Daft Punk Synth Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- This week I thought I'd demo three Daft Punk synth sounds / samples on original hardware.
As these are all VCO-based analogue synths that are the best part of 40 years old, you'll probably find that settings vary slightly from one unit to the next. In fact, the settings vary on a daily basis on my own synths, depending upon temperature or how long they've been switched on etc.
Here's the settings.
Korg MS-20 (Mark I):
KYBD CV OUT patched into VOLTAGE CONTROLLED HP FILTER CUTOFF FREQ
SIGNAL OUT patched into EXTERNAL SIGNAL PROCESSOR SIGNAL IN. Output from AMP OUT.
Signal level 8.8
OSC 1: Sawtooth at 8'
OSC 2: Sawtooth at 16' tuned up a 5th
HP filter: Cutoff 3, Peak 0, MG 0, EXT 10
LP filter: Cutoff 3.1, Peak 7.8, MG 0, EG2 7.8
EG2:
Hold 0
Attack 1
Decay 5.2
Sustain 0.2
Release 4
Roland TB-303:
G down
A# up
G slide
F up
D# accent + slide
C# down + accent
C# down + accent + slide
C# accent
D# up + slide
D# down
F up + slide
G up + accent + slide
G# down
G down + slide
C down + slide
G slide
Distort with a stomp box or unit of your choice and dial in the cutoff and envelope with resonance all the way up. Tweak decay and accent. I was using the square wave setting.
Sequential Circuits Pro~One:
This is matching the quite tame sync preset from the Prophet 5, you can get lots of variations of the sync sound, including more aggressive versions.
Oscillator A: Octave 1, square, 50% PW, Sync On.
Oscillator B: Octave 1, no waves, Normal, KYBD
Oscillator A level: 10
Oscillator B level: n/a as we've no waves
Noise: 0
Filter:
Cutoff 2
Resonance 0
Envelope amount 6
Keyboard Amount 4
Attack 4
Decay 7
Sustain 3
Release 3
Amp:
Attack 2
Decay 5
Sustain 10
Release 0
Mod matrix:
Filter envelope direct to Oscillator A freq. Amount 10.
LFO frequency 6.5, shape triangle
LFO wheel to Oscillator B freq. Amount 1.5. Dial up mod wheel.
Alternatives to these synths:
Korg MS-20:
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TB-303:
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Pro~One:
There's a Behringer clone coming, but in the meantime there's these emulations. I have Repro-5 / Repro-1 and it's remarkably similar to the real thing.
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An addendum.
The only gear list that has come from Daft Punk themselves is found at the bottom of this comment.
You'll note the there is no mention of a Korg MS-20 anywhere and so the combination required from that list would be a Juno-106 or MKS-80 or Prophet VS, the Waldorf Miniworks 4-Pole (the necessary VCBPF) and a distortion pedal (not listed).
However, others have pointed out this gear list is incomplete and doesn't list gear they've been photographed using at the time.
Plus, factor in that they may not have wanted to reveal all their secrets or that they could easily have borrowed gear and it still remains possible it's an MS-20 or Yamaha CS-30.
So the plot thickens and it could be a combination of the gear from that list, but nobody actually knows for sure as they've never confirmed specifically.
happymag.tv/daft-punk-homework/
If it's not a ms-20 I'll cut off my hands, it's sooooooooo the sound of it
Hey :)
I´m trying to recreate that Daft Punk sound on the ms-20 vst, but can´t get it right, do you have some suggestions? :)
Thanks man. I am hoping to recreate these effects using my Korg SQ-1 step sequencer and Behringer TD-3 synthesizer. I can use the cv a and b in/out ports with the other device's ports... Gate and filter in... Right?
I think it could also be an ARP Odyssey
Bastards hid the talkboxes
The MS-20 and TB-303 recreations were amazingly accurate! Your figuring out where the accents were supposed to go on the 303 line is indistinguishable from magic. 😁
Yep, he nailed both! I followed along with my MS-20 Mini and TB-03 and it sounds perfect.
Did he figure it out or did he grab it from the internet? Whoever figured it out is some kind of magician. Holy shite.
Other musicians: pre-sets are weak! Make your own sounds!
Daft Punk: synth go brrrrrrrrr
Honestly you don't deserve to be called a musician if you think like that
Bruh ur like my favorite RUclips my guy
Picasso was also a big thief; he stole everything he found, thats necessary
Not gonna lie, dude, this comment and my subsequent dive into Daft Punk (I grew up as a rock guitar guy) was what got me comfortable using presets.
Can't imagine how much time Daft Punk spent with these machines to pull such great things from them!
Some of them are known tricks with the particular machines in other genres.
And other's are just samples
That’s why Chris is here
Honestly if you heard some of the songs that Daft Punk sampled/blatantly ripped off you'd be saying "can't imagine how little time they actually spent making these songs"
I’m pretty sure Daft Punks workflow is like 90% sample based.
I mean their last album was literally written by like 20 of the worlds best musicians and they just took the samples they recorded across the world and made a whole album with it. Same as they’ve always done. Still amazing producers and tastemakers no doubt though
I have no idea what he's talking about, but this is pretty cool.
Quak the Mandalorian it helps being a machine themselves I gusss
That's synthesizers.
Basically a filter “cuts off” the sound waves, creating…cutoff. A low pass filter cuts off high frequencies. A high pass filter cuts off low frequencies. That’s the best I can explain the complex bits
I always surprises me how intuitive and straight forward the 303 is.
*Sarcasm detector breaks*
😂😂😂
Have you used one though?
@@TransistorBased oh yeah, still recovering from the ordeal..
@@TransistorBased If I'm not mistaken the RE-303 replica is just as complicated (Maybe the Behringer and Roland mini thingy), unlike other clones which are much easier to use (I´ve used the TT-303, Acid Labs Bass line they are so straight forward.. haven't finished my x0xb0x yet though...)
man i just tapped this sequence in my TD-3! it sounds EXACTLY like the original 303 sequence! this is so amazing
Show some sounds form Justice's first album, you'd be a legend for doing that!
Oh yes, that would be ace. Would take a bit more working out, but a "Genesis" breakdown would be a good one.
@@AlexBallMusic This video is a blast, and a huge thanks for this one. But yeah, Genesis, as well as Let There Be Light would be unbelievably interesting.
Genesis breakdown please!
@@AlexBallMusic I was going to say this was the best video i've found on youtube so far, ever, but hit me with that Genesis breakdown and i'm sure i'll change my mind!
justice - 1st album is micro-sampled, not synthesized (may be just few sounds)... and there were some videos on youtube about this.
best daft punk tutorial ever !!!
Cheers. 😀
The first that i am watching, and ... i believe you! I am working actually on shooting a funny "Daft Punk fake tutorial"... just for fun. I am french so it will be more a "cook and drink wine" tutorial, lol)
@@herontotem1065 je suis chaud de voir ta parodie je m'abonne :p les autres tutos sont moins bien renseigné et se contente juste de mettre de la distortion partout en jouant une pattern approximative
@@LouisSerieusement Looool eh merde encore un français hahaha...
Bravo! Tu es mon tout premier abonné!!! (bruit de foule qui acclame la star, lancer de culottes, tout ça...)
Pour la peine tu as gagné... euuuh je sais pas quoi encore mais je vais y réfléchir!
Je te préviens ça sera cheap, débile, nul, sale... Bref dans le même esprit que mes futures vidéos! :p
That peak resonance knob-tweak is also what they did on Aerodynamite to create instant rising tension and buildup.
Nice. The MS20 is certainly the king of rising tension!
Hate to be that guy, but they actually used a Roland Juno 106 with a Boss distortion pedal
I've heard others say it was a Juno and others insist it was a Yamaha CS-15. Sounds like an MS-20 to me, but I guess nobody knows for sure.
On a Juno you'd have to run midi into it to get the 4ths that tight, but I'd be surprised if it could create this sound even with a distortion pedal. I'd love to hear someone recreate it with a 106 just to answer the question as it's an interesting one.
I'm so impressed by this tutorial, very concise, clear and inspiring. Thank you for this!
Cheers, good to know!
I am super impressed with this @alexballmusic. You clearly know your synths. Amazing.
That Pro-One is my FAVORITE sync sound ever.
It used in Portal 2 and I LOVE it
There were two reasons why i got into synths about 6 years ago after playing guitar for a long time:
1. I've built most of the unique guitar effects and realized that all the new pedals are either clones of the stuff i've built, digital and i'd rather use VSTs for digital stuff or basically unpatchable eurorack modules so i realized it is time to get into modular synth DIY. The other reason is:
2. These sounds
Now that Daft Punk are split, this video will grow AF
I've watched this one many times. Thanks again for helping me understand how my MS-20 mini works!
Loving it. This kind of thing is invaluable to a newbie like me. Cheers!
Great. Good to know!
I LOVE THIS please make more of these dissecting DP’s discography!
That 303 is proper, I have no respect for an acid box you can still read res and cutoff on :)
Ha, yes. It's had some action ;)
I agree
superficial nonsense
@@larrymonteleone1789 it's a joke man don't get upset
At first I really thought you were a right knowitall with these synths, but I take that back & what you've done is fantastic to share! If I ever manage to buy that same equipment! Cheers Alex, I'm subscribing! And lastly even though I hadn't heard much from Daft Punk in years thanks for reminding me of this my first ever DP purchase all those years ago. Will never forget that legendary video.
I have to second, that this is amazing tutorial for a beginner (or someone like me whose been playing for a long time, but can’t totally devote myself to music because I have a company to run). I really appreciate this video, because it’s a mix of a good lesson/ great jump off points for creating my own sounds. Please do some more. Big fan, thank you.
i make music for fun and thought i'd be a new daft punk sounding guy, but not only do i love there stuff, now i am completely baffled by the work put into this! thanks for showing/explaining this mate!
Would be awesome if you did covers for their songs, you seem to have the exact perfect match of their sound! It’s amazing! You da man.
Awesome video and breakdown of these synth lines! If I could suggest one thing: it would be awesome to see how the sound evolves as you adjust the LFOs, envelopes, etc. instead of hearing the synth at the start and then at the very end. Great work otherwise cheers!
Yep, that's a valid point. Will take on board.
so glad the iron curtain that is the new youtube algorithm let me find your channel. Great stuff.
two years on your remark would be striped by the newer chinese style algae.
What a great way to end 2018! Thank you so much, Alex!
Thanks Michael.
Really cool bro! Great example of how to shape sounds with your synths.
Cheers dude :)
Darn! And I used up my Daft Punk joke already. Great video. You are a true Renaissance man.
Here's an idea for another one: how about a video on the Wendy Carlos "Switched on Bach"/"Clockwork Orange"/"Tron"/etc. sound? She did some amazing work with stone-age analog synths. I think she even had to shovel coal into the boilers on those old Moogs...
Haha, coal into the Moogs!
Funnily enough, I don't own anything by Moog. The reason being that their affordable stuff is comparable to what I already have (or lesser). So I'd have to get at least a Minimoog to justify that it was different, and they're about £3,500 or more. 😲
Think she was big on the Moog Modular stuff. That stuff sells for about £20,000. Makes the new Moog One look like pocket change.
Alex Ball Holy moly! 😳
Maybe we can take up a collection?!
Seriously, though, there are some VSTs out there that claim to do the job. Haven't played with any of them, but I sense some downloads in my future...
I had the Arturia Moog Modular and Minimoog. They were actually pretty decent, but obviously not identical to a fully analogue machine with all its idiosyncrasies.
Basically all the famous analog synths (including the ones in this video) are fixed/unpatchable versions of those old modular modules. With a lot of simplifications and circuit "cheapening". (I think the first Minimoog concept was just 5-6 of the modular modules in a case and an added keyboard)
@@AlexBallMusic Behringer Model D - £260 no brainer!
This is great. You made me fall in love with the MS-20! Brilliantly explained! Thank you! :)
Wow...the Korg synth was really ahead of its time with the versatility of those patches and all the other modulation effects
Seeing this the day they announced to stop.
Sad times.
@@AlexBallMusic Yea... sad robot times
Thank you for explaining what each step does exactly and not just dialing it in without explanation. I learned a ton!
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
Amazing video Alex. This video alone has basically started me on my synth journey, I am eternally grateful to you!
Just got the Robot Rock/Release the Beast sound sussed out on Prophet ‘08. Thanks for the AMAZING tutorial mate!
nice to go hunting for the machines used on the originals that were sampled too. Good stuff :)
Ahhh that 303 is filthy! You are a very lucky and talented man with all that gear! :)
I don’t play synth, I don’t understand wtf is going on, but I watched it, good show ! So much work and playing with everything to get the same sound ! That is awesome !!
Thanks Romain!
I love your channel Alex. Thank you for this. So good to see how these sounds were made.
Thanks for the fun walkthrough! Perfect depth and detail. Really enjoyed it. The hard sync stuff at the end made me think of “Let’s Go” by The Cars. Had to immediately listen to it, too. Also the Prophet 5, I think.
Happy New Year!
Glad you enjoyed. Yep, The Cars were definitely Prophet 5 users, as you say, so expect that's the culprit!
Happy New Year to you too.
Also Bobby Orlando for his The Flirts project (ie: Passion).
been looking for the Da Funk bassline tutorial forever! thank you so much!
Alex you have an incredible understanding of those old machines, I am more than impressed. I used to own the 303 but never understood how it worked. May I call you Professor Alex...
Channeling Boards of Canada at 11:29
Great job! Best video I've seen on recreating the Daft Punk!
Super envious of your collection here. I've got a Juno-106, DX7, and Moog Liberation. Im grateful for those, of course, but I've got a hunger for vintage gear that cannot be satisfied... Subbed!
I've never really been able to articulate why I loathe Daft Punk (I find them frivolous I guess), but Goddamn I love this video and I love your channel. You may very well be the best synth dude on youtube. Excellent stuff.
joel woods id love to hear your reasons whenever you figure out the way to articulate it; I personally love Daft Punk
I just find them wholly uninteresting. In the late 90's when they came out during the whole big beat thing I felt they paled in comparison to The Chemical Brothers. The Brothers were by far the most interesting of the bunch and they had the best songs and textures. Fatboy Slim was also pretty damn good back in the day. When I hit my tween years in '99-2000 I got into the more abstract stuff like Boards of Canada, Autechre, Aphex Twin and Amon Tobin. By this point I was far more interested in texture and sounds. Being a massive Boards of Canada fan I really got into squeezing the coolest sounds out of synths and samplers. I am also a hip-hop kid so the beats were far more up my alley. I've never really dug French House or techno. I am very picky when it comes to house or techno beats for I prefer break beats in the mold of James Brown. That is not to say that I don't like Detroit techno or the odd 12" on Kompakt. Also, Around the World bothers me to no end. Get Lucky is a big piece of shit and so are most of the singles IMHO. To me they are boring as fuck. That's not to say I don't like some of the projects they have been involved with outside of Daft Punk (Irreversible and co-producing some Kavinsky stuff). I never judge someone for liking something I don't like. We just differ. A lot of people don't like Boards of Canada, and that's ok (I guess).
In a club, One More Time kills. It's actually pretty great. So, they do some stuff that I dig. Please don't think I'm attacking you or your taste. I have many friends who love them. The only band I judge people for liking is Coldplay.
I remember that time period well with all the first albums by Daft Punk, Chemical Brothers and Fatboy Slim. Daft was the best in my opinion by the Bros was great. That first album by Daft is one of the all time greats in my opinion as far as electronic music. Fatboy Slim did not age well in my opinion, though I did listen to it.
Not much of a fan of either Daft Punk or Chemical Bros after their second albums though.
shamus jubenal I was living in London when Homework came out. It was praised then by Rough Trade records, the preference for EDM, bought it wright away. This album is pure magic, such a powerful inimitable sound.
Never seen your channel before. Excellent stuff, informative without being patronising, concise yet thorough. The utter joy I had a few years back making daft punk sounds on the MS20. Glorious stuff.
Thank you. Good to know it comes across like that.
MS-20 - you still have it, or has it since gone?
@@AlexBallMusic I have the mini these days. I think it can still growl like the original and like nothing else that I own.
@@danpreston564
You're in good company. Ben Watkins agrees . . . eventually:
ruclips.net/video/oUmtJVUU6R4/видео.html
Based on what you said, you seem to think the Mini compares favorably to the Original.
The sound of the MS20 preset is awesome ! Thank you to share it
8:40 I thought he was going to unlock smoke , 99 lives or something
Really well explained! I never had the chance use a 303, or in fact any of these - I'm now on a mission to revert from software to hardware :P
Just get the TD-3. It's effectively a carbon copy
The almighty algorithm brought me here,i'm glad it did. Got another sub ,thanks for the video dude
Brilliant, as usual! Love those three synths (and the Daft boys)
Cheers. How does the SH-5 compare to an original MS-20 out of interest?
Yet to record with one, but on paper it looks quite similar.
Ha - I would never have thought to put them in the same pen (not that they're pigs...). Compared to the MS-20, the SH-5 is more polite, regal. There is nothing on it that has the bite of the MS-20's filters. Then again, the 5 has the most buttery-rich BPF in the known universe; it's also far less semi-modular than the 20. You have to work both to give you the kind of bass that oozes out of some their contemporaries, especially when using resonance, but off the bat, I'd say the 5 has more girth. If I needed to cut through a mix, I'd pick the 20. You can experiment (sound design) far more with the Korg and, probably, make more music with the Roland!
Very interesting. Sounds a bit like my SH-101 which just sounds solid and full, but not aggressive. Use it all the time for bass parts.
Hopefully recording an SH-5 in a few weeks, so will be able to try that stuff out. Recorded with the SH-1 and SH-7, but imagine they're quite different.
I view the MS-20 as the "guitar" of my synths because that's the kind of role it shines at. Although I sometimes do softer stuff with it because it doesn't _have_ to be screaming to sound good.
Total gamechanger, just the tutorial I was needing for the TB 303.
Thank you 😊
Great video! Synthesis tutorial, song breakdown and a bit of classic synth know-how/history in one! I subscribed and am looking forward to more.
Such a great video, thank you! Awesome to see someone well-informed for once.
i will never forget that feeling when" da funk " blasted from the club speakers. Mitsubishi Da Funk ;)
Awesome video as usual! I really appreciate that tutorials. Take care and have a wonderful happy New year. Sam.
Thanks Sam. Have. Great new year.
Dr. Mix 'd love this!
That's a great tutorial Alex,the "Da Funk" theme was originally played with a Yamaha CS 15,great sound with the Korg MS20 though,very very nice!
I love how your fingers have worn the paint off the cutoff and resonance knobs. YAAASS :D
Love daft punk, love this tutorial, learned so much! Instant sub thanks! 🔥🙌🏽💪🏽❤️
I haven't listened to any Daft Punk really, but I might do after this video!
Great video as always mate.
Gotta love the French input of the last 20 years - Daft Punk, Justice, M83 etc. Goldmine.
man i love your explanation , the sound of your voice is PERFECT .. i´v enjoyed every second of this work ... many many thanks ..
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. 😀
You can definitely tell that Kevin Parker was inspired by Daft Punk’s use of the 303 on breathe deeper
"tutorial how to make the sound of daft punk" Burn 6k in gear and come back peasants ! ahaha
nice vid by the way ;)
Ha, yes the prices are nuts now. I paid about half of that for these three.
There's some cheaper alternatives listed in the description.
Behringer are cloning the Pro-1 , cant wait for the release ...
ms-20 clones are 300$ to 500$, put emulation of 303 through ms-20's ESP no one notices difference, Pro-1 clone is coming soon with price tag of 300-400$.. it's more like 600$ not 6k
Even LMMS comes with a free built in 303. Plus Behringer has you covered on the Korg and the Pro One now
Behringers 303 is $150!!!
How Daft Punk create Brainwasher?
Just subbed that Daft punk was amazing. Watched it a few times now.
Alex, this is brilliant and absolutely enjoyable! (And that lovely brit accent only adds to the charm ;-)
So in-depth, thanks for your hard work! Sounds incredible
Boss video mate. Helped me learn to program my TB-03 in original mode rather than step mode, so much better.
I've always been curious as how they got that infectious lead synth in Da Funk, i dig it! Next one you do i'd love to see how they did that fwippy lead from Burnin'!
I have no idea what he just said, but it was an awesome tutorial.
Hard to get my head round the fact that synthesizers were like advanced alien craft to kids back in the late 70s. The technology still seems fantastically futuristic to me, but to kids today it probably looks and sounds as vintage as Mozart 🤣
no way dude synths are timeless
Bruh almost nobody I know knows what a synthesizer is
This is amazing. thank you for sharing this. so many mysteries solved!
daft punk has completely conquered the sound of simplicity in the music and it is so fuckin amazing
I've watched thousands of synth videos... And this is BY FAR the most informational and accurate to the original artists. CHEERS!
This is awesome! Great work! :)
I'd love to see you do the synths in "End of Line", "Derezzed" from their TRON soundtrack and other pieces!
I love how nasty sounding the MS20 is!
This is warmin‘ my ❤️
Well, you do you love acid, so...
The knowledge you have is amazing, thanks for sharing!
Brilliant as always!
This is dope, Alex! SUBSCRIBED!
Loved this and subscribed immediately. This is so wonderfully informative!
Well done! Now if I could just get my hand on one of these synths without going bankrupt...
This is amazing! Great job!
I can't believe I just discovered you! I'm in love with your stuff
You nailed this video. Brilliant work.
More daft Punk sounds please!
Great video...defenetly this is a channel to follow :D
Please make a "daft Punk tutorial volume" 2.
You could try the "voyager" bassline and so many other cools sounds by them.
You went pretty close to the originals sounds (with great gears),very nice video!!
Hope in the vol. 2 :D
Never really realised the TB played a different scale than the main melody but works great although. Nicely done Alex!
A quick note for the 303 part. There's actually a note that is "impossible" to do in a normal 303 in the pattern as it's an octave too high for any note except C (this note is a C#.) What Daft Punk did was entered the entire pattern transposed down by a semitone and used the tuning knob to tune it back up, turning the octave up + high C note into a C#.
Great lesson on synths! Thanks a lot!
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you!
Thanks
First thing i did with my td3 never fought i could ever copy this tune from daftpunk. Thank you so much.
Well done, the TB303 ,right in the middle !Thanks dude
Awesome production reveal you obviously know your synths - thanks
I love how we prented like we know what we are doing in this reality - its embaressing really.
Wow... I was ask myself how to do it for years. Thanks Alex !
looking at your 303 it's easy to tell what your favorite knobs are. I'm totally with you there. lol
It was like then when I got it. It had been owned by a big acid fan. 😀
Thanks a lot, man. For those who interested in ‘sample’ sound in Da Funk - you should search for Screechy Horn sample on some of 90’s sample CDs (don t remember which one)
True synths> .... True music! Thank you man! :)
oh wow this is so specific and true to the original
An excellent video to show someone who claims electronic artists "just press play"
This is so true lol preach
Especially the original sound may have been a joyful accident of "wow! Liking that but not doing It now" and come back to it.
awesomeeee!!! Amazing!! I love it!! My congratulations for post this buddy