I love how the MCU is so divided into different arcs now (Cosmic, Multiverse, Street, Supernatural and etc.), I’m so curious in how they’re gonna team up together in Kang Dynasty/Secret Wars, it’ll be a hell of a battle! Amazing work. That helps to keep track with all the (spread) heroes
Yes, great point. This video really made me realize how the different segments of the MCU are all in their own little areas, but will somehow all come together for the mega team-up. Should be amazing!
@@larryfoulkeofficial8609 I suspect it's hard to judge the execution at this point, due to Phase 4 being such a setup phase. Hopefully we will really see the different arcs take shape as we move into Phase 5 and beyond.
@@AbitofEverything4U it being a set up phase is the problem. It's just a excuse for marvel to throw anything at a wall to see what sticks. Would've been better if the stories were self contained
@@larryfoulkeofficial8609 Perhaps. I guess for me, it was nice to see so many building blocks being laid out on the table. I think that it's hard to judge Phase 4 at this point, as we don't know where everything will lead. I completely agree that if things don't pay off and tie together in Phase 5 and 6, then Phase 4 will end up being abit pointless. But I suspect Feige will continue to surprise us with how much the story does come together. But only time will tell.
Assuming Kate wasn’t completely kicked out of school for destroying the bell tower, she finished her last semester of college around April of 2025, and did not want to work for Bishop Security, but there’s a chance she’s taken on a role temporarily at her mother’s request, but as soon as she gets called back to superhero stuff she’ll leave it immediately and never go back.
Yes, his story is really up in the air right now. Could go so many different ways. I am hearing he is in armor wars as well as wonder man, so those are going to be two very intriguing appearances!
Awesome video. I love these "State of MCU" videos. I feel like some of the sequel movies and TV shows like Eternals 2 and Moon Knight S2 will come out before Kang Dynasty like you said, it's just that Marvel hadn't announced them yet because their first movies/seasons had just come out or hadn't even come out when they revealed Phase 5
Yes, completely agree with you that several titles haven't been announced yet, especially for Phase 6 and that will let us catch up with lots of the newer heroes and what they have been up to. So glad you liked the video. The State of Villainy is next and it was such a major update from beginning to end. Hope you like it!
On Reddit there was a fan pitch for a Shang-Chi sequel called The Wreckage of Time in between KD and SW which entailed Shang-Chi, Moonknight and Ms. Marvel going back in time to Ancient Eygpt to learn about the 10 rings and the bangles as artefacts left by a Ramatut Kang variant. Far fetched especially as the director is busy and it's also a lot but 100% perfect movie if it ever happened as all characters involved are S tier imo
I heard rumors about that, too. Would love if it is true as it would be a fantastic plot. Hopefully we will get the Phase 6 slate soon and then we'll know for sure. Thanks for watching and sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
I wondered about that, but Kingo could have filmed it already as they are filmed an then have quite awhile before editing, post production, etc. Or to your point, Eternals 2 may occur before 2025 ends. It could be that Eternals 2 directly follows Eternals 1, so in that case you are definitely correct that whatever happens in Eternals 2 has happened well before 2025 closes out. Great comments!
It's truly amazing. And there will be more new ones in Phase 5. Probably not at that pace, I hope, but still. Marvel definitely has a very large bench!
What i really think is cool, is the amount of heroes on the west coast, which of course could potentially lead into a West Coast Avengers project (this, and with Wonder Man showing up soon). A team that i’ve been dying to see in live action :,)
Yes! My first iteration of the State of Heroism was focused on who might join the Avengers and I was really excited about the prospect of a West Coast Avengers team. I agree, would be fantastic to see that finally happen!
@@AbitofEverything4U it's gonna be epic, you know everyone is giving phase 4 a hard time and while there are some eh and meh moments I really think phase 5 and 6 is gonna be what folks have been waiting for
Hi! I just wanted to say that I loved this video! There are a couple things I wanted to clarify that were found in the video. 1) you put Yelena and Red Guardian as introduced before phase 4, but Black Widow was the First Phase 4 movie, so I was a little confused by that. 2) another thing, and this one is really sad, Chris Hemsworth said he’d take a break from acting because he found out that he has a gene that makes him more susceptible to Alzheimer’s. So, I don’t know when (or even if) we’ll see Thor again.
Thanks so much for the positive feedback. I really appreciate it! And thanks for watching the video, too! Regarding Yelena/Red Guardian, I think I forgot to say in the video that for prequels (Captain America, Captain Marvel and Black Widow) I put them in the order they would have appeared chronologically. But everything else is in release order. That's why Captain Marvel is first in the group shot. Sorry that I forgot to mention that. I did that on my state of villainy video as well. The prequels just work better if they are located correctly in the chronology, especially in the state of villainy. Regarding Helmsworth, I think he was just saying he has the gene, but that it may not affect him at all or it may affect him in 20 yrs, but that it won't necessarily stop him from going on living life to the fullest. So I do hope we see him again as Thor. And of course I hope that the gene is only an indicator but doesn't result in the disease. Alzheimer's Disease is such a terrible thing to happen to someone. Truly wishing him the best!
I love all the new heroes introduced in Phase 4!! My favorites have to be Kamala, Druig, and Moon Knight (Both Steven and Marc!) Who have been your favorite new additions?
Now that's an interesting idea for a Phase 4 close-out video. Ranking my favorite new heros. Hmmmm... Okay, I would have to go with Kate Bishop, Shang Chi, and Moon Knight. Daredevil gets an asterisk since he technically already was introduced. I do love Druig, though. He powers are really fun to watch. And Kamala was also great and I can't wait to see her again in The Marvels.
I am so confused on the Netflix canon status. I know they were all canon when they were first released. But Marvel is playing coy with us now. Perhaps when Echo comes out we will get a 100% definitive answer. Or at least when Born Again comes out. But yes, I will definitely incorporate the Netflix shows once Marvel reveals their hand. I'm hoping most (if not all) of the shows stay canon.
@@AbitofEverything4U I would say unless Marvel says otherwise they can be considered canon. Both Kingpin and Daredevil seem to be the exact same characters from the show aside from a minor strength and durability buff for Kingpin.
@@CobraShadowz I definitely consider them canon until Marvel says they aren't and/or contradicts them. But I'm also skeptical that Marvel will bring them in as is. My gut tells me that they don't bring back Iron Fist. Shang Chi is their martial arts guy and I suspect they don't want two of them. In that case, Defenders would be jettisoned and that impacts DD S3. I also heard they were at least considering an Elektra recast, but then seemed to back away from it. So to your point, they haven't done anything so far to contradict the Netflix shows, but I am just waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop. Hope I'm just being paranoid. I personally loved the Netflix shows. Incredible stories and great casting!
That's a cool idea. As with any ranking it would have subjectivity to it, but there may be ways to try to do it as objectively as possible. I'll put some thought to that. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@collizlemynizl Yeah, it might have to just focus on the top X number of characters, in other worse the super smart characters, or you are right that it would be absolutely massive.
Yay! Love these videos of yours. Today I have rather unrelated topic to discuss, but the one that bugged me for some time. Do superhero themed shows and movies absolutely have to have a villain? I noticed that you sometimes pitch characters to appear in future MCU titles as villains opposing the main characters, like it's an absolute must. But sometimes I feel like villains noticeably smudge the overall feel of the story. For example - WandaVision. I didn't expect there to be a "villain", I just saw two sides of the conflict - selfish and destructive Wanda and SWORD trying to stop her, doing what had to be done. I felt like it was natural for Wanda to be both the hero and the villain of this story and her path to awareness and overcoming her grief to be the focus of it. And it actually played out pretty similar, but this whole thing of "Agatha all along" kind of pulled the main focus away. It suddenly appeared to be yet another "good vs bad" scenario, which was extremely displaced there. Agatha should not have been the opposing force, and the show, IMO, should not have had a "villain". I don't like the word "hero" and the word "villain", because both of them severely oversimplfy the reality. You do not become a hero for battling someone else, and I feel like it's often forgotten. Sometimes the battle is set within you and sometimes the battle must be fought against the world itself. Helping those in need, improving your surroundings. And MCU heroes very seldom make a move without someone else challenging them. This is the part why I love Daredevil, for example. He has a clear villain - Kingpin, but the struggle Matt is going through is not about him. It's about making the city a better place. And it so happens that Kingpin is sought after the same thing. They are two players on a board, not the board itself. Another example is Black Widow. Imagine how sweet it would be if the movie focused on Natasha's family and their personal problems more than on yet another big baddy? It's not even fundamentally wrong approach, it's just boring. Dreykov being defeated does not prove anything, it does not bring more to the character, it's just a spectacle. And who would go to the Black Widow movie, a presumably spy-ish movie, to look at a floating city fall from the skies? Superhero movie or not, the hero must not constantly be super.
Wow, really deep comments. I think in some regards I will touch on that during my updated State of Villainy video, but I do think that people like to see a villain as it contrasts the hero and pushes them to decide what really motivates them and why they are doing what they are doing and challenges their values. The best villains are the ones you almost side with, whether it is Zemo, Thanos, Killmonger, etc. But I do understand your point that we don't always need a villain. As long as the hero is challenged in some way that stretches them and makes them grow, then we don't need a moustache twirling bad guy. Great comments. Maybe we will see more shows and movies that don't have a true villain. But I do suspect that Marvel will stick to that formula, but find ways to keep making it creative. However, you raise some great points and I'll give it more thought. Appreciate you taking the time to share all of that!
hey! i had a theory you may be interested in: what if the reason they're so hush hush ab the phase 4 timeline is because they're gonna retcon them all to be pretty concurrent with eachother leading up to secret wars? that way by the time 2026 is here in our real world, it'll be 2026 in the mcu and no longer be taking place in the future. idk, seems possible to me
I like that idea! Ironically, losing a year of content due to the pandemic actually helped in moving us closer to present day in the MCU. But they still have to close a 3 year gap between MCU present day end of 2025 and real world end of 2022.. So it could be tough. I'll be rooting for them to pull it off!
Hey, nice video. I noticed in Doctor Strange MoM, that at the start when Strange confronts Wanda, her trees are blossoming so it’s spring but in the post credit scene it’s autumn. Maybe a fun tidbit for the timeline
Yeah, great point. The theory on that is that all the trees were an illusion as they do fade away when Dr. Strange confronts her. So that's why it ultimately seems like a late fall movie. But yeah, that has led to some definite confusion. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!
Hey, you’re doing great on the videos! Amazing job! Just one question - at 8:06 you mentioned a 5th Dr. Strange movie? Perhaps you got that mixed up with the Thor films, but I’m not 100% sure. Thanks for the content!
Yes, I am a total dork and did indeed have a brain freeze on the numbering. Great catch. Sorry for the confusion on that. And thanks so much for watching the video and adding your thoughts!
I'd be fine if they pushed Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars back a bit to get some sequels, second seasons, and specials. Maybe Moon Knight S2, Eternals 2, Shang Chi 2 if Cretton can work on a lot of stuff at once, and some specials introducing like Nova or maybe some more obscure characters. I think it'd actually be cool to do a mutants series where each ep is like 30 minutes focused on whatever mutant will be in the main MCU X-Men team. As for where characters will appear, I think Monica and Carol will be in Secret Invasion for at least a cameo. I also think Loki Season 2 will be much bigger than anyone expects, but I don't know exactly who I would bet on showing up. Maybe a couple of the Eternals.
Yes, I totally agree...I would be fine if they extended Phases 5 and 6. Much as I am anxious to see the upcoming two Avengers movies, we need time to get all the heroes in the right place for the movies to be perfect. I am especially interested to get the three entries you mention: MK S2, Eternals 2 and Shang Chi 2. I'd also be down for Dr. Strange 3 in advance of the movies as well. And you may well be right about Secret Invasion. My gut tells me it will be very down to earth and won't have alot of powerful superheroes involved, but I could be off on that. Anyway, thanks for the sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
Also, with Jenna Ortega being confirmed for Daredevil: Born Again and rumored to be playing White Tiger, I think it's safe to say she'll join the roster of characters chosen to do combat with Kang in Kang Dynasty.
I would agree, if she joins the MCU, she'd be a great candidate for helping in the combat against Kang. Would love to see her in the MCU. She's an amazing actress!
wong has a high chance of appearing in ironheart. spoilers kinda but its rumored that ironheart will be focused on technology vs magic and anything thats magic related wong is there
Oh, how fascinating. I hadn't heard that, but I just googled and found that article. Should be really interesting to see how he will fit into that storyline. Thanks so much for the tip!
I hope we see The Watcher (not to be confused with the Watcher Informant) show up in Kang Dynasty, with something similar to him looking into the mirror in What If and being caught and pursued by Ultron. I could see something like that happening with Kang knowing about Uatu’s existence and endlessly pursuing him.
Great additions. I definitely missed Nakia and Korg. Xialing on the other hand I included in my "state of villainy" video with a status of "on probation" as we need to see what she's going to do with the 10 rings to know if she's breaking bad or not. The end of Shang Chi left it up in the air. But hopefully we'll learn more about her next move soon as Shang Chi 2 is supposedly greenlit. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your feedback. Really appreciate it!
I feel like heroes should have more interactions with other heroes more often in the MCU even if it’s a small cameo just to show that they actually have a relationship with each other especially if they in the same city. Like I understand maybe a hero can’t just randomly appear in like a final battle because of plot reasons and it takes away from the main character of the story like that’s why Spider-Man wasn’t in Hawkeye even though we know Spider-Man is in New York during that time period. But damn it’s not a bad thing to have a hero randomly interacting with another hero. Like I’ll be down to just see Scott and Clint having lunch together.
Great points. That's actually one of the reasons I really liked both Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk, as both series really made you feel like the heroes were real. There were continual references to what other heroes were doing, there was AvengerCon, and there were cameos by Wong and Daredevil as well as of course Hulk. But you are right, we need more of this. Just small cameos can go a long way to building the bond that the heroes have between each other. Netflix did a great job with this in each of their series. Here's to hoping that Phase 5 does more if it!
That's a great idea. Would be a fun way to provide backstory on the character before the throwdown with Thor. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
Amazing video, but I do have a couple of questions. Do you think that red Dagger will return in the future? Where do you think that Namor will return, in his own series or somewhere else? Do you think that Katy will return and why didn't you include her and Namor in this list as both can be seen as heroes? And the last question: Do you think that Abomination and the Abomaste will return and if so will this be as (anti)heroes?
Great questions. - I wondered if I should have included Red Dagger. It seemed like he was a one-off, but you're the second person to ask, so when I update this down the road I will include him. - As for Katy, I kind of consider her like I do Ned and MJ or Pepper Potts or Happy. They have all helped out the main hero and done some good work along the way, but I don't know that any of them would consider themselves a hero. That said, perhaps I should reconsider adding people like them. - Since Namor hasn't done anything heroic yet, I still consider him a villain, but I suspect he may become more heroic down the road. - I really hope we see Abomination again. He is amazing. I suspect the Abomaste are one and done, but I could be wrong on them. Again, great questions. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!
You touched on resurrection with Jane, some resurrections need to happen like Jane for example, they cant just create a good hero to kill it in the same movie
Yeah, I agree. I suspect they do plan to bring her back and I'm okay with it in her case. I just want to be sure it is done in a clearly one off fashion, or it would make you wonder why they wouldn't bring back everyone from Valhalla...Odin, Frigga, Loki, Warriors Three, Heimdall, etc. But as long as they handle it very carefully, then I'm good with it.
I think hercules has a high chance of appearing in kang dinasty first, in the comics he was crucial for defeating kang when he was part of the previous avengers line up
I think Bucky is in Cap 4, but other than that, most appearances were decently solid, though I expect a couple of your Kang Dynasty picks, like Shang-Chi to show up sooner.
Good call on Bucky in CA4! Although I did hear Sebastian Stan saying that he doesn't want to be in each appearance with Anthony Mackie as he wants him to fly solo (pun intended) sometimes. So I kinda wonder if we'll see him in that movie or not. And I really do hope we get Shang Chi sooner rather than later. Great comments!
Oh man, please don't make fun of me as I am sooooo low tech. I like to make the content using the simplest possible tools that still gives a nice visual look. So I grab the screen shots from the movies / tv shows from images I find on the web and use...wait for it...paintbrush to edit them. So lame. I know. Then, I put them in Powerpoint to format them. Powerpoint is so easy to use but also has alot of nice functionality. And then I use OBS to record. So there you have it. Please don't think less of me for using such pitifully unimpressive software. Hope that helps. I agree, an earth map would be a very cool visual!
@@AbitofEverything4U It's okay, if it fit no matter what complicated are. I try to do it with that. If I succeeded, do you have an email or Twitter to send it to you?
The absence of the other Defenders is kinda weird in this video, especially since Daredevil and Fisk’a returns have canonized the Defenders saga, and Jessica Jones’ actress and Luke Cage’s actor posted a selfie together on the set of a project that they mysteriously didn’t mention. Any other film studio would’ve wanted them to talk about or at least show what they were filming for the publicity, but the post was devoid of any identifying details, meaning they’ve probably filmed their MCU return already.
Oh my, the Netflix shows canon status is such a point of debate and I wish Marvel would just give us an answer once and for all. There is no doubt that the shows were filmed and released MCU canon and Feige even confirmed it back in 2017. So they were 100% canon. However, it's unclear whether they are still canon. You are correct that both Daredevil and Kingpin have appeared and for the most part tie in perfectly with the Netflix shows (other than Kingpin seeming to be alot stronger...but he may have gotten a shot of the super soldier serum after DD S3). But that doesn't mean the Netflix shows are still canon...it just means they haven't been contradicted at this point. I think we need to wait for DD: Born Again to come out before we get a 100% confirmation that the shows are still canon. So I have left them out for now until we see Jessica Jones and Luke Cage appear again. My hope is all the Netflix shows are canon, but I suspect Marvel will keep dragging their feet about an answer for as long as they can. Anyway, great comments. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts. I love the dialogue with other MCU fans!
Do you think you’re gonna ever make a video looking at the different sectors and stories happening in them in the MCU? (Like cosmic, street level, supernatural etc)
I think that's a good idea. At this point, some of them are still gelling, particularly supernatural and street level, but I really like that idea for a video. Thanks for the encouragement to make it happen. I really appreciate it!
@@awesomeobliterated8890 Yeah, I do think it will be a cool video. I love that the MCU has so many different sectors. It's what keeps things so interesting!
I'd like to believe that we'll see Nakia in Avengers: Kang Dynasty after Wakanda Forever yet at the same time I feel like her duties as a mother to T'Challa II will make an appearance from her in Kang Dynasty unlikely. I doubt her son will have aged much either by the time Kang Dynasty rolls around. So I think her commitments as a mother may keep her from joining the Avengers in Kang Dynasty. Who knows though. She may still find a way to somehow defend Wakanda from Kang's variants in a way where she doesn't have to travel too far from her home in Haiti.
I think Shang Chi might show up in the Marvels as well. Seeing as the Ten Rings apparently are related to Kamala's bangle and Carol also being present at the end of his movie. If not, I think the rings at least are mentioned? Seems weird to no highlight their connection before Kang Dynasty
Yes, I think that's a great idea. That connection is going to be really important, so maybe Captain Marvel notices it and that brings the storylines together. Love that theory!
Dang, you missed an opportunity to include Peter 2 and 3. I am very confident we'll see them in Secret Wars, mostly because of how well No Way Home was received.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Wong appears before Lang dynasty just cause he’s been appearing in so many different things like obviously doctor strange and he also appears in like she hulk and shangchi
Forgot about Sif, Variant Loki, and Sylvie. Also, can't wait for the Fantastic Four and Adam Warlock to be introduced... as well as rumored shows like Nova, Silver Surfer, and Wonder Man. Avengers: Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars will be epic!
Great comments. I definitely forgot Sif. She rocks! I'm not sure what to do with Variant Loki. Not sure he's heroic yet, but he's definitely on his way. And regarding Sylvie, I think she would classify as a villain at this point as she selfishly killed He Who Remains and as a result created the chaos of the multiverse. Not that I wouldn't have considered killing HWR if I was in that situation, but I still suspect she's not in the hero category yet. As for all those new heroes you mention...totally excited about them. We are getting some great new additions in Phase 5 and 6. I suspect we won't get quite as many new heroes as we got in Phase 4, but still some awesome new additions coming. And it will make both of the new Avengers films all the more incredible. Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I really appreciate hearing what other MCU fans are thinking!
I can't believe you forgot about Pip, who's with the Eternals and Starfox. Unforgivable. Speaking of which, the stage is set for a Beta Ray Bill movie or Disney+ special. All the characters who appear in his 2021 comic mini-series have now been introduced in the MCU (minus Bill), and I'd love to see that story adapted.
Too funny! Actually, the CGI for Pip ... now THAT was unforgivable. Ugh. But yeah, I should probably include him. I guess he's a super hero. He kinda seems like a companion (ala Happy Hogan, Katy, Ned Leeds, etc). But I should likely add him. And yes, we so need a Beta Ray Bill movie/special. They've been teasing him for too long. Time to deliver on that, Marvel!
@@AbitofEverything4U yes he looked quite bad XD And also, I just thought it was funny that Patton Oswalt has technically played six different characters in the MCU now. Granted, I never watched Agents of Shield past season 2, so I never saw most of those appearances.
Thanks! Yep, it does take alot of time to read all the comments, but have really found it valuable, so it's worth it in the end. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback!
Only thing I disagree with is Eternals’ year. Ajak says “5 years ago thanos erased half of the population of the universe” (which happened in 2018 ) making it the year 2023 when she said that. But that was also a flashback like a week before she died so unless this takes place at the ass end of 2023/2024 I would say it’s 2023. But I love the video and you put so much hard work in I can tell.
Thanks for the kind words about the video. I appreciate it! And you bring up a topic that has been a crazy mess for quite some time: the Eternals timeline placement. I did a video on it, but I'll mention a few of the key points here. - One of the only indications of the time of year for present day in the movie is a pumpkin on display at Phastos' home. It appears to be carved, so that would imply late October. - There is an ad for the GRC that is seen very early in the movie. The fact that a global government entity is up and running makes it seem like some time has passed since everyone returned from the blip. It's hard to imagine an agency like that could get going until well into 2024. - Disney+ places Eternals in their timeline after Shang Chi, meaning it is sometime in 2024 after April or even July (depending on where people place that movie). - Producer Nate Moore said that Eternals happens around the time of Spiderman: Far From Home, placing it in mid to late 2024 as that movie is in the June/July 2024 timeframe. - Sprite refers to Steve as "Captain Rogers" but calls Tony "Iron Man", which makes it seem like this is after Sam became Captain America in Falcon and the Winter Soldier which is why Sprite couldn't call Steve Captain America So all of those things seem to place it in October of 2024. On the flip side, there are the two things you mentioned that make the end of 2023 sound better: - The flashback of Ajak's death clearly places her death a week before present day in the movie - Right before Ajak's death she says that humanity returned from Thanos' snap 5 years ago and of course the snap happened in 2018 so 2023 seems like present day in the movie. However, it is worth noting that Ajak is an Eternal so the difference between 5 and 6 years is like a millisecond to her. So she may have rounded 6 years to 5 simply because it is an irrelevant difference to her. Anyway, it's one of those movies that is a real mess from a timeline standpoint, but I personally like the D+ placement in Oct of 2024. Thanks again for watching the video and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!
I feel that ms. Marvel might appear in secret invasion, since it’s marked as a crossover series and She’s the most connected to Nick Fury. Maybe we’ll see some others too since it’s “crossover” but not sure what to expect. I also predict that Shang chi 2 will be before Kang dynasty, as there was a rumor for Shang chi and the wreckage of time movie. That movie sounds like it could include the multiverse and lead into a movie like Kang dynasty or secret wars, so that’s why I think that
1. Shang Chi's friend Katy is considered a hero as well. Trained by a Ta Lo master archer, fought 10 rings henchmen and dark dimension demons, then summoned by Wong. San Francisco and May appear in SC2 2. Kate Bishop i think is still training with Hawkeye and will aid Laura Barton when she re-emerges as Agent 19 aka Mockingbird. May appear in Armor Wars. 3. Kamran is in Pakistan training with the Red Daggers. May appear in Ms Marvel Season 2. 4. Sylvie is in the Land at the end of time and will reappear in Loki Season 2. 5. Moonknight in London and will meet Sprite somewhere in England, but Layla/Scarlett Scarab stayed in Egypt. Will reappear in Moonknight Season 2. 6. Ned Leeds at MIT but will be called to Kamar Taj to train with Dr Strange. MJ will meet up with Riri Williams and appear in Ironheart. 7. Maria Hill and Nick Fury, in Europe somewhere hiding out. Appearing in Secret Invasion. 8. There are 2 Midnight Angels, both in the borders of Wakanda. Nakia, a formidable fighter with her ringed blades in Haiti with her son. 9. Pepper Potts upstate New York being a mum but still has access to the Ironman suits. 10. Elsa Bloodstone still at Bloodstone castle making it her home again. 11. Hercules will first step foot in Greece most likely in Thor 5. 12. Isaiah Bradley will have an encounter with the Red Guardian. Maybe in Thunderbolts. 13. Lady Sif on New Asgard training fighters. Will be in Thor 5. 14. Ikarus returns to the Domo to help Thena and co to find Sersi, Kingo and Phastos 15. Namor in Talocan, returning in a cameo of Midnight Angels. 16. Everything else sounds accurate.
Wow! Great feedback. Love the status updates. I was torn on whether to consider the people like Katy, Ned, Pepper, even Happy for that matter. They don't really have powers and while they have helped the heroes, they almost deserve a video focusing specifically on partners for the heroes. I do think I should perhaps include Korg, however, as he went to battle on the bridge in Ragnarok. Some of the characters you mention I didn't include in this video but they are in the State of Villainy video as I don't consider them heroes quite yet. Namor and Ikaris in particular. So you might check out that video as well, if you get a chance. Again, thanks so much for watching and sharing all your comments. Love the dialogue with other MCU fans!
Yes, that would be very interesting to see how she copes with being human. Perhaps Eternals 2 will touch on it, but I agree that a D+ series on it might be fun to watch as well. Thanks for watching the video and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
LOL! Okay, that did make me laugh. Yes, Hawkeye was most definitely last seen on Dec 25th! I was just in the zone of going month and year only, but I suspect that date is a pretty safe assumption, eh? Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
Yes, Phase 5 will have a tricky task ahead of finding a way to give us time with all the new heroes, but I hope they find a way to make it happen sooner than later. Great comments!
I think a doctor strange movie might happen before kang dynasty. I came up with this because to me it kinda makes since and they could do something similar like with thor 3 where in the end credits thanos attacked Thor's ship and i could see something similar happening in the 3rd doctor strange movie but with kang attacking and capturing doctor strange then in the beginning of kang dynasty it picks up right after it.
It certainly would be nice to have a Dr. Strange 3 before Kang Dynasty. If they can fit it in, then I am all for it. Really liked MoM and I suspect part 3 will be even better!
Yeah, I just wish they would tell us what happened to Steve. Since it's been just over 2 years since Endgame happened in the MCU, perhaps he finally died. It's just weird they let him walk off, never to be heard from again. As for whether Hulk can de-age him, that's an interesting thought. We really don't know the ramifications of that, since when it happened to Ant-Man they fixed it before we knew if anything bad might result from it. But it certainly is an interesting thought. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
@@AbitofEverything4U I mean the whole time traveling Steve would deserve a movie or series and how the TVA and Kang would react to that. There could be a reason why he makes Sam a Cap. Maybe he hides on a secret stealth mission just to come out of nowhere in Kang Dynasty and surprises everyone because Sam has the predestined Captain America position... I go for the old rule: Not dead until you see the body (or serious mention).
@@cedrickterrick Oh, I would LOVE a special presentation on Steve and the time traveling. I would be so down for that. And they could address where he is now as well. Please, Marvel, give us that story!
Thanks so much for the kind words and positive feedback. And yes, my sincere apologies to good ol' Korg. I left him off by accident. He fully deserves to be standing alongside the other heroes. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback!
Was the ending of Dr. Strange ( when he grew a third eye) a different Dr. Strange? Because the end credit scene when he met Clea he was wearing different clothing? I think the ending and the end credits showed two different Stephen Strange.
Interesting theory. I can see that potentially being the case. Now I really want Dr. Strange 3 to come out so we can get a resolution to that mystery 3rd eye. Thanks for sharing that theory. I'll do some research on it as you definitely have me curious.
No complaints at all if that happens. She was a highlight of Phase 4 and it will be great to see her again. Thanks for watching and sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
I've had trouble discerning exactly what he was saying, tbh. I know he wants a major tone shift from L&T and also that he is fine with his character ending his story. But I couldn't tell if he was okay with doing another avengers film (Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars or both) and then ending with Thor 5 or just wanted to do 1 more film period. But I definitely think we are seeing the end of his character soon.
That is such a difficult question. I did a video on the pre-Disney+ shows and whether they are still canon or not. They were definitely canon when they were first released, but the fact that D+ doesn't put them in the official timeline is concerning. I am waiting until we get 100% confirmation that those pre-D+ shows are still considered 616 canon. Hopefully the Echo series and for sure the DD: Born Again series will answer it once and for all. If I were to hazard a guess at this point, I suspect we won't see Iron Fist again and that will cause alot of questions about the shows. But I do hope they keep as much of the shows being canon as possible. Hope that helps. I don't think there is a firm answer at this point. Anyway, really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts. Thanks so much!
This really has nothing to do with this video but I was thinking about kang dynasty and all thy really need is scarlet witch. Which makes me so incredibly nervous that they’re depower her
Interesting point. I hope they don't have to depower her, but you are right, she may end up being super OP after she gets her powers under control. I suspect we will see her next in Agatha's series and maybe we'll get an answer there.
@@IronheartvsMiles I am really hoping they somehow limit how Kang can time travel. I really prefer the endgame rules that create a branch if you travel back in time meaning your past can't change your future. That said, the Ms. Marvel's time travel seemingly broke that rule, but it did it via a "closed loop" time travel scenario vs. a "completely re-writing the future" time travel scenario. Because if Kang can just go back and kill everyone, then there is seemingly no way to defeat him. But I guess we'll have to see what Marvel has in store. I suspect we will learn alot in Quantumania.
I think there's a good chance Monica is in secret invasion. There are no slots left before Kang Dynasty. But I think Eternals 2 will be between Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars, as one of those 3 movies. I think MoM's credits scene with Clea is at an ambiguous time. He seems fine with his 3rd eye after just screaming about it I also think Moon Knight s2 will be spring 2025, just before Kang Dynasty. If not, then definitely later in phase 6 I'll actually be annoyed if Shang-Chi doesn't show up again until Kang Dynasty. That's 3 1/2 years. Ridiculous. I don't recall the info that Alexei was blipped? Was that mentioned by Yelena in Hawkeye? On stage by David Harbour?
Great comments. I agree on the need for Eternals 2, Dr. Strange 3, Moon Knight S2 and Shang Chi 2. I hope they can find slots for all of those prior to Secret Wars, if not before Kang Dynasty. Of course, that's the trouble with so many heroes. It's hard to give them all ample time. But Marvel's been doing great so far, so I'm sure they can make it all work. As for Alexei, I'm just assuming that he was blipped due to him not getting together with Black Widow during the the 5-year period. I guess he could have been around, but it would be weird if she didn't reconnect during those difficult years. Just my 2 cents though. I could very well be wrong on that.
I think Kate is going to be in Echo not Quantumania but we'll. Excited for CCXP And Hope to get trailers for: What If Season 2, Loki Season 2, Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3, Ironheart, The Marvels.
@@AbitofEverything4U Hope to get Echo Trailer And Young Avengers Announcement At CCXP With Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3 Trailer, Loki Season 2 Trailer, What If Season 2 Trailer.
Good question. I suspect he will appear next in Secret Invasion. He seemed to be on the run in the trailers for that series. Should be a great D+ show!
@@maestrogeicho I've been hearing that the show takes place in the 5 year gap during endgame (I could be wrong) but if that is the case, where would he go after his escape?
That's the million dollar question, isn't it? I think the vision that Wanda created inside the hex did end up unlocking some of the White Vision's memories but it will be interesting to see how that all works out. I'm really excited to see him appear again so we can get that answered once and for all.
@@Top51828 I think the Hex Vision unlocked White Vision's original memories (so everything up to being killed by Thanos) but it didn't restore his emotions. So he is a blank slate in that regard.
i think eternals 2 has been announced for november 2024 but im not sure The TVA is technically outside the sacred timeline, it isn't anywhen or any time. And i think the show said the void was past the sacred timeline, a part of reality that has not yet been writen by the time keepers (kang) Tommy and Billy maximoff where created with the soul fragments of the demon Mephisto, and with the latest casting of Sacha Baron Cohen as Mephisto (who will probably make a small cameo in Ironheart as the person who gave "The Hood", the rumoured villain of the show, his powers) it looks like the mcu is going down that story line. And i think agatha traped their souls in the darkholed (and thanks to wanda destroying the darkholed, their souls have been released and will then be reborn and Tommy Shepherd and Billy Kaplan in coven of chaos It's confermed the scarlet witch is still alive, also in the comics her powers are so strong that if she's not always in control she could easyly whipe out a continent (or so ive heard idk if they are really that strong) so her powers probably acted for their selves to save wanda, because there is no way the nexus of the multiverse, most powerfull person their is, dies to a falling building. Also i think wandvision is coming back for a season 2 as like an animated series of something so we will probs see her their, and olsen herself said she wasn't in ACOC but she would love to be in it White vision is coming back in his own Disney plus show "Vision Quest" They never actually said where clint barton's farm was. Hawkeye wanted it to be a secret, kevin feige kept it a secret Hulk being in CANWO Would make sence, specifically because of the casting of Shira Haas as "Sabra" since her first appearence in the comics was fighting Bruce Baner when he landed in Israel and hulked out I personally think shang-chi 2 will release befor kang dynasty but, its release hasn't been announced, so we will saddly have to wait It makes sence for kate bishop to make a small appearce in A-MATWQ because in the comics they are really close friends i think, and they are in the same team, so if she doen't appear as just her friend, then maybe in the post credit scene she will appear and say "we are putting together a team, wanna join?" and thats how The Younge Avengers start to form (i dont think kate would be the one to set it up, but maybe America Chavez or Billy Kaplan and they just asked kate to go recrewt her)
Great comments! Thanks so much for all the terrific commentary. I'll throw in a few thoughts: - Eternals 2: Didn't realize it was announced, but I'm all for it. Can't wait! - TVA/Void: It sure seems like it is outside of time. However, He Who Remains wasn't completely honest so I guess I'm open to learning just about anything in Loki S2 - Tommy and Billy: Absolutely LOVE your theory. That would be very cool! - Wanda: Yes, I firmly believe Wanda is alive, but until she shows up again, I guess it's all just rumor. But I am 100% sure she is alive. No way they kill her and your points about her powers make perfect sense. - White Vision: Not sure if VisionQuest comes out before or after Wonder Man, but I agree, we will see Vision in both. Should be great! - Hawkeye's farm: The wiki lists it as Iowa, but you could be right that it was never stated in the movies/D+ shows - Sabra: Yes, I do suspect she will be a mutant. Kinda funny we are getting all of these random mutants rather the the X-men. But I like the slow build - Shang Chi 2: Would love it to come out before Kang Dynasty, but it might be tough to fit in it. Again, fantastic comments. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. Love the dialogue with other MCU fans!
@@AbitofEverything4U thank you so much I forgot about Loki season 2 lol and I think sabra is a mutant in the comics, but I'm not really sure what her powers are, I think it's like finger guns or something (and I think she has some sort of regenerative healing power) Also, I heard a rumour about making a Hercules project, but due to Disney making a live action Hercules soon they are going to try and mix the movies so that it's just 1 Hercules instead of 2 (but I hope they don't because they would probably try to make Hercules too childish for a marvel project)
I don't know if this is a question you'd ever field, but: If they weren't willing to give that position to Moon Knight (MAN was THAT a missed opportunity), who is Marvel going to designate their "Florida Man"? Punisher, maybe?
Great comments! So with Cosmo, I wasn't sure if she would be going into battle and fighting with the Guardians or would just be hanging around Knowhere and helping fix it up. But if she shows up in Guardians 3 and helps them, I will definitely add her to the list. On Katy, I wasn't sure what to do with the non super powered friends that help out. I could add Ned from the Spider-Man films and Happy and Pepper from the Iron Man films, etc, but it might get crazy after awhile. I wonder if I should do a "partners" video featuring all the people that have helped the heroes in their adventures? Anyway, really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
It’s definitely implied that captain marvel and ms marvel swapped places, making ms marvels location most likely somewhere in space - not in New Jersey.
Right...definitely agree that the end-credit scene will happen eventually. The current location was where I think each hero is at the end of 2025 (i.e. the end of Phase 4) and I am betting that the end-credit scene with the switch hasn't happened at that point. It happens while she's still in school, but it is likely near the end of her Junior year and well into 2026, which makes it right around the time that The Marvels comes out. Sorry for making that confusing. I probably didn't explain it very well in the video. But thanks for watching and sharing your feedback. I really appreciate it!
I think Jane Foster, of all the characters, needs to stay dead. Not only is her whole arc one of the best things about that movie, but I feel like trivialising something as serious as cancer is a bad move for Marvel, and it's not like they really need her. I'd also quite like Wanda to stay dead, I'm honestly pretty tired of her. The fact that she keeps doing pretty heinous stuff and never gets meaningfully held to account for it really irritated me, especially after Wandavision where, frankly, she crossed a line.
I agree, I would be okay with Jane Foster staying in Valhalla with that being the end of her character arc. She came back in the comics, but I feel it really cheapens things to have her come back. And I understand your sentiment with Wanda. I think we will see her again, but she has a looooooong way to go to come back from all she's done. Great comments!
@@apoorvsingh4459 Agreed...I am excited to see her again and I ranked WandaVision as my #1 entry in Phase 4. But I do think it's going to be tough for her to get past all that has happened in WandaVision and especially in Multiverse of Madness. So I'm hoping Marvel handles her return well. Lot riding on it!
I love Madisynn! I didn't include her here, though, as I was focusing on the superheroes. But I sooooo want to see her back again with Wong (aka Wongers). Such a great couple!
Interesting...I guess I thought of Korg and Meik more as companions as they haven't gone into battle per se. I would likely have to include Katy from Shang Chi, Ned from the Spidey films, and Pepper and Happy from the Iron Man movies if I include Korg and Meik. But I do love them both...they are awesome! Maybe I need to do a video solely on all of the companions that help the heroes. There are so many great supporting characters. Thoughts? Thanks so much for watching and sharing your feedback. Really appreciate it!
Thanks! Yeah, I respect that people have their own opinions about the MCU and Phase 4, but I liked it overall. Certainly some rough spots, but lots of fantastic content as well. And I'm really excited as we move into Phase 5. Hope you enjoy the video. Thanks for watching!
Excellent catch! I can't believe I missed that. You definitely win an award for attention to detail. Really appreciate you watching the vid and sharing your feedback!
@@AbitofEverything4U Thanks for the compliment! I think you said DS5 because you were talking about Thor 5 a little before that. You put so much effort and detail in your videos so it doesn’t surprise me that no one else caught it.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if Cosmo felt she should be included yet. Wonder if she considers herself combat ready? : ) You are probably right, though. I will definitely include her in the video update when we get deeper into Phase 5. Great suggestion!
What fantastic casting for Kate and such a great entrance into the MCU. Can't wait to see her appear again. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
I love how the MCU is so divided into different arcs now (Cosmic, Multiverse, Street, Supernatural and etc.), I’m so curious in how they’re gonna team up together in Kang Dynasty/Secret Wars, it’ll be a hell of a battle! Amazing work. That helps to keep track with all the (spread) heroes
Yes, great point. This video really made me realize how the different segments of the MCU are all in their own little areas, but will somehow all come together for the mega team-up. Should be amazing!
But it was done poorly
@@larryfoulkeofficial8609 I suspect it's hard to judge the execution at this point, due to Phase 4 being such a setup phase. Hopefully we will really see the different arcs take shape as we move into Phase 5 and beyond.
@@AbitofEverything4U it being a set up phase is the problem. It's just a excuse for marvel to throw anything at a wall to see what sticks. Would've been better if the stories were self contained
@@larryfoulkeofficial8609 Perhaps. I guess for me, it was nice to see so many building blocks being laid out on the table. I think that it's hard to judge Phase 4 at this point, as we don't know where everything will lead. I completely agree that if things don't pay off and tie together in Phase 5 and 6, then Phase 4 will end up being abit pointless. But I suspect Feige will continue to surprise us with how much the story does come together. But only time will tell.
Assuming Kate wasn’t completely kicked out of school for destroying the bell tower, she finished her last semester of college around April of 2025, and did not want to work for Bishop Security, but there’s a chance she’s taken on a role temporarily at her mother’s request, but as soon as she gets called back to superhero stuff she’ll leave it immediately and never go back.
Well said. I think that's a perfect description of the most likely next steps for Kate. Really looking forward to seeing her again soon!
Wow, that's a lot more heroes than I realized. Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars are going to be absolutely insane.
Totally...it's gonna be bonkers. Can't wait!
I think what's grabbing my interest the most is what's going to happen to Vision
Yes, his story is really up in the air right now. Could go so many different ways. I am hearing he is in armor wars as well as wonder man, so those are going to be two very intriguing appearances!
I was thinking Shang-Chi could appear in The Marvels because of the possible connection with the Ten Rings and the Bangles
I'm all for that! Good call. Would make alot of sense!
This is really my hope!
@@rw835 Agreed!
Awesome video. I love these "State of MCU" videos. I feel like some of the sequel movies and TV shows like Eternals 2 and Moon Knight S2 will come out before Kang Dynasty like you said, it's just that Marvel hadn't announced them yet because their first movies/seasons had just come out or hadn't even come out when they revealed Phase 5
Yes, completely agree with you that several titles haven't been announced yet, especially for Phase 6 and that will let us catch up with lots of the newer heroes and what they have been up to.
So glad you liked the video. The State of Villainy is next and it was such a major update from beginning to end. Hope you like it!
@@AbitofEverything4U Can't wait!
On Reddit there was a fan pitch for a Shang-Chi sequel called The Wreckage of Time in between KD and SW which entailed Shang-Chi, Moonknight and Ms. Marvel going back in time to Ancient Eygpt to learn about the 10 rings and the bangles as artefacts left by a Ramatut Kang variant. Far fetched especially as the director is busy and it's also a lot but 100% perfect movie if it ever happened as all characters involved are S tier imo
I heard rumors about that, too. Would love if it is true as it would be a fantastic plot. Hopefully we will get the Phase 6 slate soon and then we'll know for sure. Thanks for watching and sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
I love the Dr Strange captured idea of leading into KD similar to Thanos arriving in Ragnorok leading into IW
Right! I think it could very well be a similar situation to that. Excellent analogy!
I am not sure if Kingo is still held capture by Arishem, because in the Guardians Holiday Special there was a sign for a new Kingo movie.
I wondered about that, but Kingo could have filmed it already as they are filmed an then have quite awhile before editing, post production, etc. Or to your point, Eternals 2 may occur before 2025 ends. It could be that Eternals 2 directly follows Eternals 1, so in that case you are definitely correct that whatever happens in Eternals 2 has happened well before 2025 closes out. Great comments!
This video was well made! Good job!
Thanks! It was alot of fun to make. Appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
I'm so sad that this phase is coming to an end but I am excited to see what comes next!
I agree. It's been a good Phase overall. Rocky at times, but so much great content!
The fact that they introduced over 30 heroes alone in Phase 4 blows my mind!
It's truly amazing. And there will be more new ones in Phase 5. Probably not at that pace, I hope, but still. Marvel definitely has a very large bench!
Agreed.
What i really think is cool, is the amount of heroes on the west coast, which of course could potentially lead into a West Coast Avengers project (this, and with Wonder Man showing up soon). A team that i’ve been dying to see in live action :,)
Yes! My first iteration of the State of Heroism was focused on who might join the Avengers and I was really excited about the prospect of a West Coast Avengers team. I agree, would be fantastic to see that finally happen!
Great breakdown chief! It's rad how spread out these guys are now the fun part will be how are they all gonna connect come secret wars
IKR? Will be really cool to see all their different spread-out stories slowly leading to the giant Secret Wars team-up. Should be awesome!
@@AbitofEverything4U it's gonna be epic, you know everyone is giving phase 4 a hard time and while there are some eh and meh moments I really think phase 5 and 6 is gonna be what folks have been waiting for
@@bobbywilliams4438 Totally. Phase 4 really set up Phase 5 and 6 and it's gonna be lock and load from here on out!
Hi! I just wanted to say that I loved this video! There are a couple things I wanted to clarify that were found in the video.
1) you put Yelena and Red Guardian as introduced before phase 4, but Black Widow was the First Phase 4 movie, so I was a little confused by that.
2) another thing, and this one is really sad, Chris Hemsworth said he’d take a break from acting because he found out that he has a gene that makes him more susceptible to Alzheimer’s. So, I don’t know when (or even if) we’ll see Thor again.
Thanks so much for the positive feedback. I really appreciate it! And thanks for watching the video, too!
Regarding Yelena/Red Guardian, I think I forgot to say in the video that for prequels (Captain America, Captain Marvel and Black Widow) I put them in the order they would have appeared chronologically. But everything else is in release order. That's why Captain Marvel is first in the group shot. Sorry that I forgot to mention that. I did that on my state of villainy video as well. The prequels just work better if they are located correctly in the chronology, especially in the state of villainy.
Regarding Helmsworth, I think he was just saying he has the gene, but that it may not affect him at all or it may affect him in 20 yrs, but that it won't necessarily stop him from going on living life to the fullest. So I do hope we see him again as Thor. And of course I hope that the gene is only an indicator but doesn't result in the disease. Alzheimer's Disease is such a terrible thing to happen to someone. Truly wishing him the best!
@@AbitofEverything4U I see, thanks for clearing things up!
@@Gen-ZChristian Sure thing. And thanks for the dialogue. I really appreciate hearing what other MCU fans are thinking!
I love all the new heroes introduced in Phase 4!! My favorites have to be Kamala, Druig, and Moon Knight (Both Steven and Marc!)
Who have been your favorite new additions?
Now that's an interesting idea for a Phase 4 close-out video. Ranking my favorite new heros. Hmmmm... Okay, I would have to go with Kate Bishop, Shang Chi, and Moon Knight. Daredevil gets an asterisk since he technically already was introduced. I do love Druig, though. He powers are really fun to watch. And Kamala was also great and I can't wait to see her again in The Marvels.
Would love to see you have a go at placing the Netflix shows in the timeline since they’re almost certainly canon now or at least Daredevil is.
I am so confused on the Netflix canon status. I know they were all canon when they were first released. But Marvel is playing coy with us now. Perhaps when Echo comes out we will get a 100% definitive answer. Or at least when Born Again comes out. But yes, I will definitely incorporate the Netflix shows once Marvel reveals their hand. I'm hoping most (if not all) of the shows stay canon.
@@AbitofEverything4U they are definitely making vague on purpose for some reason. Id wait for a definitive answer too
@@whynot7507 Agreed...I hope we do get a firm answer at some point, but right now it is still pretty unclear.
@@AbitofEverything4U I would say unless Marvel says otherwise they can be considered canon. Both Kingpin and Daredevil seem to be the exact same characters from the show aside from a minor strength and durability buff for Kingpin.
@@CobraShadowz I definitely consider them canon until Marvel says they aren't and/or contradicts them. But I'm also skeptical that Marvel will bring them in as is. My gut tells me that they don't bring back Iron Fist. Shang Chi is their martial arts guy and I suspect they don't want two of them. In that case, Defenders would be jettisoned and that impacts DD S3. I also heard they were at least considering an Elektra recast, but then seemed to back away from it. So to your point, they haven't done anything so far to contradict the Netflix shows, but I am just waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop. Hope I'm just being paranoid. I personally loved the Netflix shows. Incredible stories and great casting!
i think with the addition of Riri it’d be cool to do an intelligence ranking for the MCU.
That's a cool idea. As with any ranking it would have subjectivity to it, but there may be ways to try to do it as objectively as possible. I'll put some thought to that. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@AbitofEverything4U it’d probably have to be a few videos because there’s so many non-hero characters to discuss like Darcy or Ned.
@@collizlemynizl Yeah, it might have to just focus on the top X number of characters, in other worse the super smart characters, or you are right that it would be absolutely massive.
Yay! Love these videos of yours.
Today I have rather unrelated topic to discuss, but the one that bugged me for some time. Do superhero themed shows and movies absolutely have to have a villain? I noticed that you sometimes pitch characters to appear in future MCU titles as villains opposing the main characters, like it's an absolute must. But sometimes I feel like villains noticeably smudge the overall feel of the story.
For example - WandaVision. I didn't expect there to be a "villain", I just saw two sides of the conflict - selfish and destructive Wanda and SWORD trying to stop her, doing what had to be done. I felt like it was natural for Wanda to be both the hero and the villain of this story and her path to awareness and overcoming her grief to be the focus of it. And it actually played out pretty similar, but this whole thing of "Agatha all along" kind of pulled the main focus away. It suddenly appeared to be yet another "good vs bad" scenario, which was extremely displaced there. Agatha should not have been the opposing force, and the show, IMO, should not have had a "villain".
I don't like the word "hero" and the word "villain", because both of them severely oversimplfy the reality. You do not become a hero for battling someone else, and I feel like it's often forgotten. Sometimes the battle is set within you and sometimes the battle must be fought against the world itself. Helping those in need, improving your surroundings. And MCU heroes very seldom make a move without someone else challenging them. This is the part why I love Daredevil, for example. He has a clear villain - Kingpin, but the struggle Matt is going through is not about him. It's about making the city a better place. And it so happens that Kingpin is sought after the same thing. They are two players on a board, not the board itself.
Another example is Black Widow. Imagine how sweet it would be if the movie focused on Natasha's family and their personal problems more than on yet another big baddy? It's not even fundamentally wrong approach, it's just boring. Dreykov being defeated does not prove anything, it does not bring more to the character, it's just a spectacle. And who would go to the Black Widow movie, a presumably spy-ish movie, to look at a floating city fall from the skies? Superhero movie or not, the hero must not constantly be super.
Wow, really deep comments. I think in some regards I will touch on that during my updated State of Villainy video, but I do think that people like to see a villain as it contrasts the hero and pushes them to decide what really motivates them and why they are doing what they are doing and challenges their values. The best villains are the ones you almost side with, whether it is Zemo, Thanos, Killmonger, etc. But I do understand your point that we don't always need a villain. As long as the hero is challenged in some way that stretches them and makes them grow, then we don't need a moustache twirling bad guy. Great comments. Maybe we will see more shows and movies that don't have a true villain. But I do suspect that Marvel will stick to that formula, but find ways to keep making it creative. However, you raise some great points and I'll give it more thought. Appreciate you taking the time to share all of that!
hey! i had a theory you may be interested in: what if the reason they're so hush hush ab the phase 4 timeline is because they're gonna retcon them all to be pretty concurrent with eachother leading up to secret wars? that way by the time 2026 is here in our real world, it'll be 2026 in the mcu and no longer be taking place in the future. idk, seems possible to me
I like that idea! Ironically, losing a year of content due to the pandemic actually helped in moving us closer to present day in the MCU. But they still have to close a 3 year gap between MCU present day end of 2025 and real world end of 2022.. So it could be tough. I'll be rooting for them to pull it off!
Hey, nice video. I noticed in Doctor Strange MoM, that at the start when Strange confronts Wanda, her trees are blossoming so it’s spring but in the post credit scene it’s autumn. Maybe a fun tidbit for the timeline
Yeah, great point. The theory on that is that all the trees were an illusion as they do fade away when Dr. Strange confronts her. So that's why it ultimately seems like a late fall movie. But yeah, that has led to some definite confusion. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!
Great video once again!
Many thanks!
Hey, you’re doing great on the videos! Amazing job! Just one question - at 8:06 you mentioned a 5th Dr. Strange movie? Perhaps you got that mixed up with the Thor films, but I’m not 100% sure. Thanks for the content!
Yes, I am a total dork and did indeed have a brain freeze on the numbering. Great catch. Sorry for the confusion on that. And thanks so much for watching the video and adding your thoughts!
I'd be fine if they pushed Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars back a bit to get some sequels, second seasons, and specials. Maybe Moon Knight S2, Eternals 2, Shang Chi 2 if Cretton can work on a lot of stuff at once, and some specials introducing like Nova or maybe some more obscure characters. I think it'd actually be cool to do a mutants series where each ep is like 30 minutes focused on whatever mutant will be in the main MCU X-Men team.
As for where characters will appear, I think Monica and Carol will be in Secret Invasion for at least a cameo. I also think Loki Season 2 will be much bigger than anyone expects, but I don't know exactly who I would bet on showing up. Maybe a couple of the Eternals.
Yes, I totally agree...I would be fine if they extended Phases 5 and 6. Much as I am anxious to see the upcoming two Avengers movies, we need time to get all the heroes in the right place for the movies to be perfect. I am especially interested to get the three entries you mention: MK S2, Eternals 2 and Shang Chi 2. I'd also be down for Dr. Strange 3 in advance of the movies as well. And you may well be right about Secret Invasion. My gut tells me it will be very down to earth and won't have alot of powerful superheroes involved, but I could be off on that. Anyway, thanks for the sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
Also, with Jenna Ortega being confirmed for Daredevil: Born Again and rumored to be playing White Tiger, I think it's safe to say she'll join the roster of characters chosen to do combat with Kang in Kang Dynasty.
I would agree, if she joins the MCU, she'd be a great candidate for helping in the combat against Kang. Would love to see her in the MCU. She's an amazing actress!
wong has a high chance of appearing in ironheart. spoilers kinda but its rumored that ironheart will be focused on technology vs magic and anything thats magic related wong is there
Oh yeah! I forgot about that. I think you are definitely correct on that. The more Wong we get the better. Dude rock it every time he appears!
Just to let you know white vision will appear in armor wars as well. Could you correct that at the start of next video. Thanks
Oh, how fascinating. I hadn't heard that, but I just googled and found that article. Should be really interesting to see how he will fit into that storyline. Thanks so much for the tip!
I hope we see The Watcher (not to be confused with the Watcher Informant) show up in Kang Dynasty, with something similar to him looking into the mirror in What If and being caught and pursued by Ultron. I could see something like that happening with Kang knowing about Uatu’s existence and endlessly pursuing him.
Yes, I'd love to see Kang and the Watcher meet and have a throwdown. Great idea!
Love your videos! But where are Nakia, Korg, Xu Xialing etc?
Great additions. I definitely missed Nakia and Korg. Xialing on the other hand I included in my "state of villainy" video with a status of "on probation" as we need to see what she's going to do with the 10 rings to know if she's breaking bad or not. The end of Shang Chi left it up in the air. But hopefully we'll learn more about her next move soon as Shang Chi 2 is supposedly greenlit. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your feedback. Really appreciate it!
Great vid as always!
Thanks so much!
I feel like heroes should have more interactions with other heroes more often in the MCU even if it’s a small cameo just to show that they actually have a relationship with each other especially if they in the same city. Like I understand maybe a hero can’t just randomly appear in like a final battle because of plot reasons and it takes away from the main character of the story like that’s why Spider-Man wasn’t in Hawkeye even though we know Spider-Man is in New York during that time period. But damn it’s not a bad thing to have a hero randomly interacting with another hero. Like I’ll be down to just see Scott and Clint having lunch together.
Great points. That's actually one of the reasons I really liked both Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk, as both series really made you feel like the heroes were real. There were continual references to what other heroes were doing, there was AvengerCon, and there were cameos by Wong and Daredevil as well as of course Hulk. But you are right, we need more of this. Just small cameos can go a long way to building the bond that the heroes have between each other. Netflix did a great job with this in each of their series. Here's to hoping that Phase 5 does more if it!
They should make a Hercules live-action remake set in the MCU. It is too perfect!
That's a great idea. Would be a fun way to provide backstory on the character before the throwdown with Thor. Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
Your videos are addicting. Keep it up, maybe even post more, and you’ll be at 100k subs in no time
Thanks! Been alot of fun putting the vidoes together. Really appreciate the encouraging words!
Amazing video, but I do have a couple of questions.
Do you think that red Dagger will return in the future?
Where do you think that Namor will return, in his own series or somewhere else?
Do you think that Katy will return and why didn't you include her and Namor in this list as both can be seen as heroes?
And the last question: Do you think that Abomination and the Abomaste will return and if so will this be as (anti)heroes?
Great questions.
- I wondered if I should have included Red Dagger. It seemed like he was a one-off, but you're the second person to ask, so when I update this down the road I will include him.
- As for Katy, I kind of consider her like I do Ned and MJ or Pepper Potts or Happy. They have all helped out the main hero and done some good work along the way, but I don't know that any of them would consider themselves a hero. That said, perhaps I should reconsider adding people like them.
- Since Namor hasn't done anything heroic yet, I still consider him a villain, but I suspect he may become more heroic down the road.
- I really hope we see Abomination again. He is amazing. I suspect the Abomaste are one and done, but I could be wrong on them.
Again, great questions. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!
You touched on resurrection with Jane, some resurrections need to happen like Jane for example, they cant just create a good hero to kill it in the same movie
Yeah, I agree. I suspect they do plan to bring her back and I'm okay with it in her case. I just want to be sure it is done in a clearly one off fashion, or it would make you wonder why they wouldn't bring back everyone from Valhalla...Odin, Frigga, Loki, Warriors Three, Heimdall, etc. But as long as they handle it very carefully, then I'm good with it.
I think hercules has a high chance of appearing in kang dinasty first, in the comics he was crucial for defeating kang when he was part of the previous avengers line up
That's a very good point. Maybe Hercules will appear before Kang Dynasty. Would be great to see the war of the gods sooner than later!
I think there is a series called VisionQuest which maybe soon announced, and that will be most likely before wonderman 🤔
I heard rumors about that one. I would indeed love to get it sooner than later. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your feedback!
I think Bucky is in Cap 4, but other than that, most appearances were decently solid, though I expect a couple of your Kang Dynasty picks, like Shang-Chi to show up sooner.
Good call on Bucky in CA4! Although I did hear Sebastian Stan saying that he doesn't want to be in each appearance with Anthony Mackie as he wants him to fly solo (pun intended) sometimes. So I kinda wonder if we'll see him in that movie or not. And I really do hope we get Shang Chi sooner rather than later. Great comments!
Pretty exciting time!
Totally. Really excited for Phase 5 and beyond!
Hey! Love your video. What tool do you use to make your videos? I want to create an Earth map for the vissual summary of where is all located.
Oh man, please don't make fun of me as I am sooooo low tech. I like to make the content using the simplest possible tools that still gives a nice visual look. So I grab the screen shots from the movies / tv shows from images I find on the web and use...wait for it...paintbrush to edit them. So lame. I know. Then, I put them in Powerpoint to format them. Powerpoint is so easy to use but also has alot of nice functionality. And then I use OBS to record.
So there you have it. Please don't think less of me for using such pitifully unimpressive software. Hope that helps. I agree, an earth map would be a very cool visual!
@@AbitofEverything4U It's okay, if it fit no matter what complicated are. I try to do it with that. If I succeeded, do you have an email or Twitter to send it to you?
Could also use Discord, if that's easier. My discord name is pretty lame, but it's JOOF #9735
The absence of the other Defenders is kinda weird in this video, especially since Daredevil and Fisk’a returns have canonized the Defenders saga, and Jessica Jones’ actress and Luke Cage’s actor posted a selfie together on the set of a project that they mysteriously didn’t mention. Any other film studio would’ve wanted them to talk about or at least show what they were filming for the publicity, but the post was devoid of any identifying details, meaning they’ve probably filmed their MCU return already.
Oh my, the Netflix shows canon status is such a point of debate and I wish Marvel would just give us an answer once and for all. There is no doubt that the shows were filmed and released MCU canon and Feige even confirmed it back in 2017. So they were 100% canon. However, it's unclear whether they are still canon. You are correct that both Daredevil and Kingpin have appeared and for the most part tie in perfectly with the Netflix shows (other than Kingpin seeming to be alot stronger...but he may have gotten a shot of the super soldier serum after DD S3).
But that doesn't mean the Netflix shows are still canon...it just means they haven't been contradicted at this point. I think we need to wait for DD: Born Again to come out before we get a 100% confirmation that the shows are still canon. So I have left them out for now until we see Jessica Jones and Luke Cage appear again. My hope is all the Netflix shows are canon, but I suspect Marvel will keep dragging their feet about an answer for as long as they can.
Anyway, great comments. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts. I love the dialogue with other MCU fans!
Do you think you’re gonna ever make a video looking at the different sectors and stories happening in them in the MCU? (Like cosmic, street level, supernatural etc)
I think that's a good idea. At this point, some of them are still gelling, particularly supernatural and street level, but I really like that idea for a video. Thanks for the encouragement to make it happen. I really appreciate it!
@@AbitofEverything4U no problem! I actually had this thought from another comment on this video so I’m sure other people would be interested in it
@@awesomeobliterated8890 Yeah, I do think it will be a cool video. I love that the MCU has so many different sectors. It's what keeps things so interesting!
I'd like to believe that we'll see Nakia in Avengers: Kang Dynasty after Wakanda Forever yet at the same time I feel like her duties as a mother to T'Challa II will make an appearance from her in Kang Dynasty unlikely. I doubt her son will have aged much either by the time Kang Dynasty rolls around. So I think her commitments as a mother may keep her from joining the Avengers in Kang Dynasty. Who knows though. She may still find a way to somehow defend Wakanda from Kang's variants in a way where she doesn't have to travel too far from her home in Haiti.
Yes, that's a great point. Now that she's a mom, we likely won't see her again for abit. Will be great to catch up with her whenever she returns!
I think Shang Chi might show up in the Marvels as well. Seeing as the Ten Rings apparently are related to Kamala's bangle and Carol also being present at the end of his movie. If not, I think the rings at least are mentioned? Seems weird to no highlight their connection before Kang Dynasty
Yes, I think that's a great idea. That connection is going to be really important, so maybe Captain Marvel notices it and that brings the storylines together. Love that theory!
Really great video 👍
Thanks! Appreciate the positive feedback!
Dang, you missed an opportunity to include Peter 2 and 3. I am very confident we'll see them in Secret Wars, mostly because of how well No Way Home was received.
Ah, didn't think of them, but yeah they are official MCU canon now. Excellent point. And I suspect we see them again in Secret Wars!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Wong appears before Lang dynasty just cause he’s been appearing in so many different things like obviously doctor strange and he also appears in like she hulk and shangchi
Would love to see Wong anytime they can fit him in. And he should bring Madysinn along too!
Forgot about Sif, Variant Loki, and Sylvie. Also, can't wait for the Fantastic Four and Adam Warlock to be introduced... as well as rumored shows like Nova, Silver Surfer, and Wonder Man. Avengers: Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars will be epic!
Great comments. I definitely forgot Sif. She rocks! I'm not sure what to do with Variant Loki. Not sure he's heroic yet, but he's definitely on his way. And regarding Sylvie, I think she would classify as a villain at this point as she selfishly killed He Who Remains and as a result created the chaos of the multiverse. Not that I wouldn't have considered killing HWR if I was in that situation, but I still suspect she's not in the hero category yet.
As for all those new heroes you mention...totally excited about them. We are getting some great new additions in Phase 5 and 6. I suspect we won't get quite as many new heroes as we got in Phase 4, but still some awesome new additions coming. And it will make both of the new Avengers films all the more incredible. Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I really appreciate hearing what other MCU fans are thinking!
I can't believe you forgot about Pip, who's with the Eternals and Starfox. Unforgivable.
Speaking of which, the stage is set for a Beta Ray Bill movie or Disney+ special. All the characters who appear in his 2021 comic mini-series have now been introduced in the MCU (minus Bill), and I'd love to see that story adapted.
Too funny! Actually, the CGI for Pip ... now THAT was unforgivable. Ugh. But yeah, I should probably include him. I guess he's a super hero. He kinda seems like a companion (ala Happy Hogan, Katy, Ned Leeds, etc). But I should likely add him.
And yes, we so need a Beta Ray Bill movie/special. They've been teasing him for too long. Time to deliver on that, Marvel!
@@AbitofEverything4U yes he looked quite bad XD
And also, I just thought it was funny that Patton Oswalt has technically played six different characters in the MCU now. Granted, I never watched Agents of Shield past season 2, so I never saw most of those appearances.
@@B1gBoyPants Patton Oswalt is the man! Dude gets around. Would be so much fun to chat with him over dinner. But he's hilarious!
Your channel is really picking up steam, I wonder how long it takes you to read all of the comments. Any way, good video!
Thanks! Yep, it does take alot of time to read all the comments, but have really found it valuable, so it's worth it in the end. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback!
When do you think we will se the first trailer for gotg 3?
I hope we get it early in 2023. Definitely it will be included as a trailer when Quantumania plays in theatres. Can't wait!
Only thing I disagree with is Eternals’ year. Ajak says “5 years ago thanos erased half of the population of the universe” (which happened in 2018 ) making it the year 2023 when she said that. But that was also a flashback like a week before she died so unless this takes place at the ass end of 2023/2024 I would say it’s 2023. But I love the video and you put so much hard work in I can tell.
Thanks for the kind words about the video. I appreciate it!
And you bring up a topic that has been a crazy mess for quite some time: the Eternals timeline placement. I did a video on it, but I'll mention a few of the key points here.
- One of the only indications of the time of year for present day in the movie is a pumpkin on display at Phastos' home. It appears to be carved, so that would imply late October.
- There is an ad for the GRC that is seen very early in the movie. The fact that a global government entity is up and running makes it seem like some time has passed since everyone returned from the blip. It's hard to imagine an agency like that could get going until well into 2024.
- Disney+ places Eternals in their timeline after Shang Chi, meaning it is sometime in 2024 after April or even July (depending on where people place that movie).
- Producer Nate Moore said that Eternals happens around the time of Spiderman: Far From Home, placing it in mid to late 2024 as that movie is in the June/July 2024 timeframe.
- Sprite refers to Steve as "Captain Rogers" but calls Tony "Iron Man", which makes it seem like this is after Sam became Captain America in Falcon and the Winter Soldier which is why Sprite couldn't call Steve Captain America
So all of those things seem to place it in October of 2024.
On the flip side, there are the two things you mentioned that make the end of 2023 sound better:
- The flashback of Ajak's death clearly places her death a week before present day in the movie
- Right before Ajak's death she says that humanity returned from Thanos' snap 5 years ago and of course the snap happened in 2018 so 2023 seems like present day in the movie. However, it is worth noting that Ajak is an Eternal so the difference between 5 and 6 years is like a millisecond to her. So she may have rounded 6 years to 5 simply because it is an irrelevant difference to her.
Anyway, it's one of those movies that is a real mess from a timeline standpoint, but I personally like the D+ placement in Oct of 2024.
Thanks again for watching the video and sharing your thoughts. I really appreciate it!
I feel that ms. Marvel might appear in secret invasion, since it’s marked as a crossover series and She’s the most connected to Nick Fury. Maybe we’ll see some others too since it’s “crossover” but not sure what to expect.
I also predict that Shang chi 2 will be before Kang dynasty, as there was a rumor for Shang chi and the wreckage of time movie. That movie sounds like it could include the multiverse and lead into a movie like Kang dynasty or secret wars, so that’s why I think that
I'd be down with that. Would be cool to see her in that series. Can't wait for it to come out!
Moon Knight, Werewolf by Night, Elsa Bloodstone, Man-Thing, Blade, and Black Knight in a Midnight Sons team up would be cool! 🔥
Can't wait! Should be such an awesome team!
1. Shang Chi's friend Katy is considered a hero as well. Trained by a Ta Lo master archer, fought 10 rings henchmen and dark dimension demons, then summoned by Wong. San Francisco and May appear in SC2
2. Kate Bishop i think is still training with Hawkeye and will aid Laura Barton when she re-emerges as Agent 19 aka Mockingbird. May appear in Armor Wars.
3. Kamran is in Pakistan training with the Red Daggers. May appear in Ms Marvel Season 2.
4. Sylvie is in the Land at the end of time and will reappear in Loki Season 2.
5. Moonknight in London and will meet Sprite somewhere in England, but Layla/Scarlett Scarab stayed in Egypt. Will reappear in Moonknight Season 2.
6. Ned Leeds at MIT but will be called to Kamar Taj to train with Dr Strange. MJ will meet up with Riri Williams and appear in Ironheart.
7. Maria Hill and Nick Fury, in Europe somewhere hiding out. Appearing in Secret Invasion.
8. There are 2 Midnight Angels, both in the borders of Wakanda. Nakia, a formidable fighter with her ringed blades in Haiti with her son.
9. Pepper Potts upstate New York being a mum but still has access to the Ironman suits.
10. Elsa Bloodstone still at Bloodstone castle making it her home again.
11. Hercules will first step foot in Greece most likely in Thor 5.
12. Isaiah Bradley will have an encounter with the Red Guardian. Maybe in Thunderbolts.
13. Lady Sif on New Asgard training fighters. Will be in Thor 5.
14. Ikarus returns to the Domo to help Thena and co to find Sersi, Kingo and Phastos
15. Namor in Talocan, returning in a cameo of Midnight Angels.
16. Everything else sounds accurate.
Wow! Great feedback. Love the status updates. I was torn on whether to consider the people like Katy, Ned, Pepper, even Happy for that matter. They don't really have powers and while they have helped the heroes, they almost deserve a video focusing specifically on partners for the heroes. I do think I should perhaps include Korg, however, as he went to battle on the bridge in Ragnarok.
Some of the characters you mention I didn't include in this video but they are in the State of Villainy video as I don't consider them heroes quite yet. Namor and Ikaris in particular. So you might check out that video as well, if you get a chance.
Again, thanks so much for watching and sharing all your comments. Love the dialogue with other MCU fans!
Oh yes, Korg. Same accent as myself lolz. Ill head over and watch. Awesome video btw, thanks
@@ropatatrotman Love Korg! Such a great character!
I really want a series where it is just Sprite learning to cope with life without powers and growing up
Yes, that would be very interesting to see how she copes with being human. Perhaps Eternals 2 will touch on it, but I agree that a D+ series on it might be fun to watch as well. Thanks for watching the video and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
I’m very disappointed you couldn’t pin the exact date we last saw Hawkeye lmfao. December 25 the most obvious holiday as well.
LOL! Okay, that did make me laugh. Yes, Hawkeye was most definitely last seen on Dec 25th! I was just in the zone of going month and year only, but I suspect that date is a pretty safe assumption, eh? Thanks so much for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!
very curious to see where moonknight and america chavez where appear next i really want to see them again soon
Yes, Phase 5 will have a tricky task ahead of finding a way to give us time with all the new heroes, but I hope they find a way to make it happen sooner than later. Great comments!
I think a doctor strange movie might happen before kang dynasty. I came up with this because to me it kinda makes since and they could do something similar like with thor 3 where in the end credits thanos attacked Thor's ship and i could see something similar happening in the 3rd doctor strange movie but with kang attacking and capturing doctor strange then in the beginning of kang dynasty it picks up right after it.
It certainly would be nice to have a Dr. Strange 3 before Kang Dynasty. If they can fit it in, then I am all for it. Really liked MoM and I suspect part 3 will be even better!
I miss Steve Rogers on your list. He may be retiered but he is not dead. Hulk can deage him anytime and he can hop back into action... 😄
Yeah, I just wish they would tell us what happened to Steve. Since it's been just over 2 years since Endgame happened in the MCU, perhaps he finally died. It's just weird they let him walk off, never to be heard from again. As for whether Hulk can de-age him, that's an interesting thought. We really don't know the ramifications of that, since when it happened to Ant-Man they fixed it before we knew if anything bad might result from it. But it certainly is an interesting thought. Thanks so much for watching and sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
@@AbitofEverything4U I mean the whole time traveling Steve would deserve a movie or series and how the TVA and Kang would react to that. There could be a reason why he makes Sam a Cap. Maybe he hides on a secret stealth mission just to come out of nowhere in Kang Dynasty and surprises everyone because Sam has the predestined Captain America position...
I go for the old rule: Not dead until you see the body (or serious mention).
@@cedrickterrick Oh, I would LOVE a special presentation on Steve and the time traveling. I would be so down for that. And they could address where he is now as well. Please, Marvel, give us that story!
Wong is rumored to appear in Agatha series
Oh wow! Now that makes total sense. Really hope that happens!
Hi I rlly like the effort u put into this video! How abt korg
Thanks so much for the kind words and positive feedback. And yes, my sincere apologies to good ol' Korg. I left him off by accident. He fully deserves to be standing alongside the other heroes. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your feedback!
@@AbitofEverything4U no problem and it's ok! I rlly like ur content. It's genuine and interesting. Keep it up!
Thanks! : )
Amazing video
Thanks so much!
Love the group shot giving me a smash bros choose your character vibe
Nice! Yeah, it is fun to see the group shot. Crazy how many active heroes we have in the MCU
Was the ending of Dr. Strange ( when he grew a third eye) a different Dr. Strange?
Because the end credit scene when he met Clea he was wearing different clothing? I think the ending and the end credits showed two different Stephen Strange.
Interesting theory. I can see that potentially being the case. Now I really want Dr. Strange 3 to come out so we can get a resolution to that mystery 3rd eye. Thanks for sharing that theory. I'll do some research on it as you definitely have me curious.
Why isn’t White Vision in the “phase 1-3” section? Isn’t that the OG vision?
Ah, now that's an interesting point. Yeah, I guess it sorta is. Nice call!
I have a feeling that we'll see America Chavez again before Kang Dynasty, possibly in a Young Avengers series!
No complaints at all if that happens. She was a highlight of Phase 4 and it will be great to see her again. Thanks for watching and sharing your theories. Really appreciate it!
What about the Pet Avengers? Lucky the Dog, Goose the Flerkin Cat, The Frog Thor, New Falcon’s falcon, throw in Lockjaw maybe? Lol
Niiiiiiiiice. I'm all in!
Did you hear that the next thor appearance will most likely be chris hemsworth's final mcu film?
I've had trouble discerning exactly what he was saying, tbh. I know he wants a major tone shift from L&T and also that he is fine with his character ending his story. But I couldn't tell if he was okay with doing another avengers film (Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars or both) and then ending with Thor 5 or just wanted to do 1 more film period. But I definitely think we are seeing the end of his character soon.
if young avengers comes out before kang dynasty then i could see hawkeye showing up in that, as well as some other older avengers
Great point! Yes, I agree with that. Hoping they get Young Avengers on the slate soon!
Where are the other Defenders, Punisher, and the Agents of Shield?
That is such a difficult question. I did a video on the pre-Disney+ shows and whether they are still canon or not. They were definitely canon when they were first released, but the fact that D+ doesn't put them in the official timeline is concerning. I am waiting until we get 100% confirmation that those pre-D+ shows are still considered 616 canon.
Hopefully the Echo series and for sure the DD: Born Again series will answer it once and for all. If I were to hazard a guess at this point, I suspect we won't see Iron Fist again and that will cause alot of questions about the shows. But I do hope they keep as much of the shows being canon as possible.
Hope that helps. I don't think there is a firm answer at this point. Anyway, really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts. Thanks so much!
This really has nothing to do with this video but I was thinking about kang dynasty and all thy really need is scarlet witch. Which makes me so incredibly nervous that they’re depower her
Interesting point. I hope they don't have to depower her, but you are right, she may end up being super OP after she gets her powers under control. I suspect we will see her next in Agatha's series and maybe we'll get an answer there.
no they don't kang can just go into the pass and kill her as a baby
@@IronheartvsMiles I am really hoping they somehow limit how Kang can time travel. I really prefer the endgame rules that create a branch if you travel back in time meaning your past can't change your future. That said, the Ms. Marvel's time travel seemingly broke that rule, but it did it via a "closed loop" time travel scenario vs. a "completely re-writing the future" time travel scenario. Because if Kang can just go back and kill everyone, then there is seemingly no way to defeat him. But I guess we'll have to see what Marvel has in store. I suspect we will learn alot in Quantumania.
I think there's a good chance Monica is in secret invasion.
There are no slots left before Kang Dynasty. But I think Eternals 2 will be between Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars, as one of those 3 movies.
I think MoM's credits scene with Clea is at an ambiguous time. He seems fine with his 3rd eye after just screaming about it
I also think Moon Knight s2 will be spring 2025, just before Kang Dynasty. If not, then definitely later in phase 6
I'll actually be annoyed if Shang-Chi doesn't show up again until Kang Dynasty. That's 3 1/2 years. Ridiculous.
I don't recall the info that Alexei was blipped? Was that mentioned by Yelena in Hawkeye? On stage by David Harbour?
Great comments. I agree on the need for Eternals 2, Dr. Strange 3, Moon Knight S2 and Shang Chi 2. I hope they can find slots for all of those prior to Secret Wars, if not before Kang Dynasty. Of course, that's the trouble with so many heroes. It's hard to give them all ample time. But Marvel's been doing great so far, so I'm sure they can make it all work.
As for Alexei, I'm just assuming that he was blipped due to him not getting together with Black Widow during the the 5-year period. I guess he could have been around, but it would be weird if she didn't reconnect during those difficult years. Just my 2 cents though. I could very well be wrong on that.
Technically it’s only 2 1/2 years until kang dynasty
@@Edge439 Right! The date is May 2, 2025, unless they shift back the timing abit to give them some breathing room.
With this thumbnail I though it was a dame dane compilation
LOL! Yes, I can definitely see that!
What about the state of villainy?
Coming up next. Will be ready in a day or two at most. Slowly closing out Phase 4 one video at a time!
@@AbitofEverything4U okay
@@srstriker6420 Thanks for asking!
10:58 Marvel will always find a way to insert Wong into the MCU
Amen to that. We need more Wong in our lives!
I think Kate is going to be in Echo not Quantumania but we'll. Excited for CCXP And Hope to get trailers for: What If Season 2, Loki Season 2, Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3, Ironheart, The Marvels.
Ah, yes, could imagine Kate showing up in Echo. Great point. And I can't wait to hear the news out of CCXP. Should be some great stuff!
@@AbitofEverything4U Hope to get Echo Trailer And Young Avengers Announcement At CCXP With Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3 Trailer, Loki Season 2 Trailer, What If Season 2 Trailer.
@@louisberry4403 Fingers crossed!
@@AbitofEverything4U Hope to also get The Flash Trailer, Star Wars: Visions Season 2 Trailer, Ahsoka Trailer, Indy 5 Trailer, The Marvels Trailer.
@@louisberry4403 Yeah, there is a ton of cool Star Wars stuff coming next year. And I forgot about The Flash. I assume DC is at CCXP?
where do you think Ross will end up after Okoye breaks him out after WF?
He's in Secret Invasion. Of course, he might be a skrull in that show and in that case I don't know.
Good question. I suspect he will appear next in Secret Invasion. He seemed to be on the run in the trailers for that series. Should be a great D+ show!
@@maestrogeicho I've been hearing that the show takes place in the 5 year gap during endgame (I could be wrong) but if that is the case, where would he go after his escape?
I think that some of Secret Invasion will be during the 5-year blip and some will be present day. At least that's what I've heard.
Dr. Strange is going to appear in his 4th film, you said 5, before Kang Dynasty
Ugh...I did indeed say that wrong. Nice catch!
You mean 3rd
Good point!
I am confused about white vision, will he remember everything that happened to the real vision
He already does I think
That's the million dollar question, isn't it? I think the vision that Wanda created inside the hex did end up unlocking some of the White Vision's memories but it will be interesting to see how that all works out. I'm really excited to see him appear again so we can get that answered once and for all.
@@AbitofEverything4U If he gains memory back, will he gain the memory of the vision inside the hex or the vision that was killed by Thanos
@@valysheev Agreed...I think he got them from hex Vision.
@@Top51828 I think the Hex Vision unlocked White Vision's original memories (so everything up to being killed by Thanos) but it didn't restore his emotions. So he is a blank slate in that regard.
i think eternals 2 has been announced for november 2024 but im not sure
The TVA is technically outside the sacred timeline, it isn't anywhen or any time. And i think the show said the void was past the sacred timeline, a part of reality that has not yet been writen by the time keepers (kang)
Tommy and Billy maximoff where created with the soul fragments of the demon Mephisto, and with the latest casting of Sacha Baron Cohen as Mephisto (who will probably make a small cameo in Ironheart as the person who gave "The Hood", the rumoured villain of the show, his powers) it looks like the mcu is going down that story line. And i think agatha traped their souls in the darkholed (and thanks to wanda destroying the darkholed, their souls have been released and will then be reborn and Tommy Shepherd and Billy Kaplan in coven of chaos
It's confermed the scarlet witch is still alive, also in the comics her powers are so strong that if she's not always in control she could easyly whipe out a continent (or so ive heard idk if they are really that strong) so her powers probably acted for their selves to save wanda, because there is no way the nexus of the multiverse, most powerfull person their is, dies to a falling building. Also i think wandvision is coming back for a season 2 as like an animated series of something so we will probs see her their, and olsen herself said she wasn't in ACOC but she would love to be in it
White vision is coming back in his own Disney plus show "Vision Quest"
They never actually said where clint barton's farm was. Hawkeye wanted it to be a secret, kevin feige kept it a secret
Hulk being in CANWO Would make sence, specifically because of the casting of Shira Haas as "Sabra" since her first appearence in the comics was fighting Bruce Baner when he landed in Israel and hulked out
I personally think shang-chi 2 will release befor kang dynasty but, its release hasn't been announced, so we will saddly have to wait
It makes sence for kate bishop to make a small appearce in A-MATWQ because in the comics they are really close friends i think, and they are in the same team, so if she doen't appear as just her friend, then maybe in the post credit scene she will appear and say "we are putting together a team, wanna join?" and thats how The Younge Avengers start to form (i dont think kate would be the one to set it up, but maybe America Chavez or Billy Kaplan and they just asked kate to go recrewt her)
Great comments! Thanks so much for all the terrific commentary. I'll throw in a few thoughts:
- Eternals 2: Didn't realize it was announced, but I'm all for it. Can't wait!
- TVA/Void: It sure seems like it is outside of time. However, He Who Remains wasn't completely honest so I guess I'm open to learning just about anything in Loki S2
- Tommy and Billy: Absolutely LOVE your theory. That would be very cool!
- Wanda: Yes, I firmly believe Wanda is alive, but until she shows up again, I guess it's all just rumor. But I am 100% sure she is alive. No way they kill her and your points about her powers make perfect sense.
- White Vision: Not sure if VisionQuest comes out before or after Wonder Man, but I agree, we will see Vision in both. Should be great!
- Hawkeye's farm: The wiki lists it as Iowa, but you could be right that it was never stated in the movies/D+ shows
- Sabra: Yes, I do suspect she will be a mutant. Kinda funny we are getting all of these random mutants rather the the X-men. But I like the slow build
- Shang Chi 2: Would love it to come out before Kang Dynasty, but it might be tough to fit in it.
Again, fantastic comments. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. Love the dialogue with other MCU fans!
@@AbitofEverything4U thank you so much
I forgot about Loki season 2 lol and I think sabra is a mutant in the comics, but I'm not really sure what her powers are, I think it's like finger guns or something (and I think she has some sort of regenerative healing power)
Also, I heard a rumour about making a Hercules project, but due to Disney making a live action Hercules soon they are going to try and mix the movies so that it's just 1 Hercules instead of 2 (but I hope they don't because they would probably try to make Hercules too childish for a marvel project)
Oh my, I agree with you. I don't want them to combine the two Hercules. That would not end up going well!
Eternals 2 has been talked about but definitely not for November 24, 2024 is already packed
@@BaloonBoy7 Agreed...would likely be a different date. But I do hope we see it happen.
I don't know if this is a question you'd ever field, but: If they weren't willing to give that position to Moon Knight (MAN was THAT a missed opportunity), who is Marvel going to designate their "Florida Man"? Punisher, maybe?
Oh wow...not sure I have a good suggestion for that. I assume Moon Knight was your first choice with Punisher being second choice?
What about Cosmo and Katy?
Great comments! So with Cosmo, I wasn't sure if she would be going into battle and fighting with the Guardians or would just be hanging around Knowhere and helping fix it up. But if she shows up in Guardians 3 and helps them, I will definitely add her to the list.
On Katy, I wasn't sure what to do with the non super powered friends that help out. I could add Ned from the Spider-Man films and Happy and Pepper from the Iron Man films, etc, but it might get crazy after awhile. I wonder if I should do a "partners" video featuring all the people that have helped the heroes in their adventures?
Anyway, really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@AbitofEverything4U hi could u do the video? I'd love to watch it! :D
@@sethchee1897 Thanks! Yes, I suspect it would be a popular topic!
It’s definitely implied that captain marvel and ms marvel swapped places, making ms marvels location most likely somewhere in space - not in New Jersey.
Right...definitely agree that the end-credit scene will happen eventually. The current location was where I think each hero is at the end of 2025 (i.e. the end of Phase 4) and I am betting that the end-credit scene with the switch hasn't happened at that point. It happens while she's still in school, but it is likely near the end of her Junior year and well into 2026, which makes it right around the time that The Marvels comes out. Sorry for making that confusing. I probably didn't explain it very well in the video. But thanks for watching and sharing your feedback. I really appreciate it!
i feel like if we get thor 5 it’ll be after secret wars and that’ll be his final chapter
Yep, that's my take as well. I think we next see him in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars and then his story ends in Thor 5. Good call!
64 heroes jeez
Craziness!
New drinking game idea
For the new State of Villainy video take a shot for every time A Bit of Everything says the word Thunderbolts
Oh man, make sure you aren't planning to drive anytime soon afterwards because that's gonna be a long hangover after that drinking game!
@@AbitofEverything4U blood alcohol Poisoning awaits
@@travisrose9716 Indeed!
Wong could apper in Thunderbolts
That would be great if we got Wong in Thunderbolts. More Wong always makes me happy!
We’re getting the Xmen and fantastic four and deadpool and wolverine too so yeah
Right! With all the heroes we already have and the new ones coming, it's going to be quite an impressive line-up!
2018 for red guardian? Black Widow takes place right after civil war in 2016
Oh my, great catch! I think you're the first to notice that. I'll definitely get it fixed before the next update. Thanks for pointing that out!
I think Jane Foster, of all the characters, needs to stay dead. Not only is her whole arc one of the best things about that movie, but I feel like trivialising something as serious as cancer is a bad move for Marvel, and it's not like they really need her.
I'd also quite like Wanda to stay dead, I'm honestly pretty tired of her. The fact that she keeps doing pretty heinous stuff and never gets meaningfully held to account for it really irritated me, especially after Wandavision where, frankly, she crossed a line.
I agree, I would be okay with Jane Foster staying in Valhalla with that being the end of her character arc. She came back in the comics, but I feel it really cheapens things to have her come back. And I understand your sentiment with Wanda. I think we will see her again, but she has a looooooong way to go to come back from all she's done. Great comments!
No there are tones of people who want to see Wanda back. There are many people who have related to her in Wandavision atleast
@@apoorvsingh4459 Agreed...I am excited to see her again and I ranked WandaVision as my #1 entry in Phase 4. But I do think it's going to be tough for her to get past all that has happened in WandaVision and especially in Multiverse of Madness. So I'm hoping Marvel handles her return well. Lot riding on it!
@@AbitofEverything4U yes hopefully she gets a good redemption arc! Wandavision is my #1 show as well
@@apoorvsingh4459 Yeah, it was fantastic!
what about madisynn?
I love Madisynn! I didn't include her here, though, as I was focusing on the superheroes. But I sooooo want to see her back again with Wong (aka Wongers). Such a great couple!
@@AbitofEverything4U bro she carried episode 4
@@conman_yt7999 Totally! She was so great. I loved every minute of her appearance!
Korg and Meik?😢
Interesting...I guess I thought of Korg and Meik more as companions as they haven't gone into battle per se. I would likely have to include Katy from Shang Chi, Ned from the Spidey films, and Pepper and Happy from the Iron Man movies if I include Korg and Meik. But I do love them both...they are awesome! Maybe I need to do a video solely on all of the companions that help the heroes. There are so many great supporting characters. Thoughts? Thanks so much for watching and sharing your feedback. Really appreciate it!
A video of all the supporting characters would be a great idea!
@@qqqqqqqqq4607 Agreed!
Where is Nick Fury?
Ah, great catch. He's been gone so long I forgot to include him and Maria Hill. Excellent feedback. Thanks so much for watching!
really refreshing to see a Marvel video in my recommendations that isn't "Marvel is doomed and broken and sucks oh woe" for once
Thanks! Yeah, I respect that people have their own opinions about the MCU and Phase 4, but I liked it overall. Certainly some rough spots, but lots of fantastic content as well. And I'm really excited as we move into Phase 5. Hope you enjoy the video. Thanks for watching!
Small mistake: When you are talking about Dr. Strange and Clea, you say "Doctor Strange 5" instead of "Doctor Strange 3".
Excellent catch! I can't believe I missed that. You definitely win an award for attention to detail. Really appreciate you watching the vid and sharing your feedback!
@@AbitofEverything4U Thanks for the compliment! I think you said DS5 because you were talking about Thor 5 a little before that. You put so much effort and detail in your videos so it doesn’t surprise me that no one else caught it.
@@MegaDudeman21 Appreciate your kind words!
You missed Cosmo
Yeah, I wasn't sure if Cosmo felt she should be included yet. Wonder if she considers herself combat ready? : )
You are probably right, though. I will definitely include her in the video update when we get deeper into Phase 5. Great suggestion!
Wong appeared in like half of Phase 4 ain’t no way he is absent until Kang Dynasty
That would be awesome, if so. My life needs more Wong and Madysinn!
Cool 😎.
Thanks!
My personally favourite new hero of MCU is Kate Bishop
What fantastic casting for Kate and such a great entrance into the MCU. Can't wait to see her appear again. Really appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!