@@odhorizon y i k es ur really trying to stick up for a guy who just ran on the pitch to randomly hurt the goalkeeper ??? LOOOOOOOOOL humans are getting DUMBER and DUMBER
@@odhorizon did u have an abusive father? coz feeling anything but anger for someone whos trying to hurt u indicates some form of abuse from someone close to you. if so im sorry to hear why ur so fucked up in the head
Legend of a coach, did the right thing. Pitch invader got exactly what he deserved, anyone that gets attacked like that has the right to defend themselves and if the GK had stopped fighting back, the other guy would have gotten up and had another go. Ref was only doing what he thought the book would say... wrong decision in my opinion
Mat S no he didn't, how is that a right call, every other sane person would had reacted the same way as the keeper if you get atacked what is he suposed to do let the fan punch him?
Arturs Filipovs I agree with you completely mate. But replay it I think he had given the red card because he kept kicking him. The Ajax fan did deserve it and the keeper didn’t deserve sent off. But violent conduct like that is unacceptable in football officials eyes. Quite stupid tbh
Wow, everyone should follow the example of the Dutch FA. According to wiki... "The KNVB subsequently rescinded the red card, and Ajax banned Wesley van W from all of their home matches for life.[4] He was also sentenced to six months in prison, with two months suspended. He would also have to undergo treatment for an alcohol problem and report to police during all AZ, Ajax and Dutch national team matches for the following two years.[5] The KNVB ordered the match replayed in its entirety behind closed doors. On 19 January 2012, the match was replayed with Alvarado in goal. AZ beat Ajax 3-2 to progress through the quarter final.[6]" It's a pity the keeper didn't get a good clean kick at him and take out the fucking delinquent's teeth...
Totally disagree with the first one. The goalie should´ve been banned for kicking him while he´s laying on the ground (red card was absolutely right by the way - no opinion for the ref) and Alkmaar shoud´ve been punished for just leaving the pitch. The only person who is allowed to stop a match is the ref and not the coach. That this guy Wesley is banned for life is completely right. He deserved nothing better.
NunzioFunaki Had it been a pitch invasion, and the goalie cleaned up the guy without any other provocation, then the red card is justified. But it wasn't just a pitch invasion, he assaulted the keeper, who reacted pretty normally to that situation, and I would have a similar reaction. This act of assault transcends the current game of football occurring, and the ref was stupid to issue a red card without actually seeing what occurred. This put the current game in jeopardy and the coach was probably right to stop the game, as the reaction from the Dutch FA affirms.
@@jmsjhnsn98hij deed het om zijn eigen spelers in veiligheid te nemen als dit bestraft wordt door rood kan je als supporter tactisch spelers rood kan geven
Awesome response by the coach. Wish more managers would do that. What's the point of playing if the ref is gonna screw you anyways? So the ref is gonna make us lose why waste our time?
@@aldocuacuas5838 Nah this ref is/was one of the best we have in NL, the ref took responsibility by cancelling the match himself without blaming the trainer for taking his players off.
There should be a fucking rule "If any of the supporters will come on the pitch, he will be treated as an invisible object, so players can kick his ass without any consequences"
That wasn't coming to the pitch was invading the player. How many have come to the pitch and never get kicked? People say, he should have stopped kicking him when he was on ground, how sure would he be that the guy would lay and wait to be handcuffed?
That's stupid to be kicking out the players for defending themselves, the guy went running up to him. I think the goalie was within his right to knock him down and keep kicking him until officials arrive to restrain the man. Never know what the intent of a guy crazy enough to run on the field is anyway!
lycanthropyxxx Any sort of violent conduct by the players is punished by a red card, doesn't matter whom is it against. I'm not blaming the goalie, actually feel a bit sorry for him, but the referee was right to show the red card.
IAmMrRedTie Is that the official rule? I think that needs to be looked at and changed because I'm starting to look at it as the fan could have done some injury to the goalie, and if the goalie retaliated, he be red carded
IAmMrRedTie That's absolutely right. That idiot goalkeeper couldn't resist his anger. What an idiot "sportsman". I wonder how much penalty does AZ pay after this withdrawal.
I'm dutch but i'll say it in english so everyone can understand. I find the reaction of the goalkeeper absolutely normal, but i understand the referee as well. He's there to enforce the rules so he has to follow them. It is said that it is red by the book and so he has to show him the red card. But what he said afterwards was important too. If that rule is pathetic it has to be changed and not the referee who made the correct call should be looked bad on, but the people who made those rules.
Referees constantly ignore or apply common sense within the rules, I hold a referee's ticket (admittedly a low level one ) there is nowhere in the rule book that says you HAVE to apply every rule in a 100% hard and fast way, in fact, in most cases rules are open to interpretation, particularly when it comes to the issuing of cards.
Finally a team who walks off when something like this happens. I don´t say that any decision they don´t agree with should be like this, but there are some matches i´ve seen when i wonder why the hell the manager keeps the team on the pitch (As an example, there was a rigged match where the reff gave like 5 penalties in one game to one of the teams, because of reasons no one could understand)
Supporters like that should be banned from any stadium, any football game forever, professional and amateur clubs alike, given a big fat penalty they have to work for to pay off. Let them enjoy the results of their action and be an example to other shitty supporters for what NOT to do.
If you attack someone you cant not expect to be attacked back. If the player did run off and the fan chased him how could we not know the player wouldnt get hurt.
As a fan of Turkish Super League Fenerbahçe, I find the decision taken by the coach to be very correct, but based on what happened in the Trabzonspor Fenerbahçe match,
There is a difference between defense and retaliation. I honestly feel in this case, the goal keeper was attacked and defended himself against an aggressor he reasonably could think was not done attacking him. I mean, even on the ground the aggressor kept throwing kicks at him. The goal keeper's kicks were literally aimed at the aggressor's legs. All of his use of force were directed at the imminent threat as a means to stop that threat. At no point did he retaliate or was his reaction disproportional to the threat, it fact, he was very restrained. Self-defense is not warrant for a red card.
You are taking the idea "don't kick somone when they're down" too literally. Yes, it's dishonourable to keep beating on someone when they are defeated - whether they are on the floor OR still standing! But a couple of seconds after he's been attacked, it's too early to make that decision. You have to look after yourself in this world. You can't rely on anyone else - not even always on those who are paid to do so.
Dit was de eerste wedstrijd waar ik ooit heen ging als 9 jarige jongen. Ik had er zo veel zin in. Komt deze malloot het veld op. Gelukkig mochten scholen toen zich aanmelden om de wedstrijd te kijken en wij mochten er heen. Verloor ajax met 3-2 😑. Sindsdien nooit meer naar een ajax wedstrijd gegaan.
it wasn't "violent conduct" because the fan ran at him and attacked him. he was defending himself. even kicking the guy on the ground is trying to make sure the guy doesn't get back up and attack him with a weapon he might have. good on the AZ manager to say fuckoff we're leaving.
No it is not like if another players kicks you and you kick back. Because the fan cannot get a red card in the match. Yeah he can get a fine, maybe even jail if he harms someone, but thats pretty much it. Also it is his fucking decision he goes to the pitch in the first place... The player on the other hand. What is he supposed to do when a man goes near him threatening his life? Oh jeez better not kick him because you know I may get a red card.
Onterecht rood. Heeft niets te maken met geweld tussen VOETBALLERS OP HET PLEIN, maar met een speler die zich verdedigd tegen iemand (geen speler dus) die het plein oprent met de bedoeling ernstige kwetsuren toe te brengen. De speler verdedigt zich, geeft die lulhannes enkele schoppen en krijgt dan rood hiervoor???? Ach komaan nou zeg.
Hij krijgt rood omdat hij bleef schoppen terwijl die idioot op de grond lag. Dat is geen verdediging meer dus is de rode kaart te verantwoorden. Niettegenstaande valt de reactie van de doelman te begrijpen, die supporter wilde hem wel degelijk aanvallen. Het is vooral een spijtig incident waarbij maar 1 idioot schuld heeft.
In the press conference the referee says "I was following the rules" because it was a 'violent attack of the goalkeeper'. So in the rules it states a violent act is forbidden could be punished with yellow/red towards anyone on the field. Later the red card was dismissed by the KNVB.
I don't know how I would have react. I think I would be in shock, but I think he used his South American temperament. - Can you understand that? Like I said, I dont know how I would have react. One person would react like this, and another person will react like 'what the hell?' Everone has his own emotion.
А якщо у нього був ніж? Я вважаю, що голкіпер мав забезечити собі безпеку і позбавити того хулігана на певний час можливості орієнтуватися у просторі. Допоки не прибуде охорона
I dont understand what has happened entirely because I can’t understand dutch. A pitch invader jumped towards the goalkeeper in a slightly bizzare or aggressive manner. He didn’t seem to make contact. Then the goalkeeper kicked him three times, the final two kicks being on the ground as hard as possible. Slightly different, because it was off the pitch but Cantona was banned and fined for 9 months for kicking an aggressive and provocative fan one time with no real power. Was this goalkeeper banned and fined for this?
maybe you lack critical thinking, How the goalkeeper deserved the red, if you watch the replay the invader tries to attack the gk, no matter if he hit or not, then the goalkeeper panicked and tries to defend himself, the security has the responsibkity, not the gk, and it should never be a redcard. Poor refereeing.
As soon as security arrived, he stopped. For all the keeper knew, this man could have had a knife! He knocked him to the ground and made sure he stayed there until security ran over and broke it up. He did absolutely nothing wrong. If you had been attacked like this, do you really think you'd have kept an ice cool head? No. "... no wonder there is a problem in society today." I have no idea what that even means. The keeper was well within his right to kick that man until security got there.
De Boer said he doesn't know how he would have reacted if he got attacked on the pitch. The referee explains why he went for a straight red. He says that he saw the goalkeeper kept on kicking the fan when he was already on the ground. That's an aggressive action by the goalkeeper, which lead to the red card since aggressive actions are forbidden by the FIFA-rules.
Todo esté desastre lo provocó el referí con su pésimo arbitraje y la seguridad de la cancha por no impedir la entrada de ese aficionado, me gustaría saber el nombre del técnico que retiró a su equipo...TENGO ENTENDIDO que después se le quitó la tarjeta roja al arquero y el partido se continuó en otro momento.
What an absolute disaster this referee's decision was. I am not a fan of either team, but first, the no-penalty decision was shambolic and then this incident. What was he expecting? That hooligan could have injured the goalkeeper!!
the black shirt guy attack first well the good thing is he only got kicked by goalie but what if he got kicked by the rest of the team you know what happen if it does
Ajax hooligans enters the pitch and attacks the AZ goalie. The goalie protects himself and kicks the hooligan...the referee proceeds to give him the red card. AZ-manager Verbeek decides to take his team off the pitch because of this. I'm an Ajax fan, but this was a good call from Verbeek.
I'm confused as to why you keep referring to the law. Nobody is claiming the keeper should have been arrested, just that he was right to have been sent off by the referee.
+kflem80 It's first your personal safety than any trivial football game; He was under attack so He did what He had to do cause he didn't know what was happening.
***** I don't know man, it’s your own safety you know, but you have a valid point though cause I’m against any violence in this beautiful game that all of us enjoy. ‘Pura Vida’ from Costa Rica.
***** Yeah man, the guy was on the ground so the kicks were uncalled in some way and I respect that point of view for sure. Sometimes people just lose it :( .
+kflem80 the fan deserved it..the keeper acted in self defense..if you attack someone you should be ready to face the consequences ! the ref was wrong !!
+Deecky Rizzo The 'fan' did aggravated assault on a player. Using violence with means to injure. There is nothing about kicking the fuck out of the fan to defend himself from that in the rulebook. Think again next time.
epicgaminggames That is actually what IS IN the rules. You can't kick anyone on the field. That's why the referee showed red card. I think it was well deserved, even if it was self defence. He's a professional in work hours... you can't do that in any job. And there are people in charge of those fans. And shut up with your "think again" shit... everyone has an opinion, and people who doesn't share yours, aren't less "smart" than you... just listen theirs and give yours, if they change their opinion, that's well, but if not... it doesn't concern to you.
epicgaminggames It's too difficult to me to explain the rules, because i don't speak english very well, but i think it's common sense to think KICKS on the field is against the rules. So, anyway... i'm glad the ref did his job even against the opinion of people who think kicking the shit out of a person is OK.
I think your English is quite good. But you're basically saying that just a kick against anything is against the rules. I know that's not what you mean. But still. Still think the red card was unnecessary and that card did take it's toll for both Ajax and the ref his reputation.
An Ajax supporter(on drugs, I think) came on the field and attacked the AZ(team in blue) goalkeeper, who defended himself. The goalie then got a red card for violence, and the manager of AZ send the whole team off. It's a shame club football is often disrupted by violent supporters.
oh okay, that's what I thought happened, but couldn't understand the language. Thank you for your reply. and yes it really is sad the idea of violence and football. and the Ajax supporter kinda deserved it.
An Ajax fan attacked the AZ goalie, the goalie fought back and by the rules, the ref had to give him a red card for that, which if ofcourse ridiculous. The AZ coach was outraged with the decision of the ref so he stopped the match.
Good decision making of the referee. Kicking when someone is on the ground isn’t self defense anymore. It’s the same energy as the fan rushing to kick the goalkeeper. Self defense was done first. Attacking after which means red card.
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Great call from the coach. Why is your player being sent off when security can’t do their job?
@@odhorizon y i k es ur really trying to stick up for a guy who just ran on the pitch to randomly hurt the goalkeeper ??? LOOOOOOOOOL humans are getting DUMBER and DUMBER
@@odhorizon did u have an abusive father? coz feeling anything but anger for someone whos trying to hurt u indicates some form of abuse from someone close to you. if so im sorry to hear why ur so fucked up in the head
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@@odhorizon u dumb for saying that for sure. it called defending your life u dont know what this guy do after he stand up
@@odhorizon oh yeah next Time someone tries tout hit me I will just give him a hug and tell him it’s fine
Legend of a coach, did the right thing. Pitch invader got exactly what he deserved, anyone that gets attacked like that has the right to defend themselves and if the GK had stopped fighting back, the other guy would have gotten up and had another go. Ref was only doing what he thought the book would say... wrong decision in my opinion
that was a good call from the coach...
noit wasnt. the ref made the right call, even if it seems dumb
Protect your players.
Mat S no he didn't, how is that a right call, every other sane person would had reacted the same way as the keeper if you get atacked what is he suposed to do let the fan punch him?
Arturs Filipovs I agree with you completely mate. But replay it I think he had given the red card because he kept kicking him. The Ajax fan did deserve it and the keeper didn’t deserve sent off. But violent conduct like that is unacceptable in football officials eyes. Quite stupid tbh
Edin Kulin exellent call
Wow, everyone should follow the example of the Dutch FA. According to wiki...
"The KNVB subsequently rescinded the red card, and Ajax banned Wesley van W from all of their home matches for life.[4] He was also sentenced to six months in prison, with two months suspended. He would also have to undergo treatment for an alcohol problem and report to police during all AZ, Ajax and Dutch national team matches for the following two years.[5] The KNVB ordered the match replayed in its entirety behind closed doors. On 19 January 2012, the match was replayed with Alvarado in goal. AZ beat Ajax 3-2 to progress through the quarter final.[6]"
It's a pity the keeper didn't get a good clean kick at him and take out the fucking delinquent's teeth...
It wasn't entirely behind closed doors, only kids could go the game.
Totally disagree with the first one. The goalie should´ve been banned for kicking him while he´s laying on the ground (red card was absolutely right by the way - no opinion for the ref) and Alkmaar shoud´ve been punished for just leaving the pitch. The only person who is allowed to stop a match is the ref and not the coach.
That this guy Wesley is banned for life is completely right. He deserved nothing better.
NunzioFunaki Had it been a pitch invasion, and the goalie cleaned up the guy without any other provocation, then the red card is justified. But it wasn't just a pitch invasion, he assaulted the keeper, who reacted pretty normally to that situation, and I would have a similar reaction. This act of assault transcends the current game of football occurring, and the ref was stupid to issue a red card without actually seeing what occurred. This put the current game in jeopardy and the coach was probably right to stop the game, as the reaction from the Dutch FA affirms.
Why play behind close doors? All the people who paid for that game should than be refunded
Ooh
The Ajax players were also saying that it wasn't a red card.
@@ambrascetnarwhal2695 and nobody cares about that the goalkeeper was right to do that
Goed gedaan van verbeek
Volledig gelijk
@@Bebefire_😂🎉😢😮 1:52
Maar hij deed het vanwege de rode kaart. Niet vanwege onveiligheid. Wees dan eerlijk tegen de media.
@@jmsjhnsn98hij deed het om zijn eigen spelers in veiligheid te nemen als dit bestraft wordt door rood kan je als supporter tactisch spelers rood kan geven
Hij zegt: kom op AZ spelers allemaal van het veld af wij gaan deze omstandigheden niet verder voetballen
Awesome response by the coach. Wish more managers would do that. What's the point of playing if the ref is gonna screw you anyways? So the ref is gonna make us lose why waste our time?
And if the refs won't protect your players, get out of there.
& he didn’t call the Penalty for them prior to the red card🤣🤦🏽♂️ that ref had an egenda
@@aldocuacuas5838 Nah this ref is/was one of the best we have in NL, the ref took responsibility by cancelling the match himself without blaming the trainer for taking his players off.
Heel veel respect voor de trainer die zijn ploeg beschermd . Spijtig dat er niet meer trainers zijn met zo'n lef
There should be a fucking rule "If any of the supporters will come on the pitch, he will be treated as an invisible object, so players can kick his ass without any consequences"
That wasn't coming to the pitch was invading the player. How many have come to the pitch and never get kicked? People say, he should have stopped kicking him when he was on ground, how sure would he be that the guy would lay and wait to be handcuffed?
That's stupid to be kicking out the players for defending themselves, the guy went running up to him. I think the goalie was within his right to knock him down and keep kicking him until officials arrive to restrain the man. Never know what the intent of a guy crazy enough to run on the field is anyway!
Exactly
The pitch belongs to players and fans should not be overthere. I respected the coach of AZ.. He did the right thing
lycanthropyxxx
Any sort of violent conduct by the players is punished by a red card, doesn't matter whom is it against. I'm not blaming the goalie, actually feel a bit sorry for him, but the referee was right to show the red card.
IAmMrRedTie Is that the official rule? I think that needs to be looked at and changed because I'm starting to look at it as the fan could have done some injury to the goalie, and if the goalie retaliated, he be red carded
IAmMrRedTie That's absolutely right. That idiot goalkeeper couldn't resist his anger. What an idiot "sportsman".
I wonder how much penalty does AZ pay after this withdrawal.
great attitude by the coach.very praise worthy
That coach is a legend
I'm dutch but i'll say it in english so everyone can understand. I find the reaction of the goalkeeper absolutely normal, but i understand the referee as well. He's there to enforce the rules so he has to follow them. It is said that it is red by the book and so he has to show him the red card. But what he said afterwards was important too. If that rule is pathetic it has to be changed and not the referee who made the correct call should be looked bad on, but the people who made those rules.
Thank you for the translation, captain!
Yes, FIFA should change the regulation about this.
Referees constantly ignore or apply common sense within the rules, I hold a referee's ticket (admittedly a low level one ) there is nowhere in the rule book that says you HAVE to apply every rule in a 100% hard and fast way, in fact, in most cases rules are open to interpretation, particularly when it comes to the issuing of cards.
I don't care what the rules say. Terrible ref.
Referees can also use something called “Common Sense”. We all have it. Google translate it bro’
@Xeder come to indonesia ass hole
Finally a team who walks off when something like this happens. I don´t say that any decision they don´t agree with should be like this, but there are some matches i´ve seen when i wonder why the hell the manager keeps the team on the pitch (As an example, there was a rigged match where the reff gave like 5 penalties in one game to one of the teams, because of reasons no one could understand)
Supporters like that should be banned from any stadium, any football game forever, professional and amateur clubs alike, given a big fat penalty they have to work for to pay off.
Let them enjoy the results of their action and be an example to other shitty supporters for what NOT to do.
He should have to pay for everyone's ticket
+AIIUserNamesInvalid 30 Years bruh, not for life
If you attack someone you cant not expect to be attacked back. If the player did run off and the fan chased him how could we not know the player wouldnt get hurt.
As a fan of Turkish Super League Fenerbahçe, I find the decision taken by the coach to be very correct, but based on what happened in the Trabzonspor Fenerbahçe match,
I support our esteemed president Ali Koç's decision to withdraw from the league.
@@aliumur561 helal olsun reis
@@aliumur561what withdraw? 😂
There is a difference between defense and retaliation. I honestly feel in this case, the goal keeper was attacked and defended himself against an aggressor he reasonably could think was not done attacking him. I mean, even on the ground the aggressor kept throwing kicks at him. The goal keeper's kicks were literally aimed at the aggressor's legs. All of his use of force were directed at the imminent threat as a means to stop that threat. At no point did he retaliate or was his reaction disproportional to the threat, it fact, he was very restrained. Self-defense is not warrant for a red card.
In a situation with full of adrenalin, you cant know the exact situation to stop. They keeper cant know, maybe the attacker has a knife.
He even was in full defensive stance when the dude was on floor, looking around if no one else was charging at him, pure defensive/survival instinct
You are taking the idea "don't kick somone when they're down" too literally. Yes, it's dishonourable to keep beating on someone when they are defeated - whether they are on the floor OR still standing! But a couple of seconds after he's been attacked, it's too early to make that decision.
You have to look after yourself in this world. You can't rely on anyone else - not even always on those who are paid to do so.
great move from the coach !! Bad decision from the ref. He cant sent him off, its not goalkeeprs fault because he was attacked.
Man a badman 🔥 Costa Rica mi patria querida, here from Los Gordos Podcast, big up Alvarado!
good coach
Dit was de eerste wedstrijd waar ik ooit heen ging als 9 jarige jongen. Ik had er zo veel zin in. Komt deze malloot het veld op. Gelukkig mochten scholen toen zich aanmelden om de wedstrijd te kijken en wij mochten er heen. Verloor ajax met 3-2 😑. Sindsdien nooit meer naar een ajax wedstrijd gegaan.
Johan Cruyff schaal 2013. Was verdomme me 9e verjaardag, we gingen naar het stadion (ik was voor az). Staan we 2-0 voor en verliezen we 3-2.
Jammer voor je dat is niet leuk😢
it wasn't "violent conduct" because the fan ran at him and attacked him. he was defending himself. even kicking the guy on the ground is trying to make sure the guy doesn't get back up and attack him with a weapon he might have. good on the AZ manager to say fuckoff we're leaving.
WTF the judge wanted that the goalkeeper have done? Stay there like a martyr?This referee is a disgrace. What he's saying in the conference?
i don't think it was the fact he defended himself, more or so that after the guy was down and defenseless he kept kicking him
No it is not like if another players kicks you and you kick back. Because the fan cannot get a red card in the match. Yeah he can get a fine, maybe even jail if he harms someone, but thats pretty much it. Also it is his fucking decision he goes to the pitch in the first place...
The player on the other hand. What is he supposed to do when a man goes near him threatening his life? Oh jeez better not kick him because you know I may get a red card.
If you knew the rules you would not judge the referee like that!
@@ambrascetnarwhal2695If you used your brain for once, you would actually make sense.
the referee said that he was simply following the rules, wether we like it or not
Manager did a fantastic move by telling players to leave the game...!
i love it how the supporter on the tribune at 4:32 on the left side of the screen starts clapping
Onterecht rood. Heeft niets te maken met geweld tussen VOETBALLERS OP HET PLEIN, maar met een speler die zich verdedigd tegen iemand (geen speler dus) die het plein oprent met de bedoeling ernstige kwetsuren toe te brengen. De speler verdedigt zich, geeft die lulhannes enkele schoppen en krijgt dan rood hiervoor???? Ach komaan nou zeg.
het was wel een beetje overdreven maar rood vindt ik ook overdreven
Hij krijgt rood omdat hij bleef schoppen terwijl die idioot op de grond lag. Dat is geen verdediging meer dus is de rode kaart te verantwoorden. Niettegenstaande valt de reactie van de doelman te begrijpen, die supporter wilde hem wel degelijk aanvallen. Het is vooral een spijtig incident waarbij maar 1 idioot schuld heeft.
meerdere trappen voor de zekerheid dat die gast dat niet meer doet
dyon ewals Dus is het geen verdediging meer.
ja je hebt gelijk
why do i feel like im on an airplane during the interview when the guy on the left talks
The actual incident starts a little past 2:10, if you don't feel like digging through the video to find it
To come some years later and to see most of Ajax players are now in world class teams...
The referee was drunk ?
The ref did what's stated in the rules.
@@ambrascetnarwhal2695 except for that penalty kick
@@ionut1947 Yeah. I meant the incident involving the goalkeeper.
@4:31 the ajax fans are applauding for the goalkeeper reaction
I still don't understand how the goalie got into so much trouble for this. He was defending himself. Ridiculous from the referee and the KNVB.
In the press conference the referee says "I was following the rules" because it was a 'violent attack of the goalkeeper'.
So in the rules it states a violent act is forbidden could be punished with yellow/red towards anyone on the field.
Later the red card was dismissed by the KNVB.
@@Santos043what a dumb ass ref ref should be fired. Ref doesn’t understand he is a human not a robot
Now that's a true coach. Became a fan of Alvarado after this one.
This is awesome, I just wish it had some English subtitles or something. I have no idea what's being said
3:40 dennis bergkamp on the left like a boss
you know you fucked up when both of teams are telling you that should not be a red card
Rules are rules
But
Greatest goalkeeper ever
Want als de dader op de grond viel en wordt getrapt is ie opeens zielig en is het geweld. Wat een gek
If I was even on the opposing team and saw that I'd pull our team off as well in protest of such a stupid red card.
I would like to know in what year was that tragic moment, please
2011 or 2012 i think
I don't know how I would have react.
I think I would be in shock, but I think he used his South American temperament.
- Can you understand that?
Like I said, I dont know how I would have react.
One person would react like this, and another person will react like 'what the hell?'
Everone has his own emotion.
А якщо у нього був ніж? Я вважаю, що голкіпер мав забезечити собі безпеку і позбавити того хулігана на певний час можливості орієнтуватися у просторі. Допоки не прибуде охорона
the referee can't punish the fan for his stupidity, but he can punish esteban for his attacks
2019 Jajaj
Que saico Esteban
jajaja legal
I dont understand what has happened entirely because I can’t understand dutch. A pitch invader jumped towards the goalkeeper in a slightly bizzare or aggressive manner. He didn’t seem to make contact. Then the goalkeeper kicked him three times, the final two kicks being on the ground as hard as possible. Slightly different, because it was off the pitch but Cantona was banned and fined for 9 months for kicking an aggressive and provocative fan one time with no real power. Was this goalkeeper banned and fined for this?
maybe you lack critical thinking, How the goalkeeper deserved the red, if you watch the replay the invader tries to attack the gk, no matter if he hit or not, then the goalkeeper panicked and tries to defend himself, the security has the responsibkity, not the gk, and it should never be a redcard. Poor refereeing.
dat waren mooie trappen ik geef hem een 9.5
ik een 9.8 had iets harder gekund
Maaar wrm een hoger cijfer alss je vind dat er toch iets beter kon
I’d do the same if i were the manager. How do you supposed to do when fan attack you? Lay down and take the beats?
Guys I'm rewatching this again and I ddnt fail to notice the penalty he just denied AZ
He clearly had an agenda
The Dutch FA has been pro Ajax since forever
Luckily AZ Alkmaar won the game eventually. If I remember correctly it was finished behind closed doors.
@@THO-BRO2000 Only childeren were allowed to watch the game
Ajacied in hart en nieren maar Oh oh wat heb ik genoten van Esteban deze dag!
As soon as security arrived, he stopped. For all the keeper knew, this man could have had a knife! He knocked him to the ground and made sure he stayed there until security ran over and broke it up. He did absolutely nothing wrong. If you had been attacked like this, do you really think you'd have kept an ice cool head? No.
"... no wonder there is a problem in society today." I have no idea what that even means. The keeper was well within his right to kick that man until security got there.
What do the interviews from 5:15 (De Boer / referee post-match) onward translate to?
De Boer said he doesn't know how he would have reacted if he got attacked on the pitch.
The referee explains why he went for a straight red. He says that he saw the goalkeeper kept on kicking the fan when he was already on the ground. That's an aggressive action by the goalkeeper, which lead to the red card since aggressive actions are forbidden by the FIFA-rules.
Dutch language so different :) u hear one english word in a while and try to peace the centance together but you just cant! )))
Todo esté desastre lo provocó el referí con su pésimo arbitraje y la seguridad de la cancha por no impedir la entrada de ese aficionado, me gustaría saber el nombre del técnico que retiró a su equipo...TENGO ENTENDIDO que después se le quitó la tarjeta roja al arquero y el partido se continuó en otro momento.
Kom je een keer football kijken, zijn ze naar 38 min al klaar. Dat is peg
Ik ben echt een diehard Ajacied, maar die rode kaart en die Wesley sloegen allebei echt helemaal nergens op ! :s Gelukkig is dit verleden tijd.
volgens mij probeerde wesley wel ergens op te slaan....
Dus als jij voor je bek wordt geschopt, en jij slaat terug uit zelfverdediging, dan kun jij zeker leven met rood?
Je snapt het duidelijk niet.
Nope :P
die ajax spelers geven die keeper ook nog een schouderklopje, haha :P
Zo hoort het
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Tja die keeper had veel harder moeten trappe
What an absolute disaster this referee's decision was. I am not a fan of either team, but first, the no-penalty decision was shambolic and then this incident. What was he expecting? That hooligan could have injured the goalkeeper!!
Yo. Did the ref actually come out and make a statement. That's crazy.
Dec 2011... TAKE ME BACK PLS 😭
06:33 "....I'm here to control the rules, and the rules say that this is a red card."
People like these scare me.
When I first saw Alvarado kick the supporter I thought "WTF is wrong with this guy?"... fortunately, now I know the truth.
What is the truth ? I wanna know
Yousef Mwafi Didn't you see the Ajax fan attacking the goalkeeper? He just defended himself.
+MrJuanbaz oh yeah I thought you meant something else
Yousef Mwafi It's OK haha
but the man was on the floor and the goalkeeper was still kicking him.
the black shirt guy attack first
well the good thing is he only got kicked by goalie but what if he got kicked by the rest of the team
you know what happen if it does
What happened to the Az team? Were they suspended or fined for leaving the match?
Well done manager :) (y)
Ajax hooligans enters the pitch and attacks the AZ goalie. The goalie protects himself and kicks the hooligan...the referee proceeds to give him the red card. AZ-manager Verbeek decides to take his team off the pitch because of this. I'm an Ajax fan, but this was a good call from Verbeek.
Wesley van Wilsem, schaam je
Exact
never liked Verbeek, but the decision to leave was golden!
gertjan verbeek Held
The guy is defending himself because security, who's job it is, did not, and you give him a RED card haha.
referee had no choice but to send him off for violent conduct
+Pat McGovern the card was revoked and the match replayed
wow, amazing, the guy is a thug
I'm confused as to why you keep referring to the law. Nobody is claiming the keeper should have been arrested, just that he was right to have been sent off by the referee.
Letter of the law the referee was right to show the red card. Once the fan was on the floor but the keeper still kicked him it becomes violent conduct
+kflem80 It's first your personal safety than any trivial football game; He was under attack so He did what He had to do cause he didn't know what was happening.
***** I don't know man, it’s your own safety you know, but you have a valid point though cause I’m against any violence in this beautiful game that all of us enjoy. ‘Pura Vida’ from Costa Rica.
***** Yeah man, the guy was on the ground so the kicks were uncalled in some way and I respect that point of view for sure. Sometimes people just lose it :( .
To be fair he is defending himself I suppose. I don't know what i would do in that situation
+kflem80 the fan deserved it..the keeper acted in self defense..if you attack someone you should be ready to face the consequences ! the ref was wrong !!
Wasnt the keeper the one who got the red?? Or what happened?
Violent conduct is a red card, the ref got it spot on!
love it how he gets ready to punch the guard as well. Don't fuck with Esteban. greetings from Costa Rica
Ik had het zelfde gedaan als de keeper
This is why Dutch football is like the 17th best league
6th best league in the world but ok
It's really weird everyone think this was not red card. There are rules, violence is not allowed, and the ref did his job.
+Deecky Rizzo The 'fan' did aggravated assault on a player. Using violence with means to injure. There is nothing about kicking the fuck out of the fan to defend himself from that in the rulebook. Think again next time.
epicgaminggames That is actually what IS IN the rules. You can't kick anyone on the field. That's why the referee showed red card. I think it was well deserved, even if it was self defence. He's a professional in work hours... you can't do that in any job. And there are people in charge of those fans.
And shut up with your "think again" shit... everyone has an opinion, and people who doesn't share yours, aren't less "smart" than you... just listen theirs and give yours, if they change their opinion, that's well, but if not... it doesn't concern to you.
Prove that it is in the rules, and laddy, next time you go on a rampage, think again. I never called him less smart or anything. Knob
epicgaminggames It's too difficult to me to explain the rules, because i don't speak english very well, but i think it's common sense to think KICKS on the field is against the rules. So, anyway... i'm glad the ref did his job even against the opinion of people who think kicking the shit out of a person is OK.
I think your English is quite good. But you're basically saying that just a kick against anything is against the rules. I know that's not what you mean. But still. Still think the red card was unnecessary and that card did take it's toll for both Ajax and the ref his reputation.
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I'm a Ajax fan, well done to the AZ coach for not taking any bullshit
@Robin Truby being a coach is not just a job
Why didn’t the ref call that foul at 27mins??? There was obviously a bias and it was great they walked off!
heb je wel geluisterd naar de uitleg? kijk anders de video nog een keertje
"Want to see my rulebook? No, I can't read Braille. "
It's the home team responsibility to provide security. Since the one got attacked is the away team, they decide to leave the match.
Would have been nice to add some subtitles
Can anyone who speaks Dutch translate what the announcers said during the incident in to English?
Since that day Nijhuis never whistled for a foul again 😅
The ref probably didn’t want to send Esteban off but the rules stated that he had too so I don’t get why he gets so much hate
So what happened? the whole team left the game? i don't get it?
An Ajax supporter(on drugs, I think) came on the field and attacked the AZ(team in blue) goalkeeper, who defended himself. The goalie then got a red card for violence, and the manager of AZ send the whole team off. It's a shame club football is often disrupted by violent supporters.
oh okay, that's what I thought happened, but couldn't understand the language. Thank you for your reply. and yes it really is sad the idea of violence and football. and the Ajax supporter kinda deserved it.
Gallan30: was it the goalie that got aa red card ? Cause I thought it was another player who didn't do anything and that's why they went crazy
Yeah the goalie got a red card for defending himself. Absolutely ridiculous in my opinion.
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Un allenatore che ha coraggio...un allenatore con le palle. Solo stima.
An Ajax fan attacked the AZ goalie, the goalie fought back and by the rules, the ref had to give him a red card for that, which if ofcourse ridiculous. The AZ coach was outraged with the decision of the ref so he stopped the match.
Is de wedstrijd nog opnieuw gespeeld? Of heeft ajax de 3 punten gekregen
Was volgens mij de beker en az won die met 0-3
Klopt ja
which team did win in the rematch
Good decision making of the referee. Kicking when someone is on the ground isn’t self defense anymore. It’s the same energy as the fan rushing to kick the goalkeeper. Self defense was done first. Attacking after which means red card.
So what happened to the man who attacked the goalie?
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