This is how humans should interact when they disagree. That's what I love about Joe. He talks to all kinds of people and tries to get where they're coming from.
My best friend is vegan and she is really cool, doesn’t push her beliefs on others, she actually actively tried to get me to order a meal with chicken last time we went out, because she thought I was ordering a salad for her benefit. 😆 Not all vegans are like crazy church people trying to force their religion on you.
I had a normal conversation with one. She'd overheard me say I hadn't hunted deer in 6 years and asked me why? I told her my life had gotten extremely busy right after the last hunt and that my father(my hunting buddy) had a stroke shortly after and we'd both taken a deer that year and that a lot of the meat had went to waste because I was gone working a lot and my father while he was recovering from his stroke had forgotten to give it away like we had decided and that I loved deer meat but I wasn't going to kill one if was going to end up freezer burnt. I asked her why she was vegan? She told me that she was extremely sensitive but was outgrowing it some and was thinking about becoming a vegetarian and then we went back to our other conversations. The fear in the other people's eyes at the table with us could be felt when she asked me that though😂. She wasn't rude,just seemed curious.
Regardless of your opinion on hunting, these guys are a great example of how two people with different opinions can sit and have a civilized conversation with great communication skills and developed emotional intelligence. The world would be a much better place with more of this.
@@KelticTim was just about to say, and I'm not sure if it's a more British thing or not, but I've found that here in England you can have discussions like this and very rarely does it get personal
This is how people are meant to converse, differing opinions but respectful conversation. Kudos to them both. I strongly believe there is hope, but not just hope I think people are starting to work towards a common future.
The problem: how disgusting factory farming is. Russell’s solution: don’t eat meat, Joes solution: acquire meat himself Both great solutions! No need to judge anyone for one solution or another.
The human body does not like meat. Hunting is still murder. That animal didn't want to die. These are my views. Not trying to push my views on others but I felt like sharing. Peace.
@Wyatt Earp slaughter, kill, murder. Whatever word you would like to attach to it. You're still ending the life of a living creature that does not want its life to end.
@@184Dadada Yanking a plant out of the ground or cutting its fruit/seeds from a branch/stem ends its life. I'm sure it didn't want that either. You are assuming the feelings of individual living organisms to suit your personal feelings. Eating the fruit of a plant is eating it's seeds which are ending the life of a potential plant. Stop being hypocritical.
hunting is much like when a dog sees a squirrel gets excited and kills it, then has no idea with it after. There is an adrenaline rush with it, but no hunter is happy that has killed it. Its a sense of sacrifice that it has given just for you to have the opportunity to feed yourself and your family. It is a debt the hunter can never pay, but in the afterlife it will be realized that it was not out of evil.
i believe most hunters will agree with me, in the end yes the thought that youve taken its life is sad, if any hunter has had to hit a doe more than twice knows what i mean its an awful thing. but you will appreciate every single ounce of material body it has given you and in the afterlife the animal may forgive u if you do that
There are many things I don't see in the way Russell does. But he is open, he listens , he thinks he accepts people's differences. I really like the guy and he is very funny.
@@christopher152 Keeping the ecosystem in balance so that the other animals in that ecosystem don't die off because of one species of animal dominating that area.
@@BG_808 Because the question was merely rhetorical. The point of the comment was to point out that you can't just say "Hunting is good as long as you eat the damn thing". Well, you can but it's not true. Also, regarding your point, no, that wouldn't make it "generally" good, only good under very specific circumstances. Quite the opposite. Either way, that was beside my point. Thanks though.
"i've given up judging people I don't agree with because I accept I don't know everything". I think this could be one of the most important things a human can learn?
It's a good lesson if applied correctly or else you'll end up with moral relativism. You don't know everything but that doesn't mean you don't know anything, right?
What about murder or rape tho? There are plenty of things people feel strongly about and can’t just be like “well u just feel differently, I don’t know everything”. And I’m not saying that invalidates the idea or what he’s saying, cause I agree with him, but it only applies to things that aren’t serious enough to matter like that. If there were no government or laws and there was a murderer in your neighborhood, shouldn’t you judge him or even take measures to stop him?
I dont hunt anymore but as a teen and young adult hunting season was about spending the best years of my life hanging with and learning from my dad. Miss that guy.
I think that's almost more of the point of hunting for alot of people is the bond you get with your old man and then what you pass to your son's or daughters.
Russel likes to take the piss from time to time, but in the latter years he's really matured. He fancies himself an intellect, which he most certainly is not, but he's entertaining to listen to.
@@misterkid I respect the fact that he respects other people being interested in something he is personally against, maybe one day politicians and political activists will start to think the same way
Rabidcolombian To be fair, they both probably paid more than 750 dollars in taxes, and neither Joe or Russell actually are racist, bigots, or sexist. Also, Russell didn’t call him “Stinky Joe” Rogan, for example, before this discussion. Translation: That debate and this debate isn’t exactly an apples to apples comparison. Or is that tough for you to figure out?
@@speakingtruths4215 yeah I 100% agree Trump smoked Biden in that debate.. it was like the greatest Granny Smith ever to a rotten Tomato. Spot on man keep speaking truth👍
@masterp@1ne something that you will never get a leftist to understand is, every tax loophole that Millionaire and billionaire use, they themselves could use if they had a job and actually paid taxes, and those laws have been on the books for decades and they aren't laws that Trump had anything to do with, he used the tax code that are in place and perfectly legal.
@@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 I understand that people don't like hunting and there's nothing wrong with that but I get tried of people calling us scumbags and shit like that and he clearly said that he understood
@@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 Joe literally said he understands and respects the decision to not hunt or eat animal products in the very beginning of this discussion. Get off your soap box. Just because everyone isn't dropping everything rn to become vegan doesn't mean it's just ears plugged "lalalalala nanana cant hear you"
@@oakley.130 scumbag! jk lol in my unjudging opinion i think hunting should be reserved as a last resort to survival. Like if you are starving out in the cold with no edible vegitation and no other means of food. We shouldnt have mass farming and killing of animals because a lot of those animals are killed and wasted!!! what a shame. And i LOVE a good burger so this is a sacrifice for me as well that i am willing to take. We live in a self centered world tho where theres no way this would realistically happen unfortunately.
@@530Issa I'd argue that people who eat meat should hunt at least once in their lives. Having to see an animal die, then cut it open and pull its guts out, and then cook and eat it....takes it toll. Its not easy. I eat less meat because of it, and most others would too.
One of the things I love about both of these guy, but especially Russell Brand. He is very good about not interrupting people and really listening to them and respecting their opinions.
Russell Brand is the model that everyone should look into being like. He’s open to conversation and to understand others that he doesn’t agree with. Our society keeps trying to cancel others that they don’t agree with. It’s quite sad.
@@josephjacobs4446 and people like you are the reason wars start. Your assaninity and closed mindedness is saddening. You only want people to see things your way but won't listen to others. Bet your a great friend 🤣
@@killtrump_666 "Mettere a tacere è una semplice conseguenza" (To silence, it's a simple consequence). ~ Benito Mussolini Congratulations on matching the opinion the inventor of fascism had on censorship.
You might just be hanging out with the wrong people. Don't let all the media spin on both sides get you down. There's plenty of good people to talk to.
@@hoobaguy I have people from across the political/social spectrum in my circle of family and friends. I can count on one hand those that I can speak frankly with about differences of opinion. The world finally allowed the media to separate us into camps, and hardly anyone goes beyond regurgitating slogans and reading directly from the templates handed to them by pundits. I hope it gets better one day.
depends on how it's done. those rare animals are specifically selected because they are unable to breed or known targets of poachers. The cost of the hunt is extravagant to the hunter and all meat is donated to the locals. The only think the hunter gets to have is the picture at the end of the hunt usually
If things cant be hunted(wether or not it has the numbers to make hunting it sustainable) then those animals have to depend on other people. And the tragedy of modernity is that savage, primal man cares more about nature than civilized man. The hunter you despise for glory seeking is now in some cases the only reason some animals stick around. We live in a secularized, utilitarian, and materialistic age. We choose starbucks coffee and warm showers over a better world in most of our choices in daily life.
Depends on the nature of the animal man, culling sick and elderly animals is good. Trophy hunters pay a hefty sum for tge privilege, the local government gets the cash the local population gets the food. Poachers killing elephants to cut their heads off so they can powder the ivory for chinese buisnessman ED medicine is another story.
@Caleb M. F nah hes had plenty of guest rude. Some adults are able to disagree and give both sides and move on while still respecting eachother. This should be done 100% of the time unfortunately weve gotten away from this level of communication.
They're far from arguing, not even mildly debating They fundamentally disagree, but neither is trying to convince the other that he's wrong or should change his mind They're simply discussing the ways in which they disagree and getting to understand each other's perspective better Truly great to see
Honestly thats how I've been feeling lately, before I would take up on arms against everyone and would have dozens of threads on comment sections and forums arguing with people of different views. Now, arguments are good as long as they are productive, but most people dont look at themselves with a 3rd person view point and are blind as to what they dont know or could be.
@@nabilyassin1742 You can have strong opinions, but if you are an asshole as well, it don't work out well with other people. I think that strong opinions don't persuade because the people are too passionate, or they're assholes about it. The other person will just dig in and get defensive, and never consider the other person's side. You gotta soft sell, so they don't put their walls up. In this case nobody was soft selling... Russell just conceded. Probably to just keep a good banter going. I'm sure Russell has firm convictions but he's not an asshole, so he just met Rogan half way and said that his points were valid.
same way most democrats won't even consider reading facts that oppose their views. As for vegans, it feels really hypocritical how they can just claim to care about all lives and such but won't listen to billions of people that feel the need for meat or how they think that plants aren't living things. Just because they don't have sad crying eyes, doesn't make plants less alive.
@Cioby hypocritical to not listen to billions of people trying to justify killing billions of animals? is that really hypocritical or are you being dumb?
@Masterpiece GB When I hunt it is never just trophy hunting and no one o know does this.. The ones that just trophy hunting are some from the cities. You take the game, you pray over them. Then you harvest all you can and what's l we ft goes to the dogs. Every animal I kill is one less that is raised and killed in horrible conditions. Also the people that don't eat the animal around here donate it to the poor
Ricky Woods I wonder if Masterpiece GB eats store bought meat? If he/she has ever seen the sick conditions that those type of meat are in they’d stop buying and start hunting and not every hunt do you get something because it takes skill and patience. Some folks will never understand. Have a fantastic day bud
I haven't been big game hunting in over 20 years but I still purchase a hunting and fishing license every year to help support my state's department of natural resources.
@@koenwijnen9186 Maybe when you grow up you will have a better understanding of what your local DNR does and how it works? Or you could just ask your mommy to explain it to you.
@@T.Dubya311 Not everybody lives in America dummy. Im from the Netherlands we have no DNR here. Is there something wrong with you or dont you know theres other countries?
@@koenwijnen9186 As far as I'm concerned there's only one country, genius, and that's the USA. I couldn't care less about the rest of America or your nether regions. Maybe next time you ask a question about someone's comment you should leave out the "WTF" and the "LMAO" so they know your question is legitimate and not just a smart-ass reply.
@@T.Dubya311 Its because even when I dont know what "supplying your state's department of natural resources" means in this context I already know its a dumb reason. Oy vey american boy, love being a wageslave for the tribe? DUmbass thinking America rules the world when its just a handful (((men))) that control you as the good little debtslave you are.
@Davidson 1 asserting that you know anything as an unalterable fact is a recipe for stagnation. If you're wrong about your assertions, but simultaneously cling to them forever, you'll never live in harmony with truth.
Instead we have a dramatically oversensitive outlook on the world and the people and things that inhabit it, people want to go out of their way to get offended, what a time to be alive.
Not much of a conversation. Joe Rogan does his usual fine job of speaking calmly, in monotone, to control the other speaker. And Russell Brand does nothing to share the healthy results of a plant-based diet. And Russell doesn't mention the harm done to one's health eating animal flesh. If he's vegan, his knowledge base is limited, or is it he's throwing softballs so Rogan can promote unhealthy meat consumption? Brand does not represent the vegan community. Does he really need Rogan to explain animal killing?
Yeah like white people having different opinions on african slaves, and still getting along .. it's a beautiful thing when you ignore the unnecessary victims
@@larrymaloney877 You sound like a moron. Especially about Rogan being a "pimp for the meat industry". He clearly says early on in the video that he is disgusted by factory meat production but apparently wanting to eat something other than a plant makes you a shill for megacorporations. You live in a fantasy world. Enjoy your grass though.
@Bule Bolang Exactly, enlightened individuals don’t rage, mob and cancel people they disagree with. We can value the personal decisions people make for themselves. I don’t agree with all of Russel’s views, but how he chooses to live his life for himself is what is right for him. As is our personal choice good for us. We need far more understanding in the world nowadays, not angry mobs.
Russell Brand + Joe Rogan can both listen to ideas they disagree with + be respectful + actually interested to understand the other sides view. The world needs more Joe's + Russell's
Trust me, he didn't think: "oh my brain" or anything. It would have been a bad shot anyway. Very easy to miss or even worse leave an animal running around with no jaw.
2 open minded individuals sharing life stories and feelings, no voice raising, no screaming or crying. Just both accepting eachothers opinions and having a chat
Now the book russell needs is the Holy Bible, so he can accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour before he takes his last breath in his flesh body. He has rejected his True Eternal Father Jesus Christ for to long and has made earthly riches instead of eternal riches. I pray for russel and all the other secular/wordly believing idiots to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour
I always found him to be misunderstood. I'm not suggesting that I fully understand him or anything. But, I've always just felt that he's spent a lot of time being wildly misunderstood. He's a thoughtful, masculine, sensitive, gregarious, feather-ruffling, careful, fuck-it, caring, generous asshole. Somehow he's Joe Rogan's oppsite and complement. **I'd love to listen to a podcast of just these 2 guys, drawimg a debatable topic out of a hat.
@@C_Tizzle He has changed alooooot though recently. He is much more self-aware of his old behaviour. Look at his netflix special, he talks alot about how the way he was wasn't healthy. To no ones surprise alot was because of drugs and alcohol.
He is! I've been following him for a while now, and even where he may seem a little ignorant about a topic, he is clearly very wise in his critical thinking or thought processes. I love his frankness, it's so refreshing 🥛🥛
I’m not a fan of hunting but Rogans explanation makes sense. He’s right that if you’re really hunting older animals you could be saving them from an unpleasant end. Animals in the wild do not die peacefully in their sleep of old age.
Lol no its not, the politicians worst nightmare is actual political revolution. They actually embrace this kind of shit, because it makes people complacent with the current system we have now and casts an illusion of enlightenment based solely on "listening to both sides".
Russell Brand has grown so much over the years. Most do, to some extent, but his journey has been public and while he absolutely drove me nuts years ago, he's now one of my favorite people to listen to and I would just love to have a conversation with him! I completely understand that not everyone can deal with taking a majestic animal's life, and even I had some times where those thoughts went through my head. It's all about respect for nature, and realizing that we have always been a natural member of the food chain. I would never try to talk someone into hunting if they're not comfortable, and I'm glad Russell has realized it's not his place to do the opposite.
@nasser wiz Versus looking at what it is, you take his character and make an assumption against him to dislike him? On top of that, an assumption that has nothing backing it up?
@nasser wiz You're sure he manipulates young females? where did you gather this assuredness? or are you just saying you're sure because, you know, fuck it it's the internet?
@Rob Roy I agree with you from ten minutes of research that Andrews is a racist. And yeah that’s quite true about the dictionary. I don’t know if he does it genuinely or not but sometimes Russel does just spout a bunch of big, overly-unnecessary, words in the middle of his sentences which can be cringey to watch. Still, “dickhead” couldn’t be more of a subjective term lol.
An example: dems propose 2.3 trillion dollar bill and bail outs for democrat run cities, trump tries to find middle ground with 1.6 trillion, which is plenty. Dems refuse. Trump again tries to find common ground by wanting $1200 for every eligible American. Dems refuse. To them it's their way or nothing and this is the problem with the modern day dems and its why so many are leaving them for the repubs. fax only!
You're doing the thing you are talking about. Surely you can at least acknowledge that there are Democrats that have real views that you disagree with that aren't just bad people.
Video made me think of this quote by Bertrand Russell: 'The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.'
Brilliant and so damn true. The problem is that the fools and fanatics do not have the capacity nor the interest in this quote and the feeling and philosophy behind it. Thank you.
Man, you do kill the hunted animal, you feel proud and you feel sorry, and you cry at the same moment. It's the same thing as with the native Indians that used to say "thank you" to the hunted down animal. I can't explain this right away, but it is not an empty moment and it is not a triumph and pride all the way. Pride comes after the struggle. You gonna freeze your ass off 5 times before you will come up to the right place and right time.
The thing I wish joe would have whent into a little more detail with is how it's perfectly okay to have a huge amount empathy for what you are hunting, any hunter worth their salt never wants the animal to suffer. The best hunters and the best marksmen feel the most pride when dropping big game from over 150 yards away and hitting the sweet spot for instant death. No pain, is what every hunter should strive for. Now that being said, I have messed up badly before when I was 11 and I shot a deer in the wrong spot and it wasn't instant death, I had to finish it with a knife and I cried, but we had meat for the winter. From then on I've practiced with a larger and more accurate caliber rifle with a scope that from 150 yards away I can shoot a grouping pattern about the size of the palm of your hand . I plan on making the grouping smaller. So hopefully I won't ever miss the instakill spot again. I also believe that any animal that is dying a long painful death is flooding it's body with adrenaline and other chemicals that make the meat taste no where near as good as when it's instant. Kind of natures way of saying you suck at this, do better next time.
I gained immense respect for Russel Brand during this episode, he let a hunter explain his point of view fully, and then presented his own reasoning in a collected manner.
TheVoluntaryistPilot it doesn’t. That’s rare. That’s the main argument for hunting in Africa but that hardly happens. Most of the meat doesn’t even reach the villages and the ivory in their horns is sold for a fuck load of money and all that money doesn’t go to a village it goes to the people who lead those safari hunting tours.
I love these kind of conversations. If more conversations with non-meat eaters sounded like this there'd be a lot more respect going back & forth. I grew up semi-regional & to have enough food sometimes you *have* to use what's around you but I love Russell being so settled in his decision.
Dale Carnegie talked about that in his book "How To Win Friends and Influence People" Being genuinely interested in the person you're talking with is a good way to make a great impression.
@@jimraynor7788 I have such a hard time doing that. If Im just not interested in what someone is saying I cant pretend to be interested. Not saying I wont listen, but I just have a hard time keeping the conversation going.
@@larrycooper5328 , How will not watching his nonsensical videos exposeJoe Rogan's simpleton views on soil conservation, nutrition, and the USA's health crisis? And, your health is in jeopardy eating the foods silly Joe thinks are important. Will he give you a healthy life back? Are you on daily meds yet? Who in your family is? Where do you suppose Joe got his education? Think about it; his is another venue where self-promoting narcissists have another venue so you can gawk. Can you think of something intelligent to say?
What a great conversation! The fact that these 2 men don't agree, don't change their pov, butt still hear and RESPECT each other gives us all a model of how to converse with people with which we do not agree.
R. Brand interviewed Jordan Peterson, it was an even better example of this. Even when he can't totally "feel" what the other side is experiencing, Brand at least tries to acknowledge that maybe it's because his experience has been different from theirs. That's not to say he will just tolerate people whose positions are indefensible, but generally he is extremely open to honest discussion.
I loved watching it and I consider both Joe and Russell to be intelligent men and they both made great points and I respect them both(I also think that the older he gets, the more Russell Brand is starting to look like the comic book writer Alan Moore). l loved the point Joe made about hunting in an era prior to there being refrigeration as well as the kind of large-scale agriculture that we have now and how hard it was to get food. It's similar to how when the founding fathers of the American revolution wrote the U.S. Constitution, when they wrote it, if you didn't hunt, it meant you didn't EAT. I can respect both sides of the arguments that they were making. I have never gone hunting but I know people who do hunt so I think that one of these days, I might have to try it.
Glen Lehane If you're going to cry about judgement and grandstanding aren't you contributing to the problem? Cause are opinions all the same and self expression. Why is "judging" where some people want to cut off their "free speech" fanaticism? Let me say whatever I want but don't judge me? If the "differing opinions" mean a worse life for you or an attack on your humanity as it so often is with the many hateful ideas in our society, it's not just some inconsequential opinion.
Have you ever hunted DMT on Elk? The Elk becomes the trip and the DMT the trophy...it's quite heavily regulated... by little guys with pointy ears on snowmachines...and lots of rules you can never know.
gym shoe He made a lot of sense and seemed to really soak in Rogan’s stance. This is called not a conversation. Where as Shapiro will come on, speak in rapid fire, make little sense, and repeat his same talking points without learning anything. This is why I respect Russell Brand, he promotes open mindedness, and you can’t deny that.
Toronto Rangers What? Do you even know what the difference is? Dog fighting involves extended periods of extremely violent fighting that will end in a terrible and painful death for the animal. Putting a bullet into the brain or heart of an animal is by far the least painful and fastest death for any animal. Not only that, hunting is used to provide food for people while dog fighting is literally for the dopamine release of watching gore and blood pour out of animals.
@Toronto RangersMy guess is, if those same hunters took two bull elk in full rut and put them in a small arena from which there was no escape, and forced them to gouge and gore themselves until one could no longer stand... the public would want to hang them too. You can do much better.
Rogan is smart enough to not believe religious silliness from 2000 years ago because it doesn’t apply but he needs to relive his Hunter gatherer that is even older then religious silliness. Right
I like Brand so much more after hearing his opinion on things. He has a great way of hearing view points that differ from his, and responds intelligently without getting hysterical. We need more of that in the world.
I don't think there was one that was wrong or right. Russel seem to have a libertarian mind set where it's your life to live not his and joe just stated that hunting costs go to help the environment. It seems like they found common ground and came to an agreement that hunting isn't bad.
I appreciate Russel Brand and Ricky Gervais. They're willing to hear out an argument and then challenge their own beliefs to understand others. A great example to their countrymen.
And russel brand acting 200% less arrogant in interviews because he knows rogan would shove his snowflake head up his own ass if he disrespected him on stream. Brand acted like the true pussy he is in this interview
I like the way Russell Brand's brain works. He can always see both sides of issues. Very open minded but aware that his beliefs/feelings are his own and does not try to impose them on others. He is not self righteous.
@@grayskull1521 No on is perfect, Gary Skull. We all know nothing at birth and will never know everything. The best sort of intelligence is knowing that most decisions we make are based on emotion and our perception. if you learn how to learn then you are on the road. One aspect of this is to be aware that you don't know much and use the strengths of others to get the result for you.
Abigail b I agree. The world would be a better place if we could see other people's views and still do are own work and nothing ended with violence. Don't judge anybody. Have a great day😉🕊🍺☘🇮🇪💷
People love to throw the term "pseudo-intellectual" around. butttttt that's what russell is. He might be less of an ignorant douchebag now though, so progress of a kind I guess
Coming back after the last couple years, videos like these remind me how good the times were before. I hope we can go back to having mundane conversations soon
I love how the media has portrayed Russel Brand as a complete idiot, funny guy but once you did deeper you find possibly one of the most interesting and intelligent people on the planet who hasn’t let fame and money get to his head and is very willing to learn and contribute to intelligent conversation.
The NotMangaMan, most of the media from 2007-2012 from what I remembered always made fun of him because of how he dressed and he is a comedian so he isn’t academically intelligent, I was young at the time so I might perceived it wrong but that’s what I remember
we need more people like russel. i respect his opinions because he respects ours. great man , funny human , and good all around person , i loved this interview joe !
@MorbidManMusic What are you even babbling about? He said amen, a word which means "confirm" or "truth" in Hebrew. Injecting religion into someone's statement to discredit their intelligence doesn't make you a genius either ....
Its really sad to see people like you@MorbidManMusic. You should truly read that quote 100 times because it will amount to more than you will if you don't.
i love how eloquent russel brand is. but what i love is his perspective that people with contrarian thoughts should not impose on others who may not agree with them.
While also slightly making fun of things some vegans do like rambling on about their view points and beliefs because they someone gave them an in like the topic of hunting. He’s a smart dude.
Russell has become incredibly insightful and aware of himself. His ability to be so open minded to different viewpoints and his own hangups is impressive as well.
I was actually surprised at 7:00 onward. I used to want to punch this guy everytime I heard his voice... I mean, his voice still makes me want to punch him, but his words make more sense now.
Wow... I'm floored by Russell Brand being willing to listen to another side, and not loosing his mind. Everyone on both sides of the fence should take notes. I am a hunter, and have been my entire life, and my freezers are always full. I have had numerous conversations with anti hunters over the years that went south within minutes, if not seconds, because the anti zealot lost their minds. I'm not forcing my lifestyle on you, why would they do it to "us" to include death threats. Thank you Russell Brand for being the voice of reason on that side of the fence. I am so happy to have watched this.
yes, I'm sure you for sure are not the reason the "numerous conversations with anti-hunters over the years that went south within minutes"... as soon as they said something I bet your like "how dare you impede on my rights! 'merica trump yeehaw" or closet gay dudes like guns
Yeah, depends on how big the kill is though. If its a big one and all you eat is the meat you can probably make 5-6 months out of it if you eat other stuff with it so you can have smaller portions of the meat at a time you can make it even longer than 8. Rogans interview with glenn villenueve is good on this he talks a lot about it
Liam Foster If you’re responding to the other guy, majority of Joe Rohan’s diet is elk. He has a podcast on RUclips that he says he’s on a all meat diet and Elk is his prefer meat. He’s occasionally have cheat day where he eat a piece of candy or other food but primarily he eat elk. But if he’s rations it to last 8 months, he must not eat big portion and is very controlling of the ounces he eats.
I've actually gotten a small whitetail deer a couple years ago and there was enough meat (if properly butchered) to fill up a freezer and deep freezer chest. Whitetail populations skyrocket rapidly in a lot of rural areas so it's necessary to keep their population in check
The thing to appreciate about Russel here is that he's capable of articulating and understanding this opposing viewpoint. He's not strawmanning anyone, he's not trying to win an argument. He's expressing his own distaste for hunting, but simultaneously accepting the reasoning behind why people like Joe hunt. This video is a great example of tolerance. The antithesis of bigotry.
It really depends on the argument with him, he does often fall into the pit of assuming what people think rather than listening to what they say but he performed pretty well in this
It's not respectable to talk about murdering other animals. You wouldn't say that about a Nazi: ""oh, well at least they're talking about their evil, murderous ways with prose and decorum!" Fuck off. It's evil. Money sent from murder is irrelevant. It's about the other animals, not some fucking money. You're still murdering a living thing. The ends don't justify the means. It's evil. Joe Rogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Goldust, and Ted DiBiase Jr. are murderers. Fishing and other hunting is murder. Other animals' lives aren't your playthings. Leave other animals alone. Other animals aren't toys to dress up and pose for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. Leave other animals alone. Humans have a serious lack of empathy when it comes to other animals. They're not mindless machines. Their emotions aren't muted. Human ego is disgusting. Only animals of human-level intelligence are capable of evil. Humans aren't more special or important than other animals. You're not better by definition. Fuck you. There are far too many animals in orphanages, many kill orphanages, some gas chamber orphanages, to justify breeding/buying from breeders. They're #NotProperty to be bought/sold. Adopt. They'll show you how full of love life is. Save their life, and they'll save yours. It's not euthanasia. It's not done for their benefit. It's murder. Imagine the outrage if humans who weren't being adopted were killed. It's no different for other animals. Other animals don't have "vets". They have doctors, and health and medical care. Just like humans. There's no distinction. There'd be outrage if different humans had different doctors and terms depending on their race. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. People spend money on war rather than helping other animals. Medical care should be socialised, like humans have. Caring for other animals isn't a chore, it's a duty and privilege. Other animals don't belong in the entertainment industry. Not only is it extremely stressful for them, and wild animals are abused until they submit to human will, but how dare you deprive them of their life. Elephants that do tricks and give rides aren't happy. They do it out of fear of what happens if they refuse. Swimming with dolphins isn't a good activity. It's extremely stressful for them, and leads to them catching diseases. They're viewed as tools for profit, nothing else. Other apes, monkeys, and horses used on cards smiling because they're happy. Other apes and monkeys do what's called a "fear grimace", while horses smile in submission. They're not happy, they're abused. Freedom is what matters in life. You wouldn't trade freedom for comfort and safety, and you have no right to force that on other animals. Experimenting on other animals is vile. How dare you cause such immense suffering and murder. You're birthing them to torture them. What a miserable existence. That constant, unending torture is unimaginable for most people. Fireworks and other explosions are horrible. Other animals, like cats, dogs, and birds, get absolutely terrified by fireworks. Causing such intense, unending fear is unjustifiable. Oreos and Doritos use #ConflictPalmOil, leading to extinction of countless species, such as orangutans. 25 orangutans are murdered every day for unsustainable palm oil production. www.ran.org/publications/conflict_palm_oil_the_human_cost_of_conflict_palm_oil/ 6gupp2m546k1gbxng1rlf2m3-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ShoppingList-v3-Nov-2018.pdf Leather's disgusting. Other animals, especially cows, suffer tremendously for leather production. It's not just a by-product of the meat industry. www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/leather-is-more-than-a-by-product-of-the-meat-industry/ www.care2.com/causes/the-shocking-truth-about-leather-no-its-not-a-meat-byproduct.html amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/27/ethicalfashion.leather Fur and down are the result of immense torture and horrific murder. relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2016/08/wildlife-china-fur-farming-welfare www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fur-farms-animal-welfare-cruelty-cannibalism-mink-foxes-coat-jacket-a8647616.html?amp www.furfreealliance.com/severe-animal-cruelty-polish-fur-farms-revealed/ www.thedodo.com/amphtml/fur-farms-stop-the-cruelty-1527692086.html www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/here-are-the-innocent-faces-of-the-cruel-fur-industry/ www.onegreenplanet.org/news/top-brands-using-fur-from-monster-foxes/ Wool is a product of abuse, just like fur, angora, and mohair, not just in the East, but western nations like America, the UK, and Australia, too. www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/a-wool-jumper-is-just-as-cruel-as-a-mink-coat-9610133.html?amp Dogs and wolves don't have a strict hierarchy with an alpha. Treating them like they do is just cruel and confusing. io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629 Canada and Trudeau still let baby seals have their skulls smashed to bits with clubs. www.hsi.org/assets/pdfs/myths_and_facts_seal_hunt.pdf relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2017/04/wildlife-watch-canada-harp-seal-hunt www.thedodo.com/amphtml/canada-seal-hunt-2333758471.html m.ruclips.net/video/XCYf9q9t9bo/видео.html Don't feed birds bread, or cats cows' milk or cheese. Bread has no nutritional value for birds, it just stops them from eating useful food, and cats are lactose intolerant. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1953493/Royal-Society-for-the-Protection-of-Birds-RSPB-says-to-ban-bread-as-bird-food.html www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-cant-cats-drink-milk-plus-6-other-feline-myths/ pets.webmd.com/cats/ss/slideshow-foods-your-cat-should-never-eat Littering's disgusting. Other animals have to walk on that floor, and right next to your rubbish. They don't want to do that. Don't be a selfish cunt. Balloons, Chinese lanterns, glitter, sequins, and microbeads don't decompose. They stay in the environment, and end up being swallowed by other animals. Having human-level intelligence doesn't somehow stop you being an animal. That makes no sense, whatsoever. It's specifically because you're an animal that you can have human-level intelligence. It is a trait of animals because an animal has it: humans. Everything we do is, by definition, animalistic, because we are animals. Everything humans do is by definition animalistic, because humans are animals. There's no distinction. Being an animal isn't an insult. It's awesome. It's what lets you be you. Intelligence doesn't make one animal more special than another. That's just a trait humans have. It's no better than running fast or jumping high. Evolution has no will. It's not trying to make other animals more human-like. A slug is as evolved as we are. A slug got it right. It doesn't make you inherently better at all, and saying that totally disregards how stupid and evil humans are. It's nonsensical. That's human ego. The second an alien race arrives that's more intelligent than we are, you people will move the goalposts for what it means to be more special. You say it not because it's true, but because it currently benefits you. You can't own another living thing. They're not consumer goods to be bought and sold. They're not property. They're above monetary value. They're not toys for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. There'd be outrage if humans were treated like property. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. We're not their owners, we're their parents. Pet isn't an insult. That's horrible. A pet is an animal of another species, in your family, that you care for. They're your children, and brothers, and sisters, and nieces, and nephews, and cousins, not some ornament to have around for novelty, that you only pay attention to when you're bored. Species is irrelevant to family. You wouldn't do it to humans, so don't do it to other animals. It's that simple. No one has the right to make fun of, or hurt, or abuse, or exploit, or murder, any other animal, for any reason. Do what is right, not what is easy. Humans are animals, and no more special than any other creature. #AnimalCruelty #AnimalAbuse #AnimalWelfare #AnimalRights #AdoptDontShop #OptToAdopt
It's not respectable to talk about murdering other animals. You wouldn't say that about a Nazi: ""oh, well at least they're talking about their evil, murderous ways with prose and decorum!" Fuck off. It's evil. Money sent from murder is irrelevant. It's about the other animals, not some fucking money. You're still murdering a living thing. The ends don't justify the means. It's evil. Joe Rogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Goldust, and Ted DiBiase Jr. are murderers. Fishing and other hunting is murder. Other animals' lives aren't your playthings. Leave other animals alone. Other animals aren't toys to dress up and pose for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. Leave other animals alone. Humans have a serious lack of empathy when it comes to other animals. They're not mindless machines. Their emotions aren't muted. Human ego is disgusting. Only animals of human-level intelligence are capable of evil. Humans aren't more special or important than other animals. You're not better by definition. Fuck you. There are far too many animals in orphanages, many kill orphanages, some gas chamber orphanages, to justify breeding/buying from breeders. They're #NotProperty to be bought/sold. Adopt. They'll show you how full of love life is. Save their life, and they'll save yours. It's not euthanasia. It's not done for their benefit. It's murder. Imagine the outrage if humans who weren't being adopted were killed. It's no different for other animals. Other animals don't have "vets". They have doctors, and health and medical care. Just like humans. There's no distinction. There'd be outrage if different humans had different doctors and terms depending on their race. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. People spend money on war rather than helping other animals. Medical care should be socialised, like humans have. Caring for other animals isn't a chore, it's a duty and privilege. Other animals don't belong in the entertainment industry. Not only is it extremely stressful for them, and wild animals are abused until they submit to human will, but how dare you deprive them of their life. Elephants that do tricks and give rides aren't happy. They do it out of fear of what happens if they refuse. Swimming with dolphins isn't a good activity. It's extremely stressful for them, and leads to them catching diseases. They're viewed as tools for profit, nothing else. Other apes, monkeys, and horses used on cards smiling because they're happy. Other apes and monkeys do what's called a "fear grimace", while horses smile in submission. They're not happy, they're abused. Freedom is what matters in life. You wouldn't trade freedom for comfort and safety, and you have no right to force that on other animals. Experimenting on other animals is vile. How dare you cause such immense suffering and murder. You're birthing them to torture them. What a miserable existence. That constant, unending torture is unimaginable for most people. Fireworks and other explosions are horrible. Other animals, like cats, dogs, and birds, get absolutely terrified by fireworks. Causing such intense, unending fear is unjustifiable. Oreos and Doritos use #ConflictPalmOil, leading to extinction of countless species, such as orangutans. 25 orangutans are murdered every day for unsustainable palm oil production. www.ran.org/publications/conflict_palm_oil_the_human_cost_of_conflict_palm_oil/ 6gupp2m546k1gbxng1rlf2m3-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ShoppingList-v3-Nov-2018.pdf Leather's disgusting. Other animals, especially cows, suffer tremendously for leather production. It's not just a by-product of the meat industry. www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/leather-is-more-than-a-by-product-of-the-meat-industry/ www.care2.com/causes/the-shocking-truth-about-leather-no-its-not-a-meat-byproduct.html amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/27/ethicalfashion.leather Fur and down are the result of immense torture and horrific murder. relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2016/08/wildlife-china-fur-farming-welfare www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fur-farms-animal-welfare-cruelty-cannibalism-mink-foxes-coat-jacket-a8647616.html?amp www.furfreealliance.com/severe-animal-cruelty-polish-fur-farms-revealed/ www.thedodo.com/amphtml/fur-farms-stop-the-cruelty-1527692086.html www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/here-are-the-innocent-faces-of-the-cruel-fur-industry/ www.onegreenplanet.org/news/top-brands-using-fur-from-monster-foxes/ Wool is a product of abuse, just like fur, angora, and mohair, not just in the East, but western nations like America, the UK, and Australia, too. www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/a-wool-jumper-is-just-as-cruel-as-a-mink-coat-9610133.html?amp Dogs and wolves don't have a strict hierarchy with an alpha. Treating them like they do is just cruel and confusing. io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629 Canada and Trudeau still let baby seals have their skulls smashed to bits with clubs. www.hsi.org/assets/pdfs/myths_and_facts_seal_hunt.pdf relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2017/04/wildlife-watch-canada-harp-seal-hunt www.thedodo.com/amphtml/canada-seal-hunt-2333758471.html m.ruclips.net/video/XCYf9q9t9bo/видео.html Don't feed birds bread, or cats cows' milk or cheese. Bread has no nutritional value for birds, it just stops them from eating useful food, and cats are lactose intolerant. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1953493/Royal-Society-for-the-Protection-of-Birds-RSPB-says-to-ban-bread-as-bird-food.html www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-cant-cats-drink-milk-plus-6-other-feline-myths/ pets.webmd.com/cats/ss/slideshow-foods-your-cat-should-never-eat Littering's disgusting. Other animals have to walk on that floor, and right next to your rubbish. They don't want to do that. Don't be a selfish cunt. Balloons, Chinese lanterns, glitter, sequins, and microbeads don't decompose. They stay in the environment, and end up being swallowed by other animals. Having human-level intelligence doesn't somehow stop you being an animal. That makes no sense, whatsoever. It's specifically because you're an animal that you can have human-level intelligence. It is a trait of animals because an animal has it: humans. Everything we do is, by definition, animalistic, because we are animals. Everything humans do is by definition animalistic, because humans are animals. There's no distinction. Being an animal isn't an insult. It's awesome. It's what lets you be you. Intelligence doesn't make one animal more special than another. That's just a trait humans have. It's no better than running fast or jumping high. Evolution has no will. It's not trying to make other animals more human-like. A slug is as evolved as we are. A slug got it right. It doesn't make you inherently better at all, and saying that totally disregards how stupid and evil humans are. It's nonsensical. That's human ego. The second an alien race arrives that's more intelligent than we are, you people will move the goalposts for what it means to be more special. You say it not because it's true, but because it currently benefits you. You can't own another living thing. They're not consumer goods to be bought and sold. They're not property. They're above monetary value. They're not toys for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. There'd be outrage if humans were treated like property. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. We're not their owners, we're their parents. Pet isn't an insult. That's horrible. A pet is an animal of another species, in your family, that you care for. They're your children, and brothers, and sisters, and nieces, and nephews, and cousins, not some ornament to have around for novelty, that you only pay attention to when you're bored. Species is irrelevant to family. You wouldn't do it to humans, so don't do it to other animals. It's that simple. No one has the right to make fun of, or hurt, or abuse, or exploit, or murder, any other animal, for any reason. Do what is right, not what is easy. Humans are animals, and no more special than any other creature. #AnimalCruelty #AnimalAbuse #AnimalWelfare #AnimalRights #AdoptDontShop #OptToAdopt
I'm a pita person, people that eat tasty animals I enjoy your show for me. I respect you for listening to both sides and for standing your ground. I also enjoyed you in the Fear Factor.
Honestly, he has the type of vegan attitude that would be nice to engage with rather that shouting and criticising others, I'm vegan and in all honesty agree with Joe, if I lived in the bush, near a wild river or something I probably would eat animals every now and then, but what a pleasure seeing a civil conversation between two such differing opinions, well done gentlemen, well done
@@laurafedora5385 that’s exactly what I try to do, everyone is on their own path and needs to choose for themselves but ya, factory farming and how animals are treated is pretty much where I draw the line, I just personally can’t be a part of it 😌
Exactly. It's a shame since people like you and the people who responded to this comment (or the friends they're talking about) make up the majority of vegans. However, it's these "activists" like that vegan teacher and stuff that get the most attention and people assume that's what's all vegans are like. They don't realise that yelling at people and calling them evil and stuff is just discouraging people from wanting to become vegan and causing more hate to the idea. I personally am not vegan but I can see that the world will never be at a sustainable and humane rate of meat consumption due to these people making bad names for the cause.
@@nickniehaus1763 It's also called Civility, something they stopped teaching in school years ago. This is a prime example of two guys having a civil discussion about a topic they disagree on without the "gotcha moments" or political rhetoric. Refreshing.
It's not respectable to talk about murdering other animals. You wouldn't say that about a Nazi: ""oh, well at least they're talking about their evil, murderous ways with prose and decorum!" Fuck off. It's evil. Money sent from murder is irrelevant. It's about the other animals, not some fucking money. You're still murdering a living thing. The ends don't justify the means. It's evil. Joe Rogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Goldust, and Ted DiBiase Jr. are murderers. Fishing and other hunting is murder. Other animals' lives aren't your playthings. Leave other animals alone. Other animals aren't toys to dress up and pose for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. Leave other animals alone. Humans have a serious lack of empathy when it comes to other animals. They're not mindless machines. Their emotions aren't muted. Human ego is disgusting. Only animals of human-level intelligence are capable of evil. Humans aren't more special or important than other animals. You're not better by definition. Fuck you. There are far too many animals in orphanages, many kill orphanages, some gas chamber orphanages, to justify breeding/buying from breeders. They're #NotProperty to be bought/sold. Adopt. They'll show you how full of love life is. Save their life, and they'll save yours. It's not euthanasia. It's not done for their benefit. It's murder. Imagine the outrage if humans who weren't being adopted were killed. It's no different for other animals. Other animals don't have "vets". They have doctors, and health and medical care. Just like humans. There's no distinction. There'd be outrage if different humans had different doctors and terms depending on their race. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. People spend money on war rather than helping other animals. Medical care should be socialised, like humans have. Caring for other animals isn't a chore, it's a duty and privilege. Other animals don't belong in the entertainment industry. Not only is it extremely stressful for them, and wild animals are abused until they submit to human will, but how dare you deprive them of their life. Elephants that do tricks and give rides aren't happy. They do it out of fear of what happens if they refuse. Swimming with dolphins isn't a good activity. It's extremely stressful for them, and leads to them catching diseases. They're viewed as tools for profit, nothing else. Other apes, monkeys, and horses used on cards smiling because they're happy. Other apes and monkeys do what's called a "fear grimace", while horses smile in submission. They're not happy, they're abused. Freedom is what matters in life. You wouldn't trade freedom for comfort and safety, and you have no right to force that on other animals. Experimenting on other animals is vile. How dare you cause such immense suffering and murder. You're birthing them to torture them. What a miserable existence. That constant, unending torture is unimaginable for most people. Fireworks and other explosions are horrible. Other animals, like cats, dogs, and birds, get absolutely terrified by fireworks. Causing such intense, unending fear is unjustifiable. Oreos and Doritos use #ConflictPalmOil, leading to extinction of countless species, such as orangutans. 25 orangutans are murdered every day for unsustainable palm oil production. www.ran.org/publications/conflict_palm_oil_the_human_cost_of_conflict_palm_oil/ 6gupp2m546k1gbxng1rlf2m3-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ShoppingList-v3-Nov-2018.pdf Leather's disgusting. Other animals, especially cows, suffer tremendously for leather production. It's not just a by-product of the meat industry. www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/leather-is-more-than-a-by-product-of-the-meat-industry/ www.care2.com/causes/the-shocking-truth-about-leather-no-its-not-a-meat-byproduct.html amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/27/ethicalfashion.leather Fur and down are the result of immense torture and horrific murder. relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2016/08/wildlife-china-fur-farming-welfare www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fur-farms-animal-welfare-cruelty-cannibalism-mink-foxes-coat-jacket-a8647616.html?amp www.furfreealliance.com/severe-animal-cruelty-polish-fur-farms-revealed/ www.thedodo.com/amphtml/fur-farms-stop-the-cruelty-1527692086.html www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/here-are-the-innocent-faces-of-the-cruel-fur-industry/ www.onegreenplanet.org/news/top-brands-using-fur-from-monster-foxes/ Wool is a product of abuse, just like fur, angora, and mohair, not just in the East, but western nations like America, the UK, and Australia, too. www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/a-wool-jumper-is-just-as-cruel-as-a-mink-coat-9610133.html?amp Dogs and wolves don't have a strict hierarchy with an alpha. Treating them like they do is just cruel and confusing. io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629 Canada and Trudeau still let baby seals have their skulls smashed to bits with clubs. www.hsi.org/assets/pdfs/myths_and_facts_seal_hunt.pdf relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2017/04/wildlife-watch-canada-harp-seal-hunt www.thedodo.com/amphtml/canada-seal-hunt-2333758471.html m.ruclips.net/video/XCYf9q9t9bo/видео.html Don't feed birds bread, or cats cows' milk or cheese. Bread has no nutritional value for birds, it just stops them from eating useful food, and cats are lactose intolerant. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1953493/Royal-Society-for-the-Protection-of-Birds-RSPB-says-to-ban-bread-as-bird-food.html www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-cant-cats-drink-milk-plus-6-other-feline-myths/ pets.webmd.com/cats/ss/slideshow-foods-your-cat-should-never-eat Littering's disgusting. Other animals have to walk on that floor, and right next to your rubbish. They don't want to do that. Don't be a selfish cunt. Balloons, Chinese lanterns, glitter, sequins, and microbeads don't decompose. They stay in the environment, and end up being swallowed by other animals. Having human-level intelligence doesn't somehow stop you being an animal. That makes no sense, whatsoever. It's specifically because you're an animal that you can have human-level intelligence. It is a trait of animals because an animal has it: humans. Everything we do is, by definition, animalistic, because we are animals. Everything humans do is by definition animalistic, because humans are animals. There's no distinction. Being an animal isn't an insult. It's awesome. It's what lets you be you. Intelligence doesn't make one animal more special than another. That's just a trait humans have. It's no better than running fast or jumping high. Evolution has no will. It's not trying to make other animals more human-like. A slug is as evolved as we are. A slug got it right. It doesn't make you inherently better at all, and saying that totally disregards how stupid and evil humans are. It's nonsensical. That's human ego. The second an alien race arrives that's more intelligent than we are, you people will move the goalposts for what it means to be more special. You say it not because it's true, but because it currently benefits you. You can't own another living thing. They're not consumer goods to be bought and sold. They're not property. They're above monetary value. They're not toys for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. There'd be outrage if humans were treated like property. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. We're not their owners, we're their parents. Pet isn't an insult. That's horrible. A pet is an animal of another species, in your family, that you care for. They're your children, and brothers, and sisters, and nieces, and nephews, and cousins, not some ornament to have around for novelty, that you only pay attention to when you're bored. Species is irrelevant to family. You wouldn't do it to humans, so don't do it to other animals. It's that simple. No one has the right to make fun of, or hurt, or abuse, or exploit, or murder, any other animal, for any reason. Do what is right, not what is easy. Humans are animals, and no more special than any other creature. #AnimalCruelty #AnimalAbuse #AnimalWelfare #AnimalRights #AdoptDontShop #OptToAdopt
The only normal conversation between a vegan and hunter ever caught on camera
@@jmichaelmccarty love listening to him. His documentary on Netflix is really good as well.
This is how humans should interact when they disagree. That's what I love about Joe. He talks to all kinds of people and tries to get where they're coming from.
Confirmation bias
My best friend is vegan and she is really cool, doesn’t push her beliefs on others, she actually actively tried to get me to order a meal with chicken last time we went out, because she thought I was ordering a salad for her benefit. 😆
Not all vegans are like crazy church people trying to force their religion on you.
I had a normal conversation with one. She'd overheard me say I hadn't hunted deer in 6 years and asked me why? I told her my life had gotten extremely busy right after the last hunt and that my father(my hunting buddy) had a stroke shortly after and we'd both taken a deer that year and that a lot of the meat had went to waste because I was gone working a lot and my father while he was recovering from his stroke had forgotten to give it away like we had decided and that I loved deer meat but I wasn't going to kill one if was going to end up freezer burnt. I asked her why she was vegan? She told me that she was extremely sensitive but was outgrowing it some and was thinking about becoming a vegetarian and then we went back to our other conversations. The fear in the other people's eyes at the table with us could be felt when she asked me that though😂. She wasn't rude,just seemed curious.
Regardless of your opinion on hunting, these guys are a great example of how two people with different opinions can sit and have a civilized conversation with great communication skills and developed emotional intelligence.
The world would be a much better place with more of this.
Yea but in America right now the ability to listen is almost gone
@@KelticTim Very true but it's not just America and it's not just right now.
World history is littered with examples of it.
@@KelticTim was just about to say, and I'm not sure if it's a more British thing or not, but I've found that here in England you can have discussions like this and very rarely does it get personal
Exactly
100% agree. Very refreshing.
I love how Russel Brand thinks and connects ALL things in a matter of seconds and refuses to stop cause everything is connected
This is how people are meant to converse, differing opinions but respectful conversation. Kudos to them both. I strongly believe there is hope, but not just hope I think people are starting to work towards a common future.
"Have you ever tried Joe Rogan" - DMT
hahahahaha
Lord that's funny
😂🤣
Have you ever tried Russel Brand ~ Her0in
DM "have you ever tried Joe Rogan" T
The problem: how disgusting factory farming is.
Russell’s solution: don’t eat meat,
Joes solution: acquire meat himself
Both great solutions! No need to judge anyone for one solution or another.
compromise: eat less meat.
The human body does not like meat. Hunting is still murder. That animal didn't want to die. These are my views. Not trying to push my views on others but I felt like sharing. Peace.
@Wyatt Earp slaughter, kill, murder. Whatever word you would like to attach to it. You're still ending the life of a living creature that does not want its life to end.
@@184Dadada Yanking a plant out of the ground or cutting its fruit/seeds from a branch/stem ends its life. I'm sure it didn't want that either. You are assuming the feelings of individual living organisms to suit your personal feelings. Eating the fruit of a plant is eating it's seeds which are ending the life of a potential plant. Stop being hypocritical.
@@striveforselflessness3220 plants are not sentient beings. Your argument is very silly.
Not always a fan of Brands opinions but I love love how he can speak his mind on it and communicate and share a conversation like adults.
Brandon A. Deimel such a rare trait nowadays
"when are you going to stop talking?"
"never, you gave an in"
That's just pure genious.
hunting is much like when a dog sees a squirrel gets excited and kills it, then has no idea with it after. There is an adrenaline rush with it, but no hunter is happy that has killed it. Its a sense of sacrifice that it has given just for you to have the opportunity to feed yourself and your family. It is a debt the hunter can never pay, but in the afterlife it will be realized that it was not out of evil.
i believe most hunters will agree with me, in the end yes the thought that youve taken its life is sad, if any hunter has had to hit a doe more than twice knows what i mean its an awful thing. but you will appreciate every single ounce of material body it has given you and in the afterlife the animal may forgive u if you do that
Well said my friend.
There are many things I don't see in the way Russell does. But he is open, he listens , he thinks he accepts people's differences. I really like the guy and he is very funny.
Nice adult conversation. Two people with different beliefs and perspectives talking calmly and learning from each others differences. 👏
Hunting is good as long as you eat the damn thing
Good for what? I'm not saying hunting is necessarily bad, but just saying that it's generally good doesn't sound very accurate.
@@christopher152 Keeping the ecosystem in balance so that the other animals in that ecosystem don't die off because of one species of animal dominating that area.
@@BG_808 You completely misunderstood my comment, but yes that is correct, in some cases.
@@christopher152 How did I misunderstand your comment? Wouldn't that be a reason for why hunting is "generally" good?
@@BG_808 Because the question was merely rhetorical. The point of the comment was to point out that you can't just say "Hunting is good as long as you eat the damn thing". Well, you can but it's not true. Also, regarding your point, no, that wouldn't make it "generally" good, only good under very specific circumstances. Quite the opposite. Either way, that was beside my point. Thanks though.
This episode made me really love Brand. Critical and inquisitive but also open to listening
"i've given up judging people I don't agree with because I accept I don't know everything". I think this could be one of the most important things a human can learn?
It's a good lesson if applied correctly or else you'll end up with moral relativism. You don't know everything but that doesn't mean you don't know anything, right?
i think there is a huge difference between persuasion and condemnation, and in these highly tense times, that nuance can get lost.
I read this comment at the exact moment he was saying this wth
What about murder or rape tho? There are plenty of things people feel strongly about and can’t just be like “well u just feel differently, I don’t know everything”. And I’m not saying that invalidates the idea or what he’s saying, cause I agree with him, but it only applies to things that aren’t serious enough to matter like that. If there were no government or laws and there was a murderer in your neighborhood, shouldn’t you judge him or even take measures to stop him?
If not then it has to be damn close 😂
I dont hunt anymore but as a teen and young adult hunting season was about spending the best years of my life hanging with and learning from my dad. Miss that guy.
I think that's almost more of the point of hunting for alot of people is the bond you get with your old man and then what you pass to your son's or daughters.
You should pick it back up man.
You don't need to kill animals in order to bond with your father.
@@dannydorko7075 come on bro think having a dig at how someone remembers there dads worst than killing an animal that’s gonna die in the wild anyway.
@@dannydorko7075 it's not about killing the animal you uncultured swine. It's the journey and struggle and happiness of success. Simple ass liberal.
Holy shit, when I read the title, I didnt expect such a rational, honest response from Russell. Well done sir.
you should go watch a podcast he did with jordan petterson it was really good
@@spencergardner7277 Well, guess I'll be listening to that now. Didn't know they did one. Thanks!
Push Back yeah my respect for Russell went up
Russel likes to take the piss from time to time, but in the latter years he's really matured. He fancies himself an intellect, which he most certainly is not, but he's entertaining to listen to.
@@misterkid I respect the fact that he respects other people being interested in something he is personally against, maybe one day politicians and political activists will start to think the same way
This conversation is how we all should talk and debate.
True but these are too very exceptional indoviduals. Just not possible with most people
No its not dumbass
@@rhythym5540 shutup troll
Nah man, i would much rather become a president and just shit on people on twitter because of my insecurites regarding my orange skin.
too bad libtards are not capable
Watching this after the presidential debate. This is how two intelligent adults who disagree on something should talk
To be fair, neither of them accused the other of racism, bigotry, and sexism before meeting to talk
Rabidcolombian exactly. 👍
Rabidcolombian To be fair, they both probably paid more than 750 dollars in taxes, and neither Joe or Russell actually are racist, bigots, or sexist. Also, Russell didn’t call him “Stinky Joe” Rogan, for example, before this discussion. Translation: That debate and this debate isn’t exactly an apples to apples comparison. Or is that tough for you to figure out?
@@speakingtruths4215 yeah I 100% agree Trump smoked Biden in that debate.. it was like the greatest Granny Smith ever to a rotten Tomato. Spot on man keep speaking truth👍
@masterp@1ne something that you will never get a leftist to understand is, every tax loophole that Millionaire and billionaire use, they themselves could use if they had a job and actually paid taxes, and those laws have been on the books for decades and they aren't laws that Trump had anything to do with, he used the tax code that are in place and perfectly legal.
Two of the absolute best Podcasters out there. Joe's listening ability and Russel's open mindedness...
And vice versa
It’s sad people are surprised two people can talk with opposing opinions
@@UFC_PICKS amen. We need to relearn that in society. Just because we disagree does not mean you are my enemy
@@UFC_PICKS very sad
@@UFC_PICKS
Well I get it, but I’d say both of these dude’s go above and beyond of what should the expectation, which is why they get extra praise
I love how Russell Brand actually wants to understand something he disagrees with
But joe doesn’t, and neither does most people that hunt. That mind frame is the issue
@@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 I understand that people don't like hunting and there's nothing wrong with that but I get tried of people calling us scumbags and shit like that and he clearly said that he understood
@@1Leggo9my9Eggo2 Joe literally said he understands and respects the decision to not hunt or eat animal products in the very beginning of this discussion. Get off your soap box. Just because everyone isn't dropping everything rn to become vegan doesn't mean it's just ears plugged "lalalalala nanana cant hear you"
@@oakley.130 scumbag! jk lol in my unjudging opinion i think hunting should be reserved as a last resort to survival. Like if you are starving out in the cold with no edible vegitation and no other means of food. We shouldnt have mass farming and killing of animals because a lot of those animals are killed and wasted!!! what a shame. And i LOVE a good burger so this is a sacrifice for me as well that i am willing to take. We live in a self centered world tho where theres no way this would realistically happen unfortunately.
@@530Issa I'd argue that people who eat meat should hunt at least once in their lives. Having to see an animal die, then cut it open and pull its guts out, and then cook and eat it....takes it toll. Its not easy. I eat less meat because of it, and most others would too.
“I don’t judge other people for their beliefs because I don’t know everything”
Kyle Martinich if only everyone in society went about life like this. Nobody knows everything
Kyle Martinich try to get a religious person to admit that.
It's a cute aphorism
@@bandit7447 In this moment, we are euphoric.
Chaos - Eddie 混沌
Stop trolling
I love how they don’t interrupt each other and respect the opinion from one another.
Sadly rarely seen these days.
Peace
hennihaze you would hate the video with Shaub ari and Eddie then haha
NDT
One of the things I love about both of these guy, but especially Russell Brand. He is very good about not interrupting people and really listening to them and respecting their opinions.
Joe ever spoke about DMT
hennihaze usually people get very very upset when someone doesn’t agree with them its immature thing to do
Russell Brand is the model that everyone should look into being like. He’s open to conversation and to understand others that he doesn’t agree with. Our society keeps trying to cancel others that they don’t agree with. It’s quite sad.
U so stupid he’s a pussy we all were burn to hunt wtf u think animals r here for pets
@@josephjacobs4446 are you trolling ?
@@josephjacobs4446 and people like you are the reason wars start. Your assaninity and closed mindedness is saddening. You only want people to see things your way but won't listen to others. Bet your a great friend 🤣
Theres no such thing as canceling. Just consequences for your actions
@@killtrump_666
"Mettere a tacere è una semplice conseguenza" (To silence, it's a simple consequence).
~ Benito Mussolini
Congratulations on matching the opinion the inventor of fascism had on censorship.
"I've let go of judging people around things that I don't agree with because I reckon I don't know everything." -- absolutely no one anymore.
You might just be hanging out with the wrong people. Don't let all the media spin on both sides get you down. There's plenty of good people to talk to.
@@hoobaguy I have people from across the political/social spectrum in my circle of family and friends. I can count on one hand those that I can speak frankly with about differences of opinion. The world finally allowed the media to separate us into camps, and hardly anyone goes beyond regurgitating slogans and reading directly from the templates handed to them by pundits. I hope it gets better one day.
@@derekm3180 If you don't mind me asking; what do you do for work?
Grumpy Sega Tech I’m a tech writer
I am a hunter who has had some great conversations with people on r/vegan
I’ve no problem with hunting if you’re going to eat what you’ve killed. Hunting rare animals purely for sport is disgusting.
depends on how it's done. those rare animals are specifically selected because they are unable to breed or known targets of poachers. The cost of the hunt is extravagant to the hunter and all meat is donated to the locals. The only think the hunter gets to have is the picture at the end of the hunt usually
agree, we can't lose the rare ones man
Rather hunt you sweetheart
If things cant be hunted(wether or not it has the numbers to make hunting it sustainable) then those animals have to depend on other people. And the tragedy of modernity is that savage, primal man cares more about nature than civilized man. The hunter you despise for glory seeking is now in some cases the only reason some animals stick around. We live in a secularized, utilitarian, and materialistic age. We choose starbucks coffee and warm showers over a better world in most of our choices in daily life.
Depends on the nature of the animal man, culling sick and elderly animals is good. Trophy hunters pay a hefty sum for tge privilege, the local government gets the cash the local population gets the food.
Poachers killing elephants to cut their heads off so they can powder the ivory for chinese buisnessman ED medicine is another story.
“You’ve been properly dealt with paper man”
Russel Brand
😂😂😂
me throwing my birth certificate on the fire
fuckin read this as he said it legendary
Who’s the queen lizard? And there’s no reptilians
@@jrs351 "And there’s no reptilians
"
that's what they want us to think
I wish more conversations were like this it was so civilized.
Adults.
@Caleb M. F nah hes had plenty of guest rude. Some adults are able to disagree and give both sides and move on while still respecting eachother. This should be done 100% of the time unfortunately weve gotten away from this level of communication.
Brandon very far away
Ok sure so “civilised” Russel brand is so infuriatingly anoying. ruclips.net/video/vbAKUdEWzq8/видео.html
NorthernAaronPB that was 11 years ago....
THIS is how you have a disagreement and talk about it.
That’s where you are confused, they’re not having an argument. They just discussing each other’s feelings towards a certain topic
@@jrs351 He didn't say they were having an argument
Precisely what this country is lacking right now. Nobody can just discuss their beliefs without an argument happening.
They're far from arguing, not even mildly debating
They fundamentally disagree, but neither is trying to convince the other that he's wrong or should change his mind
They're simply discussing the ways in which they disagree and getting to understand each other's perspective better
Truly great to see
Yes, indeed
This talk about hunting was more civilized then that presidential debate
and of tangible value
accurate.
Absolutely right
Well yeah they're not opponents for a prestigious job. Being "presidential" is so fake.
Like 95% of conversations between humans are more civilized than the debates
“i’m done judging people for things i don’t agree with, because i reckon i don’t know everything” - russell brand
well said, what a guy.
This is refreshing. Politicians pay attention!
Honestly thats how I've been feeling lately, before I would take up on arms against everyone and would have dozens of threads on comment sections and forums arguing with people of different views. Now, arguments are good as long as they are productive, but most people dont look at themselves with a 3rd person view point and are blind as to what they dont know or could be.
Now THAT sir is how two people who disagree have a discussion.
They did not seem to have any disagreement though...
0ooTheMAXXoo0 listen to that again 6:04
So you are saying people shouldn’t have strong opinions?
@@nabilyassin1742 You can have strong opinions, but if you are an asshole as well, it don't work out well with other people. I think that strong opinions don't persuade because the people are too passionate, or they're assholes about it. The other person will just dig in and get defensive, and never consider the other person's side. You gotta soft sell, so they don't put their walls up. In this case nobody was soft selling... Russell just conceded. Probably to just keep a good banter going. I'm sure Russell has firm convictions but he's not an asshole, so he just met Rogan half way and said that his points were valid.
@@Linkman81 You nailed it man. Coming away from this respecting both dudes and their points of view.
You have to give Russell credit, most vegetarian/ vegans won't even try to see the other side of hunting or eating meat.
What kind of dog you have
same way most democrats won't even consider reading facts that oppose their views.
As for vegans, it feels really hypocritical how they can just claim to care about all lives and such but won't listen to billions of people that feel the need for meat or how they think that plants aren't living things. Just because they don't have sad crying eyes, doesn't make plants less alive.
Or think about rational scientific evidence. I don't judge his short sighted argument
@@KpK1Cioby Wow its hard to be as uneducated as your comment
@Cioby hypocritical to not listen to billions of people trying to justify killing billions of animals? is that really hypocritical or are you being dumb?
“You’ve been dealt with, paper-man”
* "You've been deawt wiff, paper man."
That was high fuckn larious
@@raoulduke25 what
@Masterpiece GB When I hunt it is never just trophy hunting and no one o know does this.. The ones that just trophy hunting are some from the cities. You take the game, you pray over them. Then you harvest all you can and what's l we ft goes to the dogs. Every animal I kill is one less that is raised and killed in horrible conditions. Also the people that don't eat the animal around here donate it to the poor
Ricky Woods I wonder if Masterpiece GB eats store bought meat? If he/she has ever seen the sick conditions that those type of meat are in they’d stop buying and start hunting and not every hunt do you get something because it takes skill and patience. Some folks will never understand. Have a fantastic day bud
I haven't been big game hunting in over 20 years but I still purchase a hunting and fishing license every year to help support my state's department of natural resources.
wtf does that even mean, help support your states department of natural resources lmao.
@@koenwijnen9186 Maybe when you grow up you will have a better understanding of what your local DNR does and how it works? Or you could just ask your mommy to explain it to you.
@@T.Dubya311 Not everybody lives in America dummy. Im from the Netherlands we have no DNR here. Is there something wrong with you or dont you know theres other countries?
@@koenwijnen9186 As far as I'm concerned there's only one country, genius, and that's the USA. I couldn't care less about the rest of America or your nether regions. Maybe next time you ask a question about someone's comment you should leave out the "WTF" and the "LMAO" so they know your question is legitimate and not just a smart-ass reply.
@@T.Dubya311 Its because even when I dont know what "supplying your state's department of natural resources" means in this context I already know its a dumb reason. Oy vey american boy, love being a wageslave for the tribe? DUmbass thinking America rules the world when its just a handful (((men))) that control you as the good little debtslave you are.
He looks like the Yoga instructor from GTA V
Lol
We are the unknown...
Lmaooooo
YOOOOOO
Also a douchebag
"Human on a bicycle, delightful! Never seen that before. AHHH MY BRAIN!"
No one hunts white tail on a bike though. The fuck is Joe talking about?
@@gb342002 I've been hunting since I was a teen and I've NEVER seen anyone hunting utilizing a bicycle, ATV's and Polaris's and such yes.
@@gb342002 i think he means to get to the area where the deer are
@@kaien800 no shit. Still doesn't happen
@@gb342002 I thought that same thing. Maybe in other countries or something but definitely not here in southern United States lol
Elk seeing a human on a bike for the first time:
“Delightful, never seen that before. AH MY BRAIN!”
Had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
I immediately looked for your comment when he said that .
Must be like a UFO to a deer
“Bit odd that bloke innit”
That killed me bruh 😂😂😂
"You've been dealt with paper man!"
rofl
Pay the man*
@@douglasmiller3290 *Paper man
Red Seaford uh oh he’s a sovereign citizen
Commas are important. Also, he's named the target so now it should be capitalized.
"You've been dealt with, Paper Man."
😄👍
"I've let go of judging people around things that I don't agree with, because I reckon I don't know everything."
THIS is the attitude we need in 2019.
Too bad the people who seem to want that attitude the most are the ones who can't let go of judging others.
Behold, someone just showed up to prove my point lol. "I'm correct so just let me force my beliefs onto you!" LoL
@Davidson 1 asserting that you know anything as an unalterable fact is a recipe for stagnation. If you're wrong about your assertions, but simultaneously cling to them forever, you'll never live in harmony with truth.
Bitter Truths ???
Instead we have a dramatically oversensitive outlook on the world and the people and things that inhabit it, people want to go out of their way to get offended, what a time to be alive.
Great conversation from two opposing views. Great to see adults can have a conversation about stuff they don’t agree with and still be friends 🤘🏼
Rogan said nothing persuasive or factual. He is a meat pimp for the meat industry.
Not much of a conversation. Joe Rogan does his usual fine job of speaking calmly, in monotone, to control the other speaker. And Russell Brand does nothing to share the healthy results of a plant-based diet. And Russell doesn't mention the harm done to one's health eating animal flesh. If he's vegan, his knowledge base is limited, or is it he's throwing softballs so Rogan can promote unhealthy meat consumption? Brand does not represent the vegan community. Does he really need Rogan to explain animal killing?
Yeah like white people having different opinions on african slaves, and still getting along .. it's a beautiful thing when you ignore the unnecessary victims
@@larrymaloney877 You sound like a moron. Especially about Rogan being a "pimp for the meat industry". He clearly says early on in the video that he is disgusted by factory meat production but apparently wanting to eat something other than a plant makes you a shill for megacorporations. You live in a fantasy world. Enjoy your grass though.
@Bule Bolang Exactly, enlightened individuals don’t rage, mob and cancel people they disagree with. We can value the personal decisions people make for themselves. I don’t agree with all of Russel’s views, but how he chooses to live his life for himself is what is right for him. As is our personal choice good for us. We need far more understanding in the world nowadays, not angry mobs.
Russell Brand + Joe Rogan can both listen to ideas they disagree with + be respectful + actually interested to understand the other sides view. The world needs more Joe's + Russell's
This interview made me like Russell Brand a lot more.
dylan6091 same
There are many more like this one.
Hes a good dude
Still a w*nker
Intelligence Guy
"Delightful, never seen that before.. OW MY BRAIN" - Russell Brand from the perspective of an Elk, 2019.
Very funny comment. Hunting on a bike is new to me.
Trust me, he didn't think: "oh my brain" or anything. It would have been a bad shot anyway. Very easy to miss or even worse leave an animal running around with no jaw.
@@riothero313 shush
@@riothero313 as tired as Reddit tags are....r/whoosh
Keith Carey has
2 open minded individuals sharing life stories and feelings, no voice raising, no screaming or crying. Just both accepting eachothers opinions and having a chat
no one speaking for the animals. Hunting is evil
If only politics was conducted with this level of respect and opened mindedness.
I don’t know why the left and right have to hate each other.
@@oxox491 cuz the stupid people of the left and right speak out the most saying stupid things to trigger each other.
vang-tou Lee they’re both idiots, and they fail to see it.
I think this was the goal at one point and time lol
It is. Politicians know how to negotiate. They just want their base to not think for themselves.
I feel like Russell grew up with one book, the thesaurus.
Catflap Lmao
Now the book russell needs is the Holy Bible, so he can accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Saviour before he takes his last breath in his flesh body. He has rejected his True Eternal Father Jesus Christ for to long and has made earthly riches instead of eternal riches. I pray for russel and all the other secular/wordly believing idiots to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour
Eli Bell 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And no dictionary to cross reference.
john doe man shut the fuck up
I've got a LOT more respect for Russell Brand because of this. He seems like a very intelligent and understanding individual.
I was thinking the same thing. I absolutely hated him before this video
I always found him to be misunderstood. I'm not suggesting that I fully understand him or anything. But, I've always just felt that he's spent a lot of time being wildly misunderstood. He's a thoughtful, masculine, sensitive, gregarious, feather-ruffling, careful, fuck-it, caring, generous asshole. Somehow he's Joe Rogan's oppsite and
complement.
**I'd love to listen to a podcast of just these 2 guys, drawimg a debatable topic out of a hat.
@@C_Tizzle He has changed alooooot though recently. He is much more self-aware of his old behaviour. Look at his netflix special, he talks alot about how the way he was wasn't healthy. To no ones surprise alot was because of drugs and alcohol.
He is! I've been following him for a while now, and even where he may seem a little ignorant about a topic, he is clearly very wise in his critical thinking or thought processes. I love his frankness, it's so refreshing 🥛🥛
@@C_Tizzle YESSSSSSS!!!
I’m not a fan of hunting but Rogans explanation makes sense. He’s right that if you’re really hunting older animals you could be saving them from an unpleasant end. Animals in the wild do not die peacefully in their sleep of old age.
I don't know. But The Bears and the Wolves also need to eat. It's just not so straight forward. But I am glad it makes people think
These 2 having a conversation , is the politician's worst nightmare...
filip hendrickx fuck yes!
Ow my brain
lol
I like Russel Brand, he doesn't try to force his life style onto others and he tries to understand the other person's views.
Lol no its not, the politicians worst nightmare is actual political revolution. They actually embrace this kind of shit, because it makes people complacent with the current system we have now and casts an illusion of enlightenment based solely on "listening to both sides".
If only more people talked about their disagreements in this fashion..
Jake Hornberger amen
Maturity goes a long way
Yeah no kidding
Haha we wouldn’t have all this sjw bs if people knew how to talk to each other like this
I've gotta shit!
It’s entirely possible that Elk seasoned with DMT will make you live forever
Am 622 years old, can confirm.
If I shot an elk and then then drank its spinal fluid within seconds of its death, would I get high?
Look into it
@@sshep86 only one way to find out
This is a highly underrated Joe Rogan comment.
Russell Brand has grown so much over the years. Most do, to some extent, but his journey has been public and while he absolutely drove me nuts years ago, he's now one of my favorite people to listen to and I would just love to have a conversation with him!
I completely understand that not everyone can deal with taking a majestic animal's life, and even I had some times where those thoughts went through my head. It's all about respect for nature, and realizing that we have always been a natural member of the food chain. I would never try to talk someone into hunting if they're not comfortable, and I'm glad Russell has realized it's not his place to do the opposite.
@nasser wiz Versus looking at what it is, you take his character and make an assumption against him to dislike him? On top of that, an assumption that has nothing backing it up?
@nasser wiz You're sure he manipulates young females? where did you gather this assuredness? or are you just saying you're sure because, you know, fuck it it's the internet?
@nasser wiz Jesus had a guru vibe too
@nasser wiz you're "looking at history" to make a judge of his character? How does that make any sense
@33y3z4y44 it's not supposed to make sense. I see these type of comments all the time justifying being a hater grasping at straws
I like Russell because I disagree with him about almost everything, but he respects my view and I respect his.
Tom that’s what I was thinking
but what if he is absolutely wrong about everything that comes out of his ghastly mouth
@@matthewstrand8055 "wrong" is subjective on complicated topics, especially when its a topic involving morality.
@Rob Roy I agree with you from ten minutes of research that Andrews is a racist. And yeah that’s quite true about the dictionary. I don’t know if he does it genuinely or not but sometimes Russel does just spout a bunch of big, overly-unnecessary, words in the middle of his sentences which can be cringey to watch. Still, “dickhead” couldn’t be more of a subjective term lol.
@@matthewstrand8055 he was right about the lbtyq bull and everyone rejecting what we actually are
This is what politics should be. Finding common ground.
Not many politicians can find common ground with anyone
An example: dems propose 2.3 trillion dollar bill and bail outs for democrat run cities, trump tries to find middle ground with 1.6 trillion, which is plenty. Dems refuse. Trump again tries to find common ground by wanting $1200 for every eligible American. Dems refuse. To them it's their way or nothing and this is the problem with the modern day dems and its why so many are leaving them for the repubs. fax only!
Because there's too much dirty money in politics. People can be easily bought.
Right they were just talking without judgment. They respect each other’s view
You're doing the thing you are talking about. Surely you can at least acknowledge that there are Democrats that have real views that you disagree with that aren't just bad people.
Video made me think of this quote by Bertrand Russell: 'The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.'
It is Socratian philosophy.
Wonderful
Dunning Kruger man. Its always true
Brilliant and so damn true. The problem is that the fools and fanatics do not have the capacity nor the interest in this quote and the feeling and philosophy behind it. Thank you.
Man, you do kill the hunted animal, you feel proud and you feel sorry, and you cry at the same moment. It's the same thing as with the native Indians that used to say "thank you" to the hunted down animal.
I can't explain this right away, but it is not an empty moment and it is not a triumph and pride all the way. Pride comes after the struggle. You gonna freeze your ass off 5 times before you will come up to the right place and right time.
The thing I wish joe would have whent into a little more detail with is how it's perfectly okay to have a huge amount empathy for what you are hunting, any hunter worth their salt never wants the animal to suffer. The best hunters and the best marksmen feel the most pride when dropping big game from over 150 yards away and hitting the sweet spot for instant death. No pain, is what every hunter should strive for.
Now that being said, I have messed up badly before when I was 11 and I shot a deer in the wrong spot and it wasn't instant death, I had to finish it with a knife and I cried, but we had meat for the winter. From then on I've practiced with a larger and more accurate caliber rifle with a scope that from 150 yards away I can shoot a grouping pattern about the size of the palm of your hand . I plan on making the grouping smaller. So hopefully I won't ever miss the instakill spot again. I also believe that any animal that is dying a long painful death is flooding it's body with adrenaline and other chemicals that make the meat taste no where near as good as when it's instant. Kind of natures way of saying you suck at this, do better next time.
I’m sorry you had to go through that, and I’m proud that you are improving your skills even beyond what is even necessary
It happens. But, hey. You improved yourself and hopefully, your next hunt will go much better.
Won't be the last time either. Happens to us all.
I just wish some of the Hunting Vloggers would stop calling an Animal that runs away into the Bush several hundred yards a clean Kill. It wasn't.
Why with knife? You couldve just shot it second time. Why use knife?
I gained immense respect for Russel Brand during this episode, he let a hunter explain his point of view fully, and then presented his own reasoning in a collected manner.
believe it or not, humans are suppose to do that naturally, but voting and the political spectrum made sure that we don't do that here lol.
Russel is great. Proud to be an Englishman with the fellow. He is great
Watch his channel. He's a very informed and intelligent person.
@@J040PL7 the Internet done that, not voting
@@matthewjdouglas6471 he's taken down his bellendness in recent years
this is the most intelligent debate ive ever seen on two opposing views of hunting
Another great debate of two even more intelligent men is jordan peterson vs sam harris those debates are damn impressive to say the least.
@@BYYoseph mostly anything jordan peterson does it impressive, ill be sure to check this out, thank you!
You are easily impressed.
@@nurbsnerd1483 and u easily find ways to make yourself feel superior... Whats the point?
@@nurbsnerd1483 what's the point in being a random dick on the internet to people having a good conversation?
I support hunting an Elk and eating every bit of that lovely animal. I don’t support shooting a rino to put its face on your wall
It's okay either way...if it's human.
What if that “rhino” or elephant, or lion, or kudu, just fed an entire 3rd world village?
TheVoluntaryistPilot it doesn’t. That’s rare. That’s the main argument for hunting in Africa but that hardly happens. Most of the meat doesn’t even reach the villages and the ivory in their horns is sold for a fuck load of money and all that money doesn’t go to a village it goes to the people who lead those safari hunting tours.
The kill rhynos and elefantes for their tusk and horn and let the rest to rot.
TheVoluntaryistPilot you ever see the videos of rhinos and elephants still alive with all their ivory cut off, dying slowly?
I love these kind of conversations. If more conversations with non-meat eaters sounded like this there'd be a lot more respect going back & forth. I grew up semi-regional & to have enough food sometimes you *have* to use what's around you but I love Russell being so settled in his decision.
Was not a big fan of Russell Brand the comedian am now however a big fan of Russell Brand the human being.
You wouldn't be exaggerating if u say he's one of a kind..
A lovely take from this.
Same here, I love him even though I barely understand him
Totally agree
Nice!
I love how genuinely interested he is when other people are passionate about a subject.
Noah Gibson Yeah at least he is interested in other perspectives. Instead of outright saying it’s wrong.
Dale Carnegie talked about that in his book "How To Win Friends and Influence People"
Being genuinely interested in the person you're talking with is a good way to make a great impression.
@@jimraynor7788 I have such a hard time doing that. If Im just not interested in what someone is saying I cant pretend to be interested. Not saying I wont listen, but I just have a hard time keeping the conversation going.
@@jimraynor7788 is that not the same book Charles Manson read before starting a cult? To be fair, must mean it's a pretty effective book.
peanutbutterballs Lmao really? Is that like a confirmed fact or just some folklore? Because the book itself is very insightful.
Joe Rogan and Russell Brand, two dudes smart enough to know they're not that smart and that's worthy of respect.
You aren't "that smart" and Joe Rogan groupies aren't "that smart" but the world is full of smart people who find Joe Rogan boring.
@@larrymaloney877 wow excellent, really contributes a meaningful point to the argument
@@larrymaloney877 you really got us man, now leave us enjoy ourselves
@@larrymaloney877 then dont fucking watch these clips
@@larrycooper5328 , How will not watching his nonsensical videos exposeJoe Rogan's simpleton views on soil conservation, nutrition, and the USA's health crisis? And, your health is in jeopardy eating the foods silly Joe thinks are important. Will he give you a healthy life back? Are you on daily meds yet? Who in your family is? Where do you suppose Joe got his education? Think about it; his is another venue where self-promoting narcissists have another venue so you can gawk. Can you think of something intelligent to say?
What a great conversation! The fact that these 2 men don't agree, don't change their pov, butt still hear and RESPECT each other gives us all a model of how to converse with people with which we do not agree.
This is the smartest vegan dude I've ever heard.
It seems like he gets humanity in a way that not a lot of people do, vegan or not.
@Dank Waifu you're acting like he should be paraded
You’re right i thought that same thing Alex. To not judge but tolerate and understand. I like that.
@@nonautemrexchristus5637 no he's not😂 Just surprised he didn't know him which I was tbh
@Dank Waifu Technically correct
true even sjws can learn from him
Wow, finally a respectable conversation between opposites. I'm impressed.
R. Brand interviewed Jordan Peterson, it was an even better example of this. Even when he can't totally "feel" what the other side is experiencing, Brand at least tries to acknowledge that maybe it's because his experience has been different from theirs.
That's not to say he will just tolerate people whose positions are indefensible, but generally he is extremely open to honest discussion.
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@@13milaine What the fuck?...
Holy shit! A conversation with differing opinions minus judging and grandstanding? Well played Joe and Russell, well played 👏👏👏👏
That's what it's supposed to be about. Not arguing but understand different points of view.
Yeah, it's called being an adult. I don't understand why so many people find this difficult.
I loved watching it and I consider both Joe and Russell to be intelligent men and they both made great points and I respect them both(I also think that the older he gets, the more Russell Brand is starting to look like the comic book writer Alan Moore).
l loved the point Joe made about hunting in an era prior to there being refrigeration as well as the kind of large-scale agriculture that we have now and how hard it was to get food.
It's similar to how when the founding fathers of the American revolution wrote the U.S. Constitution, when they wrote it, if you didn't hunt, it meant you didn't EAT.
I can respect both sides of the arguments that they were making.
I have never gone hunting but I know people who do hunt so I think that one of these days, I might have to try it.
Glen Lehane
If you're going to cry about judgement and grandstanding aren't you contributing to the problem? Cause are opinions all the same and self expression. Why is "judging" where some people want to cut off their "free speech" fanaticism? Let me say whatever I want but don't judge me? If the "differing opinions" mean a worse life for you or an attack on your humanity as it so often is with the many hateful ideas in our society, it's not just some inconsequential opinion.
Too bad religions couldn’t do this.
The title should be: Joe Rogan is interviewd by Russel Brand at Joe Rogan.
@@BK-gd7mn the difference being??
@@BK-gd7mn i understand. Thank you!
That... wasn't the outcome I was expecting... strange
@@leopardscanfly no me neither, this is baffling
@@sipsimies1588 Yh lol
But have you ever hunted a Elk on DMT?
You win
It would be immoral to give an elk DMT first! 😉
@Thomas C. *eyeroll*
The most Joe Rogan statement I've come across to date
Have you ever hunted DMT on Elk?
The Elk becomes the trip and the DMT the trophy...it's quite heavily regulated... by little guys with pointy ears on snowmachines...and lots of rules you can never know.
Holy shit a calm conversation about hunting. Nice
gym shoe He made a lot of sense and seemed to really soak in Rogan’s stance. This is called not a conversation.
Where as Shapiro will come on, speak in rapid fire, make little sense, and repeat his same talking points without learning anything. This is why I respect Russell Brand, he promotes open mindedness, and you can’t deny that.
@mike fightfan You seem to be confused
@Toronto Rangers Lol, what?
Toronto Rangers What? Do you even know what the difference is? Dog fighting involves extended periods of extremely violent fighting that will end in a terrible and painful death for the animal. Putting a bullet into the brain or heart of an animal is by far the least painful and fastest death for any animal. Not only that, hunting is used to provide food for people while dog fighting is literally for the dopamine release of watching gore and blood pour out of animals.
@Toronto RangersMy guess is, if those same hunters took two bull elk in full rut and put them in a small arena from which there was no escape, and forced them to gouge and gore themselves until one could no longer stand... the public would want to hang them too.
You can do much better.
I'm glad Russell understood that part of being human in the natural world being who we are the hunter gatherers is being a natural human.
Would have been more impressive with bows and spears they actually used to be a "hunter/gatherer", not gunpowder and lead.
@@Ronald1987100 why didnt the hunters back then use their fists?
Rogan is smart enough to not believe religious silliness from 2000 years ago because it doesn’t apply but he needs to relive his Hunter gatherer that is even older then religious silliness. Right
“There, you’ve been dealt with paper man”
I’m using that line at some point at the range LOL
I laughed bc I say "Take that paper man!" at the range all the time.😅 Another fave: "What? Say "what" one more time."😁
He realizes the pointlessness of his pride as soon as he expresses it. Love it.
2:15 xxx
I came to this vid just for russel lmaooooo
I like Brand so much more after hearing his opinion on things. He has a great way of hearing view points that differ from his, and responds intelligently without getting hysterical. We need more of that in the world.
most people are like that just the fucking emotional ones get all the air time because we like to see people lose the plot
@@TheWillog
I disagree. I think its a media campaign to make people *think* thats what they want to see.
same thing really @@verzeda
Neal Alack YEP
Dale Ritter lol, where can I see this?
Whether you agree with Joe or Russell there is no denying that this is the discourse we need more of.
Stephen 1982
Russell
Hmm true but I feel the discussion still needs more chocolate.
I don't think there was one that was wrong or right. Russel seem to have a libertarian mind set where it's your life to live not his and joe just stated that hunting costs go to help the environment. It seems like they found common ground and came to an agreement that hunting isn't bad.
This is how a debat should be.
Amen... the world needs it
I appreciate Russel Brand and Ricky Gervais. They're willing to hear out an argument and then challenge their own beliefs to understand others. A great example to their countrymen.
This is what Conversation looks like folks, an exchange of information, ideas, respect!
Even when Jordan Peterson was on Brand’s podcast, both were very well spoken it was great. He even had JP back on and it was just as good.
Russel Brand has paper thin skin. What a pussy 🤣
And russel brand acting 200% less arrogant in interviews because he knows rogan would shove his snowflake head up his own ass if he disrespected him on stream. Brand acted like the true pussy he is in this interview
No it's about yelling and not listening to the other person! Not seeing where other people are coming from, come on now.
@@EMD1028 jealous much?
You’ve been dealt with paper man ... that made me burst out laughing 😂
That's what e Wanted!.
Same 😂
I like the way Russell Brand's brain works. He can always see both sides of issues. Very open minded but aware that his beliefs/feelings are his own and does not try to impose them on others. He is not self righteous.
He hasn't always been that way though. He does seem to be getting better.
@@grayskull1521 No on is perfect, Gary Skull. We all know nothing at birth and will never know everything.
The best sort of intelligence is knowing that most decisions we make are based on emotion and our perception. if you learn how to learn then you are on the road. One aspect of this is to be aware that you don't know much and use the strengths of others to get the result for you.
Abigail b I agree. The world would be a better place if we could see other people's views and still do are own work and nothing ended with violence. Don't judge anybody. Have a great day😉🕊🍺☘🇮🇪💷
Totally agree
People love to throw the term "pseudo-intellectual" around. butttttt that's what russell is. He might be less of an ignorant douchebag now though, so progress of a kind I guess
Coming back after the last couple years, videos like these remind me how good the times were before. I hope we can go back to having mundane conversations soon
I love how the media has portrayed Russel Brand as a complete idiot, funny guy but once you did deeper you find possibly one of the most interesting and intelligent people on the planet who hasn’t let fame and money get to his head and is very willing to learn and contribute to intelligent conversation.
*sniff sniff*
What? The media portrays him as smart.
The NotMangaMan, most of the media from 2007-2012 from what I remembered always made fun of him because of how he dressed and he is a comedian so he isn’t academically intelligent, I was young at the time so I might perceived it wrong but that’s what I remember
How much did Russel pay you to write this comment lol
Radical Ricardo lmao
we need more people like russel. i respect his opinions because he respects ours. great man , funny human , and good all around person , i loved this interview joe !
"I let go of judging people for things I don't agree with, because you know, I don't know everything"
Mmhumm amen
@MorbidManMusic What are you even babbling about? He said amen, a word which means "confirm" or "truth" in Hebrew. Injecting religion into someone's statement to discredit their intelligence doesn't make you a genius either ....
Morbidmanmusic you’re not being a know it all judgmental person are you? I sure hope not.
Drizzyr what a humble response. That is rare thing to see on here theses days.
Its really sad to see people like you@MorbidManMusic. You should truly read that quote 100 times because it will amount to more than you will if you don't.
@MorbidManMusic nice job judging someone.
i love how eloquent russel brand is. but what i love is his perspective that people with contrarian thoughts should not impose on others who may not agree with them.
Holy shit. Russel just captured the intrinsic value of hunting to today’s society.
And he did it as a vegan.
Truly impressive .
He's so amazingly conscious. He has the ability to be truly compassionate amd I adore it.
@SUPERNATURAL MAN it's okay to be generic, non creative, and not witty/funny. Just accept it 😉
@SUPERNATURAL MAN these people just dont get it. Dont worry about her
While also slightly making fun of things some vegans do like rambling on about their view points and beliefs because they someone gave them an in like the topic of hunting. He’s a smart dude.
All creatures have their place in the world. Why is ours under so much criticism.
Russell has become incredibly insightful and aware of himself.
His ability to be so open minded to different viewpoints and his own hangups is impressive as well.
Yep I used to think he was just another privileged hippy wannabe douche. Color me impressed.
He has two qualities that most celebs lack. He can laugh at himself and admit his faults.
I was actually surprised at 7:00 onward. I used to want to punch this guy everytime I heard his voice...
I mean, his voice still makes me want to punch him, but his words make more sense now.
It's not like he does anything else, all he does is dick down celebs
@@GGtheRealest used too now he's married with two kids
Wow... I'm floored by Russell Brand being willing to listen to another side, and not loosing his mind. Everyone on both sides of the fence should take notes. I am a hunter, and have been my entire life, and my freezers are always full. I have had numerous conversations with anti hunters over the years that went south within minutes, if not seconds, because the anti zealot lost their minds. I'm not forcing my lifestyle on you, why would they do it to "us" to include death threats. Thank you Russell Brand for being the voice of reason on that side of the fence. I am so happy to have watched this.
yes, I'm sure you for sure are not the reason the "numerous conversations with anti-hunters over the years that went south within minutes"... as soon as they said something I bet your like "how dare you impede on my rights! 'merica trump yeehaw" or closet gay dudes like guns
Russell know, like all of us should, that it's not a great look to throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Lmao love the user name. “DeerSlayer”.
Holy shit.
So an entire Elk can feed a man for 8 months?!
Need to strap-up in the wood now.
Yeah, depends on how big the kill is though. If its a big one and all you eat is the meat you can probably make 5-6 months out of it if you eat other stuff with it so you can have smaller portions of the meat at a time you can make it even longer than 8. Rogans interview with glenn villenueve is good on this he talks a lot about it
@Liam Foster both of the things i said are right... notice the "If"
@Liam Foster i see mb
Liam Foster If you’re responding to the other guy, majority of Joe Rohan’s diet is elk. He has a podcast on RUclips that he says he’s on a all meat diet and Elk is his prefer meat. He’s occasionally have cheat day where he eat a piece of candy or other food but primarily he eat elk. But if he’s rations it to last 8 months, he must not eat big portion and is very controlling of the ounces he eats.
I've actually gotten a small whitetail deer a couple years ago and there was enough meat (if properly butchered) to fill up a freezer and deep freezer chest. Whitetail populations skyrocket rapidly in a lot of rural areas so it's necessary to keep their population in check
The thing to appreciate about Russel here is that he's capable of articulating and understanding this opposing viewpoint. He's not strawmanning anyone, he's not trying to win an argument. He's expressing his own distaste for hunting, but simultaneously accepting the reasoning behind why people like Joe hunt.
This video is a great example of tolerance. The antithesis of bigotry.
It really depends on the argument with him, he does often fall into the pit of assuming what people think rather than listening to what they say but he performed pretty well in this
It’s called not being insecure over your own ideas not a lot today
The antithesis of bigotry. That should be the title of the video.
sound like a conservative, libertarian, "independent"
Kevin Walter well-said 👏🏽
When someone asks a question and looks you in your eyes and prepares themselves for the answer is pure genuine conversation. Solid video
Man when the hell did Russel Brand become such a reasonable person? Very surprised how calm and respectful he was.
you realize what he does in movies has nothing to do with him in real life. its called acting. hes always been like this. jesus christ...
Dude got sober years ago. Hes been like this for awhile...
@@tupd Exactly, he's always been insightful and self-aware, now he's doing it with a sober mind and it's beautiful.
@@SauceySauce81 no he hasn't. Check out his first book or watch clips of his early career at MTV. I'm a fan but he hasn't always been so chill...
My guy Russell brand is wicked smart
It's very delicious, super nutritious
- Elk, by Joe Rogan
Jacob B This is funny.
That’s crazy man, you ever tried DMT?
It's not respectable to talk about murdering other animals. You wouldn't say that about a Nazi: ""oh, well at least they're talking about their evil, murderous ways with prose and decorum!" Fuck off. It's evil. Money sent from murder is irrelevant. It's about the other animals, not some fucking money. You're still murdering a living thing. The ends don't justify the means. It's evil.
Joe Rogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Goldust, and Ted DiBiase Jr. are murderers. Fishing and other hunting is murder. Other animals' lives aren't your playthings. Leave other animals alone. Other animals aren't toys to dress up and pose for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. Leave other animals alone. Humans have a serious lack of empathy when it comes to other animals. They're not mindless machines. Their emotions aren't muted. Human ego is disgusting.
Only animals of human-level intelligence are capable of evil. Humans aren't more special or important than other animals. You're not better by definition. Fuck you.
There are far too many animals in orphanages, many kill orphanages, some gas chamber orphanages, to justify breeding/buying from breeders. They're #NotProperty to be bought/sold. Adopt. They'll show you how full of love life is. Save their life, and they'll save yours.
It's not euthanasia. It's not done for their benefit. It's murder. Imagine the outrage if humans who weren't being adopted were killed. It's no different for other animals.
Other animals don't have "vets". They have doctors, and health and medical care. Just like humans. There's no distinction. There'd be outrage if different humans had different doctors and terms depending on their race. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism.
People spend money on war rather than helping other animals. Medical care should be socialised, like humans have.
Caring for other animals isn't a chore, it's a duty and privilege.
Other animals don't belong in the entertainment industry. Not only is it extremely stressful for them, and wild animals are abused until they submit to human will, but how dare you deprive them of their life. Elephants that do tricks and give rides aren't happy. They do it out of fear of what happens if they refuse. Swimming with dolphins isn't a good activity. It's extremely stressful for them, and leads to them catching diseases. They're viewed as tools for profit, nothing else.
Other apes, monkeys, and horses used on cards smiling because they're happy. Other apes and monkeys do what's called a "fear grimace", while horses smile in submission. They're not happy, they're abused.
Freedom is what matters in life. You wouldn't trade freedom for comfort and safety, and you have no right to force that on other animals.
Experimenting on other animals is vile. How dare you cause such immense suffering and murder. You're birthing them to torture them. What a miserable existence. That constant, unending torture is unimaginable for most people.
Fireworks and other explosions are horrible. Other animals, like cats, dogs, and birds, get absolutely terrified by fireworks. Causing such intense, unending fear is unjustifiable.
Oreos and Doritos use #ConflictPalmOil, leading to extinction of countless species, such as orangutans. 25 orangutans are murdered every day for unsustainable palm oil production.
www.ran.org/publications/conflict_palm_oil_the_human_cost_of_conflict_palm_oil/
6gupp2m546k1gbxng1rlf2m3-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ShoppingList-v3-Nov-2018.pdf
Leather's disgusting. Other animals, especially cows, suffer tremendously for leather production. It's not just a by-product of the meat industry.
www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/leather-is-more-than-a-by-product-of-the-meat-industry/
www.care2.com/causes/the-shocking-truth-about-leather-no-its-not-a-meat-byproduct.html
amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/27/ethicalfashion.leather
Fur and down are the result of immense torture and horrific murder.
relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2016/08/wildlife-china-fur-farming-welfare
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fur-farms-animal-welfare-cruelty-cannibalism-mink-foxes-coat-jacket-a8647616.html?amp
www.furfreealliance.com/severe-animal-cruelty-polish-fur-farms-revealed/
www.thedodo.com/amphtml/fur-farms-stop-the-cruelty-1527692086.html
www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/here-are-the-innocent-faces-of-the-cruel-fur-industry/
www.onegreenplanet.org/news/top-brands-using-fur-from-monster-foxes/
Wool is a product of abuse, just like fur, angora, and mohair, not just in the East, but western nations like America, the UK, and Australia, too.
www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/a-wool-jumper-is-just-as-cruel-as-a-mink-coat-9610133.html?amp
Dogs and wolves don't have a strict hierarchy with an alpha. Treating them like they do is just cruel and confusing.
io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629
Canada and Trudeau still let baby seals have their skulls smashed to bits with clubs.
www.hsi.org/assets/pdfs/myths_and_facts_seal_hunt.pdf
relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2017/04/wildlife-watch-canada-harp-seal-hunt
www.thedodo.com/amphtml/canada-seal-hunt-2333758471.html
m.ruclips.net/video/XCYf9q9t9bo/видео.html
Don't feed birds bread, or cats cows' milk or cheese. Bread has no nutritional value for birds, it just stops them from eating useful food, and cats are lactose intolerant.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1953493/Royal-Society-for-the-Protection-of-Birds-RSPB-says-to-ban-bread-as-bird-food.html
www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-cant-cats-drink-milk-plus-6-other-feline-myths/
pets.webmd.com/cats/ss/slideshow-foods-your-cat-should-never-eat
Littering's disgusting. Other animals have to walk on that floor, and right next to your rubbish. They don't want to do that. Don't be a selfish cunt.
Balloons, Chinese lanterns, glitter, sequins, and microbeads don't decompose. They stay in the environment, and end up being swallowed by other animals.
Having human-level intelligence doesn't somehow stop you being an animal. That makes no sense, whatsoever. It's specifically because you're an animal that you can have human-level intelligence. It is a trait of animals because an animal has it: humans. Everything we do is, by definition, animalistic, because we are animals.
Everything humans do is by definition animalistic, because humans are animals. There's no distinction. Being an animal isn't an insult. It's awesome. It's what lets you be you.
Intelligence doesn't make one animal more special than another. That's just a trait humans have. It's no better than running fast or jumping high. Evolution has no will. It's not trying to make other animals more human-like. A slug is as evolved as we are. A slug got it right.
It doesn't make you inherently better at all, and saying that totally disregards how stupid and evil humans are. It's nonsensical. That's human ego. The second an alien race arrives that's more intelligent than we are, you people will move the goalposts for what it means to be more special. You say it not because it's true, but because it currently benefits you.
You can't own another living thing. They're not consumer goods to be bought and sold. They're not property. They're above monetary value. They're not toys for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. There'd be outrage if humans were treated like property. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. We're not their owners, we're their parents.
Pet isn't an insult. That's horrible. A pet is an animal of another species, in your family, that you care for. They're your children, and brothers, and sisters, and nieces, and nephews, and cousins, not some ornament to have around for novelty, that you only pay attention to when you're bored. Species is irrelevant to family.
You wouldn't do it to humans, so don't do it to other animals. It's that simple.
No one has the right to make fun of, or hurt, or abuse, or exploit, or murder, any other animal, for any reason.
Do what is right, not what is easy.
Humans are animals, and no more special than any other creature.
#AnimalCruelty #AnimalAbuse #AnimalWelfare #AnimalRights #AdoptDontShop #OptToAdopt
It's not respectable to talk about murdering other animals. You wouldn't say that about a Nazi: ""oh, well at least they're talking about their evil, murderous ways with prose and decorum!" Fuck off. It's evil. Money sent from murder is irrelevant. It's about the other animals, not some fucking money. You're still murdering a living thing. The ends don't justify the means. It's evil.
Joe Rogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Goldust, and Ted DiBiase Jr. are murderers. Fishing and other hunting is murder. Other animals' lives aren't your playthings. Leave other animals alone. Other animals aren't toys to dress up and pose for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. Leave other animals alone. Humans have a serious lack of empathy when it comes to other animals. They're not mindless machines. Their emotions aren't muted. Human ego is disgusting.
Only animals of human-level intelligence are capable of evil. Humans aren't more special or important than other animals. You're not better by definition. Fuck you.
There are far too many animals in orphanages, many kill orphanages, some gas chamber orphanages, to justify breeding/buying from breeders. They're #NotProperty to be bought/sold. Adopt. They'll show you how full of love life is. Save their life, and they'll save yours.
It's not euthanasia. It's not done for their benefit. It's murder. Imagine the outrage if humans who weren't being adopted were killed. It's no different for other animals.
Other animals don't have "vets". They have doctors, and health and medical care. Just like humans. There's no distinction. There'd be outrage if different humans had different doctors and terms depending on their race. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism.
People spend money on war rather than helping other animals. Medical care should be socialised, like humans have.
Caring for other animals isn't a chore, it's a duty and privilege.
Other animals don't belong in the entertainment industry. Not only is it extremely stressful for them, and wild animals are abused until they submit to human will, but how dare you deprive them of their life. Elephants that do tricks and give rides aren't happy. They do it out of fear of what happens if they refuse. Swimming with dolphins isn't a good activity. It's extremely stressful for them, and leads to them catching diseases. They're viewed as tools for profit, nothing else.
Other apes, monkeys, and horses used on cards smiling because they're happy. Other apes and monkeys do what's called a "fear grimace", while horses smile in submission. They're not happy, they're abused.
Freedom is what matters in life. You wouldn't trade freedom for comfort and safety, and you have no right to force that on other animals.
Experimenting on other animals is vile. How dare you cause such immense suffering and murder. You're birthing them to torture them. What a miserable existence. That constant, unending torture is unimaginable for most people.
Fireworks and other explosions are horrible. Other animals, like cats, dogs, and birds, get absolutely terrified by fireworks. Causing such intense, unending fear is unjustifiable.
Oreos and Doritos use #ConflictPalmOil, leading to extinction of countless species, such as orangutans. 25 orangutans are murdered every day for unsustainable palm oil production.
www.ran.org/publications/conflict_palm_oil_the_human_cost_of_conflict_palm_oil/
6gupp2m546k1gbxng1rlf2m3-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ShoppingList-v3-Nov-2018.pdf
Leather's disgusting. Other animals, especially cows, suffer tremendously for leather production. It's not just a by-product of the meat industry.
www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/leather-is-more-than-a-by-product-of-the-meat-industry/
www.care2.com/causes/the-shocking-truth-about-leather-no-its-not-a-meat-byproduct.html
amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/27/ethicalfashion.leather
Fur and down are the result of immense torture and horrific murder.
relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2016/08/wildlife-china-fur-farming-welfare
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fur-farms-animal-welfare-cruelty-cannibalism-mink-foxes-coat-jacket-a8647616.html?amp
www.furfreealliance.com/severe-animal-cruelty-polish-fur-farms-revealed/
www.thedodo.com/amphtml/fur-farms-stop-the-cruelty-1527692086.html
www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/here-are-the-innocent-faces-of-the-cruel-fur-industry/
www.onegreenplanet.org/news/top-brands-using-fur-from-monster-foxes/
Wool is a product of abuse, just like fur, angora, and mohair, not just in the East, but western nations like America, the UK, and Australia, too.
www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/a-wool-jumper-is-just-as-cruel-as-a-mink-coat-9610133.html?amp
Dogs and wolves don't have a strict hierarchy with an alpha. Treating them like they do is just cruel and confusing.
io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629
Canada and Trudeau still let baby seals have their skulls smashed to bits with clubs.
www.hsi.org/assets/pdfs/myths_and_facts_seal_hunt.pdf
relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2017/04/wildlife-watch-canada-harp-seal-hunt
www.thedodo.com/amphtml/canada-seal-hunt-2333758471.html
m.ruclips.net/video/XCYf9q9t9bo/видео.html
Don't feed birds bread, or cats cows' milk or cheese. Bread has no nutritional value for birds, it just stops them from eating useful food, and cats are lactose intolerant.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1953493/Royal-Society-for-the-Protection-of-Birds-RSPB-says-to-ban-bread-as-bird-food.html
www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-cant-cats-drink-milk-plus-6-other-feline-myths/
pets.webmd.com/cats/ss/slideshow-foods-your-cat-should-never-eat
Littering's disgusting. Other animals have to walk on that floor, and right next to your rubbish. They don't want to do that. Don't be a selfish cunt.
Balloons, Chinese lanterns, glitter, sequins, and microbeads don't decompose. They stay in the environment, and end up being swallowed by other animals.
Having human-level intelligence doesn't somehow stop you being an animal. That makes no sense, whatsoever. It's specifically because you're an animal that you can have human-level intelligence. It is a trait of animals because an animal has it: humans. Everything we do is, by definition, animalistic, because we are animals.
Everything humans do is by definition animalistic, because humans are animals. There's no distinction. Being an animal isn't an insult. It's awesome. It's what lets you be you.
Intelligence doesn't make one animal more special than another. That's just a trait humans have. It's no better than running fast or jumping high. Evolution has no will. It's not trying to make other animals more human-like. A slug is as evolved as we are. A slug got it right.
It doesn't make you inherently better at all, and saying that totally disregards how stupid and evil humans are. It's nonsensical. That's human ego. The second an alien race arrives that's more intelligent than we are, you people will move the goalposts for what it means to be more special. You say it not because it's true, but because it currently benefits you.
You can't own another living thing. They're not consumer goods to be bought and sold. They're not property. They're above monetary value. They're not toys for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. There'd be outrage if humans were treated like property. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. We're not their owners, we're their parents.
Pet isn't an insult. That's horrible. A pet is an animal of another species, in your family, that you care for. They're your children, and brothers, and sisters, and nieces, and nephews, and cousins, not some ornament to have around for novelty, that you only pay attention to when you're bored. Species is irrelevant to family.
You wouldn't do it to humans, so don't do it to other animals. It's that simple.
No one has the right to make fun of, or hurt, or abuse, or exploit, or murder, any other animal, for any reason.
Do what is right, not what is easy.
Humans are animals, and no more special than any other creature.
#AnimalCruelty #AnimalAbuse #AnimalWelfare #AnimalRights #AdoptDontShop #OptToAdopt
@@Ranger1812 If Poeple stopped eating animals then they would have no need for them and they would all be replaced with plant farms.
1:15🤣🤣🤣
"Oh, there's a bike. That looks delightful. OW, my brain!"
Siobhan O'Connor +
There are no pain receptors in the brain...👀
Is your name pronounced Shivon ?
That part cracked me up 😂😂 R.B is such a character!
@@adamdsouza2892: yeah, why?
I'm a hunter! Great conversation with Russell! I like his side too! Cheer's
God damn Russel Brand, respect. That was incredibly open minded and articulate while still maintaining a light and honest tone.
jack fraser Level the hunting field.....take away the guns.....and knives
Princess Chewie that’s cool take them away. Bow hunting is a bit more challenging but just as effective lol.
jack fraser he seems to be a great guy. He gets shit on for whatever reason.
Joe "I can eat an Elk for 8 months" Rogan
Yeah,elk have a lot of meat
Its true lol
Anumanti yeah I shot an Elk this year and I still have meat form the Elk I shot last year
@@noahbergman7777 But no one hunts Deer on a bike lmao
@@gb342002 some of us do.. Great way to cover ground quickly and sent free...
Russel ascended to his final form.. British Jesus.
Its OVER 9000!!!
Hes ronchi af tho
I'm a pita person, people that eat tasty animals I enjoy your show for me. I respect you for listening to both sides and for standing your ground. I also enjoyed you in the Fear Factor.
Sidenote: If Russell Brand was the voice of every opposing view we ever had this world would be such a better place.
No hes just underselling his own argument to capitulate to what most people believe.
@@gangliums Can I hear a steelman version of his argument? Thanks.
gangliums Ok dude 😂
Honestly, he has the type of vegan attitude that would be nice to engage with rather that shouting and criticising others, I'm vegan and in all honesty agree with Joe, if I lived in the bush, near a wild river or something I probably would eat animals every now and then, but what a pleasure seeing a civil conversation between two such differing opinions, well done gentlemen, well done
You sound a lot like my bestie who’s a vegan. She doesn’t push her beliefs on others and more objects to factory farming and trophy hunting etc
@@laurafedora5385 that’s exactly what I try to do, everyone is on their own path and needs to choose for themselves but ya, factory farming and how animals are treated is pretty much where I draw the line, I just personally can’t be a part of it 😌
You should look up Jordan Peterson talking to Russell
@Heloise O'Byrne I get the same reaction all the time, the type of angry vegans yelling at people just wind me right up lol
Exactly. It's a shame since people like you and the people who responded to this comment (or the friends they're talking about) make up the majority of vegans. However, it's these "activists" like that vegan teacher and stuff that get the most attention and people assume that's what's all vegans are like. They don't realise that yelling at people and calling them evil and stuff is just discouraging people from wanting to become vegan and causing more hate to the idea. I personally am not vegan but I can see that the world will never be at a sustainable and humane rate of meat consumption due to these people making bad names for the cause.
I love how Russel summarizes and analyses/expands Joe's arguments at the end...quite brilliant honestly.
John Steele that was my favorite part too.
That's how understanding works, in school it was called "put it in your own words." It's sad that it is so rare nowadays
@@nickniehaus1763 It's also called Civility, something they stopped teaching in school years ago. This is a prime example of two guys having a civil discussion about a topic they disagree on without the "gotcha moments" or political rhetoric. Refreshing.
It's not respectable to talk about murdering other animals. You wouldn't say that about a Nazi: ""oh, well at least they're talking about their evil, murderous ways with prose and decorum!" Fuck off. It's evil. Money sent from murder is irrelevant. It's about the other animals, not some fucking money. You're still murdering a living thing. The ends don't justify the means. It's evil.
Joe Rogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar, Goldust, and Ted DiBiase Jr. are murderers. Fishing and other hunting is murder. Other animals' lives aren't your playthings. Leave other animals alone. Other animals aren't toys to dress up and pose for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. Leave other animals alone. Humans have a serious lack of empathy when it comes to other animals. They're not mindless machines. Their emotions aren't muted. Human ego is disgusting.
Only animals of human-level intelligence are capable of evil. Humans aren't more special or important than other animals. You're not better by definition. Fuck you.
There are far too many animals in orphanages, many kill orphanages, some gas chamber orphanages, to justify breeding/buying from breeders. They're #NotProperty to be bought/sold. Adopt. They'll show you how full of love life is. Save their life, and they'll save yours.
It's not euthanasia. It's not done for their benefit. It's murder. Imagine the outrage if humans who weren't being adopted were killed. It's no different for other animals.
Other animals don't have "vets". They have doctors, and health and medical care. Just like humans. There's no distinction. There'd be outrage if different humans had different doctors and terms depending on their race. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism.
People spend money on war rather than helping other animals. Medical care should be socialised, like humans have.
Caring for other animals isn't a chore, it's a duty and privilege.
Other animals don't belong in the entertainment industry. Not only is it extremely stressful for them, and wild animals are abused until they submit to human will, but how dare you deprive them of their life. Elephants that do tricks and give rides aren't happy. They do it out of fear of what happens if they refuse. Swimming with dolphins isn't a good activity. It's extremely stressful for them, and leads to them catching diseases. They're viewed as tools for profit, nothing else.
Other apes, monkeys, and horses used on cards smiling because they're happy. Other apes and monkeys do what's called a "fear grimace", while horses smile in submission. They're not happy, they're abused.
Freedom is what matters in life. You wouldn't trade freedom for comfort and safety, and you have no right to force that on other animals.
Experimenting on other animals is vile. How dare you cause such immense suffering and murder. You're birthing them to torture them. What a miserable existence. That constant, unending torture is unimaginable for most people.
Fireworks and other explosions are horrible. Other animals, like cats, dogs, and birds, get absolutely terrified by fireworks. Causing such intense, unending fear is unjustifiable.
Oreos and Doritos use #ConflictPalmOil, leading to extinction of countless species, such as orangutans. 25 orangutans are murdered every day for unsustainable palm oil production.
www.ran.org/publications/conflict_palm_oil_the_human_cost_of_conflict_palm_oil/
6gupp2m546k1gbxng1rlf2m3-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ShoppingList-v3-Nov-2018.pdf
Leather's disgusting. Other animals, especially cows, suffer tremendously for leather production. It's not just a by-product of the meat industry.
www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/leather-is-more-than-a-by-product-of-the-meat-industry/
www.care2.com/causes/the-shocking-truth-about-leather-no-its-not-a-meat-byproduct.html
amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/aug/27/ethicalfashion.leather
Fur and down are the result of immense torture and horrific murder.
relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2016/08/wildlife-china-fur-farming-welfare
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/fur-farms-animal-welfare-cruelty-cannibalism-mink-foxes-coat-jacket-a8647616.html?amp
www.furfreealliance.com/severe-animal-cruelty-polish-fur-farms-revealed/
www.thedodo.com/amphtml/fur-farms-stop-the-cruelty-1527692086.html
www.onegreenplanet.org/animalsandnature/here-are-the-innocent-faces-of-the-cruel-fur-industry/
www.onegreenplanet.org/news/top-brands-using-fur-from-monster-foxes/
Wool is a product of abuse, just like fur, angora, and mohair, not just in the East, but western nations like America, the UK, and Australia, too.
www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/a-wool-jumper-is-just-as-cruel-as-a-mink-coat-9610133.html?amp
Dogs and wolves don't have a strict hierarchy with an alpha. Treating them like they do is just cruel and confusing.
io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629
Canada and Trudeau still let baby seals have their skulls smashed to bits with clubs.
www.hsi.org/assets/pdfs/myths_and_facts_seal_hunt.pdf
relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/2017/04/wildlife-watch-canada-harp-seal-hunt
www.thedodo.com/amphtml/canada-seal-hunt-2333758471.html
m.ruclips.net/video/XCYf9q9t9bo/видео.html
Don't feed birds bread, or cats cows' milk or cheese. Bread has no nutritional value for birds, it just stops them from eating useful food, and cats are lactose intolerant.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1953493/Royal-Society-for-the-Protection-of-Birds-RSPB-says-to-ban-bread-as-bird-food.html
www.sciencefocus.com/nature/why-cant-cats-drink-milk-plus-6-other-feline-myths/
pets.webmd.com/cats/ss/slideshow-foods-your-cat-should-never-eat
Littering's disgusting. Other animals have to walk on that floor, and right next to your rubbish. They don't want to do that. Don't be a selfish cunt.
Balloons, Chinese lanterns, glitter, sequins, and microbeads don't decompose. They stay in the environment, and end up being swallowed by other animals.
Having human-level intelligence doesn't somehow stop you being an animal. That makes no sense, whatsoever. It's specifically because you're an animal that you can have human-level intelligence. It is a trait of animals because an animal has it: humans. Everything we do is, by definition, animalistic, because we are animals.
Everything humans do is by definition animalistic, because humans are animals. There's no distinction. Being an animal isn't an insult. It's awesome. It's what lets you be you.
Intelligence doesn't make one animal more special than another. That's just a trait humans have. It's no better than running fast or jumping high. Evolution has no will. It's not trying to make other animals more human-like. A slug is as evolved as we are. A slug got it right.
It doesn't make you inherently better at all, and saying that totally disregards how stupid and evil humans are. It's nonsensical. That's human ego. The second an alien race arrives that's more intelligent than we are, you people will move the goalposts for what it means to be more special. You say it not because it's true, but because it currently benefits you.
You can't own another living thing. They're not consumer goods to be bought and sold. They're not property. They're above monetary value. They're not toys for your amusement, or tools for you to use as you please. There'd be outrage if humans were treated like property. It's no different for other animals. That's speciesism. We're not their owners, we're their parents.
Pet isn't an insult. That's horrible. A pet is an animal of another species, in your family, that you care for. They're your children, and brothers, and sisters, and nieces, and nephews, and cousins, not some ornament to have around for novelty, that you only pay attention to when you're bored. Species is irrelevant to family.
You wouldn't do it to humans, so don't do it to other animals. It's that simple.
No one has the right to make fun of, or hurt, or abuse, or exploit, or murder, any other animal, for any reason.
Do what is right, not what is easy.
Humans are animals, and no more special than any other creature.
#AnimalCruelty #AnimalAbuse #AnimalWelfare #AnimalRights #AdoptDontShop #OptToAdopt
@Ben Tarr I hope this is a copy pasta