Honestly, I've had my harbor freight stand for a good 3 years and have yet to have a problem with it. Then again my bike doesn't have arms to bend it in half....
I had a harbor freight stand and it was shit and unstable. I paid alot of money for my zx10r and im not gonna be a cheap ass and risk having it fall over.
I'm sure the companies he is supporting (whether paying him or not) are great, but many cheaper stands are absolutely fine. The ones he bent prove nothing of how well they work as stands, he put stress in a way they just simply will not be stressed in use for what they were designed.
So i notice everyone in this thread says the Harbor Freight stand is fine except the guy who pointed out he has the ZX10R. Which got me wondering, what and how large of bikes do you other folks have? Maybe the Harbor Freight is just sketchy with 1000cc bikes 🤷
I’ve been using reasonably priced stands for years and not once had a problem of a bike being poorly supported or fall. Just take time to adjust them properly and they’ll serve you fine. You don’t need stands that cost hundreds of £’s or $’s.
There are plenty of riders who have used cheaper stands and not had a problem for sure. There are also plenty of stories from riders who learned this lesson the hard way. IMO there are better places to save a few bucks than a set of motorcycle stands. The purpose of this is to show even though they may look similar in the photos they are not all created equal. All riders should do their own research before purchasing so their expectations match the end result. Thanks for sharing your experience. - Brian Van
Why is everyone being so hard with their comments here? He clearly states more than once he is giving his own opinion. Feel free to take the info any way you want and buy what you want, but why all the hate man?? I use a trackside stand and have not had any issues with it, but I have friends who have Pitbulls and they are a better quality....Being said, I guess I need one. And good vid SPTG!! Keep up the good work.
nike12000 it’s well done though, it’s how sport bike track gear works, they only sell it if they believe in the product. Also if you respect welds or the folks who do it for a living, it well worth knowing the difference. I’m sure there are folks or younger kids out there who don’t know what to look for or didn’t know the quality difference until they saw this.
Your test is meaningless, you are putting forces where they don’t matter just to brake the handle of the stand... you can brake a brick by gently knocking it in half but you can also use it to stack it neatly 20 storeys high. And that my friend is good analogy here ;) I have the second stand that you broke. My bike is 230kg and I’ve been sitting on it and jumping around and it’s all fine
Stability is the biggest issue, we have a follow up video going up today covering this. If the bike wobbles on the stand it is junk IMO. I have used stands from most brands at this point and have more real world experience to support this than any other motorcycle stand video on RUclips. - Brian Van
@@sportbiketrackgear if the ground is not level your stand will wobble or flex no matter whose name is on it fact a shit stand on good ground is better than a good stand on shit ground
The Japanese make one hell of a great bike for sure. Pit Bull and Woodcraft both produce some of the finest products in our industry. This is more about investing in a quality product than it is supporting a US company. If the imported stands were better I would not hesitate to say that. Thanks for watching and not making fun of my shirt! - Brian Van
Hey I agree 100% dude. I was just giving you shit. I love the new Yamahas. They are sharp aaannndd I think they are the best looking bike ever made from behind.
I had TrackSide stands for my ‘07 R1 front and rear and bike never fell over in the 7 years I had it. However the front stand did seem “sketchy”. Now after using my friends Pit bull stand on my FZ-09 I can tell a huge difference in the quality and will be buying those this time around.
If most riders had the opportunity to compare both stands before they bought I bet most would leave with a Pit Bull or Woodcraft. We are going to keep a few sets of low line stands here for locals to compare if they want to before purchasing. Thanks for sharing your experience. - Brian Van
What do you think about the vortex or the driven front head lift stands? Are those reliable options? Pitt bull stands are definitely great but honestly they're not affordable to everyone and the fact that they nickel and dime for every little feature like axle holders, caliper holder and even the pin to lift the triple tree! despite the already high starting price is very discouraging honestly.
The Driven and Vortex are only ok to be honest. With the Pit Bull or the Woodcraft you will only need to buy it once and will love the way it works. - Van
Thank you so much. Perfect timing for me. I bought a CBR1000RR after not riding for 25 years. I was confused by all the brands of stands out there and this video was exactly what I needed. I was an engineer at one of the very best machine tool builders (lathes, machining centers, tooling, etc) in the world. Not only is the design and thickness of components important, the actual material (steel) analysis, heat treatment, welding technique, and many, many other things. This is why all these things are so closely regulated in the aerospace industry. Trust me, the Far East still has a lot to learn about building reliable, durable products.
I'm a good tig welder in food industry. I have to say I was really impressed they tig welded there pitbull stands. Tig welding takes time. Most companies are into getting things out asap. The welds on my pit bull stand is top notch. Almost as good as me😉
It all depends on how you use the stands. If they’re simply for storage, then cheap ones may do the job. If you’re using them to do work on your bike and using them at the track, then you’re better off buying quality stands like Pit Bull or Wodcraft (I only buy Pit Bull).
8 years using those cheapass motogp stands to do all kind of work on the bike, 10 trackdays a year ... They aren't sketchy at all. Only if the bike and stands are on quite sidewards tilted ground, but still... Pitbull and such... Just buy it if you really want to loose cash, show off or just don't dear to use anything less
Don't care what you are buying, never EVER trust a salesman- which is all Brian Vance and his videos are - especially if they say they are telling you THE TRUTH. The only truth is they want to sell product and make money.
What separates me from the rest is I want to sell you a product that delivers performance and value over the long haul. Sometimes that is found in a product that is expensive, sometimes a less expensive item is the way. This is no conspiracy theory man, just a fellow rider sharing knowledge. If you are convinced this video is all BS I will cover your expenses to come to the shop and we will shoot the same video together using the same items. 100% transparency - Brian Van
You bet your ass I want to sell you stuff and make money, that is how I make a living. That said it is more important to me the riders who Choose STG are happy with the items they purchase from us and we EARN the money we make through our service. - Brian Van
I have Pitbull stands and I've been using mine without any problems for 9 Years! And my bike sits on these fuckers for MONTHS on end, year after year during Winter storage! Nothing has bent or been weaken during all this time! I've owned a lil Ninja 250R for the first 2 years I had these Pitbull stands. Currently have my 2009 Ninja 650R (with extra givi touring stuff -ie extra weight) sitting on them for over the last 7 years! Go to a race track, do a trackday. You will see MOST of the riders using Pitbull. That aint no bullshit!
J B, I sell stuff and I am a salesperson.I don't sell any motorcycle stuff or work with Brian. So I got to tell you, if you are selling something good that people want people will buy it. Brian can pick out whatever he likes to sell, he could easily sell you the cheapest one too and promote those. He decided that he only will passionately recommend what he personally would use. Why not trust him, and what is wrong with making money ??? If its a free exchange of money for product then what is wrong with that ? If you have been wronged or something just come out and say it don't do this defaming stuff its weird.
Saying that "if you are selling something good people will buy it" is no longer true. And hasn't been for quite some time. It's evident everywhere. Why do you think so much shit is made in China these days. Unless you are 18 years old, as a salesman surely you would have seen it. People assume that stuff is just simply over priced and a rip off rather than superior quality, and choose to go for the cheap option even if it will only last 1/10th the life of the superior, more expensive product. It's very hard to find genuine quality in anything you buy these days, and it's going to get much worse.
I’ve owned a Harbor Freight stand for 4-5 years, since bought a few pit bulls. HF stand still works perfectly. It’s holding up a Triumph Speed Triple at the moment.
I learned the hard way. Put my brand new bike on a Harbor Freight stand and scratched the hell out of the swingarm, bike has 40 miles on it. Stand cost me $30. I ordered a Pitbull that night. Lesson learned the hard way.
This is what I am trying to save other riders from. There are so many negative comments in this video I wouldn't be surprised if I get my butt kicked at the MotoGP in Austin this weekend. Maybe I should wear a disguise??? - Van
was it the stand's fault or your own? I've seen many people blaming the gear, when it was them using it wrongly not saying it wasnt, cause I wasnt there, just asking and pointing out to others cheers
Not everyone owns a sportbike shop and has access to any "high dollar" name brand accessories at hand. Some , or most, people live within their means and buy what they can afford.
Bro his videos are the real deal. Hes just letting you know the difference in the stands and in his opinion. He has the best videos on gear too. Does he promote the stuff he sells, yes he does but he only sells a few brands and its because he has chosen what he thinks is the best for riders. He has a store he could have everything brand but he doesnt. He does however find the best of the best for people who are on a cheap budget. His sense of humor is dry sometimes but he was having fun. Look at some gear vids. You will change your mind
Vortex makes some amazing products for sure. Love their rearsets, sprockets, chain kits, etc... Their stands are more mid level IMO and not on the same level as their other parts. We have actually added this to the description on our site. If you have the extra money for the Woodcraft or Pit Bull I 100% recommend going with one of those brands. - Van
Im a big fan of stg. But I Agreed I have the same trackside rear, as well as the trackside fork lift and head lift. The fork lift is honestly a little sketchy. The head stand is 100% safe and fine. Notice the only one he tries to bend are $100+ stand vs a $ harbor freight stand. I can't bent my trackside stands with any reasonable amount of force, that includes standing on it while its on its side. Ill give you alot of the fork lift stands are sketchy, some better than others. But by the logic of this video, bike stands should be made out of 3" solid steal bar. That way if you try to use is as a shackle between two trucks doing a tug of war, your bike won't fall over? 🤷♂️ lol. Seems like alot over unnecessary energy and flexing in a tight shirt going on here.. "watch me bend 10ga aluminum in a direction it wasn't ment to be stressed!!"
My trackside stands are approaching 8 years old. I'm confident enough to sit on the bike with stands in place and I weight 200lb. Could they have been built stronger? Sure, but that comes at a cost. Like Van said he's no engineer so he's bending the stands at a direction that the stands would never go. If I plan on using stands sideways I will buy pitbull stands.
I have the 39.99 harbor freight garbage stand... It's awesome and works great... My r1 is safe and secure on it... Id feel like a sucker if I spent 4x as much on the same overpriced pitbull stand... This guy needs to chill...I thought he was gonna have a coronary.....I like his shirt too.... My 5 year old wears the same size...
You would have felt like a sucker for paying a fair price for a top quality product that out performs the one you have and will last forever? Harbor freight motorcycle stands are complete garbage, buying that makes you look like more of a sucker than buying a Pit Bull. - Brian Van
@@sportbiketrackgear don't get shirty buy british better quality than the shit your using the sucker who buys for the sake of a name 100$ plus is a moron
I watched all of your videos and then purchased a Pit Bull SS rear stand this morning for my S1000RR. After watching the video with your son, I almost purchased a Woodcraft, but you stood on the Pit Bull and I was sold. Thanks Man!
My bike almost fell today because a cheap stand (gifted from a friend) had a weld fail while lifting the bike. Still in my first season of riding, so thank you for all the great content. I'll definitely be ordering a pitbull in the morning.
I have been wanting to buy a rear stand for my Busa. After watching this video I ended up buying an SS Pit Bull rear stand. Just like the saying says you get what you pay for. The quality on the Pit Bull stand is second to none. Thanks for putting out this video.
Pit Bull and Woodcraft are the best. We use a ton of Pit Bull product to support our MotoAmerica efforts. Trailer restraints, wheel chocks, hybrid tie downs, stand / restraint transport and of course stands. - Van
lol I've been there with that exact same Harbor Freight silver stand. It never fully broke but it wobbled and began to bend. Night and day difference with a good product.
I really believe that most riders just have not had experience with both so they do not fully appreciate the value in the higher quality stand. Buy a good one and you never need to replace it. - Van
I have under 1000km of riding under my belt and am a very new owner of a motorcycle and right out of the gate I can appreciate the severity of buying a more expensive quality stand. Not saying pit bull is the only quality stand builder out there, but I wouldn’t go any less than their standard when it comes to propping my baby off the ground. Thanks for the video and ride safe.
He ain't wrong. The pitbull stuff is just miles ahead of less expensive stands in terms of quality and strength. You buy a pitbull stand you're never going to have to replace it if you're using it for it's intended purpose. and it's going to have no problems supporting any bike on the market. You can put a bike up on a pitbull stand and then sit on the bike, and you'll feel completely stable. I tried sitting on my 675 while it was up on a HF equivalent stand and it didn't feel secure at all getting up on the bike. After I got off I could see that one of the pipes had flexed. I haven't owned any woodcraft stands, but if their stands are like they crash protection products, they're also going to be excellent.
I have stand I bought from an individual. It lifts my bike but the spool adapters are missing it just has angle swing arm frame mounts so it lifts closer forward than the spools. Witch makes it difficult getting the bike on the stand and I have to get help to safely get my heavy 545 lb wet weight Kawasaki ZRX1200R off the stand. I don’t know what brand , no name on it but it definitely doesn’t look as strong as a Pit Bull and feels unsafe without the spool adapters. Is it easy to lift a heavy bike on and off a pit bull stand by oneself ?
Yes the Pit Bull will be more stable with a big bike like the ZRX1200. If your bike can be fitted with spools that is the best option so you should install them on the bike. Pit Bull has a stand specifically designed for the ZRX, here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/pit-bull-hayabusa-zx-14r-and-zrx-rear-stand/
I would order the front stand now and wait. If we don't have it here now it will be a week or so. Worth the wait, especially if you have the Pit Bull rear. - Van
I've got 8 pairs of stands from Pit-Bull. Had most of them for over 12-15 years and they work and look just as good as day one. Pay a little more; get value.
Over the years I have seen very few issues with Pit Bull products. So few you could damn near call it no issues. I bought my first Pit Bull stand in 2002 from them directly before I started STG. Pretty sure that was the stand I gave to Jimmy's roommate to replace his junk stand I tore up in the video. - Brian Van
was at a new bike shop in my area.. thought of giving them some business.. just an oil change.. they took time to check my chain slack and brake pads/fluid.. but what made me their return customer was when a hayabusa came in the owner went to get an Oxford stand from local retailer he knew cheap ones cant take the weight willing to fork out money for us customers thats a mark of a great owner.
Hello, I have a question that you can hopefully help me with. So I have MZS Spools on Yamaha R6 and I just bought a cheap Harbor Freight and it doesn't fit that size. For the Pitbull will it fit the MZS Spools?
I am not familiar with the MZS spools. That said I do have some experience with their levers which are complete shit and have caused several riders front brakes to lock. Given that I would not install anything produced by MZS on a bike I actually liked. - Van
I have one of those Track Side stands, and it's not all bad. It works great for storing or wrenching on my superlight sport bikes (Cagiva Mito, Aprilia RS125, Suzuki RG125) but I wouldn't use it to hold up any of my big bikes. Pitbull all the way.
What a load of 'Shite'. No bike ever puts stresses through its frame like you have just demonstrated. All you have proven is that you are an American with muscles, that likes the sound of his own voice. I have that second stand you destroyed, it has served me well for years, with some big heavy bikes on it too. Take a chill pill fella and get your facts straight. ☺️
The second stand I destroyed is an absolute piece of garbage from the workmanship to the materials used. This becomes incredibly clear when you have the opportunity to lift a bike with it and compare it to the Pit Bull or Woodcraft products which I have done. - Brian Van
Sportbike Track Gear I am not sure what you mean by, " this is becomes incredibly clear when you lift a bike with it". I have lifted Pan Europeans, Honda CB1000R, Aprilia Tuono APRC, BMW S1000XR, All without issue or distortion of any way. This must make it a complete piece of garbage! RUclips sensationalism does not make for truthful and factual information. Whatever floats you boat I suppose. Keep up the good work! That is ironic sarcasm just incase you missed it!!!!!! 😎
I too have the second stand you broke and I agree that these stands do not have to have much lateral strength. I'm 100kg and I've had my zx14r on these stands with me on it and guess what? No damage. No bending or flexing and my bikes live on their stand after 2 years zero issues. Show us how the stands break with bikes on them as they are designed for. Yeah..... didn't think so. Nice gains.
It is beyond me why you would lift any bike with that low quality stand, especially high end bikes like those you have listed. Have you ever had the opportunity to lift a bike with a Pit Bull stand to compare? If you have not you need to get that done then add a couple more comments. - Brian Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Yeh its a shame there is no supplier here in Australia, think most people get them from Ebay, especially the Swingarm version for the rear, very very cheap but no were near the quality of the PitBull ? Thanks for the reply.
I’m surprised this guy can breathe with that small shirt. Between the skateboarding shoes, affliction jeans, and button-splitting small shirt, I bet this guy is a real hoot to hangout with...
Great video as usual. Just wish i saw this before i bought my trackside stand. wasnt trying to save money. It just seemed like a quality stand at the time. Fortunately havent had an issue yet with my trackside stand. Holds my RC51, my baby. Definitely in the market for a Pitbull stand now.
Hi, nice video ! I bought my first bike, a 2016 Kawasaki ER6N (replaced by the Z650 since 2017) What stand from Pitbull would you recommend for this bike ? Thank you guys
Assuming this bike accepts swingarm spools I would go with the Pit Bull Spooled Rear Stand. Here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/pit-bull-spooled-rear-motorcycle-stand/ Apologies for the late response, I missed a few comments. - Brian Van
unless you want to do suspension work - Watch this video of the $89 dollar Harbor Freight jack, the one that allows front and rear suspension work - ruclips.net/video/2PPgWa4BcjU/видео.html
Zero compensation for this or any other Pit Bull related video we have done over the years. Bottom line is their products are the benchmark in our industry. Anyone who owns one knows this to be accurate. - Van
@@chauboii yet my 50 dollar stand has never failed for years. LOL just don't be a fucking asshole with ur bike when it's on a stand. Mind you my bike weighs barely 400 lbs
@@bobfrankfurt9449 Well I own a pitbull stand and this thing will never fail. Iwoudn't trust my $19,000 BMW to a $50 stand. If you can afford quality then why wouldn't you buy it.
@@TheBeagleBrigade I get it, but like I said I don't play around much with the bike when it's on the stand. It holds it perfectly fine being a smaller bike (2019 MT-09). I would also recommend getting the Pitbull IF you can afford it. Some can't.
Using the price of a bike as your number when discussing a bike is totally stupid, right? Sure, he could have used a bigger number, but why is it necessary? And this is some common term, where there's some sense of "proper" now? I think you're just being An Idiot .. ahahaha ...
I think that's a young guy thing or one who's never went on the mile slide. That's a way too common truth in cheap, but as long as they look the part... Then everyone's insurance goes up because of cheap gear, parts, and a bad injury combined due to nature of cheap. They may save a few dollars, but the group will pay the price as insurers calculate new risk assessment for another year.
Harris makes good stuff for sure. I have not seen this stand as their products are not currently distributed here in the US. Hard to to form an accurate opinion without seeing the stand myself to be fair. - Van
Hello I was watching your video . And thank you for the heads up . I am in the market buying a stand for my motorcycle. I need your opinion about this brand ? The brand is called dynamotousa? Should I buy it ?
I have never seen nor used one of their stands which makes it hard to have an opinion. What I have seen I will say the Dynamoto appear to be more for storage than service or tire warmer use. - Van
I learned my lesson with Harbor Freight stands. lol However, I'm too cheap for Pitbull stands, but the ones I have now are great, have had them for years.
May I ask, I'm new to motorcycle paddock stand.. I feel there's a lot of pressure on front wheel pushing it down while on rear paddock stand which never happens on conventional main/center stand. Are paddock stands generally safe for the suspensions and tires for storing the bike, like I'm just using the bike once or twice a week. thank you guys
Yes it is safe to use a stand to store the bike and while performing maintenance on it. That said we do recommend using the best stands you can afford as they offer more strength and stability than the cheap ones will. - Van
I had cheap stands and upgraded to PitBulls. If you work on your bike occasionally and not sure if you will do so in the future, go with cheap stands. If you're using them at least once a month or plan on doing more and more work to the bike, go with PitBulls. It's worth the investment. Cheap stands are pretty sketchy for the rears without spindles, but they get the job done
Built in the US is not a global stamp of quality. Both Pit Bull and Woodcraft produce quality products here in the US. As for cars I drive GM products (spent most of my former career in a Cadillac dealer as a tech) and have some issues for sure but overall completely satisfied. Over the years I have worked on nearly every make and model vehicle, they all have their issues IMO. - Brian Van
I usually love your build videos but this one is over the top I've been racing or 12 years now have many many stands of many brands and they all work fine yes my pitbull and woodcraft stands are top quality and love them but I have 100$ stands just as good and just as well made. If you use them as intended they will never fail if you bend them abuse them yeah they will ALL break it all comes out to how much abuse you send their way. Like I said I usually like what you do but this video is pushing the limits of product promotion to the point of ridicule. The fact that you took time and attacking people giving their own opinions on the subject matter in the comment section makes you look a bit sour and doesn't look good from a potential costumer. Do you treat your costumers the same way when they have issues with a product sold by STG and they are not satisfied or has defaults? I'm sorry but you came out as "" I know what best and who cares what you think in the end I'm right your wrong and thats that "" Like I said I like what you guys do and the subject matter you put out but this one is a strike in my books these stands should have been promoted with a bias perspective from a shop that sell many different stands. This is only my opinion on what I have watched it doesn't define who you are and I'm not attacking your person nor your integrity in any way just a simple observation. Keep the good content coming Van!
This is not meant to be an attack on anyone. I did this to show there is a difference between the quality stands and the cheap ones. Most people will never have the opportunity to handle all of the different brands to experience the difference. When you shop stands on the internet there is a ton of misinformation out there from fake product reviews to pages comparing motorcycle stands created by and affiliate marketing firm that has never handled any of the products they write about. - Brian Van
So he likes only the good stuff...so what...its his business. It also helps to know if you buy from him...its good stuff. ALOT of companies do this. And if you think this is bad, look at his Ninja 400 King Of Exhaust video. Used car sales shit there. But atleast you know your getting good stuff from his store.
Pit Bull stands behind their products 100%. If there is an issue they handle it, all you have to do is reach out to them. In all the years I have sold and used their stuff I have never seen one fail. - Van
So I got a trackside rear and front stand, and well the rear stand works but I cannot for the life of me get the front stand to work, every time I try it the wheel slips off when lifting. I think its because the right side of the stand wasn't level with the left side... so Im gonna go return it and get a pit bull front stand...
If you ride on the track you will need to sit on the bike when it is on the stands frequently. Notice that we use a race bike in this video, no lights etc... This video is full of good information with a little humor sprinkled on top. This video is most relevant for sport riders that are already on the track or intend to do so in the future. I am a salesman that invests a ton of time and effort into helping the riders that shop at STG choose products they will be satisfied with. - Brian Van
I would LOVE to have a pitbull OR a woodcraft but im just a poor ass so couldnt afford it. I wish you would of done a bargain budget option bc i guarantee you my t-rex stand would fit that option, an extremely good stand for 2nd best and only 60 something dollars. (Think they raised there prices now though)
I just checked their web site. The Pitbull/Woodcraft are less than $150, your bike probably costs thousands of dollars. The difference between the two pricewise is less than $90 bucks! Why would you risk it? That's probably less than the average one month cable OR cell phone bill.
CorkKNIFE you CAN NOT bend my stand like those did, the stand i bought is not low budget like that. Im not risking my bike at all, my bike cost 6gs my 2 stands were like 120 something, so less than 1 pitbull which was over 150 in the options I'd want. No risk here at all as a T-rex stand is made of thick gauge metal just like a pitbull, just not all the features. I was just offering a second bargain budget option for people who dont wanna pay over 150 dollars for some basic metal welded up.
Tyler Dirden I'm just saying it's doable, mate. Back in the day I've purchased brand new pitbull for $150...right now I have 4, which cost me in total $200... if I had silver spoon in my moth it would be a different story, but with wife, kid and bills to pay I'm cool with used stuff...works just as good
The Driven stands and the Vortex are on the exact same level IMO. Both of them are a reasonable middle of the road product. The Woodcraft and Pit Bull are still the best brands on the market today. - Van
We have not seen these stands in person. For the track riding we do I am not sure they would get the job done as they look like they are more for storage purposes. - Van
I bought the Pit Bull front and rear stands after watching this video. I never knew there was such a difference in quality. These stands are amazingly solid! Thank you!!!
Awesome reviews. After finding your site (and watching your videos) I only order my gear from STG now. Only guy or site I trust for honest gear reviews.
the only stand i have is pitbull .....and i was sold on it last year when you mad a vid on how to replace the rear breaks on your r1. and you had that attachment the helps you lift the tire while its in the stand .....i needed that in my life haha....great vid ...and yiu guys have some of the best customer service....just meed to know how to use my points from the site....lol
Thanks for watching and the orders! Odds are if you are having trouble getting the points applied you are using PayPal Express or Amazon Pay from the "Cart" page and not clicking the "Proceed To Checkout" button. If you make payment directly from the cart the STG Cash does not get applied. Try that and if you have any further issues please email me directly at service@sportbiketrackgear.com - Brian Van
That way usually works for me. At times I do have to back out and re-log in to get it to show up there, but I've never had it completely fail to show up for me.
Sportbike Track Gear thank you sir....ill have to see what i may be not doing right lol.....x-mas is coming and i want somthing for my 2016 r1....great customer service even on youtube.....much love BV can wait to ride with yall one day ....everyone at STG is awsome
For anyone wondering, I've climbed all over my bike with Pit Bull stands and it didn't move an inch! To my roommate Matt- sorry about your junk stand dawg
The only way to get a proper quote is to enter in all your details on the site with the products in the cart. They are heavy so the shipping is not cheap. That said the Woodcraft ship in a smaller box and would be a little less to ship than the Pit Bull which require a pretty large box. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear yes, they are available. I have one set and just ordered my second set. I wanted your take on them, but from personal experience they are fine and very convenient moving the bike around in my garage. You can move the bike in any direction with the greatest of ease. Stephen I believe is the owner I contacted him directly and he gave me a promo code as well. Btw thanks again for the t-shirt back at Laguna Seca. You and your wife are awesome. See you later this summer at Laguna hopefully.
Honestly, I've had my harbor freight stand for a good 3 years and have yet to have a problem with it. Then again my bike doesn't have arms to bend it in half....
Nothing he said was practical....
I had a harbor freight stand and it was shit and unstable. I paid alot of money for my zx10r and im not gonna be a cheap ass and risk having it fall over.
I'm sure the companies he is supporting (whether paying him or not) are great, but many cheaper stands are absolutely fine. The ones he bent prove nothing of how well they work as stands, he put stress in a way they just simply will not be stressed in use for what they were designed.
So i notice everyone in this thread says the Harbor Freight stand is fine except the guy who pointed out he has the ZX10R. Which got me wondering, what and how large of bikes do you other folks have? Maybe the Harbor Freight is just sketchy with 1000cc bikes 🤷
Nigel Lane LOL i was thinking the same thing!! 🤣
Time to buy a bigger shirt
It is the holiday season man, what can I say my Wife Marcine is one hell of a cook! - Brian Van
Andrew Lookner true
stephenmwyatt2 lol you need help Stephen
You think you are a tough guy. Nobody wears a shirt like that except a failed thug like yourself.
Are you aware of his background?
I’ve been using reasonably priced stands for years and not once had a problem of a bike being poorly supported or fall. Just take time to adjust them properly and they’ll serve you fine. You don’t need stands that cost hundreds of £’s or $’s.
There are plenty of riders who have used cheaper stands and not had a problem for sure. There are also plenty of stories from riders who learned this lesson the hard way. IMO there are better places to save a few bucks than a set of motorcycle stands. The purpose of this is to show even though they may look similar in the photos they are not all created equal. All riders should do their own research before purchasing so their expectations match the end result. Thanks for sharing your experience. - Brian Van
Why is everyone being so hard with their comments here? He clearly states more than once he is giving his own opinion. Feel free to take the info any way you want and buy what you want, but why all the hate man?? I use a trackside stand and have not had any issues with it, but I have friends who have Pitbulls and they are a better quality....Being said, I guess I need one. And good vid SPTG!! Keep up the good work.
so...should we give a disclaimer that we also are giving our own opinion....like you have given here like everyone else....what say?
XXX xxx no you should just start your own channel.
@@xxxxxx6234 in my opinion, you shouldn't listen to Jason, you definitely want to disclaimer your comments that it's just your opinion
This video brought to you by pitbull stands....
nike12000 it’s well done though, it’s how sport bike track gear works, they only sell it if they believe in the product. Also if you respect welds or the folks who do it for a living, it well worth knowing the difference. I’m sure there are folks or younger kids out there who don’t know what to look for or didn’t know the quality difference until they saw this.
Ah, the internet where name calling ensues after discussing welds. I apologize that I appreciate sportbiketrackgear and their sales philosophy. Cheers
Jordan Dunham I was replying to the guy who trolled the post not you. We agree.
My mistake! Thank you for the clarification
It's not like he's selling snake oil or testosterone pills. Pitbull is legit and well respected for a reason.
Your test is meaningless, you are putting forces where they don’t matter just to brake the handle of the stand... you can brake a brick by gently knocking it in half but you can also use it to stack it neatly 20 storeys high. And that my friend is good analogy here ;) I have the second stand that you broke. My bike is 230kg and I’ve been sitting on it and jumping around and it’s all fine
Stability is the biggest issue, we have a follow up video going up today covering this. If the bike wobbles on the stand it is junk IMO. I have used stands from most brands at this point and have more real world experience to support this than any other motorcycle stand video on RUclips. - Brian Van
@@sportbiketrackgear it takes a special kind of person to sit and wobble around on a stand lol
Break*
Your analogy is horrific in your own argument. You're stacking. And uhh, your stand is a piece of shit.
@@sportbiketrackgear if the ground is not level your stand will wobble or flex no matter whose name is on it fact a shit stand on good ground is better than a good stand on shit ground
"I love to support American Companys". Standing in front of Japans finest. Lol kiddding
The Japanese make one hell of a great bike for sure. Pit Bull and Woodcraft both produce some of the finest products in our industry. This is more about investing in a quality product than it is supporting a US company. If the imported stands were better I would not hesitate to say that. Thanks for watching and not making fun of my shirt! - Brian Van
Hey I agree 100% dude. I was just giving you shit. I love the new Yamahas. They are sharp aaannndd I think they are the best looking bike ever made from behind.
There's lots of American supersport bikes to choose from
@@freshfruit23 Examples, please? Not doubting you just wondering any that can compare to the Japanese or European counterparts.
@@solar8600 I was being sarcastic, I don't know of any high volume American motorbike manufacturers.
I've had my pitbull stands for over 10yrs. Used them a bunch at home and at the track without fail. They're still going strong!
Great vid STG!
The best in the business. Thanks for watching! - Van
@@sportbiketrackgeardon't forget ridiculously way expensive too. USA greed. Never will I pay $200 for bike stands. Lmao
I had TrackSide stands for my ‘07 R1 front and rear and bike never fell over in the 7 years I had it. However the front stand did seem “sketchy”. Now after using my friends Pit bull stand on my FZ-09 I can tell a huge difference in the quality and will be buying those this time around.
If most riders had the opportunity to compare both stands before they bought I bet most would leave with a Pit Bull or Woodcraft. We are going to keep a few sets of low line stands here for locals to compare if they want to before purchasing. Thanks for sharing your experience. - Brian Van
@@sportbiketrackgearI bet not for $200 for one stand. Way overpriced and USA greed is in full force!! That's why China is getting all of our money.
I have a trackside stand but I'm switching to Pitbull because it's American made and that gold stand looks good up under that ZX10R
I like the way you think. - Van
What do you think about the vortex or the driven front head lift stands? Are those reliable options?
Pitt bull stands are definitely great but honestly they're not affordable to everyone and the fact that they nickel and dime for every little feature like axle holders, caliper holder and even the pin to lift the triple tree! despite the already high starting price is very discouraging honestly.
The Driven and Vortex are only ok to be honest. With the Pit Bull or the Woodcraft you will only need to buy it once and will love the way it works. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear got it. Appreciate the information!
Thank you so much. Perfect timing for me. I bought a CBR1000RR after not riding for 25 years. I was confused by all the brands of stands out there and this video was exactly what I needed.
I was an engineer at one of the very best machine tool builders (lathes, machining centers, tooling, etc) in the world. Not only is the design and thickness of components important, the actual material (steel) analysis, heat treatment, welding technique, and many, many other things. This is why all these things are so closely regulated in the aerospace industry. Trust me, the Far East still has a lot to learn about building reliable, durable products.
Buy a quality stand right out of the gate and you will never need to replace it. - Van
Chinese buy, copy, build cheap so idiots grab it and smile.
I'm a good tig welder in food industry. I have to say I was really impressed they tig welded there pitbull stands. Tig welding takes time. Most companies are into getting things out asap. The welds on my pit bull stand is top notch. Almost as good as me😉
Thanks for taking the time to post this. Most people have no clue what it takes to produce quality stuff like this. - Van
"Hey Jimmy, did you notice? My bike didn't fall down." LOL
I was standing there watching him film this...trust me, that one got an eye-roll haha!
And he even climbed one from the "wrong side" of the bike.
HEY JIMMY! any one else think of kleb? 😂
It all depends on how you use the stands. If they’re simply for storage, then cheap ones may do the job. If you’re using them to do work on your bike and using them at the track, then you’re better off buying quality stands like Pit Bull or Wodcraft (I only buy Pit Bull).
8 years using those cheapass motogp stands to do all kind of work on the bike, 10 trackdays a year ... They aren't sketchy at all.
Only if the bike and stands are on quite sidewards tilted ground, but still...
Pitbull and such... Just buy it if you really want to loose cash, show off or just don't dear to use anything less
Pit Bull or Woodcraft.. can't go wrong with either! Best stands out there, period.
Agree with this 100%. - Van
Don't care what you are buying, never EVER trust a salesman- which is all Brian Vance and his videos are - especially if they say they are telling you THE TRUTH. The only truth is they want to sell product and make money.
What separates me from the rest is I want to sell you a product that delivers performance and value over the long haul. Sometimes that is found in a product that is expensive, sometimes a less expensive item is the way. This is no conspiracy theory man, just a fellow rider sharing knowledge. If you are convinced this video is all BS I will cover your expenses to come to the shop and we will shoot the same video together using the same items. 100% transparency - Brian Van
You bet your ass I want to sell you stuff and make money, that is how I make a living. That said it is more important to me the riders who Choose STG are happy with the items they purchase from us and we EARN the money we make through our service. - Brian Van
I have Pitbull stands and I've been using mine without any problems for 9 Years! And my bike sits on these fuckers for MONTHS on end, year after year during Winter storage! Nothing has bent or been weaken during all this time! I've owned a lil Ninja 250R for the first 2 years I had these Pitbull stands. Currently have my 2009 Ninja 650R (with extra givi touring stuff -ie extra weight) sitting on them for over the last 7 years! Go to a race track, do a trackday. You will see MOST of the riders using Pitbull. That aint no bullshit!
J B, I sell stuff and I am a salesperson.I don't sell any motorcycle stuff or work with Brian. So I got to tell you, if you are selling something good that people want people will buy it. Brian can pick out whatever he likes to sell, he could easily sell you the cheapest one too and promote those. He decided that he only will passionately recommend what he personally would use. Why not trust him, and what is wrong with making money ???
If its a free exchange of money for product then what is wrong with that ?
If you have been wronged or something just come out and say it don't do this defaming stuff its weird.
Saying that "if you are selling something good people will buy it" is no longer true. And hasn't been for quite some time. It's evident everywhere. Why do you think so much shit is made in China these days. Unless you are 18 years old, as a salesman surely you would have seen it. People assume that stuff is just simply over priced and a rip off rather than superior quality, and choose to go for the cheap option even if it will only last 1/10th the life of the superior, more expensive product. It's very hard to find genuine quality in anything you buy these days, and it's going to get much worse.
I’ve owned a Harbor Freight stand for 4-5 years, since bought a few pit bulls. HF stand still works perfectly. It’s holding up a Triumph Speed Triple at the moment.
While it may hold a bike it is no Pit Bull. Note even close to be fair. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear I agree, but “puts new tires on his bikes or buys each one a stand?”
I learned the hard way. Put my brand new bike on a Harbor Freight stand and scratched the hell out of the swingarm, bike has 40 miles on it. Stand cost me $30. I ordered a Pitbull that night. Lesson learned the hard way.
This is what I am trying to save other riders from. There are so many negative comments in this video I wouldn't be surprised if I get my butt kicked at the MotoGP in Austin this weekend. Maybe I should wear a disguise??? - Van
was it the stand's fault or your own? I've seen many people blaming the gear, when it was them using it wrongly
not saying it wasnt, cause I wasnt there, just asking and pointing out to others
cheers
Have you ever tried out a dynamoto motorcycle stand? I would love to know your opinion on that.
I have heard of them but have not had the opportunity to use one myself. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear they look kind of flimsy but the idea of being able to move your bike around is great.
Ok, just ordered a Pitbull stand based on your video. You're right, the others are sketchy.
Enjoy your new stand. - Van
Not everyone owns a sportbike shop and has access to any "high dollar" name brand accessories at hand. Some , or most, people live within their means and buy what they can afford.
This is total bull shit.. I mean how can i look at the quality of those stands when that bad ass bike is behind you.
well said my brother! Bike will be for sale in the next couple weeks. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear Nooo that bike is too nice
First time watching this guys video and last , to negative and he’s trying to push product so hard
Sal Ruiz I’m just saying I’m not putting a 30k bike on a 60 stand. Just for 90 more it’s not breaking the bank
Brotha hes being honest. Honesty is the best policy when it comes to a 17000$ bike on stand you want that shit to last and not fall and scrape.
Bro his videos are the real deal. Hes just letting you know the difference in the stands and in his opinion. He has the best videos on gear too. Does he promote the stuff he sells, yes he does but he only sells a few brands and its because he has chosen what he thinks is the best for riders. He has a store he could have everything brand but he doesnt. He does however find the best of the best for people who are on a cheap budget. His sense of humor is dry sometimes but he was having fun. Look at some gear vids. You will change your mind
This is the first time I’m watching this guy’s videos...and definitely not the last.
So is Vortex a considerable brand too or is it solely Pitbull & Woodcraft?
Vortex makes some amazing products for sure. Love their rearsets, sprockets, chain kits, etc... Their stands are more mid level IMO and not on the same level as their other parts. We have actually added this to the description on our site. If you have the extra money for the Woodcraft or Pit Bull I 100% recommend going with one of those brands. - Van
Sounds right to me. I didn’t see any good reviews for Vortex’s stands either.
Woodcraft it is then. Thank you for this video!
Trackside works fine no bike of mine has fallen over
Im a big fan of stg. But I Agreed I have the same trackside rear, as well as the trackside fork lift and head lift. The fork lift is honestly a little sketchy. The head stand is 100% safe and fine. Notice the only one he tries to bend are $100+ stand vs a $ harbor freight stand. I can't bent my trackside stands with any reasonable amount of force, that includes standing on it while its on its side. Ill give you alot of the fork lift stands are sketchy, some better than others. But by the logic of this video, bike stands should be made out of 3" solid steal bar. That way if you try to use is as a shackle between two trucks doing a tug of war, your bike won't fall over? 🤷♂️ lol. Seems like alot over unnecessary energy and flexing in a tight shirt going on here.. "watch me bend 10ga aluminum in a direction it wasn't ment to be stressed!!"
My trackside stands are approaching 8 years old. I'm confident enough to sit on the bike with stands in place and I weight 200lb. Could they have been built stronger? Sure, but that comes at a cost. Like Van said he's no engineer so he's bending the stands at a direction that the stands would never go. If I plan on using stands sideways I will buy pitbull stands.
Same. No issues with trackside rear stand and it's a good value at $60, especially if you move/sell later
The quality remains long after the price is forgotten, that's served me well BV !
Spot on my brother! - Van
"Buy Once, Cry Once" is my mantra.
I made my own! It is nice when you have friends with a welder and bender.
I have the 39.99 harbor freight garbage stand... It's awesome and works great... My r1 is safe and secure on it... Id feel like a sucker if I spent 4x as much on the same overpriced pitbull stand... This guy needs to chill...I thought he was gonna have a coronary.....I like his shirt too.... My 5 year old wears the same size...
You would have felt like a sucker for paying a fair price for a top quality product that out performs the one you have and will last forever? Harbor freight motorcycle stands are complete garbage, buying that makes you look like more of a sucker than buying a Pit Bull. - Brian Van
@@sportbiketrackgear don't get shirty buy british better quality than the shit your using the sucker who buys for the sake of a name 100$ plus is a moron
Good troll comment 😂
How do you feel about dynomoto stands? I have a set and they have worked fine and you can roll your bike around garage effortlessly.
I have seen them on the internet but not in person so I can not comment. - Van
I watched all of your videos and then purchased a Pit Bull SS rear stand this morning for my S1000RR. After watching the video with your son, I almost purchased a Woodcraft, but you stood on the Pit Bull and I was sold. Thanks Man!
Great video Brian, now to the important question.
Who do you think would win an arm wrestling competition between you and Anthony from Revzilla?
My bike almost fell today because a cheap stand (gifted from a friend) had a weld fail while lifting the bike. Still in my first season of riding, so thank you for all the great content. I'll definitely be ordering a pitbull in the morning.
Thanks for watching and sorry to hear your bike hit the deck. Buy the good stuff once my friend. - Van
I have been wanting to buy a rear stand for my Busa. After watching this video I ended up buying an SS Pit Bull rear stand. Just like the saying says you get what you pay for. The quality on the Pit Bull stand is second to none. Thanks for putting out this video.
You are welcome and thank you for taking the time to share your experience. - Van
If you had to choose, woodcraft or bulldog? Also does the front stand allow the removal of the front tire on all bikes? You convinced me so Im buying!
Pit Bull and Woodcraft are the best. We use a ton of Pit Bull product to support our MotoAmerica efforts. Trailer restraints, wheel chocks, hybrid tie downs, stand / restraint transport and of course stands. - Van
Great review and opinions! Do you ha e a video putting on the rear stand?
Thanks for watching, here is a link to the Pit Bull rear stand video: ruclips.net/video/EJ3fO_xEb2s/видео.html - Van
lol I've been there with that exact same Harbor Freight silver stand. It never fully broke but it wobbled and began to bend. Night and day difference with a good product.
I really believe that most riders just have not had experience with both so they do not fully appreciate the value in the higher quality stand. Buy a good one and you never need to replace it. - Van
I have under 1000km of riding under my belt and am a very new owner of a
motorcycle and right out of the gate I can appreciate the severity of buying a more expensive quality stand. Not saying pit bull is the only quality stand builder out there, but I wouldn’t go any less than their standard when it comes to propping my baby off the ground. Thanks for the video and ride safe.
He ain't wrong. The pitbull stuff is just miles ahead of less expensive stands in terms of quality and strength. You buy a pitbull stand you're never going to have to replace it if you're using it for it's intended purpose. and it's going to have no problems supporting any bike on the market. You can put a bike up on a pitbull stand and then sit on the bike, and you'll feel completely stable. I tried sitting on my 675 while it was up on a HF equivalent stand and it didn't feel secure at all getting up on the bike. After I got off I could see that one of the pipes had flexed.
I haven't owned any woodcraft stands, but if their stands are like they crash protection products, they're also going to be excellent.
Lmao, you know they make adult shirts right..
So I'm a little fat man...
No your a poser and yamahas suck
@@kennethhughes3275 Dude's the real deal and Yamahas def don't suck.
@@kennethhughes3275 you're* dummy
I have stand I bought from an individual. It lifts my bike but the spool adapters are missing it just has angle swing arm frame mounts so it lifts closer forward than the spools. Witch makes it difficult getting the bike on the stand and I have to get help to safely get my heavy 545 lb wet weight Kawasaki ZRX1200R off the stand. I don’t know what brand , no name on it but it definitely doesn’t look as strong as a Pit Bull and feels unsafe without the spool adapters. Is it easy to lift a heavy bike on and off a pit bull stand by oneself ?
Yes the Pit Bull will be more stable with a big bike like the ZRX1200. If your bike can be fitted with spools that is the best option so you should install them on the bike. Pit Bull has a stand specifically designed for the ZRX, here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/pit-bull-hayabusa-zx-14r-and-zrx-rear-stand/
I have a pitbull rear. The pitbull front triple stands were sold out. Is T Rex an alright brand? Thanks in advance.
I would order the front stand now and wait. If we don't have it here now it will be a week or so. Worth the wait, especially if you have the Pit Bull rear. - Van
I've got 8 pairs of stands from Pit-Bull. Had most of them for over 12-15 years and they work and look just as good as day one. Pay a little more; get value.
You are a smart man for sure. - Van
8pairs? you must have lot of bikes
I watched a 14 minute Ad
This is good advice coming from someone who knows what the fuck they are talking about. You're welcome! - Brian Van
dude that 50 dollar Chinese stand is plenty good for the value.
lol how good is a stand if you can`t rely on supporting your $20K+ bike on it??
first thing first man you are super strong and about stand I don't have a motorcycle so i am cool
and your colour changed white to red at 10:49
The best thing about this channel is you show the real truth that riders value.
Appreciate you! - Van
I have 8 pit bull stands as of today! One of them is 11 years old. Still looks new!
Over the years I have seen very few issues with Pit Bull products. So few you could damn near call it no issues. I bought my first Pit Bull stand in 2002 from them directly before I started STG. Pretty sure that was the stand I gave to Jimmy's roommate to replace his junk stand I tore up in the video. - Brian Van
I cant afford a new bike so thanks for this man. Most appreciated
Yea dude... Bending stands like a pro :)
was at a new bike shop in my area..
thought of giving them some business..
just an oil change..
they took time to check my chain slack and brake pads/fluid..
but what made me their return customer was when a hayabusa came in
the owner went to get an Oxford stand from local retailer
he knew cheap ones cant take the weight
willing to fork out money for us customers
thats a mark of a great owner.
Hello, I have a question that you can hopefully help me with. So I have MZS Spools on Yamaha R6 and I just bought a cheap Harbor Freight and it doesn't fit that size. For the Pitbull will it fit the MZS Spools?
I am not familiar with the MZS spools. That said I do have some experience with their levers which are complete shit and have caused several riders front brakes to lock. Given that I would not install anything produced by MZS on a bike I actually liked. - Van
You get what you pay for, sometimes it’s just a name but quality is worth the premium.
I have one of those Track Side stands, and it's not all bad. It works great for storing or wrenching on my superlight sport bikes (Cagiva Mito, Aprilia RS125, Suzuki RG125) but I wouldn't use it to hold up any of my big bikes. Pitbull all the way.
What a load of 'Shite'.
No bike ever puts stresses through its frame like you have just demonstrated. All you have proven is that you are an American with muscles, that likes the sound of his own voice.
I have that second stand you destroyed, it has served me well for years, with some big heavy bikes on it too.
Take a chill pill fella and get your facts straight. ☺️
The second stand I destroyed is an absolute piece of garbage from the workmanship to the materials used. This becomes incredibly clear when you have the opportunity to lift a bike with it and compare it to the Pit Bull or Woodcraft products which I have done. - Brian Van
Sportbike Track Gear
I am not sure what you mean by, " this is becomes incredibly clear when you lift a bike with it".
I have lifted Pan Europeans, Honda CB1000R, Aprilia Tuono APRC, BMW S1000XR, All without issue or distortion of any way.
This must make it a complete piece of garbage!
RUclips sensationalism does not make for truthful and factual information.
Whatever floats you boat I suppose.
Keep up the good work!
That is ironic sarcasm just incase you missed it!!!!!! 😎
I too have the second stand you broke and I agree that these stands do not have to have much lateral strength. I'm 100kg and I've had my zx14r on these stands with me on it and guess what? No damage. No bending or flexing and my bikes live on their stand after 2 years zero issues. Show us how the stands break with bikes on them as they are designed for.
Yeah..... didn't think so. Nice gains.
All due respect that stand is complete garbage. Have you ever had the opportunity to compare it to a Pit Bull and use both? - Van
It is beyond me why you would lift any bike with that low quality stand, especially high end bikes like those you have listed. Have you ever had the opportunity to lift a bike with a Pit Bull stand to compare? If you have not you need to get that done then add a couple more comments. - Brian Van
how come you didn't have dynamoto ? could you make a video on them ?
I do not believe Dynamoto stands are distributed here in the US. - Van
Well we cant get Pit Bull stands here is Australia unless you know where I can get them in Brisbane Queensland ?
Sorry I do not know if they have an Au distributor. We ship the Au but the stands are expensive to ship internationally. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear Yeh its a shame there is no supplier here in Australia, think most people get them from Ebay, especially the Swingarm version for the rear, very very cheap but no were near the quality of the PitBull ? Thanks for the reply.
I’m surprised this guy can breathe with that small shirt.
Between the skateboarding shoes, affliction jeans, and button-splitting small shirt, I bet this guy is a real hoot to hangout with...
Shirt fits a little tighter in the winter man. I wear what I want to wear and have no concern for what other people have to say about it. - Van
I want to see this guys gym workout complete animal.
This guy is so intense it’s hilarious... this guy could prob beat you to death with your own arms... 😂😂
Great video as usual. Just wish i saw this before i bought my trackside stand. wasnt trying to save money. It just seemed like a quality stand at the time. Fortunately havent had an issue yet with my trackside stand. Holds my RC51, my baby. Definitely in the market for a Pitbull stand now.
Going to order my stands from y’all after work today! Thanks for the video
You are welcome for the video and thank you for your business! - Van
Hi, nice video !
I bought my first bike, a 2016 Kawasaki ER6N (replaced by the Z650 since 2017)
What stand from Pitbull would you recommend for this bike ?
Thank you guys
Assuming this bike accepts swingarm spools I would go with the Pit Bull Spooled Rear Stand. Here is a link to it on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/pit-bull-spooled-rear-motorcycle-stand/
Apologies for the late response, I missed a few comments. - Brian Van
@@sportbiketrackgear no problem thank you Brian
Damn... that video makes this all clear as day. I have to be honest, I have had the shit stands for ages and never thought about it.
I have a 15 year old Pitbull Rear Stand--Still works just like the day I got it. Can't say that about many products (ok, maybe my firearms).
unless you want to do suspension work - Watch this video of the $89 dollar Harbor Freight jack, the one that allows front and rear suspension work - ruclips.net/video/2PPgWa4BcjU/видео.html
Alright, I need more videos of you breaking cheap motorcycle accessories and tools lol.
No problem, stay tuned more to come for sure. - Van
This video helped confirm my decision to purchase a pitbull stand. Thanks guys
Brian, thank you so much for being a rider's advocate. Your time is money so thank you for taking the time to make this video.
You are welcome and thank you for watching! - Van
I would like to know who made your watch?
That is an Invicta watch, have a couple and really like them a lot. - Van
Pitbull must have paid you well man. Lol
Zero compensation for this or any other Pit Bull related video we have done over the years. Bottom line is their products are the benchmark in our industry. Anyone who owns one knows this to be accurate. - Van
Yeah, even if he is being compensated the info is accurate
@@chauboii yet my 50 dollar stand has never failed for years. LOL just don't be a fucking asshole with ur bike when it's on a stand. Mind you my bike weighs barely 400 lbs
@@bobfrankfurt9449 Well I own a pitbull stand and this thing will never fail. Iwoudn't trust my $19,000 BMW to a $50 stand. If you can afford quality then why wouldn't you buy it.
@@TheBeagleBrigade I get it, but like I said I don't play around much with the bike when it's on the stand. It holds it perfectly fine being a smaller bike (2019 MT-09). I would also recommend getting the Pitbull IF you can afford it. Some can't.
you need a bigger shirt
or lose a couple pounds. - Van
You wouldn't keep 17k in a bank vault with a screen door... Brutal truth.
I may need to borrow this analogy, awesome! - Brian Van
Aint1S 17k in a bank vault ? Ahahaha ! Now we all know your life savings my friend ! I think the proper term would be A Million .. 17k ahahaha ...
Watch this video of the $89 dollar Harbor Freight jack, the one that allows front and rear suspension work - ruclips.net/video/2PPgWa4BcjU/видео.html
Using the price of a bike as your number when discussing a bike is totally stupid, right? Sure, he could have used a bigger number, but why is it necessary?
And this is some common term, where there's some sense of "proper" now? I think you're just being An Idiot .. ahahaha ...
I think that's a young guy thing or one who's never went on the mile slide. That's a way too common truth in cheap, but as long as they look the part... Then everyone's insurance goes up because of cheap gear, parts, and a bad injury combined due to nature of cheap. They may save a few dollars, but the group will pay the price as insurers calculate new risk assessment for another year.
I ordered the Harris stand from Yamaha to use with their oem gp hooks. Any feelings on that one?
Harris makes good stuff for sure. I have not seen this stand as their products are not currently distributed here in the US. Hard to to form an accurate opinion without seeing the stand myself to be fair. - Van
Hello I was watching your video . And thank you for the heads up . I am in the market buying a stand for my motorcycle. I need your opinion about this brand ? The brand is called dynamotousa? Should I buy it ?
I have never seen nor used one of their stands which makes it hard to have an opinion. What I have seen I will say the Dynamoto appear to be more for storage than service or tire warmer use. - Van
Just kind of wanted to add.... PitBull And WoodCraft best hands down! don't cheap out on spools! They break bike falls as well!
Good call! - Van
Great PSA on the benefit of quality parts, keep up these videos. I'd like to see a comparison of cheap rear sets.
We will have a rearset comparison in the next few weeks. - Van
I learned my lesson with Harbor Freight stands. lol However, I'm too cheap for Pitbull stands, but the ones I have now are great, have had them for years.
Hey cycle cruza love you
Godless commie!
May I ask, I'm new to motorcycle paddock stand.. I feel there's a lot of pressure on front wheel pushing it down while on rear paddock stand which never happens on conventional main/center stand. Are paddock stands generally safe for the suspensions and tires for storing the bike, like I'm just using the bike once or twice a week. thank you guys
Yes it is safe to use a stand to store the bike and while performing maintenance on it. That said we do recommend using the best stands you can afford as they offer more strength and stability than the cheap ones will. - Van
I had cheap stands and upgraded to PitBulls. If you work on your bike occasionally and not sure if you will do so in the future, go with cheap stands. If you're using them at least once a month or plan on doing more and more work to the bike, go with PitBulls. It's worth the investment. Cheap stands are pretty sketchy for the rears without spindles, but they get the job done
We are on the same page for sure. - Van
Truthfully Low cost low quality . Build in U.S does not mean good quality , American cars 💩
Watch this video of the $89 dollar Harbor Freight jack, the one that allows front and rear suspension work - ruclips.net/video/2PPgWa4BcjU/видео.html
Built in the US is not a global stamp of quality. Both Pit Bull and Woodcraft produce quality products here in the US. As for cars I drive GM products (spent most of my former career in a Cadillac dealer as a tech) and have some issues for sure but overall completely satisfied. Over the years I have worked on nearly every make and model vehicle, they all have their issues IMO. - Brian Van
YOU WERE A TECH AND NOT A CAR SALESMAN?.........ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT BRIAN?
You're my new favorite person! - Van
2016 mustang loving it! American all the way! And I'm from the Caribbean
Making motorcycle stands great again!
I usually love your build videos but this one is over the top I've been racing or 12 years now have many many stands of many brands and they all work fine yes my pitbull and woodcraft stands are top quality and love them but I have 100$ stands just as good and just as well made. If you use them as intended they will never fail if you bend them abuse them yeah they will ALL break it all comes out to how much abuse you send their way. Like I said I usually like what you do but this video is pushing the limits of product promotion to the point of ridicule. The fact that you took time and attacking people giving their own opinions on the subject matter in the comment section makes you look a bit sour and doesn't look good from a potential costumer. Do you treat your costumers the same way when they have issues with a product sold by STG and they are not satisfied or has defaults? I'm sorry but you came out as "" I know what best and who cares what you think in the end I'm right your wrong and thats that ""
Like I said I like what you guys do and the subject matter you put out but this one is a strike in my books these stands should have been promoted with a bias perspective from a shop that sell many different stands. This is only my opinion on what I have watched it doesn't define who you are and I'm not attacking your person nor your integrity in any way just a simple observation. Keep the good content coming Van!
This is not meant to be an attack on anyone. I did this to show there is a difference between the quality stands and the cheap ones. Most people will never have the opportunity to handle all of the different brands to experience the difference. When you shop stands on the internet there is a ton of misinformation out there from fake product reviews to pages comparing motorcycle stands created by and affiliate marketing firm that has never handled any of the products they write about. - Brian Van
So he likes only the good stuff...so what...its his business. It also helps to know if you buy from him...its good stuff. ALOT of companies do this. And if you think this is bad, look at his Ninja 400 King Of Exhaust video. Used car sales shit there. But atleast you know your getting good stuff from his store.
Do these superior stands come with a lifetime warranty?
Pit Bull stands behind their products 100%. If there is an issue they handle it, all you have to do is reach out to them. In all the years I have sold and used their stuff I have never seen one fail. - Van
Does this guy have a website to buy motorcycle stuff? Just got 2023 GsxR 1000 and want a slip on exhaust
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/
Haha so good! Really appreciate you guys.
Bri Guy kul
I mean lets be real here, Van has arms big enough to tear a GSX-R into two pieces.
Watching this video as my Triump sits on that Trackside stand in the garage haha...great. Hope I can sleep...
I have the trackside rear stand. No issues at all. My bikes are light though, Grom and Z400
So I got a trackside rear and front stand, and well the rear stand works but I cannot for the life of me get the front stand to work, every time I try it the wheel slips off when lifting. I think its because the right side of the stand wasn't level with the left side... so Im gonna go return it and get a pit bull front stand...
Where can you get these in EU?
Not sure if Pit Bull has any European dealers. You can find them at www.pit-bull.com/
my $50K Ducati Speciale only sits on a Pitbull stand!
The only stand a bike like that should ever sit on! - Van
Salesman, why would you sit on a stand anyway🤷🏾♂️. I like some of your videos but you are compromising some of your integrity by making this one
If you ride on the track you will need to sit on the bike when it is on the stands frequently. Notice that we use a race bike in this video, no lights etc... This video is full of good information with a little humor sprinkled on top. This video is most relevant for sport riders that are already on the track or intend to do so in the future. I am a salesman that invests a ton of time and effort into helping the riders that shop at STG choose products they will be satisfied with. - Brian Van
Sportbike Track Gear that does seem reasonable
I would LOVE to have a pitbull OR a woodcraft but im just a poor ass so couldnt afford it. I wish you would of done a bargain budget option bc i guarantee you my t-rex stand would fit that option, an extremely good stand for 2nd best and only 60 something dollars. (Think they raised there prices now though)
I just checked their web site. The Pitbull/Woodcraft are less than $150, your bike probably costs thousands of dollars. The difference between the two pricewise is less than $90 bucks!
Why would you risk it? That's probably less than the average one month cable OR cell phone bill.
CorkKNIFE you CAN NOT bend my stand like those did, the stand i bought is not low budget like that. Im not risking my bike at all, my bike cost 6gs my 2 stands were like 120 something, so less than 1 pitbull which was over 150 in the options I'd want. No risk here at all as a T-rex stand is made of thick gauge metal just like a pitbull, just not all the features. I was just offering a second bargain budget option for people who dont wanna pay over 150 dollars for some basic metal welded up.
Go on craigslist mate....I've never paid over $50 for any ANY pitibull stand I owned....and I had/have quite a few
How 2 Desmo ya true if your willing to wait but in my town i saw one in a year.
Tyler Dirden I'm just saying it's doable, mate. Back in the day I've purchased brand new pitbull for $150...right now I have 4, which cost me in total $200... if I had silver spoon in my moth it would be a different story, but with wife, kid and bills to pay I'm cool with used stuff...works just as good
What about the quality of the driven stands?
The Driven stands and the Vortex are on the exact same level IMO. Both of them are a reasonable middle of the road product. The Woodcraft and Pit Bull are still the best brands on the market today. - Van
Have you reviewed the dynamoto front and rear stand?
We have not seen these stands in person. For the track riding we do I am not sure they would get the job done as they look like they are more for storage purposes. - Van
Thanks for the response.
Somebody get Brian a bigger shirt. :D
razorbackblood06 lol
I bought the Pit Bull front and rear stands after watching this video. I never knew there was such a difference in quality. These stands are amazingly solid! Thank you!!!
You are welcome! - Van
I love my Bursig Stands=)
Five years later and I just ordered the woodcraft rear for my 23 Z650 looking forward to it.
You will love it and it will last for years. - Van
Awesome reviews. After finding your site (and watching your videos) I only order my gear from STG now. Only guy or site I trust for honest gear reviews.
Thank you for the kind words and your business! - Van
the only stand i have is pitbull .....and i was sold on it last year when you mad a vid on how to replace the rear breaks on your r1. and you had that attachment the helps you lift the tire while its in the stand .....i needed that in my life haha....great vid ...and yiu guys have some of the best customer service....just meed to know how to use my points from the site....lol
Thanks for watching and the orders! Odds are if you are having trouble getting the points applied you are using PayPal Express or Amazon Pay from the "Cart" page and not clicking the "Proceed To Checkout" button. If you make payment directly from the cart the STG Cash does not get applied. Try that and if you have any further issues please email me directly at service@sportbiketrackgear.com - Brian Van
Sportbike Track Gear aww ok well darn it i used paypal.....
Jblizz510 You can use PayPal and get the rewards all you need to do is go to the checkout page.
That way usually works for me. At times I do have to back out and re-log in to get it to show up there, but I've never had it completely fail to show up for me.
Sportbike Track Gear thank you sir....ill have to see what i may be not doing right lol.....x-mas is coming and i want somthing for my 2016 r1....great customer service even on youtube.....much love BV can wait to ride with yall one day ....everyone at STG is awsome
For anyone wondering, I've climbed all over my bike with Pit Bull stands and it didn't move an inch!
To my roommate Matt- sorry about your junk stand dawg
Thanks for the stands Matt! Enjoy the replacement I sent home with Jimmy. - Brian Van
Hey thanks for the gym ideas man, now I know I can use my china stand for chest flyes and single arm rows, haha.
Can't think of a better use for them. - Van
Haven’t got my track bike yet but how much are the pit bull . Woodcraft ship to Brisbane Australia if you selling them in aus dollars
The only way to get a proper quote is to enter in all your details on the site with the products in the cart. They are heavy so the shipping is not cheap. That said the Woodcraft ship in a smaller box and would be a little less to ship than the Pit Bull which require a pretty large box. - Van
How do you feel about Dynamoto stands?
They are not readily available here in the US and I have never seen one in person. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear yes, they are available. I have one set and just ordered my second set. I wanted your take on them, but from personal experience they are fine and very convenient moving the bike around in my garage. You can move the bike in any direction with the greatest of ease. Stephen I believe is the owner I contacted him directly and he gave me a promo code as well. Btw thanks again for the t-shirt back at Laguna Seca. You and your wife are awesome. See you later this summer at Laguna hopefully.