When Bounce stopped Bouncing at Oakwood amusement Park
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This is a quick recap from the Oakwood (Wales,) estop of Bounce. A viewer asked me my thoughts on the subject so I made this video. The ride behaved the way it should under fault conditions on 10/07/2024 10JUL24
12/07/2024. - 12JUL24
Huss Shot N Drop
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Too bad there is no audio so there can be some definite answers. Glad oak wood chose to show the video. They definitely were proactive. The ride did what it was supposed to do. Glad everyone was safe and not injured.
@@christiwright3604 yep. It was a great response by the park!
Proper use of an E-stop and a computer and ride did it's job. Enjoyed the analysis and helping us learn more. Speculation can be fun.
I rode Bounce last year and was a bit offput by the ride experience. There was an abrupt stop at the very top that felt as if the gondola had risen too high and hit some sort of stop at the end of its travel. It didn't hurt but it wasn't pleasant. The air release is incredibly loud and more notably, discharges nearby at ground level such that leaves and debris in the queue line get blown around at your feet during the ride operation. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions about safety but this ride definitely doesn't seem as well-engineered or as refined as the S&S examples. The full cycle (shot then drop) also requires you to wait for over 2 minutes mid-cycle at the base of the tower 'waiting for air pressure to build' which the ride ops inform the guests to explain the long wait. I feel like there must be better ways of doing this!
@@sammorris6104 2minutes! That’s a joke! Needs a bigger air compressor.
The abrupt stop at the top is when the gondala hit the magnetic brake fins. They haven't always been there, the ride was retrofitted with a new control system a couple of years ago which included the addition of magnetic brake fins at the top (maybe to stop it flying too far up during a 'shot' sequence?). When you watch the video of the drop sequence, the new magnetic fins are the reason why it takes several seconds for the gondala to start properly falling back down the tower as it needs to clear those brakes before picking up speed.
Thanks for this Ryan.
I went to Oakwood a few times back in the mid 2000's and always enjoyed riding Bounce.
It was noisy even back then and I encountered a "Hard" E-Stop once that looked as sudden as that video-I can't remember it hitting the shock absorbers though.
The Gondola eventually returned to the loading height and we were offered another ride straight away.
@@TomRaymondNuttall the brakes on that, they look like long linear pinch brakes. Skies on the structure. Can’t see how that would activate. Any ideas?
And there were no dots to be had...lol
"Max heighth", you get me every time with that word you created.Still love every video and recommend you to engineer buddies
@@sumguy8 making up words is what I’m
no-wn for haha!
they need to check over their rides more, or it's gonna start getting the tag 'the UK's Action Park'
for me the park went downhill when they took Nutty Jakes Train ride away
but I still got a love for the park and want it to get better. It's home of 2 legendary rides, Megafobia and the Waterfalls.
Nice video, was nice hearing about it from an engineer's perspective.
Hope all the riders of the accident recover, I imagine it was pretty horrific.
@@xsm5525 honestly they what they looked I don’t think they knew there was a problem. To them it looks like it just suddenly stopped.
I've been on Bounce years ago before the ride closed for years and it was a good bounce tower, they then closed it to refurb it for years and it's now a terrible forceless ride.
I can also confirm it is a maintenance nightmare from what I have been told by people who are close to the park
worth noting Oakwood broke their relationship with HUSS years ago due to neglect of the ride. They then brang in Attraction Technical to re-instate the ride after years of being closed.
@@jaystocky hmmm
@@ryantheridemechanic Amusement Technical* - the ride also experienced a similar incident a week or so prior where it overshot the top of the tower and hit the top. Made an incredibly loud clang and I'm sure peoples ears are still ringing from it
@@jaystocky not good at all
@@ryantheridemechanicevery ride I've ever seen amusement technical touch is broken and doesn't work properly
@@chfilms1 yikes.
In QuickTime you can advance and reverse frame by frame with the left and right arrows.
The ride doesn’t operate like it used to it now as magnetic breaks at the top of the tower and that’s why it comes off them really slow but it do have pinch brakes at the bottom
I was at Oakwood in 2022 and got a good grasp on the brakes. They are just very wide caliper style like B&M but they run in a long chain rather than individual units. There is a large block on the back of the gondola that travels between the brakes and you can see the cylinders on the sides that press them together. I can share photos and video in your email
@@Porcf81 cool. Must be some small spring loaded cylinders like a lot of brakes are.
I think the Zamperla/Soriani Z-Drop uses proximity sensors IIRC and is the same ride type of the Shot-N-Drop
Hey Ryan
Your video is an excellent explanation of a Huss Shot & Drop. Notably Bounce as I’m from wales.
Ever since it’s opening in the late 90s, Bounce has always been a very noisy ride because of its air pressure. Audible all around the park! Easily the noisiest attraction alongside megafobia, the park’s woodie.
Are you saying in the video this isn’t normal for shot n drops? All I’ve known is for it to make those exact sounds
Thanks Ryan I love your videos. You cover even Wales lol. Such an amazing industry-wide insight 😎
Great video but the real question - did the park give any of the people who were evacuated from the ride Dippin' Dots?
@@lornetyndale7974 no. The rest of the world won’t allow its people to ingest American food.
The ride was rebuilt two years ago by someone else not Huss
Would have been a lot better if you’d included the video for us to see of the normal operation.
Sounded great though :p
That slow pre drop from the top makes me think a valve didn’t close or there was not enough air pressure to support the weight of the vehicle once it stopped the lift cycle. Every time I see one of those smaller UK parks on YT, I keep thinking they are kind of sketchy.
The ride was retrofitted with a new control system a couple of years ago which included the addition of magnetic brake fins at the top (maybe to stop it flying too far up during a 'shot' sequence if something went wrong?). When you watch the video of the drop sequence, the new magnetic fins are the reason why it takes several seconds for the gondala to start properly falling back down the tower as it needs to clear those brakes before picking up speed.
I can't remember the type of brakes it has...
But will say it's so tame the chances of genuine injury are remote..
Has has been said it seems to have worked (stopped) as ment, too.
I’ve been on the ride many times. I always assumed bounce always used air as it’s brakes and the shock absorbers as backup. Never noticed magnets. Maybe there’s trim brakes like we see on coasters?
@@jamesgriffiths3031 they look like linear pinch brakes on at least one side. Maybe two. Can’t see how they activate. I’d imagine there’s spring cylinders holding them open.
I went on it 6 days before this happend with my friends and teacher (I was on a school trip) me and my friends were lucky! I'm happy everyone one is safe
The HUSS drop towers are a little more comfortable then the S-S towers, but they were designed as traveling rides keep that in mind. Then again, normally there isn't so much leak in air on other HUSS towers like that. Every HUSS tower is perfectly safe, unless you as a park, did not take good care of it. HUSS is on site to investigate and also to see if their other droptowers need to be inspected as well. (The one in Bellewaerde, the one on the French fairs and a bunch of others). Also, normally on HUSS droptowers, the car just shots directly to the ground. In this video, you see a clear delay before it shots back down. That is where my confusion is.
@@JamesPhil12345 Ok. I never seen HUSS towers do this honestly.
@@JamesPhil12345 HUSS is now reviewing the rides safety. So we might have to wait wat HUSS says. But other HUSS towers are shut down the same as this one when the auto e-stop is activated.
1) kudos to the ride operator who reacted to "this is NOT right" and stopped the ride
1a) man, that thing stopped. FAST.
2) have to wonder if it was overweight ......
Dippin’ Dots for all?
@@MrMakoFL no, stop it! Haha!
@@ryantheridemechanic Good news, Dippin' Dots haven't made it to the UK. I'm betting some of the colourants don't meet EU and therefore also UK food standards.
@@EwanMarshall not surprising. We have low standards for what we eat here in the US
@@ryantheridemechanic There are standards here? There's about 48 million cases of food poisoning in the USA every year, ~128,000 hospitalized, ~3,000 killed by it each year.
That doesn't even include the stuff which is slowly killing us, like additives, seed oils, etc.
@@grayrabbit2211 it’s not good. All you have to do is talk about US food in other countries and find out quick that most of the other countries banned the normal food served in the US because other countries “don’t know what that is but it’s not food”. That should say something. I don’t really know how to avoid something we are up to our eyes in every day. Go to the store and look around. Just sugar and processed carbohydrates.
Is HUSS still servicing these rides? I thought HUSS Park Attractions stopped supporting many of the older HUSS rides.
@@MrMakoFL not sure. In the US we always used a 3rd party working with / authorized by Huss.
@@ryantheridemechanic Technically the current Huss is a different company now anyway to the one that built alot of their older rides, so to me the current Huss shouldn't be still treated as the manufacturer with respect to any mods. IIRC they tried to say they were the only people that could do a certain inspection on a ride at a park i used to work at and after quoting a crazy amount for this were politely told to go away because they weren't the company the legal entity that manufactured the ride.
@@terrysansom3862 makes sense. We tried to get the local inspector out for restraints. He couldn’t make it. We asked how else to do it, he said the restraints could be shipped back to Germany for inspection but almost guaranteed every one would fail soon as they opened the box. (More parts to sell I guess.)
I hope you say Gone Dola.
@@modgetall it’s what I do. When the topspin video comes out. Gondola for hours.
@@ryantheridemechanic it's why I'm here. Well that and the insanely good inside knowledge. Knowledge and Gone Dola, and the ever improving editing, oh and also the jokes. Basically, I'm not Gone Dolaing anywhere else!
I wasn't ready for hoose.
@@modgetall that’s how I heard it’s supposed to be said. I always say Huss like corn husk. But I’ve heard it’s hoose. No real knowledge on it other than other reports
Ryan, The ride did what it supposed to do, but people were injured and taken to the hospital. That is where all the fuss is about. People got backpain due to the hard e-stop.
The link to the information he was given by a viewer did not include the back pain reports. He would absolutely have mentioned it if he had the info. The main thing here is confirmation that the ride did what it was supposed to do.
Obviously a very uncomfortable hard stop that caused some pain, but much better than just smashing directly into the ground. 🍻
@@Riddict I agree. But that is not why this story has blown up. So yeah, the one who send the mail left out some critical information.
I don't think they would have been solely injured by the e-stop, looks like a hard bounce at the bottom, possibly off the bottom stops immediately followed by the estop. It's two very sudden and opposite accelerations.
@@danielvanced5526 The park stated the injuries were caused by the sudden E-stop. That is the sole information I have.
To be fair, the park released an update with information before this initial post. So, the sender and/or Ryan may not have seen where it mentioned people with back pain etc.
I think s&s model is much safer and much better than the huss model.
Which is why the S&S model has no approval to operate in Germany, while the Huss model does?
I am not saying that the S&S towers are unsafe - I like them, But there must be one thing missing from them in order to get approval here. I don't know what it is.
@@Colaholiker The ride experience on huss suck like crap.
@@4everpee it totally depends. When we still had one at the fair, it depended on who operated it. Now it sits at a park, and the ride cycle sucks.
A lot of Huss rides are a lot better when you have a skilled operator at the controls, and this is no exception.
@@Colaholiker If the S&S tower isn't approved in Germany could it be as simple as trade protectionism?
@@eDoc2020 I am not in a position to rule that out. However, I doubt it as the TÜV does not care for such things and I am not aware of them ever dabbling in this kind of politics.
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