I’m a Certified rescue diver and commend you, you noticed them and how they were acting. Your dive master would’ve lost two people, one being a kid on that dive if it weren’t for you. Great job.
I am a PADI Rescue Diver. This video sent chills up my spine. These divers seem completely ignorant to the fact they were too deep and low on air. Scary stuff.
Peter B and Corina Sailing Charters My 12 year old son Paraglide’s with me! He has been training with me for years! My three year old daughter flys work me almost every day! She going to make an awesome pilot! At 3 she already takes the brakes ) toggles and even crosses her little legs (which is a sign to other pilots you’re turning) and she can control the glider quite well! She almost landed once but her tiny arms couldn’t flare hard enough so I gave it a little extra pull and let her believe she landed! My family is a family of flyers! I have been a skydiver for over 20 years, BASE not much less then that, I fly planes, hang glide, and am a CFI to train other gliders. Age means bugger all! My son doesn’t just ‘follow’!,, he spent years at the beach or park ground handling! And I fact a really smart, focused and determined pilot! These two diver are just fucking idiots! They BOTH followed everyone else, and BOTH of them didn’t pay any attention to their equipment which is much more advanced then when I used to dive! Gotta give kids more credit! He comes skydiving with me tandem, but has shown no signs that that’s a sport he wants to peruse, but at about 8 he found an old harness of mine and we went down the park and I started to show him the basics and I’d be driving through town or on my way home from work, and there he’d be, every day, at the park ground handling, which every good pilot should always continue to do no matter how experienced you are! By the time he’s 17 he’ll probably be a better pilot then me! As for my little copilot, I’m trying to find her something small enough to get her ground handling,’she turns four soon and if she had her own little wing to ground handle on, she’d be stoked, but I’ve been skydiving since 17, and flying planes since 15! It’s the family I grew up with and it’s normal to us, but never in a million years would my son do something so stupid! Where the fuck was the dive master?? He/she is responsible for them all!
OMG. I'm a certified rescue diver. They were way outside recreational limits, not paying attention. Maybe also narced and at over 43m!! You saved their lives without a doubt. Much respect to you
I have so much respect for you. Ive meet people like you on my trips and I have seen some close calls. Ive seen a diver making an uncontrolled ascent from 20m, but still you saved a 12 year old boy and his father that day. Respect man
@@morganroberts4409 bar = one atmosphere ie.The bar is a unit of pressure defined as 100 kilopascals. It is about equal to the atmospheric pressure on Earth at sea level
@@morganroberts4409 Without putting words in Harry's mouth, it seems that he is saying that the pressure at 43 meters would be 27 bar (which it isn't - it is just over 4 bar - 4 times atm pressure).
Chris Cheek no he translated imperial to metric for us Europeans. 27 bar is almost 400psi referenced in the video. He is talking about the pressure in the tank
I am sitting behind my computer with clammy hands watching this. Unreal. David, you are a true hero and I hope they were grateful. People who do stuff like this should have to go back for retraining at a minimum or maybe even have their certs pulled. Situations like this are what shuts down resorts and makes dive insurance rates skyrocket.
They should never be allowed to dive again. Period. And the diving resort should have made sure that beginners don't dive completely alone and without supervision.
#David well if the resort only employs a few instructors but takes on a shit load of customers I'm equally Worfield for how the instructor feels having to watch whole groups where one or two unqualified idiots can just wander to deeper depths without being noticed and when they only realise because the head count came out different then it can ruin some people's entire careers as instructors. Some resorts are purely built for profit but who to blame? The guy who owns it? The guy who opened it? The guy who runs it? What if they are all different people? Quite the investigation for a company that almost definitely had the customers sign away their rights to sue. Legal loopholes, cheap tropical country laws and a desire for profits and not reputation. That's the problem. A resort that focuses on safe diving more than cheap diving or profitable diving is the one that is worth visiting. Especially for the unqualified.
While I totally agree, having certs pulled is near impossibility. They need counsel land retraining. If they escaped without any delayed DCS they are VERY fortunate. So many errors including exceeding recreational limits. Exceeding NDL and no mandatory Emergency Deco Stop (impossible due to no air). With so many novice divers, club/resort should have employed group dive with instructors DMs and reliable experienced divers in perimeter positions. Amazing negligence
@@lazydave137 never be allowed to.dive again thats a lil extreme thats why there is a master diver to make sure that stuff dont happen if anything its his fault not theres
DoubleGoon you clearly don’t dive then! Emotions are invalid when diving, especially at those depths! It’s YOUR responsibility to care for everyone around you, and if your morality is compromised by your anger for saving two clearly fucking idiots lives, then you don’t belong in the water!
In many places, the dive master is not there to herd you or to help you. My diving in the Bahamas generally has the dive master staying on the boat. You're certified, so you're supposed to be able to look after yourself, not need a nanny underwater.
Patrick Swayze idiot, its no ones responsibility to look after someone else! Every certified diver is responsible for themselves. That’s it. These two were certified and if PADI the lad was likely only trained to 12m/33ft. At nearly 50m, these two were narced out their tree, but we all know about the quality of training in the Asia’s and their attitude towards diving sensibly. ....
James Powell are you referring to me or the diver as the idiot here dude? This is why we have dive buddies, and any moral person would take care of those around them when under water, or ‘not my problem buddy’...
@@patrickswayze2596 if you think its my responsibility to look after you when we're in the same body of water, you are mistaken. I will not come and rescue you and endanger myself just because you think its everyone elses responsibility to save you. The only person you are responsible for is yourself! 1st rule of rescue course... don't put yourself in danger to save someone else.
I earned my c card as a freshman in high school and remember being drilled about situational awareness, keeping track of your time and air, learning and knowing decompression tables (before dive computers), and looking out for your dive buddy (each other). I can tell that these two young men had no business being on a dive that deep, especially with a camera to distract them. They look completely clueless. Thanks for being there for these two kids. They avoided the grim reaper that day.
You’re a true hero Aaron! I truly hope this incident didn’t harm you in anyway As a diver myself it terrifies me watching this video and I pray I’ll never be on the same boat with them ever, but I’m also glad that diver like you exist Thank you!
FfejTball they didn‘t look scared or bothered in any way. The stupids would got back in reality when no more air would come out of the regular in 120 feet.
The sad truth is: the fast ascend from 150 ft (!) could have even gone bad for you, in which case their supidity would have put you in harms way as well...
Right?? I'm inclined to armrest judge and say the dive master's absence and lack of awareness really bothers me, not just for those 2 divers but also the health and safety of our rescue diver.
@@rschmidtschmidt6810 They did not need "deco" stops, but they had exceeded recommended dive times, which puts them all in risky territory. At 1:52, you can see on the computer that he's at 130ft with 0min NDL(No deco limit, or time remaining at that depth without having a decompression obligation). He then descends to 150ft. At 2:52 when you see his computer, you can just make out that he has acquired a deco obligation, albeit minimal(2min @ 10ft, which will have been accounted for by the time they ascended and completed their safety stop), but it shows that his dive profile fell outside what is considered "recreational safe limits". The pair were deeper for longer, so they would have been at greater risk. The ascent also causes issues. The MAXIMUM(not recommended) ascent rate is 60ft/min below 60ft, and 30ft/min from 60ft to safety stop. That means the absolute quickest(outside an emergency) you should be getting to the SS from that depth is 3min. Then you have nitrogen narcosis. I've only been to ~130ft, and I've felt it. It's probably why these 2 forgot all about air and dive times and living. It can make rescuing a diver more difficult. Throw in the potential of uncontrolled ascent due to panicking/narced divers, complications due to running out of air or one of the rescued divers suffering from DCI(maybe they were on their 3rd dive for the day? They would have been well into deco if that was the case) It all adds up to a great deal of risk for the rescuer that he shouldn't have to be dealing with...but he's the one who got his rescue ticket, so....
Adding a note here, based on the note these guys are OW only, which is limited to less than 60ft. Most narcosis is at 100ft+ (although it can happen at shallower depth). So the fact that these guys went deeper than 60ft on their own is already diving outside of their comfort zone and diving beyond their limits. So if they do narc, that was because of them pushing their limits in the first place
Wow....good work, dude. I've been diving for years and after a lot of experience (which includes wreck dives to 130') I can say the only real reason to dive deep like this is to get to a wreck or another specific thing to see. Otherwise, there is typically no reason to dive below about 60 feet. In fact, most reef dives under 50 feet have been my favorites. Even dives on 3000 foot walls in the Caymans we stayed at about 60 feet for bottom time. Lots of color, fish, critters etc...and we see lots of stuff, including sharks, large rays, etc. Most people, including the people in this video, have no business diving a wall that deep....and the good news is, you don't need too to see things!
Absolutely. They would not have been allowed back in the water! I would have shown the video to the "alleged" dive master's boss and help put him on the road! Notifying PADI and offering the video to show the quality of this operation would be a good idea too.
Assuming they are certified divers, I doubt PADI would do anything. You are responsible for yourself as a certified diver, the guide is there as a guide. That being said, I wouldn’t take them on the next dive, either. I’d hope nobody would. With their depth and bottom time, they’re out anyhow.
The first mistake is the dive master who should check people. People are often stupid that is why u have professionals to watch over them. U don't leave people behind, u suppose to monitor them.
Considering they were at 140-150 feet for a few minutes, they would have gone over their safe bottom times anyways and wouldn't be allowed to dive for 24 hours.
What about a shallow dive? I think it might not be a bad idea to have them dive at an "off-gas" depth as a prolonged safety stop. Who knows how long they were at depth!
Aaron, well done on being attentive. It is crazy how fast the air goes at that depth. 140 is my personal max depth and it was for maybe a minute. I am glad you took it upon yourself to go check on them. Many would just say "it is not my concern" and I am glad you did the right thing. You would think the DM would take a moment to count noses once in a while. All the best!
My skydiving training taught me to constantly and always check your altimeter so you know when to deploy the parachute at a safe height, in this case, your dive computer to know how deep you are and how much air you’ve got left. I think this should be emphasized more with scuba diving. It should be engraved in everyone’s brain! You are a legend for saving their lives…
How many people in skydiving just rely on audible altimeters? When I was still active it seemed like that was very common. I wonder if they have something similar for scuba.
@@fleafrier1 that’s a good point actually. I personally wouldn’t just have the audible, I’d want a second backup, another altimeter that I can actually read the numbers. I was told some scuba dive computers make noises or the screen flash when it detects that you are doing something dangerous but I don’t know for sure
@@Aileen0826s That’s how I rolled. I used an audible but always had an old school altimaster 3 on the back of my left hand. But sometimes in bigger freefly formations I couldn’t look at it because I was too busy concentrating on flying. Then again, looking at the ground approaching is also a decent backup and I could still do that. Unfortunately I don’t think visual cues like that exist in scuba. It seems like you just have to pay attention to your instruments at all times.
Rob Higgs I have dived about 11 times so far and I have to admit, when you throw any extra parts to diving, like cameras, navigation, checking out a brand new site, it gets easy to forget to check for a few minutes longer than normal, but these guys where so deep they must've been affected by nitrogen narcosis. Without any knowledge of it, you might just think you feel kind of euphoric, drunk, confident or anxious so it's not like these guys weren't showing signs of that.
Im extremely late to watching the video, but i have to say well done Aaron! You just saved 2 lives, and one of a 12 yearo old boy you say?! Amazing, you are a symbol of what all scuba training stands for!!!! Poses so many questions, specifically at the depth that young boy was at
Our instructor showed us this video during our Rescue Diver class this last weekend......holy cr@p! Good on you for such heads up diving! I also dive with a ProPlus computer. It looks like you were definitely maxed on on your nitrogen loading. Again, wow!
2 minutes to come up 125 feet is too fast. You all got very lucky that day and god bless you for being aware enough to get them out of harms way. I did exactly the same thing in Mexico for a woman that had narc'd out and was just on her way to nowhere. She was toast and didn't even care. recreational diving can be very dangerous for the un-certified.
It was at the official limit until '96, when the official limit got halved for reasons. Video does say "2.5 mintes" not "2 minutes," which is 25% more time and 80% the speed. Given the air supply, I reckon it was worth it. 400 PSI is 27.2 atmospheres, and they were down at 45.7 m, which is 5.6 atmospheres, so on a 20 litre bottle that guy had about 4.86 minutes of taking it easy or 3.4 minutes of breathing like he's getting a moderate workout before he stopped getting air and sucked water. Going up 30.7 m to the bottom edge of where they had any business being reduced the pressure to 2.5 bar, more than doubling the time he had, but would take 3 minutes if done at official 10 m/min ascent rate, leaving him not much air while he was still 15 m down. Going up to 4.57 m in 2.5 minutes is 2.5 x 25 x 5.6 = 350 litres of air used, out of his starting 27.2 x 20 = 544 litres, leaving 194 litres, which at 1.5 bar will last him 194 / (25 x 1.5) = 5.17 minutes and he's only half a minute from the surface, which gives the rescue diver time to pause, check a dive table, see whether they need a decompression stop, hand over his octopus if necessary, wave over a friend with plenty of air and another octopus et cetera. Hmm. Found a depth-time chart in feet and it doesn't even have a column for 150 feet (because oxygen toxicity is a thing so you don't go down there on 20% oxygen). 130 feet for 10 minutes requires a 5-minute decompression stop at 15 feet, according to another card I just looked up (mine are ... in a cupboard ... somewhere). Yep. Time to get a friend over with some spare air in his tank.
TJGermany They were definitely narced! At that depth everyone is even if people will claim they're fine. The lack of response when asking an aircheck was a sign. The single mindedness on taking pictures another.
@@Yggdrasil42 you won't necessarily be narced at that depth, but the chance is pretty high. I have friends that have been 200+ ft on air and had no narcosis, granted it was only for a minute or two on the first dive of the day. Regardless of how easily you get narced, you should have hundreds of dives above 100' before attempting deeper. Deepest I've been was on my 96th dive @120' Channel Islands. I was nervous a bit, but no narcosis because it was first dive of the day and we went straight there and wormed our way up a wall to 80-90ft. When in doubt, error on the side of safety!
Good job! I have about 100 dives and still have never used a camera on any dive, I think it's important for me, because I dive only on trips to other countries where the water is warm and clear, to focus on doing a good job of maintaining neutral buoyancy, watching my gauges, breathing correctly, and just enjoying where I'm at and what's around me, living in the moment, and not worrying about getting a good photo -- everything I'm seeing while diving has been photographed countless times and I can view images online of all of the fish, corals, and other life forms and natural formations that I see while diving. And they're better quality. I've seen other divers get too focused on trying to take as many photos as possible and they've often not only missed out on seeing something amazing, but they've also used up their air too quickly from moving around too much and sometimes even run into corals and other divers.
I couldn't even finish watching this video. I am deathly afraid of drowning, and if fear gripped me just watching a video, I cannot imagine how those poor divers truly felt.. God bless all of you rescue divers, and all of you calm, cool, collective divers who can react favorably to emergency's like this one. You all restored my faith in human beings again.
Really, really, really great job, dude! You saved two lives on this dive. When you filmed their faces near the surfaces, everything made a sense to me: I looked so often - dozens over dozens of times - in those "cold" faces of divers who are simply not ready or suitable for this sport. As a psychologist, I regularly get the impression (!) that there are countless divers that are not suitable for this sport because of their personality structure, attitudes and/or mental ressources. They dive with absolutely no care to themself or toward their buddies, they stay totally passive, even in great danger, or they behave in a highly risky manner without any concerns or situational awareness. And these "cold" faces seem to show me that their minds dissociate to some degree from the moment they jump into the water. In my opinion, their minds are in a state somewhere between clear and trance-like.
I can't speak about these two people but I will agree that there are way too many people who simply do not understand how dangerous diving is. Or maybe it is that they don't care?
@@SeanHenrichs I suck at math and I still understand how diving works. You don't need to be great at application of the booksmarts to be able to at least use safety checks
Good work, Aaron. I'm a green horn scuba diver with less than 40 dives under my weight belt, but I keep cheking my gauges and computer (and asking my buddy, usually mi wife) all the time, even if it means that I miss this big grouper of that wonderful lobster that the rst of the group is enjoying. Gas and depth control first, and then fishes and pics.
Aaron hagen, wow you are truly a hero, when I watched the video I thought you were the dive leader, and thought wow good job saving those boys and keeping a good eye on them, however when I found out you were just another diver and not the leader wow, it wasn't even your job to be looking out for them , but it seems your training doesn't alow you to not pay attention to all that is going on around you, you dealt with that situation very well and I view you as a hero , good for you bud. I do have some questions , where was there dive leader? how did they get to that depth without someone stopping them? and holy shit that is scary. I have about 8 dives under my belt but I do know the dangers of diving especially deep dives , they scare me. I find that diving is very easy, it's knowing what to do in the momment something go's wrong, and I am very great full of the trainers I had we focused on all the what ifs and recognition of dangers situations and how to deal with them. I took ssi. great video bud and I'm glad you have posted it so other less experienced divers can also see the dangers of diving if the proper steps arnt taken to insure safety. your a hero in my books bud!
@Scott Payton I couldn't have said it better myself ! Great save @David Hagen this could have been a terrible day of diving for everyone there if it wasn't for you looking out and being a great dive buddy! Glad everyone lived to tell the tell. Those boys will be paying Davy Jones a visit one day if they keep diving like they did in this video. None the less i'd dive with you any day!
Well said. MASSIVE respect to @Aaron Hagen for saving those 2 divers. They were absolutely mad to not pay attention to their gauges. The OP saved those 2.
I dove with Stuart's Cove last year, they take a lot of inexperienced divers out, but since there are only 2 main dive operators on that island and a lot of divers come from everywhere, you can understand how complacent dive masters can get.....totally the dive master's responsibility to be watching these guys. Aaron you are a true hero, you put your life at risk to save these (2) idiots. My Dad was a dive master at Turks and Caicos islands for a number of years and told me countless stories of idiots like these, where he had to chase after divers that go way too deep and forget to watch their air gauges. Scary, scary....heading out this week to take my advanced open water dive/course....want to be a safer diver. Safety is #ONE!
I was diving with my uncle and dad one time in Key Largo on the Molasses reef that is only 30 feet at the max. I'm 5'2" and at that time about 150 lbs. They both are large men so, I invariably use less air than they do. I normally check my gauges every 5 minutes or so and more often as the dive progresses. I was glad I was in that habit on this dive. We all had ~3000psi when we began. At the first check, I saw 2500 more quickly than I thought I should have. I checked with the guys, they also had about 2500. Thought it was strange but kept diving. The next time I compared with them, I was at 1900, they were at 2100. A few minutes later I checked with them again and I was at 1250, they were at 1700. I signaled I wanted to go up because I was losing air too quickly. Back on the boat, I took the first stage off and while the o-ring didn't look new, it didn't look like it needed to be replaced either. I switched tanks and joined my dad and uncle for the last part of the dive. Always check your air and compare with your buddy/buddies. Accident averted because we were diving smart and within our limits.
Well done guys! They well may have died or been severely bent without your intervention. This is a heads us to newer divers. As a Dive Maser/ Instructor, I can really appreciate what you did. 1. When diving in foreign countries. You can’t always expect the same safety standards of the US and Europe. 2. It is your job to keep reasonably close to the dive master if you want to take advantage of his/her local knowledge/expertise. And you can;t always expect them to constantly keep track of everyone. Although in a perfect world they would. 3. The divers in trouble were obviously narced. And were clearly not diving within their limits. Great for you to observe this and do the right thing!! 4. Dive Mastering and Instructing are a huge responsibility. Sometimes divers lie or exaggerate their skills. It wasn’t clear to me how many divers were on the deep dive. Whether the Dive Master was inattentive or not when you are told that the dive will be an advanced dive; be honest. You can’t and shouldn’t depend on the Dive Master with your life. He may watch you like a hawk, and he may not. You are both usually strangers to each other. It’s you life!
At first I didn't like the video for the music and for the protagonists "hero-attitude". But this was a really good job! Actually saving two lives, risking his own (nitrogen narcosis and whatnot).
hero attitude ?! 1) it totally wasnt his responsibility to look after other divers, only his dive partner. 2) His dive went from one of relaxed recreation, to one of watching/monitoring/ practically babysitting them. -- At a minimum the dive operation should have given him one free day of diving "on the house".
@@Gizziiusa I hope you're not a diver, if I understand your not-my-problem-attitude correctly. Everyone is responsible for everyone else. There is no you're-not-responsible. Of course the smallest group of divers consists of two people who are primarily rersponsible for each other. But diving is a team sport, to me the whole life is and everyone's your teammate. I hope I just got you wrong.
@@wassollderscheiss33 Was never told such in any of my dive training. You are responsible for yourself, and to your dive partner (to an extent). Divers are presumed to be certified, thus be able to manage their diving situation/parameters/etc. been diving off and on for 30 years, NAUI master diver trained. Been on numerous ocean dives and never heard a dive master utter worlds like "ok, everyone is responsible for everyone else". personally, I dont think you know what the hell you are talking about (unless you are from another country like the UK ?)
Wow....Thank God you were there to look after these two inexperienced divers. The Dive Master should have taken notice of anyone not certified to dive that deep and kept a close eye on them. Maybe have two dive masters if you were a large group. These two guys have no idea what horror would have awaited them had they run out of air at 150-foot depth. At 400 PSI you would think they would have started to notice the low tank forcing them to work a little harder sucking air for each breath? It comes with experience. In my earliest dive years 1987, the low tank signal to go up was 500 PSI. Today, they have moved that up to 700 PSI for obvious reasons. In my earliest years of diving, I learned what a low tank of air felt like and would notice without a depth gauge. That might work at 35-feet or even 60-foot depth, but not at 150-feet. You are SOL if you figure that out at that depth.....you were truly a guardian angel to keep watch on these two young divers. Hopefully you made this a learning experience for both the divers and voiced you're disapproval to the negligent dive master. I've learned when you dive outside the US, where a lawsuit for negligence will quickly put you out of business, you must always look out for yourself and your equipment. I usually rent when traveling and have experienced two equipment failures in Mexico. Once I had a gauge that didn't work at all. The 2nd time I was leaking air slowly into my BCD. Both would have been a disaster for inexperienced divers.
It might not have been horrific. They might have got lucky ... and dropped into oxygen toxicity depths before they ran out of air. Out like a light without even knowing there was a problem, down into the depths and never seen again.
They were lucky you were there. That's a perfect example of task loading (photography) on divers that were clearly not ready for it. If you can't even keep track of your own depth and gas you certainly don't need other things piled on top of that.
I've been scuba diving since 1964,Monastery Beach Carmel 1000+ times, also Bahamas, Sea of Cortez, 2 wrecks off Massachusetts, and Maine. Depth is dangerous for many reasons and the reward is not very high. The big problem is narcosis (loss of brain function) at depth. If you plan on diving deep, you are throwing the dice. Aaron appears to have saved these two kids, he deserves praise. Any deep dive should be a "bounce dive"=hit your max depth, then ascend and dive at reasonable depth. You have no bottom time at 150+feet so get outta there.
islandlifestylephoto Definitely nitrogen narcosis. Everybody gets it at around 30m or deeper but it's a subtle proces that inexperienced divers often don't recognize. The more you dive the easier you recognize it. Doesn't mean you'll make better decisions though ;)
I was holding my breath the whole time. You my friend are a brave hero risking going past 130 to save these two and without you there I’m almost certain that would be their last dive. Man I want you in every dive I go
I have a question - as a beginner diver. When you inflated your bsd and deflated their - did you take them right away to the surface ( i know seriously crazy risky due to nitrogen and that sick depth) because i dont think they had enough air to make propper stops, or you just had safety stop at 15 ft? I was in hawaii ( molokini crater) and the dives there are like walking in paradise...you dont even notice the depth...visibility is just too good. But i dive in vancouver (cold green waters) and these dives are very challenging... At 80-90 feet you are like in total dark...can barely see your own hand... Thank you and hat off!
These guys are so lucky to be alive and that you were there. I don’t know that I would have gone to 150’ and put myself in such danger. How long did you deco for? Did someone drop a tank down?
Great job you saved two peoples life. Honestly I am 13 and I dive well within my limits I usually dive 60 ft but sometimes I go 10 feet deeper. My dad is 44 and is always watching out for me I only have 20 dives total. My dad was so proud of me on the test I got an 80% the day I got my certification I was so happy I felt on top of the world. After 6 months of diving my dad got me a dive knife and a new mask. I have a zeagle ranger BCD and I am just happy I get to spend my time in the ocean ever since I got certified I have 24 hours total underwater. These divers need to know their limits who takes a 12 year old 150 feet that's crazy.
@@huntersihelp Pretty rude comment, he was really young and who knows, he may get test anxiety as evidenced in part by his euphoria at passing and getting certified.
Being a new diver I’m constantly checking my computer and gauges and thinking about my training and limits while underwater. These videos make me so nervous for those people to be diving more after that.
I’ve intervened during a few dives where I’ve seen exactly the same thing. Inexperienced divers who are complacent or incompetent. Well done to you, I hope they appreciated and understood what you just did. Dive safe, always check your equipment, always dive within the parameters.
I'm taking scuba classes this week. We are doing the pool tomorrow. The hurricane is preventing us from the ocean this weekend. This is crazy. Were only going 60 foot max. I'm nervous as hell
I just started my open water certification, and one of the biggest things the instructors are stressing is ALWAYS check your air pressure. Without even looking you should know your air pressure within 300 psi
Speaking as an instructor - very well done Aaron. This situation could have turned out to your own disadvantage as well as theirs but you pulled it off and very likely saved two lives. I wonder what the guide was doing meanwhile - did someone else have an issue that he might have been dealing with, or could he have been out of no decompression time or even air himself? How many dives had he done prior, if any (granted the depth of this one)? Was this a seasoned guy or a new holiday DM? Had he done any dives with these two before or was it the one where they suddenly revealed their own incompetence? The only issues I ever had underwater were always due to somebody elses usually undeclared ambitions. More often than not oblivious guys with new cameras ... I think always be wary of people with new gear and something to prove.
Aaron Hagen, you are a hero. When my buddy and I dive, our attention are just towards each other. Most likely will not help others. Those two nuts are probably already narc'ed. Many new divers wanted a dive camera first before even investing on a dive computer or regulator. That's the frame of mind and behavior that makes things really dangerous. All those dive lessons makes no sense to them. Just wanted to have something to brag about on social media.
It's sad and immoral, but it's not illegal. Same thing applies in backcountry skiing. If you don't follow the guide's plan and go where you're not supposed to go and fall down a cliff, that's on you and your negligence (or lack of skill). Waivers are signed for this reason :(
OMG! 150 feet! They had no clue they were sucking 4.5x the amount of air they would at the surface. Good job spotting that otherwise your rescue would have turned into a recovery.
I can't say enough good things about your heroic actions. I'm at a loss for words. They would be dead if it was not for you. Good on you bro! You literally saved that kids mother from unbearable grief. I'm guessing it was a father and son.
i understand people make mistakes and the results of those mistakes are fatal. you did good - giving them a chance to reflect on their errors instead of their faults published in a post-mortem report.
Amazing job... Why can't we set a dive depth limit on the computer, resettable for each dive? I.e. Instructors presets the depth and if the person reaches that it starts alerting them? It seems like something that can be programmed in the computer and somewhat avoid these situations.
I’m 16, I’ve been diving since I was 8 (so 8 years) and I’ve got 7 certifications with padi, I have a lot to learn obviously but I have been bought up being taught the dangers of stupidity underwater. This is seriously horrible to watch because not only does the guide not know the danger they are in, they don’t! They where very very lucky to have good divers keeping an eye on them because there’s gonna be a time when the only diver who can see them is a Dsd. That’s when they’re gonna have a big big problem.
The Divemaster said only advanced divers can go below 100'? Really? Wow. I have 300+ dives. Am a Rescue Diver currently doing theory for DM . . . the limit for OW divers is 20M (60'), for Advanced and Rescue Divers, 30M (90') and for those with a Deep Diving specialty course 40M (120'). Anything beyond that is Tech Diving world. Sure, we have all pushed those limits or maybe even broken through them, but on a professional dive boat tour?? . . . this dive was doomed before it started, by an unknowledgeable or unconscientious DM.
Not since I started diving! In the adnav=nced you do the FIRST dive of the Deep Dive course. which on certification qualifies you to 30m. FINISH the deep dive spec and that's 40m (another 3 dives and some more theory!) I've come across MANY divers who thought they'd done the deep dive spec because they had done their advanced course. There are Divemasters who are only qualified to 30m!!
The guide should have never allowed the group of inexperienced divers to split up. Then losing track of people wouldn't have happened. Piss poor job on their behalf. Great job on your part, taking the initiative to fill in for the missing guide and saving these poor fools.
The guide, is just that a guide. As certified divers you, and only you are responsible for your dive. A DM can't be in all places at once looking after multiple divers. If divers are so inept that they can't plan a simple Rec dive on a benign reef, then they either shouldn't be diving or hiring a Pro as a buddy
@@TwelvePaws The point of diving with a buddy or group is precisely to keep an eye out for each other and spot when one is acting odd before it becomes serious, not just to have an emergency source of air. You never abandon your buddies during the dive because "they are responsible for their own dive". Recreational diving standards are built on the very assumption of care and support from each other. Fully independent solo diving is a special category of technical diving, far beyond recreational standards in terms of prerequisite experience and equipment. It takes only 4-5 dives to become certified for recreational diving. A diver at that stage is in no way able to be responsible for themselves yet and it's very easy to get distracted by all the cool sights. It takes quite a few more dives to cement the knowledge into second nature and develop situational self-awareness. The basic certification alone does not grant experience. That comes after. So, the DM should be aware of the experience levels in their group and keep close tabs on the newbies and the underage, especially if the site offers the risk of easily dropping too deep or presents obstacles that obstruct sight. The risk and safety of taking any given group down is ultimately the DM's call, they take the responsibility to bring everyone back safely. The DM calls the shots, who dives with whom, when and how, or even if. If their group is too big or the experience level too low for them to manage, then they shouldn't do it, and should reorganise/redistribute the group in a safer way.
I've had a similar experience: inexperienced buddy who went past planned depth. Not responsive to signals. I made sure the diver was negative and did a controlled swimming ascent with them. The diver was fine afterward. You are a lifesaver. Those divers we're lucky to have you there.
That's a very good habit. Check your air and pressure often. And be aware of your depth at all time. If you aren't comfortable at certain depth, give yourself plenty of margin of safety. Keep building those good habits
@TheCosmicEntity I don't usually respond to the comments because I get so many of them, but the assent was definitely a quicker one than my dive computer wanted me to go. But under the circumstances I had no choice. Thanks for the comment..
Unfortunately , the same happened to me stupidly I had 25 bar left at 30 meters deep because i was busy taking pictures of eagle ray My instructor gave me his reserve regulator and we did the safety stops till we surfaced Whenever i remember this day my heart bounds so heavy and so fast And after this ...the first lesson in my head Always check your depth Always check your oxygen
Navy lets you hit 130 on air max (any deeper requires special authorization) and that’s with top of the line, expertly maintained equipment, and the most intense and thorough dive training in the world. This is why I get scared diving with civilians.
PADI OWSI here. You definitely saved lives - although risking your own in the process. Fast ascent from 40m can go ugly easily. Now (with the wisdom of hindsight and not being there myself) I'd say I'd bring them up at max allowed by computer and when they run out of air, share my air. You could even share air for both if they buddy breathe (pass your octo between each other and exhale while other is inhaling). I'd stop at 5m until all air is nearly exhausted (and signal anyone I see to come and share their air to us) to minimize the risk of DCS. And to top it off I'd report the DM and the company to certifying agency. Checking certs by people lifting hands?! Leaving OW divers unattended way below their depth rating?! And leaving when it's obvious these two are narked and just an accident waiting to happen.
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I’m a Certified rescue diver and commend you, you noticed them and how they were acting. Your dive master would’ve lost two people, one being a kid on that dive if it weren’t for you. Great job.
I am a PADI Rescue Diver. This video sent chills up my spine. These divers seem completely ignorant to the fact they were too deep and low on air. Scary stuff.
150 feet? They were high.
@@SailingCorina Meh, put more trust in 12 year olds. This is bad training and divers diving beyond their means.
Same here . Crap dive operation , should be fined and sent back to school !
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My 12 year old son Paraglide’s with me!
He has been training with me for years! My three year old daughter flys work me almost every day!
She going to make an awesome pilot! At 3 she already takes the brakes ) toggles and even crosses her little legs (which is a sign to other pilots you’re turning) and she can control the glider quite well!
She almost landed once but her tiny arms couldn’t flare hard enough so I gave it a little extra pull and let her believe she landed!
My family is a family of flyers! I have been a skydiver for over 20 years, BASE not much less then that, I fly planes, hang glide, and am a CFI to train other gliders.
Age means bugger all! My son doesn’t just ‘follow’!,, he spent years at the beach or park ground handling! And I fact a really smart, focused and determined pilot!
These two diver are just fucking idiots! They BOTH followed everyone else, and BOTH of them didn’t pay any attention to their equipment which is much more advanced then when I used to dive!
Gotta give kids more credit!
He comes skydiving with me tandem, but has shown no signs that that’s a sport he wants to peruse, but at about 8 he found an old harness of mine and we went down the park and I started to show him the basics and I’d be driving through town or on my way home from work, and there he’d be, every day, at the park ground handling, which every good pilot should always continue to do no matter how experienced you are!
By the time he’s 17 he’ll probably be a better pilot then me!
As for my little copilot, I’m trying to find her something small enough to get her ground handling,’she turns four soon and if she had her own little wing to ground handle on, she’d be stoked, but I’ve been skydiving since 17, and flying planes since 15! It’s the family I grew up with and it’s normal to us, but never in a million years would my son do something so stupid!
Where the fuck was the dive master??
He/she is responsible for them all!
@@patrickswayze2596 that's some impressive kids you've got! Great experiences for them.
You are the kind of diver I want to have next to me. God job.
Way to look out and help to make sure they were alright.
I am a dive master always watch your divers always check your depth an pressure gage an depth time.🤘
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@@ryanrusydat977 no, he means the job that makes god
Lol they almost died and they're just looking at him like he's ruining their trip 😂😂
Looking at him like 👁👄👁
Likely narcked at that depth
I can't stop laughing at this😭😭😭
Gaurntee they realized at 15 feet when they were out if air they knew then
Yeah, but sooner or later when they grow older and know more about diving they will be grateful that their sorry ass were saved by that man.
OMG. I'm a certified rescue diver. They were way outside recreational limits, not paying attention. Maybe also narced and at over 43m!! You saved their lives without a doubt. Much respect to you
I have so much respect for you. Ive meet people like you on my trips and I have seen some close calls. Ive seen a diver making an uncontrolled ascent from 20m, but still you saved a 12 year old boy and his father that day. Respect man
You are the man!!
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I had to google those numbers, 43 metres and 27 bar! Madness.
Morgan Roberts bar is metric form of psi
@@morganroberts4409 bar = one atmosphere ie.The bar is a unit of pressure defined as 100 kilopascals. It is about equal to the atmospheric pressure on Earth at sea level
@@morganroberts4409 Without putting words in Harry's mouth, it seems that he is saying that the pressure at 43 meters would be 27 bar (which it isn't - it is just over 4 bar - 4 times atm pressure).
Chris Cheek no he translated imperial to metric for us Europeans. 27 bar is almost 400psi referenced in the video. He is talking about the pressure in the tank
Ah, that makes more sense. Thank you
Did you speak to the dive pros handling the dive after?
I’m also a Rescue Diver. I applaud you. You saved those two. Can’t believe you had to descend so deep to retrieve them.
I am sitting behind my computer with clammy hands watching this. Unreal. David, you are a true hero and I hope they were grateful.
People who do stuff like this should have to go back for retraining at a minimum or maybe even have their certs pulled. Situations like this are what shuts down resorts and makes dive insurance rates skyrocket.
They should never be allowed to dive again. Period.
And the diving resort should have made sure that beginners don't dive completely alone and without supervision.
#David well if the resort only employs a few instructors but takes on a shit load of customers I'm equally Worfield for how the instructor feels having to watch whole groups where one or two unqualified idiots can just wander to deeper depths without being noticed and when they only realise because the head count came out different then it can ruin some people's entire careers as instructors. Some resorts are purely built for profit but who to blame? The guy who owns it? The guy who opened it? The guy who runs it? What if they are all different people? Quite the investigation for a company that almost definitely had the customers sign away their rights to sue. Legal loopholes, cheap tropical country laws and a desire for profits and not reputation. That's the problem. A resort that focuses on safe diving more than cheap diving or profitable diving is the one that is worth visiting. Especially for the unqualified.
While I totally agree, having certs pulled is near impossibility. They need counsel land retraining. If they escaped without any delayed DCS they are VERY fortunate. So many errors including exceeding recreational limits. Exceeding NDL and no mandatory Emergency Deco Stop (impossible due to no air). With so many novice divers, club/resort should have employed group dive with instructors DMs and reliable experienced divers in perimeter positions. Amazing negligence
@@lazydave137 never be allowed to.dive again thats a lil extreme thats why there is a master diver to make sure that stuff dont happen if anything its his fault not theres
They were very lucky to have you. Thank you for your diligence in keeping the newbies safe. You were a hero that day.
I would of been so pissed coming out of the water, at the two divers, and dive master especially.
DoubleGoon you clearly don’t dive then!
Emotions are invalid when diving, especially at those depths!
It’s YOUR responsibility to care for everyone around you, and if your morality is compromised by your anger for saving two clearly fucking idiots lives, then you don’t belong in the water!
In many places, the dive master is not there to herd you or to help you. My diving in the Bahamas generally has the dive master staying on the boat. You're certified, so you're supposed to be able to look after yourself, not need a nanny underwater.
Patrick Swayze idiot, its no ones responsibility to look after someone else! Every certified diver is responsible for themselves. That’s it. These two were certified and if PADI the lad was likely only trained to 12m/33ft. At nearly 50m, these two were narced out their tree, but we all know about the quality of training in the Asia’s and their attitude towards diving sensibly. ....
James Powell are you referring to me or the diver as the idiot here dude?
This is why we have dive buddies, and any moral person would take care of those around them when under water, or ‘not my problem buddy’...
@@patrickswayze2596 if you think its my responsibility to look after you when we're in the same body of water, you are mistaken.
I will not come and rescue you and endanger myself just because you think its everyone elses responsibility to save you.
The only person you are responsible for is yourself! 1st rule of rescue course... don't put yourself in danger to save someone else.
I earned my c card as a freshman in high school and remember being drilled about situational awareness, keeping track of your time and air, learning and knowing decompression tables (before dive computers), and looking out for your dive buddy (each other). I can tell that these two young men had no business being on a dive that deep, especially with a camera to distract them. They look completely clueless. Thanks for being there for these two kids. They avoided the grim reaper that day.
You’re a true hero Aaron!
I truly hope this incident didn’t harm you in anyway
As a diver myself it terrifies me watching this video and I pray I’ll never be on the same boat with them ever, but I’m also glad that diver like you exist
Thank you!
You were truly a guardian angel here - wish every diver paid as much attention as you did in this video
Please tell me they were thankful and understood the gravity of the situation after the fact.
FfejTball they didn‘t look scared or bothered in any way. The stupids would got back in reality when no more air would come out of the regular in 120 feet.
Militant Dr. Dolittle they could be suffering from nitrogen narcosis
Gaming Help. Nope. I figure they were just not trained well. Or, didn't habe much to live for.
Maybe the two divers were already narked that is why they were totally unaware of what is happening, good thing there was a hero to save them!
@@Lex_chats From this deep, I needed about 15 minutes to reach the surface, or more!!!
The sad truth is: the fast ascend from 150 ft (!) could have even gone bad for you, in which case their supidity would have put you in harms way as well...
Right?? I'm inclined to armrest judge and say the dive master's absence and lack of awareness really bothers me, not just for those 2 divers but also the health and safety of our rescue diver.
But were they at a place where they needed decompression stops?? (Sorry is this sounds dumb I only have 8 dives)
@@rschmidtschmidt6810 They did not need "deco" stops, but they had exceeded recommended dive times, which puts them all in risky territory. At 1:52, you can see on the computer that he's at 130ft with 0min NDL(No deco limit, or time remaining at that depth without having a decompression obligation). He then descends to 150ft. At 2:52 when you see his computer, you can just make out that he has acquired a deco obligation, albeit minimal(2min @ 10ft, which will have been accounted for by the time they ascended and completed their safety stop), but it shows that his dive profile fell outside what is considered "recreational safe limits". The pair were deeper for longer, so they would have been at greater risk.
The ascent also causes issues. The MAXIMUM(not recommended) ascent rate is 60ft/min below 60ft, and 30ft/min from 60ft to safety stop. That means the absolute quickest(outside an emergency) you should be getting to the SS from that depth is 3min.
Then you have nitrogen narcosis. I've only been to ~130ft, and I've felt it. It's probably why these 2 forgot all about air and dive times and living. It can make rescuing a diver more difficult. Throw in the potential of uncontrolled ascent due to panicking/narced divers, complications due to running out of air or one of the rescued divers suffering from DCI(maybe they were on their 3rd dive for the day? They would have been well into deco if that was the case)
It all adds up to a great deal of risk for the rescuer that he shouldn't have to be dealing with...but he's the one who got his rescue ticket, so....
@@YZedMB ok I see, thank you for explaining that to me.
Adding a note here, based on the note these guys are OW only, which is limited to less than 60ft. Most narcosis is at 100ft+ (although it can happen at shallower depth). So the fact that these guys went deeper than 60ft on their own is already diving outside of their comfort zone and diving beyond their limits. So if they do narc, that was because of them pushing their limits in the first place
'Situational awareness' is the hallmark of a competent diver. Great work. Your dive leader needs a refresher on that subject
Wow....good work, dude. I've been diving for years and after a lot of experience (which includes wreck dives to 130') I can say the only real reason to dive deep like this is to get to a wreck or another specific thing to see. Otherwise, there is typically no reason to dive below about 60 feet. In fact, most reef dives under 50 feet have been my favorites. Even dives on 3000 foot walls in the Caymans we stayed at about 60 feet for bottom time. Lots of color, fish, critters etc...and we see lots of stuff, including sharks, large rays, etc. Most people, including the people in this video, have no business diving a wall that deep....and the good news is, you don't need too to see things!
Couldn't agree more.
As the dive leader, I wouldn’t allow them to dive the next dive. No way.
Absolutely. They would not have been allowed back in the water! I would have shown the video to
the "alleged" dive master's boss and help put him on the road! Notifying PADI and offering the video to show the quality of this operation would be a good idea too.
Assuming they are certified divers, I doubt PADI would do anything. You are responsible for yourself as a certified diver, the guide is there as a guide.
That being said, I wouldn’t take them on the next dive, either. I’d hope nobody would. With their depth and bottom time, they’re out anyhow.
The first mistake is the dive master who should check people. People are often stupid that is why u have professionals to watch over them. U don't leave people behind, u suppose to monitor them.
Considering they were at 140-150 feet for a few minutes, they would have gone over their safe bottom times anyways and wouldn't be allowed to dive for 24 hours.
What about a shallow dive? I think it might not be a bad idea to have them dive at an "off-gas" depth as a prolonged safety stop. Who knows how long they were at depth!
Would live to hear some of the back story on what was said after the dive both by the 2 you rescued and by the dive guide.
Aaron, well done on being attentive. It is crazy how fast the air goes at that depth. 140 is my personal max depth and it was for maybe a minute. I am glad you took it upon yourself to go check on them. Many would just say "it is not my concern" and I am glad you did the right thing. You would think the DM would take a moment to count noses once in a while. All the best!
My skydiving training taught me to constantly and always check your altimeter so you know when to deploy the parachute at a safe height, in this case, your dive computer to know how deep you are and how much air you’ve got left. I think this should be emphasized more with scuba diving. It should be engraved in everyone’s brain! You are a legend for saving their lives…
How many people in skydiving just rely on audible altimeters? When I was still active it seemed like that was very common. I wonder if they have something similar for scuba.
@@fleafrier1 that’s a good point actually. I personally wouldn’t just have the audible, I’d want a second backup, another altimeter that I can actually read the numbers. I was told some scuba dive computers make noises or the screen flash when it detects that you are doing something dangerous but I don’t know for sure
@@Aileen0826s That’s how I rolled. I used an audible but always had an old school altimaster 3 on the back of my left hand. But sometimes in bigger freefly formations I couldn’t look at it because I was too busy concentrating on flying. Then again, looking at the ground approaching is also a decent backup and I could still do that. Unfortunately I don’t think visual cues like that exist in scuba. It seems like you just have to pay attention to your instruments at all times.
Thanks for posting this. Should be a must watch for divers.
Did they have any idea how close they were to being dead and that you saved them from most likely drowning.
Not very often you see true Hero's but Mate you are one. Hope you went on to be a D.M or an Instructor yourself.
ALWAYS ALWAYS check your air and depth!!! I am so OCD about that it's not funny!!!
Wade Howlett no other way to be, better safe than sorry.
Possible nitrogen narcosis? Or do you think they where just that stupid?
Narced for sure.. They didn’t respond to the check air signal either which is a globally recognised & used gesture
I'm not a diver. I know nothing about diving....But surely checking your air frequently is a fucking given....surely...
Rob Higgs I have dived about 11 times so far and I have to admit, when you throw any extra parts to diving, like cameras, navigation, checking out a brand new site, it gets easy to forget to check for a few minutes longer than normal, but these guys where so deep they must've been affected by nitrogen narcosis. Without any knowledge of it, you might just think you feel kind of euphoric, drunk, confident or anxious so it's not like these guys weren't showing signs of that.
That's not called OCD dude, that's called proper diving practices.
because of this dudes awesomeness you inspired me to go for my rescue diver cert just signed up
My heart was racing for all of you. I've dove in the Bahamas and I know your depth can be deceiving there. So glad you were watching them.
Im extremely late to watching the video, but i have to say well done Aaron! You just saved 2 lives, and one of a 12 yearo old boy you say?! Amazing, you are a symbol of what all scuba training stands for!!!! Poses so many questions, specifically at the depth that young boy was at
Our instructor showed us this video during our Rescue Diver class this last weekend......holy cr@p! Good on you for such heads up diving!
I also dive with a ProPlus computer. It looks like you were definitely maxed on on your nitrogen loading. Again, wow!
Maxed out? He/they incurred a deco obligation...
good video to review alwiz.. i safe this as my reminder
2 minutes to come up 125 feet is too fast. You all got very lucky that day and god bless you for being aware enough to get them out of harms way. I did exactly the same thing in Mexico for a woman that had narc'd out and was just on her way to nowhere. She was toast and didn't even care. recreational diving can be very dangerous for the un-certified.
these guys were lucky they didn't get narc'd! Cause then I don't know if it had been easy enough to save them.
It was at the official limit until '96, when the official limit got halved for reasons. Video does say "2.5 mintes" not "2 minutes," which is 25% more time and 80% the speed.
Given the air supply, I reckon it was worth it. 400 PSI is 27.2 atmospheres, and they were down at 45.7 m, which is 5.6 atmospheres, so on a 20 litre bottle that guy had about 4.86 minutes of taking it easy or 3.4 minutes of breathing like he's getting a moderate workout before he stopped getting air and sucked water. Going up 30.7 m to the bottom edge of where they had any business being reduced the pressure to 2.5 bar, more than doubling the time he had, but would take 3 minutes if done at official 10 m/min ascent rate, leaving him not much air while he was still 15 m down.
Going up to 4.57 m in 2.5 minutes is 2.5 x 25 x 5.6 = 350 litres of air used, out of his starting 27.2 x 20 = 544 litres, leaving 194 litres, which at 1.5 bar will last him 194 / (25 x 1.5) = 5.17 minutes and he's only half a minute from the surface, which gives the rescue diver time to pause, check a dive table, see whether they need a decompression stop, hand over his octopus if necessary, wave over a friend with plenty of air and another octopus et cetera.
Hmm. Found a depth-time chart in feet and it doesn't even have a column for 150 feet (because oxygen toxicity is a thing so you don't go down there on 20% oxygen).
130 feet for 10 minutes requires a 5-minute decompression stop at 15 feet, according to another card I just looked up (mine are ... in a cupboard ... somewhere). Yep. Time to get a friend over with some spare air in his tank.
TJGermany They were definitely narced! At that depth everyone is even if people will claim they're fine. The lack of response when asking an aircheck was a sign. The single mindedness on taking pictures another.
@@Yggdrasil42 you won't necessarily be narced at that depth, but the chance is pretty high. I have friends that have been 200+ ft on air and had no narcosis, granted it was only for a minute or two on the first dive of the day. Regardless of how easily you get narced, you should have hundreds of dives above 100' before attempting deeper. Deepest I've been was on my 96th dive @120' Channel Islands. I was nervous a bit, but no narcosis because it was first dive of the day and we went straight there and wormed our way up a wall to 80-90ft. When in doubt, error on the side of safety!
Good job! I have about 100 dives and still have never used a camera on any dive, I think it's important for me, because I dive only on trips to other countries where the water is warm and clear, to focus on doing a good job of maintaining neutral buoyancy, watching my gauges, breathing correctly, and just enjoying where I'm at and what's around me, living in the moment, and not worrying about getting a good photo -- everything I'm seeing while diving has been photographed countless times and I can view images online of all of the fish, corals, and other life forms and natural formations that I see while diving. And they're better quality. I've seen other divers get too focused on trying to take as many photos as possible and they've often not only missed out on seeing something amazing, but they've also used up their air too quickly from moving around too much and sometimes even run into corals and other divers.
I couldn't even finish watching this video. I am deathly afraid of drowning, and if fear gripped me just watching a video, I cannot imagine how those poor divers truly felt.. God bless all of you rescue divers, and all of you calm, cool, collective divers who can react favorably to emergency's like this one. You all restored my faith in human beings again.
Really, really, really great job, dude! You saved two lives on this dive. When you filmed their faces near the surfaces, everything made a sense to me: I looked so often - dozens over dozens of times - in those "cold" faces of divers who are simply not ready or suitable for this sport.
As a psychologist, I regularly get the impression (!) that there are countless divers that are not suitable for this sport because of their personality structure, attitudes and/or mental ressources. They dive with absolutely no care to themself or toward their buddies, they stay totally passive, even in great danger, or they behave in a highly risky manner without any concerns or situational awareness. And these "cold" faces seem to show me that their minds dissociate to some degree from the moment they jump into the water. In my opinion, their minds are in a state somewhere between clear and trance-like.
I can't speak about these two people but I will agree that there are way too many people who simply do not understand how dangerous diving is. Or maybe it is that they don't care?
@@realworkoutsforrealpeople5041 They just think they are the main character and nothing bad can happen.
Most people these days don't even have the capacity for critical thinking, let alone applying theory involving math and sciences to any situation.
@@SeanHenrichs I suck at math and I still understand how diving works. You don't need to be great at application of the booksmarts to be able to at least use safety checks
@@Snartfoodler which pretty much proves my point 🤷
Good work, Aaron. I'm a green horn scuba diver with less than 40 dives under my weight belt, but I keep cheking my gauges and computer (and asking my buddy, usually mi wife) all the time, even if it means that I miss this big grouper of that wonderful lobster that the rst of the group is enjoying. Gas and depth control first, and then fishes and pics.
Yup. A good dove is where you come out of it. Alive. All other things 2ndary
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Aaron hagen, wow you are truly a hero, when I watched the video I thought you were the dive leader, and thought wow good job saving those boys and keeping a good eye on them, however when I found out you were just another diver and not the leader wow, it wasn't even your job to be looking out for them , but it seems your training doesn't alow you to not pay attention to all that is going on around you, you dealt with that situation very well and I view you as a hero , good for you bud. I do have some questions , where was there dive leader? how did they get to that depth without someone stopping them? and holy shit that is scary. I have about 8 dives under my belt but I do know the dangers of diving especially deep dives , they scare me. I find that diving is very easy, it's knowing what to do in the momment something go's wrong, and I am very great full of the trainers I had we focused on all the what ifs and recognition of dangers situations and how to deal with them. I took ssi. great video bud and I'm glad you have posted it so other less experienced divers can also see the dangers of diving if the proper steps arnt taken to insure safety. your a hero in my books bud!
+Scott Payton Thank you for your kind words Scott. Keep Diving! It's a whole other world down there!
@Scott Payton I couldn't have said it better myself ! Great save @David Hagen this could have been a terrible day of diving for everyone there if it wasn't for you looking out and being a great dive buddy! Glad everyone lived to tell the tell. Those boys will be paying Davy Jones a visit one day if they keep diving like they did in this video. None the less i'd dive with you any day!
150 feet it's about 45 meters. Those guys, did they got any sign of DS or they were ok? Fast descent(
Well said. MASSIVE respect to @Aaron Hagen for saving those 2 divers. They were absolutely mad to not pay attention to their gauges.
The OP saved those 2.
I dove with Stuart's Cove last year, they take a lot of inexperienced divers out, but since there are only 2 main dive operators on that island and a lot of divers come from everywhere, you can understand how complacent dive masters can get.....totally the dive master's responsibility to be watching these guys. Aaron you are a true hero, you put your life at risk to save these (2) idiots. My Dad was a dive master at Turks and Caicos islands for a number of years and told me countless stories of idiots like these, where he had to chase after divers that go way too deep and forget to watch their air gauges. Scary, scary....heading out this week to take my advanced open water dive/course....want to be a safer diver. Safety is #ONE!
As soon as I heard vocals in the music I said "nah, I'll skip this one"! LOL
I was diving with my uncle and dad one time in Key Largo on the Molasses reef that is only 30 feet at the max. I'm 5'2" and at that time about 150 lbs. They both are large men so, I invariably use less air than they do. I normally check my gauges every 5 minutes or so and more often as the dive progresses. I was glad I was in that habit on this dive. We all had ~3000psi when we began. At the first check, I saw 2500 more quickly than I thought I should have. I checked with the guys, they also had about 2500. Thought it was strange but kept diving. The next time I compared with them, I was at 1900, they were at 2100. A few minutes later I checked with them again and I was at 1250, they were at 1700. I signaled I wanted to go up because I was losing air too quickly. Back on the boat, I took the first stage off and while the o-ring didn't look new, it didn't look like it needed to be replaced either. I switched tanks and joined my dad and uncle for the last part of the dive. Always check your air and compare with your buddy/buddies. Accident averted because we were diving smart and within our limits.
holy shit they are incredibly lucky to survive.
Why ? Not there to hold hands and check spgs if u are qualified u are responsible
Well done guys! They well may have died or been severely bent without your intervention. This is a heads us to newer divers. As a Dive Maser/ Instructor, I can really appreciate what you did.
1. When diving in foreign countries. You can’t always expect the same safety standards of the US and Europe.
2. It is your job to keep reasonably close to the dive master if you want to take advantage of his/her local knowledge/expertise. And you can;t always expect them to constantly keep track of everyone. Although in a perfect world they would.
3. The divers in trouble were obviously narced. And were clearly not diving within their limits. Great for you to observe this and do the right thing!!
4. Dive Mastering and Instructing are a huge responsibility. Sometimes divers lie or exaggerate their skills.
It wasn’t clear to me how many divers were on the deep dive. Whether the Dive Master was inattentive or not when you are told that the dive will be an advanced dive; be honest. You can’t and shouldn’t depend on the Dive Master with your life. He may watch you like a hawk, and he may not. You are both usually strangers to each other. It’s you life!
At first I didn't like the video for the music and for the protagonists "hero-attitude". But this was a really good job! Actually saving two lives, risking his own (nitrogen narcosis and whatnot).
Lol her didn't risk that at all
@@Wild-Coma........do you know how diving works? Genuine question. 😅
hero attitude ?! 1) it totally wasnt his responsibility to look after other divers, only his dive partner. 2) His dive went from one of relaxed recreation, to one of watching/monitoring/ practically babysitting them. -- At a minimum the dive operation should have given him one free day of diving "on the house".
@@Gizziiusa I hope you're not a diver, if I understand your not-my-problem-attitude correctly. Everyone is responsible for everyone else. There is no you're-not-responsible. Of course the smallest group of divers consists of two people who are primarily rersponsible for each other. But diving is a team sport, to me the whole life is and everyone's your teammate. I hope I just got you wrong.
@@wassollderscheiss33 Was never told such in any of my dive training. You are responsible for yourself, and to your dive partner (to an extent). Divers are presumed to be certified, thus be able to manage their diving situation/parameters/etc.
been diving off and on for 30 years, NAUI master diver trained.
Been on numerous ocean dives and never heard a dive master utter worlds like "ok, everyone is responsible for everyone else".
personally, I dont think you know what the hell you are talking about (unless you are from another country like the UK ?)
I just saw this today...12 years after the fact. You were an angel that day.
WOW! Great job Aaron!! It's chilling to see 2 people that would have drowned saved right before our eyes! Thank God you were there man.
50m.... in fact they were already in the decompression time zone...
roro zooc damn. Should've received some surface support I guess but at least they didn't suffocate.
Wow....Thank God you were there to look after these two inexperienced divers. The Dive Master should have taken notice of anyone not certified to dive that deep and kept a close eye on them. Maybe have two dive masters if you were a large group. These two guys have no idea what horror would have awaited them had they run out of air at 150-foot depth. At 400 PSI you would think they would have started to notice the low tank forcing them to work a little harder sucking air for each breath? It comes with experience. In my earliest dive years 1987, the low tank signal to go up was 500 PSI. Today, they have moved that up to 700 PSI for obvious reasons. In my earliest years of diving, I learned what a low tank of air felt like and would notice without a depth gauge. That might work at 35-feet or even 60-foot depth, but not at 150-feet. You are SOL if you figure that out at that depth.....you were truly a guardian angel to keep watch on these two young divers. Hopefully you made this a learning experience for both the divers and voiced you're disapproval to the negligent dive master. I've learned when you dive outside the US, where a lawsuit for negligence will quickly put you out of business, you must always look out for yourself and your equipment. I usually rent when traveling and have experienced two equipment failures in Mexico. Once I had a gauge that didn't work at all. The 2nd time I was leaking air slowly into my BCD. Both would have been a disaster for inexperienced divers.
It might not have been horrific. They might have got lucky ... and dropped into oxygen toxicity depths before they ran out of air. Out like a light without even knowing there was a problem, down into the depths and never seen again.
That was an amazing rescue, 150 isn't even recreational depth! Looks like those divers had an amazingly trained guardian angel.
Great awareness and a wonderful attitude. I hope this video inspires capable divers and warns those of us who are less experienced.
FANTASTIC WARENESS...Thanks a lot for the video and for the rescue...
CONGRATS
They were lucky you were there. That's a perfect example of task loading (photography) on divers that were clearly not ready for it. If you can't even keep track of your own depth and gas you certainly don't need other things piled on top of that.
I've been scuba diving since 1964,Monastery Beach Carmel 1000+ times, also Bahamas, Sea of Cortez, 2 wrecks off Massachusetts, and Maine. Depth is dangerous for many reasons and the reward is not very high. The big problem is narcosis (loss of brain function) at depth. If you plan on diving deep, you are throwing the dice. Aaron appears to have saved these two kids, he deserves praise.
Any deep dive should be a "bounce dive"=hit your max depth, then ascend and dive at reasonable depth. You have no bottom time at 150+feet so get outta there.
EXCELLENT ADVICE.
Woah! Great job. My heart stopped when I saw 400 psi - sitting at my computer. I don't know how it would have felt at 150 ft.
***** No shit, without 500 psi at least at 15', I'm like that was close. 400 psi at 150', no time to do a rest stop and surprised DC did not occur...
anthony kent They were breathing air so i wonder if they became euphoric and starting ignoring their training...
I feel hackles on back my neck!
It's a shame that there is no way to revoke a diver's certification (like a driver's licence) when a diver is so stupid.
islandlifestylephoto Definitely nitrogen narcosis. Everybody gets it at around 30m or deeper but it's a subtle proces that inexperienced divers often don't recognize. The more you dive the easier you recognize it. Doesn't mean you'll make better decisions though ;)
I was holding my breath the whole time. You my friend are a brave hero risking going past 130 to save these two and without you there I’m almost certain that would be their last dive. Man I want you in every dive I go
They are fantastically lucky you were around, and taking note of the whole group. I hope more people become a diver like you.
I have a question - as a beginner diver. When you inflated your bsd and deflated their - did you take them right away to the surface ( i know seriously crazy risky due to nitrogen and that sick depth) because i dont think they had enough air to make propper stops, or you just had safety stop at 15 ft?
I was in hawaii ( molokini crater) and the dives there are like walking in paradise...you dont even notice the depth...visibility is just too good. But i dive in vancouver (cold green waters) and these dives are very challenging... At 80-90 feet you are like in total dark...can barely see your own hand...
Thank you and hat off!
I see...you did safety stop only...dod you (or they) had any health issues after that? I assume you all used pure oxygen right away.
These guys are so lucky to be alive and that you were there. I don’t know that I would have gone to 150’ and put myself in such danger. How long did you deco for? Did someone drop a tank down?
Great job you saved two peoples life. Honestly I am 13 and I dive well within my limits I usually dive 60 ft but sometimes I go 10 feet deeper. My dad is 44 and is always watching out for me I only have 20 dives total. My dad was so proud of me on the test I got an 80% the day I got my certification I was so happy I felt on top of the world. After 6 months of diving my dad got me a dive knife and a new mask. I have a zeagle ranger BCD and I am just happy I get to spend my time in the ocean ever since I got certified I have 24 hours total underwater. These divers need to know their limits who takes a 12 year old 150 feet that's crazy.
sorry, but 80%? Everyone in my class came out with 90%+
Net_Chix_AnKill? So what .
@@huntersihelp Pretty rude comment, he was really young and who knows, he may get test anxiety as evidenced in part by his euphoria at passing and getting certified.
Net_Chix_AnKill? What a Dick comment
Being a new diver I’m constantly checking my computer and gauges and thinking about my training and limits while underwater. These videos make me so nervous for those people to be diving more after that.
You are exactly the type of contentious diver I would love to dive with!
Contentious?
I’ve intervened during a few dives where I’ve seen exactly the same thing. Inexperienced divers who are complacent or incompetent. Well done to you, I hope they appreciated and understood what you just did. Dive safe, always check your equipment, always dive within the parameters.
Seriously good job man! They were lucky that you were there.
Excellent choice in the music to move this drama along appropriately.
I'm taking scuba classes this week. We are doing the pool tomorrow. The hurricane is preventing us from the ocean this weekend. This is crazy. Were only going 60 foot max. I'm nervous as hell
I just started my open water certification, and one of the biggest things the instructors are stressing is ALWAYS check your air pressure. Without even looking you should know your air pressure within 300 psi
Speaking as an instructor - very well done Aaron. This situation could have turned out to your own disadvantage as well as theirs but you pulled it off and very likely saved two lives. I wonder what the guide was doing meanwhile - did someone else have an issue that he might have been dealing with, or could he have been out of no decompression time or even air himself? How many dives had he done prior, if any (granted the depth of this one)? Was this a seasoned guy or a new holiday DM? Had he done any dives with these two before or was it the one where they suddenly revealed their own incompetence?
The only issues I ever had underwater were always due to somebody elses usually undeclared ambitions. More often than not oblivious guys with new cameras ... I think always be wary of people with new gear and something to prove.
Aaron Hagen, you are a hero. When my buddy and I dive, our attention are just towards each other. Most likely will not help others. Those two nuts are probably already narc'ed. Many new divers wanted a dive camera first before even investing on a dive computer or regulator. That's the frame of mind and behavior that makes things really dangerous. All those dive lessons makes no sense to them. Just wanted to have something to brag about on social media.
If you've dived in SEA, you know what just happened:
CHINESE TOURISTS...
They keep doing smart act until nose and ear bleeding
If you’ve watched enough RUclips, you know what this comment is:
RACISM...
@@phill8599 idiot
@@mackenzieowens161 typical you
You Racist shit, I’m offended
I’m an advanced rescue diver and almost done with my master dive, when you said 400 psi at 150 feet my heart stopped for a second. Holy crap.
Thanks for being a head up diver and keeping an eye on everyone and being aware. YOU ROCK. BTW, this is my first ever comment on YT.
This "dive master" should be arrested he left 2 guys without even caring . Its just like murder
idiot ...
It's sad and immoral, but it's not illegal. Same thing applies in backcountry skiing. If you don't follow the guide's plan and go where you're not supposed to go and fall down a cliff, that's on you and your negligence (or lack of skill). Waivers are signed for this reason :(
I feel like my heart almost stopped when it said how much gas they had left. Those idiots have no idea how close they came to death.
No one here is holding to account The
actual responsible party: The FATHER
God bless you for being observant and helping those in need, you saved lives
Aaron, you are a TRUE HERO. Thank you for saving those lives.
OMG! 150 feet! They had no clue they were sucking 4.5x the amount of air they would at the surface. Good job spotting that otherwise your rescue would have turned into a recovery.
5.5x
they should ve. they ve been trained right? Probably in 3 days, in some shitty club....Thats why i dont believe in those express training...
I can't say enough good things about your heroic actions. I'm at a loss for words. They would be dead if it was not for you. Good on you bro! You literally saved that kids mother from unbearable grief. I'm guessing it was a father and son.
i understand people make mistakes and the results of those mistakes are fatal. you did good - giving them a chance to reflect on their errors instead of their faults published in a post-mortem report.
I’m glad for people like you brother. Thanks for being brave enough to save their lives.
Amazing job... Why can't we set a dive depth limit on the computer, resettable for each dive? I.e. Instructors presets the depth and if the person reaches that it starts alerting them? It seems like something that can be programmed in the computer and somewhat avoid these situations.
I’m 16, I’ve been diving since I was 8 (so 8 years) and I’ve got 7 certifications with padi, I have a lot to learn obviously but I have been bought up being taught the dangers of stupidity underwater. This is seriously horrible to watch because not only does the guide not know the danger they are in, they don’t! They where very very lucky to have good divers keeping an eye on them because there’s gonna be a time when the only diver who can see them is a Dsd. That’s when they’re gonna have a big big problem.
The Divemaster said only advanced divers can go below 100'? Really? Wow. I have 300+ dives. Am a Rescue Diver currently doing theory for DM . . . the limit for OW divers is 20M (60'), for Advanced and Rescue Divers, 30M (90') and for those with a Deep Diving specialty course 40M (120'). Anything beyond that is Tech Diving world. Sure, we have all pushed those limits or maybe even broken through them, but on a professional dive boat tour?? . . . this dive was doomed before it started, by an unknowledgeable or unconscientious DM.
+Oliver Buchmann
The PADI advanced course used to go to 40 meters.
+Oliver Buchmann 20m = 65 feet, 30M = 97.5 feet, and 40M = 130 feet.
Advanced Open Water - 30 meters. Deep Diver specialty - 40 meters.
Not since I started diving! In the adnav=nced you do the FIRST dive of the Deep Dive course. which on certification qualifies you to 30m. FINISH the deep dive spec and that's 40m (another 3 dives and some more theory!) I've come across MANY divers who thought they'd done the deep dive spec because they had done their advanced course. There are Divemasters who are only qualified to 30m!!
PADI AOW max. 40m
wow... they were dead without your intervention. Can't believe they floated to nearly 150'... that's insane.
W - O - W!! You saved 2 men's life. You are in deed amazing, very, very good job!!!
I know I'm well late to the party here as watching in 2020, but you my friend are a bloody hero! God bless 🙏
The guide should have never allowed the group of inexperienced divers to split up. Then losing track of people wouldn't have happened. Piss poor job on their behalf.
Great job on your part, taking the initiative to fill in for the missing guide and saving these poor fools.
The guide, is just that a guide. As certified divers you, and only you are responsible for your dive. A DM can't be in all places at once looking after multiple divers. If divers are so inept that they can't plan a simple Rec dive on a benign reef, then they either shouldn't be diving or hiring a Pro as a buddy
@@TwelvePaws The point of diving with a buddy or group is precisely to keep an eye out for each other and spot when one is acting odd before it becomes serious, not just to have an emergency source of air. You never abandon your buddies during the dive because "they are responsible for their own dive". Recreational diving standards are built on the very assumption of care and support from each other. Fully independent solo diving is a special category of technical diving, far beyond recreational standards in terms of prerequisite experience and equipment.
It takes only 4-5 dives to become certified for recreational diving. A diver at that stage is in no way able to be responsible for themselves yet and it's very easy to get distracted by all the cool sights. It takes quite a few more dives to cement the knowledge into second nature and develop situational self-awareness. The basic certification alone does not grant experience. That comes after.
So, the DM should be aware of the experience levels in their group and keep close tabs on the newbies and the underage, especially if the site offers the risk of easily dropping too deep or presents obstacles that obstruct sight. The risk and safety of taking any given group down is ultimately the DM's call, they take the responsibility to bring everyone back safely. The DM calls the shots, who dives with whom, when and how, or even if. If their group is too big or the experience level too low for them to manage, then they shouldn't do it, and should reorganise/redistribute the group in a safer way.
Thank God you were there man...
Resort dive instructors are notorious for letting stuff slide. Namely letting newbies dive to 140ft when the recreational limit is supposedly 130ft.
Andrew Skeith Recreational limit is 60 feet, resort dives less.
I've had a similar experience: inexperienced buddy who went past planned depth. Not responsive to signals. I made sure the diver was negative and did a controlled swimming ascent with them. The diver was fine afterward. You are a lifesaver. Those divers we're lucky to have you there.
I'm an Open water, I'm super conscious with my depth and air. I always dive within my limit. Thank God u were there. 😇
That's a very good habit. Check your air and pressure often. And be aware of your depth at all time. If you aren't comfortable at certain depth, give yourself plenty of margin of safety. Keep building those good habits
you are qualified to be a dive master
Wow! They are lucky you noticed something was wrong!
I know this vid is old but WTH was that diving instructor doing?
Nice work, you are a hero.
Great job being very aware of not only your guys, but others as well...Scary, scary lesson to learn. Sent chills...
Really amazing incident. You were a God send. Saved two lives that day.
@TheCosmicEntity I don't usually respond to the comments because I get so many of them, but the assent was definitely a quicker one than my dive computer wanted me to go. But under the circumstances I had no choice. Thanks for the comment..
I know this is a necropost, but as my dive instructor said, "we can fix bent (usually), we can't fix dead."
Unfortunately , the same happened to me stupidly
I had 25 bar left at 30 meters deep because i was busy taking pictures of eagle ray
My instructor gave me his reserve regulator and we did the safety stops till we surfaced
Whenever i remember this day my heart bounds so heavy and so fast
And after this ...the first lesson in my head
Always check your depth
Always check your oxygen
Tarek Nasr doooood saying oxygen instead of air gives a fucking aneurysm
Navy lets you hit 130 on air max (any deeper requires special authorization) and that’s with top of the line, expertly maintained equipment, and the most intense and thorough dive training in the world. This is why I get scared diving with civilians.
Nice work brother! These fellas better have bought ya many beers. Great composure, great patience, I'd dive with you anytime.
PADI OWSI here. You definitely saved lives - although risking your own in the process.
Fast ascent from 40m can go ugly easily. Now (with the wisdom of hindsight and not being there myself) I'd say I'd bring them up at max allowed by computer and when they run out of air, share my air. You could even share air for both if they buddy breathe (pass your octo between each other and exhale while other is inhaling). I'd stop at 5m until all air is nearly exhausted (and signal anyone I see to come and share their air to us) to minimize the risk of DCS.
And to top it off I'd report the DM and the company to certifying agency. Checking certs by people lifting hands?! Leaving OW divers unattended way below their depth rating?! And leaving when it's obvious these two are narked and just an accident waiting to happen.