Old Skool House Tutorial
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- This week more classic sounds from some classic machines as we look at the Roland-based House music of the late 80s and early 90s.
It's about simple chords and melodies and bringing together the right combinations.
Drums: Roland TR-808 (1980)
Bass: Roland TB-303 (1981)
Chords: Roland Juno-6 (1982)
Melody: Roland SH-101 (1982)
Vocal samples: JJ Jeczalik's Art Of Sampling Library
Atmos samples: Loopmasters Warehouse Rave Library
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For only $10k and some change, you too can make 30 year old music!
Seriously though, really great and informative video, and great track at the end. Very Marshall Jefferson-esque
Not now, with Behringers gear :)
funny how behringer remade most of these, and they sound great
More like $1,600 max.
Behringer:
RD-8 $350
TD-3 $150/each
MS-1 $330
Roland:
JU-06A $400
Boss:
DM-2W Analog Delay Waza Craft $150 (I have an old DM-3 lying around, but lots of delay options)
Boss MT-2 Metal Zone $100 (may not need since TD-3 has distortion built in, lots of other distortions available too)
Rd-8, 2 TD-3, MS-1, JU-06, both pedals...$1630. Assuming you have a controller laying around or just use the MS-1 keyboard to program the chords on the JU. Also entirely likely to find things used cheaper.
@@definitelynotafox6262 That's rough.
Old school in new house.
Haha. Yes!
„My house is your house and your house is mine!“ 😉
Mi casa tu casa
It's far more frequent to see new house in old school
Well produced videos, amazing gear, content with actual musicality and fantastically clear breakdowns of what’s going on - this is my new favourite channel.
Thank you.
Interesting how sounds that by themselves are a bit weedy work brilliantly in the mix. Reminds me of solo syndrome where perfecting tracks in solo mode results in a crap mix.
@@williamtopping You couldn't be closer to the truth. I'm just discovering this now. My mixes have been disastrous. Working on an old school underground house track, and messing around with this.
William Topping Can’t tell you guys enough how helpful that is to hear. I’ve also been finding myself mistakenly searching for “uber sounds” rather than complimentary ones that are in their own space sonically. I guess I should’ve understood this when learning about compression.
Meanwhile, I'm over here trying to make songs with an extremely overdriven distorted monosynth, and finding that the sounds are just too big to layer anything else with it. I may not be too bright, but at least my sounds are! :P
Maybe some day I'll learn to stop doing this. But I swear, those feedback and distortion knobs are made of cocaine or something. I can't leave the damn things alone, even though I know I'll regret it later when I try to fit things into a mix.
That chord is very very Larry heard style.
very nice explanation . I'm a veteran prod. I have some of this gear & you've got me thinking of pulling it out,dusting it off & putting a few tracks together for a small project. God willing, I'm gonna do it. 📿 thanks for this inspiring video . Peace ✌
Yes! Do it. It's what the gear was meant for. :)
@@AlexBallMusic probably about 122bpm....?
Take a check of me messing around with my mini weasel...
ruclips.net/video/O0MBcAB-KtA/видео.html
Man, thats so great - those sounds bring me back to my youth
Why aren’t you already the world best music producer ever?
I loved this video! Thank you for your tips 🙏❤️
The magic of the "Roland System" on display, where triggering and connection between instruments, even completely disregarding MIDI, works across different generations, seamlessly and with perfect timing. It lends itself to a certain workflow where ideas develop fast, often with unexpected and pleasing results.
Oh yes! And the 808's timing is unique to it. You can see it on the grid, it's not 100% locked. Talking milliseconds, but it gives it a feel for sure, which gets passed onto other kit it's triggering.
Love these machines.
Everytime I hear an 808 pattern (on it's own), I immediately flash to '19' by Paul Hardcastle. Love the machine.
This is brilliant! Is it just me or is anyone else humming along the melody from Belfast by the Orbital when he plays the Juno 6?
TheJimbothecat yes. That and Ultramarine at some point. Not sure which track though
Magic! The real music! 👍 go on!
It's a timeless sound!
You are an incredibly talented musician, dont ever think otherwise
Great track! There’s something really satisfying about a steady 303 line with thick chord changes underneath it. Very informative and interesting video!
Jepp, that brightens my mood considerably. A little summer in the grey of February is just right! ;-)
Cheers Espen. We're weirdly having a warm snap in the UK. Out in t-shirts!
Thanks. Now I know why my DAW and all the add-on/plug-in instruments come with all those loops!
You might say I was 'out of the loop' for quite a few years. ; )
Well done! Decent track you put together to be fair! You'd have had a hit back in the day with it! Sounded a blend of late 80s House with some early to mid 90s, Orbital meets the Chemical Brothers!
Love the synth at the very end of the video too. Ace!
The simplicity of it all is it genius..love it.🙌🙌
Thanks for keeping it alive, brother. You're doing God's work with all you've put up on YT, mate. Cheers from the land of Aus.
Great sounds from classic tech. I used to own a 101 and a Juno 6. Bitterly regretting parting with them now.
way to go alex, great music, i always thought the 909 was house, but your 808 rocks!
Cheers Woody. 909 was also used heavily, absolutely. It has a more aggressive sound and is an analogue / digital hybrid, so slightly different flavour. Both classics.
909 will appearing in a certain video very soon. ;)
great vid...you make it look easy, thanks
I bought a couple of Jack Trax CDs, plus the House Sound of London compilation in about 1988, 89. Been hooked on this kind of stuff ever since: your track made me really nostalgic for this kind of music coming out of Detroit and Chicago, and of course, Kent (with Orbital). It really was my generations's version of punk, e.g., DIY music-making. Thank you for the really clear demo.
Yes, it's a great sound. So distinctive.
I also love all the drumbreak stuff with old vinyl samples. A whole other story.
Beautiful piece of music, great tutorial. Thank you!
Thanks :)
that intro song scratched my brain, in a good way!
Reminded me of early orbital, nicely put together tune.
アシッドなのにポジティブで明るいトラックで最高です。
名機揃いの機材に囲まれてとても楽しそうです。
Haha love it - from someone who was doing it back in the day :)
This track is a tune.
Thank you
Recreating this setup with Roland boutique synths and a TR-8 😀
You make great video and music ! 🇨🇭👋
After having a Virus kB as my only polysynth for about 18 years, and having been so proud of how much sonic territory it could cover, I grew increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that it was *simulated analog*. There was just something missing (a "soul" maybe?). Borrowing a Microbrute from a friend woke me up to the joys of hearing (perceiving) real voltages surging through real circuits. That was the setup. Then one day, a few years ago I decided to watch this video, not expecting too much from the Juno (being an overly-simplistic synth, compared to my Virus). But when Alex's hands first dropped onto those keys and the chords met my ears, I almost fell off my chair. I had no idea a simple synth could sound so beautiful. To this day (5 years later), I still rank it as my #1 favorite sound ever heard coming from a synth, in any song, video, demo, real life, etc
I absolutely love how worn the paint is on your 303. Super worn gear like that just makes me happy for some reason.
It shows that it's been used for making music. Same with worn guitar finishes.
It's rewarding that you have such excellent music theory even when creating electronic music.
Thanks. Yes, the theory is the universal constant when dipping in and out of different genres. Invaluable (at least I think so).
I don't often find electronic musicians who know theory. In fact a lot of good house, dnb, etc is created as a result of the lack of theory knowledge, so it can be quite atonal and clashing.
@@althejazzman funnily enough it was getting into synthesisers which made me want to finally learn theory and not just play notes off a sheet without knowing why, like I had done with my more traditional instruments.
One word: UNDERWORLD!
Yes! I was getting some "Jumbo" vibes from this too.
Another brilliant video. I'm getting into synths because I need a new alternative interest from my work, and it has always been a remote interest since my music teacher got a DX 7 in the 80s. Thanks very much for your videos, they're filling in knowledge, history and practical answers that would take a long time to acquire otherwise.
Clicked so fast. Been making acid lately with a TB3, this is great
this is lovely. great breakdown of the devices. I'd love to see you do one via the old school setup using the 808 as the master with din sync and the trigger outs like used on Voodoo Ray etc. I cant find any videos on how to do that, and I'd love to give it a go, and have had a little success, but I feel a bit lost as I'm not music smart. I want to avoid computer use in any way or form.
Thanks for posting, one of the best / well explained tutorials I've seen on here.
That was epic, gotta try this
Beautiful sound.
Great work. Simple but catchy song.
Thanks. :)
sooooo sick. great job man
The interesting thing about the Roland TR-808 is I just can't behind most of the sounds it has, but I end up using samples a lot to reinforce other ones. Need a boomy kick without a transient? Throw an 808 in there for the sub. Need a noisy snare that doesn't have much of a transient? Throw an 808 snare in there. To me, the biggest thing about the 808 was the hats...not so much the sound, but how the machine handled them.
Yes totally. People even use the 808 kick and tune it to make bass lines.
The charm and usefulness is because it occupies an area that other kit doesn't, as you were saying.
@@AlexBallMusic Even I don't use anything else sampled from an 808 (Sometimes I use Simmons samples instead, just depends), I almost always use 808 hats. I try to use other Hi-Hats, but even if the rest of the drums are completely different, I always come back to 808 hats.
This is a solid tutorial brother.
Your videos inspired me to get into synths. It was your Roland video that really got me hyped!
well done fella......i came from that era . took ,me back with the kit
It's really cool. I had 606,303,101,202 in the 80s. Thanks!!
I love a bit of old skool house. The 808 is such a good drum machine too, very influential.
So rich...wish i was less enchanted by this sound and open minded but...what a sound
Old school Italian dream house, nice! X
Fantastic made, as ever. Thanks for the great work for our community, Alex!
You too Rüdiger. I enjoy your uploads.
Congrats on the blue SH-101 btw!
Thanks for explaining what these iconic instruments can do! This is quickly becoming one of my absolute favorite channels!
Great tutorial, beautiful tune you did mate
Juno always reminds me of Larry Heard. Whatever it’s on
He used the Jupiter 6, which sounds a lot like the Juno 6/60 due to the same DCO's etc. love Larry Heard's music pure deep Chicago house. 😎👍✌️
Jupiter 6 is actually VCO (2 per voice) and digital envelopes / LFO. So it's a little different. Closer to the JX-3P I guess.
But it's certainly the Roland character. Jupiter is a better instrument. Hopefully get to try one at some point...
The Jupiter 6 has VCO's but they are Curtis chips and sound more like a Juno 6/60 than say a Jupiter 8 does, I always think they are more like DCO's but technically they are not so you're right @@AlexBallMusic
Very interesting. Thanks for the info. Would be interesting to have them all side by side to compare.
Philly Tee he also used the Juno-6
sounds lovely
I love Roland kit!
Those Juno chords are bliss
Really nice! Funny, I've been getting into early Chicago house and Detroit techno the past few months. Must be something in the air?! Another great vid - thanks!
Spring's nearly here, the mood lifts? Next thing you know, you're laying down major9 chords. :)
Great job. Lucky guy to have all this fab old kit in such great working order 😎
Great stuff Alex, I very much like your channel. Pure quality, highly enjoyable.
Thanks very much. :)
Reminds me of something The Beloved would have made 😊
beautiful track
THANK YOU! Beautiful work!
Loving the wear marks on the 303!
T Gin it’s called patina
HANKY BOSTIK thank you! That’s a fuckin great word. I must admit I had to google it. Never ashamed to learn.
Brilliant! Thanks Alex. You've made my y morning.
Thanks!
tnx for this! it was great to watch. i love all of your "how to videos".
Absolutely fantastic... great vibe on this one!
Great stuff reminds me of a tune I used to hear in the clubs in the early 90's, can't remember the name which is not surprising! 😎✌️
Frankie Knuckles - The Whistle Song
Lovely video. Instant Orbital vibe at the end.
Firt rithm with it variations sounds similar to Vogue by Madonna. What incredibles machines, that look so old now, but they was essencials to create thousans of unforgettables hits from the eighties, not so long ago. Very interesting man!
Those Juno chords also give me an immediate Underworld vibe. Dreamy.
Great gear! Enjoyed this thanks
F'ing beautiful!!! This shows you how great Roland instruments are!
Yes, the work together so well.
Excellent little tutorial, takes me right back this suff, God I'm so old lol
You're only as old as the synth you feel. ;)
love it love it love it
Love that track. Great sound.
I was actually able to somehow find a way to emulate the TR-303 tone on my Roland Juno DS! Amazing video!!
very smooth and goooood.
Roland is the dream
I actually tried to replicate your Juno preset on a vst, and to my surprise it sounded amazing
Great! Good to know.
GTG kwop 7?
@@undercooked6697 Say again?
@@alexturcani3234 I was wondering what vst you used...
@@undercooked6697 tal uno lx
Great channel! Great videos! Great comments! What more can you ask for a wintery grey morning?
What a gem of a find Alex ball :)
More genre-specific tutorials please 🙏 🙏 🙏
I call shenanigans Sir! I saw NO School Houses in your otherwise fine production,let alone an OLD one...SHENANIGANS!...
Aaaahhh! There we go! 😉❤️
303, only the original! It sounds so massive, so huge!
Again, great job!
Look at the wear on those knobs! That thing has been seriously played.
Love my 303. Had been after one for a very long time, so treasure it.
Would love to get my own 808 at some point, but there seems to be no tricks to find affordable ones. Too iconic I guess.
Never give up, follow your dreams (and needs) ... 😉
..i like......i was dancing to first house in the 80ies...😁
Love the wierd ubiquitousness of hm2 settings from Swedish death metal to old school house
Yes, the cheap overload machine. There's distortion and then there's that!
Splendid
clear mate telling it right straight great
Wow super cool!
Beautiful. Love it
So good
Great vid for inspiration! thanks Alex!!
But it's homegrown epic. By the people and for the people. It's so underground and cheap and doable, but it's also the pinnacle of the art of the possible... Good stuff, man...
Man this is the first comment I’ve ever made and I gotta say this bangs. Best channel on RUclips.
Thanks!
Not for cookery
very good video
Great video, man! Thanks a lot
Nice. 👍🏻 Thanks for being concise.
Just discovered your channel and this is the first vid I've seen........ Loved it. :-)