Biggest irony is that it describes Ted and his mindset perfectly, he is ignorant and damn proud of it, he admits that he doesn't know much about Islamic religion or about the Middle East but neithertheless claims that Middle Eastern people are all crazy Voodoo people and Freedom hating monsters (despite admiting that he's never met an actual Muslim), and says that if he was the President he would have nuked Iraq and Afghanistan with all the people in them. He claims that he's not sure that moderate Muslims actually exist since he "doesn't see them anywhere", while again admiting that he's never met an actual Muslim in person. Literally all he would have had to do to see whether moderate Muslims exist or not would have been to just go to a Muslim community in the US and talk to some people down there, or do a quick research on the net about all the Muslim organizations that stand for freedom and human rights and against radicalism. But no, it's easier to be ignorant and bigoted, while calling for the literal obliteration of billions of innocent men, women and children, just because they come from the same country as people who have done evil things , so then they must be automatically all evil. And that's not the only instance were he thinks like that. He doesn't even make a minimal effort to even try to understand people who have different opinions from him, everyone who's even slightly to the left of the great and wise Ted, is automatically a "whiny sheltered sissy" or some other apelative like that. Says the great and brave Ted Nugent who shat his pants to escape the draft during Vietnam. And just to make it clear I wouldn't have had anything against him dodging the draft if he was at least honest in his beliefs and his convictions. But being all "America the Brave" and constantly supporting neocon warmongering foreign policy, while he himself wouldn't go to fight when it was his turn, just shows that he's a hypocrite and a chickenhawk who just acts tough. I do enjoy a big part of his music, but the guy's an asshole and you can't change my mind on it.
@@reggiekrager5411 Sure your mind can be changed on it. The draft story is false and all he has said about Islam is that there is not a moderate version of an organization with a modis operandi that says you are to join it or be killed. Hell, there might be moderate Muslims even. I love Iman, Bowie's widow but she is not religious. Plus those who follow Islam that are not extremist are cute and fine I guess but they are not following what the Koran demands of them...unless someone is lying about their motives. I would love to hear how he thinks all of those people should be killed. I for one have never heard him say that or seen any documentation of it. There plenty of documentation to what and how people who follow Islam operate and live their lives and demand of others. I hope you can understand with so much manipulation of the mainstream media that it is near impossible to get accurate representation on just about anyone on about anything.
dhunley1 also it's one thing to kill if you're starving but when you can go to the store and get any meat you want. What's the fucking point in killing an animal.
Leonard Shelby, The point is to not support factory farming. Why support the unnecessary suffering of animals when you can humanly kill one yourself? Not to mention all the chemicals they're pumping into factory farmed animals... NO THANKS.
dhunley1 shot one bird in my life and chopped down one tree. Both gave me basically the same feeling. Bird felt worse but the tree was small haha. Will never do it again unless I use every part of it. Real spiritual moment
I think that Nugent is a nutjob, personally. However, this is why Rogan is better than most shows...he's not living in an echo chamber where every guest has the same values.
"But he never presses his guest on their shitty opinions" Have you seen the Candance Owens climate change debate? He made her look like an idiot, just by letting her talk. He doesn't necessarily have to press that hard to showcase his guests' brain farts. The audience aren't all retarded, we can follow and put 2 and 2 together.
I’ve heard both of his ranches are ecological paradises. I read that his Michigan property is some of the best if not the best marsh land in the state. For those who are commenting how surprised they are about this podcast. That’s mainly because the PC media has been lying & demonizing him for years. I actually envy his life style and ability. Maybe the greatest conservationist of all time. When the supermarkets are empty or if the economy collapses, he won’t miss a beat. You have to respect that!
@@tyler1671You can produce more calories growing plants rather than cattle per hectare. Most of the world's deforestation is used to clear land for cattle grazing . Also most of the world's grains are used to feed food animals . Bro science isn't science .
@@shadowthehedgehog4737 Yeah but a vegan diet is still far, far better for the environment than 99% of omnivorous ones. I see his point about sustainable hunting and stuff but you cannot use that as a justification for eating meat from shops and stuff, as many people do.
soy is produced predominantly to feed cattle in the usa and around the world, i'm not sure what joe is talking about, this is a biased point of view that doesn't keep into account all the side effect of industrial meet producing, that goes beyond the argument of vegan non vegan without even mentioning all the science that shows the armful effect on humans. meet even when consumed in a diet should never exceed once a week or less and should be hunted in the wild, on that we agree but to distort such notion to villifie veganism, it's pure ignorance.
FrankValchiria clearly you guys don't farm or work on a farm if you think soybean farming hasn't killed alot of animals... look up monsanto and killex ready.
Exactly. And, we can transition to aeroponics, hydroponics or any kind of indoor vertical farming and eliminate the need for pesticides since it is an enclosed area. 90% of water can be reduced with vertical farming, need for less fertilizer, etc. All without killing animals. Meat eating only continues out of brutality.
Jason Brisco do you not comprehend what he just explain? He just explained to you that soybean farming kills far more animals during Harvest due to the vast majority of soybean and other grains and crops that go to feed livestock. You have the audacity to say that someone else doesn't understand when you don't even have a basic grip on what anyone is having a conversation about in the first place
yes and I'm you telling you that soy it's not produced to feed those harmful vegetarians but 800 millions cattle a year that get slaughtered for a burger. check fact please. ((back in the day in 99 i worked on cargo ships, we went all around the world to load soy to feed animals , it was the first time i understood the implications of the meat market.) for me you can eat whatever you want but as humans there must be a moment where we understand that certain industrial productions are unsustainable. i understand quite well what they are saying, it's just a biased argumentation, meat hunting is not the norm with which people get their meat, it's a trend. you are welcome to fact check me anytime.
95% of all soybeans are GMO which means they have glyphosate in it which makes it even more cancer causing plus it's highly processed oil which is highly inflammatory to the body along with all other seed oils is one main reason why vegans die of heart attacks. Google do grains cause heart attacks?
no further west my guess is that factory farming kills far more than a few small game animals that get into the fields but, if those fields weren't farmed on such massive scale, say a small community garden than the small game death would be minimized even more. If its in a green house you don't even have to worry about other animals eating your harvest. I think of it this way a slaughter house solely exists to kill animals do you think those farmers are walking around their field killing things all day? Ted Nugent is just trying to defend his point with a generalization.
A plant based diet overall causes the least amount of harm environmentally and directly to animals. 60% of our grain goes to feeding livestock so by eating meat you're also contributing to the incidental deaths of pest animals and rodents more than vegans. There are 15 billion cows on this planet, think about the resources required just to keep them all alive so we can eat them. We can't all be hunters, we're talking about the average Joe living in modern day society.
omnivores always forget that we farm more vegetation to feed livestock than we would if everyone were vegan - his argument that vegans kill more than those that eat meat is simply wrong. P.s. I'm not a vegan so chill out
Have you ever seen a soy bean field? You may be right for MOST corn, but in the Midwest farmers often rotate between corn and beans. You can’t reasonably grow the same crop every year. Soy beans are in nearly EVERYTHING, that’s why they grow it just as often as corn feed.
@@glockwidstik No, they grow soy beans b/c they can fix atmospheric nitrogen and restore it to the soil. It's a fertilizing process. That said, corn scavenges so much nitrogen from the soil farmers still have to fertilize the sh*t out of their soil to grow corn. The soybeans ameliorate this a bit.
@@brianjacob8728 Buddy, are you suggesting farmers in the US who grow soy beans Bi-annually, are doing so for the atmosphere? Opposed to large food manufacturing companies? I am not sure if you ever spoke to a farmer once in reality.
PJ Rivera Complete bullshit regarding trophy hunts...If they want to conserve, they can donate the money directly to conservation without any killing at all.. Hunting is for fucking pussies too terrified of a true challenge.. Real men climb into rings...
o0ericj0o Or you could show mercy and stop the suffering by going vegetarian or vegan.. After 42 years of eating meat, I did and never looked back.. I didn't believe I could do it and it took some time to lose my "meat obsession".. Have no desire now for meat at all and have never felt better or been healthier..
PJ Rivera Again.. Why do they need to trophy hunt? They can do all conservation by donatng money directly and not killing any animals at all.. Or why not donate directly to the anti-poaching patrols.. Or better yet, join the anti-poaching patrols?? But joining the patrols takes guts and they have none
Turd Nugent is a psychpath and also a HUGE LIAR. He spits shit out as if they're facts yet it's mostly ALL BULL SHIT!! Guess why Rocco has digestive problems??????????? MEAT!!!
Story Time with Coz you know the smell of fresh cut grass that's the grass warning the other grass of danger when plants gets eaten it relases poison to try and kill... And animals don't cry or beg because they don't speak.. Also if you were a deer would you rather be shot and die instantly or be slowly be stalked by wolves be chased until they get you and then slowly eaten alive?
So what do the dumb dumb vegans think the percent of soy grown for livestock would be if it's around 90% now, after they converted the world to veganism? How would they prevent the wholesale destruction of wildlife and habitat then. The point is vegans are hypocrites, animals die in the making of their food too.
@Macavity so if white tail deer overpopulate we should let them die of disease and starvation? Or if wild boar overpopulate we should let them kill all ground nesting birds, turtles, frogs, snakes etc? We should just let them drive said animal populations to extinction because you don’t understand what conservation is? Ok bro
No he doesn't he makes a great point here. Yes I support gun rights. Signed a "liberal". You can live your life by not identifying on who you voted for in the last election.
It is equally delusion to assume, as many anti-meat people are, that the video clips they see from a select few farms of animals being abused represents all factors farms which in turn represent all farms... The real issue is that that side bases their argument on the idea that killing animals is immoral therefore, from their perspective, hunting and factory farms are the same. So there actually is value in emphasizing the fact that their arguments foundation, because you really can't discuss the any distinctions till that point is agreed upon.
I respect people choosing to hunt and eat meat or whatever, but his theory that growing plants kills more is nonsense. Most crops are fed to livestock. The US could feed the whole world with the amount of crops we grow, yet we feed it to livestock to produce less food. And it's incredibly wasteful and polluting. Yes factory farming for both animals and crops is not good, but eating only the plants is certainly an improvement.
DomSchu So what do the dumb dumb vegans think the percent of soy grown for livestock would be if it's around 90% now, after they converted the world to veganism? How would they prevent the wholesale destruction of wildlife and habitat then. The point is vegans are hypocrites, animals die in the making of their food too.
sofa plastic there are ten times as many people as beef cattle in the US, and 9 billion chickens (doesn't take much to feed and house a chicken)...I would guess you would see very little reduction in industrialized farm land if you had to feed the population with only crops.
if ted wants to be real, and cared about animals like he claims, he would protest animal cruelty along with his promoting wild huntin. He would protest pigeon shoots, and bull fights and rodeo and other pointless animal cruelty.
TigerShark....He also sells "canned hunts" with tamed animals on his land which is pathetically unethical. The "wild boar" and whitetails literally walk up within 20 yards of people.
Ted is a convincing speaker, but often full of shit. For instance, the biggest threat to soybean farmers are soybean aphids, bean leaf beetles, Japanese beetles and spider mites. Not bunnies, squirrels, turtles, frogs, etc.
I guess I'm the only veggie in existence whose objections with meat don't really have to do with death. It's more about the shit life full of pain and sickness most animals raised in an industrialized agricultural setting lead. I don't really know anyone who hunts, but if I did I don't think I'd object to eating meat from an animal they shot in the wild. I dunno though.
Well obviously you don’t understand the dynamics of agriculture and sustained living, they say ignorance is bliss so you should the happiest person on earth.
I watched a farmer plowing his field the other day. It looked like he had buried an entire zoo every possible animal and living thing was running for their lives!
Hard to believe a compassionate human being somehow came from the genes of this barbaric lunatic. He also forgot that 70% of crops are grown to feed livestock, which means more combine casualties happen when growing food to feed the animals grown for human consumption. There's also a huge difference between hunting and accidentally harming animals in a corn/ soy field, It's called intention.
gym shoe I forget inadvertently hitting an animal is the same thing as intentionally slitting a throat of an innocent animal, by the way, 56 billion animals are massacres intentionally every year, far surpassing the estimated numbers for accidental deaths
Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 the point is harm reduction, while it’s impossible to eliminate harm completely, it is possible to minimize it as much as practical and possible, yes we have to eat and some animals are killled to protect the crops humans consume directly, but more animals are killed to lrotect the crops animals consume that humans intentionally kill. Humans don’t have to eat flesh, in fact it’s the leading driver behind 13/15 leading killers in humans, we shouldn’t be eating animals, it’s a lesson humans refuse to learn
No problem with eating meat, but this argument makes no sense... when animals are farmed.. they have to eat plants, so those small rodents and reptiles are dying anyways. A large majority of grain is farmed to feed livestock.
To feed the 70 billions cows on earth take much more land and grains than ANY amount of vegetarians. (Cows eat So much) 'Research shows that without meat and dairy consumption, global farmland use could be reduced by more than 75% - an area equivalent to the US, China, European Union and Australia combined - and still feed the world. Loss of wild areas to agriculture is the leading cause of the current mass extinction of wildlife.' - The Guardian 2018
@@MyBeautifulDarkTwistedFantasy6 it's the English way I think it's actually a Irish name I'm half Irish half Italian I don't like personally I prefer my middle name Jason lol
Both Ted and Joe failed to make a single valid point in favor of hunting throughout this entire video. They set up a silly strawman where apparently the entire vegan position is about not causing any harm whatsoever, then knock it down with an appeal to futility fallacy. Veganism isn't about not causing any harm whatsoever to animals, it's about giving the lives of all sentient beings some degree of moral consideration. Every point arguement Ted made in favor of hunting animals could also be made in favor of hunting humans. Someone could use the same appeal to futility he made to argue that since we hit and kill people with cars on the road all the time, we may as well be okay with actively hunting them. It could even be argued that since humans cause the most environmental destruction of any animal, hunting them and reducing their numbers would actually be good for the environment. Everyone is able to see the inherent immorality of that idea, and yet somehow they find the exact same arguement compelling when it's about non human animals. Spraying pesticides on plants we *need* for survival is not at all morally analogous to going out and killing a deer just because you want deer jerky. No one in our society actually needs to hunt to have food, it's a luxury pastime for those wealthy enough to blow the time and money on it.
D B what do the Unuits or the Saami have to do with the lifestyles of western societies? If the only source of calories you have to survive on is animals, that's one thing, but when you live in a society with ample supplies of cheap plant based nutrition, the only reason you have left to eat animal products is that you just want to. That being said, unethical practices should be discouraged wherever they are. The fact that that some people live in places where they need to kill and eat animals to survive isn't reason to view killing and eating animals as moral, it's reason not to live in those places to begin with.
D B should any practice be acceptable as long as it's "traditional"? If a society has a tradition of human sacrifice, should we just be okay with that? Also, your claim that we owe animals nothing but a swift death could be claimed of humans as well. How can it be immoral to kill a human swiftly yet also moral to kill a cow swiftly? How can you be "giving them a good life" if that life ends in you needlessly killing them? Also, even if you're an omnivore, you should still be eating fruits and vegetables no matter where you live, so veganism wouldn't actually cause those kind of logostical problems, as they already exist. That aside, the amount of money that would be saved from stopping government subsidies to animal agriculture would likely be more than enough to subsidize cheap fruit shipments.
D B lethal injections are not "swift" or painless, and even if they were, would it not cause you enormous suffering to know that you were about to be killed? When I was talking about the morality of killing, I meant in a scenario where death was not deserved. Obviously a cow can never "deserve" to be executed, so the question remains unanswered. Also, if you have access to fruits and vegetables where you live, good for you, my point didn't apply to you though.
He's not batshit. He's on the spot right about everything he says. The point is you all have never heard or seen anyone in your lives tell the truth about much of anything if anything at all and it sends you all into a tailspin and you all become lost, confused, scared, and full of venomous rage. Good luck with your choices, decisions, views, and perceptions.
@@alexkx8599 You say that and then fail to realise that he is citing a study that was proven wrong and it takes 3 seconds to find out why the study he bases his arguments on is wrong lmao.
Except, you're actually wrong. So the burden of proof is passed to you. Disprove him with something that begins with "According to (insert scientific research)" and not something that starts with "Personally" or "I feel that" or "Murder"
+Dan Sapienza let's see... his whole premise of 'needing to destroy more land' in order to sustain veganism. We already farm MORE than enough vegetables to sustain the entire planet. ALOT of it goes to waste. In fact people eat Vegetables in addition to meat in most cases already anyway! We already have all the resources and farmland to sustain-ably convert to veganism. How about Vertical farming that harms absolutely nothing? Nugent doesn't really acknowledge anything that has been done in the past 30-40 years, He's stuck in the 1960's with his uppity 'alpha' attitude of brute force correctness. DId nugent acknowledge how much farmland is dedicated to grow crops for LIVESTOCK, NO! Alot of corn is harvested towards automobile fuel production on PLENTY of viable land for other crops. instead we use it for ethanol and syrups. IF we reconfigure this broken 'dogmatic' society to actually work sustain-ably and ethically we could already do it. it's because of brain-dead idiots like you who cannot see past your own shadow that we linger on the so called brainwashed idea of the 'only'way of doing things!
Problem being ofcourse that he uses that in combination with citing a study that is plain out wrong, anyone can find out why it's wrong trough a 3 second google search lmao. The study never took into account how much land is used to feed animals (hint it's about 10x more and 80% of grown food is given to animals. It takes 25 kg of vegetable protein to get 1 kg of beef protein for example)
Actually never thought about all the death required to keep animals out of a crop field..... I suppose you'd have to account for this with the extra crops that are used to feed livestock too though. Not sure which would cause the most death.
Not even close Those feed off of grass. A weed that requires way less water to grow. You can't eat grass can you? You literally can't digest those types of plants. They turn it into meat which you can eat
If it's for human consumption? Way more. Because those fields will eventually have to grow bigger and bigger to properly produce enough food plus backups in case one area fails.
Yes but 80% of all food grown goes to the livestock including 45% of corn, 80% of soy etc etc. It takes 25 kg of plant protein to get 1 kg of beef. It takes 10 acres to grow food for 1000 kg of beef compared 1 acre to grow 1000 kg of soy protein. The data is clearly in favour of vegan diets killing less animals no matter how you look at it.
He's a fountain of wisdom like a toilet is a vat of knowledge. He's motor mouth that has had time to perfect his BS bile after countless confrontations.
@@muhammadsteinbergI can't believe people believe his nonsense . The fact meat calorie for calorie is more expensive than any almost any plant food should be indicative of all the input costs . Ted probably thinks his a meat eating environmentalist.
I grew up in Wisconsin and I know/worked for farmers who say they only accidentally kill a half dozen animals a harvest. Way less then a single slaughterhouse in a single day.
Bugs are different than sentient beings. I'm in Wisconsin, TONS of animals. Use traps then release by animal sanctuary's. Did it all the time, at my home we lived next to one so I've seen how many people dropped off animals.
Where do you live? I'd guess somewhere around Arizona, my gf's dad lives there and I know the southwest has a lot of wild hogs. They also have a lot of people who house them and a Pig Rescue Organization.
Biodiesel and ethanol forced farmers to cut out hedge row which is cover for upland birds like quail and pheasant. Illinois used to be populated with both and now we have very little. The CRP program has helped to slowly bring natural prairie grass and habitats back, but it is taking time. Uncle Ted is correct!
lol this point isn't one avoided at all by people who have a clue, and there's a very simple answer that totally debunks it. The basic point he's making is accurate, but where it falls apart is when you ask the question of what animals who are slaughtered are fed? They're fed the same grain vegans eat accept they have to eat a lot more of it. Therefore everything he's saying about the small animals that are killed is multiplied by 10-20 times when your growing for animals about to be slaughtered as opposed to growing it for vegans who eat the grain directly. It's very very simple when you think about it. The arrogance combined with ignorance of these two is so priceless.
The numbers don't matter do they. Animals don't have rights. They aren't applied when the numbers increase. They don't have any. None. That doesn't mean we shouldn't irresponsible with them or abusive. But people who are responsible with them in all manners are not the problem because you are overly sensitive, brainwashed, an alarmist, confused, mislead, misinformed, and invested in telling people a false narrative.
Have you ever seen a soy bean field? Now go read a ingredient list in a grocery store. Nearly every farmer in the Midwest rotate between corn and soy beans. Soy beans are grown everywhere in N. Indiana. He’s 100% right about soy beans. They are nearly in everything, corn field is fed to animals yes, along with soy beans. However, soy beans are different. Grown equally as much as corn feed.
Joe straw mans the vegan argument every time this topic comes up. I’ve never heard any vegan claim that veganism is a perfect way to live, only that it does much less harm which is obviously true.
@@williamburton757 The logic behind that argument is faulty at best. His argument is based on studies that either a) are false or b) based on Australia alone. You don't have to be Einstein, however, to realise, that if what what "Isaac" Nugent says is correct, omnivores would still kill far more than vegans because they consume plants as well as meat. 1+1=2. Furthermore, their meat also consumes plants. 1+1+1=3. It's simply a stupid argument, and I don't know how anyone actually takes it seriously. But if you really want to be fair, check out "There is one argument vegans can't debunk (vegans kill animals too)", a video by Earthling Ed. He actually addresses exactly this video. So be my guest.
You can talk all the crap you want on veganism. But when put side by side which one is healthier for humans. Vegan wins everytime hands down. Not to mention the positive effects on the planet.
[Ted’s son] “I’m just going to walk in there and tell him, I cannot keep hiding anymore” (walks up to Dad) “Dad, I have something uh, to tell you...” [Ted] (thinks to self “No waayy!, is he gonna tell me he’s gay!?! I didn’t see this coming, but it’s ok he’s still my son” [Ted] “It’s ok son, whatever it is, it will always be ok. [Ted’s son] “Well I’m uh...I’m” [Ted] “go ahead son, spit it out, it will be ok I swear” [Ted’s son] “I’m.. I’m... I’M VEGAN!” Ted takes a flaming arrow to his heart and goes into complete shock.
This is one of the few times I fully agree with Ted. I have no problems with vegans, but I get irritated with people who think they’re superior just because they’re vegan.
Notice the slight of hand in comparing wild animal hunting vs industrial monoculture plant crops. If either of these dudes had a shred of integrity they’d be comparing wild vs wild.
I watched this because i like Joe's show and I listen to Ted once in awhile but they both struck on a topic that hurts me to watch it go on in my area. When Ted said the Farmer and ranchers slaughter everything to produce what they may produce, that hit home. My area i live in is constantly being stripped of its natural habit, draws, hedge rows and complete tracks of timber being dozed into piles. My opinion is that the farm subsidies, programs and breaks that are available have put the farmer on government welfare. This in turn (at least around me) is making millionaires out of farmers on our dime. I am on the family farm now, we dont farm anymore but when there was 2 families trying to live off 600 acres with out government subsidies, there was no money to have dirt work done. Now, a majority of farms have their own dozer and track hoe, regardless of a good or poor growing year, as soon as the crops are out the dozers are running.. I can't say that i am hard core environmentalist but having the vision to see that common sense is out the window when it comes to respecting natural habitat. I see what has happened to the deer population in my area, we have very very little quail and zero pheasant along with zero prairie chicken anymore. The pheasant, prairie chicken and quail were highly populated when i was growing up. Its just sad to watch.
Derek St Holmes who sang Stranglehold, Hey Baby, Just what the Doctor Ordered, Dog Eat Dog, and so many more, made Turd Nugent a star. Turd was so jealous of Derek he would sometimes leave Derek singing live performances in the dark while the spotlight was set on himself. What a waste of a human.
In order for farmers to get a good harvest they can’t have animals eating their crops so it’s either loose your crops or kill all the animals that will eat your crops, hence the argument of more animals being killed for tofu rather than one animal for a steak. You got a better argument you go ahead and rebuttal.
I want you to look at pictures of Ted and his image here in this video. Look at his skin and lack of wrinkles and realize that man is 70 years old. His complextion is real good for a man that age.
My only problem with the hunting community at large (I am a hunter as well) is the hypocrisy with predators. Claim to be controlling population then when people attempt to reintroduce natural predators there is an uproar in our community. It’s sad.
I think it's because natural predator will endangered children and maybe some adult. Imagine walking down the street and some wolves maul your children. It's selfish but kinda understandable.
@@zerophantomyt433 Selfish = the tendency to act excessively or solely in a manner that benefits oneself, even if others are disadvantaged. The natural predators (wolves, cougars) are disadvantaged. People used to hunt natural predators so town and cities become safe place which resulted in increase population of prey animals.
Conducting an interview against a minority of people, with the interviewer and interviewee defending the same points is very easy. And they still joke without someone from that minority who has the same degree of influence being present to argue against it. The "common sense" we see particularly in countries where freedom is taken away from people. If you defend the same point of view you are invited, if not, you are canceled
No, they did not listen because they don't have the attention span to focus for more than 15 seconds. Most likely because the synapses in the brain are only partially connecting because of all the shit that is in foods nowadays. Think I'm kidding? HAHA. Do some research and look around. There's a proliferation of DUMB FUCKS beyond epic proportions now.
Ted Nugent sounds great here not so over the top while speaking and as a result this gives people a chance to listen to his side of things / great insight / great Rogan episode as usual 😎
As a vegetarian I'd rather eat hunted meat than factory farmed meat; however any type of farming is going to displace animals and lead to death - but factory farming is going to displace more: the space for the animals themselves and their feed.
There is no right way to kill a Sentient Being that wants to live... Your on the right track about growing your own Vegan foods though as much as possible... It's also far easier to grow plants than to grow animals as well as far less resource intensive which will alway make it easier on the environment... ;-)
I've traveled through blue states that have nearly criminalized hunting; all the thousands of deer in the rest areas, woods and fields by late winter are nothing but skin and bones, millions starving with population collapse during harsh winters, but the animal rights freaks ignore these inconvenient truths. These massively overpopulated deer also wipe out millions of acres of woodland habitat for birds, butterflies, and small mammals, further crippling the environment and allowing invasive species to thrive and take over. The woodland environment is unnatural and sick without predators and since humans have wiped out the wolves and mountain lions guess who better pick up the slack.
There's one thing worth noting is that just because some farmers supplying the public with their produce do such things doesn't mean their aren't any measures done to avoid killing animals. Their a bunch of farmers out there who don't resort to such measures. Are you saying they don't exist??
MY great grandfather and his family came to Oklahoma in the early 1900s and they survived by hunting and fishing . All of my great uncles served in WW2 and never lost their love of hunting and providing food for their families .
@@Johnclancy1973don’t be dense, with one round of 30-06 you could feed a family for a few weeks or use that meat to supplement what you buy and save hella money, it makes perfect sense to hunt lmao
This is SO true! Australia's CSIRO have done the numbers on this too, it's 25 sentient animals killed per kilo of plant based protein, but only 1 animal killed per kilo of animal protein (once "unintentional" kills are included, obviously much less if only direct deaths are counted or in hunting situations as opposed to the farm animals numbers I just gave)
I’m a farmer and i my grandpa and my dad always said never abuse your animals they pay your bills I have a zero abuse policy no whips no prods learn how to deal with them and you can manipulate most of them the way you want!
"Ignorance is acceptable because you can remedy it with knowledge and research. Stupidity is when you guard your ignorance." That's a good quote.
I literally scrolled to the comments and read this at the exact time he said it 😅
Its a good quote if anyone but ted said it. Bruh did you the see the video where joe and ted are talking about drugs?! Teds the biggest hypocrite
Biggest irony is that it describes Ted and his mindset perfectly, he is ignorant and damn proud of it, he admits that he doesn't know much about Islamic religion or about the Middle East but neithertheless claims that Middle Eastern people are all crazy Voodoo people and Freedom hating monsters (despite admiting that he's never met an actual Muslim), and says that if he was the President he would have nuked Iraq and Afghanistan with all the people in them. He claims that he's not sure that moderate Muslims actually exist since he "doesn't see them anywhere", while again admiting that he's never met an actual Muslim in person. Literally all he would have had to do to see whether moderate Muslims exist or not would have been to just go to a Muslim community in the US and talk to some people down there, or do a quick research on the net about all the Muslim organizations that stand for freedom and human rights and against radicalism. But no, it's easier to be ignorant and bigoted, while calling for the literal obliteration of billions of innocent men, women and children, just because they come from the same country as people who have done evil things , so then they must be automatically all evil. And that's not the only instance were he thinks like that. He doesn't even make a minimal effort to even try to understand people who have different opinions from him, everyone who's even slightly to the left of the great and wise Ted, is automatically a "whiny sheltered sissy" or some other apelative like that. Says the great and brave Ted Nugent who shat his pants to escape the draft during Vietnam. And just to make it clear I wouldn't have had anything against him dodging the draft if he was at least honest in his beliefs and his convictions. But being all "America the Brave" and constantly supporting neocon warmongering foreign policy, while he himself wouldn't go to fight when it was his turn, just shows that he's a hypocrite and a chickenhawk who just acts tough. I do enjoy a big part of his music, but the guy's an asshole and you can't change my mind on it.
@@reggiekrager5411 couldn’t have said it better
@@reggiekrager5411 Sure your mind can be changed on it. The draft story is false and all he has said about Islam is that there is not a moderate version of an organization with a modis operandi that says you are to join it or be killed. Hell, there might be moderate Muslims even. I love Iman, Bowie's widow but she is not religious. Plus those who follow Islam that are not extremist are cute and fine I guess but they are not following what the Koran demands of them...unless someone is lying about their motives. I would love to hear how he thinks all of those people should be killed. I for one have never heard him say that or seen any documentation of it. There plenty of documentation to what and how people who follow Islam operate and live their lives and demand of others. I hope you can understand with so much manipulation of the mainstream media that it is near impossible to get accurate representation on just about anyone on about anything.
If you eat meat and are against hunting, you're as hypocritical as it gets.
dhunley1 lot of hunters don't even eat the meat. like my dad told me when I was a kid. if you're gonna kill an animal you better eat it.
Leonard Shelby,
Hunters that do it for sport are scumbags, in my opinion. I totally agree with you/ your dad.
dhunley1 also it's one thing to kill if you're starving but when you can go to the store and get any meat you want. What's the fucking point in killing an animal.
Leonard Shelby,
The point is to not support factory farming. Why support the unnecessary suffering of animals when you can humanly kill one yourself? Not to mention all the chemicals they're pumping into factory farmed animals... NO THANKS.
dhunley1 shot one bird in my life and chopped down one tree. Both gave me basically the same feeling. Bird felt worse but the tree was small haha. Will never do it again unless I use every part of it. Real spiritual moment
I think that Nugent is a nutjob, personally. However, this is why Rogan is better than most shows...he's not living in an echo chamber where every guest has the same values.
Exactly.
Unfortunately his comment section is a massive echo chamber for the right wing propaganda.
"But he never presses his guest on their shitty opinions"
Have you seen the Candance Owens climate change debate? He made her look like an idiot, just by letting her talk. He doesn't necessarily have to press that hard to showcase his guests' brain farts. The audience aren't all retarded, we can follow and put 2 and 2 together.
You're entitled to your opinion. I was just acknowledging the fact that Joe will talk to all kinds of people, which is becoming a rarity these days.
Whackashit what a stupid contradictory comment. Please just erase your account
I’ve heard both of his ranches are ecological paradises. I read that his Michigan property is some of the best if not the best marsh land in the state. For those who are commenting how surprised they are about this podcast. That’s mainly because the PC media has been lying & demonizing him for years. I actually envy his life style and ability. Maybe the greatest conservationist of all time. When the supermarkets are empty or if the economy collapses, he won’t miss a beat. You have to respect that!
I've been to both places and they sre 100% absolutely beautiful sustainable habitats
@@tyler1671You can produce more calories growing plants rather than cattle per hectare.
Most of the world's deforestation is used to clear land for cattle grazing .
Also most of the world's grains are used to feed food animals .
Bro science isn't science .
he's just saying stupid shit tho
😂
For fuck's sake, not this again.
ANIMALS EAT CROPS WHICH HAVE TO BE GROWN.
He's just saying a vegan diet is not a diet without animal death.
@@shadowthehedgehog4737 Yeah but a vegan diet is still far, far better for the environment than 99% of omnivorous ones. I see his point about sustainable hunting and stuff but you cannot use that as a justification for eating meat from shops and stuff, as many people do.
samhailes what is your point?
dumbass
soy is produced predominantly to feed cattle in the usa and around the world, i'm not sure what joe is talking about, this is a biased point of view that doesn't keep into account all the side effect of industrial meet producing, that goes beyond the argument of vegan non vegan without even mentioning all the science that shows the armful effect on humans. meet even when consumed in a diet should never exceed once a week or less and should be hunted in the wild, on that we agree but to distort such notion to villifie veganism, it's pure ignorance.
THESE HICK BASTARDS HAVE NO INTELLIGENCE.
FrankValchiria clearly you guys don't farm or work on a farm if you think soybean farming hasn't killed alot of animals... look up monsanto and killex ready.
Exactly. And, we can transition to aeroponics, hydroponics or any kind of indoor vertical farming and eliminate the need for pesticides since it is an enclosed area. 90% of water can be reduced with vertical farming, need for less fertilizer, etc. All without killing animals. Meat eating only continues out of brutality.
Jason Brisco do you not comprehend what he just explain? He just explained to you that soybean farming kills far more animals during Harvest due to the vast majority of soybean and other grains and crops that go to feed livestock. You have the audacity to say that someone else doesn't understand when you don't even have a basic grip on what anyone is having a conversation about in the first place
yes and I'm you telling you that soy it's not produced to feed those harmful vegetarians but 800 millions cattle a year that get slaughtered for a burger. check fact please. ((back in the day in 99 i worked on cargo ships, we went all around the world to load soy to feed animals , it was the first time i understood the implications of the meat market.) for me you can eat whatever you want but as humans there must be a moment where we understand that certain industrial productions are unsustainable. i understand quite well what they are saying, it's just a biased argumentation, meat hunting is not the norm with which people get their meat, it's a trend. you are welcome to fact check me anytime.
I nearly died when he said " In order to grow tofu " lmao
yeh you're right, most of it is for soybean oil (labeled as vegetable oil)
Lmao anyone who hates vegans or tofu pronounces it to-fu
Well of course he literally didn’t mean that ya dumbass lol
Soy beans is where tofu grows.
95% of all soybeans are GMO which means they have glyphosate in it which makes it even more cancer causing plus it's highly processed oil which is highly inflammatory to the body along with all other seed oils is one main reason why vegans die of heart attacks. Google do grains cause heart attacks?
The slaughter house probably looks a lot worse than the bean fields
which kills more living things in totality? i'm really curious if that's been studied.
no further west my guess is that factory farming kills far more than a few small game animals that get into the fields but, if those fields weren't farmed on such massive scale, say a small community garden than the small game death would be minimized even more. If its in a green house you don't even have to worry about other animals eating your harvest.
I think of it this way a slaughter house solely exists to kill animals do you think those farmers are walking around their field killing things all day? Ted Nugent is just trying to defend his point with a generalization.
no further west yes it has been studied and no it doesnt cost more lives.
@nofurther
Are you serious? Of course slaughter houses kill more animals, since that is the whole purpose.
the point was some vegans are hypocrites
A plant based diet overall causes the least amount of harm environmentally and directly to animals. 60% of our grain goes to feeding livestock so by eating meat you're also contributing to the incidental deaths of pest animals and rodents more than vegans. There are 15 billion cows on this planet, think about the resources required just to keep them all alive so we can eat them. We can't all be hunters, we're talking about the average Joe living in modern day society.
bobby kotata yes I know and a large percentage of all grain and corn production from modern agriculture is used to feed livestock.
“ billions of animals are slaughtered on the highways every day “ - Ted Nugent
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Id say thousands not billions
@@suckmyassyoutube6011 millions.
@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance Millions a year, I'd say probably not a million a day, even including insects
Insects are animals...
@@DzinkyDzink yeah, still way to big a number buddy
Barely mentioned his son.
what he did mention is much less the problem than his son's real problem.
so what
Pepe Roni - Navy Nigga. Yes I can swim...
Peter Collin leftist snowflake trying to find something negative about ted. Chill bro.
His son is boring--he would never ever be seen by anyone except for his famous dad.
omnivores always forget that we farm more vegetation to feed livestock than we would if everyone were vegan - his argument that vegans kill more than those that eat meat is simply wrong. P.s. I'm not a vegan so chill out
Have you ever seen a soy bean field? You may be right for MOST corn, but in the Midwest farmers often rotate between corn and beans. You can’t reasonably grow the same crop every year. Soy beans are in nearly EVERYTHING, that’s why they grow it just as often as corn feed.
@@glockwidstik No, they grow soy beans b/c they can fix atmospheric nitrogen and restore it to the soil. It's a fertilizing process. That said, corn scavenges so much nitrogen from the soil farmers still have to fertilize the sh*t out of their soil to grow corn. The soybeans ameliorate this a bit.
@@brianjacob8728 Buddy, are you suggesting farmers in the US who grow soy beans Bi-annually, are doing so for the atmosphere? Opposed to large food manufacturing companies? I am not sure if you ever spoke to a farmer once in reality.
@@glockwidstik you don't even understand what I'm talking about...
@@brianjacob8728 I can say the same friend.
I think something like 80% of our plant agriculture is farmed to feed livestock, so technically what hes saying is misleading
you're wrong
So technically, you're a bitch
@@goldsilverandiamonds how ?
@@liambelfield3324 everyone in your avatar is a bitch.
@@dgarcia8421 11 months you could've thought of a better comeback 🤣
Idiotic straw manning regarding vegans.
Locrian08 💯
Word. I’m pretty liberal and eat meat. He’s making it seem like all liberal are anti-hunting vegans. So dumb.
@@poisonmarkerz
a lot of them are.
I'm not a hunter, but if you are killing for food, I see no problem with that.
PJ Rivera Complete bullshit regarding trophy hunts...If they want to conserve, they can donate the money directly to conservation without any killing at all.. Hunting is for fucking pussies too terrified of a true challenge.. Real men climb into rings...
o0ericj0o Or you could show mercy and stop the suffering by going vegetarian or vegan.. After 42 years of eating meat, I did and never looked back.. I didn't believe I could do it and it took some time to lose my "meat obsession".. Have no desire now for meat at all and have never felt better or been healthier..
Thats what I told the judge
PJ Rivera Again.. Why do they need to trophy hunt? They can do all conservation by donatng money directly and not killing any animals at all.. Or why not donate directly to the anti-poaching patrols.. Or better yet, join the anti-poaching patrols?? But joining the patrols takes guts and they have none
When was the last time someone got mauled by a bear in the ring?
One question for you Ted:
How do you think they feed those animals?
With mf beans and wheat from MF BEAN FARMS!!!hahaha
And we kill the animals that try to kill “OUR” animals yeah right TED “Totally Enlightened Dumbass”
@Skrompeterto he's really, really dumb (or maybe ignorant is a better word) and really, really self-confident. Classic combination
Combi-Fodder made predominately from a waste by-product of agriculture? That or the pastures...
Who’s they
Who is this Joe guy that Ted is having on his podcast?
Trav in the Box that’s funny
Monty Chronik - Not our fault, your balls haven't dropped yet, kid.
Turd Nugent is a psychpath and also a HUGE LIAR. He spits shit out as if they're facts yet it's mostly ALL BULL SHIT!! Guess why Rocco has digestive problems??????????? MEAT!!!
Joe could kill Ted with his bare hands
that's really cute, if only Ted can't get on THE VIEW to kick out those nags & cows!
Jamie wtf
Benjamin Sørensen 😂
Pull that up jamie.
A farmer might run over a squirrel.... Oh damn better slaughter billions of animals!
Story Time with Coz and grow crops to feed those animals. Logic!
But plants have feelings tho
DomSchu when i see the fear in their eyes and hear them crying and begging for life I'll stop eating all together
Story Time with Coz you know the smell of fresh cut grass that's the grass warning the other grass of danger when plants gets eaten it relases poison to try and kill... And animals don't cry or beg because they don't speak.. Also if you were a deer would you rather be shot and die instantly or be slowly be stalked by wolves be chased until they get you and then slowly eaten alive?
So what do the dumb dumb vegans think the percent of soy grown for livestock would be if it's around 90% now, after they converted the world to veganism? How would they prevent the wholesale destruction of wildlife and habitat then. The point is vegans are hypocrites, animals die in the making of their food too.
Would love to hear more of what Ted has to say about Monsanto.
yes, yes, yes ...hunters, trappers and fisherman are the true conservationists!
@Macavity quite obviously you have no clue
@Macavity Why do you think they aren’t conservationists?
@Macavity so if white tail deer overpopulate we should let them die of disease and starvation? Or if wild boar overpopulate we should let them kill all ground nesting birds, turtles, frogs, snakes etc? We should just let them drive said animal populations to extinction because you don’t understand what conservation is? Ok bro
Is it me or does he whistle his " s" to the point of distraction?
sssssshut up dumbassssssss
Haha
That's just his dentures.
I listen to Ted Nugent and Ric flair interviews while I'm falling asleep for that exact reason, like some weird type of ASMR
With all the money Theo has made, you'd think Theo would fix his whistling teeth.
How the fuck can you be part of that family and not eat meat.
Nugent makes liberals cry!! Love him!!
No he doesn't he makes a great point here. Yes I support gun rights. Signed a "liberal". You can live your life by not identifying on who you voted for in the last election.
I agree with Ted Nugent- but saying that hunting is the same as factory farming is delusion.
Did you not hear what he said...? He said he didn't like it, and is hoping for improvement.
It is equally delusion to assume, as many anti-meat people are, that the video clips they see from a select few farms of animals being abused represents all factors farms which in turn represent all farms...
The real issue is that that side bases their argument on the idea that killing animals is immoral therefore, from their perspective, hunting and factory farms are the same. So there actually is value in emphasizing the fact that their arguments foundation, because you really can't discuss the any distinctions till that point is agreed upon.
You are okay with child labor
I respect people choosing to hunt and eat meat or whatever, but his theory that growing plants kills more is nonsense. Most crops are fed to livestock. The US could feed the whole world with the amount of crops we grow, yet we feed it to livestock to produce less food. And it's incredibly wasteful and polluting. Yes factory farming for both animals and crops is not good, but eating only the plants is certainly an improvement.
DomSchu So what do the dumb dumb vegans think the percent of soy grown for livestock would be if it's around 90% now, after they converted the world to veganism? How would they prevent the wholesale destruction of wildlife and habitat then. The point is vegans are hypocrites, animals die in the making of their food too.
Tess Robertson but you would now need to feed 7.4 billion people with only crops, dumbass.
every field of vegetables used to be pristine wildlife habitat so was the place that you live
lherman22 the landmass used to grow livestock feed could feed the entire population twice, dumbass.
sofa plastic there are ten times as many people as beef cattle in the US, and 9 billion chickens (doesn't take much to feed and house a chicken)...I would guess you would see very little reduction in industrialized farm land if you had to feed the population with only crops.
if ted wants to be real, and cared about animals like he claims, he would protest animal cruelty along with his promoting wild huntin. He would protest pigeon shoots, and bull fights and rodeo and other pointless animal cruelty.
TigerShark....He also sells "canned hunts" with tamed animals on his land which is pathetically unethical. The "wild boar" and whitetails literally walk up within 20 yards of people.
yeah, his spirit of the wild, one with nature line falls flat when the deer is in a pen
yeah hes a real man that abandoned his child for 40 years and never went to see if he was alright, total phony
Ted is a convincing speaker, but often full of shit. For instance, the biggest threat to soybean farmers are soybean aphids, bean leaf beetles, Japanese beetles and spider mites. Not bunnies, squirrels, turtles, frogs, etc.
All the right wing needs is the "convincing speaker" part. They don't give a shit if he is full of shit. Which Nugents pants usually are full of.
I guess I'm the only veggie in existence whose objections with meat don't really have to do with death. It's more about the shit life full of pain and sickness most animals raised in an industrialized agricultural setting lead. I don't really know anyone who hunts, but if I did I don't think I'd object to eating meat from an animal they shot in the wild. I dunno though.
Michael Thomas I think this is a good reason.
You should see the cattle on Mom's farm. An idyllic life, however short.
Fair enough.
Same here brother
M P
Dude, why do you have to expose his false dilemma? He's trying to make a point that he's thinking more than us all. That is so rude.
This is the dumbest argument against veganism I've ever heard LOL
Veganism itself is pretty dumb
mike how is it the dumbest argument against veganism
Well obviously you don’t understand the dynamics of agriculture and sustained living, they say ignorance is bliss so you should the happiest person on earth.
jared Wallace he’s talking about animals being killed, not sustainable farming and agriculture
I watched a farmer plowing his field the other day. It looked like he had buried an entire zoo every possible animal and living thing was running for their lives!
You don't have to eat fucking tofu to be vegan.
Incorrect.
I eat red meat and greens but I also like to add some vegan to my diet so I eat tofu.
budo r ...???
Just as a small sample size
Hard to believe a compassionate human being somehow came from the genes of this barbaric lunatic. He also forgot that 70% of crops are grown to feed livestock, which means more combine casualties happen when growing food to feed the animals grown for human consumption. There's also a huge difference between hunting and accidentally harming animals in a corn/ soy field, It's called intention.
You say 70%, another guy says 90%.
Shut up stupid soyboy.
Mate no animal eats soy it's toxic
gym shoe I forget inadvertently hitting an animal is the same thing as intentionally slitting a throat of an innocent animal, by the way, 56 billion animals are massacres intentionally every year, far surpassing the estimated numbers for accidental deaths
Table-Country pinxing THRYM Firearms 27 the point is harm reduction, while it’s impossible to eliminate harm completely, it is possible to minimize it as much as practical and possible, yes we have to eat and some animals are killled to protect the crops humans consume directly, but more animals are killed to lrotect the crops animals consume that humans intentionally kill. Humans don’t have to eat flesh, in fact it’s the leading driver behind 13/15 leading killers in humans, we shouldn’t be eating animals, it’s a lesson humans refuse to learn
No problem with eating meat, but this argument makes no sense... when animals are farmed.. they have to eat plants, so those small rodents and reptiles are dying anyways. A large majority of grain is farmed to feed livestock.
To feed the 70 billions cows on earth take much more land and grains than ANY amount of vegetarians. (Cows eat So much)
'Research shows that without meat and dairy consumption, global farmland use could be reduced by more than 75% - an area equivalent to the US, China, European Union and Australia combined - and still feed the world. Loss of wild areas to agriculture is the leading cause of the current mass extinction of wildlife.' - The Guardian 2018
Where the hell did you get 70 billion cows from? Everywhere I looks says 1.3 to 1.5 billion cows.
Maybe... but cows taste so great.
I'm reading this while eating a whopper lol
But the general populace doesn’t want the truth.
that’s why we need less people
Great points, but some people go vegan for health reasons too.
I learned all this from an episode of king of the hill.
That episode used to creep me the fuck out.
Got that on box set lol
@@shaunbritton939 my dad‘s name is also Shaun, and you spell it exactly the way he does, which is a very uncommon spelling.
@@MyBeautifulDarkTwistedFantasy6 it's the English way I think it's actually a Irish name I'm half Irish half Italian I don't like personally I prefer my middle name Jason lol
Both Ted and Joe failed to make a single valid point in favor of hunting throughout this entire video. They set up a silly strawman where apparently the entire vegan position is about not causing any harm whatsoever, then knock it down with an appeal to futility fallacy. Veganism isn't about not causing any harm whatsoever to animals, it's about giving the lives of all sentient beings some degree of moral consideration.
Every point arguement Ted made in favor of hunting animals could also be made in favor of hunting humans. Someone could use the same appeal to futility he made to argue that since we hit and kill people with cars on the road all the time, we may as well be okay with actively hunting them. It could even be argued that since humans cause the most environmental destruction of any animal, hunting them and reducing their numbers would actually be good for the environment. Everyone is able to see the inherent immorality of that idea, and yet somehow they find the exact same arguement compelling when it's about non human animals.
Spraying pesticides on plants we *need* for survival is not at all morally analogous to going out and killing a deer just because you want deer jerky. No one in our society actually needs to hunt to have food, it's a luxury pastime for those wealthy enough to blow the time and money on it.
THCRMSNCHN v well said.
D B what do the Unuits or the Saami have to do with the lifestyles of western societies? If the only source of calories you have to survive on is animals, that's one thing, but when you live in a society with ample supplies of cheap plant based nutrition, the only reason you have left to eat animal products is that you just want to. That being said, unethical practices should be discouraged wherever they are. The fact that that some people live in places where they need to kill and eat animals to survive isn't reason to view killing and eating animals as moral, it's reason not to live in those places to begin with.
D B should any practice be acceptable as long as it's "traditional"? If a society has a tradition of human sacrifice, should we just be okay with that? Also, your claim that we owe animals nothing but a swift death could be claimed of humans as well. How can it be immoral to kill a human swiftly yet also moral to kill a cow swiftly? How can you be "giving them a good life" if that life ends in you needlessly killing them?
Also, even if you're an omnivore, you should still be eating fruits and vegetables no matter where you live, so veganism wouldn't actually cause those kind of logostical problems, as they already exist. That aside, the amount of money that would be saved from stopping government subsidies to animal agriculture would likely be more than enough to subsidize cheap fruit shipments.
D B lethal injections are not "swift" or painless, and even if they were, would it not cause you enormous suffering to know that you were about to be killed? When I was talking about the morality of killing, I meant in a scenario where death was not deserved. Obviously a cow can never "deserve" to be executed, so the question remains unanswered. Also, if you have access to fruits and vegetables where you live, good for you, my point didn't apply to you though.
D B here's peer reviewed research on the effects of lethal injections.
journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0040156
LOL nugent is batshit but hes hilarious. could you imagine cracking a beer open with this guy at a campfire? The stories? holy shit.
He's not batshit. He's on the spot right about everything he says. The point is you all have never heard or seen anyone in your lives tell the truth about much of anything if anything at all and it sends you all into a tailspin and you all become lost, confused, scared, and full of venomous rage. Good luck with your choices, decisions, views, and perceptions.
@@alexkx8599 You say that and then fail to realise that he is citing a study that was proven wrong and it takes 3 seconds to find out why the study he bases his arguments on is wrong lmao.
I love Ted's enthusiasm.
I agree with a lot of things he says.
But his enthusiasm is what sells the argument
He's a pedophile who openly admits to sleeping with underage girls. 👍
All I heard was fallacies upon fallacies upon fallacies, factually incorrect affirmations sprinkled with a bit of virtue signaling.
Pedro Teixeira lol you heard wrong
Sounds like a vegan gains viewer, DW tho, im a vegetarian😉
Except, you're actually wrong. So the burden of proof is passed to you. Disprove him with something that begins with "According to (insert scientific research)" and not something that starts with "Personally" or "I feel that" or "Murder"
Is this because he called Mexico a shithole?
+Dan Sapienza let's see... his whole premise of 'needing to destroy more land' in order to sustain veganism. We already farm MORE than enough vegetables to sustain the entire planet. ALOT of it goes to waste. In fact people eat Vegetables in addition to meat in most cases already anyway! We already have all the resources and farmland to sustain-ably convert to veganism. How about Vertical farming that harms absolutely nothing? Nugent doesn't really acknowledge anything that has been done in the past 30-40 years, He's stuck in the 1960's with his uppity 'alpha' attitude of brute force correctness. DId nugent acknowledge how much farmland is dedicated to grow crops for LIVESTOCK, NO! Alot of corn is harvested towards automobile fuel production on PLENTY of viable land for other crops. instead we use it for ethanol and syrups. IF we reconfigure this broken 'dogmatic' society to actually work sustain-ably and ethically we could already do it. it's because of brain-dead idiots like you who cannot see past your own shadow that we linger on the so called brainwashed idea of the 'only'way of doing things!
"Stupidity is when you guard your ignorance" ... that Nuge is a smart feller - you may hate him but hes on point
Smart but not wise.
Well he is pretty stupid.
Problem being ofcourse that he uses that in combination with citing a study that is plain out wrong, anyone can find out why it's wrong trough a 3 second google search lmao. The study never took into account how much land is used to feed animals (hint it's about 10x more and 80% of grown food is given to animals. It takes 25 kg of vegetable protein to get 1 kg of beef protein for example)
i have to adjust my halo just to get in the room. had never heard that one before.
Ted Nugent looks like he has cat scratch fever
Must be why he’s such a carnivore haha
I laughed out loud
Charles T *riff starts*
That's pretty talented, no wonder you're jealous lol.
Actually never thought about all the death required to keep animals out of a crop field..... I suppose you'd have to account for this with the extra crops that are used to feed livestock too though. Not sure which would cause the most death.
Not even close
Those feed off of grass. A weed that requires way less water to grow. You can't eat grass can you? You literally can't digest those types of plants. They turn it into meat which you can eat
If it's for human consumption? Way more. Because those fields will eventually have to grow bigger and bigger to properly produce enough food plus backups in case one area fails.
Yes but 80% of all food grown goes to the livestock including 45% of corn, 80% of soy etc etc. It takes 25 kg of plant protein to get 1 kg of beef. It takes 10 acres to grow food for 1000 kg of beef compared 1 acre to grow 1000 kg of soy protein. The data is clearly in favour of vegan diets killing less animals no matter how you look at it.
Way more crops are fed to livestock than humans. Ted conveniently ignores that lol.
I guess he never did get rid of that cat scratch fever.
Johnhitbox nice bro lmao🤣
Ted might be harsh to some but he's still a fountain of wisdom to those who have the ears to hear it.
Sure wish he’d speak the truth about his two Vietnam deferments.
Thank you! He is an American hero.
He's a fountain of wisdom like a toilet is a vat of knowledge.
He's motor mouth that has had time to perfect his BS bile after countless confrontations.
@@muhammadsteinbergI can't believe people believe his nonsense .
The fact meat calorie for calorie is more expensive than any almost any plant food should be indicative of all the input costs .
Ted probably thinks his a meat eating environmentalist.
He's a known pedophile and racist
Grew up growing big gardens every summer....never killed an animal doing it 🙂
Sideshow The Game Freak commercial farming bro. Slaughterhouses
I grew up in Wisconsin and I know/worked for farmers who say they only accidentally kill a half dozen animals a harvest. Way less then a single slaughterhouse in a single day.
Bugs are different than sentient beings. I'm in Wisconsin, TONS of animals. Use traps then release by animal sanctuary's. Did it all the time, at my home we lived next to one so I've seen how many people dropped off animals.
There's not a sanctuary anywhere near us that's gonna except hogs. This place is over ran with hogs. Like I said, it's where u live.
Where do you live? I'd guess somewhere around Arizona, my gf's dad lives there and I know the southwest has a lot of wild hogs. They also have a lot of people who house them and a Pig Rescue Organization.
Biodiesel and ethanol forced farmers to cut out hedge row which is cover for upland birds like quail and pheasant. Illinois used to be populated with both and now we have very little. The CRP program has helped to slowly bring natural prairie grass and habitats back, but it is taking time. Uncle Ted is correct!
This guy is a basket case
lol this point isn't one avoided at all by people who have a clue, and there's a very simple answer that totally debunks it. The basic point he's making is accurate, but where it falls apart is when you ask the question of what animals who are slaughtered are fed? They're fed the same grain vegans eat accept they have to eat a lot more of it. Therefore everything he's saying about the small animals that are killed is multiplied by 10-20 times when your growing for animals about to be slaughtered as opposed to growing it for vegans who eat the grain directly. It's very very simple when you think about it. The arrogance combined with ignorance of these two is so priceless.
The numbers don't matter do they. Animals don't have rights. They aren't applied when the numbers increase. They don't have any. None. That doesn't mean we shouldn't irresponsible with them or abusive. But people who are responsible with them in all manners are not the problem because you are overly sensitive, brainwashed, an alarmist, confused, mislead, misinformed, and invested in telling people a false narrative.
Have you ever seen a soy bean field? Now go read a ingredient list in a grocery store. Nearly every farmer in the Midwest rotate between corn and soy beans. Soy beans are grown everywhere in N. Indiana. He’s 100% right about soy beans. They are nearly in everything, corn field is fed to animals yes, along with soy beans. However, soy beans are different. Grown equally as much as corn feed.
Joe straw mans the vegan argument every time this topic comes up. I’ve never heard any vegan claim that veganism is a perfect way to live, only that it does much less harm which is obviously true.
It doesn't though. It doesn't do less harm.
@@williamburton757 Yes, it does cause less harm. And significantly so. You have to live in some sort of blissful ignorance to believe otherwise…
@@nikokaapa You have a habit on not actually supporting your opinions with fact, dont you?
@@nikokaapa he actually adresses your dipshit argument in the video so... good luck to you
@@williamburton757 The logic behind that argument is faulty at best. His argument is based on studies that either a) are false or b) based on Australia alone. You don't have to be Einstein, however, to realise, that if what what "Isaac" Nugent says is correct, omnivores would still kill far more than vegans because they consume plants as well as meat. 1+1=2. Furthermore, their meat also consumes plants. 1+1+1=3. It's simply a stupid argument, and I don't know how anyone actually takes it seriously. But if you really want to be fair, check out "There is one argument vegans can't debunk (vegans kill animals too)", a video by Earthling Ed. He actually addresses exactly this video. So be my guest.
he has to adjust his halo just to get in the room! ...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh man this guy is classic
This guy whistles when he talks more than the Gopher in Winnie the Pooh
You can talk all the crap you want on veganism. But when put side by side which one is healthier for humans. Vegan wins everytime hands down. Not to mention the positive effects on the planet.
Nice to see Ted let this fear factor nerd on his show.
[Ted’s son] “I’m just going to walk in there and tell him, I cannot keep hiding anymore” (walks up to Dad) “Dad, I have something uh, to tell you...” [Ted] (thinks to self “No waayy!, is he gonna tell me he’s gay!?! I didn’t see this coming, but it’s ok he’s still my son” [Ted] “It’s ok son, whatever it is, it will always be ok. [Ted’s son] “Well I’m uh...I’m” [Ted] “go ahead son, spit it out, it will be ok I swear” [Ted’s son] “I’m.. I’m... I’M VEGAN!” Ted takes a flaming arrow to his heart and goes into complete shock.
So what? Are you clever typing this out?
Love it. You should be a writer for sure
Hahaha
Gee, Rogan actually learned something here--can you believe it? His ego just met and even stronger ego.
This is one of the few times I fully agree with Ted.
I have no problems with vegans, but I get irritated with people who think they’re superior just because they’re vegan.
How do you know if someone is Vegan? Because they will tell you.....
@@donmcc6573 good one:
Notice the slight of hand in comparing wild animal hunting vs industrial monoculture plant crops. If either of these dudes had a shred of integrity they’d be comparing wild vs wild.
I watched this because i like Joe's show and I listen to Ted once in awhile but they both struck on a topic that hurts me to watch it go on in my area. When Ted said the Farmer and ranchers slaughter everything to produce what they may produce, that hit home. My area i live in is constantly being stripped of its natural habit, draws, hedge rows and complete tracks of timber being dozed into piles. My opinion is that the farm subsidies, programs and breaks that are available have put the farmer on government welfare. This in turn (at least around me) is making millionaires out of farmers on our dime. I am on the family farm now, we dont farm anymore but when there was 2 families trying to live off 600 acres with out government subsidies, there was no money to have dirt work done. Now, a majority of farms have their own dozer and track hoe, regardless of a good or poor growing year, as soon as the crops are out the dozers are running.. I can't say that i am hard core environmentalist but having the vision to see that common sense is out the window when it comes to respecting natural habitat. I see what has happened to the deer population in my area, we have very very little quail and zero pheasant along with zero prairie chicken anymore. The pheasant, prairie chicken and quail were highly populated when i was growing up. Its just sad to watch.
Hunters for the Hungry is a GREAT organization!
Derek St Holmes who sang Stranglehold, Hey Baby, Just what the Doctor Ordered, Dog Eat Dog, and so many more, made Turd Nugent a star.
Turd was so jealous of Derek he would sometimes leave Derek singing live performances in the dark while the spotlight was set on himself. What a waste of a human.
rannanbrakay - Tommy, Jack and Derek would make a great lineup. Great vocals and great writing.
"In order to make tofu, I have to slaughter every animal" "that's a really good point" wow I think this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard on JRE
says the guy who adjusts his halo just to fit in the room lmfao!!!! ted is a dum dum
In order for farmers to get a good harvest they can’t have animals eating their crops so it’s either loose your crops or kill all the animals that will eat your crops, hence the argument of more animals being killed for tofu rather than one animal for a steak. You got a better argument you go ahead and rebuttal.
I hear Ted talking about Organic Farming in a positive way. That is progress. Maybe we can find a common ground even if it's on insane grounds.
Close-minded Ted, believes his own echo chamber... creates his own realities
You projecting again?
Ted nugent's brain is like a dry sponge. He absorbs everything, and retains all that data. And who was that bald guy on his show?.
Idk some cuck that used to be on fear factor
@@hellinterface6721 Who joe????
I want you to look at pictures of Ted and his image here in this video. Look at his skin and lack of wrinkles and realize that man is 70 years old. His complextion is real good for a man that age.
I was thinking the same thing. Bam margera is over 20 years younger and looks like he could be Teds age
My only problem with the hunting community at large (I am a hunter as well) is the hypocrisy with predators. Claim to be controlling population then when people attempt to reintroduce natural predators there is an uproar in our community. It’s sad.
I think it's because natural predator will endangered children and maybe some adult. Imagine walking down the street and some wolves maul your children. It's selfish but kinda understandable.
@@sehalosit's not selfish to prioritize your family and your life over others. Is this hypocrisy? Yes. Selfishness? No. There's a difference.
@@zerophantomyt433 Selfish = the tendency to act excessively or solely in a manner that benefits oneself, even if others are disadvantaged.
The natural predators (wolves, cougars) are disadvantaged. People used to hunt natural predators so town and cities become safe place which resulted in increase population of prey animals.
jamie is a multitasking god
abdul he got an A in multitasking
Jamie doesn't run this channel. A reddit user called MischiefMakersProd is running it. Idk how the ad profits are split though.
I'd love to bowhunt-harvest these guys to make room for the next generation.
Conducting an interview against a minority of people, with the interviewer and interviewee defending the same points is very easy. And they still joke without someone from that minority who has the same degree of influence being present to argue against it.
The "common sense" we see particularly in countries where freedom is taken away from people. If you defend the same point of view you are invited, if not, you are canceled
God he's crazy
What did he say thats crazy? I heard a perfect logical conversation.
AlexanderW People just aren't used to deep conversations. its dismissed as crazy lol.
whats crazy?
You are literally doing what they just talked about in this clip. Guarded ignorance. Stupidity. Did you not just listen to the conversation?
No, they did not listen because they don't have the attention span to focus for more than 15 seconds. Most likely because the synapses in the brain are only partially connecting because of all the shit that is in foods nowadays. Think I'm kidding? HAHA. Do some research and look around. There's a proliferation of DUMB FUCKS beyond epic proportions now.
I think the question shouldn't revolve around loss of life as much as suistaining the ecosystem.
I just don't understand the selfies people take holding dead animals.
I understand them but don't care to see them.
Just like I understand and don't care to see people holding vegetables or fruits.
Ever heard of organic farmng and mosts of the soy products go to animal feed . I'm not against hunting but your comment is so one sided it is a joke
Ted Nugent sounds great here not so over the top while speaking and as a result this gives people a chance to listen to his side of things / great insight / great Rogan episode as usual 😎
I learned about all of the shit ted is taking about in college. Just so everyone knows, not everyone goes to school for gender studies and humanities.
Everyone knows that man. People just got dumb biases.
As a vegetarian I'd rather eat hunted meat than factory farmed meat; however any type of farming is going to displace animals and lead to death - but factory farming is going to displace more: the space for the animals themselves and their feed.
Carnivore or vegan, the only way to really do it right is is grow and/or hunt 100% of what you consume, or know exactly where it comes from.
There is no right way to kill a Sentient Being that wants to live... Your on the right track about growing your own Vegan foods though as much as possible... It's also far easier to grow plants than to grow animals as well as far less resource intensive which will alway make it easier on the environment... ;-)
"The Purest Protein Available To Mankind" 🤔
7:42 I don't know about Billions... Billions?! come on...
Yea that cracked me up. Billions? Everyday?? Bro!
I've traveled through blue states that have nearly criminalized hunting; all the thousands of deer in the rest areas, woods and fields by late winter are nothing but skin and bones, millions starving with population collapse during harsh winters, but the animal rights freaks ignore these inconvenient truths. These massively overpopulated deer also wipe out millions of acres of woodland habitat for birds, butterflies, and small mammals, further crippling the environment and allowing invasive species to thrive and take over. The woodland environment is unnatural and sick without predators and since humans have wiped out the wolves and mountain lions guess who better pick up the slack.
the solution is less people. if we don't reduce ourselves...nature will do it for us.
Sounds like Ted Nugent son grew up with a good example of what not to be....
He has a digestive issues he HAS to be vegan
@@gingerrylant Yeah well, he didn't have to stop hunting. What about that haha
Uncle TED !! Organic means NO MONSANTO !!!!
"... How cute does an animal have to be before you don't kill it?"- John Dutton
There's one thing worth noting is that just because some farmers supplying the public with their produce do such things doesn't mean their aren't any measures done to avoid killing animals. Their a bunch of farmers out there who don't resort to such measures. Are you saying they don't exist??
I reckon he didn't have many options to rebel against his parents lol
MY great grandfather and his family came to Oklahoma in the early 1900s and they survived by hunting and fishing . All of my great uncles served in WW2 and never lost their love of hunting and providing food for their families .
Or they could go to the supermarket....
You are not your grandfather living in the stone ages. Most likely you have more choices to eat than them. What your ancestors did is irrelevant.
Welcome to the Moron Show!
@@Johnclancy1973don’t be dense, with one round of 30-06 you could feed a family for a few weeks or use that meat to supplement what you buy and save hella money, it makes perfect sense to hunt lmao
Don't forget the ocean with surfers
Fun fact. There are 53,000 deers hit by cars in Michigan every year.
This is SO true!
Australia's CSIRO have done the numbers on this too, it's 25 sentient animals killed per kilo of plant based protein, but only 1 animal killed per kilo of animal protein (once "unintentional" kills are included, obviously much less if only direct deaths are counted or in hunting situations as opposed to the farm animals numbers I just gave)
Right, the hunting/trapping/fishing community are “great environmentalists” yet the majority of them vote Republican. FOS!
Because they voted for who they believed would give them more freedom. It has nothing to do with this topic.
Some people are Vegan because they think plant based food is more nutritious not because they don't want to kill squirrels
I’m a farmer and i my grandpa and my dad always said never abuse your animals they pay your bills I have a zero abuse policy no whips no prods learn how to deal with them and you can manipulate most of them the way you want!
Hey Joe, Mike Tyson, who you loves so much, has become a vegan.
@@shaunbritton939 He still is.
Good for him?
And?
As a vegan i can understand and respect what Ted is saying... vegans live in this self righteous delusions of perfection...
Absolute karma: Ted’s son is vegan. Absolutely fucking epic
How did you say F without your comment being removed
Walt Disney's a main reason people have no steeenking idea how natural wilderness works.