I had a similar problem a couple of years ago. Our laundry room is right above the layout and one day a wash was being done, the vibration of the washing machine caused the container of detergent to fall to the floor and split open. When discovered about a half gallon of detergent had leaked out. It found a crack in the floor that allowed the soap to leak down onto the layout. I was able to rinse off the scenery and get rid of the suds, but it will still foam if I do any more rinsing. Very nice layout, Will look forward to seeing the fix.
You have the coolest layout, awesome locomotives, and awesome scenery. Great video. Sux about the damage but even if you didn't fix it your layout is still awesome.
I subscribed, I'm from BC and don't have space for a layout so I live vicariously through youtuber layouts. I love seeing one that models our area of the country.
Sorry to hear about the bad luck Grant. The downside to being in the basement. I had a close call a couple years ago where a jug of liquid tide fell off the dryer on its side, busted the nozzle off and flooded the laundry room floor. It poured into a nearby vent and then down onto one of my reverse loops. Luckily, it was still under construction at that time and wasn't fully loaded with trains. Good on you for looking at the dishwasher incident as an opportunity to improve the scene. I look forward to see what you do with it! Have a great summer. -Ben
I was almost thinking “what damage?” Until you started poking the layout. Wouldn’t have been so bad if you didn’t have the track and clearance issues. Glad you have a plan to fix. I remember reading about a modeller who had a similar situation and because he paid attention and replicated the culverts and drainage that the prototype did, when the water leak happened, all the water drained through the layout’s culverts and onto the floor and then into the floor drain. I can’t help but think he had similar damage to his scenery. Take care Grant, see ya at the next Ops, whenever that happens.
Thinking we might have to have an op session with a slow order before the track gets fixed Jon. Yah the first flood when the house still had Poly-B piping ended up landing in the lake and all the water ran under the bridges and off the edge of the layout. That seems like a lifetime ago... long before this layout was built. Cheers Pal!
Very sorry to hear about your leaking dishwasher and the damage it caused on the layout. Nevertheless, I sincerely appreciate your stance on this situation, which you take as an opportunity for improvement, rather than a setback. Aren’t familiar with many North American dishwasher models, know more about European models. Have seen a lot of damage over the years especially from built-in models and inaccessible drain hoses. Don’t know if you have access to a drain for your dishwasher in the basement? As the main issue with dishwashers often is that they’re placed as low as possible for ergonomic reasons. This almost always entails for the drain hose to be connected up to a higher point in the drain under the sink. However, when the possibility exist to connect to a lower situated connection, then the hose will be emptied after every dishwashing circle. This will significantly increase the longevity of the flexible connection. Which in most cases remains filled with the organic waste and detergents, which can truly affect the consistency of those hoses. Cheerio
Thanks for your comments Vincent. I try to treat setbacks as "do-overs". We don't necessarily learn from success but rather from failure. I appreciate your insight on the dishwasher drain hose. I hit the basement this morning after reading your comment... to plan on where to drop the drain hose through the floor and tie it into the main drain line!! Great idea that I'm sure not many think of. Cheers. -grant
Grant, Sorry to hear you had problems'. Great that you aren't distancing yourself from the problems' and heading into them with a plan. Saw you guest hosting on The Second Section Podcast. I feel as you do that there is way too much emphasis on the underbody details; most (99%) will not see them! I think if they focus (as you do and others') on the mechanism and the details that count the $ / unit will drop, thus, introducing more to well running models for the beginners in the hobby; increasing the retention factor. Take care.
Can't fix a problem unless you confront it Colin as I'm sure you well know!! I appreciate your comments on the podcast and your takeaway from it. You've hit the nail on the head. Give people a reliable product first to mitigate the frustration factor. Most of us got into the hobby during a time when detail parts were a thing and you could dress up your locomotives to your hearts desire. The key being the base model was decent quality to begin and we didn't end up with shelf queens. Cheers. -grant
To be honest, I was expecting worse visual damage. I would have considered gluing the raised edges and rescenicing the repair as a start but understand you wanting to just remove, inspect and replace. Look forward to the upcoming repairs/changes. I must say the rock face wash does look good, though!
Because of the curling I would have top re-soak the Celluclay to soften it and then it wouldn't bond. Best to tear out the affected area and start over. Shouldn't be too bad once I find some time to get at it. Cheers!
Certainly could have been worse. Here in Alberta we tend to measure summer in weeks instead of months so I'll be at it sooner rather than later!! Cheers. -grant
Really, do you relly need to do all those changes/repairs as it looks fine to me and if anything glue the scenery back on the rocks, paint the overhead, and it appears the train runs fine over the track. All looks great to me.
The track is fine for a MOW train but the kink is noticeable when longer cars pass through. It will be better when the changes are made I promise!! I appreciate your input. Cheers. -grant
Haha... There would be too much swearing! I think this place was designed and built by monkeys. It's no longer a re-modelling project but more of a rebuild. I'll show you guys what I'm up to one of these days soon.
You'd think builders would have figured out something to prevent something like that from happening. Maybe, something like the catch pan under the washer with a drain, so it wouldn't overflow that and prevent an ecological disaster. At any rate Grant, chalk one up to another Life experience! Cheers 🍻 and Happy Trails!
This presented the opportunity to show my son how dishes used to be done when I was his age!! You know back when we all walked to school... up hill both ways in a blinding snow storm.........
Good day friend, hows everything going with the layout????? Any up coming videos it has been a few months since last update, can't wait to see what is to come!!!!!
Been a busy summer V. Hoping to get into the basement in the next few weeks. I'll post an update vid for channel members on what I've been up to over the summer soon.
Ok honestly I was expecting more visible damage. But on the other side, who knows what lies beneath the scenery... 😐 Fortunately you use 3/4 plywood if my memory serves me well so this is sturdy. MDF likes to sucks water in, expands, and then it's done... Is the kink inside or outside the curve ? Can't really tell from the angle in the vid. Seems like the glue didn't survive the soak... Have a great summer and take care Grant 😊😉
Track pulled inward on the curve. Shouldn't be any damage to the sub roadbed because of the plywood. I remember seeing someone using MDF as roadbed and cringed!! It will suck up water for sure.
Had a pipe break on the last layout so this is pretty minor in the big picture. Still a wee touch frustrating but will come out on the other side looking better. Cheers! -grant
Hey Grant. Do you have any Freight Cars painted in your road on your layout? I ask because I would like to paint some up for my layout as if they made it here from yours.
Most home road cars are patched and are in captive service. I do have cement cars that might make an appearance offline. I'll find a picture and send it your way.
Maybe someone can help me. I recently discovered this channel. The trackplan is in the November 21 issue. But unfortunately it is not available on their homepage. Not even the digital version. Greetings from Austria.
I'm going to try to get a track plan into the next layout tour. The one in RMC is now out of date anyway. The whole west end of the layout has changed since the article was published. Cheers. -grant
The fires are north of me so we only have to deal with the smoke. We've had some wet weather which is helping with the overall situation. Thanks for asking. -grant
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I had a similar problem a couple of years ago. Our laundry room is right above the layout and one day a wash was being done, the vibration of the washing machine caused the container of detergent to fall to the floor and split open. When discovered about a half gallon of detergent had leaked out. It found a crack in the floor that allowed the soap to leak down onto the layout. I was able to rinse off the scenery and get rid of the suds, but it will still foam if I do any more rinsing. Very nice layout, Will look forward to seeing the fix.
Whoa that would be a real mess to clean up!! Your layout always smells spring fresh now though I bet... Cheers. -grant
This looks so realistic! Beautiful!
Thank you! Cheers! Be sure to check out some of my other vids that don't start off with a minor catastrophe!!
It's great that you have such a positive attitude towards an otherwise bad situation.
Thanks. I find most setbacks lead to opportunities elsewhere. Cheers! -grant
Beautiful train layout. Love these train layout so Just Subscribed. 🥰
Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for the update, beautiful work as always. Take care.
Thanks, you too!
Your layout is an artwork! Great realistic details... I love it! Enjoy it! 😊
Thanks so much! 😊
You're models are lovely i hope it all gets sorted 👍..
Very fortunate, indeed. Water, the giver of life, can be terribly destructive! Looking forward to seeing your fix. Love your layout!
Thanks 👍
You have the coolest layout, awesome locomotives, and awesome scenery. Great video. Sux about the damage but even if you didn't fix it your layout is still awesome.
Thank you very much! It'll look better after the fixes! -grant
good update, thanks.
Wished I had some progress to show!!
I subscribed, I'm from BC and don't have space for a layout so I live vicariously through youtuber layouts. I love seeing one that models our area of the country.
Thanks for subbing up!
@@SouthernAlbertaRail Sometimes the Algorithm provides.
Sorry to hear about the bad luck Grant. The downside to being in the basement. I had a close call a couple years ago where a jug of liquid tide fell off the dryer on its side, busted the nozzle off and flooded the laundry room floor. It poured into a nearby vent and then down onto one of my reverse loops. Luckily, it was still under construction at that time and wasn't fully loaded with trains. Good on you for looking at the dishwasher incident as an opportunity to improve the scene. I look forward to see what you do with it! Have a great summer. -Ben
That would be a sticky mess to deal with Ben. Lucky it was early in the construction phase. Enjoy the week or two of summer!!
Just went through the same thing with my dishwasher. Lucky for us no damage.
Big pain in the butt to be sure. Glad you made out with no damage. -grant
Whoa . . . that sucks. Sorry to see that. On the other hand, I am sure you will re-landscape something very special. 😁Cheers ~ Boomer.
Always an opportunity for improvement Boomer. Really appreciate you passing my name on to Andy. Had a blast on the Second Section Podcast. -grant
Wow! I really like your work. It just suck sometimes the things that happen in Life. I look forward to your future videos
Have to take the bad to appreciate the good! Thanks for watching and we'll see you next time. -grant
Very sorry for the water damage . Your scenery is a work of art !
Thank you very much! -grant
Glad you were able to take an unfortunate opportunity and make it into a positive situation!
Only way to go about these things and stay sane!!
I was almost thinking “what damage?” Until you started poking the layout. Wouldn’t have been so bad if you didn’t have the track and clearance issues. Glad you have a plan to fix.
I remember reading about a modeller who had a similar situation and because he paid attention and replicated the culverts and drainage that the prototype did, when the water leak happened, all the water drained through the layout’s culverts and onto the floor and then into the floor drain. I can’t help but think he had similar damage to his scenery.
Take care Grant, see ya at the next Ops, whenever that happens.
Thinking we might have to have an op session with a slow order before the track gets fixed Jon. Yah the first flood when the house still had Poly-B piping ended up landing in the lake and all the water ran under the bridges and off the edge of the layout. That seems like a lifetime ago... long before this layout was built. Cheers Pal!
Nice looking layout. I am sure the update will look awesome too.
Thanks Troy. Hoping to have it look better than before! -grant
Very sorry to hear about your leaking dishwasher and the damage it caused on the layout. Nevertheless, I sincerely appreciate your stance on this situation, which you take as an opportunity for improvement, rather than a setback.
Aren’t familiar with many North American dishwasher models, know more about European models. Have seen a lot of damage over the years especially from built-in models and inaccessible drain hoses. Don’t know if you have access to a drain for your dishwasher in the basement? As the main issue with dishwashers often is that they’re placed as low as possible for ergonomic reasons. This almost always entails for the drain hose to be connected up to a higher point in the drain under the sink. However, when the possibility exist to connect to a lower situated connection, then the hose will be emptied after every dishwashing circle. This will significantly increase the longevity of the flexible connection. Which in most cases remains filled with the organic waste and detergents, which can truly affect the consistency of those hoses. Cheerio
Thanks for your comments Vincent. I try to treat setbacks as "do-overs". We don't necessarily learn from success but rather from failure.
I appreciate your insight on the dishwasher drain hose. I hit the basement this morning after reading your comment... to plan on where to drop the drain hose through the floor and tie it into the main drain line!! Great idea that I'm sure not many think of. Cheers. -grant
Grant, Sorry to hear you had problems'. Great that you aren't distancing yourself from the problems' and heading into them with a plan. Saw you guest hosting on The Second Section Podcast. I feel as you do that there is way too much emphasis on the underbody details; most (99%) will not see them! I think if they focus (as you do and others') on the mechanism and the details that count the $ / unit will drop, thus, introducing more to well running models for the beginners in the hobby; increasing the retention factor. Take care.
Can't fix a problem unless you confront it Colin as I'm sure you well know!! I appreciate your comments on the podcast and your takeaway from it. You've hit the nail on the head. Give people a reliable product first to mitigate the frustration factor. Most of us got into the hobby during a time when detail parts were a thing and you could dress up your locomotives to your hearts desire. The key being the base model was decent quality to begin and we didn't end up with shelf queens. Cheers. -grant
@@SouthernAlbertaRail also "Proper Preparation Prevent Pi$$ Poor Performance."
Amazing skill
Thank you Bill. I really appreciate that. -grant
Sorry to hear about that. It doesn't look that bad, and I'm sure you will repair the damage to make it look even better.
Thanks. If nothing else the added colour of the Aspens will make it look better. -grant
Yikes! The thought of that gives me nightmares. Glad it wasn't too bad and you can turn it into a positive...
Not ideal but gives me an opportunity to improve the surrounding scene. Thanks for tuning in Paul. -grant
To be honest, I was expecting worse visual damage. I would have considered gluing the raised edges and rescenicing the repair as a start but understand you wanting to just remove, inspect and replace. Look forward to the upcoming repairs/changes.
I must say the rock face wash does look good, though!
Because of the curling I would have top re-soak the Celluclay to soften it and then it wouldn't bond. Best to tear out the affected area and start over. Shouldn't be too bad once I find some time to get at it. Cheers!
So lucky that that was all the damage the layout took. Could have been much worse! Enjoy the summer, the layout can wait until fall and winter.
Certainly could have been worse. Here in Alberta we tend to measure summer in weeks instead of months so I'll be at it sooner rather than later!! Cheers. -grant
Really, do you relly need to do all those changes/repairs as it looks fine to me and if anything glue the scenery back on the rocks, paint the overhead, and it appears the train runs fine over the track. All looks great to me.
The track is fine for a MOW train but the kink is noticeable when longer cars pass through. It will be better when the changes are made I promise!! I appreciate your input. Cheers. -grant
Gutted for you but really hope you can get your mojo back. Look forward to seeing how greatness grows from adversity 😊
Thanks Pete. Mojo should be back soon. Have to get through some renos and then I'll have earned some play time!! Cheers. -grant
Ever considered switching everything to Z-SCALE couplers?
They look really good and prototypical
I have but testing has proven that they won't handle the strain.
Lucky for you that there is not more damage
Yup could have been worse as far as the layout goes.... Cheers. -grant
Oh btw, sure the stuff you do in the house would make a good series 😁
Haha... There would be too much swearing! I think this place was designed and built by monkeys. It's no longer a re-modelling project but more of a rebuild. I'll show you guys what I'm up to one of these days soon.
Boa noite.
Esse lay out e sensacional.
Aqui no Brazil, acompanho vosso trabalho🤜🤛
Obrigado eu aprecio você assistindo! Cheers. -grant
i am a new viewer and this layout is awesome
Thanks so much. Be sure to check out some of my other vids that show the layout under better conditions!! -grant
You'd think builders would have figured out something to prevent something like that from happening. Maybe, something like the catch pan under the washer with a drain, so it wouldn't overflow that and prevent an ecological disaster. At any rate Grant, chalk one up to another Life experience!
Cheers 🍻 and Happy Trails!
I'm with you Ron.. Make complete sense to me.
@@SouthernAlbertaRail especially when, after something like that happens, there could be a chance of mold.
Time to wash dishes by hand!
This presented the opportunity to show my son how dishes used to be done when I was his age!! You know back when we all walked to school... up hill both ways in a blinding snow storm.........
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it! -grant
Well that sucks,there’s always something. Cold and rainy day in Calgary,guess I’ll stay inside and run some trains.😂
I wish trains were on the agenda......... Opening up a new cold air return as part of the hall renos over here..... Have fun Garry!! -grant
Wonder what the insurance guy said when you told him you had to redo some rocks face and part of the track mainline 😮
hahaha... Guessing it would be the standard insurance guy answer.... Take care Louis! -grant
Good day friend, hows everything going with the layout????? Any up coming videos it has been a few months since last update, can't wait to see what is to come!!!!!
No work over the summer on the layout. Busy outside but the snow is right around the corner and I'll be back in the basement!
Just like in real life, water can destroy railroads!
Aint that the truth!! Cheers.
Just checking in. Know it's summer. So lots going on. How are the repairs going. Hope all is well. The Vman
Been a busy summer V. Hoping to get into the basement in the next few weeks. I'll post an update vid for channel members on what I've been up to over the summer soon.
@@SouthernAlbertaRail cool. Miss you.
Sorry for damage. But in any spots it really made the look more realistic.
Appreciate that thanks. It will end up looking better in the long run! -grant
Ok honestly I was expecting more visible damage. But on the other side, who knows what lies beneath the scenery... 😐
Fortunately you use 3/4 plywood if my memory serves me well so this is sturdy. MDF likes to sucks water in, expands, and then it's done...
Is the kink inside or outside the curve ? Can't really tell from the angle in the vid. Seems like the glue didn't survive the soak...
Have a great summer and take care Grant 😊😉
Track pulled inward on the curve. Shouldn't be any damage to the sub roadbed because of the plywood. I remember seeing someone using MDF as roadbed and cringed!! It will suck up water for sure.
@@SouthernAlbertaRail yeah inward, that's what my eyes wanted to tell me.
I’m sorry that happened. I’ve never been a fan of dishwasher.
Had a pipe break on the last layout so this is pretty minor in the big picture. Still a wee touch frustrating but will come out on the other side looking better. Cheers! -grant
Hey Grant. Do you have any Freight Cars painted in your road on your layout? I ask because I would like to paint some up for my layout as if they made it here from yours.
Most home road cars are patched and are in captive service. I do have cement cars that might make an appearance offline. I'll find a picture and send it your way.
That would be perfect. I have a cement plant I'm building.
The cars I have done are Intermountain ACF cars. Hoping to decorate some of the Atlas 3230 cu/ft cars that are coming out as well.
@SouthernAlbertaRail I have 11 of one and 6 of the other. Waiting for paint.
I picked out 6 cars to paint. I may do more to make a train of them.
Wow!
Maybe someone can help me. I recently discovered this channel. The trackplan is in the November 21 issue. But unfortunately it is not available on their homepage. Not even the digital version. Greetings from Austria.
I'm going to try to get a track plan into the next layout tour. The one in RMC is now out of date anyway. The whole west end of the layout has changed since the article was published. Cheers. -grant
@@SouthernAlbertaRail Wow. Thank you. Looking forward.
know how you feel
Not a pile of fun to come down stairs to...........
Insurance should actually cover the damage, I think.
Thought about that but in the long run it's likely not worth the hassle. Cheers. -grant
How’s the Fires in your area?
The fires are north of me so we only have to deal with the smoke. We've had some wet weather which is helping with the overall situation. Thanks for asking. -grant
@@SouthernAlbertaRail
Been smokey in Ohio last couple months. Depends on wind direction.
idk, the erosion on the rock looks kinda cool but thats just me
Yah I don't mind it but the rock face was damaged and lost some of it's texture. It will be better once fixed up. -grant
Any updates ?
Should have something relatively soon Brad. Still wrapping up out door projects. Been eyeball deep in concrete and patio stones...
I anti did nothing tho
Hahahaha...... Love it. Cheers! -grant
Shame àbout your Kato boxes
Yah kind of a bummer but at least the stuff inside is OK....
Yikes
Not the most welcome thing to come downstairs and see!!!