What Is The REAL Message Behind Training Day?

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  • Опубликовано: 7 апр 2022
  • We take a look at Training Day, and explore the real message behind it. We discuss idealism vs. pessimism, and how the movie reflects our own lives.
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  • @retro9173
    @retro9173 Год назад +118

    It’s not about what you know, it’s about what you can prove is message I got out of it ..

    • @dotunkumuyi9707
      @dotunkumuyi9707 Год назад +2

      Facts 👏🏾

    • @danielsilva-ds2u
      @danielsilva-ds2u Год назад +5

      It's a good line, but not 100% true. There's more with the hit on Denzels character and how the 3 "wiseman" can be bought whether proven right or wrong.
      I take Alonzo line in this as a manipulating tactic to force Jake into doing his schemes. He wants Jake to believe that he can't beat Alonzo in this game, which was false at the end.

    • @inutero10
      @inutero10 Год назад +4

      So true. The “truth” isnt always what it seems. You can manipulate the truth to prove something.

    • @johnconway9882
      @johnconway9882 4 месяца назад +1

      Better call Saul!

  • @wealthyblackman2655
    @wealthyblackman2655 Год назад +55

    "Control your smiles and crys..." epic line.
    This movie was very representative of the military police state of Georgia and California with policing tactics in the late 80's ERA... Definitely an age focused film that created a narrative that many adults whom grew up in that violent police era could easily relate too...

  • @nonickels8975
    @nonickels8975 Год назад +28

    The real lesson is that Denzel is a generational legend, and his legacy will be timeless.

  • @andrewforte3852
    @andrewforte3852 Год назад +51

    'The moral is. Be careful what you pretend to be. Because in the end. You are what you pretend to be.'
    - KURT VONNEGUT

  • @kevins8071
    @kevins8071 Год назад +39

    Ahh, Alonzo Harris. The original Officer TenPenny. Great video. Love your work.

    • @ChillDree
      @ChillDree 7 месяцев назад

      Actually, the original tenpenny is based off a real life corrupt officer from LA in the early 90s that influenced Alonzo Harris and Tenpenny

    • @primedemarr
      @primedemarr 5 месяцев назад

      😂😂

  • @leocarnage1116
    @leocarnage1116 10 месяцев назад +18

    Also the fact that Jake earn respect of two gangs in the movie by just being good police officer meanwhile Alonzo only had the bloods and mexicans under his control due to fear but jake earn their respects by saving smiley cousin from being rape and the bloods by helping them not take Alonzo bullshit anymore

    • @rishtsakhiba
      @rishtsakhiba 2 месяца назад

      Obviously Jake earned the respect of these guys, he was useful to them and people close to him, and not because he was a good guy.

    • @checotey
      @checotey 2 месяца назад +1

      @@rishtsakhiba he earned their respect because of the actions mentioned above. this being useful to them is not a factor anymore.

  • @Filmation77
    @Filmation77 Год назад +18

    Every Great Villian thinks they're the actual hero in the story. but when he meets his end, he finally realizes that no one Respected him at all and he got His

    • @johnconway9882
      @johnconway9882 4 месяца назад +3

      Denzel Washington plays an incredibly convincing villain.
      Normally, before I see a film, I'll read up a little so I'll have some idea what's going on. For some reason, 21 years ago, I went to see this film with zero foreknowledge of the plot or characters. I simply thought this would be a case of a veteran detective showing a young protégé how to police the streets. Imagine how surprised I was to see Alonzo Harris slowly reveal himself to be much more than an avant-garde unconventional detective, ultimately committing murder and rationalizing his reasons.

  • @user-hv6sb3kg9g
    @user-hv6sb3kg9g Год назад +54

    I can't believe this movie is 21 yrs old already...excuse me, CLASSIC!

    • @jaya1000
      @jaya1000 Год назад

      Its in my top 10 to this day. Alonzo is based on the cop who is rumored to be responsible for the assasination of tupac

    • @TannerisSmol97
      @TannerisSmol97 Год назад

      @@jaya1000 20 isn't long enough to be a classic you weasel

    • @mr.commenter7953
      @mr.commenter7953 11 месяцев назад +1

      That's literally my age!

    • @youtubeviolatedme7123
      @youtubeviolatedme7123 11 месяцев назад +1

      unironically a certified hood classic

  • @rodrigobarba930
    @rodrigobarba930 Год назад +11

    Don't train with Denzel

  • @ChefSpicyRice
    @ChefSpicyRice Год назад +9

    Your videos are quick and to the point. I'd be interested in watching some long form movie breakdowns as well! Overall great video tho

  • @curtismatthews3113
    @curtismatthews3113 8 месяцев назад +9

    I really think Alonzo started off as a good cop like Jake. But started to be groomed into the business by the higher ups. Proably had financial troubles and wanted to make more money. I do believe the 3 wisman that he had a meeting with at that high scale resteraunt most likely groomed him into the business over years of having Alonzo do things off the books that don't sit well with real law. Working under guys like that with that position of power could easily influence a rookie cop to turn bad.

    • @slj3332
      @slj3332 7 месяцев назад

      Those people I believe were the russian mob. He had gotten into a fight and killed one their members

    • @KshonDaModern
      @KshonDaModern 7 месяцев назад +1

      it makes sense because rogger had said to Alonzo that he was they bitch, so good observation

    • @curtismatthews3113
      @curtismatthews3113 7 месяцев назад +1

      @KshonDaModern They making me do it, I'm just a loanly civil servant 🤣. The drug dealer cop has been in the business long enough to know how the 3 Wiseman operate

    • @KshonDaModern
      @KshonDaModern 7 месяцев назад

      @@curtismatthews3113 😅😅😆😆

  • @CarsonDouglas
    @CarsonDouglas 3 месяца назад +2

    Alonzo was a cerebral/malignant narcissist. He love bombed, devalued and attempted to discard Jake. He gas lit jake when all else failed. I can point out all the scenes where this behavior takes place. Ive watch this movie 50 times or more.

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +8

    You know what's so crazy when I first heard about training day I thought it was a football movie I'm like I don't want to watch that so it took me a while for me to get a chance to watch it then when I finally did realize it was not a football movie this movie was really good

    • @EvilDick1995
      @EvilDick1995 6 месяцев назад

      lol that’s funny. My brother thought the movie Alpha Dog was a movie about talking dogs.

  • @davidmcconnell9666
    @davidmcconnell9666 5 месяцев назад +1

    There’s no message other than a sociopath who got caught up in too many schemes and feared for his own life was so cocky he thought he would somehow weasel out of it as he had his whole life

  • @thinkpioneering9922
    @thinkpioneering9922 3 месяца назад +2

    The real message was lost on the entire movie and its audience unless you watched the deleted scene about Alonzo reflecting on his first week as a rookie riding with his training officer while they observed the doberman trainer.

  • @everit6682
    @everit6682 2 года назад +24

    Your videos are amazing keep up your work

    • @MoviesConsigliere
      @MoviesConsigliere  2 года назад +6

      Glad you like them!

    • @youknowwhoyouare2269
      @youknowwhoyouare2269 Год назад +2

      It's wild how nobody noticed the fatal flaw in your argument about character development with a cop who failed to make the arrest against a crooked cop @@MoviesConsigliere

    • @youtubeviolatedme7123
      @youtubeviolatedme7123 11 месяцев назад

      @@youknowwhoyouare2269 Jake doesn't unilaterally serve justice like Alonzo does. He walks off leaving the fate of Alonzo to the streets.

  • @kenstewart7700
    @kenstewart7700 Год назад +8

    What I took from the movie is you can be a wolf in sheeps clothing all Lanzo kept saying was it takes a wolf to catch a wolf he thought Jake was a sheep but he was wrong

    • @rahsaanthomas7030
      @rahsaanthomas7030 Год назад +1

      The moment Jake told Alonzo "I'll do anything you want me to do," Alonzo thought he'd be easy to manipulate. That's what I got out of it.

  • @dancutd
    @dancutd 24 дня назад

    Hoyte and Alonzo’s relationship is similar to that of Lt Hunter and Ct Ramsey in Denzel’s other film Crimson Tide, I can’t help but think Training Day was heavily influenced by the mutiny on the SS Alabama where two characters are polar opposites of each other in terms of morals, ideals and overall character.
    One character is a by the book, well educated Rookie (Hoyte/Hunter) whilst the other an experienced veteran.

  • @diontaedaughtry974
    @diontaedaughtry974 2 года назад +9

    Great analysis 👍👍

  • @brandonrider6741
    @brandonrider6741 Год назад +2

    That "King Kong aint got sh*t on Denzel."

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +1

    I knew nothing about this movie but I'm glad I did watch it I was a teenager when this movie came out

  • @ahuxley123
    @ahuxley123 Год назад +3

    Honestly, did you watch this whole movie? He was a detective, so he wore street clothes, and the reason why he got smoked because he killed a made Russian guy in Vegas.

  • @conversemontana1768
    @conversemontana1768 Год назад +2

    I noticed something today when I rewatched it when they drove off after the neighborhood shootout the three bullet holes represent their fate

  • @-Anthracite
    @-Anthracite Год назад +6

    Jake was never a wolf he became the sheep dog alonzo was on the same path yet in a deleted scene he witnessed something and im sure a lot more experiences that made him a wolf

  • @skinglyfe
    @skinglyfe Год назад +5

    Hey man u should post more i like yr videos

  • @johnconway9882
    @johnconway9882 4 месяца назад

    After reading a few comments, it occurred to me that this film has universal appeal like the game of Football 😄. Deep thinkers are drawn to the game (and the film) because they enjoy figuring out and analyzing subplots and character traits. Those not as deep are drawn to the game (and the film) are drawn to surface elements like violence and style.

  • @natejoe9924
    @natejoe9924 Год назад +1

    Honestly it has training day in the title if you didn't know about this movie you would think that it's a football movie

  • @Ironheart73
    @Ironheart73 Год назад +1

    When someone already has you at gun point already, do not challenge their resolve. Yes, they may not kill you, but they can fire a bullet in your ass and that should be more than enough to make you reevaluate your choices

  • @mfeli5046
    @mfeli5046 Год назад +4

    Rafael Pérez & The 1997-1999 Rampart Scandal

    • @anthonypesqueira7540
      @anthonypesqueira7540 Год назад

      The license plates on the movie care have the his birthday year and initials.

    • @rahsaanthomas7030
      @rahsaanthomas7030 Год назад

      @@anthonypesqueira7540
      Well I'll be damned..

    • @rahsaanthomas7030
      @rahsaanthomas7030 Год назад

      I took a criminal justice course at LACC some years back and the instructor, a retired LAPD officer, spoke about how he trained Rapheal Perez at the academy. He spoke very highly of him at first. He knew something was odd when Perez had his own private office. After talking about the scandal, you could sense the disappointment in his tone..

  • @konstantinkoverchenko9587
    @konstantinkoverchenko9587 Год назад +9

    As with the real life rampart scandal, the higher ups never lost anything.

    • @williamshakespeare9815
      @williamshakespeare9815 Год назад

      They were mostly middle aged white dudes from the suburbs

    • @bensanders7392
      @bensanders7392 Год назад

      Did they take artistic liberty with the rampart scandal? How close was it to life in the 90s when that happened?

    • @williamshakespeare9815
      @williamshakespeare9815 Год назад

      @@bensanders7392 dont know.

  • @BIGwillTHEGAME
    @BIGwillTHEGAME Год назад +3

    RUclips Recommended

  • @BruceJohnson-om5kl
    @BruceJohnson-om5kl 2 месяца назад +1

    Detectives wear either dress shirt and slacks or two piece suits. Not a patrol officers uniform.

  • @510mobbstaeattinglobsta
    @510mobbstaeattinglobsta Год назад +6

    Never go to the jungle alone lol

  • @brandondaniels9471
    @brandondaniels9471 11 месяцев назад

    6:08 - _PREQUEL!!!_

  • @SpicyTexan64
    @SpicyTexan64 Год назад

    "Corrupt yet smooth talking"
    Actually those two things usually work well together so it's not yet. It's and.

  • @micktorrans8123
    @micktorrans8123 2 дня назад

    It feels like it should be based on a great Shakespearian or Greek story, does it tie back to anything does anyone know?

  • @FrayedGrip2371
    @FrayedGrip2371 Год назад +2

    Alonzo never hurt decent people. His bosses would kill those people.

    • @youtubeviolatedme7123
      @youtubeviolatedme7123 11 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, he did try to kill Jake by the end of the movie.

    • @Burnthealphabetpeople
      @Burnthealphabetpeople 11 месяцев назад

      He threatened to have that weed dealers girlfriend raped by hardcore gang members

    • @Burnthealphabetpeople
      @Burnthealphabetpeople 11 месяцев назад

      Some college kid selling weed dosent seem like a bad guy at all maybe a meth dealer or someone selling crack

  • @blackamerican40
    @blackamerican40 Год назад +4

    What bothered me is Denzel and Halle both won Oscars that year. A crooked cop and an uneducated struggling single mom who has to sleep with a guy for a place to stay. I didn't bring color into it but those two performances were not proud moments for the black community.

    • @amagostartdatbigfirekickba9865
      @amagostartdatbigfirekickba9865 Год назад +6

      You are looking at it the wrong way, Oscars are given for the best performance. These actors got the awards because they could act the best, it's a testament to their skills and not a social commentary on race.

  • @josephsalmonte4995
    @josephsalmonte4995 Год назад +1

    Good video but they're not partners. Jake has applied to a new unit & Alonso is the leader of that unit. This day is just a trial. Allegedly lol

  • @John-lf6lg
    @John-lf6lg Год назад

    Ok alright

  • @matsinkal
    @matsinkal Год назад

    Its dont smoke that reefer.

  • @bobhs1605
    @bobhs1605 Год назад

    My takeaway was that King Kong is not number 1

  • @KshonDaModern
    @KshonDaModern 7 месяцев назад +1

    its really no different than Batman and the joker

  • @mr.brightside2665
    @mr.brightside2665 5 месяцев назад

    This and Harsh Times were Directed by the same guy

  • @renj6531
    @renj6531 Год назад

    0:13 is that ezell ? Lol

  • @ChosenOne6666
    @ChosenOne6666 Год назад

    The real movie is based on Special Investigation Section or currently known as Detective Support Services. It was called "S.I.S." Most of those guys were taken into the CIA as OPS people.

    • @SuperMoss15
      @SuperMoss15 7 месяцев назад

      The movie was inspired by the Rampart Scandal involving C.R.A.S.H. in the '90s and Alozo was based on the corrupt police Rafael Perez who had a big part in it. The TV series based on the movie is what featured S.I.S.

    • @ChosenOne6666
      @ChosenOne6666 7 месяцев назад

      @@SuperMoss15 Wrong. Alonzo never once wore a police uniform.

    • @SuperMoss15
      @SuperMoss15 7 месяцев назад

      @@ChosenOne6666 A difference in clothing doesn't negate who Alonzo was based on. It's been stated in several articles that Perez was the inspiration.

    • @SuperMoss15
      @SuperMoss15 7 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/F8aUAu46H_g/видео.htmlsi=-OgI3IXYnaZjErcp

    • @ChosenOne6666
      @ChosenOne6666 7 месяцев назад

      @@SuperMoss15 You have severe comprehension problems. Alonzo character is based on Special Investigation Section Detective Armando Gutierrez who left LAPD to work at the CIA.

  • @korporal6498
    @korporal6498 Год назад

    How is Alonzo antisocial

  • @miguelpasamano4995
    @miguelpasamano4995 4 месяца назад

    The real message needs to be careful not to become what you swore to fight against. Jake succeeded and kept his soul and his life. Alonzo failed and lost his soul and his life.

    • @TheOnePercent-U
      @TheOnePercent-U 16 дней назад

      Damnnnn this is a good ass statement But ima make an analysis on this movie from my perspective.

  • @andydudley1775
    @andydudley1775 Год назад +1

    at no part was nathens policemen partner he was joining a team of detectives.also the end kind of roots to the posible fact he was no rookie but a plant to catch alonzo by not taking the money to the 3 wise men and booking it as evidence .and the look on thier faces when they asked about it.alonzo also explains the moment he remembers turning .when he found out a black man was paid to beat up a dog so it would hate black men .this man became evil which is abit sad as we liked him so much.

  • @jabronisauce6833
    @jabronisauce6833 Год назад

    Not about training? I mean if at the end of this story if you aren't a better cop then I don't know what will make you lol

  • @patank1826
    @patank1826 Год назад

    New Jack city

  • @my3sons386
    @my3sons386 Год назад

    That terrible grip Jake has on the gun is pathetic! You forgot to talk to that issue, because that cup and saucer grip shows true incompetency.😉😆

    • @gabrielbush6455
      @gabrielbush6455 4 месяца назад

      Nope. Cup and saucer was standard in the 80s which the film is accurately portraying.

    • @my3sons386
      @my3sons386 4 месяца назад

      @@gabrielbush6455 oh please

  • @BlueBirdsProductions
    @BlueBirdsProductions 2 месяца назад

    There is no message it's just a cool movie.
    Maybe "watch who you trust"..?

  • @lesliek6192
    @lesliek6192 Год назад

    Jake was still under the influence of drugs though so he's screwed anyway.

  • @mmabouts
    @mmabouts Год назад

    Don't smoke pcp

  • @bensanders7392
    @bensanders7392 Год назад

    Loosely based off of the rampart scandal.

  • @petewashington32
    @petewashington32 10 месяцев назад

    The real message is trust no one 😂

  • @chrisgarcia7815
    @chrisgarcia7815 Год назад

    🎉

  • @russellswindell3237
    @russellswindell3237 Год назад

    I did care for this movie, and it is cheap to make a movie of a cop who did this in real life, but we know that a lot of things were left out.