French army in 1940: What Nolan's "Dunkirk" did not show you
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2017
- Commenting the release of Christopher Nolan's "Dunkirk" movie, British historian Max Hastings said that 'The French will have to make their own film if they want their national story properly told.' I am ok with that, although I believe allied people should not feel annoyed to recognize the contribution of each others. "Dunkirk" movie is terribly historically inaccurate and unfortunately, I know many people will still take it for historical stuff although Nolan did not claim so.
Here are some actual footages of the French Army fighting in France in June 1940 (Fall Rot), after the evacuation of Dunkirk. And also combats in Norway in May 1940. Truth must be told and shown about the actual contribution of French military and Free French Forces/French Resistance in WW2, and we shall not accept that our grand-fathers be forgotten or grossly ignored. My statement is also made for WW1 after the ignominious "Battlefield 1" video game where the French Army was given a secondary DLC version despite its massive and decisive role in Allied victory in 1918.
My other videos in English about France’s participation in WW2 :
France in 1944: Occupation, Collaboration, Resistance, Liberation ENGLISH SUBTITLES (full documentary)
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The owner of this channel is doing such a good job to make the English speaking world more aware of the efforts of the French military, in both the past and present.
From a Brit, I thank you as there isn’t enough French military history online or in popular film and tv 🇬🇧🇫🇷
Thank you very much :D
yes history is very much like that in every way
History is often very skewed, and as in this film shows the truths airbrushed from history I salute the French troops,vive le France!
i am french and from provence france. I agree with what you said and I thank you for pointing that out. Countries like france, poland, italy etc. deserve their stories to be listened
Play me your very welcome my ancestry is from partly France the DuHamels of Burgundy.
the French are criminally underated and understated in both World Wars.
Stupid French Bashing ,,,from anglo saxon propaganda,,,are you the little from US ?
christmar67 wait was this directed towards me?
@@ph390 il a dit que les français étaient criminellement sous-estimés dans les deux guerres mondiales.
C'est un compliment qu'il fait au français.
T'es con ou bien ?
@@mathieuhernandez1381 c toi qui n as rien compris... connard..ceux qui critiquent la France je leur pisse au cul..toi avec.. je suis spécialisé en histoire et j aime le géo politique...ne te mesure pas avec moi
@@ph390 toi t es vraiment un stupide gamin.
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My grandfather was taken prisoner at dunkirk.
A few quotes about the behavior of the french army at Dunkerque or Lille:
General Georg von Küchler, commander of the XVIIIth army of the Wehrmacht, entirely engaged around Dunkirk, this is taken from his war diary:
"Despite our overwhelming superiority in men and hardware numbers, the french troops are counter-attacking in several places. I can't understand how those soldiers, sometimes fighting at one versus ten (or even one versus thirty in some areas), can find enough strength to assault us: this is simply amazing ! I see in those french soldiers the same energy than with the veterans of Verdun in 1916. For several days now, hundreds of bombers and guns are pounding the french defence. But, it's always the same thing: our infantry and panzers can't break through, despite some local and ephemeral successes. The french high command has very smartly set up his troops and artillery. I fear that the Dunkirk operation could be a failure for all of us: almost all the BEC and the biggest part of the french 1st Army will escape, because a few thousands of braves block the path to the sea. That's distressing, but that's it !
Dunkirk brings the proof that the french soldier is one of the best in the world. The french artillery, already dreaded in 1914, demonstrates once more its efficiency. Our losses are terrifying: numerous battallions have lost 60% of their men, sometimes even more !
By resisting ten days or more to our much bigger forces, the french army has accomplished, in Dunkirk, a superb achievement that you must pay tribute to.
They have certainly saved Great-Britain from the defeat, by allowing the british professional army to reach the british coast."
General Franz Halder's diary, one of the chief of staff of the Wehrmacht:
"May 18th 1940: the Führer still worries a lot about the southern flank. he's furious and claims that we take the best path to make the whole campaign fail ! The french troops never stops counter-attacking.
May 21st 1940: that day starts in an extremely tense atmosphere: reports indicates a serious pressure on the northern flank of the IVth army. The VIth army faces a solid front.
May 22nd 1940: our tanks, that are currently fighting in the south, have met a powerful enemy. Our panzerdivisionen suffer too many losses and attack without being required to. Stress is growing.
May 23rd 1940: the losses for the tanks of our ten panzerdivisionen reach 50% ! The french resistance is fierce."
Winston Churchill in his War Speeches, talking about the french resistance at Lille:
"Those frenchs, under the brave command of general Molinié, have during four critical days contained not less than seven german divisions that, otherwise,would have participated to the attacks of the Dunkirk perimeter. Thoses troops thus brought a splendid contribution to the safety of their luckier comrades and of the BEC."
Thank you SO MUCH for this MERCI
Here a nice video about the defeat in France, and Dunkirk (destroyed 90%).
ruclips.net/video/w6C5P-AYGdY/видео.html
Do you think Nolan didn't know about this. He knew and decided not to talk about it in purpose. Wich purpose ? Money because it is known that glorifying French is the besf way for a movie not to work
@bibouba Did you make up most of Kuchler's speech? Since he didn't say all that.
@@nikolagosaric3039 at least not in German. The statement does not fit as well to the history.
I am French and Dutch. I am a big fan of that channel for it is proving to England that the French has done their duty and done it very well. Count me in as a subscriber.
I learned once that in the past Dutch used to say "always be friend with French but never their neighbour"
Hollywood est une machine de propagande tres efficace, malheureusement...
yawn. the french army has been britians wipping boy for centuries. then the germans. facts are facts
@Roger Uraeus ahhahaha. the French have been Britain's whipping boy forever then the germans beat the hell out of them. I guess if u dont have a 14 year old girl or a Corsican leading u well.. game over
jack johnson how low is you iq?? Oh wait your american so that explains it
@@jackjohnson-wv5fh et aller encore un mouton anglo saxons naïf qui crois tout ce qu'on lui dit. Tu es au courant qu'on te fait de la propagande ou pas ?
@@vincentwitt1810 I'm actually not American. oh I see ur french. how sore is ur ass from the English and germans always stomping all over it country
Nolan's Dunkirk move was hyped beyond belief. He played fast and loose with the truth and with historical accuracy in depicting the battle. It reinforced so much of the myth & propaganda that has obscured the truth for the past 70+ years. It also lacked significant historical context that would've helped modern audiences understand just why the war reached that point and its significance.
Il ne voulait que le public, et un public américain qui réfléchit ben ça existe pas. Par contre pour nous traiter de lâches il y a du monde
Yes it's great to see this material on France's fierce fighters. A tanker veteran of Patton's 3rd, my Father loved the French, and later got a USAF assignment in France with his new wife my Mother in tow to live off base, in a French village, and have a great time... I was conceived and almost born there!
You're welcome to visit your 2nd country
The ratio of losses by day by the french in may june 1940 was more important than the losses of russians in Stalingrad, in fact more than twice. The french were not cowards in 1940, they were ill commanded and were like ALL the other allies, totally outmatched strategically speaking by the Germans.
and the japanese in the Pacific.
@@mazirsoufik258 no , french soldier where ordered to give up the colony by petain, idk if they all followed order
@@puebespuebes8589 some didn't and went into the jungle with the help of some locals. No supplying, no reinforcement. And the Japanese treated them with extreme crualty. Now those few braves and their helpers are nearly erased from History
The first few days of Fall Rot were very tough for the Germans. The French didn't roll over for them. Their troops fought on with great courage, but they were overwhelmed. They essentially had no air support, so the Luftwaffe had free reign.
They did have great planes and pilots but the organisation of the French Air Force was not modern enough, just like tanks. Small squadrons with support missions, never enough planes to fight back where the Luftwaffe stroke
Gloire immortelle de nos aieux.
Qu'ils reposent en paix.
great video thanks for posting , it s a real shame that more is not made of the french armies role in saving the British expeditionary force at dunkirk in 1940.
Thanks mate...
Since one century and more french and british soldiers are fighting together like brothers in arms.
@John Mickael SRN
No. Blame rather the paid liars who spread lies to destroy Western Solidarity And Community Of Values.
It's political. Roosevelt hated De Gaulle and he planned to create an European Confederation and even printed "French dollars". Roosevelt wanted to destroy France
@@nicolasdubus669 True but De Gaulle prevailed finally ! :)
@@user-yf4up2px2u as socialist as I am I'll always thank him and the women and men who followed him
"Their business is war, and they do their business" -Rudyard Kipling. Talking about the French.
Is that in Kim ?
Merci ! 3 divisions françaises se sont sacrifiées à Dunkerque pendant plus d'une semaine pour stopper l'avancée des troupes allemandes !Dommage que ce ne soit qu'à la gloire des britanniques qui au passant avaient prévu leur retraite bien en amont .
Pertes Bataille de France: britanniques 3500, françaises 55000, allemandes 60000 !
Et il ne faut surtout pas oublier la féroce bataille de Lille. Les Allemands ont accordé les honneurs militaires aux troupes qui défendaient cette place forte. Comme quoi des officiers Allemands respectaient les lois de la guerre et l'honneur, enfin les plus courageux
Gloire aux soldats de 40!
The French army certainly fought very determinedly and bravely at the start of the German invasion, and their contribution is criminally understated (particularly in the Anglosphere). As you will know, the French army held around 70% of the perimeter in Dunkirk.
That being said, once the back of the French army was broken, morale dropped, and it is a matter of record that large numbers gave up the fight very easily. Who can blame them if all is lost and everything looks very desperate.
The British losses that you cite are for the Dunkirk evacuation only. British losses for the Battle of France were 68'000, of those it's generally accepted that a third would be killed. Even if we take a quarter, that's still 17'000 dead.
You forget also that the British army - though a professional force - was heavily reliant upon the professional French Army until it could build itself up. There were around 250'000 British troops in France and Belgium, circa 75% of her army. Britain's land contribution was small, but she couldn't afford to lose the little she had.
If the roles had been reversed, I suspect the French would have done exactly the same and retreated. No-one can afford to lose the bulk of a professional army once a battle is lost.
16 700 French KIA per week in six weeks of may june 1940 (100 000KIA).The losses of the French army during the French campaign of May June 1940 were five times more per week than those of the French losses per week of the First World War and ten times more than that of American troops per week during the second war.
Merci beaucoup d'avoir traduit ce document pour qu'il soit plus accessible, c'est vraiment révoltant de voir comment le sacrifice de nos ancêtres est ignoré de cette façon, encore merci pour votre travail
Merci à toi et à vous tous pour votre soutien !
Les anglais, les étasuniens nous ont volé nos victoires dans cette guerre, maintenant les algériens, les sénégalais prétendent que ce sont eux qui ont libéré la France des nazis 😄, personne parle du fait que ce sont les combats des soviétiques à l’est qui ont permis de libérer la France et d’autres pays de l’armée allemande... La France a perdu la moitié de sa population masculine à cause de la première guerre mondiale, c’est pourquoi elle avait moins de combattants que l’Allemagne pour la seconde, d’où sa défaite...
Hélas...i'm French and a deeply proud one. However,unfortunately, who care about what we have been passing through in 1940 ? On my mother's side, my grand'father spent 6 years in a Stalag after a month fighting till he was forced to surrender in Dunquerque...on my Father's side, poor man, he was wounded from a schnarpell in the head, in Aisne and, saddely, never really recovered from that...a lost generation ?...but yeah, i'm French, you know ? these guys who are dropping their weapons in front of the enemy bla, bla, bla, bla....
In Dunkirk, the British army fought to the last Frenchman standing
You where fighting for your country but we are still Brothers British and French
Shame you French sat on your ass and did nothing for 5 weeks in 1939 when 85% of the Wehrmacht was in Poland.
Hardly a french soldier there you thick headed muppet, mostly canadians, go back to sleep shit for brains woke dummy..
@@danijallefebvre7791
what does this sentence even mean
@@smal750 i thought he said dieppe...
Same french soldiers in ww2 as in ww1... same courage, but sadly a different result...
Actually the evacuation of the British army in Dunkirk would not have been possible without the hard fighting of the French armed forces around Dunkirk, holding back the Germans giving just enough time and sacrificing more men per day than during the battle of Verdun. This is not enough recognised by historians, too quick to dismiss French fighting spirit in 1940. They were lions led by idiot Generals.
je suis content que toi aussi, tu as réagis au fait que dans ce film, ils n'aient pas montré les soldats Français.
I am from the Philippines and I too, appreciate what the french did suring world wars 1 and 2. its not true that they surrendered easily and they are cowards, those who say so are the real cowards and ignorant.
True.
Anyone who has studied this period of history should be wary of attaching blame to any of the allies - British or French. The remarkable evacuation of some 140,000 allied troops, of which 100,000 were French plus 198,000 British troops was an exercise of determined effort in the face of massive force. My father was captured, with the rest of the 51st Highlanders, defending this retreat at St. Valery. He came home, after escaping again, from the Red Army in Berlin in 1945. He counted himself lucky.
Weird things happenend still. For example when the French navy in north Africa saw allied ships approaching, sailors were waving with great joy but unfortunately the allied ships started firing and sunk the French ships, because they thought French navy would follow Petain. With this and also the Toulon disaster the allies lost precious strength. In 1944 when Montgomery decided to bomb the hell out of Caen and other towns to spare british soldiers, causing 30 000 civil deaths for zero result, it was also very sad, when one think Montgomery was saved in Dunkirk thanks to sacrifice of French troops. Tough stories.
Thanks to your father to have fought on the soil of France.
@@OneMoreCaptain The french were fired upon because they refused to signal back to the British to say whether they were going to fight or not. Thank their commanders for not replying when given the opportunity and the British men were told that they were NOT Nazis- they are French. They WERE following/collaborating with Petain, hence the Nazis. The British had nothing to gain by shooting at potential allies and everything to lose as they needed men to fight the Germans. They had a choice but made the wrong decision.
@@rescuepetsrule6842 Not so simple. The British asked for the French to surrender their boats to the British navy. The French commanders answered they wanted to keep their fleet. The British then said: if you keep commanding, we will consider you are enemies.
@@rescuepetsrule6842there was no wait for an answer you are mistaken Mers El Kebir was a surprise attack, part of operation catapult. French boats refuged in Plymouth were also attacked by night From Wikipedia, English edition not written by french side: "Admiral François Darlan, commander of the French Navy, assured the British, even after the French armistices with Germany and Italy, that the fleet would remain under French control but Winston Churchill and the War Cabinet judged that the risk was too great".
The French army and airforce etc did it’s job well even though France was defeated a large portion of the Luftwaffe was destroyed should people really call them cowards?
Only people who never saw their far country occupied by a terrorist regime
The French soldiers were indeed very brave but they were also defending their homes. Unfortunately their leaders had a lack of strategic clarity and some horrendous decisions made it virtually impossible for the British to help them without being defeated also.
The German tactics of Blitzkrieg and the attack through the Ardennes split the allies and the with fall of Belgium it ensured their defeat. The British organised a tactical withdrawal to Dunkirk and the French became isolated in Lille and had no option but to fight on or surrender.
The Battle of Arras managed to slow the German forces but was not followed through and was too little too late but had a disproportionate effect on the Germans because the higher commanders were apprehensive about flank security.
The BEF continued to defend their withdrawal and the 2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards of the 3rd Division, rushed to reinforce the line near Furnes, where the British troops had been routed. The Guards restored order by shooting some of the fleeing troops and turning others around at bayonet point. The British troops returned to the line and the German assault was beaten back.
Meanwhile the RAF attacked the Germans and flew 2,739 fighter sorties, 651 bombing raids and 171 reconnaissance flights. Fighter Command claimed 262 enemy aircraft, losing 106 of their own.
After the last rescue boats left Dunkirk, the Germans captured some 40,000 French troops as well as at least 40,000 British soldiers.
Both the French and British did all that they could in the face of adversity and many brave men suffered from all sides including my Grandfather who was one of those that were left behind and for the next five years, mistreated and abused in violation of Geneva Convention. The POWs were denied food and medical treatment. The wounded were jeered at and some were summarily executed. To lower officer morale, the Nazis told British officers that they would lose their rank and be sent to the salt mines to work. They were forced to drink ditch water and eat putrid food. “These dreadful days were never forgotten by those who endured them. They had fought the battles to ensure the successful evacuation of over 300,000 fellow soldiers. Their sacrifice had brought the salvation of the British nation. Yet they have been forgotten. whilst those who escaped and made their way back home were hailed as heroes.”
no the real problem is that as we said in french British arrive with a knife pocket and them dick in them hands no artillery nothing just men.... So they wasnt ready to fight thats all...
On oublie souvent la Bataille des Alpes et la Bataille de la Vallée du Rhône du 21 au 25 Juin, où les chasseurs alpins et le groupement Cartier repoussèrent les Italiens ET les Allemands sur 2 fronts, pendant 4 jours jusqu'à l'Armistice !
oui, la SS Totenkopf repoussée au nord de Lyon. Dernière ligne de front de l'armée française : le Col de la République, dans le Pilat. Et la défaite italienne est complètement oublié c'est vrai, ils ont quand même perdu 4000 hommes, mais leur objectif était de toute façon totalement imprenable.
Oui c'est vrai ,tout comme la bataille de STONNE , de LILLE et CALAIS ou bien la résistance des cadets de SAUMUR. Ou la bataille de BIR HAKEIM et le role déterminant des français a MONTE CASSINO
@@lankoubzh6340 et la libération de Marseille, Lyon, Paris et Strasbourg aussi.
oui tu as raison . ce qui me rend triste c'est que les 3/4 des français ne connaissent pas ces faits et croient ce qu'on leur dit dans les films hollywoodiens
C'est par ce qu'elles n'ont pas joués de rôles majeurs, c'est tout
Thanks for this. About time 'Us British 🙂' recognized the sacrifices France gave for freedom. Unfortunately Propaganda and media favor Victors. We didn't manage to get 350:000 troops out of Dunkirk on our own.
It's so easy for some populist leaders to use frenchbashing to look after some ballots. We have populists to in France, and we feel the rivalry with English, but there is no english bashing here, not at the same scale than in UK or US. Funny things those two countries are so called "united" but deeply divided
@@nicolasdubus669 what do you expect were full of heretics like this plum, also people of different cultures who couldnt give a shit about the land they now live in, just as long as they can keep suckling the teets of a nations kindness and wealth, the worst ones are the natives with ancestral connections dating back years, the worst is these zed gender bending woke lefties, who have no love, honour or loyalty to a country that gave them and their ancestors everything, and why they're never had to want or worry about their freedoms and liberties as with a third world country...
@@wor53lg50 I'm a French socialist, I hate the wokes and the cancel culture but I hate alt right to, the wokes and the lefties are not the ones who created french bashing. But I feel that thanks to the war in Ukraine we will see who is ready to fight and die for western values
Nicolas Dubus and WOR53L G :
The myth of the French soldiers of 1940 who didn't fight and surrendered without firing a shot is a pure "Vichy propaganda", which is still believed today. Have a look at a video here on RUclips : "L'armée française de 1940 était-elle si nulle" by La Folle Histoire.
@@phlm9038 merci camarade
Anyone who disrespects the french and italians in WW1 and 2 is just showcasing their ignorance
That's right. The 33rd French SS Division Charlemagne stood bravely against the communist hordes in the Battle of Berlin.
@@gh87716 They indeed did fight most bravely! They certainly were ideologically mistaken, but bloody good and brave soldiers!
@@st-ex8506 I disagree on that they were ideologically mistaken. They fought against the raping communist monster, while the rest of their countrymen sided with them. But yes! At least we can agree that they fought valiantly!
Nous avons besoin d'un film comme Dunkerque mais sur les Français! Il y en a trop sur les Américains et les Britanniques!
@CONTE Raphaël écoute il on bien fait un film sur des anglais qui se barrent alors pourquoi pas sur l'offensive de la sarre x)
Week end a Zuidcoote, déjà fait ce film, encore faudrait-il le regarder au lieu de chouiner
Week-end à Zuydcoote - Best book and then best movie on Dunkirk
Très bon film.
De formidables acteurs et, la sublime Catherine Spaak.
Livre écrit par un formidable écrivain (fortune de France entre autres) Robert Merle qui fut soldat à Dunkerque .
Super vidéo, Net ! Essentielle par les temps qui courent !
Merci beaucoup Cajun ! :D
Je me suis permis de mettre des liens vers cette vidéo depuis la mienne !
:D
Faut que HCT colorise tout ça ;)
@@thecajuncutthroat cajun ? Tu es d'Amérique ?
The French should have won their incompetent command officers were responsible for the defeat many fail to see that France suffered 100,000 causlties over a very short period I feel for those men I now have a better understanding of what really happen the French were not cowardice
Yes, I agree with you(Nettempereur).Dunkirk's movie made from Nolan didn't show French soldiers in action and fighting against Germans troops.So "Dunkirk' movie showed just Britishs evacuating. "Dunkirk" is only a sentimental movie!
A chaque fois tu nous sort des images d'archives que j'ai jamais vu auparavant. Je sais pas comment tu mets la mains dessus , mais merci de les partager en tout cas :)
Merci à toi !
@@Nettempereur
C'est vrai ça petit coquin va, comment mets-tu la main sur ces images ? T'as un ami ou une amie en haut lieu ? Caché quelquepart dans la bibliothèque nationale ? Ou un haut gradé dans je ne sais quel service d'information de l'armée ? Tu fais comment ?
@@Heimrik01 il a un abonnement auX archives de l'INA je pense.
In Bir Hakeim, 1942, 3,700 french heteroclit soldiers stopped the 30,000 strong force of Rommel's Panzers , stukas and 88 mm artillerie during about 9 days , and escaped without heavy losses to rejoin British troops which then were ready to defeat the desert Fox !
The "halt order", which only concerned Von Rundsteht's armored spearhead, is used to lie by omission. Like the attacks on the perimeter had stopped.
They never did.
Another ridiculous explanation, Hitler would have wanted to make peace with the U.K., and let the british escape for that reason.
Which makes no sense.
Those ridiculous explanations aside: The Heer's Chief of Staff war Diary states that Von Rundsteht reported 50% of his tanks had been put out of action.
Also, the french had entirely flooded the area around Dunkirk. The city, is ruins, was stubbornly defended. Despite being hammered day and night by artillery and aircraft, the defenders, at 80% french ( 100% during the last 3 days ) held fast. The germans couldn't break through.
Nolan made a movie about british ww2 propaganda. Nearly eighty years after the events, that's as lame as one can get. Not even talking about the technical aspects.
+Mc Puff Von Rundsteht had reported to Hitler that 50% of his tanks had been put out of order.
The request for the halt came from the bottom up, not the other way around.
The french had entirely flooded the area around Dunkirk ( not the half baked version the netherlands did ), and swamps are quite unsuitable to tanks, while crossfire from french AT guns slaughtered them on roads; Even in the latest parts of the evacuation, the Fort of Les Dunes will prevent tank breakthroughs until it was razed by hundreds of bombers.
The city was in ruins, and in Lille, just a few days before, a rag tag of divisions had blocked and heavily damaged 7 german divisions, 3 of them armoured, and led by Rommel, until they ran out of ammunition.
Lastly, the RAF, which had only sent more or less 5 fighters squadrons out of 76 now had all those based in south east england fighting there, which balanced the numbers of aircraft and reduce the Luftwaffe's efficiency.
Getting the armored spearhead slaughtered in urban warfare might jeopardize the entire campaign, as there were still 60 french divisions with 1200 tanks outside of the pocket to face.
Which had nearly failed with the spearhead advancing too fast, not waiting for the infantry; And without the untimely replacement of Gamelin, and Gort attacking on his own just for the show ( retreating after losing just 6 tanks ), the allied counteroffensive in Arras, both from the south and north, may have isolated it.
But if it is certain that Hitler wanted to ensure his dominance both on the military in german inner politics that they dominated, and at the tactical level on "a bit too eager" commanders, that was just one factor.
That sole explanation you gave is the one favoured by KH Frieser in "blitzkrieg legend". If you're interested by the topic, i advise you to read "1940 myth and reality" by Clive Ponting, "Dunkirk, the patriotic myth" by N. Harman, and "La bataille de Dunkerque" by D Lormier.
If only the british side interests you, "Dunkirk: fight to the last man" from HS Montefiore is quite exhaustive on the subject, while "the miracle of Dunkirk" from W lord is more generalist.
Anyway.
The presentation of the Halt Order as "Hitler wanting to let them go to make peace with GB" is nonsensical, and contradicts the facts. ( and comes from Liddell-Hart, a british historian which has made for himself quite a reputation of unreliability and bias ).
Especially since, when Churchill was making his "never surrender" speech, he was asking Germany through Sweden and Italy, what armistice terms germany was offering.
Germany didn't answer at the time.
i maintain what i wrote: as it is presented, it is a lie.
And that ridiculous presentation of the events, lying by omission, is repeating british war propaganda; the worst of it, actually, as later in the war, the british propaganda machine will only delay or soften information, and never outright lie as they did for Dunkirk ( "the BEF faced heroically the main enemy force", "we were let down by the french" ).
Cheers.
The ''halt'' order is for logistical reasons, they needed to slow down and regroup and let their supply lines catch up to them so they could be fresh for an assault instead of invading at diminished strength and getting beaten.
Suree.... What about if u see about EASTORY video about the 1940 France campaign? Its a FACT that Hitler let the allies ran away to mame piece. Why do u think he insisted in that manner with Churchill?? *WHY DO YOU THINK NO JU 87 DIVED BOMBING THE CONVOYS AT SEA WHEN THEY HAD AIR SUPERIORITY??* Dont be propaganda guy.
By the way, the panzers i,ii where used to encircle enemy troops. These tanks were inferior to somua or char b-1 heavy tanks, it was the panzer granadiers division who made most of the job. At dunkirk the allies were already encircled, and they trenched....in the city... U know is QUITE BAD IDEA TO PUSH IN THE STREETS OF A CITY WITH TANKS!!
@@NickGalaz That theory makes no sense. If that was Hitler's intention, capturing the bulk of the BEF at Dunkirk would have been his best chance to get Britain to negotiate peace terms. Letting the BEF get away largely intact was the worst way to make peace
Few people know what really happened to Dunkirk and what was the role of the French soldiers who allowed the English army to be able to go back to England. The English army would have been destroyed if the French had not protected them. The German generals were the first to recognize the bravery and heroism of the French. While those who do not know the real story of Dunkirk stop saying anything. and who knows the truth about the battle of bir hackeim in Libya where the French army has retained the africa korps of rommel for 14 days to allow montgomery to reorganize its forces.
Examples like these, there are dozens and dozens over the centuries, fed up that some English and American peddling false truths, bullshit lies about our army. Long live the French army, I am proud of you.
Peu de personnes savent ce qui s'est réellement passé à dunkerque et quel a été le rôle des soldats français qui ont permis à l'armée anglaise de pouvoir repartir en angleterre. L'armée anglaise aurait été détruite si les français ne les avaient pas protégé. Les généraux allemands ont été les premiers à reconnaître la bravoure et l'héroisme des français. Alors que ceux qui ne connaissent pas l'histoire réelle de Dunkerque arrêtent de dire n'importe quoi . et qui connait la vérité sur la bataille de bir hackeim en lybie ou l'armée française a retenu l'africa korps de rommel pendant 14 jours afin de permettre à montgomery de réorganiser ses forces.
Des exemples comme ceux là, il y en a des dizaines et des dizaines au fil des siècles, ras le bol que certains anglais et américains qui colportent des contres vérités, des mensonges des conneries sur notre armée. Vive l'armée française, je suis fier de vous.
C'est vrai ce que vous dites puissent des gens serieux et honnetes le croire
De toute facon ce qui est arrivéen 1940 a la France etait prévisible!
Quelques années avant le paysa échappé de peu a la guerre civile
Il fallait attendre 1941 pour enter en guerre contre l'allemagne le temps de s'etre organiser et armer
Et aussi avoir un leader qui entraine son peuple!
Jamais on ne peut imaginer le général De Gaulle aller signer l'armisticea Compiegne en serrant la main d'Hitler!
C'est comme cela que la France aurait surmonté cette épreuve
Le drame c'est d'avoir declarer la guerre a l'Allemagne en suivant l'Angleterre
Elle meme qui n'ayant pas de frontiere terrestre ave l'Allegne c'est servi de la France comme champ de bataille!
C'est a chaque fois pareil quand ses 2 pays font alliance la France est toujours le dindon de la farce
Et en plus toutes les victoires britanniques en europe ont toujours eté gagnées par nos amis anglais avec des colalitions
A travers les siecles rares sont les victoire des seuls britanniques contre les francais
Waterloo est une victoire prusienne pour 95 pour cent des historiens
Quel gachis parce que j'aime beaucoup l'angleterre et son peuple
C'est tres sincere
Peut etre apres tout que c'est nos dirigeants qui sont nuls!
Vichy . the malice .French navy at oran .Opposing the landing in North Africa. And so it goes on. And one last point, would the French have carried on the war if the roles had been reversed at dunkirk. I think not
Bir Hakeim c'est l'esprit de la France en tant qu'idée
I wasn't aware that the French were in Norway, pretty cool stuff.
Merci merci merci mille fois! Je spam le lien de tes vidéos à chaque occasion face à ce qu'on se prend sur la gueule. Continues!
Even the massacre of British prisoners by the SS at Le Paradis village was absent from Nolan's ''Dunkirk''.
3:05 forward, the Schneider 90 m/m gun was later used by the USMC on Guadalcanal to defend Henderson Field. They were modernizations of the 1918 model, with rubber tires.
The new American 105 m/m howitzer was still in too little number to be available.
Beau travail Nettempereur, comme toujours, bravo !
The British over Dunkirk: Look at all the brave warriors that we saved, so gallant, so valiant.
Everybody else: What about the french who fought and died to give the british time to run away?
The British: They can make their own movie.
its done "weekend a zuydcoote"
Should have been defending your own country, hardly anothers fault as it was on french soil..
French soldiers fought like lions and allowed 300.000 British soldiers to go back to England.
Rate of losses among French troops in this period were equivalent to the onesin Verdun,in 1916.Honor and glory to them.
And over 100,000 French soldiers, but that is conveniently forgotten…by the French.
And before that they sat down and did nothing when Poland was bleeding.
@@MIMALECKIPL For good reasons. The French army was not ready. Planes were old, tanks were not properly used and equipped (lack of radio), ammunition stocks were low, etc... The French industry was working hard but France could not be ready before 1941. The issue was also that the USSR had let us down. They signed the non-aggression pact with Hitler, which gave the Nazis free hands to attack Western Europe much sooner than expected. In 1939, there was nothing much the French could have done, unless accepting again crippling human losses. We had already suffered much in WW1 and all our pre-WW2 strategy was to save our soldiers' lives.
I assume you are Pole. You can blame France all you want but we joined the war because Poland was invaded. And we paid a terrible price for it. And you just don't care, I can only read on and on the same criticism, for many years now, particularly from polish guys. We did not owe the Poles anything, Poland did not exist anymore in 1914 and it was recreated thanks to us (again) in 1918. We helped Poland in 1920 against the Bolsheviks. And we lost the war we joined when Poland was attacked in 1939. You don't care what it cost us.
The next war, in Ukraine or in Poland, I have no intention to join in. And many French people think this way too. Macron can say whatever he likes, he is just a moron with 0 credibility and support. The French are not going to bleed again for Macron, von der Leyen or Soros. Next time, we are going to care for our own.
why english documentaries on the battle of dunkirk (and the shit movie of nolan) does not mention the role of the French soldiers who allowed the re-embarkation? the BEF owes a lot to these courageous French soldiers who held the Germans in check 1 against 5 at the end !!!
In the WW1 rap battle produced by the BBC(ruclips.net/video/kCEUZ4rFiac/видео.html), France had no lyrics.
I felt how much Britain and America ignored France. This situation is also in the same context.
On the other hand, I think this is the responsibility of the French.. Information on French efforts in the war, It only exists inside France. In other languages, can not find information about French efforts.
No one can not tell what is invisible. I think this is one of the reasons why French efforts in the war are ignored.
So, I like your efforts to inform French information in English.
I remembered the war video, that was quite crazy too. I agree with your points, France should do more to promote its History, I complain a lot about this. But let's be fair, every nations had access to their own archives of those wars and there were plenty of footage about French troops (you can see many videos of British Pathe on RUclips), they are not lacking any material. Like for Battlefield 1, what would they need from France ? They mostly lack the will to do anything because they just don't care about us. But yes, the French should do more, so I am doing my part ;)
Thanks for this ! great vid. Wow never saw those images out from Norvergian operation !! Impressive ! And Yes Nolan's Dunkirk was a shame, saying nothing about the fierce and heroic defense of the French Army in the Dunkirk pocket (Lille, Boulogne...). Resistance that helped very widely the success of Operation Dynamo
My understanding, having read many books on the subject and having no opinion beforehand was that the French fought very well but were let down by weak political leadership and incompetent geriatric generals who refused modern communication techniques ( and research their lunches ). Belgium’s refusal to let them forward place troops also played a part.
0:45 ah those B1-bis, the tanks that could survive 80 panzer shots and still be capable of shooting back
Useless pile of steel, the most overrated tank of 1940
Dunkirk somehow gives reason to the German propaganda. "The English fought until the last French".
Who's country was it..
Faut vraiment etre anglophobe de base ET ne rien avoir étudié au sujet pour prendre la propagande allemande comme la Vérité révélée...
Hé l'inculte anglophobe, au moment de Dunkerque les anglais se sacrifient a Abbeville pour les beaux yeux des français et plus tard la 51th Highland motorisée se fait capturer parce qu'elle couvrait la retraite des français a pied, au lieu de se sauver plein gaz loin du front.
Just for the honor of the soldiers killed and wounded, WW1 and WW2 in numbers :
WW1 France was not outclassed in fact neither France nor Germany were able to win best evidence both armies dug trenches and germans used 1st toxic gases and flamethrowers coz they were unable to defeat french! the biggest WW1 battle is Verdun a 1 year battle with germans only VS french only and it's germans who flee at the end in 1917.
France had 1.4 million soldiers killed + 4 millions wounded for only 41 millions inhabitants in 1914
in order to understand what it really means, it would be a war for USA nowadays with :
11.2 millions US soldiers killed + 32 millions wounded !!! coz USA = 325 millions people in 2019
More over, WW1 Air forces numbers :
French air force = 51 000 aircrafts
British air force = 45 000 aircrafts
US air force = 850 aircrafts and it's french ones with US Air Force painted on them
In last 1918 battle, french air force rules and on the ground, french army is by far the biggest one and it's french tanks that smash germans and protect allied troops have a look Renault FT17 the 1st MBT of history with a 360 ° shooting turret and fastest that german artillery coz british ones were 2 MPH armoured water tanks with only gun machines on the 2 sides not really a modern tank and germans destroyed them easily.
For WW2 : incompetent leaders coz France focused all money on social from 1936 to 1939 while Germany focused all money and unlimited swiss gold on modern weapons AND only 45 millions french VS 125 millions germans austrians italians + a french nazis coup at the same time in France led by the most loved and admired french marshal at that time the one who defeated Germans in WW1 + RAF who destroyed french navy in north Africa THE SAME WAY japonese did in Pearl Harbour to thank us JUST AFTER Dunkirk 2000 french sailors killed etc
That's why French were completly lost from 1940 to 1942 coz they didn't manage to understand who is the traitor, i mean general De Gaulle was a young and especially unknown general SO 10% followed Marshal Pétain + 10% followed De Gaulle + 80% didn't know which side is right one AND it's not a chance if french resistance and sabotage started in 1942 when USA became allied boss coz french spirit toward british was quite simple to understand : WW2 1st battles were won by french ground troops in Norway and then french saved the whole british army in Dunkirk and to thank us RAF destroyed our navy stationned in north Africa port by surprise so the rest of the french navy still in south of France had only 2 choices :
1) join french empire but we must now escape to germans + italians and once arrived we'll be an easy target for RAF
2) we sink our fleet this way germans won't be able to capture our fleet and french sailors won't be killed by a supposedly british allied !
And guess what, french also saved the 8th british army in north Africa have a look at BIR HAKEIM battle where 3000 french with only 75mm cannons stopped 30000 germans and italians with hundreds of tanks and aircrafts and WITHOUT french the germans would have captured the british and especially gas stocks coz in north Africa germans lost because of out of gas !
Finally, there were 2 landings in 1944, the famous D DAY in Normandy and the other one in south of France where there were more french soldiers that allied soldiers and most french cities were liberated by french army but of course no one talk about this landing coz french army was leading the fight and stopped few times in order to wait us army late on military forecasts !
So please, stop to insult millions of brave soldiers just for a pathetic Bush's government revenge coz France stopped USA in UN security council during 2nd Irak war !
France was not against USA in fact France has tried to get out of a trap coz USA do not know the Arab world i mean only 50 years old of experience with Muslim world !
By comparing, the Muslim world has 1441 years old and France has 1287 years old of experience with them ! And by the way, France was right, USA has never ever found mass destruction weapons AND it's just proove who was the honest one !
kind regards
Honesty International
that was very well said sir ! May I ask where you are from ?
This is the whole truth.
Thanks you bro
Bravo.
Excellente vidéo mon gars où t'as encore trouvé ça ? Merci pour le partage !
Archives de l'ECPAD ;)
Les anglo américains font des film historique et la France fait l histoire
Some figures about the 1940 campaign , French losses 90,000 dead , 250,000 injuried ;
German losses 50,000 dead , 150,000 injuried , 1,000 tanks and 1,400 luftwaffe airplanes destroyed in 45 days ...
Dunkirk the French held there line until the last boat of the britsh left in every way they deserve to be called hero’s.
French army fought valiantly.
Nolan n'est pas Historien , juste un faiseur de films !
I can understand the bitterness towards the UK and it is justified. We must be grateful for our Allies who have helped us out and they don't get a mention, is it the British establishment's fault this is so? I am sure the troops who fought alongside each other did not think that way. Nettempereur, is correct we can think everything stops on June 4th, it does not France does not fall until 25th June. According to Major Ellis another 190,000 were rescued in operation Ariel between 15th to 25th June. The saddest part did Britain do enough to convince the 175,000 French soldiers pulled from both operation dynamo and ariel to fight on against the Germans as only 3,000 troops fought on with DeGaulle. The rest were repatriated back to France it was their choice to fight on or go back, whether we like it or not.
They were repatriated in France by their government to be put back on fight , but too late.
il faut aussi rappeler que ce qui a empêcher Hitler de poursuivre son offensive sur la grande bretagne, c'est que nos pilotes français avait a eux seul bien entamer la force de frappe de l'aviation Hitlérienne, le nombre d'avion abattu par nos pilotes n'est pas anodine...
En effet :) ruclips.net/video/TPOvYrvDv0Q/видео.html
C'est vrai, apparemment la luftwaffe a perdu dans les 1000 appareils durant la campagne de France, qu'ils n'ont donc pas eu le temps de remplacer de suite. Mon grand père a abattu deux Junkers avec sa mitrailleuse de DCA. La RAF a aussi détruit beaucoup d'appareils. Ca a permis aux anglais de ne pas se faire balayer intégralement, bien qu'il semble que de toute manière l'autre moustachu voulait négocier une paix séparée avec les britanniques. Hitler l'a souvent dit, son ennemi à la base, c'est la France.
Avant tout parce qu'il redoutait davantage les soldats français que britanniques.Il le disait d'ailleurs assez souvent!
true heros of dunkirk....... there is a song for the british .... run rabbit run
You are as arrogant as you are stupid. 123,000 French were evacuated to England during Dunkirk and many Brits fought alongside French troops In the Dunkirk perimeter. Without the Dunkirk evacuation France couldn't have been liberated in 1944. Do you mention the efforts of the RAF in the battle? I am not denying the French efforts in Dunkirk, but you deny the British involvement? Shame on you and your anti British propaganda.
@@harrysmith1070 BURP!
Vito Amos typical french response when they don’t have a comeback and you give it to them straight.
@@cpj93070 "Typical french response" : No, I refuse to be put on the same level as him. He might have thought it's funny but we don't all have the same sense of humor. We all know that the Dunkirk retreat would allow the British army to come back four years later to take part into the liberation of France and we are proud to have played in role in that.
Great video of a rare subject, was the footage taken around the Dunkirk area or further south during the fighting on the River Somme?
It was just after the battle of Dunkirk. Please read the description for further details. Thanks for your comment.
On vois quand même qu’à narvik bien équipé et bien entraîné, l’armée Française avais les moyen de vaincre...mais trop peu, trop tard ça aurai pu être la devise des alliés fR/Gb en ce début de guerre.
This is very interesting footage. Why the Discovery Channel, History Channel and other channels about History would never show this I’ll never know.
France has little or even no "soft power" in English-speaking countries. We have a traditional rivalry with the British (English-speaking Canada, Australia and New Zealand would also side with them on that matter). Since 1904, we have been allies and we have prospered together so it makes a kind of funny relationship, best "frienemies" if you want.
Regarding the USA, we have also some disagreements with them regarding geopolitics but it does not put in question our historical friendship. The biggest issue with Americans is that they see any ally as a pawn (not just the French) and it's very difficult to be respected by them if you cannot "put your weight in the balance". The idea of "America First" was not born with Trump, it's a permanent trend of US foreign affairs. They never consider multilateralism. They are the biggest one, so they expect to rule and others to shut up and follow the line. As the French are often barking against that (although too powerless at the moment to oppose it), they do see us as an "untrustworthy ally" (latest example with the way to handle Russia since the invasion of Ukraine). Consequently, the French may not have the best reputation in US media and cultural works. You will watch often more jokes or derogatory statements about us than praise, especially on politics and history. Overall, we have our ups and downs but we remain friends because we have a lot in common. Especially a tendency to stand together when shit really hits the fan (Royal Navy, Wehrmacht, Cuban Missile crisis, 9/11, etc...).
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(Keywords to influence the algorithm. More people need to know what actually took place at Dunkirk.)
Exactly I know they get made fun of alot but the friench army actually put up one hell of a fight in 1940 the reason why they got steamrolled like they did was because they were trying to fight a modern war using the tactics of 1916
what I would give for a film about this battle from the french perspective.
Bonjour Nettempereur ,
Je n'arrive plus à retrouver cette vidéo que vous fîtes , complètement consacrée à Dunkerque . Aurait-elle été enlevée du web?
Merci pour tout votre travail.
Bonjour, merci pour votre soutien ! Je pense que ce n'est pas ma vidéo que vous évoquez, mais celle de mon ami "Le Retour du Cajun".
Voici la vidéo : La Bataille de Dunkerque (1940) - Comment l'armée française a sauvé la Grande-Bretagne.
ruclips.net/video/XaR1BH-yuIA/видео.html
Et la vidéo (avec ma traduction) sur sa chaîne anglophone : Dunkirk 1940 - How the French Army saved GB
ruclips.net/video/w6C5P-AYGdY/видео.html
Ah oui , effectivement, j'ai confondu. Encore merci.
Merci. Grâce à toi j'ai appris qu'on sest battu en Norvege. Une participation française à rajouter à celle de Bir Hakeim Hakeim malheureusement peu contée
Merci. J'ai moi-même traduit deux vidéos sur Bir Hakeim. La liste de mes vidéos sur la 2e GM est dans la description.
ouais avec aussi
la sarre ,
gembloux
montcornet
louvain
la horgne
flavion
dunkerque ..
...
et la politique expansionniste anglo americaine , a ensuite écrit sa propre histoire , sauf
que nous n oublions pas les soldats francais
ils n ont pas demerité..... EUX !
Yes, the truth is historical but not good to say about English. They did not even warn the French army that they would leave without holding their position and therefore, left the French to fend for themselves in front of the Germans. I understand the expression "spinning" better now. Thanks to the sacrifice of the French and their heroism, the English were able to return home in great numbers, and the Germans themselves recognized that they had left Dunkirk a great deal of strength and that their army was diminished. I am proud of our military, and I am proud of the fact that the critics are looking into this rather than denigrating our country’s role in the war.
Hang on leave??? Who's country they leaving from?, france is 4 times bigger than uk, and people sit here slating the brits for not fighting..... It wasnt even there country.. Why didnt every french citizens male or female pick up arms??, where was all frances people from the colonies??..
@@dominique4700 exactly!!! thats why they got there troops back, and who could blame them...
As for "BF1" I never played it myself but it is rather sacrilege that they only have the French Army in the Verdun DLC campaign *only* (that's just ridiculous).
Prisoners got shot .... by both sides. Tis the lottery of capitulation. IMHO, the German forces could have been 'wasted' in their bottle neck at the Ardennes. I am not sure on this, but I recall that the combined allied air forces outnumbered the Luftwaffe. They should have made that menacing traffic jam a god damn turkey shoot. The Maginot mentality cost France (and, ultimately Europe) dearly. C'est la vie.
Back in the 1980s, I read a short story about europe in the 1930s.
An anti N*zi coup took place in Berlin and a Franco German Polish force took on Bolshevik Russia.
Always thought it would make an interesting revisionist film.
They saved thousands of lives...
least we forget...
Here's the story of Rhodesia...
Ans still today with the submarine deal wirh Australia. Many people from Uk and Australia call us as surrender but English saved their ass because they were on an island. They never learnt the free French force after the capitulation who they were still fighting.
I never doubted the fighting ability of the French.
Les soldats auraient pu etre vos arrière grands-père , c'est fou !
C'est le cas de mes deux arrières grands pères
It's so sad to see the use of runners for relaying orders via paper messages I read that the French rarely employed radios this led to delay in response versus the German armies ability to quickly change tactics every panzer was equipped with radios
@Duke_Leto= There was a general mistrust in the French high command about the possibility of communication interceptions by the enemy. This perception permeated throughout the Army, leading to reliance on telephone lines over radios. The result was a much less nimble command structure and a much longer decision loop.
Ernst R. May (an American historian) has documented this in his book “Strange Victory”.
His thesis is that the German high command had intelligence about this weakness in the French command structure and took the calculated risk of a offensive through the Ardennes, betting that the French response would be too slow to be able to catch the Panzers on the vulnerable moment of their breakthrough from the forest. The bet was successful.
In effect, to take a tennis analogy, it amounted to an end-court smash on the line leaving the opponent flat-footed.
The “Blitzkrieg” that followed did not give the French the opportunity to recover from this devastating blow.
think of the British units that had to fight to the end at Dunkirk to make it possible for 150,000 French soldiers to escape. These troops decided they wanted to return via Calais in order to surrender. The brave Kieffer Commando company of 4 Commando were part of the few who decided to continue the fight against the Nazis.
35,000 French troops defended Dunkirk to the end and were eventually captured. I don't see how British troops could break the encirclement of Dunkirk to go to Calais which had already surrendered on May 26, as the battle of Dunkirk just started (May 26 - June 4). I will need you to be more specific please, and please mind chronology in your explanations.
@Nettempereur Exactly. They had to fight on, until the 100,000 UK troops plus 150, 000 French could be saved. The majority of French were returned to Calais. Calais was also held to the end by UK troops after the return of French troops via Calais. The UK 51st Division fought on whilst the French surrendered.
Dynamo operation allowed to save 198,000 British troops, 123,000 French troops and 16,800 Belgian troops). I don't know where you found 100k UK and 150k French figures, these are incorrect.
I don't understand how you imply that Allied troops could go back and forth from Calais to Dunkirk as both cities were encircled.
The 51st (Highland) Division did not fight in the Dunkirk Pocket. After Dynamo, it defended the Somme river and then Normandy (in 1940 I mean) alongside the French and they evacuated most of their men from the little harbour of Saint Valery-en-Caux. Some French and British stayed till the end and were forced to surrender (together), including Major-General Fortune (one of the most senior British officers to be taken prisoner in the war).
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Did the alpine regiments know they would be evacuated out of Norway in a panic a few weeks later, by then it was already too late...
We left those frenchies behind. lol
"Good luck with the nazis. Seeya!"
Brigadier my ass. if it was that easy england should have stayed and fought the germans for the war it declared. 4 years later is a bit late and it was only because Russia was closing in on Berlin. otherwise the French free forces would have been associated in a more meaningful way in the d day. degaulle was not informed till the last moment. what a joke...
the german general says after the battle of dunkirk (georg von kuchler) says: despite our overwhelming numerical and material superiority, the french against attacks in several places i do not manage to understand how these soldiers sometimes fighting 1 against 20 find the strength to storming is amazing!
I find in these French soldiers the same ardor as those of Verdun in 1916 we do not penetrate anywhere and suffer terrifying losses in Dunkirk and a defeat for us practically all the British expeditionary force has escaped us because of a few thousand brave French soldiers
who blocked our access to the sea in Dunkirk brings me the evidence that the French soldier and one of the best in the world resisting for 10 days our forces largely superior in number and material the French army has no doubt saved Great Britain from defeat allowing his army to join the English coast
30,000 THOUSAND SOLDIER FRENCH VS 160k German
16 k French soldier dead 160 k German death 1800 tanks destroyed the luftwaffe loses more than 50% of its workforce
french best ratio war win in the world fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_batailles_de_l%27histoire_de_France
french win 15 war vs germany hahahahhaa looser
@@r2o90 It was a joke. Relax. I was more making a statement about the fact that we(the other allies) left them to fend for themselves until we could get around to Anzio and Normandy.
I was not speaking ill against the French.
I am well aware that they have one of the best win/loss ratios in wartime history.
I do not subscribe to the idiotic concept that French people are afraid to fight or suck at war.
You need to chill the fuck out, man.
France was defeated because french officers didn't trust their men, they treated them like kids in school, no autonomy, no rewards... just meat made for battlefields... Being a french soldier with such officiers must have been so frustrating
French would have been our national language if they defeated the british in the 7 years war and napoleon war didn't happen... i would love to speak french i thank them for their efforts and their sacrafices. Viva La France!
If....... but they didn't did they? It''s interesting to note that France has a tendency to loose when fighting against Britain (Crecy/Agincourt/The Armada/Napoleonic sea battles/Waterloo) and win when allies of Britain.
@@davidellis1202 " Dieu et mon droit "...." Honni soit qui mal y pense "...and the " God save the queen " was a french song " Dieu sauve le roi " ( god save the king ...composed by Madame de Brinon for Louis XIV king of France)....unbreakables and lastings victories for losers, don't you think so David ?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_battles_involving_France check this out, you'll see that most of battle between french and english has been won by the first.
@@davidellis1202 Yeah, we lost some fighting but it's to respect the old colony ;)
Mazir Soufik We had the last laugh though when we captured your famous little corporal and you surrendered to us.
There were many brave Frenchmen in 1940. However, their leadership was atrocious, and many of their fellow soldiers fled on rumors at Sedan, starting the whole collapse that required Operation Dynamo. Honor demanded that they protect the rear of their allies who would be able to carry on the war, and they did. Or at least many did. At the end of the evacuation tens of thousands of deserters and malingerers came out of hiding and because they were not officially on the rolls, many took the place of French fighting men who deserved to be evacuated first. Sadly, most evacuated were later surrendered back in France, and of 2,000 recovering wounded and sick men DeGaulle asked to stay and fight with him in the UK, only 200 took him up on his offer.
Bruno TaTa de Gaulle wasnt the legal government at the time. thats the main reason for soldiers refusing to follow him
A narvik pas de bande moltiere au pieds mais des guêtre et des rangers et les meilleurs matériels . Pas comme le gros des troufions malheureusement...les bandes moltieres quelles galères me disais mon grand oncle les allèrent eux avaient des bottes !!
i fought in ww2 in my past life i fought for the french, for my country at the time.
What is that song in the opening?
Just the intro of the French military cinema movies, back in the time.
@@Nettempereur Alright, thanks. Do you know if it has a title or not?
@@numbers8908 I don't know. If you want to find it, if ever it is possible, you'll need to go deep into French military marches and bugler orders (wake up, present arms, etc...).
@@Nettempereur It's been a year, but I have it! ruclips.net/video/sKUEXdWV-gE/видео.htmlsi=pD7m02WDctDSI9aV&t=16 Au Drapeau
Vive la France!
Why spend time discussing the "Polar Midnight" without giving the DATE? Strange footage here...
The landing in Bjerkvik occured on May 13th, 1940. So they were talking about the night between May 12th and 13th.
There were no "German blockhouses" at Bjerkvik. The Germans had abandoned the village and the Allied bombardment only killed civilians.
You're right. It would even appear that there had never been a German in Narvik. You make me the day
@@fredericvolatil8910 I cannot determine, whether you are sarcastic. The majority of the German troops were mountain troops, who felt more confident fighting in the mountains (duh) and were well aware that on the shore they would be sitting ducks for naval bombardment. The Germans also abandoned the town of Narvik when the Allied forces closed in and made a stand in the mountains near the Swedish border. After the Allies had entered the town, the Luftwaffe bombed it and what they did not destroy, the Allies blew up when they evacuated from Narvik. The Norwegian civilians got it from both sides.
Can anyone help me find the name of a BBC documentary that was on bbc2 in the mid 2000s, 2006 would be a guess. It was based on the French prospective of the battle of France and went into detail on French tactics battles and interviewed French soldiers and officers. It’s not a French documentary it’s British and was shown on bbc2. The documentary was a one off program.
The Beeb did a 3 part documentary with a young Benedict Cumberbatch in it which had some of the French decision makers in it , there was also an episode of Richard Holmes excellent War Walks series on Dunkirk with interviews featuring British and French survivors .
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I francesi sono stati fatti a Pezzi in 20 giorni dai tedeschi, loro, la linea Maginot ed il contingente Inglese di 200 Mila soldati. Le hanno prese anche dagli Italiani al confine alpino.
Bin en tout cas ce n’était pas si facile pour les boches/ in jedem Fall war’s fürs unsere Erzfeinde nicht so einfach
Les francais ne se sont pas MAL battu, mais après le franchissement de la meuse, ils perdent le tempo opérationnel.
Et au moment clés, les faiblesses structurelles explosent au plein jour
Complete shambles.
C'est grâce à la résistance des
30 000 soldats français et au plan de l'amiral Ramsey que les anglais ont pu rembarquer.
I think the role of French is cruelly underrated in history and I thank
You for this video, yet I don’t think we can blame Nolan for that.
His subject was not the battle but the evacuation, and he showed and told that it was the French who were holding.
Moreover (spoiler) the death of the young French is kind of a symbol for their sacrifice.
We can think about the first scene AND all the scenes where they tell the French are holding, plus at the end the general who says he stays for the French.
I think The movie did justice to the French involvement.
I think the character of the general is based on General Victor Fortune who was captured at Saint-Valery-En-Caux with his brave 51st Highlanders Division, while fighting with their French comrades in arms after Dunkirk.
The general could have chosen to be evacuated with his men. Instead he and his troops stayed behind.
General De Gaulle retold how he was so moved by General Fortune's noble choice that it was one of the factors in his decision to pursue the war beside the British.
American author Robert Carse who was on the Atlantic convoys in WW2, has written in 1965 "Dunkerque" where he told in length of the sacrifice of French General Beaufrere and his 40,000 men who were captured by the nazis, after holding the perimeter until the evacuation was completed.
An extraordinary coincidence which is truly premonitory : the last issue of the French magazine Match (''Paris-Match'' after the war) featuring the picture of a French marine on the cover, bears the date June 6th 1940 ! You can see it at the Bibliotheque Nationale in Paris.
@@Charlesputnam-bn9zy ive seen that documentary, they had a few vickers machine guns and first time using the boys anti tank rifle, which they found to their horror bounced of the panzer 3...i cant remember the name of the documentary but it a very good watch, also i think there was a brummie mates machine gun platoon in with them aswell...
Nolan n'a pas fait un film sur les Français , il ne fallait à aucun moment s'attendre à voir nos ancetres se battre vaillament là bas.Mais , qui d'autre que lui , dans un film destiné à raconter une histoire centrée sur de jeunes Tommies , a montré que les seuls à se battre , à ne pas fuir , ont été les Français ? Qui ?
un week-end a zuydcoote a suffit à me passer la frustration
@CONTE Raphaël Au moins il y a du monde sur la plage mdr
The French army was also pretty diverse they had North and subsaharan Africans in their ranks. Their foreign Legion included both Europeans north Americans and Asians
I did not see any pieces of the Dunkirk operation in this doc. It is all about France and the Narvik operation that went quite well for the Allieds.
Please, next time, do read the video description fully : Here are some actual footage of the French Army fighting in France in June 1940 (Fall Rot), after the evacuation of Dunkirk. And also combats in Norway in May 1940.