I've gone through 2 2ZZ engines on my MR2 and K-Swaps are just silly expensive, and the 2GR route doesn't seem that much better, but exploiting a high efficency 2AR engine to make as much as 240 horsepower sounds very interesting so I'm really looking forward to how that turns out
What caused your 2zz’s to go? Just curious as i’ve owned three 2zz cars so far and all have been nothing but durable. Recently purchased a mr-s and the 2zz is still my preferred swap. But I’d love to hear from people who have actually done the swap.
Looks like a page out of the Handbook of Frankenstein motorworks for the MR2. You should work together with him. Very smart guy and he figured out the whole 2ar-fxe cam deal and made 240hp NA. Plus he made engine mounts, cams, chassis pcb for the beans protocol etc.
It being a k20a3 out of an rsx means it already has some of the things you want when building a k series. 1. The type s oil pump, all rsx k20’s came with it, only the ep3 and 8th gen civic si had balance shafts 2. The 50 degree vtc gear, early year a3’s had them stamped pnd, while later years said rbc
@@dat_bouy Nah man, i wouldn´t say > all day. People who are tracking their cars swap jseries for K, even on cars that already came with J like acura TSX. The J series is good starting point, having more torque and HP from the start, but once you start modifying the K, it will quickly get on top. Boltons won´t get you far with the J since it´s belt driven economy engine with single overhead cams and it can´t be fitted with high lift cams due to head design. Both are great engines, but i feel like most americans are go crazy for J, only because of the displacement. The engine doesn´t have that much going for it outside the fact that it is honda. ;) But that´s just my opinion. Enjoy whatever you wish.
@@RealLeskot I think you mean the TL, not the TSX. The TSX only came with the K24 up until the 2012 when they added the J35 to the second gen, but no one races the second gen.
@@caglioso Okey! As a K series fan and owner of one, i 1000% agree. One thing that sucks absolute ass with K series is the sound. Legit, one of the most potent 4 cyls, but propably the worst sounding one. Like, show me na k series that doesn´t sound like shit.... Struggles of owning k series 😅
Loved every second of this episode. Still rooting for the Toyota, I guess you can put a supercharger in that 2AR to make it a ‘lil more spicy! Great video! Thanks!
Amazing episode! I can't wait for this mr2 build. I just figured it was going 2zz, so I'm excited to see how this different engine is gonna go. Thanks for the content!
You’re going to love the 2ar swap from Frankenstein Motorworks, especially with the fxe version. It’s going to be insane. Everyone should check out his channel- there is lots of great content.
Really enjoyed this one, especially the more creative path for an Mr2 Spyder swap, using a whiteboard to go through a thought process, and the humor behind it all.
I’m happy you kept the Toyota Toyota and the Honda Honda but man with that thumbnail I was really hoping you went 2grfe v6 swap on the mr2 it’s a super common swap for the mr2. And although I don’t own an mr2 I’m currently on my second 2gr engine powered daily and they’re great engines plus it could be a poor man’s lotus evora with the v6
there's people in my country getting 230whp from that little 2ZZ with stock internals, you can basically get custom headers, R9K manifold, cold air intake and standalone ecu and you're ready to go.
I'm taking full credit for the 2ar-fxe swap. I believe i was the only one that suggested in the video you asked about swaps and even tagged Frankenstein Motorworks 💪🏾 enjoy man
I'm really glad it's a K series for the S2K, imo only an F or K series belongs in there. The 2AR sounds like a really interesting choice, I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with it
HOLY SHIT A 2AR MOTOR!!!!!!!!! dude i was on the forefront of the 2AR motors. I had a second gen scion tc that was making 350whp completely stock with a turbo and manual transmission. other than ECU related issues it ran like a dream. Stephan Papadakis has proved this motor is VERY capable. really really stoked to see this build come to fruition
The S2000 was my first dream car. I made a giant collage with all of the parts and accessories that I would have put on it, cut out of all the Import Tuner, DSport, etc. Magazines that i bought literally every month. Wheels, tires, suspension, bodykit, exhaust, engine parts, interior bits. You name it, it was on there. I wish I still had it so that I could look back at my old ideas and see if I would choose anything differently today compared to back then. I think it would be fun to build my original idea just for grins and giggles. Hell maybe it would've turned out insane (I have always done a ton of research on a given subject before actually getting into said subject)
So excited that you went with the 2AR-FXE for the MR2! You should go all the way and drop a 1AR crank in there to get 2.7L, to shame all the K24s out there.
10k rpm s2000. Ben if you ever build that you have a buyer lined up right here whenever you want to sell. Sounds awesome. The livery is cool too, maybe keep it or tweak it a bit?
When you pulled out a 2AR-FXE, I was really surprised. I remember Papadaki Racing did some amazing things with a 2AR engine, but don’t hear a lot about this engine in the enthusiast community like the Honda K-series. Wish you guys the best on your builds
Could the Toyota MR2 have accepted a Toyota Corolla/Matrix/Pontiac Vibe XRS engine instead? The older Corolla XRS was the one car in their line up that could stand up to the Honda Civic Si and Acura RSX Type S K20.
I have a 2012 scion tc so seeing you get a 2AR Engine for the MR2 is so sick!! I dont know much about my own engine so it’ll be fun to learn along the way in terms of performance mods. I got FBO but thats it
Ben really love kseries hahaha. Imagine how excited he is. Lol that's nice seeing this two guys build for s2k . I'm also excited watching this content with regards to the build of s2k!!! More video guys keep it up!
I daily a 2zz with a 100 shot,no problems been probably a year. There's also a guy in New York with a supercharged 2zz with a 100 shot,also his daily🤔but that camry motor sounds cool too tho 😎
Omg I laughed so freaking hard when been came flying in as soon as Ben said K20. 🤣🤣🤣 And then he went crazy on the mods. Exactly what I wanted to see. Lmao Can't wait to see these series for your cars man.
When Ben came in with the "Did someone say K series?" reminded me of times when my friends and I got heavily into our cars and finally went down the rabbit hole
making a spicy Toyota engine hopefully NA will be really cool to see. S2000 is gonna be alot of work, more then just a engine replacement but it'll be cool to see the "How fast can we make it go" be rilled in for "But a man gotha drive that thing". Can't wait for a update on the ZX2 Ben XP
Since this K20A3 is going into S2K chassis, I bet it would not stay NA. I'm glad to see K20A3 swap, as I have K20A1 version in my Honda Stream. It's almost the same economy i-VTEC version of the K-series, which has 3 lobes only on the intake side, has VTC, has that two-piece variable length intake (like RSX base) and also has the oil pump with balance shafts (just realized that).
Ben Lin: I paid $500 dollars for the engine
Ben Thorn: You’re gonna want to put $15k into it
"Overnight parts from Japan"
@@sidewinderzero only if he has to..
@@sidewinderzero I was waiting for this line...
the way I see it if you're gonna spend 15k on a K you might as well get a 4 Piston Racing engine
I love the idea that Ben can be instantly summoned with a K series engine
Looooool
summoned😂😂
So hilarious when short Ben came to dictate how tall Ben should build his second engine 🤣
bro i died
We all have a friend like that
@@t32prod.98 BRO BEN WAS SPITTIN FAXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
@@ol_smokey9370 haha I don’t have friend’s
I like how Ben shows up. “Like wait, did I hear a k series”?
Like a dad when someone touches the thermostat😅
He reminds me of SpongeBob breaking through the wall smiling
He pulled a k head out of his inventory like it was Skyrim 😂 He is excited
Bro that had me cracking up lol.
K series has enter the chat
That MR2 is gonna rip at the track after this engine swap. But I’m excited for both cars. Can’t wait to see the finished product
I've gone through 2 2ZZ engines on my MR2 and K-Swaps are just silly expensive, and the 2GR route doesn't seem that much better, but exploiting a high efficency 2AR engine to make as much as 240 horsepower sounds very interesting so I'm really looking forward to how that turns out
What caused your 2zz’s to go? Just curious as i’ve owned three 2zz cars so far and all have been nothing but durable. Recently purchased a mr-s and the 2zz is still my preferred swap. But I’d love to hear from people who have actually done the swap.
@@izzy031096 Oil starvation if not upgraded to baffled sump is very common. Otherwise the rod bearings are common to go when the engine is battered on
What about a 3SGE or GTE swap?
Why do you think the 2GR is no better? I have a 2GR turbo in my SW20 with around 600whp (450wkw) and beat on it a lot and it's solid.
@@dylan4972 think he was referring to it being expensive, on the same level as a kswap in terms of price
Lil Ben is playing THAT car friend we all have
At least he has some experience and not just info from random forums put together x)
Looks like a page out of the Handbook of Frankenstein motorworks for the MR2. You should work together with him. Very smart guy and he figured out the whole 2ar-fxe cam deal and made 240hp NA. Plus he made engine mounts, cams, chassis pcb for the beans protocol etc.
Oooooh, pulling out the fancy boi moves with the hybrid version of the 2AR!? Very noice! Looking forward to both builds.
It being a k20a3 out of an rsx means it already has some of the things you want when building a k series.
1. The type s oil pump, all rsx k20’s came with it, only the ep3 and 8th gen civic si had balance shafts
2. The 50 degree vtc gear, early year a3’s had them stamped pnd, while later years said rbc
Interesting info about the 2AR, haven't looked too much into those but I'm excited to see what happens!
Check out Frankenstein Motorworks
They absolutely rip with FMW's kit
Glad you listened to us about the 2ar swaps from @Frankenstein Motorworks
Really excited for the MR2 build. Ive been saving to do a k-swap MR, so to see another option will be really exciting!!
I love how Frodo found his "ring" in this K engine. Just love seeing how excited he got.
Class act!!! These guys have real chemistry together. Their jokes are not forced and it's fun to watch them have fun
I love how Ben just comes over and nerds out, and that's half the video.
You know, with all of the Honda motors, we’re eventually going to need a J-Series build!
That's what I'm saying! See my comment, J > K all day
@@dat_bouy Nah man, i wouldn´t say > all day.
People who are tracking their cars swap jseries for K, even on cars that already came with J like acura TSX.
The J series is good starting point, having more torque and HP from the start, but once you start modifying the K, it will quickly get on top. Boltons won´t get you far with the J since it´s belt driven economy engine with single overhead cams and it can´t be fitted with high lift cams due to head design.
Both are great engines, but i feel like most americans are go crazy for J, only because of the displacement. The engine doesn´t have that much going for it outside the fact that it is honda. ;) But that´s just my opinion. Enjoy whatever you wish.
J series V6 does have the best sound IMO, can’t beat it.
@@RealLeskot I think you mean the TL, not the TSX. The TSX only came with the K24 up until the 2012 when they added the J35 to the second gen, but no one races the second gen.
@@caglioso Okey! As a K series fan and owner of one, i 1000% agree. One thing that sucks absolute ass with K series is the sound. Legit, one of the most potent 4 cyls, but propably the worst sounding one. Like, show me na k series that doesn´t sound like shit....
Struggles of owning k series 😅
Loved every second of this episode. Still rooting for the Toyota, I guess you can put a supercharger in that 2AR to make it a ‘lil more spicy! Great video! Thanks!
With 12.5:1 compression? I wouldn't. That's an NA only build
The lotus with the zz engine is supercharged so it would be like a far away homage even tho its not a zz engine anymore
@@inaNis_ there is nothing wrong with high compression and forced induction lol
@@kodielance6731 the 2zz is 11.5:1 if my memory serves right. 12.5:1 with port injection would require the use of E85
@@inaNis_ Mazda is like, 12.5:1? That's childs play. Lets make it 16:1 and put a supercharger on it (the skyactiv-x).
the k20a3 build will be fun to see. I still have a stock on in my ep3 with 220k miles on it. Like to see how hard it is to give it real vtec
Good call on the 2AR!! So stoked!!
Amazing episode! I can't wait for this mr2 build. I just figured it was going 2zz, so I'm excited to see how this different engine is gonna go. Thanks for the content!
You’re going to love the 2ar swap from Frankenstein Motorworks, especially with the fxe version. It’s going to be insane.
Everyone should check out his channel- there is lots of great content.
really looking forward to the 2AR build.
Now to figure out how to do that, keep the hybrid, and swap it in a 3rd Gen Prius. 🤔 😮
Pumped to see these builds. Love how you all can still have fun
Really enjoyed this one, especially the more creative path for an Mr2 Spyder swap, using a whiteboard to go through a thought process, and the humor behind it all.
Ben driving in and braking hard is the best thing ever
I love how Ben nerds outs and jumps into the frame upon hearing the "K-series" a cool addition to the video.
Doooooddddd! Holy crap someone is actually doing it besides Frankenstein. A 2AR swap in an mr2 Spyder. I'm so here for this.
YES! So excited for the Mr2. You guys are finally embracing the Mr2 engine swap community and I could not be more excited
Love the engine choice for your mrs✔️
That was a really enjoyable episode. Stepping it up!
You guys work so perfectly together, so much fun. These cars should be a blast when done.
I love the energy in this video! Really excited to see the series unfold.
Ahhh "Jimmy Diggs" old s2k. I was hoping it would be saved. Thank you Ben for saving it's life🙏🙏🙏❤️
I’m happy you kept the Toyota Toyota and the Honda Honda but man with that thumbnail I was really hoping you went 2grfe v6 swap on the mr2 it’s a super common swap for the mr2. And although I don’t own an mr2 I’m currently on my second 2gr engine powered daily and they’re great engines plus it could be a poor man’s lotus evora with the v6
I have one in my rav4
I drove my mom's RX350 and was like, why does this car redline at almost 7 grand??? Lol the 2GR is incredible.
2GR is super common on the 2nd gen MR2, but not so much on the Spyder. It's a lot of chassis cutting to make it fit in the Spyder.
Sick built can’t wait !
Don't forget the crank and rods. Those stock a3 rods won't hold up and sadly their is no aftermarket rods for the a3 crank.
there's people in my country getting 230whp from that little 2ZZ with stock internals, you can basically get custom headers, R9K manifold, cold air intake and standalone ecu and you're ready to go.
I'm taking full credit for the 2ar-fxe swap. I believe i was the only one that suggested in the video you asked about swaps and even tagged Frankenstein Motorworks 💪🏾 enjoy man
I'm really glad it's a K series for the S2K, imo only an F or K series belongs in there. The 2AR sounds like a really interesting choice, I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with it
For future reference all RSX share the same oil pump, so as long as it’s an a3 from a rsx it’s good to go.
So glad you kept the MR2 in the toyota family and didn't do the typical Kswap.
Looking forward to seeing it!
I look forward to these videos all week
HOLY SHIT A 2AR MOTOR!!!!!!!!! dude i was on the forefront of the 2AR motors. I had a second gen scion tc that was making 350whp completely stock with a turbo and manual transmission. other than ECU related issues it ran like a dream. Stephan Papadakis has proved this motor is VERY capable. really really stoked to see this build come to fruition
If I want turbo I get the 2ar-fe or if I want all motor 2ar-fxe is best right? How they compare though hp?
The S2000 was my first dream car. I made a giant collage with all of the parts and accessories that I would have put on it, cut out of all the Import Tuner, DSport, etc. Magazines that i bought literally every month. Wheels, tires, suspension, bodykit, exhaust, engine parts, interior bits. You name it, it was on there. I wish I still had it so that I could look back at my old ideas and see if I would choose anything differently today compared to back then. I think it would be fun to build my original idea just for grins and giggles. Hell maybe it would've turned out insane (I have always done a ton of research on a given subject before actually getting into said subject)
You just blew my mind with those plans for the 2AR-FXE. Looking forward seeing it done!
Frankenstein Motorworks has several awesome videos where he discovered how to use the hybrid cam and retime the motor. Extremely interesting
@@ErikSeastead Found them shortly after looking up the mod! Cool stuff!
@@ErikSeastead which engine do the drifting use 2ar-fe or 2ar-fxe to create so much reliable power
@@rolldog82 Papadakis racing has videos on his 1000hp nitrous 2AR-FE build. The hybrid stuff is more recent/FMW only.
@@ErikSeastead you think it better going 2ar-fe turbo or 2ar-fxe turbo?
So excited that you went with the 2AR-FXE for the MR2! You should go all the way and drop a 1AR crank in there to get 2.7L, to shame all the K24s out there.
This guy knows
I'm sure we'll be waiting for a long time... good luck, k is king
" shame all the K24s out there" yea good luck with that
haha. ok, that's a good one.
@@Ksw-wg8nx k is overrated
10k rpm s2000. Ben if you ever build that you have a buyer lined up right here whenever you want to sell. Sounds awesome. The livery is cool too, maybe keep it or tweak it a bit?
The "K-Cop" skit is awesome, love it when videos have a touch of humor!
When you pulled out a 2AR-FXE, I was really surprised. I remember Papadaki Racing did some amazing things with a 2AR engine, but don’t hear a lot about this engine in the enthusiast community like the Honda K-series. Wish you guys the best on your builds
Yes! I knew you would drop this engine in! Love it for the Toyota MR2
YESS 2AR FTW. Recently started to watch a couple of video about it, seem like perfect timing. Can't wait for the next MR2 video
omg a 20k K build.. dis gunna be aaasome! 500 hp rwd street beast! sliding around every corner!
I'm so happy you didn't put a K in the MR2. Thank you.
double akitson 2AR-FXE ftw
Im just getting into a 2ar swap for my mr2 as well, I posted a video about it today too. Looking forward to see what you do it
I'll sub! MR2 gang
Thorn was legit stressing me out during this one 🤦♂
I'm excited about these builds!
I love how tall Ben's always doing builts like i would do. He's got really good taste👌 i really appreciate your videos
Interesting motor choice for the mr2! Looking forward to seing that.
I am just on the point to finish my kswap on my mr2 🔥👍🏼
So glad Jackie's old S2000 is getting a new life as street car, hope both builds go smoothly!
Could the Toyota MR2 have accepted a Toyota Corolla/Matrix/Pontiac Vibe XRS engine instead? The older Corolla XRS was the one car in their line up that could stand up to the Honda Civic Si and Acura RSX Type S K20.
Ban talking about them K-series was hilarious 🤣
Keep up the work guys, can't wait to see the results!
Can't wait for the build episodes
I am actually excited about both engine builds. Nice to see some k20a3 love...
HAHAHAHA 5:25 : "A wild k-series man apperared!"
When Ben walks in on the K Swap he had me rolling on the floor laughing! Great job guys, can’t wait to see the builds come together! 🛠🦾🙌
Over 1 mil subscribers! Congrats!
Great decision on both ends. That MR should be interesting. Can't wait to see it running. oh ..the S2K as well.
I love my 2arfe zzw30 great to see other people getting on board!
I’m so excited, I can’t wait for the completion.
I have a 2012 scion tc so seeing you get a 2AR Engine for the MR2 is so sick!! I dont know much about my own engine so it’ll be fun to learn along the way in terms of performance mods. I got FBO but thats it
Excited to see what you do to the A3
Love this Saturday Gears and Gasoline!! 👏👏👏
Ben really love kseries hahaha. Imagine how excited he is. Lol that's nice seeing this two guys build for s2k . I'm also excited watching this content with regards to the build of s2k!!! More video guys keep it up!
I daily a 2zz with a 100 shot,no problems been probably a year. There's also a guy in New York with a supercharged 2zz with a 100 shot,also his daily🤔but that camry motor sounds cool too tho 😎
Nice to see a Toyota solution for the MR2, not surprised with the engine choice for the S2000.
Super excited for both car but a S2000 with ITB that rev's to 10k sounds like a amazing driving experience.
Yesssss! Hope is still their for Toyota 4Cyl engines to make powerr!!!!, way to go tall Ben😂🙌. Loving this episode!
The way honda Ben shows up in the sunglasses is so cool yet like a macho man. Stylish looking.
Being that I had a first gen Scion tC/ semi track car this is very informative 👌 with the Toyota engine info
Look up Frankenstein Motorworks. He sells parts and tunes for the tc2 motor if you swap to it. You can reuse your E351 trans I believe.
Posted on SC. I’LL BE WATCHING THE MR2 BUILD. SO PUMPED
Love the videos fellas, awesome stuff!
Omg I laughed so freaking hard when been came flying in as soon as Ben said K20. 🤣🤣🤣 And then he went crazy on the mods. Exactly what I wanted to see. Lmao Can't wait to see these series for your cars man.
When Ben came in with the "Did someone say K series?" reminded me of times when my friends and I got heavily into our cars and finally went down the rabbit hole
I’m rolling! Thanks for leaving that in!
Frankenstein Motorworks called 😎
I'm really keen to see both builds 👍 especially the oddball 2AR in the mr2
making a spicy Toyota engine hopefully NA will be really cool to see. S2000 is gonna be alot of work, more then just a engine replacement but it'll be cool to see the "How fast can we make it go" be rilled in for "But a man gotha drive that thing". Can't wait for a update on the ZX2 Ben XP
Since this K20A3 is going into S2K chassis, I bet it would not stay NA.
I'm glad to see K20A3 swap, as I have K20A1 version in my Honda Stream. It's almost the same economy i-VTEC version of the K-series, which has 3 lobes only on the intake side, has VTC, has that two-piece variable length intake (like RSX base) and also has the oil pump with balance shafts (just realized that).
Super excited to see what this 2AR engine is about so glad not a k series
This is it! More of this. Great connect
I just finshed 2zz swapping my zzw30 and I'm excited to see other options. Super excited for more mr2 videos.
2:00 MY 2zz is faster than a k series but…I do like your upgrade 😉 ✌️
Can’t wait for this, especially the S2k K20 build
The 2ar excites me as I never seen it before but only heard good things from it. Looking forward to see both builds!
I would LOVE if you could keep the hybrid portion functioning! Possibly with an Arduino controlling that portion.
I see somebody found the info on Marc's build and applying what he's already developed.
Love little Ben’s Honda passion. Cheers
Two engine swaps at one time. You are my spirit animal.
So happy Ben beat Covid. The dynamic of all you guys is brilliant and makes me look forward to all of your future content.
Wow he beat covid. Like hundreds of millions of people all over the world have. What a feat..
@@izzy031096 But he was seriously hospitalized with it... Clearly not a regular viewer.