Building a high-end 1995/1996 Socket 7 Gaming PC!

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  • @sandplasma
    @sandplasma 2 года назад +2

    This is the only video that explained the lack of the interface. I have one of these and couldn't figure out how to plug in a mouse. Great video!

  • @mikeall7012
    @mikeall7012 Год назад +1

    I grew up in the 80s/90s and it is still crazy for me to think back at the lightning fast speed of progression/obsolescence.
    Pentiums were fadding but still widely used when i started HS in 1998. I got a P2 at home in 99'. By my senior year P3s were the prominent cpu in my HS labs, with Athlon XP 2100 being my cpu choice for my college PC, freshman year.
    These days you can have a computer for 10+ years and barely notice any limitations, outside gaming, CAD and video editing.

  • @mstover2809
    @mstover2809 Год назад +1

    Awesome video, thanks.
    Brings back memories from when I was first starting to work in a small computer store.

  • @shadvan9494
    @shadvan9494 Год назад +3

    The first PC i built for my self was a cheap Amptron with an intel 430FX chipset and a P133. built a new one about a year later, it was my personal favorite board PC it was the Intel Triton AN430TX with a Pentium MMX 233. I had to buy a whole new chassis because the new board was an ATX. I had a S3 video card. 32MB ram and WD 1.6GB hdd. running win95 OSR2 and a 56K modem. it was also the first time i got to go to comdex with the company i was working for. that was a hell of a good year. I played the hell out of MechWarriror 2 on that machine.

    • @colinellett
      @colinellett Год назад

      That's the exact board and processor I'm currently using for my Windows 98 + DOS build, it's called Anchorage. Turn off the level 2 cache and downclock to 120mhz and you have a great 386 machine 🙂

  • @OCROldComputerRebuilds
    @OCROldComputerRebuilds 3 года назад +5

    I'm glad to see you in the build. love the board choice, kudos for getting 3dmark running on this system. Again huge thank you for joining in. 👍

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад +1

      Thanks so much, Patrick! It was challenging at times but so worth it in the end. Looking forward to doing more of these buildoff videos 👍

  • @jikissgamer
    @jikissgamer 3 года назад +6

    Really enjoyed the video Mike! I love how Doom and Heretic sound on your system here. Socket 7 is one of my favorite platforms for late DOS games.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Rami! I really love the MIDI in Heretic. It has a really awesome soundtrack. I plan to put together a retro PC that will be used every day for retro gaming (I have incomplete builds and parts all over the place). Still trying to decide between a faster 486 and a Pentium.

    • @jikissgamer
      @jikissgamer 3 года назад

      @@vswitchzero Yeah it has such a great soundtrack, one of my favorites for sure! And that's a good idea a fast 486 or a Pentium would be great for covering all of the early to mid 90s games.

  • @Marcel-Saal
    @Marcel-Saal 2 года назад +2

    jeps, the Matrox Millenium II is really awesome, i just can confirm of what you are saying, brilliant card...

  • @jonchapman6821
    @jonchapman6821 2 года назад +5

    Oh wow, I haven’t even thought about Turok in years!

  • @TechAmbr
    @TechAmbr 3 года назад +6

    Nice build! I love the old Intel chipsets... not too sophisticated, but rock-solid reliable (as long as you replace the Dallas!)
    Great game selection, too! Turok was such a classic.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад

      Thanks! Yeah,Turok was such a cool game at the time. I recently picked up the remastered version on GOG and had a lot of fun with it too. Intel's pentium chipsets were very reliable, that's for sure. I have two more boards requiring Dallas RTC replacements in the repair queue. Will be time to practice my desoldering skills soon.

  • @OzzFan1000
    @OzzFan1000 2 года назад +3

    Very nice build. I'm glad to see that, rather than going with the fastest and best, you chose to go with the earliest and detail what that experience was like. Those early Pentiums were great for late DOS gaming and early Win9x gaming. And I really like that you were able to get the clock display working correctly. I usually give up in frustration. lol Thanks for sharing!

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much for your comment! Haha yeah, those multi-segment displays can be a royal pain to configure. I did one a while back without documentation and it literally took me over an hour of trial and error to figure out.

  • @UncleMikeRetro
    @UncleMikeRetro 3 года назад +4

    My only FX chipset board has a Socket 5 on it. I am jealous that you get to claim a better board! Man! This video is smoking sweet! You really sent this one into orbit!
    I think I played the Diablo Demo about a hundred times until the full game came out back then!
    I could not wait until the HD finished processing. Too impatient.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад +2

      Thanks so much for the feedback and kind words, Mike! I appreciate it! Doing these videos has been teaching me a lot about video editing, vga capture, audio etc. Diablo was an awesome game. I put many hours into it back in the day. I got really hooked on Diablo II though 😀

    • @UncleMikeRetro
      @UncleMikeRetro 3 года назад +1

      @@vswitchzero I still play Diablo 2 every ow and then. My current Necromancer is pretty cool IMHO! Also, you deserve the praise. Really impressive video!

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад +1

      @@UncleMikeRetro Nice! Diablo 2 is really awesome. I keep meaning to look into the remaster that came out recently. I put in so many hours on Battle Net back in the day, gambling for SoJs and trying to get all the best unique gear :)

    • @TheVanillatech
      @TheVanillatech Год назад

      I got a PC Zone on the way home from the computer shop the day I picked up my Pentium 100. It had the Diablo demo on the cover CD. Had no idea what the game was about. Spent the next three days playing it all night after school.
      There was a full game on there also called "Firefight". Nothing special now, but back then, it was amazing. Sort of like an updated version of Jungle Strike.

  • @marcelocorpucci1742
    @marcelocorpucci1742 2 года назад +3

    Awesome video man, thank you so much for sharing such a great content with us! I'm really happy to see a lot of new channels about retro computing. I think the bigger ones lost in some way the essence they got at the beginning. So finding newer channels like this one is great! Cheers from Argentina!

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад +1

      Thanks so much Marcelo! I really appreciate the kind words and encouragement. I really enjoy doing these builds and videos. More to come soon! 😁

  • @BrassicGamer
    @BrassicGamer 3 года назад +3

    I really like the progression you've made in the format of this video compared to the last one. I also like that our two systems are very similar and yet somewhat different, and illustrate the longevity of the platform. It's pretty funny that we both used the word 'beefy' to describe the VRM heatsink, too. Great technical details, an awesome case, and an authentic gaming trip back in time.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад +2

      Thanks so much! Really appreciate the kind words. Aside from the fun retro side of things, these buildoffs have been teaching me a lot about video creation, editing, video capture etc. Has been a great experience. Just saw your video and thought the same thing! I almost used a 430VX board and a Pentium 166 MMX if it wasn't for the dead soldered RTC on it. I was too stuborn to use Windows 98 on mine, but it certainly would have made it easier :)

    • @BrassicGamer
      @BrassicGamer 3 года назад +1

      @@vswitchzero yeah I agree about the learning process. I think I have a lot to learn still about watchability, and I have some catching up to do with gear and setup, but we all have to start somewhere!

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal 6 месяцев назад

    I love this kind of mid 90s videos

  • @Xaltar_
    @Xaltar_ 2 года назад +1

    Soundfonts are so much fun to play with, particularly in these older titles with their MIDI soundtracks. It was a great way to keep installation sizes down when everything still had to fit on floppy disks. I remember how excited I was when the family PC got upgraded to a Pentium 120, not for the Pentium but for the 486 DX4 100 that I inherited for my own personal system which was running a 486 SX25 at the time, DOOM could be played full screen at last. A math coprocessor made it "play" but it was a slideshow unless the window size was about as big as a postage stamp. Still, the SX25 was a huge step up from my 8088 I had before it :)

  • @stevec00ps
    @stevec00ps 3 года назад +4

    Nice video! Love the choice of cards (even the modem being a USRobotics). For a little P133, I'd have been proud to have owned that back in the day for sure!

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад

      Thanks, Steve! I’m looking forward to getting the modem connected up. Will have to do that in another video one day 🙂

  • @DSOImager
    @DSOImager 3 года назад +3

    Computers were so much cooler back then :)
    My first build was in 1995 with a socket 7. I dropped in an AMD K5 75mhz in that system.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  3 года назад +1

      Agreed! I really don't get excited about new hardware the way I did back then. The K5 CPUs were awesome CPUs and had a really promising architecture at the time. I've been keeping an eye on eBay to pick one up.

    • @BrassicGamer
      @BrassicGamer 3 года назад +2

      I very nearly did a K5/75 system!

    • @DSOImager
      @DSOImager 3 года назад

      @@vswitchzero ​ @Brassic Gamer Money was tight back then.. that k5 set me back just $30 new! I later upgraded to a k5 150mhz I picked up off of ebay. Apparently the k5 150 was a special run for a specific brand... AST IIRC. The video cards on that system went from a trident svga to a diamond stealth.. and then finally an add in voodoo.
      Trying to remember the games I played back then.. I think it was mostly xwing vs tie fighter, warcraft 2?, starcraft... At some point I started playing everquest.. but I think I was running a k6 or a slot1 intel with a voodoo2 by then. I played a lot of unreal too... that game i think was what pushed me into that voodoo2.. way more money than I had business spending back then! Don't even get me going about that diamond isdn modem I picked up... just to be a low ping bastard, lol. Yea.. memories.. :)

  • @ppdan
    @ppdan 2 года назад +1

    Ah those good old days. After my 486DX2-66 I build a complete new system using a 686-PR150+ and as graphics card I had a Matrox Mystique.
    Back than I didn't play games, except for a little "X-COM : Terror from the deep". I used my computer for programming and school.
    A friend from school needed a new PC so I build him one using my CPU (he got that for a special price) and upgraded mine to a 686-PR200+
    My next upgrade was a CD Burner and since all burners where SCSI devices I bought a decent SCSI controller and SCSI harddrive (started with 1TB).
    Now with the 686-PR200+ being one of the rare CPUs having a 75MHz FSB back than and a 7200rpm SCSI drive ... that machine was really super fast.
    Since I am the kind that gradually upgrades his PC all those parts should still sit somewhere in a box.

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood 2 года назад +2

    Nice build you have there! I'm surprised to hear of 300W AT power supplies existing & you using one in your rig!

  • @RachaelSA
    @RachaelSA Год назад +1

    I used to have a very similar machine, the same case with a P133, 32mb ram, 4x 800mb drives, with a 3c509, 2x AWE32's and 1x AWE64 Gold and a yamaha OPL and a 4mb Matrox. It was before directX and i would plug korg and roland midi synths into my PC and tape decks and record players and write software to link it all together like a mixing desk and record it.

  • @ShrineOfLife
    @ShrineOfLife Год назад

    nice! for me too, thank you for that awesome video!!

  • @TheNorwegian
    @TheNorwegian 2 года назад +1

    I actually had the minitower version of that case on my P100 in 1995ish

  • @andiarrohnds5163
    @andiarrohnds5163 2 года назад

    AWESOME BRO

  • @freeman2399
    @freeman2399 Год назад +1

    I love these retro builds.14:50 What is that little Power Supply called?

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  Год назад

      It seems they go by many different names on Amazon, but I believe it is an "Adjustable Buck Converter". You can feed it DC voltage within a specific range using a AC-DC power brick, and it can output pretty much any voltage below the input level. There are quite a few available on Amazon for anywhere between $15 and $30 or so. Thanks for watching!

  • @RandomBSOD
    @RandomBSOD 2 года назад +1

    There's so many channels out there showcasing these types of builds but the work on them is just sloppy. I really like your attention to detail and "proper" build techniques.
    Subbed 👍

  • @andrasszabo7386
    @andrasszabo7386 2 года назад +1

    My best music of the dos era is Monkey Island 1's startup music.

  • @rallyscoot
    @rallyscoot 2 года назад +2

    Did your motherboard have a turbo switch header? Iam guessing the turbo pressed on low doesnt do anything?

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад

      Thanks for your comment! Yeah, the vast majority of Pentium boards either don't have one or they don't do anything at all. I don't have it nearby, but I'm pretty sure this 430VX board doesn't have a turbo header on it. My slightly older 430FX board did, but it doesn't do anything at all. Some manufacturers used the header for "green" features - suspend etc. The only Pentium board I have that reacts properly to the turbo button being pressed is an old Pentium 60 system. It behaves just like a 486 would with it pressed (about 80% decrease in CPU integer performance).

  • @airsoftmodels
    @airsoftmodels 2 года назад +1

    since there are currently 166 upvotes on this video, i am hesitant to make it 167. 166Mhz!

  • @mateuszkwietowicz2470
    @mateuszkwietowicz2470 2 года назад +1

    When I got Diablo, I had a 486 DX2 66 MHz and the experience is still lodged in my memory (the game had a minimum Pentium 60 requirement) - the character would walk really slow - actually walking, because the "normal" speed is quite fast. It made for a slower, but more "realistic" and thus more scary and fun to play in my opinion. When my friend showed me his pentium 120 mhz gameplay - I was happy for my 486, because it was consistently slow, while his would have these moments of "loading" - when the game would freeze, and then load up some data and the charecter would go zooom super fast forward for a second or two - this could get you killed in the game. The only thing bad, is that the levels would take 1-3 minutes to load. But I still loved every minute of this game. It still ranks as my most beloved game of all time.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад

      Diablo is such an awesome classic. I really need to do a full playthrough again one of these days. I played it on my Pentium 100, and even that system took a long time to load levels from what I remember. Would be interesting to see it run on a 486!

  • @NielsHeusinkveld
    @NielsHeusinkveld Год назад +1

    It sounds a little odd, as if the channels are out of phase? Or was that a Soundblaster 'trick' they did back in the day?

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  Год назад

      I haven't gone back to watch this video for a long time, but I think you are right. Something doesn't sound quite right. I've made some improvements to my capture and recording setup, so its quite possible it may have been something on that side of things. I'll have to try out the SB32 again sometime soon.

  • @fcxs
    @fcxs Месяц назад

    Gorgeous machine. I want to build a similar machine. How do you recommend acquiring all the parts? Ebay?

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal 4 месяца назад

    Pc case is like 486 era with turbo 1993/1994 - matrox and 3dfx is mainly from 1997. I'd rebuild this system a bit with 166mmx to give vga cards more room to show what the can offer to early 3d pc gamer

  • @Caleb-fv5fp
    @Caleb-fv5fp 2 года назад +2

    Does it matter what model number of the Dallas clock chip you use? I’m replacing a oden clock chip in my motherboard

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад +1

      Is it the ODIN OEC12C887? If so, the DS12887 should work just fine. For the most part, the DS12887 is a suitable replacement for a wide range of RTC modules (Dallas 1287(usually)/12887/12B887, Benchmarq BQ3287 and ODIN OEC12C887).

    • @Caleb-fv5fp
      @Caleb-fv5fp 2 года назад +1

      @@vswitchzero thanks! Btw I just realized I wasn’t subscribed to you some how, I love your videos can’t wait for your next video!

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад +1

      @@Caleb-fv5fp Thanks so much! I really appreciate the feedback 🙂

  • @robc2002
    @robc2002 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, what power supply are you using for testing the Mhz display? That is awesome!

  • @joesaiditstrue
    @joesaiditstrue Год назад +1

    oh man, i remember playing turok so much on n64, i'd use the cheats and just spawn that nuke launcher, so fun

  • @andrasszabo7386
    @andrasszabo7386 2 года назад +1

    I have just bought 2 green Siemens Nixdorf Mobile 700 laptops with 120 MHz Socket 7 Intel Pentium CPUs inside. I have already upgraded the working one to 166 MHz by replacing the Socket 7 CPU and setting the jumpers correctly. I wonder if overclocking these laptops can be done with just setting the jumpers. They both have proper cooling so the CPUs didn't overheat yet.

  • @OldSkoolF
    @OldSkoolF Год назад +1

    Mike would you ever consider using a Quantum 5.25 Bigfoot? Those were cool old drives that used to gyroscopically stabilize the whole pc.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  Год назад

      Haha yeah those drives were monsters! I have never used one before. I’ve heard they are really unreliable and that it’s hard to find working ones out there these days. Will have to keep an eye out for one. Thanks for the comment! 👍

  • @DarkZenith
    @DarkZenith 2 года назад +1

    Matrix millennium didn’t have any 3d really, it was a heavy 2d accelerator for windows. I had one of these for years with the expansion memory that I purchased new at the time and loved it.
    I also had a retail awe 32 that I populated with max expansion audio and also the same 3com nic.
    Good choices all around.
    Should consider going with a scsi setup with a cdrom and hdd.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад

      Thanks! I'd definitely like to do a full SCSI build one of these days.

  • @clintthompson4100
    @clintthompson4100 2 года назад +2

    I have a board that's similar to this it is made by PC chips or ECS and it also requires that vrm in order to do the split voltage CPUs does anybody know where I can buy one of those voltage regulators because it plugs in the same way as it does on that motherboard.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад

      Thanks for your comment! They are really hard to find and I don't think I've ever seen one for sale before. I believe the pin-out for these VRMs is standardized based on Intel's specifications, so it is possible to construct one. Necroware created one, but not sure if he released the files for it yet. You can find his video here: ruclips.net/video/CMiGVQbMC5U/видео.html

  • @spavatch
    @spavatch 2 года назад +1

    What’s the black socket on the Matrox card for?

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад +1

      It’s a DB-26 for connecting the card to their rainbow-runner add on cards. I believe they were used for video acceleration, capture etc. I’ve never seen one used before.

  • @TotemoGaijin
    @TotemoGaijin Год назад +1

    Oh, this one actually has the cpu on the motherboard, huh? Mine was weird in that what we'd actually call the motherboard (cpu, ram, etc.) was some kind of...pci card maybe? It used a long black slot, followed by a shorter white slot.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  Год назад +1

      Thanks for your comment! You see that type of setup used commonly in industrial systems but it was also done by consumer OEMs in the mid-90s as well. There were also “riser” boards used to add PCI/ISA slots horizontally in some cases back then too. It made the system proprietary, unfortunately so upgrade options were very limited.

  • @Caleb-fv5fp
    @Caleb-fv5fp 2 года назад +1

    Was there a lower texture rez mode for turok? I swear the textures looked better then that

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад +1

      Interesting! I think you are right. It's probably because I was playing the demo version in this video. If you compare it to the retail CD version footage I had in the GPUJune2 video (ruclips.net/video/FgFtNNl2gYQ/видео.html) they look a lot better. I assume they just did that to keep the demo as small as possible.

  • @Kvopper
    @Kvopper 2 месяца назад

    Athena power PSUs are gutless wonders

  • @Steve25g
    @Steve25g 2 года назад +1

    they were not bad, like my k6-II in the super seven way more

  • @Pingviinitube
    @Pingviinitube 9 месяцев назад

    I have 23 year old and I watch this video.

  • @grzegorzsoowiejko7656
    @grzegorzsoowiejko7656 2 года назад +1

    Diablo required pentium but run on 486 too

  • @Paar86
    @Paar86 2 года назад +2

    SB32 is quite noisy... As are almost all other SB cards. Nice build nonetheless.

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад

      Thanks! Yes, that’s very true - the SB32 is especially bad for noise. My CT2230 SB16 isn’t great in that regard either. I have a CT2800 that’s a lot better. My favourite ISA sound cards are not creative models, though 🙂

    • @Paar86
      @Paar86 2 года назад +1

      @@vswitchzero People still love Sound Blasters because they are an important part of history, even though the cards (mainly ISA) are mediocre and plagued with bugs. I have enjoyed your selection of Mediavision card for your 486 build as that piece of HW screams quality and good engineering. There are a lot of better ISA cards than Sound Blasters, my favourites being cards based on ESS chip.

  • @crusader2.0_loading89
    @crusader2.0_loading89 Год назад +1

    use ontrack disk manager and then you can access the rest of your drive

  • @custm42435
    @custm42435 6 месяцев назад

    Why does the 5 1/4 drive look upside down? did you put it in upside down? LOL

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  4 месяца назад

      Haha yeah it almost looks that way, it’s a different style drive. Don’t have the model number handy but I really like that one 🙂

  • @pascalmariany
    @pascalmariany 2 года назад +1

    I don’t think NFS SE ran in glide mode…

    • @vswitchzero
      @vswitchzero  2 года назад

      I don't think the original NFS (or NFS SE) had options for 3D acceleration, but if I'm not mistaken, NFS II SE supported glide. I'd have to double check though.

  • @boardernut
    @boardernut Год назад

    Everything except the SB 32, there are so many much better options. In my opinion.

  • @PROSTO4Tabal
    @PROSTO4Tabal 2 года назад

    There's actually Diamond Monster3D 1996 PCB versions along with Orchid Righteous 3D, but boo now your setup isn't 95/96

  • @retrogamestudios6688
    @retrogamestudios6688 2 года назад +1

    Come on the rams already in....so much for asmr