I love these Trek Facts videos! And really liked how you used various footage that aligned with your narrative in telling the backstory of the Omega Directive. Well done!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Anything that has the potential to destroy all possibility of Warp travel, seemingly permanently, for everyone everywhere, would be the worst thing I could think of for an interstellar civilization. Said civilization would instantly come to an end, as it would take multiple lifetimes to get to places that were previously a few days away. Trillions of colonists on the further out planets would undoubtedly starve to death without the supply shipments they depended on. Everyone would be stranded where they were when the event happened, seperating families forever, etc. It truly is a horrifying outcome.
Erm? What about the alien race trying to use it as their "last chance" to survive? A pre-warp civilization that voyager basically doomed, didn't think they might make more when they left OR didn't seem to give a shit about them at all. Seriously the crew don't even talk about them, that's like aliens appearing and taking away all our nuclear reactors and then leaving. So no this episode is very bad :p
Thank you so much! It's hard to maintain, I think every bit of my free time goes in to them, but for me it's worth it.... The interaction alone with other fans makes it worth while!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I usually binge your videos along with Junkball and Ketwolski. It's fun to see people get so into the details as much as you guys do. Glad it's working out for you and keep up the good work!
As has been mentioned in a few comments below, it's unclear why Section 31 wouldn't use Omega as a precision strike weapon. They could have detonated a few hundred Omega bombs on the Gamma quadrant side of the wormhole to prevent Dominion reinforcements. Of course DS9 was over before the Omega story was written and aired, but still...
possibly because section 31 isn't 100% evil, they just believe in morally dubious ways of protecting the federation but they do still believe in federation ideals (they just think that the only way to safeguard those ideals is for they themselves to break them--so men like Julian Bashir can sleep at night)... to destroy subspace in the gamma quadrant would've meant there was no future possible for exploration there. perhaps if things became completely hopeless they'd have done it as a last resort, but as long as they believed their biological warfare plan was going to work they didn't need to cut off a whole section of the galaxy to future exploration and peaceful alliances, which they wanted the federation to be able to do with a clean image (hence they take on the dirty work for themselves). it's also possible they weren't capable of producing it in a proper weaponized way, they'd have had to get a scientist capable of doing so and basically doom that scientist to a suicide mission of producing it in the gamma quadrant. sure they could probably access all the classified info about it since they're so well infiltrated into starfleet, but that doesn't mean they had the capability to produce it, and they might have found it too dangerous to even try. they'd basically have to set up a facility within the gamma quadrant with people willing to either get themselves killed or stranded. I suppose it'd have been possible to find someone willing to do such a suicide mission to save the alpha quadrant but it'd have to be someone not only willing (and without moral qualms about what it means to completely doom an entire quadrant to not have access to space travel) but also having the technical skills and knowledge. and of course your last out of world explanation is why the possibility wouldn't have even been addressed--omega hadn't been invented as a fictional concept yet hahaha.
Same reason you don't really want to use nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. You could win the battle but then would be left with awful side effects and useless spoils in the future.
Another great video, thank you. I knew that communications travelled through subspace but I always thought that ships, in standard warp speed, stayed in normal, though warped, space. Can't understand why Starfleet thought it necessary to keep the Omega Particle secret, and something that important would surely slip out, one way or another. 😁
Unfortunately these videos (and the channel generally) do not observe Beta Canon, as Beta Canon is actually not canon at all... It's like being a little bit pregnant... Canon is a matter of fact and as the Title Suggests, just the facts makes it in :) Thank you for your reply though :)
I always thought that the omega directive protocol (that is, the one that put the omega on the screens) was a little dangerous. What if the captain was incapacitated and couldn’t undo the lockout? Since omega is so dangerous, detecting it would put your ship in a rather precarious situation - so would you really want your ship locked out in that scenario? Starfleet is often daft (and a little callous with the lives of their officers...!). Great video by the way!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I always assume that for deep exploration vessels all the senior officers are briefed. Lisa Cusak was on an eight year mission in DS9 'The Sound of her Voice' and Picard assumed command of the Stargazer in deep space when the previous captain was killed. ('Tapestry', 'Relics' and 'Final Mission') Remember Voyager was supposed to be on a six week mission from Starbase 375 to recover Tuvok and take the crew of the Val Jean into custardy.
When the captain is incapacitated or otherwise missing or dead, all command protocols are transferred to the senior officer, usually the exec. So if Omega came up he would enter his code and end the system lockdown.
Who was the bright guy who thought, that locking ship systems was a good move? Good thing no one knew of the Omega Directive, it would be used in battle by sending a false reading to the sensors.
Tbh shutting down whole shop like they did in voyager was a stupid move. "mysterious symbol" come on, are you telling me that none of the staff recognised the symbol on it. Also what happens if there's an acting captain or no senior staff due to a war situation etc. It's piss poor writing but the concept is excellent.
And what if they’re in combat at the time? And let’s say the Captain bit the big one? Who’s going to unlock the consoles now? And with all the consoles locked and the ship inoperable, their foe can now blow them out of the sky and capture the Omega particle themselves. Thanks a lot, Starfleet Command! That required a lot of forethought. 🤬 Not. Maybe they should have allowed mission-critical stations on the Bridge (& Engineering) to remain operational, but non-essential systems would be locked out until the Captain (or acting Captain) gives the override password. 000-destruct-0! Oh wait, not that password! 😆
@@trl2151 There is nothing in canon to suggest that if the computer decides your in combat that it doesnt lock down the consoles... That's just an assumption on your part... The episode clearly makes it seem as though it doesnt matter what you're doing, the consoles lock down... And as the original poster stated, that is short sighted... The same effect could have easily been done by flashing the symbol everywhere but not locking down anything... It's not like Starfleet Officers would just ignore the symbol on their screen and carry on like nothings happening...
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios well, yeah, the Omega events on STO are annoying, but I was referring to the Omega particles being used to power the Dyson sphere. Which is kind of weird cause it wasn't detected when the U.S.S. Enterprise - D discovered a Dyson sphere before.
Okay the Omega directive kind of proved Starfleet is kind of stupid, why would you classify this and it's something that can possibly occur naturally so wouldn't you want all the alpha quadrant powers to know , General word of warning do not mess with this stuff
Im sorry you are INCORRECT! The Voyager episodes accident happened on a planet, but a century earlier the Federation Had an accident on a station in the lantaru Sector... Please refer to memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Omega_molecule under history, starfleet records and you'll see, or just watch the Voyager episode again... All information in this video is 100% Accurate!
TriAngulum Audio Studios ok, so I found this: memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Omega_Directive Is the picture contained here the Federation test site or the alien test site? I’d like to know as I intend to use this in a future Star Trek Adventures campaign.
That is a picture of the alien test site... If you watch the episode of Voyager while Janeway is briefing th crew, on the conference room monitor is the Federation Station that had the accident... here is also another link to the disaster... memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Lantaru_sector
TriAngulum Audio Studios ok, I don’t have the episode to watch. Odd the station wasn’t totally destroyed if the sector had a subspace dead zone that large
Not really, since subspace is a layer of space that runs parallel to ours... So the physical explosion would have been different then the explosion in subspace... But the Federation Station DID have a HUGE hole in it!
Your videos are excellent, one of the best Trek channels on youtube.
Thank you so much! That means a LOT! :)
@Pulsar047 I like your Wheatley (Moron) Icon :D
I love these Trek Facts videos! And really liked how you used various footage that aligned with your narrative in telling the backstory of the Omega Directive. Well done!
Thank you very much, I actually LOVE making these :)
The Omega Directive proves that there are some things too dangerous to be explored.
Indeed it does :)
Omega must have scared the hell out of Starfleet if the Omega Directive repeals even the Prime Directive!
Indeed it must have!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Anything that has the potential to destroy all possibility of Warp travel, seemingly permanently, for everyone everywhere, would be the worst thing I could think of for an interstellar civilization. Said civilization would instantly come to an end, as it would take multiple lifetimes to get to places that were previously a few days away. Trillions of colonists on the further out planets would undoubtedly starve to death without the supply shipments they depended on. Everyone would be stranded where they were when the event happened, seperating families forever, etc. It truly is a horrifying outcome.
@@blackhawks81H I completely agree!
This was a great episode. One of the only times we see all the other directives suspended, even the prime directive.
Peace and long life 🖖
Except in EVERY episode for dramatic effect :P
Erm? What about the alien race trying to use it as their "last chance" to survive? A pre-warp civilization that voyager basically doomed, didn't think they might make more when they left OR didn't seem to give a shit about them at all.
Seriously the crew don't even talk about them, that's like aliens appearing and taking away all our nuclear reactors and then leaving.
So no this episode is very bad :p
In the future maybe they could repair subspace fields. That way the use of omega wouldn't be quite as anathema.
Maybe detonating omega particles in a subspace hole recreates subspace?
Or another form of FTL travel.
2:15 gee I'm glad there's no cyborg race in trek that would know of this function and trick a Starfleet ship into locking up :p
Oh WAIT -_-
Man. Your videos are getting better and better and your upload rate has become quite impressive. I love this stuff.
Thank you so much! It's hard to maintain, I think every bit of my free time goes in to them, but for me it's worth it.... The interaction alone with other fans makes it worth while!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I usually binge your videos along with Junkball and Ketwolski. It's fun to see people get so into the details as much as you guys do. Glad it's working out for you and keep up the good work!
Im honored! :) And thanks again, I shall do my best :)
this was the one i was waiting, great job like always, keep up the good work! ;)
Thank you very much, and Ill do my best :)
Mmmm that's good plot device lol great video.
I know right? And thank you :)
As has been mentioned in a few comments below, it's unclear why Section 31 wouldn't use Omega as a precision strike weapon. They could have detonated a few hundred Omega bombs on the Gamma quadrant side of the wormhole to prevent Dominion reinforcements.
Of course DS9 was over before the Omega story was written and aired, but still...
possibly because section 31 isn't 100% evil, they just believe in morally dubious ways of protecting the federation but they do still believe in federation ideals (they just think that the only way to safeguard those ideals is for they themselves to break them--so men like Julian Bashir can sleep at night)... to destroy subspace in the gamma quadrant would've meant there was no future possible for exploration there. perhaps if things became completely hopeless they'd have done it as a last resort, but as long as they believed their biological warfare plan was going to work they didn't need to cut off a whole section of the galaxy to future exploration and peaceful alliances, which they wanted the federation to be able to do with a clean image (hence they take on the dirty work for themselves).
it's also possible they weren't capable of producing it in a proper weaponized way, they'd have had to get a scientist capable of doing so and basically doom that scientist to a suicide mission of producing it in the gamma quadrant. sure they could probably access all the classified info about it since they're so well infiltrated into starfleet, but that doesn't mean they had the capability to produce it, and they might have found it too dangerous to even try. they'd basically have to set up a facility within the gamma quadrant with people willing to either get themselves killed or stranded. I suppose it'd have been possible to find someone willing to do such a suicide mission to save the alpha quadrant but it'd have to be someone not only willing (and without moral qualms about what it means to completely doom an entire quadrant to not have access to space travel) but also having the technical skills and knowledge.
and of course your last out of world explanation is why the possibility wouldn't have even been addressed--omega hadn't been invented as a fictional concept yet hahaha.
Same reason you don't really want to use nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. You could win the battle but then would be left with awful side effects and useless spoils in the future.
Great video!
Thank you :)
Another great video, thank you.
I knew that communications travelled through subspace but I always thought that ships, in standard warp speed, stayed in normal, though warped, space.
Can't understand why Starfleet thought it necessary to keep the Omega Particle secret, and something that important would surely slip out, one way or another. 😁
Well Starfleet loves its regulations... What else would they have to ignore when the time came if they didnt? :P And thank you!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios well, they could always try ignoring the Prime Directive. Oh hang on... they already do! 😂
Exactly! :)
Great video. Thank you
You're welcome! :)
Imagine being in the Gamma Quadrant, fighting a fleet of Jem'Hadar Warships when you detect one of those molecules
That would be a VERY bad day! :P
I'd take a phaser and vaporize myself
The captain better remember his or her code and input them quickly.
love your videos
Thank you SO much :)
these particles accumulate under my furniture. I sweep them away
LOL :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I bet a doomsday machine could contain an Omega explosion. a warp core breach didn't blow it apart
@@frictionRx5 *impulse reactor not a warp core(the constellations warp drive was useless scrap)
this directive 100% shows the TOTAL hypocrisy of starfleet & the prime directive.
In this case I would rather they did interfere
It may be Beta Canon but in Star Trek Online both Klingon and Romulan Captains observed the Omega Directive themselves.
Unfortunately these videos (and the channel generally) do not observe Beta Canon, as Beta Canon is actually not canon at all... It's like being a little bit pregnant... Canon is a matter of fact and as the Title Suggests, just the facts makes it in :) Thank you for your reply though :)
Another home run.
Thank you VERY much :)
I always thought that the omega directive protocol (that is, the one that put the omega on the screens) was a little dangerous. What if the captain was incapacitated and couldn’t undo the lockout? Since omega is so dangerous, detecting it would put your ship in a rather precarious situation - so would you really want your ship locked out in that scenario? Starfleet is often daft (and a little callous with the lives of their officers...!).
Great video by the way!
Oh it's an EXTREMELY short sighted directive on all fronts! And thank you very much! :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I always assume that for deep exploration vessels all the senior officers are briefed. Lisa Cusak was on an eight year mission in DS9 'The Sound of her Voice' and Picard assumed command of the Stargazer in deep space when the previous captain was killed. ('Tapestry', 'Relics' and 'Final Mission')
Remember Voyager was supposed to be on a six week mission from Starbase 375 to recover Tuvok and take the crew of the Val Jean into custardy.
When the captain is incapacitated or otherwise missing or dead, all command protocols are transferred to the senior officer, usually the exec. So if Omega came up he would enter his code and end the system lockdown.
Wish there was more👍
Ending things with a bang, literally
LOL Indeed!
Is that a TOS quadrant or TNG? Lol great videos keep it up mate
Who was the bright guy who thought, that locking ship systems was a good move? Good thing no one knew of the Omega Directive, it would be used in battle by sending a false reading to the sensors.
Yeah it seems rather short sighted tbh!
It's the same Starfleet who puts rocks into consoles and directly sends all the warp power to the bridge, so...
Tbh shutting down whole shop like they did in voyager was a stupid move. "mysterious symbol" come on, are you telling me that none of the staff recognised the symbol on it. Also what happens if there's an acting captain or no senior staff due to a war situation etc. It's piss poor writing but the concept is excellent.
And what if they’re in combat at the time? And let’s say the Captain bit the big one? Who’s going to unlock the consoles now? And with all the consoles locked and the ship inoperable, their foe can now blow them out of the sky and capture the Omega particle themselves. Thanks a lot, Starfleet Command! That required a lot of forethought. 🤬 Not. Maybe they should have allowed mission-critical stations on the Bridge (& Engineering) to remain operational, but non-essential systems would be locked out until the Captain (or acting Captain) gives the override password. 000-destruct-0! Oh wait, not that password! 😆
It IS a rather weird and short sighted directive!
@@trl2151 There is nothing in canon to suggest that if the computer decides your in combat that it doesnt lock down the consoles... That's just an assumption on your part... The episode clearly makes it seem as though it doesnt matter what you're doing, the consoles lock down... And as the original poster stated, that is short sighted... The same effect could have easily been done by flashing the symbol everywhere but not locking down anything... It's not like Starfleet Officers would just ignore the symbol on their screen and carry on like nothings happening...
IM A FUCKING OMEGA PARTICLE
GOOD FOR YOU!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios
THANK YOU!
Didn't even touch the Omega Particles in Star Trek Online.
Yeah that was annoying event :S
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios well, yeah, the Omega events on STO are annoying, but I was referring to the Omega particles being used to power the Dyson sphere. Which is kind of weird cause it wasn't detected when the U.S.S. Enterprise - D discovered a Dyson sphere before.
Talks about one failed experiment and a bunch of doomed scientist, shows another failed experiment and doomed scientist. But that's like in Starfleet!
I can only show what exists...
I wish Discovery would revisit the Omega origins.
It's possible...
I don't remember this at all.
Time to re0view the show ;) :P
Okay the Omega directive kind of proved Starfleet is kind of stupid, why would you classify this and it's something that can possibly occur naturally so wouldn't you want all the alpha quadrant powers to know , General word of warning do not mess with this stuff
It certainly is Short Sighted by Starfleet! But makes for GREAT story telling :P
I’m sorry but I found starfleets response to this entirely hypocritical
LOL how so? :P
TriAngulum Audio Studios suppress all knowledge of something, is never the answer I also commented on your newest video lol
The accident at the secret facility was on a planet not a station. But other than that, a accurate and informative video. Thank You
Im sorry you are INCORRECT! The Voyager episodes accident happened on a planet, but a century earlier the Federation Had an accident on a station in the lantaru Sector... Please refer to memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Omega_molecule under history, starfleet records and you'll see, or just watch the Voyager episode again... All information in this video is 100% Accurate!
TriAngulum Audio Studios ok, so I found this:
memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Omega_Directive
Is the picture contained here the Federation test site or the alien test site?
I’d like to know as I intend to use this in a future Star Trek Adventures campaign.
That is a picture of the alien test site... If you watch the episode of Voyager while Janeway is briefing th crew, on the conference room monitor is the Federation Station that had the accident... here is also another link to the disaster... memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Lantaru_sector
TriAngulum Audio Studios ok, I don’t have the episode to watch. Odd the station wasn’t totally destroyed if the sector had a subspace dead zone that large
Not really, since subspace is a layer of space that runs parallel to ours... So the physical explosion would have been different then the explosion in subspace... But the Federation Station DID have a HUGE hole in it!