My parents have their 2007 still it’s has over 550000 kms on it, only thing that shat was the trans at 500 000 but which was replaced with a junk yard one for about 900$ and everything runs great
I'm happy with my 7.4 427 big block in my 1994 Chevrolet 1 ton dually full size 4dr 4whl drive with a 7 1/2 ft snow plow on front it still has a distributor only thing basically different is it's throttle body fuel injected with the electric fuel pump in tank. I am old school though grew up the small blocks 283s 327s with the double jump heads then the 350s the junk low compression 400 engines ye some and most of them especially if painted blue 350s , 400s had more nickel in the blocks anyway heads. All the diesel engines I seen in pick up trucks even cars were junk was so easy to pull it put a 350 Oldsmobile in with a distributor HEI Ran one 12 volt wire to the coil you were set
Diesels today just add cost weight and more issues down the line. By the time the gas engine gives out you can toss a new one in and still be in it for less than a diesel. Most people never need to tow over what a modern gas truck can, but they get the diesel anyway.
@@treeamigo8447just because you can afford something doesn't mean that is what you get. The gas engine makes more sense for those not using it for commercial use. If all you're doing is towing a trailer or boat on the weekends then the gas is plenty for that. And that is if you are towing something big. If it's under 8k lbs then you can easily get away with a half ton truck to move your toys around. It's just wasteful to daily a HD diesel truck to just commute and pick up the groceries.
6.6 is a torque monster. I can walk it on a bunch of cars/trucks up to 100 while the work boxes are full of tools , few sheets of plywood, and a 16' trailer full of tools/ material, too. It is an impressive engine. $12g cheaper then duramax and im not disappointed in my choice to go with gas after owning a couple duramax / Allison powered trucks
I rented a 6.6 chev van for work once mannnn that thing would turn up! It was a rental so governed at 100mph but it got there in 3rd gear w a quickness 🤣 even loaded down with a couple hundred pounds of tile and tools it still rides tf out!
@@moremiatas our 23 LT 2500 is limited to 98. I think it’s due to the tire options. Really annoying. Great truck. Awesome engine. Pulls out 24’ race trailer like a train. Haven’t found a hill to slow it down yet in the north east. 6 speed still works great.
in 1991 my buddy bought a Dodge Cummins 2wd with a stick. one day he pulled up to a red light next to a brand new mustang GT. we had a car hauler behind us with a car on it. he took off in 2nd a d pulled on that mustang all the way to 50mph. it was the coolest thing every seen. that mustang owner could not believe.
Debating on a 2024 2500 gas with the Allison trans or the ram 2500 6.4l gasser. My ole man loves his ram(even more then his 2 power strokes) and has had no issues with it, but that Chevy custom (base trim) blacked out is just so sexy and in such a good price range compared to every other full size truck. Hell I can’t tell their top trim from bottom trim because they’re so damn similar(infact the non chrome lower tier ones look better then the chrome top trim models imo) Pretty much the only full sized truck u can get for under 65-70k these days(in my area Atleast) anyone owned both and have any differences to point out?
@jakejake7162 my neighbors owns both the 6.6 gas and diesel. The diesel is really great for towing for sure, but the maintenance, fuel cost and there's no space left under the hood to work around. The 6.6 gas is similar to the 6.2 without afm and isn't much different on mpg than on my 6.2. Plenty of space under the hood and noticeably better performance. Is it simply a bored out 6.2? Either way, nice to have a larger v8 without that afm nonsense to mess you over on reliability.
With a 5.9 Cummins you’ll go through about 5 transmissions, three chassis, and countless body panels before you ever need to worry about doing anything to the motor.
@@toyotaecwuntil something happens to the cylinder bore and you need to bring it to a specialized machine shop because they don't have wet sleeves. Isuzu 4BD1-T would be the better choice.
We had an 8.1/Allison ext cab for our business. Sold the business 2 yrs ago, but currently working on buying back the 2 vehicles I brought into the fleet. The 8.1 and 07 classic lbz crew/long bed. I just picked up a 24' 3500 crew cab long bed with the 6.6 gas and I'm loving it! Just did exhaust on it and sounds amazing!
I am a Ford guy but I always liked the GM 400 small block.My grandfather who passed away in Fed of 2022 said a 400 small block against a 400 Dodge or a 400 Ford it's going to be out front.Stock to stock I totally agree the only time I seen a 400 Run decent is with a 4 berrel intake and a different cam and bored .30 over..It has some guts now nut not sure it's enough against a 400 small block..I am being totally honest here..I am not like one those GM fanboys who never gives credit where credit is due..I have smoked 454s big blocks before with a 390 Ford so I know you know what I'm talking about if you are being honest back with me !!!
@@fnafplayer6447Its here now. Called the L8T. In work trucks and 2500 3500 without diesel options. Pulls hard too 400hp 464tq makes a 9900 lb box trucks squeal the tires from a dead stop
I just got a 2023 GMC 2500 with the 6.6 gas. It was a hard choice for me to go back to a gas motor after having a ‘09 Duramax and a ‘15 Duramax. Before them I had a ‘02 with the 8.1 and Allison. The gas 6.6 has noticeably less power than the diesels but it’s not bad. As far as gas mileage, I was getting single digits around town with the 8.1 and I’m getting about 12 mpg with the 6.6 gas.
@@zachandoomI tend to mostly only work on older stuff, every time I’m stuck on something I always remind myself how much harder things could be if the car was new haha
I have one of these 6.6L gas in my work van. I love it. Wish it was a little better on gas but I get about 17.5 mpg, it could be worse considering the size of the engine.
Yea, everyone I know with a modern diesel runs them stock through the warranty period and then plans for the delete. Once the first emissions related check engine light comes on, they go for it.
Other reason not to get diesel is you lose payload with diesel vs gas. If you go 1 ton no big deal but if you go with 3/4 ton you will constantly be cutting things close whenever using the truck for serious truck stuff.
But the most important question is….. HOW RELIABLE is it?? Waiting to see if GM finally made a solid drivetrain again after 15yrs of bad tranny’s and failed lifters. I want to love a Chevy but I can’t until they make trucks solid like the old ones again.
No mention of the $8,000 shop bill when cab has to be pulled to do ANYTHING on a diesel. Or $12,000 for a longblock compared to a $5,000 for a L8T longblock.
@@dominoespizza1756 yeah diesel can be spendy. 2 entire American dollars per gallon more. Still, nobody goes with a gas truck. None of the big 3 have a gas engine that's reliable enough for towing anything more than egos these days.
I remember watching a show called Junk yard wars. Contestants would dig through junk yards and build machines to compete in wacky challenges. In one episode a team was looking for an engine. What was funny was how blow away they were when they found a “HUGE 3.5l engine”! As an American I got a good laugh out of that.
I have a f350 6.2 the reason I went that way is because you can't get 8' box and extended cab. I can load up my 2up atv close the tailgate and pull my 20' camper. A Diesel engine truck even used is at least 5000$ to around 8000$ more plus the extra cost of matenince
Fuel prices is not a very solid argument point since the gas is getting about 6 to 8 miles to the gallon while towing and the diesels get about 13 to 15 towing
Another problem with diesels is the weight. If you want to run a heavy snow plow or are running a dump bed, flatbed, or box in the back- the lighter curb weight allows you to carry more weight without crossing the 26k lbs limit to a non CDL license. This is an even bigger problem for people that buy a 3/4 ton truck and need to stay under the 10k lbs gvwr.
I’ve had three GMC KUV’s with the 6.0 two drove to 250k still ran good when sold other than normal maintenance rebuilt one rearend And it was noisy from get go wasn’t assembled correctly Third has 96k now These are commercial HVAC service vehicles and haul heavy all the time and plenty of power, I vote 6.0 for best all around truck engine, now loaded the way we run only get 11 mpg , don’t know how they’d do empty
Out of curiosity. I’d like to know what kind of numbers an 8.1 would produce using a moderate amount of boost from turbo . Nothing over the top such as “hot rod” just a reliable turbo set up . I’d be willing to bet that it’s comparable to any stock Duramax or Cummins. Anyone knows what a diesel is without boost 😂
What about bringing back an 8.1? Loved my 2000 until It rotted to the ground. Loved my 8.0 V10 dodge till I got totaled. No replacement for displacement, on pump gas with a factory stock truck. Still have both drive lines, hoping to one day find another truck to put them in. Just bought another V10 dodge, because, cheap and reliable, and I'm nutz. Have a 70 1 ton that deserves a v 10, just so it's different and not a12v Cummins to be unique. Eats fuel, but simple and reliable.
That depends on how you measure the “best”, I would argue that the 350 four bolt was the best small block ever built. More durable, more rebuild able, less inherent problems than the newer engines. On the other hand the newer ones produce more power but shorter service life. Also far more maintenance than the old ones
I really don't like diesel engines, so the gas option is always the more attractive option for me anyway. However, I do with they'd bring back the tall deck truck engines. Especially the high displacement ones.
You left out the best part about a gas engine over diesel. The extra payload capacity due to not having the diesel powered boat anker on the front axle.
You don't really want 87 octane gasoline if you intend to do heavy towing. Just because the engine control module will detune when it senses knock it so you can get away with running regular doesn't mean the engine will run best on regular. GM recommends regular without mentioning that it will run better on premium in order to sell more vehicles. They know that buyers who spend over $50K on a truck are still going to be obsessive penny pinchers on gasoline, and as soon as you even hint at premium fuel they will balk.
You almost got a like, until that last part. The 6.6L gas engine is not an LS, it’s a 400 SBC in the LT family. But otherwise, you’re pretty accurate. And the one we have is an absolute beast. Only downside we’ve tube is no engine brake and no transmission brake make make up for no engine brake.
What he's not taking into consideration is that every single time there has been a head-to-head battle between gas and diesel with as close to simular engines as possible despite their differences in fuel gas has always been a significantly better all round better choice for towing except in one field fuel economy and the difference in fuel economy between gas and diesel whenever it comes to towing is so great The gap is so large that is why diesel has become far and beyond the normal for towing
Now once you start factoring in the cost of maintenance and parts that cost of the truck and all the other nuances that come with it The gap gets a lot closer but yes beyond of shadow of a doubt Diesel trucks in the long run are significantly cheaper the tow with then gas trucks are and that is the only reason they are so prevalent in the towing industry
You are going to have to give specifics on that one... The only thing the Detroit 6.2L/6.5L shared with the SBC/BBC was the bellhousing pattern and engine mount locations, but that was simply to streamline production. There were no parts sharing between the gas and diesel motors. It was not a converted gas motor. The Oldsmobile Diesel was a modified gas engine. An Olds 350 Diesel with a bit of machining to the block and installation of gasoline engine components can become a gas V8.
Love my 99k2500 with a 454 was 10k less than detroit and gas has been half the price of diesel. 10mpg vs 15 that diesel will never pay for itself plus they pop like a zit at 100k miles
I love large gas engine but to tow I wouldn't own anything but a diesel. It's a feeling that's hard to explain making 1000ft lbs by 1500 rpm almost like the hand of God took your 20,000lbs load and nuged it along carelessly.
Fact is that any fuel savings a diesel gives you is spent on higher maintenance and repair costs. Gas is better for the average guy who maintains his own truck.
When I tow with a gasoline truck I get like 1/2 the fuel economy of towing with a diesel. Wouldn't be a problem if gasoline was 1/2 the price of diesel but it's not.
What about my Chevy Straight Six? Huh? Still running from 1966, and boy does she run…. When the electrical doesn’t ground and drain the battery or the alternator dies….
when comparing cost of diesel fuel to gasoline shouldn't we be comparing efficiency and operating costs as opposed to just the cost of fuel? Diesel has an equal cost when miles per gallon are compared to its counterpart. Towing capacity is increased exponentially with diesel so the costs associated with owning a diesel can outweigh the alternative.
Bring back the 8.1
Ramjet 502.
make it drink less oil.
@@leadfoot8593 make it hold more oil
No
with a manual transmission or the 10 speed
I have a 8.1 2500 HD 2001 172,000 and still going strong . Will never get rid of it. Keep good maintenance
Love that 496 mid block :)
I loved my 8.1 as well but no comparison to my new 6.6 gas
Why do people brag about the stuff with 172,000 MI. It's almost like you never drive it is 22 years old.
@johnantonopoulous6381 right like we have a 2018 powerstroke with more miles at my work🤣
@@iankovac1878 pretty sure an 8.1 is a 502
2008 Escalade 6.2 409 hp 200,000 miles awesome engine. Only thing ever done to it Spark plugs oil changes 1 battery and vapor canister solenoid
My parents have their 2007 still it’s has over 550000 kms on it, only thing that shat was the trans at 500 000 but which was replaced with a junk yard one for about 900$ and everything runs great
I'm happy with my 7.4 427 big block in my 1994 Chevrolet 1 ton dually full size 4dr 4whl drive with a 7 1/2 ft snow plow on front it still has a distributor only thing basically different is it's throttle body fuel injected with the electric fuel pump in tank. I am old school though grew up the small blocks 283s 327s with the double jump heads then the 350s the junk low compression 400 engines ye some and most of them especially if painted blue 350s , 400s had more nickel in the blocks anyway heads. All the diesel engines I seen in pick up trucks even cars were junk was so easy to pull it put a 350 Oldsmobile in with a distributor HEI Ran one 12 volt wire to the coil you were set
Diesels today just add cost weight and more issues down the line. By the time the gas engine gives out you can toss a new one in and still be in it for less than a diesel. Most people never need to tow over what a modern gas truck can, but they get the diesel anyway.
If you can't afford a diesel, just say so
@@treeamigo8447just because you can afford something doesn't mean that is what you get.
The gas engine makes more sense for those not using it for commercial use. If all you're doing is towing a trailer or boat on the weekends then the gas is plenty for that.
And that is if you are towing something big. If it's under 8k lbs then you can easily get away with a half ton truck to move your toys around.
It's just wasteful to daily a HD diesel truck to just commute and pick up the groceries.
6.6 is a torque monster. I can walk it on a bunch of cars/trucks up to 100 while the work boxes are full of tools , few sheets of plywood, and a 16' trailer full of tools/ material, too. It is an impressive engine. $12g cheaper then duramax and im not disappointed in my choice to go with gas after owning a couple duramax / Allison powered trucks
I rented a 6.6 chev van for work once mannnn that thing would turn up! It was a rental so governed at 100mph but it got there in 3rd gear w a quickness 🤣 even loaded down with a couple hundred pounds of tile and tools it still rides tf out!
@@moremiatas our 23 LT 2500 is limited to 98. I think it’s due to the tire options. Really annoying. Great truck. Awesome engine. Pulls out 24’ race trailer like a train. Haven’t found a hill to slow it down yet in the north east. 6 speed still works great.
in 1991 my buddy bought a Dodge Cummins 2wd with a stick. one day he pulled up to a red light next to a brand new mustang GT. we had a car hauler behind us with a car on it. he took off in 2nd a d pulled on that mustang all the way to 50mph. it was the coolest thing every seen. that mustang owner could not believe.
Debating on a 2024 2500 gas with the Allison trans or the ram 2500 6.4l gasser. My ole man loves his ram(even more then his 2 power strokes) and has had no issues with it, but that Chevy custom (base trim) blacked out is just so sexy and in such a good price range compared to every other full size truck. Hell I can’t tell their top trim from bottom trim because they’re so damn similar(infact the non chrome lower tier ones look better then the chrome top trim models imo) Pretty much the only full sized truck u can get for under 65-70k these days(in my area Atleast) anyone owned both and have any differences to point out?
@jakejake7162 my neighbors owns both the 6.6 gas and diesel. The diesel is really great for towing for sure, but the maintenance, fuel cost and there's no space left under the hood to work around. The 6.6 gas is similar to the 6.2 without afm and isn't much different on mpg than on my 6.2. Plenty of space under the hood and noticeably better performance. Is it simply a bored out 6.2? Either way, nice to have a larger v8 without that afm nonsense to mess you over on reliability.
Don’t forget just how much less expensive it is to maintain compared to basically any oil-burner this side of a 7.3, 5.9, or pre-emissions Duramax.
With a 5.9 Cummins you’ll go through about 5 transmissions, three chassis, and countless body panels before you ever need to worry about doing anything to the motor.
@@toyotaecwuntil something happens to the cylinder bore and you need to bring it to a specialized machine shop because they don't have wet sleeves. Isuzu 4BD1-T would be the better choice.
As someone who was a GM dealership tech, I’ve already seen at least half a dozen get total engine replacement in a span of 6 months
We had an 8.1/Allison ext cab for our business. Sold the business 2 yrs ago, but currently working on buying back the 2 vehicles I brought into the fleet. The 8.1 and 07 classic lbz crew/long bed.
I just picked up a 24' 3500 crew cab long bed with the 6.6 gas and I'm loving it! Just did exhaust on it and sounds amazing!
Good old 400 c.u. v8. When I heard they were coming out with a new one, decided to celebrate by putting E.F.I. on the old 79 gmc with a 400 :)
How'd ya do it??
I am a Ford guy but I always liked the GM 400 small block.My grandfather who passed away in Fed of 2022 said a 400 small block against a 400 Dodge or a 400 Ford it's going to be out front.Stock to stock I totally agree the only time I seen a 400 Run decent is with a 4 berrel intake and a different cam and bored .30 over..It has some guts now nut not sure it's enough against a 400 small block..I am being totally honest here..I am not like one those GM fanboys who never gives credit where credit is due..I have smoked 454s big blocks before with a 390 Ford so I know you know what I'm talking about if you are being honest back with me !!!
Wait they're bringing it back?
@@fnafplayer6447Its here now. Called the L8T. In work trucks and 2500 3500 without diesel options. Pulls hard too 400hp 464tq makes a 9900 lb box trucks squeal the tires from a dead stop
I just got a 2023 GMC 2500 with the 6.6 gas. It was a hard choice for me to go back to a gas motor after having a ‘09 Duramax and a ‘15 Duramax. Before them I had a ‘02 with the 8.1 and Allison. The gas 6.6 has noticeably less power than the diesels but it’s not bad. As far as gas mileage, I was getting single digits around town with the 8.1 and I’m getting about 12 mpg with the 6.6 gas.
the 350sbc and the 454 are my favorite engines.
I still have a gmt400 truck with a all forged 383 gen 1 that's turbocharged and runs a ls1 ecu. I will never get rid of it.
@@markrich3271 I wouldn't, the older vehicles, and designs where in my opinion just better quality and better looking.
@@zachandoomI tend to mostly only work on older stuff, every time I’m stuck on something I always remind myself how much harder things could be if the car was new haha
I have one of these 6.6L gas in my work van. I love it. Wish it was a little better on gas but I get about 17.5 mpg, it could be worse considering the size of the engine.
I don't think that's bad at all
That's really good considering my 4.0 inline 6 in my Grand Cherokee gets about 15mpg
@@markchidester6239 oh I agree, but you can always hope for more.
That's impressive, that's what I get in my 370k mile lbz with a bad fuel pressure regulator
What…..my 6.0 gets 14 if I baby it.
Still in love with my 8.1, so glad I kept that truck. So much better than my duramax truck.
Plus, you get to hear that small block growl 👌🏼
Not to mention all the government meddling that makes modern on road diesels a nightmare to maintain and repair
Found myself on an island with no diesel while on vacation. It was a stressful 30 mile drive with 32 miles of "range" to the closest diesel
A lot of us don't buy diesel anymore because of the emissions controls, which make them less reliable. Also the price of fuel as of late.
Pre-emissions or bust
Yea, everyone I know with a modern diesel runs them stock through the warranty period and then plans for the delete. Once the first emissions related check engine light comes on, they go for it.
My 2002 8.1 Vortec is a BEAST!!!😊❤😊❤
Forgot to mention why it’s a good option. Great torque, reliability is great, longevity is amazing.
The labor Time for a valve cover job on a duramax is nearly as much as pulling the engine out for a gas small block.
I've got a 8.1 with the allison in the back of my truck ready to put in my 78 crew cab gonna be sick
Those 8.1s are awesome
Utility companies love the gas engines. When you have to idle them all day gas is the real king!
Diesels reign supreme. Nothing is better than the last generation of 7.3 powerstroke.
Too complex for common man. And most people don't need it. And I'd rather have an old school duramax
I've got a 71 402. Bored .30 over balanced, 330 hp. cam.
A lot of fun. Turbo 400 behind it.
Other reason not to get diesel is you lose payload with diesel vs gas. If you go 1 ton no big deal but if you go with 3/4 ton you will constantly be cutting things close whenever using the truck for serious truck stuff.
But the most important question is….. HOW RELIABLE is it?? Waiting to see if GM finally made a solid drivetrain again after 15yrs of bad tranny’s and failed lifters. I want to love a Chevy but I can’t until they make trucks solid like the old ones again.
No mention of the $8,000 shop bill when cab has to be pulled to do ANYTHING on a diesel. Or $12,000 for a longblock compared to a $5,000 for a L8T longblock.
This is the craziest sounding thing I’ve ever heard as someone from Australia
Diesels here are all big and heavy. Especially expensive. 2 more dollars per gallon here
@@merritts3515 2 American dollars?
@@dominoespizza1756 yeah diesel can be spendy. 2 entire American dollars per gallon more.
Still, nobody goes with a gas truck. None of the big 3 have a gas engine that's reliable enough for towing anything more than egos these days.
I remember watching a show called Junk yard wars. Contestants would dig through junk yards and build machines to compete in wacky challenges. In one episode a team was looking for an engine. What was funny was how blow away they were when they found a “HUGE 3.5l engine”! As an American I got a good laugh out of that.
@@jeepmanxj sometimes I can’t believe how different Australia and America are when it comes to cars
I have a f350 6.2 the reason I went that way is because you can't get 8' box and extended cab. I can load up my 2up atv close the tailgate and pull my 20' camper. A Diesel engine truck even used is at least 5000$ to around 8000$ more plus the extra cost of matenince
I went gas because I didn't want to deal with all the Def and regen issues. Diesels nowadays are choked out.
Fuel prices is not a very solid argument point since the gas is getting about 6 to 8 miles to the gallon while towing and the diesels get about 13 to 15 towing
Another problem with diesels is the weight. If you want to run a heavy snow plow or are running a dump bed, flatbed, or box in the back- the lighter curb weight allows you to carry more weight without crossing the 26k lbs limit to a non CDL license.
This is an even bigger problem for people that buy a 3/4 ton truck and need to stay under the 10k lbs gvwr.
I would never own a vehicle with a DPF or one that uses DEF. I know what they're up to and I am not falling for it.
“WhY nOt BuY a DiEsEl”
Because emissions regulated diesels suck ass.
Sincerely, an actual trucker.
That’s why you buy pre-emissions diesels, friend.
They need to bring back the 8.1
I have one. I like it it only has 90,000
Miles
I’ve had three GMC KUV’s with the 6.0 two drove to 250k still ran good when sold other than normal maintenance rebuilt one rearend
And it was noisy from get go wasn’t assembled correctly
Third has 96k now
These are commercial HVAC service vehicles and haul heavy all the time and plenty of power, I vote 6.0 for best all around truck engine, now loaded the way we run only get 11 mpg , don’t know how they’d do empty
Any performance mods available yet?
The 350 was the best engine GM ever made
Out of curiosity. I’d like to know what kind of numbers an 8.1 would produce using a moderate amount of boost from turbo .
Nothing over the top such as “hot rod” just a reliable turbo set up . I’d be willing to bet that it’s comparable to any stock Duramax or Cummins. Anyone knows what a diesel is without boost 😂
I have this engine in my 2022 2500 van love the power but it does burn 1 and half qts of oil before a 5k oil change
Maintenance is cheaper on a gas engine than diesel.
What about bringing back an 8.1?
Loved my 2000 until It rotted to the ground.
Loved my 8.0 V10 dodge till I got totaled.
No replacement for displacement, on pump gas with a factory stock truck.
Still have both drive lines, hoping to one day find another truck to put them in.
Just bought another V10 dodge, because, cheap and reliable, and I'm nutz.
Have a 70 1 ton that deserves a v 10, just so it's different and not a12v Cummins to be unique.
Eats fuel, but simple and reliable.
If you want something like a diesel, but isn’t diesel, but isn’t LS motor. You should get the GM big block Chevy options.
Will we ever gat a aluminum block l8t
That depends on how you measure the “best”, I would argue that the 350 four bolt was the best small block ever built. More durable, more rebuild able, less inherent problems than the newer engines. On the other hand the newer ones produce more power but shorter service life. Also far more maintenance than the old ones
Low-end torque is a must
What about the 8.1?
You forgot the 4.3
I really don't like diesel engines, so the gas option is always the more attractive option for me anyway. However, I do with they'd bring back the tall deck truck engines. Especially the high displacement ones.
for me the problem woth buying a diesel truck is again already said, the fuel price and maintenance costs
Dude, you forgot to mention the best part about the diesel version, the very expensive to fix DPR/SCR system
There was an answer to the initial question in there somewhere?
You forgot the 8.1, best motor ever made !!!
Alot of company pickups are gas. My job is starting to to get gmc trucks with the 6.6 in them.
6.2 is BAD ASS W/ 10 speed
Tows like you wouldn’t believe
Chevy Expressway vans also had a 5.0 ls
Love my 5.3!!!
So, the oil consumption issue is left out here. 1qt per 100 gallons of fuel is considered normal on the 6.6 gas. Absurd, but true.
I got 207,500 miles on my 3.8 V6 KIA. Still as good as day 1
Now if only they could have an E-Rod kit with it for my 84 K20 Suburban.
Gm shoulda came out with a truck version of the lsx454 to compete with the ford 7.3
He did not say Def for those who don't know what Def is it stens for deazil eisost fluid
The 6 gen 454 was built for Torque
06 chevy 2500 6.0 gasser with 254,000 and burnin tires and countin luggin houses around the mountains
Do one long video on the NTC 365 IV big cam
Oil consumption issue would give me pause before purchasing. 7.3L Godzilla is my choice hands down. More "horse torques", no oil consumption issue.
You left out the best part about a gas engine over diesel. The extra payload capacity due to not having the diesel powered boat anker on the front axle.
WTF is an "anker"??
You don't really want 87 octane gasoline if you intend to do heavy towing. Just because the engine control module will detune when it senses knock it so you can get away with running regular doesn't mean the engine will run best on regular. GM recommends regular without mentioning that it will run better on premium in order to sell more vehicles. They know that buyers who spend over $50K on a truck are still going to be obsessive penny pinchers on gasoline, and as soon as you even hint at premium fuel they will balk.
Wonder what all those are in American?
v10 fords have been real good for me for sure... hate ford but love 2 of there trucks triton engine
Would like to see a 3.5 to 3.7 litter 4 cylinder big block with 350 HP and 500 ft lbs torque.
I don’t think that’s going to happen soon. I may be wrong though.
Maintenance and emission systems!
what makes it the best engine though
With the way the emissions are going on diesels I wouldn't buy one.
Could also be the fact that you could blow your turbo more than once (because reality) and it’s gonna cost more to fix than just buying a gasser.
370k on the stock turbo, and a replacement would only cost $1200
You almost got a like, until that last part. The 6.6L gas engine is not an LS, it’s a 400 SBC in the LT family. But otherwise, you’re pretty accurate. And the one we have is an absolute beast. Only downside we’ve tube is no engine brake and no transmission brake make make up for no engine brake.
And I don't believe he spoke enough about the 6.6
Have a 6.6 in for main failure every month. Under 100k, usually they have powertrain ...
What he's not taking into consideration is that every single time there has been a head-to-head battle between gas and diesel with as close to simular engines as possible despite their differences in fuel gas has always been a significantly better all round better choice for towing except in one field fuel economy and the difference in fuel economy between gas and diesel whenever it comes to towing is so great The gap is so large that is why diesel has become far and beyond the normal for towing
Now once you start factoring in the cost of maintenance and parts that cost of the truck and all the other nuances that come with it The gap gets a lot closer but yes beyond of shadow of a doubt Diesel trucks in the long run are significantly cheaper the tow with then gas trucks are and that is the only reason they are so prevalent in the towing industry
They should make a 6.2L Diesel engine, that's pretty closely related to small block architecture. Oh wait, they did.
Ok??
You are going to have to give specifics on that one... The only thing the Detroit 6.2L/6.5L shared with the SBC/BBC was the bellhousing pattern and engine mount locations, but that was simply to streamline production. There were no parts sharing between the gas and diesel motors. It was not a converted gas motor.
The Oldsmobile Diesel was a modified gas engine. An Olds 350 Diesel with a bit of machining to the block and installation of gasoline engine components can become a gas V8.
6BT SWAP THE WORLD!!!!
Also old Oilers are the best.
The new diesels are expensive and spend too much time in the shop.
Love my 99k2500 with a 454 was 10k less than detroit and gas has been half the price of diesel. 10mpg vs 15 that diesel will never pay for itself plus they pop like a zit at 100k miles
I love large gas engine but to tow I wouldn't own anything but a diesel. It's a feeling that's hard to explain making 1000ft lbs by 1500 rpm almost like the hand of God took your 20,000lbs load and nuged it along carelessly.
Diesel truck have more maintenance associated as well.
Fact is that any fuel savings a diesel gives you is spent on higher maintenance and repair costs. Gas is better for the average guy who maintains his own truck.
When I tow with a gasoline truck I get like 1/2 the fuel economy of towing with a diesel. Wouldn't be a problem if gasoline was 1/2 the price of diesel but it's not.
Bro took his hat off for this one
Every single rental company won't touch a diesel
I’ve rented diesel pickups from Hertz.
Where I live diesel fuel is a dollar or more expensive then 87 octane. Not practical.
8.1 ftw
I thought 400 cu in was big block ??
7.0? You mean the 7.4L?
Ive got 2022 6.6 gas just collapsed lifter 1 hundred thousand miles number 8
he calls it Deezel 😂🇺🇸. I like it that way we should all call it Deezel 💪🏻 Deezel Deezel Deezel
What about my Chevy Straight Six? Huh? Still running from 1966, and boy does she run…. When the electrical doesn’t ground and drain the battery or the alternator dies….
Detroit Diesel has entered the chat.
The 8.1 was the best.
A small block 7.0? Sounds about right. Only the 427. Nothing huge I guess
I drove a ‘22 Silverado 2500 LTZ with the 6.6L. I wouldn’t exactly call it torquey, lmao. Felt slower than a stock 7.3 powerstroke.
when comparing cost of diesel fuel to gasoline shouldn't we be comparing efficiency and operating costs as opposed to just the cost of fuel?
Diesel has an equal cost when miles per gallon are compared to its counterpart. Towing capacity is increased exponentially with diesel so the costs associated with owning a diesel can outweigh the alternative.