I’m making my 3rd trip back to Bandon this summer, just booked flights and I’m stoked. I respect your opinion, once you said you’re a country club guy I knew you were even before I clicked the video. Any country club guy I know that has been doesn’t like it 😂 it’s definitely not for everyone but to me it is a magical place! My favorite place on earth and I’ve played a ton of courses. 1. Both times I have been the staff has been incredibly wonderful. Shoe is the man, and will make your day. 2. Architecture, you cannot expect a course to look the way it does from an aerial view from a drone. I think that’s a big problem with golf content these days, people expect to see it that way but it’s just not reality. If you can’t tell the difference from old max compared to the others I don’t know what to tell ya.. completely different. Hoping you looked in to the design history of old Mac. 3. $450 dollars??? We are going in peak season and we are paying $350 this year. The real value is playing multiple rounds in a day, your second round is half price and your 3rd is free. I did the solstice and was handed a hundred dollar bill after to playing our 4th round of the day. 4. Greens are slow because of the wind they can’t keep seed down but I do agree with you on this one. I’ve been two different times of year and it changes. Trails is always pretty quick. 5. Pace is a problem everywhere, I have never experienced bad pace at Bandon maybe during one round when I played. In fact I’ve played Bandon in 1 hour and 50 minutes. Now this is the first video I’ve watched of yours but to each their own. Hard to compare a dye French lick or sawgrass to any course at Bandon. They are very different. Bandon was not created for the tour, it represents a lot more than competition golf.
Bad bad bad take. Bandon dunes gold resort is a top 10 golf resort in the USA. If people are playing slow, enjoy the beautiful scenery the west coast has to offer.
That's impressive! 80 rounds out here is a dreamers' dream! I get the impression this finance bro didn't even try "Sheeps Farm"... tsktsk... Sheeps Ranch has the most oceanic holes!
I just played them in april. They put gps trackers on one of the players bag in every foursome to ensure they kept up. All of our rounds were in the 4-4.5 hr range. The restaurants are awesome. The rooms are really nice. Go in the fall the weather is way calmer. Going back in October. Sheep ranch is the course for you if you want ocean views.
I see your getting a lot of hate here, but I think your perspective is worth the watch. I go to Scotland once a year and believe it or not you can do it on a budget. Flying into Edinburgh is easy and getting out to the st Andrews area is a breeze. There are so many reasonable ocean side courses there that are spectacular and well under $75 American. Lundin Links, Kilspindie, etc… From the video footage you’ve shown Bandon doesn’t look all that great condition wise…. One of my favorites is Kittocks St Andrews. $90 and it is incredible… Kiwah island is a lot cheaper as well and is also awesome…
Fair perspective. Overall, I do believe it’s great value in the fall period. Slightly lower fees weather awesome weather. I play in Monterey, CA, and the cost there is significantly higher. The one item that does resonate with me is speed of greens. I’m use to 11-12, so 7 feels like snails pace.
I respect your opinions and observations (though I disagree), but on the cost question, it seems like you chose to go foe the absolute most expensive option as a non-resort guest, in peak season, booking more than 3 weeks out (which triggers a premium). You also don't mention that your second round in a day, even at that max peak day guest premium rate, would be 200. As a resort guest the peak price is 330 (165 for second round). I go every year in December, and coming from Portland I obviously don't have airfare. And my price is 110 for a round, and even in December I can fit in 36 holes and get a replay rate of 55. And my room is like $140 a night. So my 2 night 4 round trip before caddy fees and food/drink comes to around $700, which is a steal. I don't disagree entirely that in peak season it might be more than it's worth. But people still flock and pay it anyway (as evidenced by the resort booking out now I to early 2025). I think the golf is great, and the staff are all very friendly, even if the resort isn't the most lush.
Yes my second round was $200 for a replay which I still think is over priced. I was on a coast to coast Rv trip so I wasnt staying at the resort. I actually almost left the money out of the equation when I was doing this video. However, that’s what I paid and I feel they put a target on their back at that price. Wish I felt differently
@@Scaramuzzagolf You're welcome. Despite being a Bandon fan, and I'll admit I went into your video sort of "primed" to disagree strongly. But I do appreciate criticism of the resort, because at the end of the day the huge majority of the Bandon content out there is breathy, hyperbolic praise of Bandon as this "mecca." It's good to have perspectives out there that highlight some of the weak points of the resort, I certainly agree with the points about the greens and pace of play (in part because I very much imagine that pace of play is worse in the summer, when I play in December I think you get more of the "hard core" golfers who are a bit more motivated to keep a decent pace).
Buddy is like "I'm an architecture snob"... then lists the most random assortment of architects. Pretty sure Coore & Crenshaw, Doak and Mcklay Kidd are on the mount rushmore of architects who are still alive. Make it make sense 😂😂
While they’re your opinions, I hope this bad take doesn’t stop people from experiencing Bandon. Seems to have a 1/1000 bad experience. Also the green fees need to take replays into account, where it’s 50% off/ or free. And the complaint about “flying into Portland”? Dude there’s 2 other closer airports.
@@Scaramuzzagolfnope just enjoy golf and Bandon, nothing more. Don’t want your contrarian point of view for views to stop people from experiencing what’s actually great at the course.
Bandon is a dream trip for me but these points you bring up do make me second guess if it would be worth it or not. Would probably rather spend the money on a trip to Scotland if I want to play links golf. Not a fan of ultra slow greens either. Do they at least run pure or are they bumpy?
We play Bandon yearly, usually in January. Current Dec.-Jan. green fee is $110. Weather can be quite good, but greater chance of rain in winter. I find Old Mac and Sheep Ranch fescue greens a bit bumpy. Bandon Dunes and Pac. Dunes are fast and smooth enough. Who really thinks any course is worth a $450 green fee....and didn't you know the price when you made the reservation? On the other hand, as golfers, we might just say "what the hey" and pay it anyhow.
Mainly west coast golfers. Temperatures are pretty moderate on the coast during the winter, but again, a better chance of rain. Worth the risk if not traveling from distant points. We have a package that costs $1300 that includes 4 nights lodging, 5 rounds, 3 dinners, and 4 breakfasts. A long drive for some, but well worth it I think.@@Scaramuzzagolf
people who want to play on amazing golf courses for more reasonable prices. the sheet is full every day of the year, weather permitting. you are literally the only person ive heard say bandon is overrated.@@Scaramuzzagolf
@@Scaramuzzagolf Best public courses are Pronghorn, Widgi Creek, and Tetherow. Meadow Lakes is a hidden gem, best bang for you buck. Private courses are even better.
Let's be real you are just a number to them. You're not special nor am I. If you had a big channel like good good, Peter Finch or rick shiels I'm sure you could've flown the drone
Curious how your experience was at Bandon Dunes? What did you pay and green speed etc…drop a comment
I’m making my 3rd trip back to Bandon this summer, just booked flights and I’m stoked. I respect your opinion, once you said you’re a country club guy I knew you were even before I clicked the video. Any country club guy I know that has been doesn’t like it 😂 it’s definitely not for everyone but to me it is a magical place! My favorite place on earth and I’ve played a ton of courses.
1. Both times I have been the staff has been incredibly wonderful. Shoe is the man, and will make your day.
2. Architecture, you cannot expect a course to look the way it does from an aerial view from a drone. I think that’s a big problem with golf content these days, people expect to see it that way but it’s just not reality. If you can’t tell the difference from old max compared to the others I don’t know what to tell ya.. completely different. Hoping you looked in to the design history of old Mac.
3. $450 dollars??? We are going in peak season and we are paying $350 this year. The real value is playing multiple rounds in a day, your second round is half price and your 3rd is free. I did the solstice and was handed a hundred dollar bill after to playing our 4th round of the day.
4. Greens are slow because of the wind they can’t keep seed down but I do agree with you on this one. I’ve been two different times of year and it changes. Trails is always pretty quick.
5. Pace is a problem everywhere, I have never experienced bad pace at Bandon maybe during one round when I played. In fact I’ve played Bandon in 1 hour and 50 minutes.
Now this is the first video I’ve watched of yours but to each their own. Hard to compare a dye French lick or sawgrass to any course at Bandon. They are very different. Bandon was not created for the tour, it represents a lot more than competition golf.
Yeah definitely some really bad takes here lol
Country club golfers don’t get it. I know many. Especially when they think a course is going to look like a drone shot 😂
Bad bad bad take. Bandon dunes gold resort is a top 10 golf resort in the USA. If people are playing slow, enjoy the beautiful scenery the west coast has to offer.
Soul golf 🙌
I’ve played over 80 rounds at Bandon and it’s never been more than 4.5. In fact, 40 of them have been under 3:30.
That's impressive! 80 rounds out here is a dreamers' dream!
I get the impression this finance bro didn't even try "Sheeps Farm"... tsktsk... Sheeps Ranch has the most oceanic holes!
I’ve found the worst take on golf RUclips 😂
I just played them in april. They put gps trackers on one of the players bag in every foursome to ensure they kept up. All of our rounds were in the 4-4.5 hr range. The restaurants are awesome. The rooms are really nice. Go in the fall the weather is way calmer. Going back in October. Sheep ranch is the course for you if you want ocean views.
Brandon Dunes is the Mecca. Warm and fuzzys? 😂 You were expecting every hole to be on the ocean? Yea, keep your snobbiness at home.
I see your getting a lot of hate here, but I think your perspective is worth the watch. I go to Scotland once a year and believe it or not you can do it on a budget. Flying into Edinburgh is easy and getting out to the st Andrews area is a breeze. There are so many reasonable ocean side courses there that are spectacular and well under $75 American. Lundin Links, Kilspindie, etc… From the video footage you’ve shown Bandon doesn’t look all that great condition wise…. One of my favorites is Kittocks St Andrews. $90 and it is incredible… Kiwah island is a lot cheaper as well and is also awesome…
Fair perspective. Overall, I do believe it’s great value in the fall period. Slightly lower fees weather awesome weather. I play in Monterey, CA, and the cost there is significantly higher.
The one item that does resonate with me is speed of greens. I’m use to 11-12, so 7 feels like snails pace.
Absolutely Monterey is one of my favorite areas…top 3 for me
Man, talk about unpopular opinions… I couldn’t feel more different about my Bardon experience. Best golf destination on Earth!
I respect your opinions and observations (though I disagree), but on the cost question, it seems like you chose to go foe the absolute most expensive option as a non-resort guest, in peak season, booking more than 3 weeks out (which triggers a premium). You also don't mention that your second round in a day, even at that max peak day guest premium rate, would be 200. As a resort guest the peak price is 330 (165 for second round). I go every year in December, and coming from Portland I obviously don't have airfare. And my price is 110 for a round, and even in December I can fit in 36 holes and get a replay rate of 55. And my room is like $140 a night. So my 2 night 4 round trip before caddy fees and food/drink comes to around $700, which is a steal. I don't disagree entirely that in peak season it might be more than it's worth. But people still flock and pay it anyway (as evidenced by the resort booking out now I to early 2025). I think the golf is great, and the staff are all very friendly, even if the resort isn't the most lush.
Yes my second round was $200 for a replay which I still think is over priced. I was on a coast to coast Rv trip so I wasnt staying at the resort.
I actually almost left the money out of the equation when I was doing this video. However, that’s what I paid and I feel they put a target on their back at that price. Wish I felt differently
Appreciate the comment and perspective
@@Scaramuzzagolf You're welcome. Despite being a Bandon fan, and I'll admit I went into your video sort of "primed" to disagree strongly. But I do appreciate criticism of the resort, because at the end of the day the huge majority of the Bandon content out there is breathy, hyperbolic praise of Bandon as this "mecca." It's good to have perspectives out there that highlight some of the weak points of the resort, I certainly agree with the points about the greens and pace of play (in part because I very much imagine that pace of play is worse in the summer, when I play in December I think you get more of the "hard core" golfers who are a bit more motivated to keep a decent pace).
@@joshuaolmsted2865 it was hard to criticize because I wanted to love it who much. It just let me down. Wish it didn’t
Buddy is like "I'm an architecture snob"... then lists the most random assortment of architects. Pretty sure Coore & Crenshaw, Doak and Mcklay Kidd are on the mount rushmore of architects who are still alive. Make it make sense 😂😂
It is a bit funny that you rage against the idea of putting from off the green, then show how you almost made par on 18 by putting from off the green.
I golfed it 3 years ago...it was $260....450 now!? Good points...I had a great time!
Yup when you have that $450 price tag you put a target on your back. You better be outstanding.
It’s $450 because you didn’t stay at the resort and booked within 3 weeks.
While they’re your opinions, I hope this bad take doesn’t stop people from experiencing Bandon. Seems to have a 1/1000 bad experience.
Also the green fees need to take replays into account, where it’s 50% off/ or free.
And the complaint about “flying into Portland”? Dude there’s 2 other closer airports.
You hope this bad take doesn’t stop people…do you own stock in the bandon dunes?
@@Scaramuzzagolfnope just enjoy golf and Bandon, nothing more. Don’t want your contrarian point of view for views to stop people from experiencing what’s actually great at the course.
@@ryanhartlee glad you enjoy it man
LOL. You're a total squid
It sounds like a lot of the problem is poor customer service. I think that could be fixed by installing excellent management.
I was expecting 4 seasons customer service and I got Vegas hotel vibes
Pace of play is an issue everywhere.
Bandon is a dream trip for me but these points you bring up do make me second guess if it would be worth it or not. Would probably rather spend the money on a trip to Scotland if I want to play links golf. Not a fan of ultra slow greens either. Do they at least run pure or are they bumpy?
100% Scotland
Would play Bandon once a year if it was an hour drive and cost $150. Prolly not cuz couldnt get on.
Your assessment is fair. I've skipped trips there simply due to the cost.
I agree…it’s fair
Agree with the Banbon DUNES COMMENTS
thanks bro. i was thinking about going out there but now you have me reconsidering that decision.
Unless you're very unconcerned with Money, Bandon is a Winter Golf destination. In that category, it is unbeatable.
$350 USD July and Sep in 2023
Bandon Dunes is not overrated.
Agree 100%
We play Bandon yearly, usually in January. Current Dec.-Jan. green fee is $110. Weather can be quite good, but greater chance of rain in winter. I find Old Mac and Sheep Ranch fescue greens a bit bumpy. Bandon Dunes and Pac. Dunes are fast and smooth enough. Who really thinks any course is worth a $450 green fee....and didn't you know the price when you made the reservation? On the other hand, as golfers, we might just say "what the hey" and pay it anyhow.
Who goes to Oregon in January?
Mainly west coast golfers. Temperatures are pretty moderate on the coast during the winter, but again, a better chance of rain. Worth the risk if not traveling from distant points. We have a package that costs $1300 that includes 4 nights lodging, 5 rounds, 3 dinners, and 4 breakfasts. A long drive for some, but well worth it I think.@@Scaramuzzagolf
people who want to play on amazing golf courses for more reasonable prices. the sheet is full every day of the year, weather permitting. you are literally the only person ive heard say bandon is overrated.@@Scaramuzzagolf
@@drewbernhard2057 not my cup of tee. I’m in Miami golfing in January
Ban Diego is a secret 🤫
If you didn’t play golf in Bend you really messed up! Some really nice courses in the area
I played Aspen lakes which was good. What do you recommend?
@@Scaramuzzagolf Best public courses are Pronghorn, Widgi Creek, and Tetherow. Meadow Lakes is a hidden gem, best bang for you buck. Private courses are even better.
@@thomasg6214 nice! Can you make a few private course recommendations?
@@thomasg6214 heard great things about pronghorn
@@Scaramuzzagolf Bend Golf Club, Pronghorn (Fazio course), Brasada, Broken Top, Awbrey Glen 🤙
glad i didnt have your experience when i went.
Let's be real you are just a number to them. You're not special nor am I. If you had a big channel like good good, Peter Finch or rick shiels I'm sure you could've flown the drone
If you live on the east coast you should be going to Scotland.
I agree
Thanks for the rundown, I won’t waste my money!!
Save it for our match
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