2:54, 3:21, 4:03, 7:13, 10:46, 13:56, 14:41, 17:58,18:19, 19:35, 20:07, 21:00, 21:13 these are amazing points and gems that each and every parent, child, teacher(coaching and school) should watch for sure and it holds a lot of meaning. the cbse and ncert need a big wake up call from all these points made in the debate. if u make students take a walk in the park for 10 years and then expect them to run a 100 m race in the next 2 years its just dumb. this 10+2 system is bullshit. also improve your teachers and schools, they are messed up. also if what they are asking in competetive exams isnt even there in your textbooks then please rewrite them. you should expose students to various fields and jobs before they choose a stream so that they know where their real interests and strengths lie. if you don't then what do you expect them to do? Nice debate by Ndtv, very informative and really nice points made by the panellists. there should be more debates like this. thanks for doing it. GOVT of India wake up and sort out this screwed and messed up system before its too late, only then will your country progress!
National testing agency destroyed results by implemented percentile IITJEE MAIN 2019 JANUARY. They didn't transparently show how percentile is calculated in different shifts. 21 questions awarded bonus after Declaring results. NTA should be scrapped in its very first year.
Tough is a relative term. For someone with enough preparations nothing is tough. But for an unprepared individual even 2+2=? Would be a tough question. Jee is tough because it requires preparations which involves studying concepts, developing strategies, solving problems, using your brain to tackle some dynamic problems, memorizing and lots more. Again the tough in above is relative. As someone who is comfortable with all the efforts will find it easy. The problem is not everyone is comfortable with the effort they have to trow in. Lol. So yes it might be a tough exam. Second: our education system is such that students are required to join coaching in order to crack these exams. Why not schools teach these knowledge so the students would be prepared right from their school without wasting moneys on expensive coachings. Now the main problem is you spend so much money on 3 subjects Physics, Chemistry and Maths only and for only one entrance exam JEE. Now all the time while you go for coaching you have a fear of failure which is amplified due to the money you spent. So not only students but parents are stressed too. And the parents have to double stress their childrens to make it sure that they succeed. This is getting worts every time.
The toughnes of JEE is stupid. Because students could choose branch which waste the knowledge they gained during JEE prepararions (if they ever gained any knowledge, as the preparations is mainly exam oriented rather than knowledge oriented. Theres a difference.) when they go for a branch like CS. These branch might require some concept of maths but not physics and chemistry. So the efforts in all those preparations is kinda wasted. Also there is a side effect of all these Jee hype on M tech students. They clear gate exam and (gate exam could be considered as equally difficult to jee) have more technical knowledge but still they are less aksed for anything than a b tech students who cleared jee.
You are totally stupid and Assehole ask a average guy who had struggled a lot in 11th & 12th and then after taking multiple drops they failed they were not able to fulfill their dreams
@@rj-nj3uk you means one who is master of cs concepts don't know nothing about inertia,com. Even i am neet aspirant and in aiims he'll tough questions of physics is asked why? Do doctors need concept of inertia to solve a deep vein thrombosis cases.
who said there are no jobs in engineering and doctors..Good engineers are always in good demand ...there are many R&D centers in India esp in Banglore. Folks come down south ...if you are worth your salt you will get a job rest assured.
Agreed with prof Sharma’s views. Our education system is completely outdated narrow viewed, underdeveloped when it comes to school education. It make student nothing but a good book Crammr and knowledge gatherer rather than being innovative, creative or rational. Being studying in Canadian college, whatever so far I experienced is that there is lot to do in Indian education sector. New fields have to be created should be given equal importance too. Freedom must be given regarding selection of courses at early stage. Mode to study should be changed. Remind students do study not for passing the so called exams and tests. They are doing all for earning and learning. There must be more presentations, group works, practical works, rather than written exams and tests. A lot to say that’s not enough
because then the coaching industries will stop earning money . For the same reason the Govt. has designed the NCERT in such a way that students find no option except for going to big coaching institutes (industries).
@Abhilekh Sarmah You are right, jee syllabus is not at all based on ncert. Ex:Where the hell are the concepts of Charging and discharging of capacitors in ncert.
@@nithin1729s We do already have them in our books, charging and discharging of capacitors, combination of capacitors and resistors, all based on Kirchoff's voltage law. We do have derivations to find out the amount of charge stored in a capacitor before and after discharging,that's a bold topic which's there in almost every version, and if you go with the Epic HC Verma, its even more distinct.
Due to no proper guidance. I think ,if you prepare for jee , then prepare it by yourself through distance learning program then This situation never came , most of students have no proper study material, and they more emphasized on quantity not quality. And opted big institute rather than that if students go with videos lectures of etoos motion they succeed easily.
No it isn't as gaokao{Chinese entrance test} is wayyy tougher then iit. As it includes every subject not just pcm and u can't even study for this test only godgifted students pass this test. As it is created for them. Ex que= write an essay on a man going through desert 1000 words 10 mins.
IIT JEE identifies some bright minds among children. But doesn't add any value in the 4 years. The UR and R categories has made situation miserable. Except the top 200 or may be 500 are very good. Another 1000 may be bright kids but the rest is junk. These 1000 students are bright inspite of IIT. They would make it big anyways. The rest are incompetent.
2:54, 3:21, 4:03, 7:13, 10:46, 13:56, 14:41, 17:58,18:19, 19:35, 20:07, 21:00, 21:13
these are amazing points and gems that each and every parent, child, teacher(coaching and school) should watch for sure and it holds a lot of meaning.
the cbse and ncert need a big wake up call from all these points made in the debate.
if u make students take a walk in the park for 10 years and then expect them to run a 100 m race in the next 2 years its just dumb. this 10+2 system is bullshit.
also improve your teachers and schools, they are messed up.
also if what they are asking in competetive exams isnt even there in your textbooks then please rewrite them.
you should expose students to various fields and jobs before they choose a stream so that they know where their real interests and strengths lie. if you don't then what do you expect them to do?
Nice debate by Ndtv, very informative and really nice points made by the panellists. there should be more debates like this. thanks for doing it.
GOVT of India wake up and sort out this screwed and messed up system before its too late, only then will your country progress!
National testing agency destroyed results by implemented percentile IITJEE MAIN 2019 JANUARY. They didn't transparently show how percentile is calculated in different shifts. 21 questions awarded bonus after Declaring results. NTA should be scrapped in its very first year.
exactly......i was hoping that i will get cs in iiit hyderabad because i got 297 marks but was shocked when result came out.
Exactly, I got 99 percentile only after getting 246 marks out of 300
May be takeout the reservation and put jee tests as standard for every institution
IIT me teachers to deserved haina...13 point roaster h na
IITs m seat badhai gyi thi take aur general wale bachche aaye
No
10:37 He is our organic teacher @allen Kota
Me too sonal rajora sir
Tough is a relative term. For someone with enough preparations nothing is tough. But for an unprepared individual even 2+2=? Would be a tough question.
Jee is tough because it requires preparations which involves studying concepts, developing strategies, solving problems, using your brain to tackle some dynamic problems, memorizing and lots more.
Again the tough in above is relative. As someone who is comfortable with all the efforts will find it easy. The problem is not everyone is comfortable with the effort they have to trow in. Lol. So yes it might be a tough exam.
Second: our education system is such that students are required to join coaching in order to crack these exams. Why not schools teach these knowledge so the students would be prepared right from their school without wasting moneys on expensive coachings.
Now the main problem is you spend so much money on 3 subjects Physics, Chemistry and Maths only and for only one entrance exam JEE. Now all the time while you go for coaching you have a fear of failure which is amplified due to the money you spent. So not only students but parents are stressed too. And the parents have to double stress their childrens to make it sure that they succeed. This is getting worts every time.
The toughnes of JEE is stupid. Because students could choose branch which waste the knowledge they gained during JEE prepararions (if they ever gained any knowledge, as the preparations is mainly exam oriented rather than knowledge oriented. Theres a difference.) when they go for a branch like CS. These branch might require some concept of maths but not physics and chemistry. So the efforts in all those preparations is kinda wasted. Also there is a side effect of all these Jee hype on M tech students. They clear gate exam and (gate exam could be considered as equally difficult to jee) have more technical knowledge but still they are less aksed for anything than a b tech students who cleared jee.
You are totally stupid and Assehole ask a average guy who had struggled a lot in 11th & 12th and then after taking multiple drops they failed they were not able to fulfill their dreams
@@rj-nj3uk you means one who is master of cs concepts don't know nothing about inertia,com.
Even i am neet aspirant and in aiims he'll tough questions of physics is asked why? Do doctors need concept of inertia to solve a deep vein thrombosis
cases.
who said there are no jobs in engineering and doctors..Good engineers are always in good demand ...there are many R&D centers in India esp in Banglore. Folks come down south ...if you are worth your salt you will get a job rest assured.
Why does Dr Agrawal was not included in the discussions? If he was not good enough then why invite him. It is insult.
Agreed with prof Sharma’s views. Our education system is completely outdated narrow viewed, underdeveloped when it comes to school education. It make student nothing but a good book Crammr and knowledge gatherer rather than being innovative, creative or rational. Being studying in Canadian college, whatever so far I experienced is that there is lot to do in Indian education sector. New fields have to be created should be given equal importance too. Freedom must be given regarding selection of courses at early stage. Mode to study should be changed. Remind students do study not for passing the so called exams and tests. They are doing all for earning and learning. There must be more presentations, group works, practical works, rather than written exams and tests. A lot to say that’s not enough
rit
You are right
What no jobs I can't find workers to work on my farmland ,why everyone thinks if u would in AC office is the job
Why don't Schools do this JEE stuff??
because then the coaching industries will stop earning money . For the same reason the Govt. has designed the NCERT in such a way that students find no option except for going to big coaching institutes (industries).
Correct.....
And so poor students suffers most...
@Abhilekh Sarmah
You are right, jee syllabus is not at all based on ncert.
Ex:Where the hell are the concepts of Charging and discharging of capacitors in ncert.
@@nithin1729s We do already have them in our books, charging and discharging of capacitors, combination of capacitors and resistors, all based on Kirchoff's voltage law. We do have derivations to find out the amount of charge stored in a capacitor before and after discharging,that's a bold topic which's there in almost every version, and if you go with the Epic HC Verma, its even more distinct.
Many people think, "It's simply too much for your potential."
But they actually should think, "It's simply too `soon` for your situation."
She says no job after IIT
It's 15 lakh per annum average from IIT Kgp
Increase your knowledge commerce student
Only For computer science student idiot, only 60percent get jobs
😂😂😂u r right
The reason of suicide because of the parents acceptance.
Due to no proper guidance.
I think ,if you prepare for jee , then prepare it by yourself through distance learning program then
This situation never came , most of students have no proper study material, and they more emphasized on quantity not quality. And opted big institute rather than that if students go with videos lectures of etoos motion they succeed easily.
There is no jobs in the india.
No it isn't as gaokao{Chinese entrance test} is wayyy tougher then iit.
As it includes every subject not just pcm and u can't even study for this test only godgifted students pass this test.
As it is created for them.
Ex que= write an essay on a man going through desert 1000 words
10 mins.
Bleh
Gaokao is not one exam . It is a series of exams. It is like boards + IIT.
Talkin of essays like that probably most students can writr
Written responses really made the difference for me because of the "AP Drafts."
I didn't know what to study and do after graduating.
Never ...... ???
Due to reservation system
You are in MMMUT
Which is due to the gross system castism which still exist till date
hi
Lol ever heard name of IMO
Did you mean ITMO?
@@nygiants4943 no, I mean IMO(INTERNATIONAL MATHEMATICAL OLYMPIAD)
@@nygiants4943 they gives 9hours for 6 question.
You just need to look any one of its problem to understand its difficulty.
@@rtfacts5317 olympiads aren't that hard if you already have olympiad math knowledge(theorems, etc.)
watch 13:15
IIT JEE identifies some bright minds among children. But doesn't add any value in the 4 years. The UR and R categories has made situation miserable. Except the top 200 or may be 500 are very good. Another 1000 may be bright kids but the rest is junk. These 1000 students are bright inspite of IIT. They would make it big anyways. The rest are incompetent.