Why BURY a CHILD Here?? A RATHDOWNEY Mystery
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- I explore the history of both Rathdowney and Tamrookum. Separate localities but eternally connected. Rathdowney is the quintessential Queensland country town, while Tamrookum is strange, surreal and fascinating. I loved both of them!
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...Something else we have in common; I'm 100% not religious either! PS, I'll give your regards to my Magpie family 😂
4k looks great and the colour quality of this video looks way better too!
One grave you missed at Tamrookum was that of the Kenniff victims, Constable George Doyle and Canarvon Station manager ,Albert Dahlke. Their bodies were burnt and put into saddlebags on a pack horse which was found. The remains were sent to Brisbane for the inquest and trial of the Kenniffs. They were buried at Tamrookum Station cemetery because the owners,also owned Canarvon Station. From memory it was Fraser, the Grandfather of PM Malcolm and of formef Beaudesert shire mayor Michael Fraser. So the cemetery was established for station staff and families before the church. An off shoot of the same family also established the Mundoolan Church and graveyard on the property of Mundoolan near Jimboomba as a memorial to the Fraser patriarch and matriarch. Regarding the lone grave. It's likely the child of a railway fettler . Ive found quite a few . The fettlers brought their families with them. There's a significant one near Miles with 12 graves including Clara Waters and her child , died in childbirth aged 17. Clara was my grandfathers sister
@muddyboots007 Actually I did shoot a piece about the Kenniff victims and the story around them, however I ultimately decided to cut it out of the final edit as it was running too long. Thanks indeed though for the other interesting information.
The camps established when the Western lines were being built all have their quota of lonely graves. Stacks of little kids' graves in places where the water was bad and typhoid added to the normal toll of the usual childhood epidemics. Rows and rows in the little town cemetery at Ilfracombe out near Longreach all dating to the time of the big drought around 1900.
Isn’t there a poem about 3 drowned settlers children at Rathdowner?
@@suzetteperkins1089 you don't mean Drillam do you? The four Roehrig children were drowned when a weir collapsed. They were fettlers kids too.
Slim Dusty wrote a song about Clara Waters
I am from Rathdowney in Ireland and have been to Rathdown in Qld- quite remarkable - Thanks Rob!
Hi Rob..i grew up at border loop just over the nsw side..One of the original settler families at The risk(station) were wilsons..and they are still well represented around Kyogle over the border..a lot of locals(including wilsons) were employed on the construction of the syd to bris train line in the late 20s.and they may be related to your mystery grave..my father was the station master at Border loop.we regularly passed the grave near rathdowney in dads landrover on the way home from the rathdowney school..a few other railway kids lived in the houses that used to be on the other side of the line opposite the grave..i think there were 3 or four houses there up until early nineties.,so i used to play there as a kid whilst dad caught up with work mates..and we found the grave as kids and were told the child was a fetlers daughter who died during a big flood.and they had to bury here there cause they were flooded in. i have quite a collection of photographs of the railways construction given to me by old fetlers who built the railway in the day.
One of my favourite drives in SEQ ( From Home at Coomera) is to head across through tamborine, to Beaudesert then down through Rathdowney, Wodenbong, then Koorelah, Legume, Amosfield and Stanthorpe (for lunch) then back up through warwick turning off, just after aratula, to head to boonah (Sometimes through Kalbar, one of my favourite SEQ small towns), and across to Beaudesert passing the Big Wayaralong reservoir and then home. Some absolutely quintessential aussie bush countryside.
@pquodling that's quite an epic drive! I've been to some of those place, but not all.
"Farmer Downes" that Donated the land for the St David's Church in the paper article was my Grandad's Grandad. Our property used to surround a large portion of the town. And the Lahey's sawmill that cut the timber for the Tamrookum Church was owned by the other side of the family.
Super cool and interesting connection! Thank you for sharing! Im loving these walk arounds and the history Rob! Again, great work mate!
Thankyou, I just love Aussie content and our history. A born kiwi I used to think the bush here was just scrubby nasty brown and dry cracked earth. Now I love this country more than words can explain. I love this dry parched country and it's history, I just cant get enough of this the best place on earth .
Same here I'm not religious either but I do find churches interesting from architecture perspective
I used to live in Rathdowney. Beautiful little town. There are some beautiful and historic houses in the area.
Also, car rallies and bikers bring substantial revenue to the town, especially on weekends.
Sometimes those noisey motorcycles give a very important cash injection into those little towns
Good job , I worked the railway in the eighties, you missed a significant thing at round mountain near tamrookum only a couple of ks , well during ww11 there was a prison there for American soldiers, the foundations of the main prison are still there , I remember they set up a pistol range next to the rail line , I’m sure I could find it , you could always sift through the dirt and pickup 45 bullets , they had a swimming pool but I guess it was more like a dam with no concrete, the prisoners broke rock at the south west part of the little round mountain it’s made from , I wrote a book about the history and tales I was told from the old fettlers , it’s white overgrown but you can drive to the border loop rumoured to be haunted ( the ghost of the border loop) a local legend , there were a number of military bases along the line , I started at Kagaru in 1985 , there were thousands of Americans stationed there and I was told they landed planes as near the steam water holding tank , still there , I still have a coke bottle from San Diego bottle co dated 25 December 1923 , this was the patent date for the drink not the bottle date , if you know where to dig there are many buried rubbish pits around the station, anyway so many more stories I was told , tales going back to the building of the track , cheers anyway Dan
@goneoutbackdan Is that borderloop you mentioned at that small round Mountain? Those foundations you mention I'd be keen to check out. Thanks.
Perhaps the baby had not been baptised - just a theory, not sure of the etiquette of the time.
Loved the movie 'Bush Christmas', I saw it at the movies when I was about 10.
Really enjoying walking about with Rob - subbed!
Lots of info there. I used to travel out there from Brisbane fairly frequently, for work. A question I have about Rathdowney is: Who was Mary Ann, and why did she have a gully named after her? As for Tamrookum, everybody I knew up there pronounced the "rook" bit like the bird, or chess piece.
Thanks for that, I worked on the rail at Glenappin to Border loop section, in my twenties, 63 now.
Wow thank you! I have been going down around Mt Barney for for over 25yrs and have seen and found out things from this episode that I never knew.
I'm surprised that you didn't include Flanagans Reserve, the site of the first goat cheese factory. I was also a stop over on the Cobb and Co line and has a grave of a mother and child who passed, will have to double check, during child birth.
Thank you for your channel 😊
You're welcome, and thanks for watching!
Subscribing to this channel has been one of the best things I’ve done for myself all year!
@SunshineSomeone671 One of the best comments I've ever received! Thanks!
So sad about the poor baby. As always, a lovely walk with you Rob. thanks for the hrs of work you put into these stories.
We live on Tamborine Mountain, however my hubby has an overpowering love for Rathdowney. Thank you for the walk and talk, i shall send this to my honey bunny hubby he will enjoy it. Oh! I am new found you October 29th 2023. Cheers
Could you do acacia Ridge a friends father lived there his whole life and his stories of what it was like when he was a boy where fascinating
Hey Rob, another awesome video mate. Any chance of a video for Christmas creek please mate. My father and his family came from those ways and I've never been there yet, he passed away some years ago and never really spoke much about it due to it being a traumatic period for him. So it would help to know of some the place's history if possible as I could imagine the requests you must get.
Its lovely here around Christmas creek. A bit dry at the moment
My Great Great Grand parents are buried there, William Williams and Emily Williams, and they worked on the Collins Station.
'Ooh a plaque!' Fully understand, mate.
Another great, interesting walk about, thanks Rob. x
@julieschipplock9439 thanks Julie!
Aaaww that was lovely and interesting, had no idea the tram line went that far. Feel for the poor bub buried out there alone. Good work again @walkaboutwithRob
All of your videos are really interesting Rob.
The implement you found is not a gun nor a farming implement of general sorts, but rather for the carting of felled tree trunks. Generally bullock teams would haul these felled trees to a mill the implement, It's called a whim.
So much I never knew about those areas. I usually just stop briefly in Rathdowney on my way through to the Condamine 4wd track. I love your artistic eye for great camera shots 😊
@shellebelle53 thanks! I try to make the cinematography as appealing as possible. But it certainly helps to have nice scenery to play with!
@@walkaboutwithrob absolutely...it was quite bucolic 😁
5.02 That's a "Bobtail" - used for getting the winch rope on an early dozer high enough to get the end of the large logs that were being dragged out in the old days off the ground. The wheels of those (and the wheels and flywheels off the old steam traction engines) make excellent flower beds and gate guardians. Not many hoons can lift 1 of those onto the roofrack! 😜😂😂
Amongst the "fiddles" that were used in the old days regarding land acquisition Rob, you might like at some distant time in your travels to research the "Land Orders" that were supposed to be granted to the "5-pound Krauts" and others who were signed up as assisted migrants/indentured labour in the second half of the 1800s. A few of the multitude of Hun ancestors had them listed against their names but few if any actually got to use them to get "on the land" after finishing their indentures as they were usually snapped up by the local squattocracy at a discount for survival funds and then used to grab the best country on the Downs et al. 🙄Plus ca change! 😉
5:03 Logging Winch, snigging winch, timberjack or something of the sort....
This is my new favourite channel
Awesome content ay
@neil38036 Cool, thanks!
Interesting fact about the church at Tamrookum is that it was built by the same architect as the sandstone St John's church at Jimboomba and was built as a memorial to the Collins family
Always enjoy your videos Rob. Thank you
there is a sweet tiny little church on kerry road, kerry. im not religious either but something about this little country church keeps making me want to turn around and go have a look
I wonder if that's the church where Bernard O'Reilly's grave is. He was the one who found the Stinson Crash Site and he was the owner of O'Reilly's Guest House and Lost World.
@@rossmurray2744 😯 oh wow, could you share more about the Stinson crash and Bernard? You sparked my interest 😇
@@trishlucas1855 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1937_Airlines_of_Australia_Stinson_crash
@@trishlucas1855 ruclips.net/video/lk6XcvbIF1Y/видео.html
@@trishlucas1855 Bernard O'Reilly wrote a book called Green Mountains and Cullenbenbong that explains his early life in the Megalong Valley near the blue Mountains and his later life in the Lamington National Park. It also tells his account of how he found the stinson crash site.
Crosses outside of cemetery modern times are in reminder of place of demise , older times without refrigeration it was prudent to bury on spot
Hi Rob 😊 Thank you for the videos, I enjoy them. I was wondering if you have plans to visit Gympie anytime soon? It is a very intresting town and the area around it has a lot to see.
@texans442345 yes for sure, it's been on my visit list for quite a while.
Love this channel mate always good shows.
Thanks for the video about this beautiful area. Both of my parents are buried at Tamrookum; the Church and cemetery are a special place.
Mine are buried at Christmas Creek
Very Interesting. I hardly knew any of that history. Many thanks.
Another great video! I went out today for a picnic by the lake as I just NEEDED some time outdoors, coming home and seeing you had a new video really was the cherry on top of an already awesome day ❤ thanks Rob!
Always interesting, cheers
Maybe the billiard room caused too many punch up's, so the community decided that they needed a cop shop!!! 🤣
Loved this tour! Thank you and keep up the awesome work!
Enjoyed that Rob. Rathdowney was the site of my one and only underage beer purchase. A case of Tooheys New (I suspect) to sustain four of us as we drove back from watching motorcross at Tivoli home to Kyogle. Talking about the end of 1975 here.
Thanks again Rob. Thoroughly enjoying your videos
Great video Rob, love the new sunnies too!!
Fantastic video! It’s so interesting, Thanks 🙏
@patriciaalonsobreier thanks Patricia!
I would have shut the gate. Another great video Rob! 👍
Very interesting and such a beautiful area ........ Well done Rob
Great video, didn’t realise there was so much interesting history in this area.
Enjoyed that very interesting 👍👍👍👍👍👍
nice workmanship in that church.
Thank you, Rob. Enjoyed that! How about exploring the history of Kooralbyn?
Sometimes a cross just marks the location of where someone passed, not necessarily a body there.
Wal Wilson is pronounced wol like Wally.
Well done Rob. Nice to see/hear a video where someone speaks clearly and doesn't mumble!
@bobmarshall3700 thank you! I was worried the strong winds that day would ruin all my audio.
love it 😊
Loved that thanks Rob..cracked up at the sign ..google it😅
There is a town in Vic called.. Magpie. When will you be presenting it to us . ? But in all seriousnest ,love to see what you could find on the Sunshine Coast areas.
Am very keen to explore areas of the Sunshine Coast. It's an area I know little about.
Enjoyable little journey
Gosh, so lovely
You almost made it to hillview and lamington. And up chinghee creek road . The old sawmill is still there. The town cricket pitch still visible across the road from the old lamington pub site. Workers from the interstate rail line used to travel to this hotel. The tramline ended at whats now burgess park campground.
The baby died during heavy flooding and the roads were cut off so no chance of getting her to hospital or a graveyard.
The Duke of York became the King when his brother abdicated in 1937.
He and his wife were in Australia to open Parliament House in Canberra.
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Servo gone butcher shop closed geeeeez sad too see used to live and frequent that area often .... south via Boonah
Those fuel prices!!
Awesome Vid Mate, I love the tree coming out of your Hat in the thumbnail 😀
@t-rocks1960 I didn't actually notice until you mentioned it.
@@walkaboutwithrob saftey dance !!!
that for logging
I suspect the 1927 child was out of wedlock, hence not to be buried on / in hallowed ground. Maybe thrown from a horse carriage and buried where the poor child fell? Elizabeth Wilson. RIP!
Or possibly they were catholic and the baby hadn’t been christened yet so as you say not allowed to be buried on hallowed ground
The babies father could've been working on the track and put her to rest there
I can fix that mower.
Lol, can u fix mine please
any mower
@@rolfgrosseholz1311 yes masport missing it’s petrol filter 🥲
Briggs...
What time did that train come past? Ive wanted to watch it cross the border ranges loop on the lions rd . ?
@gregw9469 I think it was about 10am.
My goodness, we all know what it was like and we have no comment holy hell
on ya.
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top video on Rathdowney Robert! Love the bono sunglasses, suits you! 😀
@ronti2492 they make me look even more amazing!
Absolutely Bono! @@walkaboutwithrob
Rob these are places Rath and Tamro that i would like to visit one day im too stuck liking the coast being by the water. I did for one Sunny sunday arvo visit Samford hotel i like it, it had that country charm and it wasnt too far from Brisbane to travel thanks for giving ideas your the original Great South East better then the Qld Weekender show on Sunday its got to outta hand that show, they revisit the same places over and over again
Driving my car along part of the tramway formation; ruclips.net/video/Q-hQFXv7I2I/видео.html
hahaha i played football here too!!!!!hahaha never played on a football field with so many cow paddy's in all my life .
The Glenapp train station is still there and looked after by 2 brothers. Should of stopped at round mountain too Rob where the ww2 prison was
One of the brothers has passed, only Rob now.
@thripflorin2746 I did consider going to Round Mountain but there just wasn't enough time to get out that way. I only have a day to shoot everything.
Give me a yell rob. Happy to take you for a trip n see rob from the glenapp bros too. Round mountain n more to xmas creek n beyond.
Btw rob, check out the origins of round mountain regarding mt warning 😉 your investigation skills are way better than mine
All the family stories
Hinze dam
The church steeple with cross atop , the Christmas/Mars mass tree with star atop . . the pyramid with eye atop , the gesture of Martian prayer . . Mount Olympus , the stairway to heaven . . Zeus giving us his son Apollo , God giving us his son Christ . . synchrotron radiation Sun swap times , between Earth & Mars closer before in north sky with two others behind , the holy trinity or devil in amalgamation if prefer to w_ank that way
@benwinter2420 have no idea what you're on about.
@@benwinter2420 is this relevant to the video?
@@walkaboutwithrob Yes , the churches shown architecture itself . . sorry for flaming deleted . . don't show churches then if don't want insight
@@benwinter2420 I can put whatever I want in my videos. And you didn't provide any insight, all you did was offer a nonsensical ramble.
@@walkaboutwithrob You don't have the IQ to think outside the box . . enjoy your mask again 2.0 coming next month
The motorcycles were the highlight of the video.