Why grifting health gurus are TAKING OVER TikTok & Insta
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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The doctors??? I mean, these people all have credibility issues for sure but the doctors is a platform that hosted Dr. Oz. That guy's grifting blows all these others away. Also, not all doctors are the same and grifting is fairly common in the profession. I think David knows that
For everyone out there that want to change eating habits, I would recommend reading book called The 21 former doctor secrets by rachel morgan, she is talking behind industry
Social media BRAIN ROT! The internet(while positive in many ways) is just as negative too. Take be back to the late 80's and early 90's BEFORE the internet 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Or for those who want to get excellent info for free- Dr Ken Berry and Dr Shawn Baker have a library of free vids on YT.
@@StephenHuntsaround the time we all started REALLY getting fat. Great!
@@specks_alot Not attributable to the *medical* community but to the food industry, as well as the over-acceptance of physical conveniences to the detriment of necessary physical activity.
Doctors don't keep secrets
I used to watch Eric Berg until I found out he's a Scientologist. I couldn't take him serious anymore.
His son has shared that he claims he is one of the beings that designed the human body. And millions of people are watching him like it's normal.
Yeah those are all quacks and MD’s are the best. No wonder why America has the fattest adults and kids. 😂
He's not a medical doctor. He's a chiropractor 😂
He keeps this part of his life private. It doesnt have any relation to his good nutrition advice
Same here. Couldn't watch him after I found out he's in a cult.
I didn’t know Berg was a Scientologist. I must admit, he inspired me to intermittent fast and cut down on sugar and I’ve had really good results. Just one man’s experience.
there you go.... the contribution some of these influencers are doing in educating common people to get health back in there lifes is huge ... don't discredit them by targeting there religious beliefs.
@@risingstar2758 Hear, Hear. He did an interview with Dr.Jason Fung oil fasting which was quite illuminating indeed.
Naa Dr Berg is legit. He advocates staying away from sugars and processed foods. He encourages people to eat a well balanced healthy diet. His stance on fats is that you don’t have to be afraid of them if you don’t mix them with carbs and processed foods
Yep. He helped cure my chronic heartburn.
While I don't love the Scientology thing, he basically does A LOT of research and then synthesizes the data into videos we can understand. It's always good to double-check him because he's been off a rare time or two...but tbh, he's more accurate than any doctor I've ever been to. Doctors deny my symptoms and throw prescription meds at me and yell "NEXT!"
I remember Bobby Parrish once said during one of his Costco trips that regular salt spikes your blood pressure because it’s bleached and that pink Himalayan salt doesn’t increase blood pressure because it doesn’t have bleach. You can’t be that wrong about something so basic and expect to be taken seriously. He has millions of subscribers.
I’ll take the pink salt please.
@@dabeestuff No pink salt for you.
@@TheIntJuggler 🤣🤣🤣
Regular (Morton) salt also spikes your blood pressure because it actually has sugar (maltodextrose!). Check the label!
@@gotmama2 Yeaaaa, no.
“Talk to your doctor”. Sure a guy who sees me once a year and then as fast as possible. RUclips has helped me a lot with health.
There is some truth to this. Not all doctors are created equal. It’s like finding a good mechanic. Also nothing wrong with Google doctoring. Just tread lightly. I tried the OMAD diet for 2 months. Felt pretty good. Then went in for my annual physical and my cholesterol was through the roof. My doctor, without batting an eye, recommended statins. I told him, “I think I have an idea of what it could be. Give me 3 months and I’ll retest.” 3 months later I came back and I was able to get my cholesterol under control through a change of diet and still felt great. All these “miracle” diets, exercises, supplements, etc. are preying on the desperate, lazy, undisciplined. The way I try to approach health is, do what I can through eating a healthy, varied diet, exercise regularly and try to minimize my stress. After that, seek out professional, certified medical help.
How often do you see your RUclips doctors?
So true, my doctor is available if I’m near death but for nutrition questions,😂
@@nealart the medical industry is about two decades behind nutrition research
Depending on who it is. That first lady? Come on. Dr Berg? I used to listen to him at first, then realized that he kept contradicting himself on different videos. I REALLY don't want to listen to him now, knowing he is only a chiropractor and a Scientologist.
Having a for profit medical system does not exactly inspire confidence and trust in that system. It's easy to see why so many fall prey to charismatic charlatans.
As an RN I can assure you folks who fall for this shit end up in my ER, usually at 3 am. So, we continue to leave the lights on for ya 27/7/365.
What a dumb coment 🙄.
Metabolic disease is what bring people in the ER, and they are sick from high glucose consumption.
If I had fallen for the ADA diet and insulin injections, which I would have by now if I hadn't found Dr. Berg in 2017, I wouldn't be on the planet today to write this comment. Your ER wouldn't have been able to save me.
Any video mentioning the Scientologist, Dr Berg, will have its comments filled by cult members.
@@SusanBameI think she means folks who follow the food pyramid and traditional American advice 😂😂😂
My two cents: I grew up in a cult. It’s sad how uneducated we are on using critical thought. Anytime I find someone online or irl who can be described as “charismatic”, this is a huge red flag. Look into their credentials diligently. It’s easier now than ever to become a “guru” of sorts, with accessibility to people’s feeds.
The pattern of someone taking the world by storm with their fresh, new ideas or energy thriving on their control/influence over others is so common. Look back at examples in your own life to see the pattern.
Thanks for breaking this down, David.
Unfortunately, the typical American diet, full of refined sugar and high carbs, is what the cult of our culture tells us to eat, and it is full of unhealthy foods. I like feeling good and being alive. High-carbs in our diet will not help us to feel good or stay alive. Dr. Berg makes sense.
Keto has proven to work for many. Seed oils have been proven to be terrible for you, but ok. Keep eating those Cheetos...
@@wjmrtnz1David didn’t tell anyone to eat Cheetos 😂😂😂 he’s just warning of nutritional grifters who are prey peoples ignorance.
@@Bobby_Digital37yup, "the dosage makes the poison". Just because you eat some products that include seed oils in their composition doesn't mean you have a bad diet. Along with good sleep and regular exercise you're on your way to long, healthier life.
Why was that woman yelling? That's obnoxious
She was really pissed at him!
2 morons going at it
I have been warning about these 2 for a while... He is a scientologist and listen to what his son says about him....She has been banned in Australia...
These two?
I saw that son video too
@@dlariby O'Neill and Berg.
unfairly banned from Australia though and guess what don't follow her if you do not believe in what she says. we do love her and we know she went to school she knows about science. Parkman, I will not follow you again you are not speaking facts. Also we know how to chose for ourselves we do not need advice from you people sold to big pharma
Leave Mrs O’Neill alone, she’s a servant of the God of the universe.
"This one simple trick........." and they never tell you what it is.
@@henrys3629 Eric Berg does all the time
I hate those kinds of ads
Well they get censored. America has the fattest adults and kids. Wow amazing MD system. Even RN’s and MD’s themselves are fat. 💰
One simple trick often works... for extremely few people. What my exact nutritional needs are will be different from yours. Basic trends are better than specific tricks.
Pakman did a great job explaining these diet griftings. I'm looking forward to the crypto grifting and Trump's grifting.
As someone who recently went through chemo and knowing how horrible it feels, one could easily be vulnerable to quack cancer treatments as you just wish to not feel that way anymore.
Yes, chemo definitely makes you feel like you are dying. But, I finished it almost two years ago and I feel good now. No evidence of cancer in my body at this time. So glad I got real medical treatment, backed by science.
What about those AG1 Greens? Didn’t you used to sell those on your channel? How much did you know, or not know about that product before you started promoting it on your channel?
yes, those are a scam too, they do not even tell you exactly what it contains.
Thankfully he doesnt do it often. Although. There was at one point one other sus product David was shilling on his endorsement/commercial breaks.
Complete scam. Peter Attia and Huberman are big investors and my god are they out of touch with reality of what is “affordable”
@@williesantos22 Attia and Huberman are, sadly, on record promoting pseudoscience. They're just as much grifters as many others. :(
AG1 is complete garbage, Wall Street money funded and ingredients are from China. Joe Rogan pushes that junk too.
Thanks for this,David
I am a Registered Dietitian and battle this BS every day. I regularly talk to people about how to recognize dis and mis information. It's never ending and exhausting.
Being a "Dietian", what is your bmi?
This very much needs more coverage.
45m here. Disabled veteran. The VA had me on no less than 15 pills per day (including 4x psych meds, 2400mg of gabapentin per day, lipid and bp meds, etc.) I weighed jusy shy of 300lbs and felt like I was going to die.
Switched to a well balanced diet of mainly baked or boiled chicken, fruit and veggies, coupled with crossfit 4x per week.
I now weigh 190, take ZERO pills and can live without needing a sweat rag 24/7. No more CPAP to sleep.
I guess my message here is that the VA will happily allow us vets to have another chance to die for our country so long as we take our pills like good little test subjects.
Eat right, limit sugar, limit soda and juice, EXERCISE! Be it a leisurely walk with the dog or a high intensity program (or anything in-between). Just move!
I have faith in you. You can do it.
All that said, there is good info amongst all of the channels you mentioned if you cherry pick and then do your own research.
Just eat some beef, pure beef. Watch Jordan Peterson? Don’t be like the dumb clown Paul Honeydino, eating liver everyday and got copper intoxication.
Exactly! Well said. They will push pills to make money. It's a medical-pharna-insurance scam. Do your own research and be sensible
Good for you! Impressive results and sounds like you have a rational approach.
How could you do that if you are disabled ?
@Melrose51653 i've had many shoulder and bicep surgeries and I work within my bodies ability. I started by simply walking an hour each day. That moved to jogging. From there I started at the gym and spent months focusing on proper form and body weight movements. Now I am able to do quite a bit, but you won't find me out trying to max what I can lift. I stick within my pain threshold. I actually just had a couple more MRIs done on shoulder and arm and am fully aware that more surgery is likely in my future.
Also, as mentioned by my partial med list, a big part of my disability is from mTBI (concussions). My memory sucks, my brain gets easily scrambled and i'm often in a very dark place psychologically.
DV does not mean you are out of the game. It just requires life modification (and a supportive family/friend structure).
Hope that helps a bit ✌️
I completely agree about these influencers, but also know that more people than ever are on statin drugs and it hasn't slowed heart attacks from blockages at all this is a fact and easily researched.
Well, in all my 70 years, I have NEVER been asked by a medical doctor what I eat. Never. They are not trained in nutrition. I was diagnosed about five years ago with a terminal liver disease. No cure! So I cut back drastically on carbohydrates. I eat no added sugar. After only six months of this way of life, I was pronounced cured. My liver function is completely normal. My blood pressure is normal. I have never felt better in my life. I never used seed oils and don’t eat any processed foods. The last time I saw a doctor, she asked me what I was there for since my health is perfect. I do not follow any of these “experts” but my own personal experience speaks for itself.
Congrats, and I wish you continued health.
well, if anything you said was true that would be great. But yes, everyone should ignore all the millions of people who spent collectively billions of hours studying, researching, testing and ultimately developing a knowledge base, and they should just go by their own experience. Because 3000 years ago before 'science', everyone lived longer because they knew nothing....
Anecdotal is not proof. Eating more plant based and less processed does help the body, it’s possible that some of what you did had an affect. However, it doesn’t mean seed oils or carbs are toxic. It also doesn’t mean you can’t have sugar or processed foods in moderation.
@@noitallmanaz there has always been science.
@@noitallmanaz You are oversimplifying the argument. Yes medical professionals receive the "wealth" of knowledge provided by research, testing and studies. However, EVERYTHING is becoming more and more corporate. The more you dig, the more you find that a lot of studies are funded not only by big pharma, but big agriculture and even food companies. Remember how tobacco companies were telling us smoking was actually GOOD for us back in the 20s and 30s (with "research" to back it up)? The same is happening nowadays, only it's getting harder to trace who funded the studies. Someone high up in the LANCET medical journal said that 50% of all articles published are bs.
The producers of seed oils use hexane to get the oil out, then get the solvent out of the oil with heat, which oxidizes the oil. Then it is bleached, then heated again to get a better color, then heat it again to make it smell better. Each time it is heated, the oil gets oxidized more; which is not a good thing. You want to put anti oxidants in your body, not oxidized oils. If they were cold pressed, it would be a different story; but that is not the cheapest way to do it and they are looking for maximum profit. David, you should do some research yourself.
@@craigkepchar2619 also heating any mono or poly unsaturated oil to its smoke point or keeping it heated for an extended duration (as is the case of deep frying) can form trans fatty acids.
And none of that will kill you if used in moderation. The food fear mongering on youtube is ridiculous.
@@jaust9077 The biochemistry behind the metabolic damage and development of chronic disease is too complex for the layperson to understand.
@@jaust9077sure. But it’s is most everything. (Processed)
So I’m not sure having warnings about it is so bad.
David I watched knowing you don’t actually know any of this science yourself. Not defending these people but you are way too far to the other side. You are speaking in absolutes that aren’t there.
Some of what these people say is true, but when they have their own supplements to sell you beware.
Dr Li is great. Dr Brooke Goldner is a life saver.
These types of grifters have been around since the 1800's, selling tonics or whatever, made from pure syrup and water. There was a point where people just didn't know anything about science or medicine but we know a lot now so there's no excuse. We keep falling for it though.
Why is America full fat adults and kids. Yeah continue seeing your MD’s and continue listening to the USDA on their health advices 😂
Yes, my favorite soda brand, Dr. Pepper started out just like this. It was sold as some sort of health tonic back in the day by a pharmacist.
@@lisabrightly no wonder why America is full of fat kids and adults
@@elmalifico3708 All the major sodas out there were. Coca-Cola had a tincture of cocaine in it. 7-up had lithium. Pepsi Cola had pepsin, a digestive enzyme. They syrup and carbonated water was a means of making the medicine go down easier. After the drugs were taken out, the flavored syrup stuck around because people developed a taste for it.
@@elmalifico3708 So was coca cola, pepsi and well all other pop that existed before 1930....
These grifters source is always: trust me bro! In a country with no free health you get people desperate to believe anything
believe phama I hope you do not die because you believe science. science isn't science anymore. Food is your medicine so we people will chose what we feel is good for us keep your science we know what is best for us
@@bridgetjubs7535Yeah, that Theory of Gravity is "just your opinion man." Good science works.
@@bridgetjubs7535 LOL. Good luck with that.
@@bridgetjubs7535You are the perfect mark for them. “Science is hard” and I don’t trust people that are smart
@@bridgetjubs7535 By that logic countries without a developed healthcare system would live longer lol. European countries that provide people with universal healthcare using mainstream scientific knowledge have better health outcomes by far.
If we had better nutrition available instead of factory foods loaded with refined sugar, fats, and salt, these sorts of diet fads wouldn't have nearly as much traction.
I agree. I was horrified when “Lunchables” came out, years ago. It is over processed junky food. It’s a pity that it is a multimillion dollar industry. I am 70 years old and pretty darn healthy. We always cooked at home, and I still do most of the time. I can remember the first time that I heard a young mother ask her very young child what HE wanted for supper. We didn’t have a choice, we learned to eat what we could grow (chicken, milk, made our own butter, grew all our veggies & fruits. Raised chicken, beef & pork. Gathered eggs. Canned, salted, dried or fermented our food. We didn’t have such a huge problem with overweight children or adults like we do today. The simple methods could be adapted to our food supply chain still today, but it is not cost effective to the owners of our food supply. The stock owners demand high profits & the food becomes adulterated while in the field or while being processed because shortcuts are taken.
@@jogafurkelly343 Greed destroys everything. It’s cheaper and thus more profitable to take nutritious foods and process them until they lose all flavor, then dump them full of salt, refined sugars, and fats to make them taste intense/addictive. Make them have low satiety and you have a recipe for massive profits. I mean, look at a photo from fifty years ago, you might see one or two fat people, say 250lbs, but none of the 300-500lbs people you can see every day at Walmart.
Hell, even the fresh fruits and vegetables they sell at supermarkets aren’t that great anymore. They taste like nothing and have like half the nutritional value of what was available fifty years ago. I grow my own jalapeños and ferment them to make my own hot sauce. I gave a taste to someone who was setting up medical equipment for my grandfather and you’d swear by his reaction that I had just gave him a taste of ambrosia. A friend of mine spent a month in France. She told me she ate like a pig having the best tasting food of her life and she lost 15 pounds! If it wasn’t for corporate greed and public corruption, we could easily have that here.
Cook you own food as much as possible. It's not hard
@@Craxin01 and they are the ones funding studies. I 100% value studies and recommendations from Europe over the US.
@@jamestonweki8071 indeed. If people could just do this, it would fix the majority of our diet. That is while I cringe when people say to eat a “balanced” diet. That means different things to different people. Shoot, I have seen it used to justify eating loads of things that most would consider unhealthy. Something can be technically true but not helpful.
There's also the problem of people faking illnesses on social media. Everything from cancer to dissociative identity disorder. That can create a false idea of what these illnesses are and how they impact people's lives.
Seed oils…one of most used seed oil is cottonseed oil. Since when is cotton a vegetable? Cottonseed oil is lubricant. Soy and Corn are also adulterated and processed to become oil. These oils ARE not food.
When Eric Berg started promoting his supplement to regrow hair I knew he was a snake oil salesman. I learned he was a Scientologist later. Wow, that woman grilling Saladino was some shrill piece of work. Yikes!
I've followed his advice for hair growth - I didn't use his supplement but use all of the ingredients - my diet doesn't contain horsetail or saw palmetto. I have sprouting growth on my head! I was balding! Now I'm growing hair.
Berg was incredible for information about keto when I was first starting out. I didn't realize he is a scientologist but it makes total sense. He has that vibe. Well, that sucks.
If anyone could regrow hair, no one would be bald, eh??😮
Didn’t his son come out against him for being a snake oil salesman?
@@SanMartianRoverI've followed him for a while learning about fasting and keto, just found out he was in a cult, never seen his supplements
It's equally or more important to call out our health care system for driving patients with functional medical problems to seek help online. Half or more of Americans over 40 who have consumed a standard American diet (SAD) have some form of digestive disorder. They go to their primary care doc, and what happens? Maybe they get an antacid and are told to forget about it. But the problem doesn't go away. Call out the quacks if you will, but the real problem is that there are millions of Americans suffering from functional medical issues that our health care system simply can't or won't serve.
Right? It’s a messed up system!
exactly! We didn't learn anything about nutrition in medical school. To say "talk to your doctor" is not good advice, unless they have an interest in nutrition, and few do. I felt like I was a pawn of the pharmaceutical company which I was in practice. I would go to diabetes conferences and wonder why there were hours of seminars on all the different diabetes drugs, but nothing on lifestyle changes, which should be the cornerstone of diabetes treatment before drugs. But they would always say "but we all know, your patients are not going to change their lifestyle or diet". Dr. Greger does a great job of presenting evidence-based nutrition, and has nothing to sell. "Who makes money on broccoli?"
@@RussianSportHorses yeah “talk to your doctor” ignores the fact there are other health professionals that are much more qualified to speak on certain matters. I don’t know how many times I tried to encourage people into going to physical therapist for injuries or pain but they won’t go because their doc didn’t mention it….Also going to a dietitian for a diabetic diet. Your doctor doesn’t know squat about a diabetic diet or to figure out how to help you with your eating. You have to go to a licensed dietitian-nutritionist for that. An MD doesn’t make a person an expert in every facet of healthcare.
Agree , and in European countries over 100 ingredients are banned to be used in food and drinks while those harmful ingredients are used here.
YOU ARE RIGHT!
David I generally like and agree with many of the points you make in other videos. However I think your views on this subject and video are uninformed. You may be knowledgeable on other subjects but I'm having difficulty believing that this is anything other than an attempt to click bait off of attacking those you may not personally agree with.
You said (at 16:40 mark) that, "doctors have no incentive to write prescriptions." This is emphatically untrue and disingenuous. I would encourage anyone to Google "anti-kickback statue/lawsuits."
Please David stick to what you're good at such as politics because this is a subject that will have supporters like myself looking at you with the side eyes.
it's illegal and you can be criminally charged, so how is that an incentive again?
I would think that big pharma are the biggest grifters given that pills prescribed tend to cause other problems and therefore more pills are prescribed to deal with health problems that are contracted as a result. Not to mention the high cost.
We’re over here watching these doctors because we don’t trust the damn pharmaceutical companies… Dr. Berg brought up a great point with how most Americans don’t get enough magnesium… I started taking magnesium and my blood pressure normalized. No longer high.
Yep.
David, Really enjoy your show. And while you reasonably should be skeptical of those trying to sell stuff online, you outkicked your coverage here. Certainly, you can poke holes in arguments. However, it cannot be argued that Americans are getting sicker and sicker. Diabetes, heart disease, cancers, and obesity are skyrocketing. Is that just bad luck? It's particularly strange in a time when medicine is the "best" it's ever been. Something is causal to the bad health. And while environmental factors may play a minor role, the thing that has changed in conjunction with this prevalence in disease, is the change in food to ultra-processed Frankenfood. It is a diet loaded with carbohydrate (including the 70 or so different names for sugar) and yes seed oils that is making people sick. Separately, the primary reason doctors continue to prescribe statins at such an alarming rate is because that is the "standard of care" and they are scared to be perceived as going against the AMA. Further, doctors are given precious little training in nutrition, with "all things in moderation" still the specious philosophy. I could go on, but the problem lies in the "food" we are eating. Whether it is primarily plant-based, or meat-based, or a combination; until Americans return to whole foods, and stop with the ultra-processed crap, we will continue on the current downward spiral until healthcare bankrupts the country.
It’s also Big Tabasco taking over Big Food - need addictive “food” so carby, tasty (flavor enhanced), fatty and salty/sweet. Seed oils are cheapest for their food products. A product can be made cheaply and sold for more. Junk food and proceed food costs more than real food. Food is supposed to be medicine. This formula is not proper human diet.
Too long. You are trying to convince yourself
Aside from people over eating, and getting too fat…. When was health better than today? If you look back in time health only gets worse in nearly every way…. If people use common sense and have a balanced diet they should be fine….
Whenever I hear someone claim to be an "influencer" my first thought is, grifter, conartist, wannabe, fraudster
There are both good and bad influencers. Just like everything
I roll my eyes anyone uses the word “protocol” instead of just saying the word “routine”
I see David as an influencer. I don’t think of that as a bad thing in and of itself. Many listen to him, think about what he says, and sometimes change their minds.
People watching RUclips are advised to use critical thinking skills. If they don’t, they may be duped. That’s just the way of the world. Also called “Live and Learn.”
Nutrition is a hot button.
It has been pretty well established that low carb diets such as Banting (which is different from zero carb diets), are beneficial in diabetes type 2.
It also depends on the patients. Some can eat as many carbs as they want without problems, while others cannot,.
If you have Ankylosing Spondylitis (often associated with acute anterior uveitis) or Crohn's disease, starches are out. These diseases are mediated by immune cross overs of Klebsiella pneumoniae. Klebsielle lives in the lower gut, and lives on sugars. Less sugars in the lower gut means less Klebsiella. And less attacks.
I agree that many promoted diets are ridiculous and even dangerous, but a lower carb intake might benefit a substantial number of us.
Seed oils are poly-unsaturated, and can become trans fats, especially when heated. Trans fats are unanimously considered to be unhealthy in large quantities. I Use coconut oil or butter for frying , olive oil for cold dishes.
Better not fry butter 🙈, you can use beef tallow or clarified butter (ghee) 😊
A few years ago the United Kingdom's Diabetes Organization came and literally said " Carbohydrates are NOT an essential nutrient" Just saying.
I never really like the Dr. Show. Geesh that one going over the top!!
David no disrespect , are you not doing what you are being critical about? There are things that work for some, others not so much. Peace!
While I would never tell someone what to do with their health care, I have known multiple people -- at least 3 -- who have reversed cancer on a raw food diet. Obviously that's not a scientific study, but I do personally believe there is something to it. And I've known multiple people who have died right after chemo. I don't think either path is a slam dunk.
I agree. I have known people who have cured various serious diseases with a whole food plant based diet or raw vegan diet. My concern with her is things like drinking water can cure Tetanus and some of her other claims.
@@RaeAnn_1202 admittedly I am not familiar with her on that level. Yes, believe I would have a similar concern, based on what you say.
Just eat food and walk places.
Amen. And have a treat, binge a series sometimes, moderation 😊
Bro everyone in this comment section is selling a diet 🤣
I had no idea how pervasive this issue was!!
bro you are ignorant.
@@demophys4883 Would I be less ignorant if I only ate raw elk hearts and drank dolphin piss? Reducing inflammation and kickstarting my metabolism?
The fact is that nutritional research is mostly funded by the food and pharma industry, At best studies have been preliminary, merely suggesting further studies to settle important questions. They have zero incentive to fund research that would point to ultraprocessed food being unhealthy and whole natural foods a part of the proper human diet. Any researcher who found that eating a diet of basic natural foods prepared at home would reverse diseases of civilization would never get funding again. Any recommendations that would result in fewer drugs being sold will never see light of day.
The whole system is corrupt. 60-70% of the standard American diet is made of ultraprocessed foods that are low in nutrition but high in profit.
thank you.science is no longer used to benefit people
This is true.
It doesn't completely discount the actual science, which despite all the torturing still says, yeah, eat a wide variety of less processed, whole foods and avoid having more than 5% of your calories be from animal sources.
But the fact that you point out, sure as h makes it really, really hard and confusing for anyone, especially people who think they're smarter than they really are, to sort through all the data.
Dr Greger does a good job of exactly that, for one, by going through literally thousands of studies and presenting them all on his numerous, numerous videos, but very few people want to hear that there's no shortcuts to health, that a balanced, whole foods plant based diet low in supernormal stimuli like processed sugars, fats, meat, etc is still the best path, that no pill or miracle drug will replace good nutrition.
We want the miracles, the shortcuts, the easy path and to hear that we can eat, drink, and do whatever we want and have no negative outcomes. So its hard to sort through the surge of profit motivated studies, incomplete preliminary trials, p-hacked data and the rest and find the most basic things like "does this make people sick?".
But ultimately better science is what fixes bad science, and nothing else.
You hit the nail on the head. The studies we all need will never see the light of day.
David, I love you, man, but the criticisms you're making in this video seem obviously simplistic if you know very much about nutrition. I'm only familiar with Saladino from this list, but your analysis was a bit cringe, tbh. I think all you really demonstrated was how to perform laughably reductive critiques on a topic you don't demonstrate much knowledge of.
This...
Yeah I like David but it was hard to watch this. Clearly is not familiar with subject material.
I think he did a good job. The aim of this video is to show there are MANY nutritional grifters out there selling lies with a goal of making money who are nothing even close to being a medical doctor or nutritionist. You have to do your own research, and these grifters prey on people who don’t.
@@Bobby_Digital37 But if his analysis doesn't demonstrate that someone like Saladino is a grifter because that analysis is so poor, then his coverage doesn't make that point.
If, for example, your aim is to raise awareness that politicians are vulnerable to financial corruption and you try to make that point via an expose of a particular politician who actually isn't corrupt, then your coverage is at best worthless and at worst counterproductive if people realize your arguments aren't good and stop taking you seriously. He only makes his point if he *successfully* makes the point, and he doesn't.
Agreed.....
Keto diet is the same as the Atkins diet…and has been successfully used in the treatment of children with seizure disorders dating back to the 1980’s.
And your medical experience, David?😮
Eg, it's not that seed oils are questionable. It's how they are processed for oil extraction and shelf life, chemical stripping and high heat application that makes them unhealthy. Haven't you ever wondered why so many different colors of the ingredients end up as the same pleasantly yellow color? LDL cholesterol is important for the brain. And there's more...
I agree. I don't consume seed oils.
Yes, David is himself dangerously wrong on this one. Seed oil is highly processed, a source of bad Omega 6 thats inflammatory. ruclips.net/video/CRohMEQm9ng/видео.html
The difference is David has studies showing the overblown reaction to consuming seed oils is reactionary. And he isn't trying to shill me something in place of seed oils.
I am very desapointed how he cherry picked those 3 youtubers, when there are SO MANY very very highly medically trained keto or carnivore doctors he could have chosen.
He has just lost my trust.
Truth
You wouldn’t believe what I went through by going to my doctor trying to solve a medical issue. I ended up finding the solution by watching RUclips videos and visiting a chiropractor who practiced homeopathy.
And I want to add that my insurance was willing to pay thousands of dollars for MRIs, EEGs and several different specialists to solve my problems. But they refused to pay for the chiropractor who actually gave me answers and solutions. I paid out of pocket for his service, and it was worth every single penny.
Yeah they're not usually medical doctors.
Many do not even believe that getting a vaccine booster is a good idea. Fauci got six boosters and he only got COVID three times. Anyone that does not obey the hivemind must be silenced by force. What kind of 1984 do they want?
Berg is a chiropractor. Abusing his “Dr” title.
What do "medical" doctors know about nutrition? Research how much training they get on the subject. While you are at it, look up the facts related to the "food pyramid" origins.
@@robertalexander960 food superstition; i've seen the fads come and go
You follow the ones THAT ARE.
I protested publicly when Barbara O'Neil came to our town. Her medical advice is highly dangerous.
She's a dangerous nutcase. Just my opinion.
What is highly dangerous in your opinion from her medical advice? Anyone can make claims, if you want to be taken seriously you need to back it up with some facts and not just attempt to smear someone’s name. She is a Seventh-day Adventist they belong to one of three blue zones in the world these are the people that live the longest as a result of good health.
@@mickexplorer It looks like you're biased in her favour so I'll quickly summarise some of the most dangerous things she promotes and not waste my time. David already mentioned most in the video if you actually watched it?
1. Cancer is curable through baking soda and not through chemotherapy or radiation.
2. You don't need ANY pharmaceutical medicines whatsoever if you have a serious illness, just take certain herbs and they will cure anything. This includes not using antibiotics or vaccines.
3. If for any reason a new mother cannot breastfeed, give a newborn baby unpasteurised goat's milk.
I couldn't get through 10 minutes watching her. Nothing she was saying made any sense
@@dawnroy8551 I see so you watched her for 10 minutes and concluded she’s highly dangerous. Got it👍
So the medical doctor is just as 'uncredentialed' as the person who failed nursing school? And then you attack him for a diet he no longer recommends? Traditional thinking on nutrition has also changed over the years. And how exactly is Saladino 'grifting'? It's fine to disagree on what the research shows (although then the question of YOUR credentials comes up) but these are pretty unhinged accusations with respect to Saladino.
I was one of the few who believed Dr Eric Berg at first that is till I found out he’s not even a certified MD but a chiropractor which got me suspiciousx
During their education, chiropractors have significantly more training in nutrition than M.D’s. To be a licensed chiropractor in California requires four years of education at Chiropractic College after graduating from a four year college or university with a bachelors degree. So, a total of 8 years college minimum, plus passing extensive exams, unless you become a specialist. That would mean more education in, say, neurology, for example.
@@suzanneemerson2625 Chiropractors are pseudoscientists.
@@suzanneemerson2625 So we can trust his advice?
I like your content in general..... But I'm not with you in this one. I complained to my doctor for 3 years about inflammation and other issues with no help. Couple months ago I decided to try Keto diet and suddenly my inflammation is gone, I sleep through the night (it didn't happen for 15y), even my gum disease is almost gone.
There is some truth in what they preach.
Well, presumably you eliminated a lot of things from your diet that you were eating before. It may have been just one or a few of those things that were causing your problem. You might try slowly adding other healthy foods to round out a more complete diet. You don't really know for sure that ketosis is what caused the affect you are seeing.
Data is not the plural of anecdote.
We already know the "kernel" of "truth" in their claims. They're not advocating eating cyanide, they're just using the basic misunderstandings and dangerous misrepresentations in the field to grift millions by telling them ehat they already want to hear, and fear mongering about things that don't warrant fear.
They're harming millions by mixing things that appear true with complete bs. That's always how grifting works. Out and out obvious bad actors don't make it as far as good liars do, and goos liars know how to mix the truth.
@@Groucho_Marxist_ASMR its the removal of refined carbs and processed food that reduces inflammation. Keto is essentially this with the addition of fattier foods like cheeses and fatty meat cuts. Ketones are also signaling molecules and studies are underway on their effect on the brain and certain illnesses such as Alzheimers, Parkinson's, etc.
Did you lose weight? Did you stop eating ultraprocessed foods? Maybe you were allergic or sensitive to one or two foods that you excluded? All these things could explain why you feel better. Keto is not proven to be conducive to longevity or long term health. Low carb is associated with higher mortality.
Keto isn't magic. I'm sorry. You removed a certain type of food(s) from your diet that keto happens to remove. Ketosis isn't some magical state that removes inflammation. I've tried ketosis multiple times and lost water weight but lost tons of energy. If it works for you, great! Please don't suggest it is some cure all. You would be literally proving the point of the video.
David, I appreciate you addressing this topic. Grifting is grifting whether it's in politics or medicine.
Medicine IS now politics. We in Europe let our governments get away with anything because they dangle the promise of free medicine - a.k.a. eternal life - before us... we can not loose that silly hope, until we do loose it, when we are too feeble for our protests to be heard. Human silliness goes even before any devious schemes.
Who needs to study fancy topics in med school when one can binge ridiculous videos on Tic Tok? Seriously, I know several people who trusted quackery and are dead as a result.
MDs don’t know how to stop American adults and kids from getting so fat but they sure know how to prescribe them meds 🤣
@@teeminator30 that's untrue. People just don't follow doctor's advice because it means I have to change their eating habits and they don't want to.
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Can you prove that? I think that’s just your opinion.
Which is just fine. The problem is there is actual evidence on both sides.
@@suzanneemerson2625 The old 'both sides controversy' trick. No my dear, there is no 'controversy' or evidence on both sides. One is long-established research-based information, the other is unproven quackery with no proven widespread efficacy. The medical understanding of obesity is completely sound.
@@suzanneemerson2625 Yes, we have doctors telling people to smoke more, eat plenty of sugar, and sit on your ass more so as not to deplete your vital humors. Seriously dude? Doctors all give the same advice. Eat more fresh fruits and vegetables, cut back on the refined sugar and fats, and exercise more.
05:21 That angry retired judge on The Dr’s sounds like she needs to see a metabolic psychiatrist.
Yes😂😂😂😂 !!
Lol yes. I have never seen that show. Who the hekk is she??!
Hmm, can’t help but think you wouldn’t say this if she were white. Or do all women of a certain age bother you? Do you have mommy issues?
She sounded like a psychopath!
Her delivery was awful but I agree with her message.
Isnt privatized medicine and medical insurance the biggest grift of all?
I had great results with the keto lifestyle. Lipid profile is now perfect, weight loss achieved, cravings gone and A1C below 5.
Thank you, David. Once again, people, use your head. Use your common sense. There is no magic "anything" in regard to instant wealth, instant weight loss, instant anything. All things will change if YOU WORK HARD! You're responsible. Don't be vulnerable.
The only magic that works is ozempic, yes? :D
@@novideostoday and statins. Nice comment.
Dr. Layne Norton and Nutrition Made Simple are good science-based channels to follow.
This reminds me of Republicans questioning the merits of vaccines during the COVID crisis. Those with no health care experience were casting doubt on the professionals who were certified medical professionals.
It was obvious that the vaccine technology using mrna was partially unknown territory, which is is. I am literally shocked that the discussion regarding a fundamentally different vaccine method compared to traditional vaccines has become liberal/concervative batleground. It rill take dæmany years before we fully understand and have scientific data to conclude.
With all do respect you are bashing a whole group many Republicans that I know did vaccinate and many did not and yet both groups are still alive and well.
I am a highly trained musician with a university degree yet I would never bash an untrained musician as they are able to do good music.
As a cultured person you understand that respecting others opinions is important and understanding that even the uneducated sometimes have better arguments and better understanding of life than we who go to college REMEMBER MEDICINE AND SCIENCE ARE A PRODUCT OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
so think critically how do native Americans in Mexico keep themselves alive with zero science and access to western medicine yet they are alive.
So you claim republicans don't follow science be careful what you say because you might have inconsistencies just like I do as well....
It's better to be humble. Because when doctor tells you you have less than 6 months to live science doesn't matter anymore so don't treated as a god
At the time, the hospitals were filled with the sick and dying. Hospital staff was over worked and burning out. We had to work with what little we knew at the time. At a time of crisis I will follow the advice of the trained professionals because doing nothing was not an option for me at least. It was a role of the dice where the odds were in your favor.
@@Bob-The-Guy that's were humbleness comes in you say "I trust professionals" well they will conflict at times and most of the time. It's like asking which is better Mac or windows or in religion Armenianism vs Calvinism in soccer playing defensive vs offensive in music, art, science any discipline you will always have two polarizing views in every area.
Remember any doctor that went against te main narrative was either fired or dumbed down as a conspiracy so you were manipulated to believe the way main streamline narrative was believed so there was never a true liberal doctor that could freely think. And yes many peopled healed from covid using plants, herbs, vitamins etc. And I saw that with my eyes so you cannot tell me otherwise
Questioning whether a vaccine with no long-term studies that in many cases is mandatory is harmful?! A vaccine, where if you refuse in some cases, you can lose your job, get kicked out of university, etc? The truth is, that if you're young and have no serious comorbidities, taking the COVID vaccine provides little value and those vaccine doses should have gone to poorer elderly people in other countries. I only got the first 2 doses of pfizer because I was LIED to and propagandized by the MSM that by taking it, the chances I would catch/spread the virus would be substantially lower than if I didn't. A total fabrication, and I eneded up getting COVID twice after my vax. So, in the even of a future pandemic, I will not follow any public health orders/recommendations and I will not take the vaccine.
The expert who says that seed oils are safe works for the food industry. Plus, these substances are for the most part banned in Europe. I side with the Europeans. Avoid seed oils.
Europe here, what are you talking about? You are eating the same European dishes we all do over here, where do you think you got all your recipes from? What a strange world view, how can you write that stuff when you know YT is full of Europeans?
Olive Oil much?
@@hubertusb.137dumb dumb... the EU literally has a list of food products that are banned but are allowed in the US
Historically, people become very obsessed with health after pandemics. Thats probably why we're seeing this surge
The real pandemic is the obesity pandemic.
The other one was a bullshit pandemic
You don’t think it’s about money and ego, too?
@@suzanneemerson2625 it definitely is for the grifters, but they're able to take advantage of intensified health fears because of pandemic conditions creating doubt in the ability and knowledge of the medical experts and increased worries about health. That's what opens up the space for grifters, and the dangerous part is that this kind of stuff is entry level on-ramps for the rightwing pipeline
I agree with a lot of what is in this post but I do suggest David that you stick to politics. Your nutritional/health knowledge is very grocery shelf which is not a good thing.
I would say that applies equally to politics
@@garnieross9958 David recently promoted a medical hack who gave the worst advice I have ever seen! And he didn’t question any of it. His medical, or health related knowledge is pretty bad
I agree. Berg- Scientologist or not- makes the valid point that highly processed food in the majority of the supermarkets is bad for us. Obesity epidemic anyone? Insulin resistance is a thing.
Having opened this can, David you will either have to take this down OR do a lot more research to identify what is correct vs. not. You decide, as the current presentation is as much of a disservice as those influencers as well. Simple relying on medical professionals is a huge cop out. It's the easy thing to say, but is it the right advice?
This, 100%
I have reversed T2D, congestive heart failure, NAFLD on a carnivore diet. Prior to changing my diet, I had 2 strokes and a heart attack in March, 2022. I could not speak, read or write and I was paralyzed on my right side. A very low carb ketogenic diet, then a carnivore diet helped recover so well that after 2 months I was able to go back to work as a database administor for Bank of America. I’ll never go back to eating the way I did before my strokes and heart attack. Ever!
Good for you. The misinformation about what we should eat is exhausting to combat.
Congratulations! You took control of your own health. That's amazing.
I'm a living testament! I keep a list of all my issues and check them off once it's reversed/asymptomatic. Within 2-4 weeks of going carnivore, I'm free of all this!!
Type ll diabetes
Decreasing menstrual cycles
PMS
Anxiety/panick disorder (no longer on zoloft)
Depression
Inattentive ADHD
Back/joint pain
Early osteoarthritis from hypermobility
Bloat/swelling
Acne
Rosacea
Seborrheic dermatitis
Eczema
Fatigue
Brain fog
Constant hunger
Itchy ears
Hives
Keratosis pilaris (almost gone)
I don't care what anyone says because I, MYSELF, know it works! Haven't felt this good. EVER!
GROSS 🤮
@@CavieBirdiePack You are a living testament! Emphasis on LIVING ! Living the life you were meant to live.
The problem with this show is, David seems to believe that "doctors", in general, by virtue of their medical degree, are well versed in nutritional science. Unfortunately, he would be sadly mistaken. Just like vaccines, physicians get maybe 30 hours worth in their education, that's it. So, unless you're seeking advice from a board certified nutritionist? Trusting your doctor? Could come back to haunt you. Remember, big pharma OWNS the medical system and they want long term customers, not good health. And just like vaccines? David here, is woefully, out of his league.
So Dr. David, how do you explain the many who've been on carnivore for years and doing quite well?
I don’t think anyone should be talking about these people or “evaluating” them as gurus. I mean to me everyone is on social media to make money. The doctors do the same thing. They don’t give you nutrition advice they prescribe medications a lot of the times with brands they have a relationship with or what’s the most expensive. You “recommend” different products on your channel that you may or may not even use. Does that give me license to evaluate you then? I think everyone should watch who they want and make their own decision if they want to use their products or not. IJS
Before the internet, there wasn't enough easily accessible and current information. Now there's a constant overwhelming and burgeoning deluge of information, most of it suspect, partly correct or incorrect, or patently false. We went from the Dark Ages to the Overlit Ages. The most important skill to learn today is to think critically and discriminate.
Indeed, but I wouldn't call lies and bs "information", I would call it misinformation.
The name "rapeseed" is derived from tue latin "rapum" meaning "turnip". Turnip, rutabaga, cabbage, brussels sprouts and mustard are all related to it. It has nothing to do with sexual assault.
I remember really being into "Dr." Berg a few years ago. I was taking ACV shots (horrible for your teeth & esophagus) + having multiple eggs per day. For the first time in my life, my bad cholesterol shot through the roof. Told my primary care Dr.what I was up to and his reaction was...."yeah, what did you expect with all of those eggs?" Preface.....eggs aren't bad, I get this. Once I eased up on the eggs, my cholesterol returned to normal levels. Thanks "Dr." Berg!
People get really weird about him though. Very defensive. This honestly kind of illustrates the work that actual doctors need to improve upon. Being more versed in holistic approaches rather being lobbied to death by greedy Pharma reps pushing
helpful, sure, but at times really shitty drugs. There's a legitimate distrust there and I get it.
😂😂😂. Your are the problem
You have to use your own good sense and have a working brain to make nutrition work for you! How many eggs did you consume? I remember one of his videos he said 4 to 6 eggs a day and someone said he stated "46" eggs a day which he did NOT!
OK to have an opinion, albeit from a position of little medical knowledge yourself. Just as long as your not advocating for the Standard American Diet!
Depends on the seed oils most people are not getting cold pressed organic canola oil they are getting oxidized seed oils in plastic bottles
Canola seeds don't contain any oil for this reason they have to be processed to transform carbohydrates into oil.
While they all have differences, the three I see in your RUclips still are proponents of high protein low sugar diets - which is an infinitely healthier diet than the usual cr@p we now eat in the western world. The real "grifters" are so called medical practitioners who get about two hours education over 7 years of medical school.
YOU'RE SO RIGHT!! Doctors and scientists didn't really know anything. They go to school for years and years and our taxes subsidize it! It's a GIANT SCAM!
If you have a medical plan, cancel it now. And never, ever, go to a doctor. For anything! They are just going to lie to you.
You can watch 2 hours of RUclips and you'll be good to go!
Low carb improved everything on my blood test
David, I usually like the content you produce, and I appreciate your attempt to address nutrition grifters... and maybe your critiques are correct, but do you have the credentials or documented experience to be a trusted messenger in this domain? If you do, refer to them at the outset and put them in the video description. If you don't, invite someone who does, and let them do the talking.
Exactly!
I suggest Dr. Ken Berry MD as a guest.
I noticed most of these guys say they are “doctors” when they are chiropractors . I had to go to a chiropractor for a test and she touched my thumb and said “ oh that’s a free adjustment”. Oh please!
You noticed it because he cherry picked his examples. Extremely dishonest.
There are many great doctors and medical researcher in the keto/carnivore world.
I wonder why people don’t realize that we are our ENTIRE bodies. And things are connected.
The question with the seed oils is how they are processed. I see nothing wrong with suggesting vitamin D3 or extra potassium supplements on occasion. I've researched some of Berg's advice and some of them have been backed up by legit studies. Away do your own research people
Brad Marshall makes the point that Seed oils are largely PUFA and that our bodies tend to store them resulting in our obesity crisis.
Cholesterol is very complicated.
One solution for that is to go plant based.
Not really. Our body makes cholesterol, so that means it is important for our health. Read up on cholesterol and you will see how important it is for our health - especially the brain and cell membranes.
@@thisorthat7626 Yes, I have done a ton of research on it and its importance to brain function explained a lot to me about use of statins (I had cognitive impairment from them when i listened to my Dr.). I was trying to allude to the channel owner that the claims that LDL is dangerous and problematic are off the mark, too simplistic.
@@thisorthat7626 our body makes relatively enough, so if you eat foods that excessively increase the amount in your body then you run into problems
The FDA no longer recommends restricting dietary intake of cholesterol. See PUBMED PMC6024687@@JohnJohnson-do3db
I had a chronic autoimmune issue in my early 20's, went to literally 10 specialists, had every test several times, and nobody could help me until I happened upon an elderly country doctor who cut my meds in half and put me on a very strict diet. That was when I finally got well. I am now almost 70 and take no prescription meds but am very careful what I eat. I get a lot of exercise, too. I listen to Dr. Berg knowing he's a Scientologist, which is disappointing, but his advice on diet and lifestyle make sense to me. I think he's right about medical doctors, whom I respect, but who get very little training in nutrition, are constricted by insurance companies, and often seem to treat symptoms of illnesses instead of causes. That makes zero sense to me. We in USA have a for-profit medical system which is simply immoral. I applaud doctors, but take as much personal responsibility for my health as I can.
Utter and complete nonsense. The difference between what was known about autoimmune diseases in the late 1970's and today is staggering. The idea that some old quack could help you by putting you on some "strict diet" is BS of the worst sort. You now claim to be taking no prescription drugs which says to me that you had no autoimmune disease at all as those do not just go away or be cured.
IOW you are more than likely a hypochondriac.
So physicians shld practice for fun? Goodwill? Good karma?
ALL OF THIS RIGHT HERE.
@@elizabethr4107 She didn't say anything even remotely like that, but good job on extracting something to argue with.
I was able to get off most of my meds when I started keto on Dr. Berg's advice, but my health really took off when I made the plunge into carnivore.
Why grifting health gurus are taking over tiktok and insta: People are dumb
As a clinical nutritionist, I'm constantly debunking the dangerous trends and false information promoted on the internet. I have at least 5 questions about some false claim or another purported by a "health expert" on the internet with my patients each week. Sigh!!
But do you research the science, and who pays for certain studies, as well? It’s not all black and white.
I say everyone needs to do their own research, and discover what their own body needs. Some people do great as vegans. Some don’t. Some do great as carnivores. Others not so much.
"Sigh"? "Sigh"? Nutritionists, especially those who have renderd hospital food ruinously unhealthy, are some of the worst-trained people coming out of universities, taught with textbooks that came out of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and the associated Loma Linda and Kellogs (selling breakfast cereal, right?) For diabetics, who can't handle carbs, they routinely prescribe stuff like cereal, toast, jelly, orange juice, custard. - SIGH.
Congratulations if you do personally advise people with T2D to go low carb or preferably zero carb. If you do not, like most of your species, shame on you. And see the story of the Tasmanian orthopedic surgeon Gary Fettke, hounded by ignorant nutitionists for telling patients to go low carb, eating lots of vegetables, pasture-fed meat and healthy fats (nuts, avocado, cheese, olive oil and fish). But he was "unqualified" and they were "qualified". They reported him to the medical board. He was in the end exonerated after it cost him a fortune in legal fees.
Why did he give that advice? HE got sick of abriding diabetic sores and chopping off the legs of carb-eating diabetics with "helpful nutritionists" telling them to eat CARBS and just increase their insulin. It is a disgraceful story repeated within several nutritionist associations.
So I would say - "as a nutritionist"? SIGH.
@T-aka-T your diatribe is unnecessary. There are many of us properly educated who do not promote the sick diet or fads.
@@Concernedcit1 That is great. But still, the diatribe is sorely needed, if not against you. Only because anyone who thinks low carb is a fad in the context of diabetes should be drummed out of your profession. They damage perople and cost lives and limbs. As Gary Fettke found.
Anecdotally, I've never felt better than I do when I eat high quality meat, fruits and honey. After exploring many ways of eating I really do have to say that many vegetables don't sit well with my stomach. Of course this is all a personal experience, but my doctor tells me to continue eating the way I'm eating because my Triglycerides and plaque build up are so low. Cholesterol is a very complicated subject that is still strongly debated in medical literature. Food is one of the most lobbied industries in the world, and there is a long history of hard evidence pointing to large corporations lobbying the American Heart Association and other public health entities for positive coverage for their products. While I believe there are many diet grifters, I don't know if we've really had enough conclusive unbiased evidence to point in the direction that a specific diet or lifestyle is THE optimal diet for humans. This is a much more complicated situation then you gave credit to here in my opinion. Love the show, thank you for tackling such important topics in such a reasonable manner.
Could not agree more! I don't have tiktok or instagram, so don't even know about many of whom he mentioned (tho I have heard of Saladino & Berg, from RUclips). I also believe people should do whatever works best for them & provides the healthiest outcome based on results, labwork, etc. That said, for ME.. all the way back to baby food, there are pics of me gagging, refusing when my parents tried to feed me vegetables (at the time, they thought it was cute/funny, yet odd) Growing up, I was that kid made to sit at the table "until".. refusing to eat any vegetable on my plate. Thing is, I couldn't even force myself, so there I sat until bedtime, every time until they gave up. I was taken to doctors who said I'd likely die young of malnutrition, scurvy, colon cancer, etc if I didn't eat a balanced diet. As a teen, I was the one ordering things PLAIN. If it had a speck of lettuce, mustard, tomato anything.. nope, wasn't eating it. Got made fun of a LOT, but.. it was if I couldn't help it. Sure, back then.. I also ate a carb heavy diet, processed everything too, lots of soda, etc. In my 20's, changed things when I got 'gestational diabetes' during pregnancy that never went away (prob had type2 for a bit prior, just didn't know it) Anyway.... haven't had pasta, rice, potato, bread in over 2 decades. The only fruit I've eaten ever.. is maybe a bite of some fruit type pie at a holiday gathering once per decade (just don't like fruit either, tho more tolerable than veggies.... which, I've NEVER EVER had in my entire life. Not a one) I eat (before it was a thing or even mentioned by anyone) mostly meats, seafood, bacon, eggs, butter, quality salt, water & 1c coffee per day. It's been like that for a looooong time now. Just turned 52 this year & oddly enough, out of everyone I know... I'm the only one on NO medications, without a single health issue & with the best bloodwork/cholesterol/A1C of anyone I know. No digestion issues, no mineral or vitamin deficiencies, nothing. I sleep through the night without issue, don't take any supplements & feel better than ever. So.... tho only one, there is something to it, i..m..h..o & it's worked for me! :) Be well.
Dr. Berg's health advice is fantastic! Over 1.6 years, I've lowered my BP by over 25 points and lowered weight by 40 lb. My Dr. Berg inspired Keto Diet has led to new hair growth and an increased in energy. I can make love twice a day. Some days I can't even get a reading over 120/70 when I take my BP. I love it. With the money I saved in doctors bills I could afford the new pants, underwear and shirts.
I had a skiing accident in March '23 and it took until September '23 to see a "well, established, doctor following well established medical guidelines" then to another over priced physical therapist. They recommended against practicing Tai Chi. The medical profession is a sack of shyt, meant to extract as much money as possible from its consumer.
Yeah, actually I think there is enough evidence. Go learn about the Blue Zones. Or read The China Diet. But people keep saying there isn't enough evidence so they can keep doing what they are doing.
Over the years I have found I react to a number of common plant foods. I think probably a fair number of people who have vague issues they attribute to growing older and take prescription drugs for the symptoms would benefit greatly from an elimination diet to be sure what they are eating isn't impacting their quality of life.
@@AdventureTrust Sure, buddy.
0:15 the man on the right wearing the blue shirt has a son who has spoken out against him, calling him a fraud.
That’s what happens to spoiled sons who are not getting enough free cash from their daddies
@@teeminator30 you shouldn’t criticize until you research him………🙄
@@teeminator30absolutely
His name is doctor erik berg. Unfortunately I fell for his trickery for a couple of years during the pandemic.
@@Tonimaroni2BeKindToAnimalshes a quack. Ive done my research
Sounds like pot calling kettle black. You are straying from your own 'specialty' into the realm of the health guru and actually cherry picking and quoting from your own research, and fear-mongering. Warning people against taking advice from 'qualified' medical professionals indeed!
This is an interesting topic for this channel…. The issue with this is not addressing the fact that the FDA, our whole healthcare system is a giant grift itself. I worked in healthcare finance and consulting until I got too ill. There’s context to everything.
I was chronically ill and in and out of the hospital from the age of 9 (my first hospitalization) until I was in my late thirties.
I followed all medical advice and took every drug given and got worse and worse, labeled a “frequent flier” and was consistently belittled and ignored by “experienced physicians”.
I have been following an animal based diet for over 5 years now, and made several other changes I was told for decades didn’t really matter, and have never been healthier. I was on prescriptions since age 9 and collected them until I was taking over 10 different medications a day, now I only take a few supplements. I have not been admitted or had any new symptoms issues or problems in the five years I STOPPED using our US healthcare system.
I’m not saying misinformation is not dangerous, but not everything that was discussed here is misinformation. I’ve learned so many things from people who aren’t licensed physicians that have literally saved my life. You didn’t mention the two carnivore (animal based) advocates with an online presence who are practicing physicians. The three people you picked aren’t representative of the entire concept of alternative medicine & health isn’t cookie cutter - highly individualized
Well said! Thanks for bringing intelligent balance to this discussion.
Yes, I have the same story! I had to become my own "doctor" after becoming very ill to the point of losing my job, my car, my horses and selling most of my possessions before losing my farm to foreclosure. Doctors only offered more pills as I increasingly became more disabled. I was able to heal and recover my health only after listening to online "health gurus" + reading hundreds of research papers on PubMed.gov to verify what they were teaching. Millions of people have left their conventional allopathic doctors because they never really get well with doctor-prescribed pharmaceuticals that just mask symptoms without healing anything.
@@JTS616 Nicely put! n=1 medicine FTW
Yes. I’m wondering who is sponsoring this video?
I agree with you. I drastically changed my diet to deal with issues related to peri menopause.
I don't think there's any argument that seed oils, which are almost always found in highly processed foods, are bad for you. They're at least right about this!
Stick with olive oil, avocado oil or unrefined coconut oil
Flax oil is great but not for cooking
Very little research to back that up.
@@TaijaSkyDragon Yes, 100% for flax oil. Also some of the nut oils are excellent, although not practical for cooking - and usually expensive!
@@kelliott7864 why take the chance? Olive oil is crushed olives... you can't crush corn and get oil... it's a chemical process.
The problem here is, this guy clearly told his researchers to do a bit of Googling and is reading back their results without the first clue what he's talking about. Whilst he's broadly correct about the grift, and the significant danger posed by people such as O'Neill, he simply doesn't understand anything about nutrition, or indeed basic statistics. The fact is, following the diets proposed by the likes of Berg, the Keto proponents and even the carnivores will make for far better health than following the traditional Western diet. Indeed, Berg's diet advice couldn't be better. As for mocking these people for not being doctors - please. Doctors have zero training in nutrition. Unless they specialise in it, they know precisely nothing about the topic. Spend two hours on the internet reading the basics and guaranteed you'll know more than your doctor.
Yeah, this was a bit of a stretch from David... I switched to an animal-based diet and haven't felt this good in years. In fact, I even got off from all my psychiatric medications for depression and anxiety. And, there are actual doctors and researchers looking into this. Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr. Nick Norwitz, Dr. Jason Fung... I agree there are definitely grifters out there, but also, there is real research showing the benefits of these diets in metabolic health, which seems to be the basis for pretty much all disease.
This is a poor argument youve put forth, no one recommends the standard american diet, the fda puts forth a much more balanced recommendation. Restrictive diets like keto and carnivore are extremely untested, difficult for most to stick to, and mainly given creedence by anecdotes, aka the antithesis of science. These same people also shill overpriced supplements that are borderline useless. Berg is a chiropractor🙄 Listen to your dr or find a NUTRITIONIST on youtube.
Amen!
There is nothing healthy about keto or carnivore diets.
" The fact is, following the diets proposed by the likes of Berg, the Keto proponents and even the carnivores will make for far better health than following the traditional Western diet." Claim with zero evidence to back it.
There is a reason these influencers are so popular and that is because traditional medical advice has been failing spectacularly. People are following their doctor's advice which largely involves taking drugs rather than getting holistic advice on nutrition, lifestyle, etc. These drugs generally carry a whole host of side effects. Also doctors are notoriously ignorant in matters of nutrition.
While I agree that we need to proceed with caution before listening to unqualified influencers, "qualified" medical doctors are leaving more and more to be desired these days. After experimenting with personal health issues, I have found that a lot of official medical advice has had a negative effect, whereas home rememdies have shown an improvement.
And don't even get me started on the FDA...
Medical doctors typically only have about 4 hours of nutritional training. They always point to the Framingham study, which was cherry picked to prove cholesterol bad. Many of the participants survived into old age with high cholesterol. Statins have side effects that in many cases outweigh the benefits. Duane Graveline was an aspiring astronaut on his way to the moon but was grounded by the statins he was prescribed. LDL can be both bad and good depending on the physical size, and the only way to know that, is if you have your blood tested for particle size. 18:31
I believe you are absolutely right. I call refined sugar PAIN AND DEATH. But our typical American diet is fraught with way too much sugar and unhealthy foods. I also agree doctors don't seem aware of negative side effects of pills. Why not eat a truly healthy diet? I eat a keto diet and besides the fact that I am almost 70 and feel pretty darn good, I am never hungry like on a low-calorie diet. I follow Dr. Berg so I don't end up with an overnight case full of pills that will most likely shorten my life while they rob me of a quality life. Oh yeah...They are expensive, too. Besides not curing any health problems. They just treat symptoms. I would rather be healthy, so I listen to Dr. Berg and never put poisonous refined sugar in my body.
@@chrisross140 agreed. Cholesterol has been demonized. Near as I can tell, the message of less is better also isn’t helpful. There does appear to be a healthy limit and 20% of the population is prone to natural higher levels of both cholesterol and ldl. Similar to blood pressure. Some people are salt sensitive and should reduce it but the other 80%, naturally self regulate.
"..Saladino is an MD in psychiatry...." Last I heard people with the title MD are doctors, and before specializing (psychiatry), they must have studied medicine and had been exposed to some degree of nutrition education. Think it through. Paradoxically David is doing exactly what he is criticizing others of, he is telling us what is what in the world of nutrition and I suspect his credentials in this arena are thin if not nonexistent.
Medical doctors get a negligible amount of education on nutrition.
@permculture data based on sound scientific data are key to understanding any scientific endeavor. None of those grifters provide any scientific studies and rely on anecdotes and cherry picked portions of often questionable studies. David merely is pointing this out and is not claiming any special nutritional knowledge. You’re not listening.
LOL. On that basis, then an MD should be able to do heart surgery, transplant a kidney, reattach a leg, all without breaking a sweat. Because, after all, they were exposed to hearts, kidneys, and limbs in med school. 🤣
Given the amount of medical information that is generated every day, at times it would be very difficult to determine and verify said information, which may or may not be disproven in the future. Medical doctors in training, get rudimentary courses in nutrition, and depending on their chosen specialty that they eventually end up in, much of that basic nutritional education may end up proven to be wrong, or applied in an incorrect way. If you want nutritional guidance, consult a known practicing nutritionist. But remember, based on your socioeconomic/income level as well as the complications and restrictions of your present critical thinking and life in general, good nutritional advice may not be translated into functional advice available to you due to your individual situation. Survival significantly reduces good advice that cannot be followed. When a normal sized apple costs $1.29 each here in Southern California vs a single cappuccino which may cost up to $5.00 or more, many people will choose the cappuccino over eating several apples over the next few days. To each his one. This will not change much going forward.
What an ignorant comment
It is mind blowing that chiropractors cosplay as actual medical doctors on RUclips and no one bats an eye
Berg has given me more helpful advice than my PCP. I believe there are benefits to both types of doctors.
@@alisonf6478 if he’s helped you that’s great but he should not be masquerading as a doctor. It’s misleading.
@@LazarusLifts_his site clearly states he is a chiropractor.
I comment that on many of Berg's videos...I say "he's a chrio and knows nothing of the subject he is speaking on"
No, everyone knows he's a chiropractor. He's never hidden that.
I have an idea David….you are a non biased reporter…Invite Dr Ken Berry or Dr Anthony Chaffee on your show, then you can question their credentials and their knowledge. Also interview Dr Elizabeth Bright MD about seed oils? Maybe interview Dr. Bikman a BYU Biologist who talks how the body works and how food affects the body. Please at least cover all sides
Hmmm..this one is interesting. The only one I know is Berg. I must say, I personally have found that seed oils are bad, just via process of elimination and reintroduction.
There are times my body works great with reduced carbs and other times I have to load up on carbs. But generally I have found that keeping ultra-proceased foods to an unavoidable minimum, not using seed / vegetable oils etc and sticking to nature's carbs have not only felt healing to my body, my health is feeling optimised, and my blood work is testament to that.
Not eating junk food is good for anybody. Italians eat huge amounts of carbs, so do the Chinese with rice plus various seed oils, but don't have half the problems of the western or American diet. Ex gymnastics champion Andreas Wecker claims seed oils cured him. Who is right?
@@baronmedusewell we aren’t all the same, are we? Asian people don’t do well with dairy.
@@alisonf6478 However as you indicate we find similarities in certain groups, such as Africans with elevated cases of sickie cell. For a remedy to be considered efficacious we'd need to see MOST to ALL cases of sickle cell in that group seeing improvement. Not just one or two anecdotal reports.
@@baronmedusewhy not just try it and see what works best? Who gives a crap about what other people say?
China have the most cases of diabetes in the world per capita. Italians love their olive oil. I am happy that Andreas feel better.
DP isn't capable of offering the nuance necessary for this conversation on his channel
Berg is also a member of the church of scientology
A few things to look at before you trust someone online
1. Are they sponsored by someone that the stance they are taking benefits?
2. Are they pushing a product or service of their own?
3. Is their claim fantastical
If any of these are yes then you should question it, and find other sources to verify what they are saying is true
I am suddenly allergic to sunflower oil, and it has suddenly crept into almost all processed foods and restaurants. I am left with not much more to eat except fruits and veggies, meat (even bread has sunflower oil). David, please be careful about the messaging you are sending to followers without your own knowledge.
That's ridiculous. Learn how to cook, get a breadmaker. Grow up.
I’m sorry. Having that allergy must suck, but what is David Pakman saying that he should be more careful about?
don't eat process food, cook yourself so you know the ingredients that go into what you eat. Make your own bread or get a bread maker. I'm sorry about your allergy.
@@rosalindtan6968 all things I do…but sometimes this isn’t always possible travelling, etc).
It may be the chemicals used to extract the oil and the added preservative that is the problem, or part of the problem. Although it is the case that some people are allergic to soy products for example, so they should avoid soybean oil. I recommend you switch to pressed oils eg olive oil or coconut oil.
There's a lot of grey areas with Dr Berg's advice, always fact check things you are unsure about from such "experts". But the advice on apple cider vinegar absolutely cured my indigestion I had for a long time. ACV can do wonders.
AVC and Dr. Berg inspired Keto diet lowered my blood pressure significantly and led to a drop in 40 lbs.
@@AdventureTrust Obviously if you lower your calorie intake. As you have to do with a Keto diet because you get fat satiety long before you take in excess calories. But the lack of other nutrients will catch up with you.
Dr Berg’s insulin resistance videos has helped me to keep my blood sugar lvls below 100 since 2018, back when I was diagnosed as pre-diabetic, I don’t take nor buy anything from his list of products but I’ve researched and read about keeping you glucose level on check without conventional medicine, proven for decades by the experts, like David P says. I appreciate what he is doing (DP) tho. P.s.: I don’t follow Dr Berg’s cholesterol videos but I don’t have an issue with cholesterol.
@@richpickings2845 look up his son and realize he’s Scientology nut! Don’t be sucked in. Do your due diligence and research on reputable sites.
There are no grey areas. Medical science already knows about ACV for many things. But there is no conclusive evidence that it 'cures' acid reflux. Since other people who have taken it have made the reflux worse. It is after all a weak acid! 'Cure' is when it works in a majority of cases. This isn't so.
Are you a doctor .. or just a youtuber ??
He himself is a social media influencer 🤣😂
@@daliciouslyAND as such, cherry picks the keto influencers to prove HIS woke point.
Forgetting in the proces all the many VERY high rank doctors/researchers from Harvard and many other world famous universeties/hospitals who promote keto, say that cholesterol is not a bad thing and that seed oils are ultra procesed and very inflamatory .
Excuse my spelling I’m french 😊
@@Joliefleur252I agree with you save the “woke” BS 😂
@@Joliefleur252 I love how your outrage has just fried your circuits. It's not enough that Pakman says your gurus are grifters, he's being WOKE, too! OMG! And it's funny how you claim the keto diet is promoted by Harvard, when their own website says: " Should you try the keto diet?
It's advertised as a weight-loss wonder, but this eating plan is actually a medical diet that comes with serious risks. "
Whoopsie!
@@demophys4883 harvard trained you dumb ass. Does not mean they stayed to work there.
Always love your show. But I disagree with you on Dr. Berg. (I don’t know the others)
The study you quoted was from 2013…. Get something w/in the last 5 years and I’ll read it. My wife and I have followed Dr. Berg’s diet for 3 years, we both lost weight (me~15lb and her ~7lbs) and are now at a healthy weight. We feel better and have more energy. My cholesterol went way down as did my blood pressure. I was on the cups of needing medication for both, now I’m in the green again.
Dr. Berg knows where it’s at! I’m not saying he doesn’t go a bit too far at times, (e.g. selling some of those supplements - though my wife swears by his magnesium ) but insulin resistance in America, which is his main thing, is real. He also ALWAYS quotes reputable, published (recent) research (with links) and papers from journals. I get he’s a chiropractor, but his advice has changed our lives for the better and I recommend him.
Well said! So what’s the difference between a doctor of chiropractic and medical doctor? We will call one a doctor and another just a chiropractor?
Should've added V Shred in here 😆 🤣
I’m 100% for exposing charlatans, but while some prominent influencers are classic grifters (hello Dr. Berg), that doesn’t negate all the information they use in their grift. For example, I follow a primarily ketogenic diet, and have had significant positive results, including weight loss, eczema gone, sleep issues gone, increased energy, and an overall increase in wellbeing in the last three years.
It’s not a fairytale, I’ve gone up and down with it, but it’s been life changing to my quality of life.
Additionally, my family physician encourages this, at least for the time being, because she sees the overwhelmingly positive effects.
There are credible peer reviewed studies acknowledging the benefits of a keto diet.
It’s not for everyone, and grifters will oversell potential benefits while minimizing harms (an unfortunate trickiness used since we began exchanging goods), but not deserving of the quackery label David is applying here.
I agree and I don’t. I think doctors are not about prevention….and there is some link between big pharma and medical centres…
Interesting video, David. A much needed break from your other content. Thank you!
If someone wants a more deep dive on seed oils, Dr Gil Carvalho (Nutrition Made Simple) does a really great job going over all of the actual science. His channel is really good. He does a debunk of one of Berg's videos that's very good, and I think he has a debunk of Mercola and some of these others, as well. He's a reliable, scientific source, with no skin in the game. He doesn't sell anything.
My method of proving or debunking is actually my own body and how I feel. I feel 1000 times better eating mostly veggies and protein. (A la Berg’s healthy keto)
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I run lots of internet medical advice by Dr. Carvalho’s information on the topic. His analyses are superb, in my opinion.
@@alisonf6478same here
I like Dr Berg and share many of his views. He offers advice only and stresses checking with your personal doctor. Btw I consume Olive, Coconut, & Avocado Oils only. Frickin’ Canola oil is the worst! And…anyone wanting to lose weight should count carbs. I trust Berg on nutrition, you-I trust with political opinions.
Right. I dont like him being in this video. This guy is not even an expert himself 🤔
I actually just lost my trust in his polical opinions because I realise at what point he cherry picks his examples.
No more trust in him left.
@@Joliefleur252 yes, this doesn’t sit well with me either. I may unfollow.
Cold pressed canola oil is healthy and not very expensive, regardless of what your chiropractor says.
Why would you trust Berg on nutrition? He is wrong.
Charismatic and Barbara O'Neil are not words I would put together.
My PCP put me on a ketogenic diet to control diabetes. It works. I follow Eric Berg because his advice makes sense and aligns with my PCP. I have not seen where he pushes his products even though he has his own line.
I felt sorry for Saladino..that clip, that woman screeching at him, she's dreadful! I'd almost be on his side, if I wasn't a vegetarian.
He’s a grifter and she’s calling him out. He deserves it.
gross misogynistic comment. she’s calling him out on his BS
@@coolchameleon21 Not a misogynist at all (I'm an old woman!) but I do not like seeing anyone speak to another person the way this woman was. I fully understand it was a tv show and she had a job to do and maybe her personality is nothing like the person she portrayed in this clip. Ever wonder why life is not as pleasant and congenial as it once was? This is why - people feel far too entitled to be nasty. She would have got much further with him and the audience had she used some manners. You can call someone out without being a b&^*h. I was in education for years with the lovely age group of 12 - 16 yr olds. Is bullying behaviour acceptable now?