How to Glue On Car/Truck Rocker Panels - No Welding!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • Shows how to glue on a car or truck rocker panel with SEM impact resistant panel adhesive. No welding! Tools and materials are listed below.
    *Glue: SEM Structural Impact Resistant Adhesive - Part Number 39757
    *Drill: Mac Tools
    *Air Hammer: Older Chicago Pneumatic & Older Rodac (Red)
    *Chisel Bit for Air Hammer: shop.snapon.com/product/Slitt...
    *3/8" Impact - Sioux IW38HAP-3F
    *Electric Sander/Polisher: www.harborfreight.com/corded-...
    *Small Sander/grinder: www.harborfreight.com/5-in-hi...
    *Patch Panel/New Rocker Panel: Raybuck's Auto Body Parts or Mill Supply Inc.
    *Die grinder: www.harborfreight.com/1-4-qua...
    *Rivets: 3/16" - www.ebay.com/itm/265358328739...
    *Cut Off Wheel for Die Grinder: 3 In. X 1/16 In. X 3/8 In. Metal Cut-Off Wheels www.harborfreight.com/power-t...
    *Large Vise Grip Clamps: www.harborfreight.com/search?...
    *Other Clamps: Various C clamps and vise grips
    *Pointed Body Hammer: www.jbtools.com/martin-tools-...
    *36/40 Grit Fiber Resin Discs: benchmarkabrasives.com/collec...
    *Broken Cheese Grater Blade for Shaving Bondo: www.amazon.com/Stanley-21-299...
    *Body Filler: Auto Body Master lightweight body filler
    *Metal Spreaders: www.ebay.com/itm/191941112065...
    *Sand Paper (To Fold): www.ebay.com/itm/362600724326...
    *5" DA: National Detroit DA
    *Palm Sander DA: www.amazon.com/Random-Orbital...
    *Spray Gun: www.campbellhausfeld.com/spra...
    *Primer surfacer: Auto Body Master lacquer primer surfacer thinned with Auto Body Master lacquer thinner
    *Tape: 3M Auto Body Refinishing Tape
    / @lakesideautobody
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  • @robertfox321
    @robertfox321 2 года назад +7

    your videos are incredibly helpful. I love how you show every step. keep 'em coming!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +2

      Thanks Robert - I appreciate the support - have a great week :)

  • @josephpuchel6497
    @josephpuchel6497 2 года назад +2

    This is excellent work. Great job Jerry

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto Год назад +5

    What a great video, Jerry! I did a search and when I seen your video pop up, I knew I should look no further! Great explanation and step by step instructions. I will be doing this before the snow flys, I hope. Thanks again!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      You're welcome Uncle Mark. Let me know how it goes 😊

  • @csflmich2239
    @csflmich2239 2 года назад +27

    No matter the method, you always do top-notch work! Thanks for sharing your knowledge! I have learned a lot on your channel.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      I appreciate that my friend - have a good weekend :)

  • @georgechristilaw6282
    @georgechristilaw6282 Год назад +8

    I’m going to do my rockers and cab corners with the 3M adhesive. I am going to rivet the panels like you did. Use bono for the edges and grind down the rivet heads down enough and bondo them as well then prime and paint. But before I do all of that I will be painting the rust/ rot areas with a metal rust inhibitor first.

  • @davidbondy4359
    @davidbondy4359 2 года назад +6

    as usual great job,you don't know how to do bad work. you are a professional to the highest standard of the word.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      Thanks a lot David - I appreciate the kind words. Have a good week :)

  • @jimbass924
    @jimbass924 2 года назад +2

    Great video with detailed steps... easy to follow!

  • @bruceperron3796
    @bruceperron3796 2 года назад +2

    I used both glue and welds when i do bedsides and quarter panels,the new adhesives are really good nowadays.

  • @not-fishing4730
    @not-fishing4730 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video, it gives me options to welding and grinding. Also I love the finger painting, I thought I was the only one to do that.

  • @jtacree8510
    @jtacree8510 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks Jerry for the confidence on glueing my floor pans down , you do great work !

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  10 месяцев назад +1

      Let me know how it goes for you. Have a good weekend and thanks for the support :)

  • @davidbrown-55
    @davidbrown-55 2 года назад +5

    Beautiful work as always. You make it look easy.

  • @NoferTrunions
    @NoferTrunions Год назад +5

    Sure eliminates a bunch of welding!
    I like the idea of gluing the spot weal flanges since they will be sealed and not wick water.
    I've used self drilling, self tapping, washer head screw on flanges and laps which pull the pieces together nicely - then when all installed remove one at a time and pop-rivet if desired or a visible area.

  • @smaksymiv4950
    @smaksymiv4950 2 года назад +2

    Love how that stuff can adhere aluminum to steel panels ( my inner rocker panels are made of an old diamond plate tool box ) stuck like glue ... understatement of all time.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk Год назад

      It's a godsend for Smyth Ute conversions, mine actually has a stiffer chassis because of it's use instead of the rivets supplied with the kit.
      Haha modern technology,you can actually weld aluminum to steel now 😀

  • @J_R_Shop
    @J_R_Shop 2 года назад +2

    Excellent work! Thank you Jerry!

  • @RaysLaughsAndLyrics
    @RaysLaughsAndLyrics 2 года назад +2

    Nice option indeed. Thanks for sharing your time and talent. Have a great weekend.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome - you have a good weekend to my friend :)

  • @martymurphy9627
    @martymurphy9627 2 года назад +2

    Thank you, Jerry. Another great informative video.

  • @bigytv8392
    @bigytv8392 2 года назад +2

    Excellent, no BS video. Thanks!

  • @johnbarker5009
    @johnbarker5009 2 года назад +1

    That makes a really fine repair.

  • @MoOmran-zr5rf
    @MoOmran-zr5rf Год назад +1

    Beautiful piece of work sir! Thank you

  • @pstreetgarage7304
    @pstreetgarage7304 2 года назад +7

    Always amazed at how thin the mating surfaces are. Beautiful though. No welding or distortion.

    • @MikeOrazzi
      @MikeOrazzi 5 месяцев назад +1

      This might work on my Jeep. Thanks.

  • @husky1239
    @husky1239 2 года назад

    As always Jerry you do great job

  • @tykellerman6384
    @tykellerman6384 Год назад +1

    Looks great hard to imagine glue that strong🤠👍

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      Here it is a few years later if interested - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html

  • @davegallucci9327
    @davegallucci9327 2 года назад

    I was just thinking about glueing panels. U read my mind! Good video, Thanks!

  • @jayinmi3706
    @jayinmi3706 2 года назад +7

    I've been considering using this or a similar product to cover the sunroof opening in my car. Would be nice not to have to gut the interior to protect everything from weld sparks.

  • @bjr2379
    @bjr2379 2 года назад +2

    Another awesome video! Thanks! 👍

  • @buchanansleeve7427
    @buchanansleeve7427 2 года назад +1

    Looks great your work is awesome.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      Thanks Buchanan Sleeve - I appreciate the support :)

  • @raymeyers2163
    @raymeyers2163 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video's glad I found your channel. I am considering trying some similar work on my 2000 silverado and my 04 f250.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome. Let me know if you have questions. I answer once or twice a day. Jerry

  • @brucesheehe6305
    @brucesheehe6305 Год назад +1

    Amazing adhesive technology - used in new construction in autos and aircraft too.Just like Brylcream - a little dab will do ya! Jerry will save your ride!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      Thanks for the support Bruce - haven't seen or heard of that stuff in a while :)

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING 2 года назад +4

    Well done Bud!! Excellent repair!!☻

  • @308hit
    @308hit 2 года назад +2

    Nice work....

  • @elian222
    @elian222 2 года назад +1

    Yeap panel adhesive is the way to go now 👍

  • @gm-lb9oe
    @gm-lb9oe 2 года назад

    Great video Jerry thank you

  • @macpherson3182
    @macpherson3182 2 года назад

    nice job . wheni built my camper i boughtt a air riveter it really saved my hands

  • @billhayward2668
    @billhayward2668 2 года назад

    Turned out great.

  • @RedWhiteAndBlueVideo
    @RedWhiteAndBlueVideo 2 года назад +15

    I used screws on my cab corners but removed after the adhesive dried and covered with waterproof filler. Matter of fact the factory only had a couple spot welds and adhesive. I welded the rockers. I think next time I may tack and use panel bond. It is very strong, and in areas like my Silverado corners, I didn’t want to start the cab on fire.

    • @davegallucci9327
      @davegallucci9327 2 года назад +3

      That happened to one of my trucks. Caught the interior on fire. I still remember the call I received.

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk Год назад +2

      I just built a Smyth Ute from a Jetta.
      Using panelbond with the kit just made the chassis so much more solid, now when I jack the left front up to change the tire ,the right side follows, and is only like 1-2" from what the left side height is.
      No more dragging the jack from side to side to change tires 😂

    • @brianmccoy9708
      @brianmccoy9708 Год назад

      I wish I had I actually caught my cab on fire on my f250 I punched thru before I could get it out lost my seat belt inner panel an corner of seat think God its my work truck I'll just pull out back seat it's always full of tools anyway I dud my cab corners live an learn

  • @chrismedaris4873
    @chrismedaris4873 9 месяцев назад

    Your skills are amazing just saying ty for showing this

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  9 месяцев назад

      You're welcome Chris - glad you like these videos. Enjoy the week my friend :)

  • @HappyBarn-lv6bm
    @HappyBarn-lv6bm 3 месяца назад +1

    Great job

  • @stever3953
    @stever3953 Год назад

    Thanks for the video. I would like to try this some time

  • @justwatchingffs371
    @justwatchingffs371 7 месяцев назад

    Great video! If you were to do another one, some more detail of how to cut out the old panel to fit the new one could be helpful.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  7 месяцев назад

      Here's another - If you need more let me know, I'll send more 😊 ruclips.net/video/U67IHaurCaM/видео.html

  • @bobvee5037
    @bobvee5037 2 года назад

    nice job😎

  • @plumbucket65
    @plumbucket65 2 года назад +1

    Thanks

  • @darrenlub
    @darrenlub 2 года назад +1

    Bulk jb weld?. Great repair. Wish u were my neighbor..

  • @camarogtz1392
    @camarogtz1392 Год назад +1

    Nice

  • @joebaucom4537
    @joebaucom4537 2 года назад +1

    You Do Great Work !

  • @douglasdailey5998
    @douglasdailey5998 2 года назад +1

    Dang nice job. I wished i lived in your neck of the woods, my truck would be looking pretty sweet.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      Thanks Douglas - have a good week :)

    • @douglasdailey5998
      @douglasdailey5998 2 года назад

      @@LakesideAutobody you have a good week as well. I didn't notice what state are you in.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      @@douglasdailey5998 Michigan - used to live just east of Detroit :)

  • @WSallai
    @WSallai 2 месяца назад

    First-time viewer, now a subscriber. Thanks for showing us how to take care of rusty rocker panels without welding equipment. Your lighting, explanations, and demonstration of work were very good. I've seen some people on RUclips advocating the use of expanding foam inside the rocker panels. Would that be something to do to prevent rust from reoccurring or is it unnecessary?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 месяца назад

      Absolutely not necessary and blocks drainage. Ford tried that on Ranger quarter panels and it trapped moisture and thus rotted out the panels. Drainage and a squirt of oil at the bottom of the panel works the best - see video - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html

  • @genemyersmyers6710
    @genemyersmyers6710 2 года назад +1

    I wish i seen this a year ago,i went and did the quick covers instead.

  • @travr6
    @travr6 Год назад +1

    I was considering doing this but honestly welding seems so much easier.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      Welding is much easier but this gives you a 100% water tight seam (if you're concerned with that 😊)

  • @steveleston276
    @steveleston276 Год назад +2

    excellent video & workmanship, I don't have the 2 tube chaulk gun can I substitute your glue w/ 3m 5200 I use it on marine stuff and it's extremely strong. I was planning on fabbing my own panel out of alimiun buy hand forming. one rocker is a only 1/3 rusted other rocker is completely rotton.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      I really don't see why you couldn't. I glued in a whole van floor with metal roof adhesive and self tappers and once cured it wasn't going anywhere. Have a good weekend Steve :)

  • @cocopublicnews6766
    @cocopublicnews6766 2 года назад +1

    Seems better than riveting on a new floor pan

  • @darrickcover2200
    @darrickcover2200 2 года назад

    great job i bet this would outlast a welded in panel it seems the weld is the first place rust starts back

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      You're right - that is the weak link of a welded patch.

  • @kittydaddy2023
    @kittydaddy2023 Год назад

    Great video. I'm just going to live with the rust.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      I've done that too. Actually had a van that I just cut out all the rust and left the holes (painted them though). It stayed that way for 10+ years 'cause there was no place for the moisture, debris, mud and salt to settle. Give the water a way out and you're gold 🛠

    • @kittydaddy2023
      @kittydaddy2023 Год назад

      @@LakesideAutobody I'm going to keep watching the videos until I get up the courage to do it LOL

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      @@kittydaddy2023 You can do it - that's just the facts. You're first attempt may be a bit rough but after that you'll know what to do better the next time :)

    • @kittydaddy2023
      @kittydaddy2023 Год назад +1

      @@LakesideAutobody it's always scary cutting on your DD

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      @@kittydaddy2023 Especially if the neighbors like to watch :)

  • @technicalitems731
    @technicalitems731 2 года назад

    Love the content! Is there an issue with dissimilar metals? (Aluminum rivets against steel rocker parts).

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      I have never had a problem. You can leave the rivets out if you want. Just tap those holes down and fill with fiberglass reinforced filler first for waterproof filler. Then use your regular filler to finish up. I glue the rivets it so that's probably why there's no issues. Here's the follow up video on this repair - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html I appreciate the support TI - have a good Easter :)

  • @robertstaff
    @robertstaff 2 года назад +4

    Thats amazing. Bonding technology has come a long way. Would this be your first choice method or would you stick to familiar welding option?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +9

      If it was my truck, I would probably glue all rust repair simply because of the water tight seams. Certainly though there will be times that your only choice. Thanks for watching Robert - have a good weekend :)

  • @paullalande
    @paullalande Год назад +1

    Great video there is a reason body work is so expensive

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      You're right about that materials are $ and labor is $ :)

  • @jefferypowell9885
    @jefferypowell9885 2 года назад +2

    are we driving model cars that glue together

  • @t.e.1189
    @t.e.1189 Год назад

    Where is the previous video showing removing the welds, separating the rusty rocker and fixing up the inner panel? How many videos in all for this repair?
    Your videos are very informative and absolutely great! I hate loud annoying music and people pretending to know what their talking about and instead just passing on misinformation and wasting my time. Your videos are nothing like that. Thank you very much!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      I appreciate that T.E. - Here's every video on this truck: ruclips.net/p/PLOP9eoG14-I_5orQdo3G4zEQPXmCkaK4K & here's the previous video to this one - ruclips.net/video/NmsCrQ-7L0U/видео.html Finally, this is the other side but welded - it may help you out too - ruclips.net/video/U67IHaurCaM/видео.html

  • @rosshoffman8473
    @rosshoffman8473 Год назад

    If you we’re doing squarebody rockers how would you use rivets or would u use self tappers and after it dries remove and fill w more panel bond?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      Here's a video that may help - ruclips.net/video/2vEPQimW564/видео.html & these - ruclips.net/video/6RuoEhUZP9U/видео.html this is welding it in place - ruclips.net/video/Q3NMsZq09Uc/видео.html

  • @theartofwanderlust
    @theartofwanderlust 2 года назад

    Is this becoming the new normal, for body shops? What do you feel are the biggest advantages of this method? I no longer have a welder and was planning on repurchasing one for my project truck. I had no idea this product even existed.
    Great work, thanks for posting this

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      You're welcome. I've stopped at a few shops after retiring to see what's going on. I welded most of my career but many are now using glues because of the water proof seam. I do think it is a bit more challenging than welding a patch but I feel that the water tight seam is probably the way to go for maximum longevity :)

    • @clifftangeman905
      @clifftangeman905 Год назад

      I would have to say using glue is a much faster process safer hell no! Shops use to glue and have gotten away from this method because of the liability that comes with it! Your own project sure but it will fail at the seams why not just use seam sealer and not even fill the seams if your going rogue

  • @ericbutler856
    @ericbutler856 2 года назад

    I’m thinking about glueing the rockers on me 2006 Ford e 250 do you have any videos of you doing vans

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      I don't - sorry. Most rocker panels are very very similar though. I looked that rocker replacement up and it looks like you can glue around the whole perimeter. raybuck.com/product/1992-12-ford-van-front-oem-rocker-panel-driver-side/?gclid=CjwKCAjw9LSSBhBsEiwAKtf0nyrpJj__

  • @brandontomalewski8277
    @brandontomalewski8277 5 месяцев назад

    I might have to do my inner rockers never done anything like this before but I am mechanically inclined and know my way around tools. But my question is can you do the inner rockers the same way with the adhesive and rivets? I don’t own a welder nor have welding experience.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  5 месяцев назад

      Yes. Glue and rivets will work fine. You are only limited by your own imagination. Of course when it comes to frame work, or structural components, you'll want to weld. BTW you can learn to weld in 1 minute and a good gas mig welder is around 200 bucks - I'm in the middle of doing a review on one that will be around 150 :) Here's how easy it is...ruclips.net/video/1BYqLM_mY1s/видео.html

  • @captainjohnh9405
    @captainjohnh9405 2 года назад +1

    How much working time do you have with the glue, and what size rivets are you using? Thanks!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      You have plenty of time - like 2-3 hours. I used 3/16" x 3/8" - 3/8 is the length of the rivet. There's no worries at all about the stuff hardening up on you. It will take overnight for it to set up and allow you to continue working on the vehicle.

  • @atlmv3255
    @atlmv3255 4 месяца назад

    Do you have longterm review for wheel arch install with glue.?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  4 месяца назад +1

      It's still fine - one of my friends trucks. I'll do a follow up video on that - good idea. You can rest assured that it'll last as long as we're here on earth :)

  • @porschmn167
    @porschmn167 2 года назад +3

    I noticed you were using aluminum rivets, don't you worry about the two different metals reacting with each other especially in a area where they use salt on the roads?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +3

      I'm not worried at all because of these factors. 1) They are now buried or incased in glue and will not "see" moisture. 2) I will treat the rust repair after painting so that you'll never have to worry about salt on the roads. See this video for more on that process - ruclips.net/video/y05dNxt-nVc/видео.html Hope that helps answer your ?s a bit - Jerry

  • @MrTheHillfolk
    @MrTheHillfolk Год назад

    12:00 curious about what my autobody buddyvtold me ,and thats to be careful because panelbond can "ghost" thru paint and it can be hard to seal?
    Will filler seal it?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      A lot of folks make the mistake of trying to avoid filler. Filler is a great buffer between the seam and the finish. Knock the seam down, fill, prime, paint - no problems. Here's a follow up video on this repair 3 years later - zero ghosting - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html

  • @jordandodds7881
    @jordandodds7881 2 года назад +2

    Looks awesome! Would you be intetested in doing a Supercrew?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      Thanks Jordan. Right now I am sort of backed up till the fall. Sorry :)

    • @jordandodds7881
      @jordandodds7881 2 года назад +1

      @@LakesideAutobody ok thank you!

  • @closertothetruth9209
    @closertothetruth9209 14 дней назад

    nice tutorial, although this glue is pricey in my part of the world its still quicker and easier and no warping

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  14 дней назад

      You can even use JB WELD (original) - ruclips.net/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/видео.html

  • @bestillandknow3939
    @bestillandknow3939 3 месяца назад

    I have facing a similar job. I was wondering about adherence over paint. On the other hand, with your method, you have bare metal exposed to the moisture inside the rocker. What is the solution?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  3 месяца назад

      Never worry about bare metal inside - honestly. What causes rust on vehicles is the inability to dry out inside. If you make sure the panels can drain and dry out inside you'll never have problems :) Check this vid out for longevity - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/idrLzsz2eLg/видео.html

  • @terryneubrand1448
    @terryneubrand1448 Год назад

    After you finish the body work and paint it you're still probably going to have a ghost line come through where that seam was do you have that problem with that doing it this way

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      Many body shops use glues for rust repair - you have to tap the seam down to eliminate any problems w/ gl's - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html

  • @terrychristle1477
    @terrychristle1477 2 года назад

    I’ve got an 2010 F150 crew cab. Need cab corners and rockers. Would this process work for both? Are these different panels that can be glued on, or is it just a different process with same new replacement parts? Great video!!

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      As long as you have a pinch weld at the top & bottom of the rocker (inner panel spot welded to outer) you can do it because the ends are lapped or can be lapped. Here's a video or two on more gluing - ruclips.net/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/видео.html here's a follow up on repairs like this - ruclips.net/video/gIS1Tbv7Kvw/видео.html Heck, after they are glued on it looks a ton better w/o even filling, priming and painting :)

    • @terrychristle1477
      @terrychristle1477 2 года назад

      @@LakesideAutobody thanks for the reply and added information. Sounds like your pretty booked up for work?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      ​@@terrychristle1477 You're welcome Terry - I do have a lot going on right now but I'm focusing on slowing it down a bit :)

  • @durzolife
    @durzolife 2 года назад

    Would using the structural adhesive be suitable for a unibody rocker panel?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +2

      Here's one way to think about it.... If your rockers are already gone - like rusted - gone, would it be better to have something there or nothing. I would not be afraid to use it for unibody myself but you'll probably hear some negative stuff from others. If you're really uncertain weld them in or have them welded in - hope that helps a bit :)

  • @uglyangelracing
    @uglyangelracing 2 года назад

    How much of the adhesive is required per side? I have an avalanche with all new sheet metal ready to go. Just wanted to order the 3M adhesive but not sure how much I need.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      You'll do fine with one tube. I used a little under 1/2 tube for this project.

  • @tomschaerer7515
    @tomschaerer7515 Год назад

    I know they aircraft sheet metal on airliners. Heard a rumor the stuff can take 2500lbsper square inch and takes HIGH heat to break it free. Gotta be con firmed though. Pretty sure cars woud at least be partially glued

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      You're right - Boeing, Airbus, etc. use glue and rivets to connect the panels together.

  • @MrRockydee07
    @MrRockydee07 Год назад

    I have a 2011 Crown Victoria police interceptor with 13 antenna holes one is 2" the rest are 3/4", 9 in roof 4 in trunk is the glued sheet metal permanent or is welding in plugs better I really don't want to weld . THANKS

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      Glued sheet metal is permanent and in my opinion superior to any other method due to the water tight seam. Sometimes you have to weld though so it's always good and never too late to learn :)

    • @MrRockydee07
      @MrRockydee07 Год назад +1

      @@LakesideAutobody thank you .

  • @lonewolf9390
    @lonewolf9390 16 дней назад

    I just ordered a slip on rocker panel for my 2011 Chevy Cruze, and I noticed in the product description that the metal is zinc galvanized. Upon further research online, I read that a lot of primers will not stick to galvanized metal. Is there any sort of primers you could recommend that will adhere to galvanized?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  16 дней назад +1

      It'll stick. Just DA sand it with 120 grit. Used epoxy primer first if you are really concerned. Used to do it all the time at body shops. Many Dodge vans and other vehicles had galvanized rockers, panels, etc. Never had an issue and we used lacquer primer or polyester primer (feather fill).

    • @lonewolf9390
      @lonewolf9390 16 дней назад

      @@LakesideAutobody Thanks a million. I was hoping there was a way to do it without having to buy an expensive primer.

  • @EChunter
    @EChunter Год назад

    You have a video removing the old rocker ?

  • @leonardcrisci7254
    @leonardcrisci7254 2 года назад

    I have a few spots in the floor I have to cut out and put in patch panels Would that glue work Instead of welding

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      Absolutely. You could easily screw and glue it. I once screwed and glued an entire full size van floor in with panel adhesive because I didn't want to mess up the galvanized steel when welding it. Worked just fine - very strong :)

    • @leonardcrisci7254
      @leonardcrisci7254 2 года назад +1

      @@LakesideAutobody OK thank you

  • @boblowe-mi9tf
    @boblowe-mi9tf 23 дня назад

    are you using aluminum or steel rivets? thank you

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  23 дня назад

      Aluminum. They will not have an adverse effect though 'cause they will never see moisture. You can take them out actually too if concerned - the holes will not cause issues. Thanks for watching :)

  • @PeteR-or5kj
    @PeteR-or5kj 2 года назад

    Any reason why you didn't take off the doors?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      No - you can take the doors off if you want. I like to keep them on so I can make sure the gap is right at the bottom and sides also.

  • @73superglide62
    @73superglide62 2 года назад +1

    Glue new wave 4 DIY

  • @mikewilliams6767
    @mikewilliams6767 9 месяцев назад

    I don't know if i missed it but how many tubes of the adhesive did you need for both sides?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  9 месяцев назад

      I only did one side with the glue. The other side was welded. You will only need one tube though :)

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  9 месяцев назад

      I only did one side with the glue. The other side was welded. You will only need one tube though :)

  • @MERCNRY
    @MERCNRY 2 года назад

    recessed rivets in the ends?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      The rivets at the end of the rocker (box end) were done from the underside of the vehicle - in other words I put them in backwards or from the backside so that's actually the other side of the rivet that's showing. Hope that wasn't too confusing :)

  • @PatriceRobert20
    @PatriceRobert20 Месяц назад

    Pardon my ignorance, but, when glueing, do you use full rocker or slip on? I never done that before.
    Thank you.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Месяц назад +1

      Full rocker. You can get these panels from places like millsupply.com or raybuck.com
      You can also weld these in place if you prefer :)

    • @PatriceRobert20
      @PatriceRobert20 Месяц назад

      Thank you very much Sir. Since i'm in Québec, i will order full rocker locally.
      I already received the glue gun and will be buying SEM glue and rocker.

  • @weliftnation2418
    @weliftnation2418 22 дня назад

    How much do you normally charge for job like this?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  22 дня назад

      Prices vary greatly from shop to shop so it's good to check around. I flip cars and truck or fix clean title repairable vehicles so I can't give you an accurate estimate but I'd say anything from 500 - 1000 per side.

  • @joelaurino3903
    @joelaurino3903 4 месяца назад

    I'm looking at the parts list for the tools but don't see a link to buy the rocker panel

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  4 месяца назад

      Rockers can be bought at millsupply or raybucks

    • @joelaurino3903
      @joelaurino3903 4 месяца назад

      Is this a structural rocker panel that you normally weld on or or a slip on rocker panel like the one at raybucks website. i.e. part # 0864-105 or is it part# 0864-107.@@LakesideAutobody

  • @leonardoestrada5899
    @leonardoestrada5899 2 года назад

    I know with different shops prices vary, but how much should i expect to pay if i was to get rocker panels and cab corners replaced?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      A low estimate for rocker panel rep (1 side) would be around 500. This particular truck has an integrated rocker panel - the cab corner is part of the rocker.

    • @zacharysmith737
      @zacharysmith737 2 года назад

      @@LakesideAutobody what about a 2002 jeep liberty both my rockers are rusted through and taped up I got it used this guy got me it from his buddy after waiting months after giving him my other jeep and that's my Main focus right now the rockers so how much would it cost to replace my rockers labor and parts included?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      @@zacharysmith737 Prices for rocker replacement vary greatly from shop to shop - and it's hard to find any shop that does it still. Anyway the rocker panel would coast around 75 and labor could be anything from 500-1000 plus any other materials and paint. Jerry

    • @zacharysmith737
      @zacharysmith737 2 года назад

      @@LakesideAutobody thanks yeah my dad said he dont think there's anyone around where we live that would do it plus I'd figured it wouldn't be cheap so I priced welding machines and the mask the rods some paint etc that I'd need way cheaper that way plus I'll learn how to weld ive already started watching videos on it specifically mostly hiw to replace or repair the rocker panels on my particular vehicle i kniw it's a big job but I think it'll he good to learn to do it myself itd save me a huge amount of money plus it's a good skill to have.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      @@zacharysmith737 It's a very good skill to have. You use that skill for the rest of your life - it may make you a lot of $ in addition :)

  • @jerryp2433
    @jerryp2433 Год назад

    Is this better than butt welding for corrosion? Doesn't using rivets leave a place for rust to build behind the panel?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      In my opinion there are many methods better than butt welding. The reason? No one can guarantee that their weld or welds are water proof. On top of that they are claiming that they metal finish. That means there are pin holes right under the finish waiting for rust to bubble the paint. A glued seam is water tight guaranteed - it will last as long as a new panel. As for the rivets - you really don't need them. Moisture will never hang around that area. It will continue down the panel till it reaches the bottom. Make sure you provide for drainage so that the bottom of the panel can drain and stay dry.

    • @jerryp2433
      @jerryp2433 Год назад

      @@LakesideAutobody does the glue block the drain channels at the bottom of the rocker? I think I see some people wedging a drill bit in there while spot welding to leave a gap for the water to drain. Do you just not apply the glue to that raised area?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      @@jerryp2433 No glue in the raised areas, leave a gap - especially at the ends of the rocker, or drill your own drain holes. No drainage = rust/rot. Good thinking Jerry

    • @jerryp2433
      @jerryp2433 Год назад

      @@LakesideAutobody I just bought an Eastwood 90 mig welder for $200 for my MGB...Now I'm considering doing the outer rockers using panel bonding. It just seems more rust proof than spot welds. Also heard it was stronger.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      @@jerryp2433 To be honest MIG welding would probably be easier if you are decent at MIG welding but you're right you'll never have to worry about the seems if you glue it. Something to think about I guess - that's the fun of it 😊

  • @sayeedmohammadnadir5965
    @sayeedmohammadnadir5965 20 дней назад

    What’s the name of glue that you used.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  19 дней назад

      SEM Impact resistant panel adhesive - has micro sized balls in it to keep from being squeezed out - plus won't cack when hit with body hammer :)

  • @caseyhart8348
    @caseyhart8348 Год назад

    What is the name of the glue did u use

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      SEM Structural Impact Resistant Adhesive - Part Number 39757 All tools and materials is listed under the video description :)

  • @jesusbrito59
    @jesusbrito59 2 года назад

    How much does a job like this cost? Just out of curiosity.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      Prices vary greatly from shop to shop. $500 would be a low estimate for one side.

  • @kevinarcher7701
    @kevinarcher7701 2 года назад

    What tool are you using to cut that metal with.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      Here's one thing I was using on the air hammer - shop.snapon.com/product/Slitting-Chisels/Air-Hammer-Slitting-Chisel/PHG61B and here's another tool used - www.harborfreight.com/1-4-quarter-inch-rear-exhaust-air-die-grinder-52847.html with this cut off wheel - www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinding-cutting-wheels/cut-off-wheels/3-in-x-116-in-x-38-in-metal-cut-off-wheels-10-pk-61354.html

    • @kevinarcher7701
      @kevinarcher7701 2 года назад

      @@LakesideAutobody sorry I should have been more precise. It was the first tool. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад +1

      @@kevinarcher7701 You're welcome Kevin - that tool is one of the most handy bits for the air hammer - make sure you get a good name brand one so it can take a beating :)

  • @terrypurviance2513
    @terrypurviance2513 Год назад

    You have just cost my body man friend some income. He's been monkeying around putting me off so I'll be trying it myself

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      That's great - actually most guys avoid rust repair so it's good to learn to do it yourself. I'm willing to bet you'll do a better job too :)

  • @luigiprovencher8888
    @luigiprovencher8888 2 года назад

    How much would you charge someone for something like this?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      Prices vary greatly from shop to shop - average is anything from 500-1000 per side and I'm thinking today it's probably more. I actually never did the estimates where I worked - was a body man. Now that I'm retired, I just take on work around town to make videos - once again, I'm not writing estimates :)

  • @BreakerBreaker1320
    @BreakerBreaker1320 Год назад +1

    Coat the inside with wax?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад

      Yes - you can do that or just squirt some used motor oil in there and let it creep around to coat all the nooks and crannies like this - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html

  • @stevekovacs6250
    @stevekovacs6250 5 месяцев назад

    How does the glue hold up to heat?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  5 месяцев назад +1

      It holds up fine to regular everyday heat such as the sun, etc. I have not experienced a situation where an exhaust side pipe is right next to the panel. If you need extreme heat protection JB Weld is the answer - ruclips.net/video/wRl1QfkrBeY/видео.html Repair is still fine today - will do a follow up soon on it :)

    • @stevekovacs6250
      @stevekovacs6250 5 месяцев назад

      The panel sits under the trunk area just above the exhaust system but with airflow. My only issue since its an air-cooled (Porsche 914) it might get hot sitting idling in traffic. In my post haste to finish other panels near by and paint them I forgot the important panel the heat shield above the exhaust pipe. If I weld it in I will damage the inside trunk fresh painted space. @@LakesideAutobody

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  5 месяцев назад

      Here's the data sheet on the SEM - semproducts.com/public/content/techsheets/TDS_dual-mix_structural_impact_resistant_adhesive_0719.pdf I would use JB Weld - I used that on an EGR return tube right out of the exhaust manifold and it held up for years until I sold the truck. It's resistant up to 550 degrees :)@@stevekovacs6250

    • @stevekovacs6250
      @stevekovacs6250 5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for that! I will take your advise and just go that way. I continue to follow your site.@@LakesideAutobody

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  5 месяцев назад +1

      Let me know how it goes for you and ask ?s along the way if needed :)@@stevekovacs6250

  • @rickychildoftheking5266
    @rickychildoftheking5266 Год назад

    I believe you should have smeared the glue on all the bare metal to protect it from rusting

  • @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793
    @truckerdaddy-akajohninqueb4793 2 года назад

    No doubt you do top notch work, but it doesn't seem complete without a weld

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      Thanks John. Quebec sounds like a nice place to live :)

  • @flap0000
    @flap0000 10 месяцев назад

    Aren't you worried about all the bare metal left in there accelerating the rusting process?

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  10 месяцев назад +1

      Not at all. Drainage of a panel is key and if you want to see how to protect any panel from further rust new or old check out this video - ruclips.net/video/8XaZBy7GC7A/видео.html

  • @91rss
    @91rss 2 года назад

    being structural , some places want everything welded, no pop rivets alowed.

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  2 года назад

      The rockers on this truck is not really structural as it has been driven for about 10 years without rockers. That panel that I glued the rocker to is super thick - like 16 gauge - and welded to the floor and braces that are also integral to the floor. I think Ford knows that the rockers are going to rust so they make sure you don't need them :)

  • @stephenterpstra4902
    @stephenterpstra4902 Год назад

    That panel bond was a waste of money if your gonna rivet it use 1 or other no need for both

    • @LakesideAutobody
      @LakesideAutobody  Год назад +1

      Tell that to Boeing ☺ They build commercial jets with glue and rivets. Would you rather fly in a 747 built with only rivets or only glue?