CNN : Christiane Amanpour Interview Paul Kagame 19 march 2010 (English)
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- (CNN) -- Rwandan President Paul Kagame hit back Monday at human rights activists who say he's behaving like an autocrat and fueling a bloody civil war in Rwanda's neighbor, Congo.
"If you are talking about people in the human rights community from outside... I have an issue with this," Kagame said, 16 years after he was hailed as a hero for ending a genocide that killed at least 800,000 people.
"You tend to make a judgment of a country, 11 million people, on what a couple of people have said and (they) don't take into account what Rwandans say."
Kagame added, "Nobody has asked the Rwandans ... it's as if they don't matter in the eyes of the human rights people. It's our own decisions in the end."
He said everyone in Rwanda has to play by the rules and be accountable. "There has to be leadership to make things move in the right direction," Kagame stated.
Kagame's comments came a month after the New York-based group, Human Rights Watch, said opposition activists are facing increasing threats, attacks, and harassment ahead of Rwanda's presidential election in August.
Human Rights Watch said opposition party members have suffered serious intimidation by individuals and institutions close to the government and Kagame's ruling Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF).
The RPF took power in 1994 after its army swept into the capital of Kigali and overthrew the Hutu-dominated government responsible for the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Rwandans, most of them members of the minority Tutsi community.
In the aftermath of the 100-day genocide, the fastest in modern history, Kagame transformed his country, turning it into one of the fastest growing nations in Africa and -- in the view of some -- a model of economic and social development.
Kagame said Rwanda has made significant progress in erasing some of the scars left behind after the tragedy.
"That's why the country is stable. That's why the country is moving on. That's why the country is developing."
Kagame insisted he has nothing to do with the continuing civil war in mineral-rich Congo, even though he acknowledged that Rwandan troops intervened there a decade ago in an attempt to stop rebel groups from returning to Rwanda.
The war became the largest and most destructive conflict in African history, costing more than 5 million lives, as various groups and foreign armies fought for control of Congo's land and mineral resources.
"I cannot be blamed for the problems of Congo or any other country," Kagame said. "There are the Congolese who have their own country, who are supposed to manage it, who are supposed to govern it. It has nothing to do with me."
Wrote by Tom Evans, CNN
March 15, 2010 8:09 p.m. EDT
In Kenya we love President Paul Kagame. We call him "Kiboko." A vevry strong animal. God bless you Kiboko.
KAGAME IS LIKED BY MANY AFRICANS! I LIKE HIS SENSE OF ASSERTIVENESS.
As a South African I think President Kagame is probably the best overall African leader I know by far. He has clear vision, smart and courageous...
Christiane Amanpour...should stop asking about African situations, she has no clue!
We Rwandans ,we love our president ''Paul kagame we cant listen to you who speak no sense matters.we shall fight for our rights till to die .live our president,its we who knows how much he means to us. Be great Rwanda!!!!
I just can't stand anyone questioning Paul Kagame of any negative things. This man is the greatest President Africa has ever had after President Nelson Mandela. I wish he was the President of Nigeria. You people should go and question Buhari and his atrocities
Amanpour shame on you... can't let him finish a sentence... u can't do that to western leaders... try with Trump...
This is 2023 and I'm listening to this interview
Kagame is our choice ❤
We love Rwanda 🇷🇼♥️👑
thank you so much my lovely president god bless you and you country
sadiki Rukara rwanda a criminal country
Paul Kagame is referring to the Hutu refugee camps in Goma in Congo after the Tutsi massacre. For anyone interested in aid and corruption I'd suggest looking into the Goma disaster.
HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT TILL 2025 OR IS IT 2035,,,,,
Why not
wawawawhhhh 9:20 niko dukwiriye kwishura abazungu ! .... That shows a true leader not a follower .. talkin bout something they dont even know.. Go kagame ! ! ! I respect you ! but seriouzly , ur stomach can never stay full , you can eat all you want today but tomorrow you will be looking for more.! so even tho kagame helped the tutsi, hutu twa escape the poverty , there will still b an intruder ! Same as obama !
Mr paul kagame rebuilt his country and his people got ftree education and health care this time they lived good life and they have many things about their life even jobs the country got foreign investment
@gabiro84 Your opinion does not really matter, what matters is action or actions that brought about the change Rwanda has never seen, and you ain't seen nothing yet.
@ericnjanga rwanda has a population of only 10 million people. Recovery was difficult but not impossible and swift enough. Furthermore, Kagame is heavily dependent on foreign aid, he gets the job done? Socially the country has barely developed in that his dictatorial stronghold has held it back from doing so. Others coulkd get the job done better, too bad he wins by an astounding 93%, a rather eery figure if you ask me
The western world are hypocrites. Kagame should learn from Singapore and Lee Kuan Yew and be firm to these hypocrites. Quoting LYK, "It is not in the business of the ruling party to help the opposition party. The ruling party is there to serve its people." "We have the western media in our country so that our people can know what the world is reading about us. We do not need the western media to be inquisitors or meddle with our internal policies."
Paul kagame don't allow them again this People run away when Rwanda needed them
This man is something, God has already bless him,
This is a very smart man.. we need more leaders in Africa like him
that's the man!!!
This Kagame guy reminds me of Zak MacKracken.
Real amazing interview
christiane amanpour leaders who want to rule the world.... am looking for the promo between 2009 till 2013?
What no c time Future
@lemis1900 Your unintelligent reaction to my logical comment is at best simplistic and at worst idiotic. Therefore, it is unworthy of an intellectual reply. I venture to suggest you search for someone of similar ability.
@marpeja I will respond to you honnestly. The reason is that Kagame returned to Africa from school in Kansas, USA and implimented the discipline Africa has never seen before from any previous leader. 1- No corruption or you die. 2- No revenge of ethnic conflicts. 3- minorities especially women must and must be empowered than men, because men are the cause of conflict and mismanagement.4-Respecting one another by force. 5- education by force6 6- security for all by force, but no opposition
@marpeja But we Ugandans, we envy this country for only two things: corruption free government system and nation-wide security. This country is the most safest and secured country in the World. I was in the USA, Asia and Africa my Continent, there's no secure place than Rwanda. I don't like the fact that opposition is silenced in Rwanda, but the rest is unheard of, in Africa. I hope you will get an idea about this tinny mysterious African country, let by a smart dictator trained in the USA.
@marpeja This tinny African country has the most disciplined and educated Army in Africa if not in the world, but that was due to the fact that during their genocide of 1994, This president led all volunteers Army of young boys and girls who were living in USA, Canada, Europe and elsewhere in Africa, and they were all educated. It's the only Army in Africa where a private or a coporal has a degree. It's the only country in Africa to have the most educated women in high levels of government
at 08:25 "Victoire Ingabire is saying there was a genocide of the Hutu"...well, she is right. Paul Kagame's RPF army started killing off hutu populations the minute they set foot in Rwanda in 1990 and they are still trying their best to reduce the Hutus in numbers. Those who fled to the Congo were hunted down and massacred in 1996-97. Even in this interview Kagame admits he wishes the hutu refugees didn't receive humanitarian aid.
this guy is really above all the usual african presidents, he even top the level of
some eastern leaders. He achieved to topple in his lifetime two of what africa counted as ridiculous self appointed "Marechal" , I mean MODUTU and IDI AMIN. Doing this he's helped to set free people in Congo and in Uganda. His life story is an incredible movie.
@marpeja 7- It's first time in African history to have a leader who wants his country's future based not on natural resources, but on technology. The only country to get fully connected to fiber optic by force. But above all, he does not use his country's money to enrich himself like other African presidents. His critics only point to his mentality of using force to get every thing done. We want a president like this guy in UGANDA for only 5 to 10 years, UGANDA will be the envy of the World
@ericnjanga wat abt Rwanda 1973 Habyrimana govt. the same international praise. the same international concern. the same human rights situation. Rwanda cannot keep exporting refugees. in kenya, uganda, tanzania etc Rwanda's largest export is its citizens...
@TheAsira we didnt kill you ppls.if we did then they wount be any of you left includin you.stop yepyyapin
94% of rwandans voted for kagame in the last election, i think that speaks for itself.
@MOYOwaBANTU...I'm not only displaying the prblm but I'm also denouncing it...Don't expect me to put my actions online.
@ab435 if all humans thaught like that, reguarding the wars that has been we'd all be dead
@Tafras
My greatest fear is that when they open eyes, It's some1 like u they will see
My president is Paul Kagame and I'm not Rwandan
@ab435
Look pal, dat's a short term solution while he wants a long term 1
a careful l combination of democracy and some strong sense of autocracy is the trick. thank you paul kagame
@panafricanboy
Upset is the best discreption....and he is right
@MrZAIREMAN Allow me a personal question: are you a Hutu?
An unenlightening interview by CA. Drastically edited.
Mr president, you are the best.God bls you.
@kirundo1 Excellent, many thanks.
Kagame is a great man. One of the greatest in Africa. Determined, Committed and Focused...May God increase his days of life, that he may witness his enemies ashamed of the great Rwanda. Thank you Paul, Thank you Kagame!
Paul Kagame torched Habyarimana's plane because he's power hungry. Cud not wait for peaceful means and he caused genocide in the process, what a useless prick . Lives of more than 1m pple , all becouse Paul Kagame has to go into power! What a shame ! I have no faith in the future of mankind because of pests like him. Im sad to be honest. Surrounding himself with a gvt of dead wood ensures continuity of dominance. He seems quite good at dodging accountability. Good for you PK, kill as you like!
In the beginning when she was asking about the development of Rwanda he kept quiet and listened to the question but as she was going farther to the negative questions he started getting excited. Have you people noticed that Paul Kagame was kinda like silencing christiane, he doesn't let her finnish what she is trying to say.This was not a succesfull interview in my opinion.
how much money has he got in his back pocket,,, he is not IMPRESSIVE,,,,