I honestly can say that them silly “judo or karate “ chops you’ve probably seen a thousand times over the years in movies can actually work. At least it did on me, lol. I got chopped as I was young, drunk and talking stupid and all I remember was waking up the next morning hungover and asking what happened. A simple chop. lol
Thanks for posting this. I was trained in ninjutsu for a short time and your video has really helped expand on how to apply some of the techniques. Training sessions can move quite fast and the way you've explained the execution of each technique is top notch for someone like me who needs more time to watch and understand. Thank you.
A lot of people forget that FS knife had a Yawara stick built in to the bottom of the fighting knife. This is the reason for the overlong brass handle, with overcarved grips. The knurled pommel at the end is meant to enhance these 5 strikes. Go back and do the 5 strikes whilst holding the FS knife, using the pommel of the knife as a striking blunt hammer face, look at yawara/ kobutan fighting methods. It will increase your understanding of Fairbairn.
This is similar to Shomen Ate in Tomiki Aikido (Shodokan Aikido). Kensington Tomiki was an expert in this technique and frequently knocked out strong opponents with this technique!
The Shuto strike works great. But the hammer fist can carry a pencil, ice pick, wooden dowl, or the like. The edge of the hand does fit better when going after that cerotic artery.
The only way you could possibly watch too much is if you keep watching while you could be actually practicing. If that's not the case, you ain't watching too much 😅
Talking of flow... If you are close enough, the upward palm strike to the chin can be continued upward so that the olecranon process of your elbow gouges the extended neck and strikes the chin. Followed through further, the elbow is set up to be brought back down on the face, and followed by clawing fingers - and then you are set up to repeat the sequence. ... and that's just using one arm. The danger with this stuff is that it could easily be lethal, so you'll end up trying not to kill your opponent, and end up in an ineffective tussle. Fairbairn's all-in fighting was never devised for self-defense. It was devised for mortal combat.
Subbed! Great content, my friend. I was a US Marine 15+ years ago so some of this is still in my memory, but if you don't use it you lose it, right? I live in Rochester, NY and young thieves are stealing hyundais and kias. Ours was stolen and I've stayed up at night for the past few days watching people (kids...) case our house. I did the adult thing and called the police when things looked concerning but I want to be able to defend our home if things escalate. I don't own guns... just swords and woodsman axes, but I don't want that kind of violence in my life anymore. Thanks for the refresher course on effective strikes! I'd rather send a teenage thug to the hospital instead of the morgue. They just don't understand what they're risking by robbing people. 🙏🙌
Well I was taught to do it with the point of the palm.one of the hardest bone body is here..it little bone ,on the pinkie hand side of the hand about a inch in of the base of the hand.try it it not 45 angle maybe a 22 angle you can hit some hard shit and not hurt your hand
Well I was taught the same way with the fingers locked out. However the angle thing is problematic.. sometimes it is about path to target. The outside thumb strike is always at 45 deg and held with the same tension.. and really it creates a perfect chop angle if you are swinging... because face it thumb strikes are not very good generally ..lol
I've learned from my time in the martial arts... when using the edge of the hand "knife hand strike" or "Chop" or whatever name you have for it ..? Try to tighten your fingers, and kind of pull the finger tips back towards the knuckles, to give the fingers a tight small arc. This should "protect" your fingers from sustaining to much damadge 🤚
Different people feel more secure with different approaches. Some like a somewhat cupped hand, others like a straight or a flagged thumb, others like fingers and thumb tucked. It’s all gravy as long as you feel secure and it does the job 👍🥊
Do you think that Fairbarin's "Scientific Self Defense" and "All In Fighting" covers his system thoroughly? I have quite enjoyed both books so far. His techniques seem very practical and would still hold up today.
These are clearly presented and the Fairbairn system refreshingly direct , but may I ask a question? 1. The attached palm strike seems very dangerous for an opponent looking to stick a knife in your guts, close up. I really don't want to dive forward in this scenario, I want my chest and stomach moving back or to the side, but not launching forward. I see the power of upward palm , but why not from a 45 degree front hand parry? Have you field tested this move against an opponent not standing like a dummy , but crazily determined to stick a knife in, close up, and doing so the milisecond he senses forward movement by you?
It’s typically against an expected draw of a weapon. Much of the uses for this are “blown cover” so historically you would be pleading your innocence etc, then crashing in as soon as you must. Have a look at some of the other videos on the channel and you’ll see some against concerted draw speeds. Nothing is ideal, but in pressure drills, outside of running away and improvised weapons, the crash just prior to the draw has had the most success for us 👍
@@TommyMooreww2combatives Many thanks for your reply. Yes, I can see how this may work to stifle a draw for a side arm or a request for papers, both world war 2 scenarios, but not against a modern urban predator with knife already in hand looking to thrust into chest as soon as you move , or even against a fast looping sucker punch punch. Have you field tested those scenarios, because I have concerns. I don’t mean to criticise because your videos are clearly explained and well executed.
@@justincole8074 that’s okay fella. We’ll much of this is a historical channel 👍. Fairbairn himself was very clear on how screwed you are against a knife. Fortunately for me, real knife scenarios have been me removing them from pupils attacking each other, and not me. Training wise and pressure drills with items like ink knives and shock knives, they’ve worked as well as anything else (say urban combatives, Kalah / Krav etc). The key theme with the chin jab (which is the one you’re focusing on here) is to take space, crash and pre empt. Which is pretty universal as a tactic, until the blade is out, and then other tactics apply of course 👍. Bear in mind that this isn’t a ‘vs knife’ orientated film - it’s just getting people used to the most common strikes of the Fairbairn system 👍
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Hi, a couple of observations. You say you prefer the EOH blow with the thumb in. Yet, when you perform it, you have the thumb out? 😀 Also, you describe the "punch like" palm heel strike as useless yet, when you demonstrated it, it appeared to be the most powerful blow thrown during the entire presentation.
He worked with the Shanghai Police department and was instrumental in their developing the first modern day S.W.A.T. He is said to have trained with the then premier expert in Yin style Pa-Kua Ch'ang. This is a difficult system to master. It is however based on a great deal of Shuai Jiao. Lots of hard work, but in the end nasty stuff. Good luck.
Anybody tried using these as described in a real fight, Squaring off, exchange, point of where Blows fly, as soon as you move your body position to get all that body mass transfer, the Guy's going to Hit you! When striking the side of the neck it's the front slope part containing all the blood vessels and Nerves that has to be hit, not the muscular side part. this can be achieved using appropriate hand shape and subterfuge with speed like a Katana sword draw across the body.
Unless it's life threatening hitting someone in the throat could get you locked up for a long time in the. Uk.I would Always try to avoid legal trouble if I can.
Okay I don’t want to sound like a troll.. but I sent this vid to a couple of coppers that I have tried to explain chops too.. they never could get it.. I sent the vid and within an hour I got a message and a call... I guess you are a better teacher on video than I am in person! One last troll.. on palm strikes.. I have done palm strikes high on the chest and dropped a thumb into the throat.. this will actually take folks off their feet.. But the bad thing about palm strikes is I crushed a bone in my wrist from the force you can generate.. I broke a door open with it.. they removed the crushed bone and now I have two numb fingers.. The palm strike draws its strength form your feet all the way up..
@@stefanschleps8758 lol no one has ever asked before!!! I was serving a search warrant and someone became armed on the other side of the door and I got excited and stupid..
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0:20 - Chop
4:55 - Forearm variant
5:50 - Chop from behind variant
6:40 - Backhanded variant
8:00 - "Jab" variant
10:40 - Chin jab
15:05 - Tiger claw
17:20 - "Matchbox hook" (Sideways hammerfist)
19:15 - Chin smash
20:40 - Conclusion
I like Fairbairn. Seems simple and practical
Thanks for simplifying Fairburn five
I honestly can say that them silly “judo or karate “ chops you’ve probably seen a thousand times over the years in movies can actually work. At least it did on me, lol.
I got chopped as I was young, drunk and talking stupid and all I remember was waking up the next morning hungover and asking what happened. A simple chop. lol
Thanks for posting this.
I was trained in ninjutsu for a short time and your video has really helped expand on how to apply some of the techniques.
Training sessions can move quite fast and the way you've explained the execution of each technique is top notch for someone like me who needs more time to watch and understand.
Thank you.
I really enjoyed your explanations, I just discovered Fairbairn system and this video really helped me to know what & how the system actually works.
A lot of people forget that FS knife had a Yawara stick built in to the bottom of the fighting knife.
This is the reason for the overlong brass handle, with overcarved grips.
The knurled pommel at the end is meant to enhance these 5 strikes.
Go back and do the 5 strikes whilst holding the FS knife, using the pommel of the knife as a striking blunt hammer face, look at yawara/ kobutan fighting methods.
It will increase your understanding of Fairbairn.
Very close to what they showed us in the Army.
Would have been awesome if Tommy Moore had been able to train together with the late
Carl Cestari in Fairbairn's Method of WWII Combatives!!!
Great video. Love your stuff.
You're absolutely amazing! Thanks for sharing.
Seems Fairbairn was the founding father of modern combat.
I've been training the Edge of Hand blow for years with the thumb out and never had problems with the fingers splaying.
Your teachings are game changers. Thank you.
Nice! Efficient and bodymechanics seem natural.
Really great descriptions of these techniques; illustrated well with full body unity and dropping power.
Thanks mate, getting your body into the shots is vital. Mass management is key!
@@TommyMooreww2combatives This seems to be true for so many sports, from tennis to the shotput.
This is similar to Shomen Ate in Tomiki Aikido (Shodokan Aikido). Kensington Tomiki was an expert in this technique and frequently knocked out strong opponents with this technique!
The Shuto strike works great. But the hammer fist can carry a pencil, ice pick, wooden dowl, or the like. The edge of the hand does fit better when going after that cerotic artery.
Great tips. Thanks, mate!
Awesome example of the system thank you 👍👍
Fairburn system comes from practical techniques from Chinese Kung Fu,Bagua.He spent time in China.
Fairbairn spent a considerable time in Shanghai, fought the Shanghai gangsters using these techniques...
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Danke!
thanks for sharing refined knowledge based on workable techniques
I don't disagree that the edge of hand should be penetrative for forward drive, but Applegate specifies that it should be a 'chopping motion'
Great Video 😎
This is what people did before it became an art.
1. strike.
If you curl your hand a little bit, to like letter C, your hand is more stiffer/harder.
Great video Tommy
Good stuff! :)
Very fascinating! Love the simplicity! I wonder if there are any reports of the use of these techniques and their effectivity from WWII veterans?
A great one is from the spy Nancy Wake who chopped a guard in the throat to make her escape from capture
@@TommyMooreww2combatives Hi, where is that mentioned?
Just ordered your book hooe its a good read with lots of pages. Can you do a video on ww1 and 2 tre h fighting an the weapons used?
Very very good lesson.
best Fairburn tutorial I have seen, and I watch far too many of these things.
Thanks mate!
The only way you could possibly watch too much is if you keep watching while you could be actually practicing.
If that's not the case, you ain't watching too much 😅
A little bit different in how we do stuff. But will still work. The guy is legit
Good stuff Sir. Thank you, but with the "match box" blow, isn't there a chance that you will "arm bar" yourself (hyper extend your elbow)?
Very similar to the Choy Lee Fut technique he mentioned called Sow Chui. You should keep a slight bend in your elbow.
17:47
Thumb is easy to dislocate when hook and uppercut
But swing connect with index knuckle is really quick
Talking of flow...
If you are close enough, the upward palm strike to the chin can be continued upward so that the olecranon process of your elbow gouges the extended neck and strikes the chin. Followed through further, the elbow is set up to be brought back down on the face, and followed by clawing fingers - and then you are set up to repeat the sequence.
... and that's just using one arm.
The danger with this stuff is that it could easily be lethal, so you'll end up trying not to kill your opponent, and end up in an ineffective tussle. Fairbairn's all-in fighting was never devised for self-defense. It was devised for mortal combat.
Old school combatives, simply old school Kung Fu. No forms, no rituals just combat.
Kung Fu without forms dont exist as far as I know.
Yi Chuan kuen has no forms that I'm aware of.. Mind fist boxing.
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It definitely works!
I’d be a little worried about hyperextending elbow doing the fourth one I believe ya called matchbox. Any advice on avoiding that if so?
Thanks again! 100% Spot On!
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Great content, my friend. I was a US Marine 15+ years ago so some of this is still in my memory, but if you don't use it you lose it, right?
I live in Rochester, NY and young thieves are stealing hyundais and kias. Ours was stolen and I've stayed up at night for the past few days watching people (kids...) case our house.
I did the adult thing and called the police when things looked concerning but I want to be able to defend our home if things escalate. I don't own guns... just swords and woodsman axes, but I don't want that kind of violence in my life anymore.
Thanks for the refresher course on effective strikes! I'd rather send a teenage thug to the hospital instead of the morgue. They just don't understand what they're risking by robbing people.
🙏🙌
Very informative 👍
Cheers fella thank you
That chin smash from the side is a great little tool for inclose then the indexing of the face is a nice add on.
The “sticking” transfers more energy into the target with the open hand blows.
Well I was taught to do it with the point of the palm.one of the hardest bone body is here..it little bone ,on the pinkie hand side of the hand about a inch in of the base of the hand.try it it not 45 angle maybe a 22 angle you can hit some hard shit and not hurt your hand
Well I was taught the same way with the fingers locked out. However the angle thing is problematic.. sometimes it is about path to target.
The outside thumb strike is always at 45 deg and held with the same tension.. and really it creates a perfect chop angle if you are swinging... because face it thumb strikes are not very good generally ..lol
Cheers, man
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I've learned from my time in the martial arts... when using the edge of the hand "knife hand strike" or "Chop" or whatever name you have for it ..? Try to tighten your fingers, and kind of pull the finger tips back towards the knuckles, to give the fingers a tight small arc. This should "protect" your fingers from sustaining to much damadge 🤚
Different people feel more secure with different approaches. Some like a somewhat cupped hand, others like a straight or a flagged thumb, others like fingers and thumb tucked. It’s all gravy as long as you feel secure and it does the job 👍🥊
Well done
Great content my friend !
Do you think that Fairbarin's "Scientific Self Defense" and "All In Fighting" covers his system thoroughly? I have quite enjoyed both books so far. His techniques seem very practical and would still hold up today.
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The system is battlefield tested and TRUE!
Great stuff. Police agree, they are coming at the end there.
good vid is that a kalash on the shelf lol
10:45 Chin jabs can be vicious
Target the base of the neck at the nerve if it is available
These are clearly presented and the Fairbairn system refreshingly direct , but may I ask a question? 1. The attached palm strike seems very dangerous for an opponent looking to stick a knife in your guts, close up. I really don't want to dive forward in this scenario, I want my chest and stomach moving back or to the side, but not launching forward. I see the power of upward palm , but why not from a 45 degree front hand parry? Have you field tested this move against an opponent not standing like a dummy , but crazily determined to stick a knife in, close up, and doing so the milisecond he senses forward movement by you?
It’s typically against an expected draw of a weapon. Much of the uses for this are “blown cover” so historically you would be pleading your innocence etc, then crashing in as soon as you must. Have a look at some of the other videos on the channel and you’ll see some against concerted draw speeds. Nothing is ideal, but in pressure drills, outside of running away and improvised weapons, the crash just prior to the draw has had the most success for us 👍
@@TommyMooreww2combatives Many thanks for your reply. Yes, I can see how this may work to stifle a draw for a side arm or a request for papers, both world war 2 scenarios, but not against a modern urban predator with knife already in hand looking to thrust into chest as soon as you move , or even against a fast looping sucker punch punch. Have you field tested those scenarios, because I have concerns. I don’t mean to criticise because your videos are clearly explained and well executed.
@@justincole8074 that’s okay fella. We’ll much of this is a historical channel 👍. Fairbairn himself was very clear on how screwed you are against a knife. Fortunately for me, real knife scenarios have been me removing them from pupils attacking each other, and not me. Training wise and pressure drills with items like ink knives and shock knives, they’ve worked as well as anything else (say urban combatives, Kalah / Krav etc). The key theme with the chin jab (which is the one you’re focusing on here) is to take space, crash and pre empt. Which is pretty universal as a tactic, until the blade is out, and then other tactics apply of course 👍. Bear in mind that this isn’t a ‘vs knife’ orientated film - it’s just getting people used to the most common strikes of the Fairbairn system 👍
@@TommyMooreww2combatives Thanks, and I’ll keep viewing
Bill Underwood, Rex Applegate, William Fairbairn. These are the founders. Get to know them. A better friend you'll never have. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the great work!
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Ching Yi Kung Fu Association.
Hi, a couple of observations.
You say you prefer the EOH blow with the thumb in. Yet, when you perform it, you have the thumb out? 😀
Also, you describe the "punch like" palm heel strike as useless yet, when you demonstrated it, it appeared to be the most powerful blow thrown during the entire presentation.
Hahah let me watch it back and I’ll respond, haven’t seen it in ages 👍
I like matchbook technique
Was Fairbairn taught by the Chinese?
He was indeed! In Bagua and likely in a fair few other things too!
He worked with the Shanghai Police department and was instrumental in their developing the first modern day S.W.A.T. He is said to have trained with the then premier expert in Yin style Pa-Kua Ch'ang. This is a difficult system to master. It is however based on a great deal of Shuai Jiao. Lots of hard work, but in the end nasty stuff.
Good luck.
@@TommyMooreww2combatives his knife techniques have been deeply influenced by Gatka.
What's your go to pre emptive strike that's worked and why?
I am in Essex, interested in self defence lessons...
Those last few strikes can turn into a take down also.
Thanks
Anybody tried using these as described in a real fight, Squaring off, exchange, point of where Blows fly, as soon as you move your body position to get all that body mass transfer, the Guy's going to Hit you! When striking the side of the neck it's the front slope part containing all the blood vessels and Nerves that has to be hit, not the muscular side part. this can be achieved using appropriate hand shape and subterfuge with speed like a Katana sword draw across the body.
Reminds me of Hung gar kung fu
Shanghai School of Streetfighting!
Well he showed the point.just how we approach chops was different
The real government recommended 5 a day!
Matchbox hock behind the ear
Unless it's life threatening hitting someone in the throat could get you locked up for a long time in the. Uk.I would Always try to avoid legal trouble if I can.
Absolutely, always use such force as is reasonable. People should train all levels of force
Can you teach me to become an assassin
Go to Columbia.
He not doing anything wrong. I would like to exchange techniques. Just so I get him to stop the sound effects
Good content but you could have delivered it in 5 to 10 minutes. It took half the video just to deliver the edge of hand blow.
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It is not good to strike with open fingers.
Okay I don’t want to sound like a troll.. but I sent this vid to a couple of coppers that I have tried to explain chops too.. they never could get it..
I sent the vid and within an hour I got a message and a call...
I guess you are a better teacher on video than I am in person!
One last troll.. on palm strikes.. I have done palm strikes high on the chest and dropped a thumb into the throat.. this will actually take folks off their feet..
But the bad thing about palm strikes is I crushed a bone in my wrist from the force you can generate.. I broke a door open with it.. they removed the crushed bone and now I have two numb fingers..
The palm strike draws its strength form your feet all the way up..
What did that poor door do to you?
@@stefanschleps8758 lol no one has ever asked before!!! I was serving a search warrant and someone became armed on the other side of the door and I got excited and stupid..
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