Let’s stop making excuses for terrible people A**holes We all deal with things differently, however you can still be respectful towards people. No matter what we go through we need to be aware of how we treat one another. Some ppl don’t change no matter how you treat them.
@@queenbutterfly4888I have a co worker cussing me out on WhatsApp and trying to fight me and trying to intimidating me I'm doing security job it's really a lot. He says he knows MMA he said I'm gossiping 😂
I’ve dealt with an aggressive (narcissistic) colleague and I just grey rocked him. I never provoked him nor did I engage in his anger. Eventually his behavior was recognized by others and management ended up firing him. Apparently others didn’t like his aggression either. The garbage will take out itself eventually.
My first job was like this. I ended up leaving and got a better position and higher income. People don't change and it's not your job to make them change.
I have been bullied and have talked to lawyers, the EEOC and the Labor board. Even though it's immoral, it is NOT ILLEGAL!! So just being bullied by a coworker or boss is not a reason you can sue. Sick if you ask me, because it's a situation that you cannot get away from without paying a price of your own.
Quitting is the dumbest idea ever!! Why kind people shall leave?? Somewhere is not gonna be any better!! Toxic people are everywhere and they are the ones that have to go!!!!!!
I thought Dave did OK here actually! I've seen Dave really grow over the years, maybe by Delony's influence. I don't see anything John would say that Dave didn't. The Bible is the best teacher of all.
There's one at my job. She's the golden cow. Her behavior is ignored because of her accomplishments. She also realizes that she can be as nasty and as bad as she wants of there are no witnesses
When things like this happen, you have the responsibility to nip it in the bud immediately. If you choose not to it will continue to escalate. She doesn't own the desk she's works at nor the Staples or paper clips. When I speak with her and tell her that her tone is not office friendly, I would do so with a smile!
I've been in the reverse situation. Corporate forced our business to create a lead position for our team none of us wanted it but since I was the lowest seniority I was told I would be let go to hire an external person lead lead if no one accepted. So I ended up accepting (we were in the middle of buying a home). Even though no one else wanted it several people really pushed back when I started doing my new job, ensuring they did theirs within compliance, including moving things to hard to reach places and in ways that were damaging our office supplies and it took time out of the day to fix. Luckily I got a chance to leave.
Myra, don't worry about it. Just move on. It's the offices loss. This lady's negative attitude is probably a big contributor to her original cancer and her big C relapse. She won't make another year or two with a negative mindset anyway. Leave. You don't need the grief.
Been there before with these workplace bullies, but I was this woman’s supervisor and I went to management and they were no help. Had to leave that department.
I would tell my boss “it’s either me or her and if it’s her I quit”. Wouldn’t hurt throwing a ultimatum, just make sure you are out working her at the time of the ultimatum and be kind at the same time
First, you need to respect her work space (i.e. cubical, desk, and etc.) You mentioned among others of leaving your hand lotion on her desk. RESPECT! Do that and it should NOT be like walking on eggshell. You do NOT have to like the person ... but, be PROFESSIONAL. If the situation does NOT change, notify leadership again. If you resign your position, mention this situation on your EXIT interview! Once again, be PROFESSIONAL and you will be RESPECTED.
There is a problem of lack of respect and professionalism in the workplace today which I find happens all too often and is considered the norm. Your comment is dead on and others need to hear this and apply it to the work place and everyone will be much happier and more productive. Everyone deserves respect it works both ways. Stop focusing on poor me
@@stephaniebrydun1851 I see that too many times, "Poor me!" Playing the victim like they are completely innocent. You need to take accountability on both sides. The OLD Sarge!
Yikes. It is her desk as well since she also does the job and shares the work space. Why shouldn’t she leave a hand lotion on the desk she is assigned to work at? “ReSpEcT” - yeah, ok. You sound like the type of miserable coworker she’s talking about.
@@katiejon17 The conversation did NOT sound like a SHARED desk. That is a different issue. I never had that problem, I had more STRIPES ... The OLD Sarge
@@richardlane1130 🙄My father retired as a senior chief in charge of a dive locker... your type doesn’t deal with confidence, but with insecurities. USING CAPITAL letters to TRY and SHOW AUTHORITY online 🤣 Get down with yo bad self.
She is obviously dealing with one of the nastiest diseases, so I would take that into consideration. But I've been dealing with serious stuff too and you would never tell. Always professional, respectful and nice. You should try not to make your surroundings suffer for something that they have no involvement in.
I'd lose my job before I had to cope with a difficult employee. No one should have to put up with their crap and if they try bullying me, I'd cuss them out.
I am so glad that I work remotely. It was not only was the best decision I made in my life; it changed my life for the better. It allowed me to travel and work remotely anywhere in the world. I worked with angry aggressive people in the past. I am so glad that is behind me now. It is not worth putting your mental health on the line. Trust me
I am the newbie at my job, although I am a skilled medical professional. During my first week of training, one of the leads became pretty aggressive with me. At first I thought maybe that was her usual tone (talks very loud to make a point, kind of accusatory), but have realized that it seems to be only with me. I rotate through several locations and this is the ONLY person in the whole company that speaks to me like this, so I am making the case that it's not me. So I rotate back to her department and again yesterday I get the accusatory tone about something. Since she is the lead at this location, I cannot simply go over her head with a complaint about her behavior. And if I ask to NOT rotate there, I will have to explain why and I am not good at making up stories. If I quit over one bad actor, I will have to pay back a huge sign on bonus and put my whole life in upheaval, not to mention the way it looks to quit a job in 90 days... anyone got any ideas??
Years ago I shared a desk with another part timer. I left the calculator on overnight once. When I came in on my next day, the calculator was gone and a post it note was in it’s place. It read: Since you can’t remember to turn off the calculator, I’ll take it home with me every night. 😜
Good bosses in a meeting make it very clear that if I catch you acting like a jerk with your co-workers security is going to walk you out. H.R. backs them up. There is no place for silent treatment, avoiding eye contact, sarcasm or raising ones voice. You do that kind of thing and you should be fired immediately.
I would say pray for her and ask is she ok! Just like David said if it’s part time leave. I hate this situation for her and pray it get better for her. Myra just ask if it’s something you can help her with and it’s like you work with Oscar the Grouch! Stay Strong 💪 💪
@@mirabella2154 I was mostly joking here, but I guess if she had said, should I quit my job bc of the aggressive coworker that would be more fitting. Lol
@@shaynesbuzzworld3391 The first opening line of every show ever is, and has been for some time, "helping you with your LIFE and money". Clearly the website is due an update. Lol.
I don't understand why people put so much responsibility on the victim to do the right thing and make so much excuses for the abuser. Help me to understand this?
If one is naturally a nice person that attitude remains even when they are sick. If one isn't a nice or good person, their attitude or behavior gets worse when they are sick. That's the truth
I've know people who have cancer and they don't take out their fears on their coworkers. They were still nice and professional at work. This lady is just old and bitter. Cancer didn't change her personality.
Mr. Ramsey at about the 20 second mark in the conversation: "How many many freakin' times have I heard this story? ....Well, let's see how the UT Tennessee spring football team is doing? ....Hey, wow, look at that: mutual fund is up again this morning....man, I'm getting hungry."
another perspective: (a) an old worker feels that a new one tries to take her place and is simply protective/cautious; (b) the new one may be incompetent and messes up a lot, but didn't realize it
Let’s stop making excuses for terrible people
A**holes
We all deal with things differently, however you can still be respectful towards people.
No matter what we go through we need to be aware of how we treat one another.
Some ppl don’t change no matter how you treat them.
Those rude people need to be dealt with! Stop telling people to cope with bullies!!
Agreed
@@queenbutterfly4888I have a co worker cussing me out on WhatsApp and trying to fight me and trying to intimidating me I'm doing security job it's really a lot. He says he knows MMA he said I'm gossiping 😂
I’ve dealt with an aggressive (narcissistic) colleague and I just grey rocked him. I never provoked him nor did I engage in his anger. Eventually his behavior was recognized by others and management ended up firing him. Apparently others didn’t like his aggression either. The garbage will take out itself eventually.
you are lucky, federal govt it will be there forever
@@BweltaCaille absolutely right. I resigned after 18 months to much BS and life is to short
Amen. Let all aggressive coworkers be fired and left to the birds.
Nice
HR Department
My first job was like this. I ended up leaving and got a better position and higher income. People don't change and it's not your job to make them change.
Lawsuit waiting to happen! Workplace bullies are the worst
sorry for my ignorance but why would there be a lawsuit??
@@bluedemon150Because bullies go through extreme lengths. I had a boss who would use racial slurs. And I am not kidding.
I have been bullied and have talked to lawyers, the EEOC and the Labor board. Even though it's immoral, it is NOT ILLEGAL!! So just being bullied by a coworker or boss is not a reason you can sue. Sick if you ask me, because it's a situation that you cannot get away from without paying a price of your own.
Quitting is the dumbest idea ever!! Why kind people shall leave?? Somewhere is not gonna be any better!! Toxic people are everywhere and they are the ones that have to go!!!!!!
But they don't
His advice was terrible lol
Probably would have been better suited to call Ken Coleman or Dr. John Delony for this one.
I thought Dave did OK here actually! I've seen Dave really grow over the years, maybe by Delony's influence. I don't see anything John would say that Dave didn't. The Bible is the best teacher of all.
Dave has hired a huge team of people over the years though!
I’ve seen a situation similar address by Ken a few weeks ago
Dave is more entertaining though.
In Dave's mind: Will this lady hurry up so I can get to the point where I say sell the car
Sell the bully
Ahh yes
There's one at my job. She's the golden cow. Her behavior is ignored because of her accomplishments. She also realizes that she can be as nasty and as bad as she wants of there are no witnesses
When things like this happen, you have the responsibility to nip it in the bud immediately. If you choose not to it will continue to escalate. She doesn't own the desk she's works at nor the Staples or paper clips. When I speak with her and tell her that her tone is not office friendly, I would do so with a smile!
I've been in the reverse situation. Corporate forced our business to create a lead position for our team none of us wanted it but since I was the lowest seniority I was told I would be let go to hire an external person lead lead if no one accepted. So I ended up accepting (we were in the middle of buying a home). Even though no one else wanted it several people really pushed back when I started doing my new job, ensuring they did theirs within compliance, including moving things to hard to reach places and in ways that were damaging our office supplies and it took time out of the day to fix. Luckily I got a chance to leave.
Myra, don't worry about it. Just move on. It's the offices loss. This lady's negative attitude is probably a big contributor to her original cancer and her big C relapse. She won't make another year or two with a negative mindset anyway. Leave. You don't need the grief.
Document, document & document. Names, dates, phrases, witnesses & locations.
👍
Bullies are cowards.
Been there before with these workplace bullies, but I was this woman’s supervisor and I went to management and they were no help. Had to leave that department.
Happens way to often.
I took early retirement due to workplace aggression.
ugh. I am the new person at a job and facing this...
You leave one workplace with a toxic environment or bully to walk into another one. Sometimes it’s better the devil you know and stay where you are.
I agree. Always running when there's issues won't help. There will always be issues and eventually you won't have many places to run to.
I would tell my boss “it’s either me or her and if it’s her I quit”. Wouldn’t hurt throwing a ultimatum, just make sure you are out working her at the time of the ultimatum and be kind at the same time
I'm a nurse I work in the hen houses they hen peck each other to death, it's crazy.
😆😂😂😂 True! Especially over the smallest things, like their pen.
Same
Yep, healthcare is terrible. Nurses eat their young and bullies are everywhere.
Love the way Rachel ribs Dave when she gets the compliment for her show.
In the words of Dalton from Roadhouse: Be nice, until it’s time to not be nice.
Never confront an angry co-worker unless you are good friends. If you feel things are getting hostile, see HR.
HR is a joke, they side with the aggressors and those who have been with the company longer.
I can relate to this lady so much
First, you need to respect her work space (i.e. cubical, desk, and etc.) You mentioned among others of leaving your hand lotion on her desk. RESPECT! Do that and it should NOT be like walking on eggshell. You do NOT have to like the person ... but, be PROFESSIONAL. If the situation does NOT change, notify leadership again. If you resign your position, mention this situation on your EXIT interview! Once again, be PROFESSIONAL and you will be RESPECTED.
There is a problem of lack of respect and professionalism in the workplace today which I find happens all too often and is considered the norm. Your comment is dead on and others need to hear this and apply it to the work place and everyone will be much happier and more productive. Everyone deserves respect it works both ways. Stop focusing on poor me
@@stephaniebrydun1851 I see that too many times, "Poor me!" Playing the victim like they are completely innocent. You need to take accountability on both sides. The OLD Sarge!
Yikes. It is her desk as well since she also does the job and shares the work space. Why shouldn’t she leave a hand lotion on the desk she is assigned to work at? “ReSpEcT” - yeah, ok. You sound like the type of miserable coworker she’s talking about.
@@katiejon17 The conversation did NOT sound like a SHARED desk. That is a different issue. I never had that problem, I had more STRIPES ... The OLD Sarge
@@richardlane1130 🙄My father retired as a senior chief in charge of a dive locker... your type doesn’t deal with confidence, but with insecurities. USING CAPITAL letters to TRY and SHOW AUTHORITY online 🤣 Get down with yo bad self.
Poor communication over time leads to resentment which leads to an aggressive coworker or at the very least a coworker with a bad attitude.
She is obviously dealing with one of the nastiest diseases, so I would take that into consideration. But I've been dealing with serious stuff too and you would never tell. Always professional, respectful and nice.
You should try not to make your surroundings suffer for something that they have no involvement in.
I'd lose my job before I had to cope with a difficult employee. No one should have to put up with their crap and if they try bullying me, I'd cuss them out.
I am so glad that I work remotely. It was not only was the best decision I made in my life; it changed my life for the better. It allowed me to travel and work remotely anywhere in the world. I worked with angry aggressive people in the past. I am so glad that is behind me now. It is not worth putting your mental health on the line. Trust me
I am the newbie at my job, although I am a skilled medical professional. During my first week of training, one of the leads became pretty aggressive with me. At first I thought maybe that was her usual tone (talks very loud to make a point, kind of accusatory), but have realized that it seems to be only with me. I rotate through several locations and this is the ONLY person in the whole company that speaks to me like this, so I am making the case that it's not me. So I rotate back to her department and again yesterday I get the accusatory tone about something. Since she is the lead at this location, I cannot simply go over her head with a complaint about her behavior. And if I ask to NOT rotate there, I will have to explain why and I am not good at making up stories. If I quit over one bad actor, I will have to pay back a huge sign on bonus and put my whole life in upheaval, not to mention the way it looks to quit a job in 90 days... anyone got any ideas??
Be aggressive back.
Yes! I love you Ramsey!!!
A legend in her own mind 😅
Can you let her finish a sentence
It’s jealousy!
So cute Rachel’s reacción and looking at Dave. Jiji
I used to get picked on alot at work. Still do but used to too
Years ago I shared a desk with another part timer. I left the calculator on overnight once. When I came in on my next day, the calculator was gone and a post it note was in it’s place. It read: Since you can’t remember to turn off the calculator, I’ll take it home with me every night. 😜
Good bosses in a meeting make it very clear that
if I catch you acting like a jerk with your co-workers
security is going to walk you out. H.R. backs them up.
There is no place for silent treatment, avoiding eye contact, sarcasm or raising ones voice.
You do that kind of thing and you should be fired immediately.
This answer helped me so much!
report her to HR
Wont do anything.
@@MrBrewman95 everytime she act like this , report her to hr , until she becomes tired for coming back and forth to talk to hr
I would say pray for her and ask is she ok! Just like David said if it’s part time leave. I hate this situation for her and pray it get better for her. Myra just ask if it’s something you can help her with and it’s like you work with Oscar the Grouch! Stay Strong 💪 💪
I want to work for you Dave. I desire so much to work with a good leader.
He is arrogant arse, and you would want to work with him. You probably see yourself in him, likes attract big time.
The one acting mean and aggressive won’t be there long because she will be forcing everyone else out
Don't attempt kindness. Just confront them. If she escalates to violence you call 911.
Lols
Women usually do this at the job. I know several of them.
Give the lady rice and beans and one of Dave’s books, sell the car!
I wouldn't want you going through my desk and leaving lotion on it either.
How is this a personal finance question? This has turned into a self help hotline for counseling. Lol
This is a financer and life show, not just a finance show. Anyone who has ever listened to the intro of the full show would know this
@@jrwntctv8091 according to the website, the show is “practical advice for todays tough money questions.” Lol
It's a workplace situation. work=money=finances
@@mirabella2154 I was mostly joking here, but I guess if she had said, should I quit my job bc of the aggressive coworker that would be more fitting. Lol
@@shaynesbuzzworld3391 The first opening line of every show ever is, and has been for some time, "helping you with your LIFE and money". Clearly the website is due an update. Lol.
Nah cuz if you leave you will deal with it else where have to find a way to deal/settle it
I dont like he suggested her to leave her job. Not everyone has the luxury to just up and leave at their own convenience
Allot of details in this call.... would be interesting if someone in the office hears this call
This is a question for the Dr John Deloney show. Good question though.
Tell him once, politely, that you are not ok with is behavior, if it doesnt works go to HR or the inmediate boss
You misspelled HER
@@FrankS111 yup
Tell her you won’t tolerate it and go to HR if she keeps it up. Or ignore and don’t respond.
Rachel > Dave 😂. Jk Dave
This is why I’m glad I’m in the engineering profession. Hardly any women and emotional cattiness
@@ThreeorMore209 yeah, because that happens the same frequency as two women bickering at each other at work. Nice try 👌🏻
@@ThreeorMore209 You watch too much TV.
@@ThreeorMore209 Stop watching CNN
Nope, just the everyday of arrogant male engineers dealing with each other. 🙄
@@ThreeorMore209 what an ignorant comment. Exactly what a misandrist would say.
I have learned that an anonymous letter works wonders.
we're all a little aggressive where i am for now lol
Great advice! Can you give advice what to rude, passive aggressive women? Between a man a women, while HR favors the rude female coworker.
They do that because they're afraid of law suits.
I don't understand why people put so much responsibility on the victim to do the right thing and make so much excuses for the abuser. Help me to understand this?
Cancer it’s not a joke, and it affects each person differently. I would just be nice to her.
No, I think it's kind of like alcohol. Reveals her true nature.
If one is naturally a nice person that attitude remains even when they are sick. If one isn't a nice or good person, their attitude or behavior gets worse when they are sick. That's the truth
I've know people who have cancer and they don't take out their fears on their coworkers. They were still nice and professional at work.
This lady is just old and bitter. Cancer didn't change her personality.
I think that is a good place to start. But someone’s cancer should never be allowed to be used as an excuse to abuse your coworkers.
Yall making excuses
Myra talks too much.
Don’t react. Problem solved. They crave attention.
You handle her with a slap across the face. Just to teach her to respect others. :)
On a serious note - boundaries, professionalism and in some cases ignoring
Just get vaccinated!!!!!!!!! Then we won’t have to worry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Derp
Mr. Ramsey at about the 20 second mark in the conversation: "How many many freakin' times have I heard this story? ....Well, let's see how the UT Tennessee spring football team is doing? ....Hey, wow, look at that: mutual fund is up again this morning....man, I'm getting hungry."
She is a sweet lady
another perspective: (a) an old worker feels that a new one tries to take her place and is simply protective/cautious; (b) the new one may be incompetent and messes up a lot, but didn't realize it
⬇️ +➡️ + Y
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