my favourite best turntable in the world will always be the Linn LP12 - after 20 years full use in my posession this 40 year old classic will never break down and is solid and dependable, other designs such as your Rega and the notoriously unreliable Pink Triangles may sound better, as i have never heard them i cannot say if they do. If i needed to buy another or replacement turntable for any reason and spend £2500 from my own experience i would always choose a second hand Linn Sondek as its reliability and quality of sound is time served, if can you send me a Rega Naia to test for 20 years i will admit i am wrong if the Naia lasts nearly as long or sounds as good as or better (-;
Hi Phil,your remarks about the musicality of the Rega struck a chord if you will. Dabbled with Linn and Thorens, accompanied by Grace et al, however a Planar 3 turned out to be the table I should always have bought. A lot of my LPs aren't perfect, however the Rega playing always makes me smile. They do music, beginning, middle, end of. Thanks for the work you put into the channel, cheers from NZ
You'd be doing the deck a disservice if you plan to listen/compare it on that heavy coffee table type table you just put it on, these decks P8, P10, Naia all benefit sonically & actually perform the way they should by sitting on a lightweight spiked and rigid type stand, think Archidee or SoundOrg type. In my experience placing my P10, and now my Naia on a massive and heavy type stand/table adds unwanted & unnatural weight/heaviness colorations to the performance. And yes, I agree with you that the new Naia is really a gamechanger, sold off my LP12 -owned several over the past 35+ years- after the P10 came into my life a few years back, and now the Naia, not going back.
It’s not a coffee table. It’s a AV version of the Atacama EQUINOX EVO range. Extremely good racks. Bamboo shelves with cutouts on the underside to reduce vibrations, individually spiked shelves.
@@andrewlittleboy8532 It's still to heavy, instead of arguing with me why just don't you do an A/B with a very lighweight & rigid dedicated TT stand, I've personally been thru many different shelves/racks/stands and in the case of these lightweight Rega decks the lighter & more rigid the better. ...And yes, what you're using might as well be a coffee table it's so massive, heavy & damped.
Everyone else is ripping you a new one so I'll have ago. I lived in England for a couple of yrs in the early 1990's. My question is that a Radiator/room heating element right behind your table????
If the bearing tolerances are superbly tight, that actually won't be necessary. I have had a specific turntable in my past that had such an air-tight engineering wonder. It's impressive when you encounter it! It's not new and has been available for decades, but it is certainly not cheap to accomplish.
Regas low mass designs are remarkable, but being a very shallow individual, I like giant heavy platters and plinths which look expensive rather than just being expensive.
I've had my Naia exactly 1 month and can vouch for its supremacy. Actually i was in shock at first, and there has been 'break-in' time. Its sound has gradually lost a 'bright edge', has deepened, and become more listenable. The dynamics can be truly staggering, the detail, the sheer 'reality' you hear on a well made recording can actually almost make you laugh. A bad LP sounds bad, a great LP sounds lifelike, stupendous. It seems to magnify the differences between discs. World's best ? well thats subjective. But i can safely say that as i am now in my 60's that this is my last ever turntable.
Clearly it's the best Rega ever. But there are many other amazing turntables from others such as: Vertere, SME and the Super exotic Wilson Benesch GMT1. But as you pay more, there's the law of diminishing returns...
Rega performed stress tests of the materials in various environmental extreme tests in an attempt to age it, the material did not change. The 1mm(ish) sag observed only really in the P6 is a natural bow, depending where the plinth has been cut out of, of the the sheets of the material when manufactured.
I have heard it, but it was a fairly pointless dem as it was playing through there (rega )speakers which are awful imo. What i did notice was a digital type of sound. I didn't here the warmth mentioned here, However there was detail and the mid and highs were nice, but the sound is not to my taste and thats the bottom line in audio. Some peoples amazing sound can be different for others. I have a cdp that sounds as detailed but warmer than this turntable and I would go for a linn because it sounds analogue and not digital.
I've not seen or read any reviews about the Naia, but everyone seems to be ranting and raving about it, and If its as good as people say it is, then well done Rega. However, at this price point I would have thought a screw down clamp and fully balanced tonearm cables should be given as an option. Also the PSU is way to big and ugly and has all the appeal of a house brick. Let's hope the cable is long enough to hide it away out of sight.
I am confident P8, P10 / Naia / Naiad is better but it commands a significant cost premium.... There will be better of anything in life.. Just a matter of $....
@@ptg01I’ve owned the P3, P6,P8, and currently the P10. Each step up slaps the shit outta the version before. So yes. You are correct. The detail retrieval and bass precision/tightness goes way up with each level. Also much quieter background as well.
@@mikechivy must be wrong video. I was replying to small room system, Phil was recommending record player. Daft For small room wiim has it all, streamer, amp, dac, subwoofer bass management, room EQ.
@@LetThereBeSound1 I must of misunderstood. All I know is that I cannot use my phono stage with Rega's because of the ground wire. Here is the quote: as long as your tonearm wiring doesn't tie chassis common ground to the cartridge's signal leads-which means that unless you operate on it, you can't use your Rega tonearm with the Channel D.
@@BobCoalWater Well that's strange. And you have tested this theory in real life? I guess your Channel D phono stage requires that a tonearm be also grounded to the phono stage as well ( the traditional way ). Well that would be a first. I have setup and sold countless Rega turntables in my 40 year career and have never found this problem which seems more like an idiosyncrasy of their particular phono stage than anything else.
@@LetThereBeSound1 It's a transimpedance phono-pre, I'm also limited to low impedance cartridges which bothers me more, now that my cadenza black needs changing soon, but this pre (Lino C2) is so darn good.
@@BobCoalWater I take it you are not currently using a Rega tune table or a Rega tonearm on a different turntable but you may be considering it? I guess you have a big decision to make. Keeping that phono or buying a Rega turntable and then getting a different phono stage? Hmm. Decisions decisions!
@@jdekong3945 This, I realise. The emphasis is on 'Rega'. The Naiad is the best 'Rega' and the 'Naia' is the second best 'Rega'. But they are neither the best, nor second best turntables in the world..... by a very long way.
@@dirtharris I think you would need to spend a ton of money above the cost of the Rega decks to better them, in real world amounts of cash they are class leaders
"The second best Turntable in the world"? ...I'm sorry but that is not a bold statement,but a hyperbole statement,and frankly I expect better from someone,who has spent so many years around HI-FI.
And digital audio will blow it out of the water all day, everyday. HiFi guys just love listening to component artefacts and saying that it sounds better .It's as dumb as a box of, well, ....... turntables
The plinth is Graphene impregnated Carbon Fibre with Tancast 8 foam core
my favourite best turntable in the world will always be the Linn LP12 - after 20 years full use in my posession this 40 year old classic will never break down and is solid and dependable, other designs such as your Rega and the notoriously unreliable Pink Triangles may sound better, as i have never heard them i cannot say if they do. If i needed to buy another or replacement turntable for any reason and spend £2500 from my own experience i would always choose a second hand Linn Sondek as its reliability and quality of sound is time served, if can you send me a Rega Naia to test for 20 years i will admit i am wrong if the Naia lasts nearly as long or sounds as good as or better (-;
Best dollar for dollar turntable on the market . Just kije the the p10 p6 p8 p6 . They can be put against anytging in their price range and win.
Hi Phil,your remarks about the musicality of the Rega struck a chord if you will. Dabbled with Linn and Thorens, accompanied by Grace et al, however a Planar 3 turned out to be the table I should always have bought. A lot of my LPs aren't perfect, however the Rega playing always makes me smile. They do music, beginning, middle, end of. Thanks for the work you put into the channel, cheers from NZ
Now you've unboxed it in full view of the world it's technically an ex-dem model - what sort of discount are you offering? :)
The day after unboxing 100% of the price 60%of the time
Very impressive turntable. Takes on turntables costing 100k. I use mine with a DS Audio Master 3. Magical.
Uhh that's a hard no. It doesn't even take on a a proper 12k+ level turntables to be honest. What are you guys smoking?
@@LetThereBeSound1 ok. So what 12k+ plus turntable have you heard or owned that you feel is better.
I'm happy with my p3.. Tbh.
Superb turntable!!
You'd be doing the deck a disservice if you plan to listen/compare it on that heavy coffee table type table you just put it on, these decks P8, P10, Naia all benefit sonically & actually perform the way they should by sitting on a lightweight spiked and rigid type stand, think Archidee or SoundOrg type. In my experience placing my P10, and now my Naia on a massive and heavy type stand/table adds unwanted & unnatural weight/heaviness colorations to the performance. And yes, I agree with you that the new Naia is really a gamechanger, sold off my LP12 -owned several over the past 35+ years- after the P10 came into my life a few years back, and now the Naia, not going back.
It’s not a coffee table. It’s a AV version of the Atacama EQUINOX EVO range. Extremely good racks. Bamboo shelves with cutouts on the underside to reduce vibrations, individually spiked shelves.
@@andrewlittleboy8532 It's still to heavy, instead of arguing with me why just don't you do an A/B with a very lighweight & rigid dedicated TT stand, I've personally been thru many different shelves/racks/stands and in the case of these lightweight Rega decks the lighter & more rigid the better. ...And yes, what you're using might as well be a coffee table it's so massive, heavy & damped.
Please show some numbers to back this claim. This is a ridiculous statement and utter garbage.
Do you raise your speaker cables off the ground too?
Collaro makes the mats for these decks.
Everyone else is ripping you a new one so I'll have ago. I lived in England for a couple of yrs in the early 1990's. My question is that a Radiator/room heating element right behind your table????
Thanks for showing. I wonder about that there was no transport secure underside the inner platter for the bearing??
If the bearing tolerances are superbly tight, that actually won't be necessary. I have had a specific turntable in my past that had such an air-tight engineering wonder. It's impressive when you encounter it! It's not new and has been available for decades, but it is certainly not cheap to accomplish.
Regas low mass designs are remarkable, but being a very shallow individual, I like giant heavy platters and plinths which look expensive rather than just being expensive.
Do you drive BMW?
@@gdwlaw5549do you drive a Toyota corolla😂 🎉
@@gdwlaw5549 I drive a go-cart with a lawn mower engine mounted backside. Really spiffy! Don't be jealous, git yer own! 😂🤣👍🍺🍺
@@gdwlaw5549 Nope, a Cupra Ateca. Looks cheap but performs great. Kind of defeats my argument.
I used to have a BMW but it was sh*t.
@@jimfarrell4635 I can tell what turntable they have by what they drive! :=)
I've had my Naia exactly 1 month and can vouch for its supremacy. Actually i was in shock at first, and there has been 'break-in' time. Its sound has gradually lost a 'bright edge', has deepened, and become more listenable. The dynamics can be truly staggering, the detail, the sheer 'reality' you hear on a well made recording can actually almost make you laugh. A bad LP sounds bad, a great LP sounds lifelike, stupendous. It seems to magnify the differences between discs. World's best ? well thats subjective. But i can safely say that as i am now in my 60's that this is my last ever turntable.
All those people with opinions and that probably never heard the Naia. So thumbs up for your reaction.
Perhaps for £2500
Clearly it's the best Rega ever. But there are many other amazing turntables from others such as: Vertere, SME and the Super exotic Wilson Benesch GMT1. But as you pay more, there's the law of diminishing returns...
I love this player. but a little out of my price league 🙃
‘Why’s that light flickering?’ 👻😹
I do wonder how the foam core holds up over time, I know some have sagged on various models?
Rega performed stress tests of the materials in various environmental extreme tests in an attempt to age it, the material did not change. The 1mm(ish) sag observed only really in the P6 is a natural bow, depending where the plinth has been cut out of, of the the sheets of the material when manufactured.
$17k US with an Aphelion 2.
I have heard it, but it was a fairly pointless dem as it was playing through there (rega )speakers which are awful imo.
What i did notice was a digital type of sound.
I didn't here the warmth mentioned here,
However there was detail and the mid and highs were nice, but the sound is not to my taste and thats the bottom line in audio.
Some peoples amazing sound can be different for others.
I have a cdp that sounds as detailed but warmer than this turntable and I would go for a linn because it sounds analogue and not digital.
You like a less accurate sound and that’s okay. But that’s what it is…
Rega Naia : the world's first innovating turntable !!...👍👍
How does it compare to a Michell gyro se? I’ve owned mine for 20 year and never compared it to anything else.
It blows it out of the water. The Michell is not even close to the P10, let alone this.
I've not seen or read any reviews about the Naia, but everyone seems to be ranting and raving about it, and If its as good as people say it is, then well done Rega. However, at this price point I would have thought a screw down clamp and fully balanced tonearm cables should be given as an option. Also the PSU is way to big and ugly and has all the appeal of a house brick. Let's hope the cable is long enough to hide it away out of sight.
I am happy with my P3 at the moment
I am confident P8, P10 / Naia / Naiad is better but it commands a significant cost premium.... There will be better of anything in life.. Just a matter of $....
Heck, i'm happy with my RP1 at the moment LOL
@@ptg01I’ve owned the P3, P6,P8, and currently the P10. Each step up slaps the shit outta the version before. So yes. You are correct. The detail retrieval and bass precision/tightness goes way up with each level. Also much quieter background as well.
Wiim amp. Streamer, amp, DAC, and bass management all in one
Huh? I’m confused at this comment
Are you saying the WiiM amp is better or something?
@@mikechivy must be wrong video. I was replying to small room system, Phil was recommending record player. Daft
For small room wiim has it all, streamer, amp, dac, subwoofer bass management, room EQ.
@@user-gf7kj5vj3p I have one in my bedroom. Love it lol
Are there tonearms still ungrounded?
They were never ungrounded. Who told you that? They are simply internally grounded.
@@LetThereBeSound1 I must of misunderstood. All I know is that I cannot use my phono stage with Rega's because of the ground wire. Here is the quote: as long as your tonearm wiring doesn't tie chassis common ground to the cartridge's signal leads-which means that unless you operate on it, you can't use your Rega tonearm with the Channel D.
@@BobCoalWater Well that's strange. And you have tested this theory in real life?
I guess your Channel D phono stage requires that a tonearm be also grounded to the phono stage as well ( the traditional way ). Well that would be a first.
I have setup and sold countless Rega turntables in my 40 year career and have never found this problem which seems more like an idiosyncrasy of their particular phono stage than anything else.
@@LetThereBeSound1 It's a transimpedance phono-pre, I'm also limited to low impedance cartridges which bothers me more, now that my cadenza black needs changing soon, but this pre (Lino C2) is so darn good.
@@BobCoalWater I take it you are not currently using a Rega tune table or a Rega tonearm on a different turntable but you may be considering it?
I guess you have a big decision to make. Keeping that phono or buying a Rega turntable and then getting a different phono stage? Hmm. Decisions decisions!
You mean the second best Rega turntable in the world? That's better! Phil Dixon... doing clickbait? What's the world coming to?😆
Think he’s referring to the Naiad being the best
@@jdekong3945 This, I realise. The emphasis is on 'Rega'. The Naiad is the best 'Rega' and the 'Naia' is the second best 'Rega'. But they are neither the best, nor second best turntables in the world..... by a very long way.
@@dirtharriscomp to price tho? Whats better but not more expencive? Oh lp12, all oracle tt, ar, gyrodeck+++😂
@@dirtharris I think you would need to spend a ton of money above the cost of the Rega decks to better them, in real world amounts of cash they are class leaders
No suspension? No thanks.
I dont like all them holes cut in plinth. And that lid looks like it belongs on a toilet. ❤
Yeah, that dust cover is a definite no-go for me, too. It does look like a spare toilet seat cover, indeed. 😅
The fetishim reaches a new level with this. For obsessive Rega fan boys with more money than sense.
The best turntable in the world...
Technics 1210's 👍
Hmmm. The newer SP-10 flagship would rock my boat, set up with an SME V-12 pickup arm, ooohh, yeah!! 👍🍺
"The second best Turntable in the world"? ...I'm sorry but that is not a bold statement,but a hyperbole statement,and frankly I expect better from someone,who has spent so many years around HI-FI.
I agree. Even the NAIAD would be easily be outclassed amongst some of the decks that Fremmer shows on his channel.
@@andrewlittleboy8532 its a subjective judgment...so nobody can make that claim.
@@clippyPaperanyone can say this, because they said it. You can say something different and it would be truthful to you.
Watch the video - at the end Phil admits he's 'being a bit naughty' but has his reasons...
Could that reason be ,he is a REGA dealer? @@martinscase3904
Ridiculously overrated and overpriced, you can’t even adjust VTA or azimuth.
And digital audio will blow it out of the water all day, everyday. HiFi guys just love listening to component artefacts and saying that it sounds better .It's as dumb as a box of, well, ....... turntables
Very ugly table, not my style