouldn't be an issue - just use an HDMI cable?
Would you try Grim dawn next time if necessary，it‘s a more morden game with huge vram needs
True, but as a Steam game i wouldn't be able to get it working on XP ;)
But then I read wp.xin.at/archives/4955?fdx_switcher=true so.. maybe?
To get the ultimate XP PC (much faster) you need to use the x64 version of XP. It was always sad to see people use 64bit processors and then installing the 32bit version of XP, and it's still sad, especially when people are trying to create an "ultimate XP machine" etc. They have no idea what they're missing, or missed. Many people's memories or impressions about XP being slow or bad are largely due to them having only ever used the 32bit version, despite them often having had 64bit processors (so it didn't have to be like that for them), and of course also because they didn't use it with an SSD (usually not even a 10k RPM Raptor/VelociRaptor HDD). I've been using the x64 version since early 2006 and haven't installed a 32bit XP on any computer since then other than some very old 32bit-limited laptops. The x64 version supports 128GB of RAM so even if one is using old DDR2 mobos from the Core2Duo/Quad era one can use the full 8GB they offer. By the way the last update for x64 XP was released in May 2019, five whole years after XP """support""" was "ended". By far the best (the fastest and most secure and most bloat-free) x64 release is the one called "Superior Windows XP x64 Edition (64 bit) revival 6 2009" which is a very cleverly tweaked version of x64 XP, quite unique, faster than even the standard x64 XP and a lot of nonsense removed. Looks a bit odd at first just after it's installed (the arrow and colors) but a few minutes of basic customizing fixes that. When installing any version of XP remember to pre-align the SSD to 4k before installing (easiest way is a via a Win7 install disc). Of course with x64 XP you can run all the Maxwell cards using the same method as for 32bit XP. Only downside to x64 XP is that on-board mobo "HD Audio" doesn't work so you need a soundcard. If you really want to go all the way and make the truly ultimate XP machine then boot x64 XP (Superior Edition of course) from an NVMe SSD from an x99 or similar era mobo, I think x299 boards work as well; any board with a "Legacy boot" mode in the bios works, although keep in mind some of the later boards' on-board ethernet won't work for XP (32bit or x64) so with x99 and later boards you likely need a dedicated ethernet card. And use whatever highest-end Xeon processor available for the board.
You were right - long comment! I'll admit - i've never installed 64bit windows XP after hearing various comments on instability, but I don't see why I shouldn't give it a try - especially on newer hardware. Looking for "Superior Windows XP x64 Edition (64 bit) revival 6 2009" now!!
in my experience, XP x64 is rock solid, there exists HD Audio drivers for xp x64 just you gotta dig for 'em
@@nukkonyan it's on my to-do list for 2023 ;)
alot of the newer games from 2010 and 2011 required 32bit of windows
Honestly if you’re gonna run x64 XP you might as well just run 7.
Also, holy line breaks.
I'm curious as to whether these machines are safe to hook up to the internet now that there is no official support for the OS? Or do you purely keep these systems offline?
Personally I never put XP online any more. I believe there are ways to do it and stay safe? but I haven't really investigated! If I need patches etc I just transfer them via usb from my editing pc :)
@@RetroKomodo Thanks for the reply, I thought that may be the case! I'm seriously tempted to try and build myself an XP gaming machine - maybe not as high spec as this one - but I loved PC gaming during that era so I'm hoping it'll bring back some of the love I once had for gaming. Modern games just don't appeal to me anymore :(
@@mrbrit6746 I know!! As flashy as they are I still find myself wanting to play Unreal 2 again..
It's pointless to connect to the internet with that because XP is already completely cutted off and you will not find any browser and antivirus which still works on today internet and is possible to install it on XP. I think the point of building retro gaming computer is to be online and not bothered by all those shits like updates and online features, you know that how you install it, it stays like that.
You could have done an i7 4960x ?!?!
Xp/2003 x64
Unofficially run Xp on a 13900K
Apparently I wouldn't have been missing much! cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4960X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K/1977vs2384 also - I didn't have one ;)
Whats best wifi card for windows xp?
Sorry but I don't know! I wouldn't put an XP machine on the internet in 2022, so not something i've looked into i'm afraid. I know it can be done safely, but I only ever run XP offline these days :(
I have config for windows xp , fx8350, ddr3 16gb see 3.6gb, gtx980ti.
That sounds like an excellent machine! Could also be used for Windows 10 gaming :)
@@RetroKomodo I just use it, I put 3 ssd on one is windows xp, on the second is Windows 7, and on 3 is Windows 10
How well does it run Windows 98 and early XP games?
@@lukeautosymbol2668 All games with DX9 support fly, or you even need to put a GTX 780 Ti graphics card, these cards are very expensive and to this day they pull a lot of new games, for which ERRTI cards behind your eyes. there even GTA 4 flies at ultra settings in 1080p. the only thing is that not everyone will give out a lot of FPS games, the same Tomb Raider 2013 on XP and does not require more RAM and XP sees only 3.4 GB, because in the game in some places FPS will sink to 33 frames, even at the lowest settings. because you need more RAM in 1080p. and so it will rest against the RAM limit, but all games are fully playable and no game has sunk below 30. and I tested a lot of games, such as Metro Last Light, Assassin's Creed 1-2. Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3, Max Payne 3, Remember Me, La Noire, Outlast 2013, Dishonored 1, Crysis 2. Resident Evil 6, Minecraft last version support 1.16.5. And most importantly I forgot to say all the games had to be downloaded on torrents, because steam does not work on XP, or install games from disks, if available.
Btw great content komodo
Witcher 2 is more dmmanding than Crysis and run on WInXP
Oooh. I'll see if I can dig up a copy of it on disk - thanks! Is there a benchmark?
I Have a dream for building windows xp gaming pc. Here are the specifications:
1. Motherboard(MSI H97 Gaming 3)
2. CPU(Intel Core I7 4790K)
3. Memory(32GB Kingston Hyper X Fury (4×8GB) DDR3 1600MHz
4. GPU(Zotac GTX 980 TI AMP Extreme)
5. SATA SSD(Adata SU800 256GB)WinXP
6. NVME SSD(Adata XPG SX 8200 256 GB)Win10
6. HDD(WD Blue 4TB)
7. PSU(ASUS ROG Strix 850w 80+ Gold)
8. Combat Chassis(Vurrion Rattle)
9. OS(Windows XP Professional X64 Edition Service Pack 1+Windows 10 Professional X64)
For the SSD, I will use use both of them because I want to dualboot windows xp and windows 10 on my gaming pc
That'd be a great system for both!
Intel Haswell and Nvidia Maxwell on XP 🤨 Whut ? How ?
All driver supported! Sort of..
I'm running XP on an i7 3970x, 32gb Ram and a Titan Z (For SLI), if you are on the book of faces check out "Not Quite Retro Machines"
I will!
@@RetroKomodo cool, we have a nice little group of tech nerds
@@jasonsanders1244 I asked to join!
@@RetroKomodo should auto accept unless you are on a brand new account
@@jasonsanders1244 already in and said hi ;)
32bit windows ?
Yup. 64 bit XP has compatibility issues. 32 bit is far more stable
@@RetroKomodo you wont be using your ram then :P
@@Brommes well.. a maximum of about 3.25gb? Most of these old motherboard support a maximum of 4gb anyway!
@@RetroKomodo fyi I used xp pro x64 for years never had any instability plus you can run multi cores 😀👍
not sure if you mentioned it but nlite for xp is free I believe .. if you are not using it you should get some solid help making your installs if you should choose to use it ..
Go fasters are you crazy I don't think that is any monitor that goes more than 300fps and event if the are I don't think that is possible to see that Mach fps eny Way
Maybe, but it's a lot smoother ;)
Windoesoso
hmmmm.. officially there are no drivers for Windows XP for your motherboard
True, but if you use the Snappy Driver Installer from sdi-tool.org/ it will install all the drivers in it! That's another video I need to do.. Take a look at Phils video on it here: ruclips.net/video/a4PTuaF8BO0/видео.html :)
Neither for 980ti. GTX 960 is the latest supported for XP. I am suspecting that most drivers are not installed properly, or missing entirely.
A i5-3570K (overclocked with deactivated cores) + GTX960 is best you can have on XP 32bit.
@@ares23dc correct - no official drivers - but you can use modified drivers and they work just fine. ruclips.net/video/63omFhP-0i8/видео.html
Dual up those CPUs and didnt they make the 980Ti SLi capable?
Another Ultimate XP build thats about half what it could have been.
Sorry to disappoint! I guess I could have another crack at it with a different setup, but I'd need another 980 ti.. That motherboard only has the one PCIE slot anyway!
SLI/Crossfire on Windows XP is only possible up to the GTX 580 and HD 6970. You can't do SLI with Kepler or Maxwell Cards or Crossfire with GCN on XP, you need Windows Vista or later for it.
The PC isn't "half what it could have been" at all.
@@qpwoeiruty668 Thats interesting to know. I did wonder why mine doesnt have the connector on the top of the card.
@@RetroKomodo XP uses per socket licencing not per CPU like Win2k does ;-)
@@BladeRunner21577 See - every day is a school day. That's something I didn't know! Essentially i'm just a gamer with a stack of old hardware - when it comes to the background inner workings i'll absolutely admit to being mostly clueless!
Please stop using stupid amounts of AA. No one should use over 4x
It's normally the game or benchmark default when set to high settings, but I'll keep that in mind! I guess fair comparisons would be with all that stuff turned off 🤔
You didn't even say what parts were in the rig other than what year the parts were from. Really bad video.
The make and model of the parts appear on screen at the time they are being identified. They're also in the video description.
@@RetroKomodo Ya but the stupid graphic overlay with the targeting system is really annoying, you can't even notice the text on top with all the flashing and targeting.
Great Vid , man i miss Windows XP aka the Last Proper OS (Win7 comes second because of bloatware)
btw is it possible to get your iso for Windows XP to use it as USB bootable ? Thanks in advance
I can't remember where I got it from but there was a video I watched where the chap had made an ISO with all the security fixes and that's where I got it from! Sorry I can't remember which one though
Its possible to get iso for windows xp ethier 32 or 64 bit the problem is installing it from usb for me tool called YUMI worked for 32 and 64bit winxp
@@energygameplay6513 What I use is Easy2boot after I watched this PhilsComputerLab video - ruclips.net/video/-nZAhE0SetM/видео.html :)
Overkill
Of course. That's the best kind of kill.
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Nope. I'll make my own way thanks!