I’ve gained a new appreciation for the Chinese gear industry for releasing fairly cheap copies of insanely overpriced hype beast gear (and close to the same quality).
Because a lot of the time they're literally the same factory that makes them Haley strategic's manufacturer literally sells the same stuff on their own AliExpress shop for much less
I have a multicam chicom rig from pheonix tactical. Sadly it glows like a Christmas tree under NV. However surplus cotton chicom rigs and cultural revolution repro uniforms are suprisingly IR compliant if you want IR compliance make sure they're advertising that they use US imported cordura. (Brands that do this include emerson and TMC)
As long as they use the original material thats IRR treated you'll be fine, but of course thats what everyone says. The trick is to get stuff in multicam, usually those are imported cordura while the other colors(like ranger green etc are just chinese repros that dont have irr treatment), its a good tell that they use imported materials too if the multicam option is more expensive than the other colors
@@swegmastur614 oh here's another tip. if you're on taobao get the stuff in the newest Chinese military camo (starry sky). If it is genuine product, then it is going to be IR complaint. No clue if China's domestic variant of multicam is IR compliant or not
A cease and desist from Travis Haley and Spiritus Systems will be in the mail asap. In all seriousness, Chang comes through with some decent stuff. If it’s one thing the Chinese know, it’s textiles.
I sent a link to a copy of a haley rig directly to them and they were like that looks like shit then ignored it. I've got the actual haley rig and the knock off did look like shit I just wanted them to know.
another thing China makes well is aluminum accessories. I've been running a knockoff Geissele mount on my AR for a year now (sorry Bill, I'm not paying $325 for a piece of aluminum). I also have knockoff Arisaka offset red dot and flashlight mounts that have taken multiple drops with no issues. Seems like if it's a simple piece of aluminum with no moving or super tiny parts China can make it just fine.
Interesting video. Gear made in the North America and Europe is expensive. Some Chinese reproductions and whatnot are pretty decent quality. It's often a gamble whether or not a piece of gear from China will be good. I mostly buy gear made by small US companies, so it's very pricey. I've been tempted by some of the clothing made in China and other Asian countries. I'm just not sure of the overall quality and NIR compliance. If I had to guess, a lot of that stuff probably glows like a Christmas tree under IR. But then again, so does a lot of US made clothing.
Its probably fine honestly. Tactical gear is obscenely overpriced. Look at the kydex market as an example theyre selling less than $20 worth of material for over $100. Its stuff you can make in your garage if you have some basic tools
@@burtbiggum499 I've recently been looking at clothing made by companies like Helikon Tex, Pentagon and Ur Tactical and wondering how the quality is. I wouldn't call this stuff inexpensive, but it's cheaper than American made clothing.
Very curious about the IR laser device. Always looking for an alternative to the grossly overpriced mil contract products on the market. I don't see why it's so pricey to produce a damn laser pointer with a sturdy body that holds zero. It's really simple technology these days.
Two other things from Ali Express that are pretty good are the fake Magpul slings (MS3,MS4), I have real Magpul slings and I honestly cant tell the difference, and the fake Surefires from WADSN.
I have been running chinese gear for years. They often use Cordura material and the prices are very good. Quality is also very good and sometimes you cant tell a clone from the real thing. For example i was running a Crye CPC clone that came like 150$ made from Cordura. The only negative i found was the cheap plastic buckle that i replaced with a cobra buckle. No reason to pay 700$ for a original one in my opinion.
Back in the day they copy it for fun and tacticool people because Airsoft is banned in there but people get around the law marketing laser and gel blaster which increase the needs of quality of gear costing them to be very good, I've used both 2010 gear and 2018 Chinese gear, they actually holds
If you’re referring to that big one on his helmet, it’s an MS-2000 IR strobe, pretty old, but bright af under night vision, and weighs a little more than the new hotness Helstar 6 IR strobe which is smaller.
I bought a JPC clone off Temu and I won’t lie, besides smelling like a fucking fish market, it hasn’t failed me yet. Probably lights up like Times Square under IR but fugg it
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I’ve gained a new appreciation for the Chinese gear industry for releasing fairly cheap copies of insanely overpriced hype beast gear (and close to the same quality).
I paid $500 for my JPC 2.0 just to realize the TMC version has the same quality and even a little better
My German plate carrier for $199 is so incredibly well made. It will last 80 years for sure. The jpc feels like wish/Amazon stuff.
@aesthetic8780 look at ur playe carrier under nods then get back to me 😊
Because a lot of the time they're literally the same factory that makes them
Haley strategic's manufacturer literally sells the same stuff on their own AliExpress shop for much less
Yup, Chinese manufacturing has improved a lot since the 90s
Having used both Chinese repro and legitimate gear, the legitimate stuff does tend to be better but it’s a very diminishing returns type deal
It would be cool to see the IR signature of each of those compared to the actual materials they're officially made with it.
I’m curious if there is any (doubtful) IRR fabric impregnated in the nylon.
I have a multicam chicom rig from pheonix tactical. Sadly it glows like a Christmas tree under NV.
However surplus cotton chicom rigs and cultural revolution repro uniforms are suprisingly IR compliant
if you want IR compliance make sure they're advertising that they use US imported cordura. (Brands that do this include emerson and TMC)
As long as they use the original material thats IRR treated you'll be fine, but of course thats what everyone says. The trick is to get stuff in multicam, usually those are imported cordura while the other colors(like ranger green etc are just chinese repros that dont have irr treatment), its a good tell that they use imported materials too if the multicam option is more expensive than the other colors
cheap spray paint has the same effect of hypebeast coatings.
@@swegmastur614 oh here's another tip. if you're on taobao get the stuff in the newest Chinese military camo (starry sky). If it is genuine product, then it is going to be IR complaint.
No clue if China's domestic variant of multicam is IR compliant or not
A cease and desist from Travis Haley and Spiritus Systems will be in the mail asap.
In all seriousness, Chang comes through with some decent stuff. If it’s one thing the Chinese know, it’s textiles.
I sent a link to a copy of a haley rig directly to them and they were like that looks like shit then ignored it. I've got the actual haley rig and the knock off did look like shit I just wanted them to know.
my strat has been to not cheap out on "base" gear like plate carriers, placards and belts, then buy the cheaper accessories like mag inserts
Or when it comes to essential/lifesaving/safety equipment (no temu optics)
always funny when people realize that those who have been making everything for years are pretty good at making things
another thing China makes well is aluminum accessories. I've been running a knockoff Geissele mount on my AR for a year now (sorry Bill, I'm not paying $325 for a piece of aluminum). I also have knockoff Arisaka offset red dot and flashlight mounts that have taken multiple drops with no issues. Seems like if it's a simple piece of aluminum with no moving or super tiny parts China can make it just fine.
Honestly you are on the money on that, the hardware is not the best in some cases
Yes dude! Great content! Answwring the hard hitting questions
Interesting video. Gear made in the North America and Europe is expensive. Some Chinese reproductions and whatnot are pretty decent quality. It's often a gamble whether or not a piece of gear from China will be good. I mostly buy gear made by small US companies, so it's very pricey. I've been tempted by some of the clothing made in China and other Asian countries. I'm just not sure of the overall quality and NIR compliance. If I had to guess, a lot of that stuff probably glows like a Christmas tree under IR. But then again, so does a lot of US made clothing.
Its probably fine honestly. Tactical gear is obscenely overpriced. Look at the kydex market as an example theyre selling less than $20 worth of material for over $100. Its stuff you can make in your garage if you have some basic tools
@@burtbiggum499 I've recently been looking at clothing made by companies like Helikon Tex, Pentagon and Ur Tactical and wondering how the quality is. I wouldn't call this stuff inexpensive, but it's cheaper than American made clothing.
Ur tactical is gtg, I’ve got a good bit of stuff from ‘em.
Very curious about the IR laser device. Always looking for an alternative to the grossly overpriced mil contract products on the market. I don't see why it's so pricey to produce a damn laser pointer with a sturdy body that holds zero. It's really simple technology these days.
Anything sold to the DOD has an insane markup because the system is broken
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Two other things from Ali Express that are pretty good are the fake Magpul slings (MS3,MS4), I have real Magpul slings and I honestly cant tell the difference, and the fake Surefires from WADSN.
I have been running chinese gear for years. They often use Cordura material and the prices are very good. Quality is also very good and sometimes you cant tell a clone from the real thing. For example i was running a Crye CPC clone that came like 150$ made from Cordura. The only negative i found was the cheap plastic buckle that i replaced with a cobra buckle. No reason to pay 700$ for a original one in my opinion.
Great video. Becoming tacti-cool these days is too expensive.
It's all from China anyway 🙈
Back in the day they copy it for fun and tacticool people because Airsoft is banned in there but people get around the law marketing laser and gel blaster which increase the needs of quality of gear costing them to be very good, I've used both 2010 gear and 2018 Chinese gear, they actually holds
This is good content, thank you guy
Can you provide some links perhaps?
I like to buy Chinese bagspags and pouchs, they are cheap and very well made.
2:20 it's not camouflaging under nvg, like most AliExpress stuff
What’s the IR device called and where do you get it?
If you’re referring to that big one on his helmet, it’s an MS-2000 IR strobe, pretty old, but bright af under night vision, and weighs a little more than the new hotness Helstar 6 IR strobe which is smaller.
That partisan jacket is sick.
Does anyone have a link to that same one?
Not gonna lie, Russian stuff is pretty decent. Ratnik gear and newer is solid af
i think the ratnik stuff is mediocre, for sure not worth the scalped price
For the algorithm
CCP gear 4 lyfe
Lmfaooo
it’s called dialectical materialism.
The funniest part is it all comes from the same country 😂
20$?? I got mine for $4 😂😂😊
Yes globalization was epic. Now let’s get those American prices down!
Blep
I bought a JPC clone off Temu and I won’t lie, besides smelling like a fucking fish market, it hasn’t failed me yet. Probably lights up like Times Square under IR but fugg it