I love how Riftens borders looked, naturally on one side along the river using it as their physical border, instead of most kingdoms I see basically becoming very box like in border shape.
In game the geography of Riften limits is. They would have a hard time pushing west towards Falkrrath, because the Jerall Mountains and the Throat of the World are in the way, with only very treacherous mountain passes. Riften would have a hard time.moving north as well, because there is a very steep cliff that drops into a large valley going towards Windhelm. The only roads down are narrow I don't paths on the mountains. All that being said, they are also secure from outside threats, being geographically isolated on all sides.
*Gorg* : I think I forgot something. *Worldbox* : If you forgot it, it might be something not important. *Gorg* : You're right. *Windhelm* : *sad Ulfric noise
Then they later on focked it up by not taking quickly out their weak neighbors, while they had the best start out of any team. It looked like at one point they were going to get wiped out, if Riften and Winterhold kept teaming on Markarth, but thankfully Markarth came back to the game.
I'm sad that falkreath got sidelined in skyrim and didn't receive a unique architecture style like some of the other places because I love the location so much and walking through the forests and its so vibrant there
Same, loved the wooded and secluded location. I spent alot of time there in many saves even downloading mods to cut trees and build my own house and made it in the woods opposite the mountain ridge by the lake. And the people in Falkreath just seem so chilled out compared to anywhere else. Everyone foaming at the mouth elsewhere about problems and war and Falkreath just sitting on the porch sipping iced tea and watching the other holds fight like kids in the yard shaking it's head.
A true three kingdoms vibe. And not without reason. Winterhold holds the school of magic that ended up ending in self destruction, Markarth was built into the mountain where any invader could be pushed back, and riften had a land of resources. And to top it off, whiterun is the deciding land of the deadlock just like it was in the game.
In my world, there is one continent that hasn’t been colonized because the rhinos legit defend their land to the last man. Now they even have artillery because of the monke migration.
Honeyside seems really nice, I really enjoy Solitude's home for the plush three stories the character can take advantage of with so many storage containers. And if it has an alchemy AND enchanting lab, it's so much better.
Windhelm and Solitude are the two most interesting cities for me, but I like Windhelm a little more since the winding alleys and race/class division makes it feel more like a city than the others.
@@charlieturk2146 I think it was a mixture of both the defensive rivers, but also the troops couldnt make it far into enemy lands without dying to the population of that empire
Whiterun’s an okay city, it’s a good base to save games or store your loot because it’s right in the center of Skyrim. My big issue in the game was that everyone was rude af
@@brody7714 except for Nazeem, Braithe the brat, two of the Jarl's kids, Njada stome-something, and also that honey slave guy goblin cleric... thing...
Whiterun is the best city for abusing glitches, if you glitch over the wall near the entrance and run around the side of the city, you can rob the forge's chest and get a bunch of stuff to sell.
@@rico_20k in my opinion there should be like a medieval update imagine if two kingdoms are at war and then you see battling rams attack the gate while being attacked by catapults and archers which are on walls and bridges over river, but modern update is also cool like bomber planes and guns
21:30 its funny because when you flip the map counter-clockwise, it looks like a map of china in the three kingdoms era, riften being the riverlands under shu, markarth being wei and winterhold being wu :D the geography and three faction stalemate lol
I'm about to say the same. Besides, Shu-Han was the one getting cornered inland just like Riften was. Wu had the longest coastline, though unlike Winterhold, Wu was located in a southern region without snow and the natural river boarder was between it & Han-Wei instead of its western neighbour. Han-Wei was the leading force most the time just like Markarth was. It's simply clockwise btw
so mages vs artificers vs thieves...interesting neverending war concept. almost reminds me of that story about an old civ 2 game that went on for like 10 real life years, where the world was just an irradiated swampy hell from constant nukes between three major civilizations and the ice caps melting like a dozen times somehow
Dawnstar is super underrated. I love the aesthetic of a mining fishing town in the frigid north. Felt very akaviri. Also the last vestiges of mehrunes Dagon being nearby makes so much sense.
Great video! Always surprised to see who comes out victorious and how. Thanks for sharing ! Would love if you shared more updates on the relative tech levels of the groups during the vid. That we can see a clearer picture of faction superiority. It could make the vids more engaging as currently the only metrics we have to follow are the character race, their population, their name, and location. I love the smaller maps with bigger populations. So cool to see the complexity and changes over time. Thanks for doing a great job with narration and fast forwarding at the right time The mage staff in the beginning was also great! Adding small custom moves like that makes the videos even more interesting! Especially loved that you named him 💜🙌🏾
Rifted is my favorite hold because it has the beautiful autumn trees, also is on the Jerrall Mountains so there’s snowy areas. Plus Riften looks like a really quiet peaceful city eliminate the thieves guild. And that hold is mainly stormcloak and I side with them cause I’m for an independent Skyrim and I always side with rebels.
My favorite town is actually Falkreath. More so for the location it's in, and the dark brotherhood + hircine quest. Smaller town in the forests, it's where I would live if I were in Skyrim
Playing the game on survival, white run is definitely my favourite place to live because it’s in the middle of the map and it has a cart that helps you get to town to town if your into that kind of role playing.
My favorite town right now is Falkreath. If you have visual enhancing mods, it's such a peaceful and serene area, and it has such fun supernatural quests
Winterhold for the win! I spent the most time there, next was doing thieves guild missions n then every play thru brings me back to Markarth over n over again so this video was awesome
If I had to pick my favourite hold, not just in terms of their town but also the surrounding area, I'd go with falkreath. Love the forests and love Lakeview manor it's my main house always even if it occasionally gets attacked by a giant or bandits. It's in good proximity to Whiterun too.
From a military point of view riften had by far the best strategic start look at ww1 they would have essentially been Turky …honestly crazy similar starting board two ww1 to bad the Turks were using swords
Could you make one video like this with Hammerfell? I think its geography and cities makes for an interesting Arena, also, it looks very unique to me ;)
And i tougth you will let the Orc Strongholds fight... but you took the Holds of Skyrim... ok. Still fun. And amazing map. Markarth leads. FOR THE REACH!
If, in this scenario, the entire Dwemer race suddenly came back in Markarth and Winterhold was not 98% destroyed by a magical oopsie, I can see it being a possible outcome. Perhaps Riften got support from Cyrodiil/was annexed by the Empire, otherwise I can't see them existing for long, let alone be one of the winners.
Dawnstar is the best city/town for me. I like the road leading in to it and how theirs a small pier with houses layered above to the mountain. Also before it was patched out you could access the khajit caravan inventory chest with a glitch lol.
Morthal and Falkreath where my favorite. Morthal wouls be boring it was normal area but the swamp makes it feel mysterious and foreboding especially with the Vampire Quest and woule be a nice player. Falkreath is JUST cozy and quiet. Too bad you cant carve your way into a tree
theres a pre populated tameriel map on steam workshop, probably an unpopulated version too. but if you don't wanna place and name every individual town/kingdom/clan in tamriel the pre pop version is awesome
the thing with this game is that the AI kinda thinks rivers are like mountains so if one faction closes off a river they have an entire side of that river to play with unless another faction hops over but I've only seen that happen with much bigger bodies of water like the sea in the North
I personally prefer riften. I love how the season is fall all year round, I love the white birch trees, it has more creatures such as trolls, saber tooth cats, frostbite spiders and yet not a lot of wolves or bears. Yet a good amount of spriggins. Having a town on the water front is great plus it has the main 2 organizations based out of it. Far more drama in the inside as well.. but again it’s just personal preference on my part
That cursed forest spot near Whiterun pretty sure they did that to recreate Bleak Falls Burrows the first dungeon you go in with all those undead Durgars nice touch lol
Solitude in skyrim has that Manor you could buy next to a bard or jester academy thing and you can buy it when you clear a quest to kill some necromancer cult or something like that.
Gorg:“I can’t believe Whiterun was the first to go”
Windhelm:”yes totally”
"CORRECT" - Plankton
I guess the Dunmer rebelled
About time
I love how Riftens borders looked, naturally on one side along the river using it as their physical border, instead of most kingdoms I see basically becoming very box like in border shape.
Riften most aesthetic boi
That's because kingdoms cant expand across two tile wide rivers - they need a bridge
In game the geography of Riften limits is. They would have a hard time pushing west towards Falkrrath, because the Jerall Mountains and the Throat of the World are in the way, with only very treacherous mountain passes.
Riften would have a hard time.moving north as well, because there is a very steep cliff that drops into a large valley going towards Windhelm. The only roads down are narrow I don't paths on the mountains.
All that being said, they are also secure from outside threats, being geographically isolated on all sides.
"Which of the three will be the first to go"
Windhelm: *Already been dead for ages at this point*
Like how he even saw windhelm doing bad and didn't check up on it again
"I cant believe Whiterun was the first to go!"
Windhelm: "Am I a joke to you?"
*Gorg* : I think I forgot something.
*Worldbox* : If you forgot it, it might be something not important.
*Gorg* : You're right.
*Windhelm* : *sad Ulfric noise
Bruh they died so fast I didn’t even notice lmao RIP Windhelm
He deserved it
Damn that sucks they are the main faction I play with in skyrim
@@Gooorg I guess General Tullius was actually serious with his push
@@saturn4602 we don't talk about the stormcloaks here *takes a hit from a ciggy* we just don't...
The reason Markarth suddenly boomed in population is because they improve their wooden houses making them into stone.
Lols
Then they later on focked it up by not taking quickly out their weak neighbors, while they had the best start out of any team. It looked like at one point they were going to get wiped out, if Riften and Winterhold kept teaming on Markarth, but thankfully Markarth came back to the game.
I'm sad that falkreath got sidelined in skyrim and didn't receive a unique architecture style like some of the other places because I love the location so much and walking through the forests and its so vibrant there
Same, loved the wooded and secluded location. I spent alot of time there in many saves even downloading mods to cut trees and build my own house and made it in the woods opposite the mountain ridge by the lake. And the people in Falkreath just seem so chilled out compared to anywhere else. Everyone foaming at the mouth elsewhere about problems and war and Falkreath just sitting on the porch sipping iced tea and watching the other holds fight like kids in the yard shaking it's head.
Perfect for lore if you want to be a werewolf
A true three kingdoms vibe. And not without reason. Winterhold holds the school of magic that ended up ending in self destruction, Markarth was built into the mountain where any invader could be pushed back, and riften had a land of resources. And to top it off, whiterun is the deciding land of the deadlock just like it was in the game.
side note, the naturally spawning animals rule is prolly the one that slowed down riften early, rhinos are scary
In my world, there is one continent that hasn’t been colonized because the rhinos legit defend their land to the last man. Now they even have artillery because of the monke migration.
@@retrosrobloxreviews9564 what!!!!!
Monkeys can migrate and make artillery?????
@@anti-mate407 monkeys can throw rocks
yeah lol, rhinos needs to be nerfed
@@anti-mate407 yah i remeber putting some monkeys in an island and then surprised when each boats just exploded cuz they machine gunned them 😂
Riften, for me, has the house with the most cozy aesthetic in the game.
i like falkreath because its location just feels really nice and relaxing and full of wolves. whiterun is probably my second favorite though
Honeyside seems really nice, I really enjoy Solitude's home for the plush three stories the character can take advantage of with so many storage containers. And if it has an alchemy AND enchanting lab, it's so much better.
@@FriendlyTheSoup agree, falkreath has always had some a comfy vibe to it.
I rather liked markarths house
Riften was the city I spent 90% of my time in , just the people, corruption, lore, everything was amazing
I like how on the first proper check into Solitude they had a little windmill.
I'm salty that Windhelm had no chance...
I really love the cold and I love how old the place feels.
Your not alone
bro the blood on ice quest is my favorite one (the murder mystery quest, 'the butcher', blah blah blah)
Windhelm and Solitude are the two most interesting cities for me, but I like Windhelm a little more since the winding alleys and race/class division makes it feel more like a city than the others.
I'm not. Always hated Windhelm for the arogonian and elf racism since my Dragonborn was an arogonian.
@@DisIsYubtub i like the murder mystery feel to it but it's legit the buggiest quest ive ever had
I love how he never mentioned the fact that Winterhold took over Windhelm XD
I think the stalemate at the end was due to angry villagers.
Yes
I think it was more because of the rivers creating chokepoints
@@charlieturk2146 I think it was a mixture of both the defensive rivers, but also the troops couldnt make it far into enemy lands without dying to the population of that empire
true
Whiterun’s an okay city, it’s a good base to save games or store your loot because it’s right in the center of Skyrim. My big issue in the game was that everyone was rude af
Nah, not if you do their quests.
@@brody7714 except for Nazeem, Braithe the brat, two of the Jarl's kids, Njada stome-something, and also that honey slave guy goblin cleric... thing...
If you kill everyone no one is rude.
@@hypermaeonyx4969 as a masochist,i found them to be very polite
Whiterun is the best city for abusing glitches, if you glitch over the wall near the entrance and run around the side of the city, you can rob the forge's chest and get a bunch of stuff to sell.
The fact that this game isnt even done updating and its one of if not the best world creating game ever is scary
I guess the next update will be the modern update
Well most sandbox games are never "done", look at Minecraft
I want it to update to where it’s more modern so maybe some ww1 or ww2
Sandbox games are rarely ever done updating. The entire point is that you can do whatever
@@rico_20k in my opinion there should be like a medieval update imagine if two kingdoms are at war and then you see battling rams attack the gate while being attacked by catapults and archers which are on walls and bridges over river, but modern update is also cool like bomber planes and guns
21:30 its funny because when you flip the map counter-clockwise, it looks like a map of china in the three kingdoms era, riften being the riverlands under shu, markarth being wei and winterhold being wu :D
the geography and three faction stalemate lol
I'm about to say the same. Besides, Shu-Han was the one getting cornered inland just like Riften was. Wu had the longest coastline, though unlike Winterhold, Wu was located in a southern region without snow and the natural river boarder was between it & Han-Wei instead of its western neighbour. Han-Wei was the leading force most the time just like Markarth was.
It's simply clockwise btw
What I love most about this is the fact that the small village that separated from whiterun looks so close to riverwood's location in game.
so mages vs artificers vs thieves...interesting neverending war concept. almost reminds me of that story about an old civ 2 game that went on for like 10 real life years, where the world was just an irradiated swampy hell from constant nukes between three major civilizations and the ice caps melting like a dozen times somehow
Skyrim is such a beautiful game honestly. Worldbox is a very good chaotic mess so of course both put together would make it...more funny or cool? Idk
It would be cool if you made a Imperials vs Stormcloaks fight over Skyrim
Dawnstar is super underrated. I love the aesthetic of a mining fishing town in the frigid north. Felt very akaviri. Also the last vestiges of mehrunes Dagon being nearby makes so much sense.
I actually think that couldve been one of the orc strongholds he was talking about
Riften was my main city that I went to 24/7 mainly due to how beautiful the landscape looked. The western flatlands of whiterun is also another fav
Great video! Always surprised to see who comes out victorious and how. Thanks for sharing !
Would love if you shared more updates on the relative tech levels of the groups during the vid. That we can see a clearer picture of faction superiority.
It could make the vids more engaging as currently the only metrics we have to follow are the character race, their population, their name, and location.
I love the smaller maps with bigger populations. So cool to see the complexity and changes over time. Thanks for doing a great job with narration and fast forwarding at the right time
The mage staff in the beginning was also great! Adding small custom moves like that makes the videos even more interesting! Especially loved that you named him 💜🙌🏾
Mans completely forgot windhelm and didn't even notice that winter hold wiped it early
whiterun lasting until 8:45
gorg: "whiterun is the first to go"
windhelm dead before the 3 minute mark: "lmao"
Honestly, I'm glad I'm not the only person who loves Skyrim and likes/loved Worldbox
Your videos help my falls asleep when my insomnia acts up. Thank you for your content!
Riftens has a great border primarily because they have a good easily defendable border
Exactly!!!
Rifted is my favorite hold because it has the beautiful autumn trees, also is on the Jerrall Mountains so there’s snowy areas. Plus Riften looks like a really quiet peaceful city eliminate the thieves guild. And that hold is mainly stormcloak and I side with them cause I’m for an independent Skyrim and I always side with rebels.
I also side with the stormcloaks and I'm a imperial player
it would be interesting to see this again but with only 2 factions, the imperials and the stormcloaks, for a civil war scenario
My favorite town is actually Falkreath. More so for the location it's in, and the dark brotherhood + hircine quest. Smaller town in the forests, it's where I would live if I were in Skyrim
Falkreath is my favorite hold. It is beautifully secluded in the wild.
Especially when you build your player home out there
This actually makes sense. Markarth has access to SO much dwemmer artifacts and constructs, and Riften has the thieves guild.
Playing the game on survival, white run is definitely my favourite place to live because it’s in the middle of the map and it has a cart that helps you get to town to town if your into that kind of role playing.
I like how riften took the river. Winterhold took the eastern snow and markarth took the mountians.. seems accurate to me :P
I guess it makes sense that dawnstar developed so fast, they have so much time on their hands because as we all know: there's no rest in dawnstar.
Gotta love that Windhelm gets taken right as he zooms into Riften
This got me installing Skyrim all over again
Skyrim + Worldbox = Best Video Ever
Thank you so much, I love Skyrim
Morthal after attacked by everyone :"I hear no bell"
I love white run, just the style and it's the city in the center
My you're a great find! Highlight of my week!
My favorite town right now is Falkreath. If you have visual enhancing mods, it's such a peaceful and serene area, and it has such fun supernatural quests
“Winterhold used to vie for the seat of High King. Can you believe it?”
- Jarl of Winterhold
Winterhold for the win! I spent the most time there, next was doing thieves guild missions n then every play thru brings me back to Markarth over n over again so this video was awesome
If I had to pick my favourite hold, not just in terms of their town but also the surrounding area, I'd go with falkreath. Love the forests and love Lakeview manor it's my main house always even if it occasionally gets attacked by a giant or bandits. It's in good proximity to Whiterun too.
Riften is my favorite, I love that it’s on top of a lake and the undercity is so cool
first 1 min and npc count in cities is like in real game great video
I would love to see this again but with a grace period where diplomacy is off until all the land is claimed
"Im going to turn off rebellions."
Stormcloaks: Wait thats illegal
I wasn't paying attention to the TV and I took a glance and instantly knew it was Skyrim lol
Maybe if you magnet everyone together at the end and let them Duke it out, it would give us a definitive winner :)
“I used to be an adventurer like you, before I took an arrow to the knee”
"Morthal has by far the lowest population."
Windhelm: "..."
The first one was the stormcloaks' capital city, you forgot them, poor guys RIP Windhelm
Super awesome vid bro a Tamriel one would be bitching as well
From a military point of view riften had by far the best strategic start look at ww1 they would have essentially been Turky …honestly crazy similar starting board two ww1 to bad the Turks were using swords
That’s what I mean!!
Why don’t people see that?!
Could you make one video like this with Hammerfell? I think its geography and cities makes for an interesting Arena, also, it looks very unique to me ;)
As a Skyrim fan, I love you for this.
And i tougth you will let the Orc Strongholds fight... but you took the Holds of Skyrim... ok. Still fun. And amazing map.
Markarth leads. FOR THE REACH!
3:00 it's probably skuldafn, the portal to sovngarde that the dragons use
That could be, i thought it was the orc stronghold near windhelm but if they dont have the other strongholds thats most likely it
Riften is my fav place, especially with the surrounding autum forest just feels relaxing, and its also the home of thiefs guild so yeah
Morthal: *seems an army passing by* this is fine
This was really good, you earned a subscriber
If, in this scenario, the entire Dwemer race suddenly came back in Markarth and Winterhold was not 98% destroyed by a magical oopsie, I can see it being a possible outcome. Perhaps Riften got support from Cyrodiil/was annexed by the Empire, otherwise I can't see them existing for long, let alone be one of the winners.
I like that Dawnstar became Michigan, i would have done a tiebreaker by unleashing dragons and seeing who lasts the longest
AKA: Gorg hating on riften for 24 mins
Dawnstar is the best city/town for me. I like the road leading in to it and how theirs a small pier with houses layered above to the mountain. Also before it was patched out you could access the khajit caravan inventory chest with a glitch lol.
Morthal and Falkreath where my favorite. Morthal wouls be boring it was normal area but the swamp makes it feel mysterious and foreboding especially with the Vampire Quest and woule be a nice player.
Falkreath is JUST cozy and quiet. Too bad you cant carve your way into a tree
,,riften might catch up" *spawns 2 dragons to destroy riften and leaves Markarth alone* ah love these spectator videos, they are always onesided
Ironic that you turned rebellions off for the skyrim map
7:03 *forgets about windhelm*
I like your videos because they help me learn English
But if you put subtitles it would be 10/10
Smashed that play button 🔥🙌🏾👏🏾
I love how Whiterun respected the Greybeards and never took High-Throthgar...xD
i had never seen this guy skyrim is why i am here
White Run and Solitude are the goats fr
You should Disband kingdom expansion in the beginning and let cities get really strong
Homie really blue balled us rather than just doing a jump cut to having the comp run the game for a day and see who wins
Oh have I been waiting for this
Riften is was my fav trown sooo the fact did so well is great
I be like Whiterun wasn't first. Windhelm was absorbed by Winterhold
theres a pre populated tameriel map on steam workshop, probably an unpopulated version too. but if you don't wanna place and name every individual town/kingdom/clan in tamriel the pre pop version is awesome
the thing with this game is that the AI kinda thinks rivers are like mountains so if one faction closes off a river they have an entire side of that river to play with unless another faction hops over but I've only seen that happen with much bigger bodies of water like the sea in the North
I like how whiterun almost instinctively made a village in almost the exact spot where Riverfell was in game
He did send a detachment at once...
8:22 Riften making some art with their borders. Looks like a cheetah running or some bird dino creature.
These videos are addicting.
Gorg: Which is your favourite town
Me: WHITERUN!
This is something you picture in your head as a kid playing Skyrim
I personally prefer riften. I love how the season is fall all year round, I love the white birch trees, it has more creatures such as trolls, saber tooth cats, frostbite spiders and yet not a lot of wolves or bears. Yet a good amount of spriggins. Having a town on the water front is great plus it has the main 2 organizations based out of it. Far more drama in the inside as well.. but again it’s just personal preference on my part
Between you and me Gorg, I think you're a better worldbox youtuber than Mellon
Windhelm was always my favorite and has one of the best houses with a cool quest to get it as well.
Hjerim dupe never gets old
Sorry I rewinded the video and realized it got token over by winterhold In the first 2 mins awesome video
That cursed forest spot near Whiterun pretty sure they did that to recreate Bleak Falls Burrows the first dungeon you go in with all those undead Durgars nice touch lol
At 22:00 you could ask the developer to add that in to be able to skip forward that sounds like sum that might actually be added fr
Solitude in skyrim has that Manor you could buy next to a bard or jester academy thing and you can buy it when you clear a quest to kill some necromancer cult or something like that.
Sea of Thieves music was an interesting choice mate
Whiterun got the short end of the stick
Needs more trickster elves coming from the south who had been playing both sides.