A really excellent video guy's, thank you! I have a HW77 and its absolutely superb. My parent's bought it for me,as a Christmas present, nearly 30 years ago, and I can still remember shooting it on a snow covered Christmas morning,fabulous memories! It still shoots superbly and I love it. Best wishes to you both.
1985 .22 hw77 for christmas and my mate got an anshultz 335 in .22 and my other mate a .22 Feinwerkbau sport 127 cold wind dark sky's and thick snow on the ground, the best day as a lad that i can remember airgunning with mates that are no longer with us.
Great stuff again guys. The HW77 mk2 was the most accurate Springer I ever had, still got an HW80 one of the most solid reliable spring rifles ever made. I remember lusting after a custom HW80 with a tyrolean walnut stock that Streatham Armoury had many years ago. Thoroughly enjoyed it yet again guys, thank you and keep em coming.
I’ve only just discovered your show, but I’m a huge fan now. I’m a huge fan of Weihrauch and own most of Weihrauch’s current line up of spring guns. I’ll be binging on your past shows all weekend.
Great video, mates, a phantastic idea to present part of the history of Weihrauch's airguns. I got a Haenel 303, purchased it in East - Berlin shortly after the Wall broke down. Haenel, like Weihrauch, Walther and Anschütz all come from the same region in Germany (Zella-Meelis and Suhl), but Haenel ist the only company that is still there. They don't produce airguns anymore but machine guns for the Bundeswehr ( army).
Eye candy. I remember the Beeman catalogue well, and my old HW 35E. The new model (35E) shoots really well too. Nice video for all of the diehard Weihrauch fans. Thank you.
ive just picked up a 2004 ( thats when it was bought from a store ) 77 in a hard case, no pitting on the barrel and to be honest it looks brand spanking new, the previous owners father purchased it to add to his air arms guns etc it was his favourite gun and he only used it 4 times before oiling it and putting it in a hard case and then taking ill and passing away, his son kept it in its case and never took it out. realistically it cost me £120 and a 49 mile drive. Feels very solid and i cant wait to try it out, just looking for a local permission and jobs a goodun
Just came across this show by accident,brought back some great memories. I no longer shoot but have previously owned a Webly mk111,BSA Airsporter and my last one Weihrauch HW35E,a great rifle.Nice show guys.
'Every day is a school day'. :-) Sorry about the Vixen safety catch sticking (now fixed). Just hardened grease through non use - a bit like me really. I will use light oil (Balistol) in future. I removed the Anti-B trap because that used to be my HFT gun and when the 'STOP SHOOTING' was called I was able to de-cock my gun and not waste a cherished (washed, weighed, sized) pellet. The '55 barrel lock is adjustable and 'cams' the barrel back into the action. Tony - I do have a HW50 but its not got a pop up breech. Ive never even seen such a beast.
Outstanding show guy's and on my favourite topic as well,which is anything Weihrauch, is really great to know some of the history behind the product,keep 'em coming
One of my favourite videos. Such likeable guys and so much interesting information on some wonderful rifles. Please do some more videos chaps this stuff is golden :)
I’m sat in a hospital bed after having some really horrible surgery feeling a bit pants and sorry for myself ‘ Then I find you guys have put a new one out and suddenly I feel a lot better. Thank you so much guys and girl. Love the show.
I have both a 22 Mk1 HW77K bought in 1984 now tuned to 15.5 ft/lb, and a new 22 HW97KT Blackline also at 15.5 ft/lbs used for target and vermin control. Both shoot excellent groups out to 50 Metres using H&N Sniper Magnums at 17.9 grns. I have tried a TX 200 but couldn't get on with the side rachet anti-beartrap device. I have owned HW35's, HW80's in both calibres over my shooting years. Excellent video keep up the good work.
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80, the hw 77 or the hw95 and which caliber, if could only use open sights? I would really appriciate your opinion.
Pleae, can you give me advice on what Whaireircher too buy. I'm in EU Croata, so I can haw max output ( not restricted yet:)). I hawe not big yard behind house so I can plink at 10/15meaters. But I haw a beautiful big ranch . So I would like too hawe somthing that is not crazy loud and can go with a scope of 40meatars+ ( on target). Also, I'm thinking, too, going with 22 and most interesting, too. mee is Weihrauch 77 whit straight berole. But I don't know how hard it is to fix the underliver. Cos too mee 3 things are most important: servis of my gun that is easy, litle noise and plinking whit scope on 40/50meatars Please litle help and thanks allot . Cos gun and scope cost almost 1000€ so I want to buy the best and not too bee dust colector .
Very good to see those older Weihrauchs, I had a very early HW80 that I bought in 1980, but sadly sold it five years later. Recently started shooting again with my HW99S and AA s510. Looking forwards to the next show and shoot off!
Great video, I’d happily sit through hours of airgun history vids. Interesting fact about all those manufacturers ending up in Zella Mehlis because that’s where the allied trucks dropped them off. Nice one Tony👍 HW55t is the tyrolean stocked version btw. I’m lucky enough to have one and they shoot like a dream. Cheers guys
@greekveteran2715 Think the 95 doesn't come with open sights. What you should do is pick a few up, put them to your shoulder & the one you like the feel of you should buy, I would get a 77k.
Superb video- very enjoyable trip down Weihrauch memory lane! I own 2 x HW77K's- one being a Venom Lazaglide, I've owned it since I was 16 in 1987, the other being a V-Mach tuned 77. 2 x HW80k's- one being a Venom, the other being a V-Mach Lazaglide. I have just bought a very tidy 1980 HW35E- tuned with a Tinbum kit, which I cannot wait to get to grips with, they are a classic rifle, very well engineered, and very influential on later HW rifles eg HW80. The Vixen HW35 had chromed internal parts- including the piston, spring and guide. The barrel locking catch was also chromed. They came with a specific 'Vixen' gun bag, and a certificate back in the day. They are very rare and becoming collectible- I just missed out on buying a very nice one earlier this week. The Rekord trigger *IS* the finest trigger mechanism, I've never found a better trigger. I own a Theoben Evolution- that I bought from Lloyd about 3 months ago- lovely rifle, but the trigger is not a match for the Rekord. I also own an AA TX200- superb piece of British engineering- but once again, the trigger isn't quite as good as the Rekord. I suspect that straight out of the box, the TX200 might edge the HW77. However, when it comes to tuned versions, the 77 will win the top honours I suspect. A tuned 77 is superlative, and they are iconic rifles. I concur with Lloyd, if I had to take one air rifle on to a desert island, it would be a HW80k- they are hewn from granite and will last a life time. You cannot go wrong with a Weihrauch, it's that simple. Back in the 80's, the 77 and 80 were the Big Boys on the block, with the 77 completely dominating FT competition shooting. If you didn't have a 77, you weren't in the competition! Quality video- Keep up the great work lads! :)
For anyone wondering, Dr Robert (Bob) Beeman sadly passed away on August 25th, 2021 at the age of 89. Dr. Airgun, as he was affectionately known, was a professor of marine biology and started Beeman Precision Airguns, along with his wife, in 1972 from their home in California.
Love it. Hw 35 a classic air rifle from Happier times. I sold my venom Hw 80 and the 77 but for some reason not the 35 ive had it since 1980 and couldn't even tell you how many Rabbits pigeons and rats ive shot with it. All with open sights i hasten to add due to the old 35 barrel droop being a pain packing out the scope mount but when shooting crossman premiers in on of these old gals you can get a 1 or 1.5 inch group pretty easy with irons at 25 yards. Great channel. Love it bring on the old ones.👍
@@greekveteran2715 Hello mate....hmmm for me the Hw80 in .22 ,,,,,I have never shot a 95 with irons ,,,,,,I've shot the 99 with irons , what a cracking little rifle.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I'm 6 ft tall, I was closer the the Hw80 in 22. cal, even though most people I read in forums, say that the lighter hw95 would be the best choice. The official dealer I called today, said he has 2 in stock, the hw 80 and the hw77 in Laminate stock! Il'll order the hw 80 in 22.. with the power it has, sounds like the real deal. Thank you very much for the help. I really appriciate your opinion, haven't shot a springer in more than 2 decades!!
i remember tuning my 35 when I was a lad..leather piston seal, it was so sweet out to sixty yards .177 H&N match, it was so accurate..brilliant bunny gun
Hi Lloyd, Bought a new TX200 .177 Walnut stock from yourself last October.Shoots great out of the box, bought a new Hw97 last month and the first thing I was told was throw away the internals and fit a new kit. which I have done.Still prefer the TX and this is what I would take on a desert island.Great show with Tony and yourself.
Cracking show lads really interesting and knowledgeable history I love HW and own 3 a personally rebuilt 85 and 2 80 had many 77 s I always remember John Darling shooting a venom it was always a dream to own one cant wait for the next installment of your show the shoot off should be a eye opener cheers lads keep it up
Another really interesting video. I like the inside knowledge of the airgun industry Tony has, keep up the good work you two. You’ve got to do a Theoben episode one day!
Thank you for a great show of the classic weirauchs, i have a Hw35 .177 from 1969,with JSB Exact diablo 8.44, 4.52 headsize, this is her chrono numbers: 216, 215, 216, 216, 216, 216, 215, 214, 216, 216 m/s, not bad for a 50 year old german lady...And she wear the leather piston seal….
Normay was Norman May & Co. Back in the day... I had a couple of Mk 1 77s and neither had an anti bear trap. My Mk 2 which had the Arminius revolver cylinder release button for a lever release did have one and I removed it. Mk 3s had the button in the end of the lever. All wonderful rifles/carbines.
My first gun was an HW77 with the same stock as shown, bought second hand for 150 quid. Three or four guns down the line I had a new TX200. Point is I can not remember shooting the 77 some 35 odd years ago. But I distinctly remember the sound and smoothness of the TX 25 years later.
Excellent stuff , the shoot ~ off will be great , can't wait . PS. I'm still stinging over the silencer name ( wraith ) hope the guy who chose that is recovering in drug re-hab ...
I had an HW35 in the 80's which had an "Auto Safety" button. You pushed in the button for "Fire Mode". It also featured the annoying "Wierauch Click" at that time. I also fitted it with a "Rhino" - Post & Crosshair scope & Mount which features an Arrestor pin which dropped into the Arrestor hole in the gun to Eliminate Scope Creep!!
hi lads i'm new to this mullarky and about to get my 1st weirauch (a hw 99 s ) , I got the bug a few months ago when I found an old Webley hurricane pistol + 1 1/2 tins of ely wasp pellets in my dads wardrobe after he died , its like new and very accurate , I have the odd go at the part tin of the wasps but mainly use rws super domes , never knew how addictive this sport was haha
I'm in the process of servicing my HW35E I bought new in 1983, manufactured in 1980 according to the serial No. Doesn't get used that often, a bit of back garden plinking and keeping rats off the bird feeders. It's never been stripped in all that time but decided to do so after power seemed to have tailed off. Found a broken spring but everything else is nigh on perfect, even the original leather washer. A new spring, some new nylon bits and a re-lube should do the job. 👍
I have a scruffy example of an HW25 which needs some work as pellets barely leave the end of the barrel. It is very much a small and lightweight junior rifle, almost a toy tbh, the barrel is only 12mm in diameter, the OD of the cylinder is 25mm (under 1 inch) and the trigger is a basic non-Rekord version. I'd guess the questionable wisdom of marketing guns specifically for children is part of the reason it was discontinued, similar to how toy soldiers are no longer made of lead.
Guys can you do a special about Hänel air guns or Suhler Luftgewähr from the city Suhl.? My favorite is the model 300 , a brake barrel. Was my first ever air gun and I loved it!!!
Hi very informative videos with nice guns, especially took my interest and wanted you’re advice because very soon I’m going to pick up a Weirhauch, the seller in Manchester has 2 guns, a hw35 e 1980 walnut stock, re blacked and mint, Or he has a 1981 mk1 hw80 re blacked and mint but with brass trigger and trigger guard, in your guys opinions and I know it’s a tough 1 but which is the best choice for buying and keeping hold of? With resale evaluation in mind years down the line and so on. the 35s a .22 and the 80 a 1.77. Any advice greatly appreciated thanks.
Wasn’t the pop up breech Weihrauch the HW57? I heard a few times you referred to it as the HW50? I believe the HW50 in its newest form is the euro version of the UK HW99s and there was an earlier HW50 model but that didn’t have the rekord trigger. Good video though chaps really enjoy the content 👍🏻
The HW50 was produced from the late 1940s in various forms. The early version were smooth bore due to Allied Occupation rulings. Some models of '50 had the Rekord trigger some the Perfect unit. (interchangeable). Ive also never seen a '50 with a pop up breech. I have heard that early HW trigger guards were carved from wood due to a lack of materials and a surplus of staff.
Hi just came across this great video insight .I'am lucky to own both a HW77 & TX200 would like to see your test between them do you a link please thanks
Nothing wrong with the Hw98, superb gun. Not sure why Tony doesn't like the 85 although there were a few issues with the cocking levers galling on the cylinder .
What is the name of the sound effect that Tony played? Dissident? Uprising against the oppressive audience? (All in good fun, of course). This was my favorite show, and I look forward to HW77 vs TX200 shoot out.
We are waiting until we have the shooting range finished to do a proper job but at the moment its under water . Looking forward to doing it too, its one of the most asked questions and needs an answer.
@@blackpoolairrifles9311 Thanks for reply, I would like a definitive answer with a proper test. Perhaps out the box, then tuned with just a drop on kit/polish etc would be perfect.
Any news on when the much anticipated HW97/HW77 vs TX200/Pro Sport videos will be coming out ? Really liked your older videos, very good information and entertaining.
Interesting video guys. Question: which air rifles made today will be the vintage rifles in the future? What will the classics be that we look back on?
@@MrJoshuaJJJ in the 70's people were still charging Giradoni bottles, that is before they became worth a king's ransom. We have pressure tested quite recently a brass and a stainless midas tube, which passed fine. so although there would be risks, and it would have to be filled with care, I think I would probably say a steel tube without rust might be ok for a hundred or so years?...ill let you know :)
I diagree. It's the worst model Weihrauch have ever made. You can't fit a silencer and the pop up breach is rubbish. One of the reasons why they are bringing out a new version shortly that hopefully solves the issues.
@@LloydSchober I bought my HW57 13 years ago and have never had a problem with it or the pop up. Admittedly it is very hold sensitive and pellet fussy but spending a while getting to know it pays off. That's not to say it hasn't frustrated me in the past because it has. I think people give up with it too quick without really getting to know it. I bought a HW97 a few days back and I'm struggling at the moment but I know in time it will make good.
Hi Guys, I have the Air arms TX200 walnut with a bit of brass bling and a HW97 Stainless fitted into a Lukas Parsley walnut laminate TAC2 stock and to be honest I really don’t like to choose between the two, I’ll be very interested in your head to head though. Great piece of informative chat. Cheers.
The HW85 is still available (although presumably a more recent iteration?) and so is the HW35E. I'd be interested to hear why the HW85 wasn't so indestructible and why Tony thinks it's the worst of the bunch. Forgive my ignorance, but I thought the only difference between the HW85 and the HW95 was the barrel length (the 95 being shorter) but it sounds like there are actually some other differences. The HW57 is the modern pop-up breech under-lever model rather than the HW50, I believe the HW50 is a break-barrel which is also designated as the HW99. I agree that a slightly scaled down version of the HW77 would be preferable over the HW57. Weihrauch could release it as the HW67.
You didn't even mention the 90 the most innovative breakaway from the norm outside of theoben ! the gas ram rifle that ordinary folk could afford. good show guys ! atb phil.
Webley airgun, Christopher Thrale from 1925 to2005, I have ordered through Amozon online shopping and already paid!But I couldn't receive yet my Air Gun!Please details about webley airgun.
What happened to this channel as there has not been no new videos for so long.. Anyway would love to see some more videos from this channel as its probably one of the best of the UK air gun channels..
great show ,gentlemen. but the first airgun is a hw30 s . the s version had the rekord trigger. i once had a normal one, awful trigger if you have been spoiled with the rekord trigger. as for the hw 35 i believe that was a bsf design bsf was a airgun company in bayern (bavaria) and the hw77 well have a look at the feinwerbau 300s the airgun that won everything in 10 meter championships. and if the rekord trigger is a real fine one, dont shoot the feinwerkbau 300s you wont find a better one..
Interesting... I actually own a 35E, been in the family decades, also top marks on break barrel handling, I always without fail hold the barrel whilst loading, I saw the damage do when a mate at school used to laugh at me, he was lucky not to lose a finger or two when his bsa meteor sear slipped, I've seen more people load break barrels without holding the barrel than doing it correctly.... Makes me cringe 😣😣
The Weihrauch Barracuda, the ether injected '35 (and Ive heard some models of Original tried it) is the only HW35 I dont have in my collection due to it being F.A.C. :-(
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A really excellent video guy's, thank you! I have a HW77 and its absolutely superb. My parent's bought it for me,as a Christmas present, nearly 30 years ago, and I can still remember shooting it on a snow covered Christmas morning,fabulous memories! It still shoots superbly and I love it. Best wishes to you both.
Best wishes to you too Philip , and thanks for watching :)
I have the very same memory but the rifle was an anshultz 335 in .22
@@philforbes7467 Thank you for your reply. It really is a wonderful memory,and I am delighted that you have a similar one. Kindest regards. Philip.
@@hotair4269 I missed your reply somehow! A very belated thank you, and my kindest regards to all the team. Philip.
1985 .22 hw77 for christmas and my mate got an anshultz 335 in .22 and my other mate a .22 Feinwerkbau sport 127 cold wind dark sky's and thick snow on the ground, the best day as a lad that i can remember airgunning with mates that are no longer with us.
Great stuff again guys. The HW77 mk2 was the most accurate Springer I ever had, still got an HW80 one of the most solid reliable spring rifles ever made. I remember lusting after a custom HW80 with a tyrolean walnut stock that Streatham Armoury had many years ago. Thoroughly enjoyed it yet again guys, thank you and keep em coming.
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80, the hw 77 or the hw95? I would really appriciate your opinion.
@@greekveteran2715 HW77
@@iandixon9604 Old is Gold brother, Thanks!!!
@@greekveteran2715 Better late than never. Your welcome my friend.
I’ve only just discovered your show, but I’m a huge fan now. I’m a huge fan of Weihrauch and own most of Weihrauch’s current line up of spring guns. I’ll be binging on your past shows all weekend.
Great and interesting show really enjoyed it, thank you both, Cheers
Great video, mates, a phantastic idea to present part of the history of Weihrauch's airguns. I got a Haenel 303, purchased it in East - Berlin shortly after the Wall broke down. Haenel, like Weihrauch, Walther and Anschütz all come from the same region in Germany (Zella-Meelis and Suhl), but Haenel ist the only company that is still there. They don't produce airguns anymore but machine guns for the Bundeswehr ( army).
Eye candy. I remember the Beeman catalogue well, and my old HW 35E. The new model (35E) shoots really well too. Nice video for all of the diehard Weihrauch fans. Thank you.
Great show...just gets better and better...well done...
Excellent episode, very interesting history. Beeman catalogues were amazing in the 80's.
That 77 is gorgeous rifle, can't wait for the other parts.
ive just picked up a 2004 ( thats when it was bought from a store ) 77 in a hard case, no pitting on the barrel and to be honest it looks brand spanking new, the previous owners father purchased it to add to his air arms guns etc it was his favourite gun and he only used it 4 times before oiling it and putting it in a hard case and then taking ill and passing away, his son kept it in its case and never took it out. realistically it cost me £120 and a 49 mile drive.
Feels very solid and i cant wait to try it out, just looking for a local permission and jobs a goodun
Excellent as always, can wait for the next one!
Brilliant knowledge yet again, thanks guys .77k absolute classic 👌🏾
Just came across this show by accident,brought back some great memories.
I no longer shoot but have previously owned a Webly mk111,BSA Airsporter and my last one Weihrauch HW35E,a great rifle.Nice show guys.
Interesting as always, love learning little history snippets. All the best fellas
Thanks Emma :)
'Every day is a school day'. :-) Sorry about the Vixen safety catch sticking (now fixed). Just hardened grease through non use - a bit like me really. I will use light oil (Balistol) in future. I removed the Anti-B trap because that used to be my HFT gun and when the 'STOP SHOOTING' was called I was able to de-cock my gun and not waste a cherished (washed, weighed, sized) pellet.
The '55 barrel lock is adjustable and 'cams' the barrel back into the action.
Tony - I do have a HW50 but its not got a pop up breech. Ive never even seen such a beast.
Im beginning to regret not buying that rifle
Outstanding show guy's and on my favourite topic as well,which is anything Weihrauch, is really great to know some of the history behind the product,keep 'em coming
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80, the hw 77 or the hw95? I would really appriciate your opinion.
One of my favourite videos. Such likeable guys and so much interesting information on some wonderful rifles. Please do some more videos chaps this stuff is golden :)
hats off to ian jones once again supplying airgun nostalgia...great episode lads..
Owt to promote airgunning and collecting. :-)
I’m sat in a hospital bed after having some really horrible surgery feeling a bit pants and sorry for myself ‘ Then I find you guys have put a new one out and suddenly I feel a lot better. Thank you so much guys and girl. Love the show.
Get better soon Mark , Thanks for the lovely comments. If it helps you feel better its been worth it :)
Ditto to Lloyds comments: get well soon Mark!
TONY BELAS Thanks guys. More than appreciate your very kind words. 😀
I have both a 22 Mk1 HW77K bought in 1984 now tuned to 15.5 ft/lb, and a new 22 HW97KT Blackline also at 15.5 ft/lbs used for target and vermin control. Both shoot excellent groups out to 50 Metres using H&N Sniper Magnums at 17.9 grns. I have tried a TX 200 but couldn't get on with the side rachet anti-beartrap device. I have owned HW35's, HW80's in both calibres over my shooting years. Excellent video keep up the good work.
Quinch42 have you tried the predator polymags? Best pellet in my 77
How could one get 15.5 ft lb HW95, spring, grease??
@@6lr6ak6 FAC. Spring upgrade.
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80, the hw 77 or the hw95 and which caliber, if could only use open sights? I would really appriciate your opinion.
Pleae, can you give me advice on what Whaireircher too buy. I'm in EU Croata, so I can haw max output ( not restricted yet:)). I hawe not big yard behind house so I can plink at 10/15meaters. But I haw a beautiful big ranch . So I would like too hawe somthing that is not crazy loud and can go with a scope of 40meatars+ ( on target). Also, I'm thinking, too, going with 22 and most interesting, too. mee is Weihrauch 77 whit straight berole. But I don't know how hard it is to fix the underliver. Cos too mee 3 things are most important: servis of my gun that is easy, litle noise and plinking whit scope on 40/50meatars Please litle help and thanks allot . Cos gun and scope cost almost 1000€ so I want to buy the best and not too bee dust colector .
Very good to see those older Weihrauchs, I had a very early HW80 that I bought in 1980, but sadly sold it five years later. Recently started shooting again with my HW99S and AA s510. Looking forwards to the next show and shoot off!
Great video, I’d happily sit through hours of airgun history vids. Interesting fact about all those manufacturers ending up in Zella Mehlis because that’s where the allied trucks dropped them off. Nice one Tony👍 HW55t is the tyrolean stocked version btw. I’m lucky enough to have one and they shoot like a dream. Cheers guys
Last 3 months I have bought 3 new rifles HW35 HW95 HW97K Have owned all before, born again airguner, thanks to both for a great review
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80, the hw 77 or the hw95? I would really appriciate your opinion.
HW95 would be Good my friend
@greekveteran2715 Think the 95 doesn't come with open sights. What you should do is pick a few up, put them to your shoulder & the one you like the feel of you should buy, I would get a 77k.
Superb video- very enjoyable trip down Weihrauch memory lane! I own 2 x HW77K's- one being a Venom Lazaglide, I've owned it since I was 16 in 1987, the other being a V-Mach tuned 77. 2 x HW80k's- one being a Venom, the other being a V-Mach Lazaglide. I have just bought a very tidy 1980 HW35E- tuned with a Tinbum kit, which I cannot wait to get to grips with, they are a classic rifle, very well engineered, and very influential on later HW rifles eg HW80. The Vixen HW35 had chromed internal parts- including the piston, spring and guide. The barrel locking catch was also chromed. They came with a specific 'Vixen' gun bag, and a certificate back in the day. They are very rare and becoming collectible- I just missed out on buying a very nice one earlier this week.
The Rekord trigger *IS* the finest trigger mechanism, I've never found a better trigger. I own a Theoben Evolution- that I bought from Lloyd about 3 months ago- lovely rifle, but the trigger is not a match for the Rekord. I also own an AA TX200- superb piece of British engineering- but once again, the trigger isn't quite as good as the Rekord. I suspect that straight out of the box, the TX200 might edge the HW77. However, when it comes to tuned versions, the 77 will win the top honours I suspect. A tuned 77 is superlative, and they are iconic rifles. I concur with Lloyd, if I had to take one air rifle on to a desert island, it would be a HW80k- they are hewn from granite and will last a life time.
You cannot go wrong with a Weihrauch, it's that simple. Back in the 80's, the 77 and 80 were the Big Boys on the block, with the 77 completely dominating FT competition shooting. If you didn't have a 77, you weren't in the competition!
Quality video- Keep up the great work lads! :)
Excellent informative video! The Tyrolean stock on that lovely HW77...amazing!
I have a 35 and i still love using it i think its still a crackin springer ...interesting vid thanks guys
For anyone wondering, Dr Robert (Bob) Beeman sadly passed away on August 25th, 2021 at the age of 89.
Dr. Airgun, as he was affectionately known, was a professor of marine biology and started Beeman Precision Airguns, along with his wife, in 1972 from their home in California.
Such a loss to the airgun scene. RIP Bob :(
Love it. Hw 35 a classic air rifle from Happier times. I sold my venom Hw 80 and the 77 but for some reason not the 35 ive had it since 1980 and couldn't even tell you how many Rabbits pigeons and rats ive shot with it. All with open sights i hasten to add due to the old 35 barrel droop being a pain packing out the scope mount but when shooting crossman premiers in on of these old gals you can get a 1 or 1.5 inch group pretty easy with irons at 25 yards. Great channel. Love it bring on the old ones.👍
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80 or the hw95? I would really appriciate your opinion.
@@greekveteran2715 Hello mate....hmmm for me the Hw80 in .22 ,,,,,I have never shot a 95 with irons ,,,,,,I've shot the 99 with irons , what a cracking little rifle.
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I'm 6 ft tall, I was closer the the Hw80 in 22. cal, even though most people I read in forums, say that the lighter hw95 would be the best choice. The official dealer I called today, said he has 2 in stock, the hw 80 and the hw77 in Laminate stock! Il'll order the hw 80 in 22.. with the power it has, sounds like the real deal. Thank you very much for the help. I really appriciate your opinion, haven't shot a springer in more than 2 decades!!
@@greekveteran2715 very wise ....The Hw 80 is legendary and stood the test of time , power , accuracy , and the build Quality second to none. 👍
@@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069 I can't wait to hold it in my hands! Like a kid in Christmas day! Thanks again, God bless you
i remember tuning my 35 when I was a lad..leather piston seal, it was so sweet out to sixty yards .177 H&N match, it was so accurate..brilliant bunny gun
An interesting show, thanks very much. Great to understand a little more of the Weihrauch story and their guns. Keep them coming 🙂
Hi Lloyd, Bought a new TX200 .177 Walnut stock from yourself last October.Shoots great out of the box, bought a new Hw97 last month and the first thing I was told was throw away the internals and fit a new kit. which I have done.Still prefer the TX and this is what I would take on a desert island.Great show with Tony and yourself.
The Soviet sector East German guns re amazing too, I own a 1959 produced Haenel from the VEB Ernst Thälmann Werke, awesome gun after all that years!
Cracking show lads really interesting and knowledgeable history I love HW and own 3 a personally rebuilt 85 and 2 80 had many 77 s I always remember John Darling shooting a venom it was always a dream to own one cant wait for the next installment of your show the shoot off should be a eye opener cheers lads keep it up
Yes john darling himself was a classic and is dearly missed.
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80, the hw 77 or the hw95? I would really appriciate your opinion.
Another really interesting video. I like the inside knowledge of the airgun industry Tony has, keep up the good work you two. You’ve got to do a Theoben episode one day!
love to. we both have loads of info and anecdotes on Theoben!
TONY BELAS that would be a great episode I’m sure 👍
Great video! Thanks.
Thank you Miguel.
When I was younger, the Beeman catalog was an ‘education’ in air guns.
Excellent video gents!
Thank you for a great show of the classic weirauchs, i have a Hw35 .177 from 1969,with JSB Exact diablo 8.44, 4.52 headsize, this is her chrono numbers:
216, 215, 216, 216, 216, 216, 215, 214, 216, 216 m/s, not bad for a 50 year old german lady...And she wear the leather piston seal….
Normay was Norman May & Co. Back in the day... I had a couple of Mk 1 77s and neither had an anti bear trap. My Mk 2 which had the Arminius revolver cylinder release button for a lever release did have one and I removed it. Mk 3s had the button in the end of the lever. All wonderful rifles/carbines.
My first gun was an HW77 with the same stock as shown, bought second hand for 150 quid. Three or four guns down the line I had a new TX200. Point is I can not remember shooting the 77 some 35 odd years ago. But I distinctly remember the sound and smoothness of the TX 25 years later.
Thanks for the HW80 tip. Im looking for a nice used one now. To go with my Ford Anglia from Bangers and Cash lol.
Great show chaps, please do visit the guys from the cornish Red squirrel project, how interesting!
Excellent stuff , the shoot ~ off will be great , can't wait .
PS. I'm still stinging over the silencer name ( wraith ) hope the guy who chose that is recovering in drug re-hab ...
Spot on lads, looking forward to the shoot off for me the 77 will always be just that fraction better
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80, the hw 77 or the hw95? I would really appriciate your opinion.
Great vid cheers shane uk 🇬🇧
I had an HW35 in the 80's which had an "Auto Safety" button. You pushed in the button for "Fire Mode". It also featured the annoying "Wierauch Click" at that time. I also fitted it with a "Rhino" - Post & Crosshair scope & Mount which features an Arrestor pin which dropped into the Arrestor hole in the gun to Eliminate Scope Creep!!
hi lads i'm new to this mullarky and about to get my 1st weirauch (a hw 99 s ) , I got the bug a few months ago when I found an old Webley hurricane pistol + 1 1/2 tins of ely wasp pellets in my dads wardrobe after he died , its like new and very accurate , I have the odd go at the part tin of the wasps but mainly use rws super domes , never knew how addictive this sport was haha
I'm in the process of servicing my HW35E I bought new in 1983, manufactured in 1980 according to the serial No. Doesn't get used that often, a bit of back garden plinking and keeping rats off the bird feeders. It's never been stripped in all that time but decided to do so after power seemed to have tailed off. Found a broken spring but everything else is nigh on perfect, even the original leather washer. A new spring, some new nylon bits and a re-lube should do the job. 👍
Yep, the guns themselves will live forever, usually its just a spring or a seal to get them back to perfect.
Mijn HW35 heb ik al 54 jaar. Geweldige buks, met gedraaide lange loop.
Excellent show. My HW97 gets as much use as any of my PCPS. A whole day of shooting without stopping to fill.
I would love a classic 80's Venom HW 80 someday. I love this series, keep it up! ....Looking for a HW45 shoulder stock if anybody has one?!
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80 or the hw95?
I have a scruffy example of an HW25 which needs some work as pellets barely leave the end of the barrel. It is very much a small and lightweight junior rifle, almost a toy tbh, the barrel is only 12mm in diameter, the OD of the cylinder is 25mm (under 1 inch) and the trigger is a basic non-Rekord version. I'd guess the questionable wisdom of marketing guns specifically for children is part of the reason it was discontinued, similar to how toy soldiers are no longer made of lead.
I have a 80 mk1 1.77 35e 1972 few others I think older hw rifles better made than new
I have one vintage Haenel model VII / made around 1928 for sale. If anyone wants, do let me know. It's a collector's delight.
Can you email my shop please, enquiries@fieldsportsequipe.co.uk with images
Guys can you do a special about Hänel air guns or Suhler Luftgewähr from the city Suhl.? My favorite is the model 300 , a brake barrel. Was my first ever air gun and I loved it!!!
Great vid guys.... Maybe a video about tuning kits/custom tuning/custom high grade stocks for springers?
September Chris. All will be revealed very soon :)
@@hotair4269 Looking forward to it.... HW95??
@@chriscrocker3589 Hoping to do a tuning kit comparison later in the year, and possibly a Venom history episode
Dead good vid as usual gents. Are you going to put your content out on Giles's airgun101 site?
Can´t wait for the comparison of the " best springer of the world " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel so Lucky owning both the HW80 and a TX200 'mk 1's 😁
Pease sir,If you could only use open sights, which would be better, the Weirauch hw80 or the hw95? I would really appriciate your opinion.
@@greekveteran2715 I don't own a HW 95 so couldn't comment on it sorry,,
@@airwavepaul Thank you for the response. I ended up on the hw80 fac .22 cal.
3 mins in, I am stopping watching, I am going to save this treat for later...full attention no disturbance.
Actually, me too. I was trying to overcome insomnia,..this one won't help,...so when I'm wide awake, I'll finish this.
Please,Which Weihrauch is the best, if you could only use open sights? I would really appriciate some help.
I would go for a Hw80 but tune it so it shoots sweet, they are a bit bouncy when new.
Hi very informative videos with nice guns, especially took my interest and wanted you’re advice because very soon I’m going to pick up a Weirhauch, the seller in Manchester has 2 guns, a hw35 e 1980 walnut stock, re blacked and mint, Or he has a 1981 mk1 hw80 re blacked and mint but with brass trigger and trigger guard, in your guys opinions and I know it’s a tough 1 but which is the best choice for buying and keeping hold of? With resale evaluation in mind years down the line and so on. the 35s a .22 and the 80 a 1.77. Any advice greatly appreciated thanks.
When we get that Ataman rifle reviewed from the left hand bottom corner?
Wasn’t the pop up breech Weihrauch the HW57? I heard a few times you referred to it as the HW50? I believe the HW50 in its newest form is the euro version of the UK HW99s and there was an earlier HW50 model but that didn’t have the rekord trigger. Good video though chaps really enjoy the content 👍🏻
The HW50 was produced from the late 1940s in various forms. The early version were smooth bore due to Allied Occupation rulings. Some models of '50 had the Rekord trigger some the Perfect unit. (interchangeable). Ive also never seen a '50 with a pop up breech. I have heard that early HW trigger guards were carved from wood due to a lack of materials and a surplus of staff.
Yes, slip of the tongue. It was the 57 :)
The 85 is still produced for the European market i bought one not long ago beautiful gun
I didn't know that, thanks for the heads-up :)
Hi just came across this great video insight .I'am lucky to own both a HW77 & TX200 would like to see your test between them do you a link please thanks
Hw77 vs Webley eclipse surly? Great video fellas 👍🏽👍🏽😎
Classic Weihrauchs. Yum.
Tony said the HW85 is the worst Weihrauch does that apply to the HW98 as well, or is the 98 a completely different design?
Nothing wrong with the Hw98, superb gun. Not sure why Tony doesn't like the 85 although there were a few issues with the cocking levers galling on the cylinder .
What is the name of the sound effect that Tony played? Dissident? Uprising against the oppressive audience? (All in good fun, of course). This was my favorite show, and I look forward to HW77 vs TX200 shoot out.
'in münchen steht ein hofbräuhaus' a German beer drinking song... So now you know 😏
That HW80 looks like it is a lefty. Had a RH version back in the 80s.
Did you ever make the video about the 97/77/TX200 comparisons/which is best? I'd love very much to see that!? :)
We are waiting until we have the shooting range finished to do a proper job but at the moment its under water . Looking forward to doing it too, its one of the most asked questions and needs an answer.
@@blackpoolairrifles9311 Thanks for reply, I would like a definitive answer with a proper test. Perhaps out the box, then tuned with just a drop on kit/polish etc would be perfect.
@@blackpoolairrifles9311 I expect the TX to edge it out the box, but the HW to annihilate it once some tuning has been done.
I have a 35e exactly the same as the one shown, anyone know the flb, and FPS. And it's value.
Great vid guys. Have you done a 77 vs TX comparison yet?
Saving that for the first video we do when Tony can get to the studio. Coming soon :)
Any news on when the much anticipated HW97/HW77 vs TX200/Pro Sport videos will be coming out ?
Really liked your older videos, very good information and entertaining.
Recently picked up a HW80k in black finish,for £50 ...good buy ?
Yep, a bargain :)
i have a hw77k also a air arms tx200hc
Could you please make a video of a HW90"
Interesting video guys. Question: which air rifles made today will be the vintage rifles in the future? What will the classics be that we look back on?
HW100 gorra be ........... surely ?
I'm not going to tell you , because It's interesting enough to talk about it on the show :)
Hot Air excellent! Would definitely make an interesting subject to hear your thoughts :)
Will any pcp be a future classic due to the high pressure air cylinders and metal fatigue? I wont like to pump up a Giffard!
@@MrJoshuaJJJ in the 70's people were still charging Giradoni bottles, that is before they became worth a king's ransom. We have pressure tested quite recently a brass and a stainless midas tube, which passed fine. so although there would be risks, and it would have to be filled with care, I think I would probably say a steel tube without rust might be ok for a hundred or so years?...ill let you know :)
Have just become the owner of an hw55 its a bit rough but works good . down side some clown has engraved a name on the stock.
The HW57 is a very underrated Weihrauch.
I diagree. It's the worst model Weihrauch have ever made. You can't fit a silencer and the pop up breach is rubbish. One of the reasons why they are bringing out a new version shortly that hopefully solves the issues.
@@LloydSchober I bought my HW57 13 years ago and have never had a problem with it or the pop up. Admittedly it is very hold sensitive and pellet fussy but spending a while getting to know it pays off. That's not to say it hasn't frustrated me in the past because it has. I think people give up with it too quick without really getting to know it. I bought a HW97 a few days back and I'm struggling at the moment but I know in time it will make good.
@@LloydSchober Have you got a link for the new HW57? Thanks in advance.
@@shaunwild8797 Not yet bud. Weihrauch haven't put them on the website yet but I know for certain they are coming soon :)
If you were to recommend two weihrauch break barrels, what would they be? In FAC.
HW 95 or 98 and a HW77 or 97 . Best breakbarrel and best underlever rifel .
What year is that 80 from?
Early-mid eighties
Hi hot air
Where can I buy a regulator for the brocock bantam sniper hr mk2
I would think Daystate would be your first port of call, or maybe buy one direct from Huma .
Where did you guys go? I went looking for the tx200 Vs hw97/77 vid you said you were going to do, but your vids just stopped 😢
Covid and a bad motorcycle accident . Hot Air isn't dead though , we will hopefully be making more :)
@@blackpoolairrifles9311 sorry to hear about your accident, and very glad there will be more videos in the future. Wishing you a speedy recovery
The "Auto Safety Button" on mine therefore had the "Anti Bear Trap" feature.
Hi Guys, I have the Air arms TX200 walnut with a bit of brass bling and a HW97 Stainless fitted into a Lukas Parsley walnut laminate TAC2 stock and to be honest I really don’t like to choose between the two, I’ll be very interested in your head to head though. Great piece of informative chat. Cheers.
The HW85 is still available (although presumably a more recent iteration?) and so is the HW35E. I'd be interested to hear why the HW85 wasn't so indestructible and why Tony thinks it's the worst of the bunch. Forgive my ignorance, but I thought the only difference between the HW85 and the HW95 was the barrel length (the 95 being shorter) but it sounds like there are actually some other differences. The HW57 is the modern pop-up breech under-lever model rather than the HW50, I believe the HW50 is a break-barrel which is also designated as the HW99. I agree that a slightly scaled down version of the HW77 would be preferable over the HW57. Weihrauch could release it as the HW67.
I would like to see them bring out a either injection weihrauch barakuda rifle from the 1950s
You didn't even mention the 90 the most innovative breakaway from the norm outside of theoben ! the gas ram rifle that ordinary folk could afford. good show guys ! atb phil.
I have one of these. A hw90k. It's a thing of beauty.
Hello again I've got a good talking point in my hw80 mike wade long stroke rifle
Have you actually done a tx200 vs 77k video?
Not yet. Tonys impossible to get hold of but I'm going to do it on my own in the next couple of months .
@@blackpoolairrifles9311 and maybe a Diana 54?
Webley airgun, Christopher Thrale from 1925 to2005, I have ordered through Amozon online shopping and already paid!But I couldn't receive yet my Air Gun!Please details about webley airgun.
Sorry I don't understand. We don't sell anything on Amazon ?????
What happened to this channel as there has not been no new videos for so long.. Anyway would love to see some more videos from this channel as its probably one of the best of the UK air gun channels..
Covid happened , but we are planning more episodes later this year :)
@@LloydSchober thanks for the reply and im so pleased to hear there will be more to come I will definitely be looking forward to them..
Just met Tony today nice guy Lloyd is still Lloyd
You wouldn't have me any other way darling x
great show ,gentlemen. but the first airgun is a hw30 s . the s version had the rekord trigger.
i once had a normal one, awful trigger if you have been spoiled with the rekord trigger.
as for the hw 35 i believe that was a bsf design bsf was a airgun company in bayern (bavaria)
and the hw77 well have a look at the feinwerbau 300s the airgun that won everything in 10 meter championships.
and if the rekord trigger is a real fine one, dont shoot the feinwerkbau 300s you wont find a better one..
Interesting... I actually own a 35E, been in the family decades, also top marks on break barrel handling, I always without fail hold the barrel whilst loading, I saw the damage do when a mate at school used to laugh at me, he was lucky not to lose a finger or two when his bsa meteor sear slipped, I've seen more people load break barrels without holding the barrel than doing it correctly.... Makes me cringe 😣😣
How much would you do me a hw98 with a vmac kit in it and a hawk 2x7x32 ???oh in .20 calibre
Can you contact BAR through the shop and we will work out a deal :)
You forgot to mention the barrel droop on the 35 and the link between Weihrauch and the H&N Baracuda ;)
Damn !
The Weihrauch Barracuda, the ether injected '35 (and Ive heard some models of Original tried it) is the only HW35 I dont have in my collection due to it being F.A.C. :-(
; you mean you dont have ether?
Only to drink.
GET THE FLY!
its protected by natural england
Dont kill it. Spray it with hair spray so it has glide everywhere.