in my opinion this is the best possible interpretation of a portable console, clamshell-shaped. It combines portability with a large screen, you can house excellent hardware and an excellent battery because the space available is very good, the screen and controls are protected when the console is closed, it slips well into the pockets and the rectangular shape and compact size increase its portability. In the future, the retroid, if it will be successful and I hope so, will have to think about further reducing the thickness.
Nah they screwed this up, apparently the r1 and r2 are not easy to access because the screen is in the way, there was enough space on the face of the unit for the speakers but the left SO much blank space and stuck the speakers under facing away from the user, shipped with Android 11 when the Anbernic rg405m shipped with 12, and using sliders vs real analog sticks was a huge mistake as they could have fit them given this thing is already way way too thick. Combine all that with cheap plastics and a noisy fan and this isn't appealing in the slightest. RP3+ is vastly superior even though its D-Pad is garbage, and the rg405m is about perfect especially with its 4:3 screen and native gamecube / PS2 screen resolution.
@@TeamGun I have no doubts about what you are saying, it is not absolutely perfect and can be improved a lot, the anbernics are qualitatively another world, I just hope that anbernic produces a flip model similar to the retroid but with its proverbial build quality because for me the clamshell console are fabulous when they are well designed !!
Thanks ETA for the initial review! I am also a big fan of the clam shell design. Next video can you show how sturdy the clam shell is. For instance the 3ds was more sturdy than the 2ds xl. Look forward to more videos!
Don't mean to nitpick, but first game on PS2 emulation (11:14) is actually the cover for Kingdom Hearts 1. Really fond of your SBC and handheld reviews. You do a great job.
@@caleb7475 Yeah i mean most decent handhelds can do that nowadays some even even for less money. I just think because its a rare formfactor would have been nice to see something more powerful then their previous products and something that gives some advantages over similar devices.
I don't mind the lack of a second screen, there seems to be a fair amount of hardware in the base, though I wonder if they couldn't have at least put a trackpad there. The little slider analogs probably wouldn't be as favorable without the Hall sensors so at least that's a reasonable upgrade, but there's still the hope for a little more performance that's holding me back from a purchase. Once again I'll give it 3 months or so to see if they don't turn around and cough up a new models for 200 with a slightly better processor and all the improvements this has.
clamshell design is great, but any moving part introduces durability concerns down the road. I would be interested to see how easy it is to repair the hinge. The example that comes to mind is the 3DS - usually wears out significantly over just a few years, and is pretty challenging to replace for the typical user. Also, Retroid seems to be in a pattern of releasing a miniscule performance upgrade, followed by a big one. Kinda wish they would just hold off until they have a new chipset in their handheld. Active cooling is nice, but I don't think it allows us to do anything that the RP3+ can't already do just as well.
I never liked clamshell, it feels like an outdated design but it makes sense for a retro design. The only clamshell device I've owned is the Gameboy SP which I didn't like, the GBA was the best design for a handheld imo. Nintendo went back to a great design with the switch lite.
@@hia5235 Not sure what you'd been smoking yesterday but the SP is pants. Horrible uncomfortable form factor. The original GBA is by far the most comfortable retro handheld.
Excited to see your take on the Flip. It's really disappointing that mine still hasn't shipped yet even though I preordered within two minutes of the launch going live.
We need more clamshells, so pocketable. Pretty impressed by this unit. If it played PS2 solidly (i.e. met the performance of my phone), I'd throw my money at it.
I’m so glad you emulated Timesplitters, I still play it to this day , one of the hidden gems. Very few people know what game that is , absolute beast of a game
I didn't think I would regret buying the RP3+, but then they announced this... if it had a better chip I'd buy it but I have no need for 2 t618 handhelds
For anybody who's struggling with GameCube/PS2 games that run at 60 fps you can get the PAL versions of the games and get alot more leeway to work with at 50 fps. Even if frames do drop, it's not as noticeable as compared with the NTSC versions. You just have to experiment on the settings and which emulators because Dolphin has 4 different versions to work with.
This device isn't for me, but I'm happy to see manufacturers returning to clamshells. Maybe in a few years we can have something as powerful as a Steam Deck in this size and form factor. (edit: I know GPD is coming out with something - but it'll be bigger than this, so not pocketable, likely won't ship with SteamOS and won't have trackpads)
@@toondude78yeah no same. As a Linux device, it isn't great as it's too locked down and hard to make work with normal software. As a Portable Console, it's just about perfect, apart from the battery. Keep it with you in a hotel or on a road trip and you'll be happy. But taking it anywhere like a city for a day or anything it'll be hellish.
I was intrigued by these when they were announced, I'm still using the Retroid 2. I wouldn't mind upgrading to this design, knowing Retroid they'll have 2 new iterations of the Flip available before the end of the year 😅
Basically the one form factor where it didn't feel like i needed a screen protector and had no issue just shoving it in my pocket along with the wallet. Might look into it later just not sure what i would want to do with it yet. maybe as a ps1 only system for on the go. 🤔
As you may notice that the Retroid Pocket Flip and Retroid Pocket 3+ have the same features as the AYN Odin Pro, and yet I already have a AYN Odin the same amount of Retroid Pocket. Although Retroid Pocket and AYN have same companies with different stuff and it's fun for me to use! Android Games works fine with AYN Odin and Retroid Pocket. I can't tell why Retroid Pocket is similar to the AYN Odin. And with the same and different features to AYN Odin. Retroid Pocket 3+ was officially the clone of the AYN Odin Pro. And this Retroid Pocket Flip is the almost capable version of a AYN Odin Pro. I can't see how many times I've been looking for a Retroid Pocket Flip, which is the almost AYN Odin Pro's Alternative Models. Retroid Pocket is from That AYN Odin model, and I don't think it's weird, because everytime I'm testing AYN Odin Pro, I don't think AYN Odin Pro has a update for Retroid Pocket. I'm familiar with the stuff I already owned AYN Odin Pro but it's AYN Odin Base Version! I tested out with AYN Odin Base and it was a little deep, I think AYN Odin Pro Version is way better than the Base version and I figured out AYN Odin Pro did the awesome stuff. According to this AYN Odin Pro Alternate Models, this clamshell AYN Odin model is looking excellent! AYN Odin Pro, Pimax Portal and Steam Deck are the best! Those 3 handhelds can be powerful than GPD XD Plus and Powkiddy X18 (2019 Version) AYN Odin Pro is more powerful than Powkiddy X18 (2019 Version), Powkiddy X17, GPD XD and XD Plus! Since GPD XP is proving to be stronger than GPD XD. I believe when I'm able to look out for AYN Odin Pro being a brother to AYANEO Pocket Air, AYANEO Pocket Air is so similar to Pimax Portal And AYN Odin Pro too. Even Logitech G Cloud. Although, AYN Odin Pro, Logitech G Cloud, Pimax Portal and Razer Edge can be the popular of Next-Gen Handheld. While Steam Deck can be SUPER popular. So Steam Deck is actually the perfect handheld like PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X are the perfect home gaming console (Even Xbox Series S) What kind of Xbox Series S being a perfect home gaming console with digital only console! Even when Xbox Series S is a digital only console, you can't play Xbox Series S with a CD Drive, because it won't work. It's impossible to do so, because when you play a Xbox Game Disc on your Xbox Series S, it won't work. Because Xbox Series S is all digital! You can only play Xbox Series S games with a Digital Version. So, Xbox Series S is the Digital Device Version of Xbox Series X. Here's my most thoughts about Android Handhelds with GPD XP, AYN Odin Pro, Logitech G Cloud, Razer Edge, Pimax Portal and AYANEO Pocket Air... AYN Odin Pro was the most powerful handheld... So, AYN Odin Pro has chosen to do its own way of being itself of its own path to the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. And I can't even imagine if AYN Odin Pro's performance looks similar to the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X Performance. Logitech G Cloud is also the powerful handheld as superior as AYN Odin Pro is, it's very cool how both AYN Odin Pro and Logitech G Cloud can be powerful... But when I find out the difference performance between the AYN Odin Pro and Logitech G Cloud, it makes them more powerful than ever. So, Logitech G Cloud has the lack of performance while AYN Odin Pro has the amazing performance, but Logitech G Cloud is the strongest machine as well as AYN Odin Pro is. AYN Odin Pro is the strongest machine. I don't know about Pimax Portal, but Pimax Portal is yet another Next-Gen Android Handheld alongside with AYN Odin Pro and Logitech G Cloud being similar and AYANEO Pocket Air is coming too. Pimax Portal and AYANEO Pocket Air are both coming, although... Razer Edge is a easy fit. I have to test out Android Games on AYN Odin, GPD XP and Logitech G Cloud and see that it doesn't really have issues playing it on AYN Odin Pro, GPD XP Plus or even Logitech G Cloud. So I have to remind myself that it won't do any laggy for an Android Handheld with AYN Odin Pro, GPD XP Plus, Logitech G Cloud, Pimax Portal and/or even AYANEO Pocket Air. Also, I know you told me that I am wrong about everything I said, so... My thoughts aren't true. So, my other thought that I said isn't even true either. So, tell me that I'm wrong.
Nearly 2 years later and I STILL LUV my Powkiddy V90. I play it more than my OG RG350. They COULD have included actual analogue sticks with R3 and L3 had they just done what Anbernic does, have a square cut out in the motherboard and screw holes for the analogue sticks, that is an additional reason I will not be purchasing the Flip. ALL that room and they couldn't include an ABC, XYZ face button configuration (closes eyes, raises chin, folds arms and shakes head back and forth in disappointment) Great Review! It's a great device, sure, but no hardware upgrades really, I'm looking forward to the RP4+, the + will give a NICE performance boost over the upcoming RP4. =D
@@navjotsandhu7245 Right, RIGHT! Because clearly... (flourishes hands over device) There's NO space AT ALL. When you look at the device... do you see ANY room for even a single extra button... let alone 2 additional buttons? I sure don't! The device is COMPLETELY filled up with stuff and things. I don't even know HOW they managed, outside of witchcraft, to CRAM ALL those buttons, TWO analogue sticks or EVEN a directional pad in such an insignificantly TINY TINY place..... man. =P
Great video. Many thanks from France. In your next one about this machine, it would be great to compare it with the old gpd xd and see how this machine works if you dock it.
I remember getting the Retroid Pocket 2 and absolutely hating the d-pad and the analog sticks. The USB-C port also wouldn't charge from a Turbo charger.
Excited to get mine! Thanks for getting this out quickly. I've been looking for feedback on the sliders and from what I'm seeing they're very similar to the 3DS which means I'll be fine. I'm curious to see which I prefer, this or the 405m.
rg405m is much better. They screwed this up, apparently the r1 and r2 are not easy to access because the screen is in the way, there was enough space on the face of the unit for the speakers but the left SO much blank space and stuck the speakers under facing away from the user, shipped with Android 11 when the Anbernic rg405m shipped with 12, and using sliders vs real analog sticks was a huge mistake as they could have fit them given this thing is already way way too thick. Combine all that with cheap plastics and a noisy fan and this isn't appealing in the slightest. RP3+ is vastly superior even though its D-Pad is garbage, and the rg405m is about perfect especially with its 4:3 screen and native gamecube / PS2 screen resolution.
I love clamshell devices! Even though I have an RP2+ I usually have my powkiddy v90 in my pocket just cause its so resilient when im on the go. Just ordered the flip today and excited to be using that as my daily driver soon.
I kinda wish there was a tiny little screen in that empty space on the bottom half. It could show diagnostics or play music, and would fix a lot of the emulation issues with DS/3DS
Clamshell is the best design for smaller handhelds, because it is absolutely pocketable and portable. I wish it had better hardware though. The T760 would have been much better, or something with a mali G610.
Better then I thought that it would be but that SOC just looks like a very temporary stopgap, so would expect to see a superseded model with something like an RK3588S soon.
Nice looking design and great video. I already have the RP3+ so I don't have an incentive now to get this, but the active cooling of this one is definitely going to make my long gaming sessions more fun in the long run.
I'm curious as to how well this would be as a portable video game system when plugged into a TV. Of course can play using the screen, but I would like to see it hooked up to a TV and some controllers connected. Not the best to try and lug many of the game consoles around but if I could play this on the go and at home would be cool.
Patience pays, that's why I think I'll wait for the next upgrade since it's a clamshell design and being able to play 3DS titles would be perfect. My suggestion would be a small screen in the middle between the controls if feasible. Other than that it's nearly the perfect clamshell handheld.
I think we all wish for something like a flip duo to play ds/3ds games but they are not a android / phone company. To make the software for an android device with two screens is not that easy, I think. The only phone with two real screens that I know is the Surface duo. Maybe they can make a Linux device with two screens
@@wordsmith451 Yeah, I agree. Besides, such devices will never offer the smooth experience that actual 3DS offers. That's why I got mine N3ds XL for a decent price.
@Веско Динев the 3DS can play DS, and below games. When I'm going to spend a similar amount of money I'd rather have something that can do more and lot of cheaper (in this case). Plus in my head I get to take a dump at nintendo for emulating games.
That built in mapper, just love those kinds of extra functionalities..... But for a nearsighted person like me, the display at 4.7" seems a bit small for me.....
They should have utilized the extra face room for a 6-button setup for N64/Genesis/Saturn/Arcade. And the fact that the Start and Select buttons are on the bottom instead of in the middle like a SNES controller, when there's all that wasted space in the middle is insane.
I'm getting the pocket flip over the 3+ because the select and start button are in good spots, the pad placements are more comfortable, and i loved my 3ds so I'll get this just experience that again.
Really want one but I'm going to wait for the plus version that's sure to come soon. I also don't really like the joystick placement, I'd personally prefer them at the top. I do appreciate this video showing it off.
Great video, thanks! I ordered my watermelon even while the ltd red edition was still available and have no regrets (other than how long I'm having to wait for it to reach me!)
I just wish they would have gone with the 3ds design with a bottom screen. We already have a few clamshell's from different companies but none of them have really experimented with that design
It looks great, I love the design, but I have a few reasons for not wanting to get this. I have a Retroid Pocket 2+ which plays all that I want to play accurately, since Gamecube/PS2 is a no go. And to get to those, I have a Steam Deck. But I love the look, and if I didn't have the RP 2+ I'd definitely be investing in one of these.
When you're done with your full review, send the device to the hydraulic press channel. Inquiring minds need to know how much pressure it will take to break that hinge!
Love the detail. I could have just listened to this instead of watching, in a good way. Only suggestion I got is a decibel meter and throw something common beside it, like a steam deck, for comparison
Plus I already have a AYN Odin, I'm on base version instead of Pro while Most of them have a Pro, so I'll be sticking with AYN Odin for this one. This device is actually the same machine as AYN Odin Pro.
my problem with this is that the hinge is so ugly looking its like they designed the whole unit and then at the end realized they forgot the hinge so they added it as an afterthought also that type of clear plastic reminds of the cheap clear plastics used in the 90s hard pass for me which really sucks because i was really excited about this
I don't know why people keep saying that Call of Duty Mobile is not controller supported, yes it is I have played it with a controller multiple times before.
Nice, but I have long fingers and the smaller design hurts my hands/fingers. If they would incorporate the hall effect joysticks, active cooling and the analogs trigger to the Retroid Pocket 3+ it would be the perfect design for me. Of course, they'd have to not carry over the rocker type sticks.
Thanks ETA, great review. I love that thing, it looks great. I have an rp3+ but dat clamshell. I wonder about the analog sticks, buttons, and dpad leaving residue and friction rub on the screen when folded (a la OG 3DS). Is the screen recessed in the top lid enough to circumvent this? Thanks again for the review!
Cool. I hope they will ship mine faster than they shipped my rp3+. Took like 2 months. I preordered my watermelon the first day pre order was available
Honestly I hope we get a pocket flip plus or a more powerful one this year One that could run GameCube and ps2 better would be amazing with this compact design
To be honest, I think the best way to play DS and 3DS games is with their actual consoles. If you're going to buy a handheld just to run these Dual Screen games, might as well just buy a used 3DS or something.
Since the release of the retorid pocket 2, I have loved your series of consoles, they are my favorites, although I don't have any, they are certainly excellent for emulation.
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Clamshell is the most pocket friendly format. I'm glad to see it's resurgence.
This. I'm hoping to see it with a keyboard from the big manufacturers (Valve, etc).
Yea I’m waiting for a clamshell pc
@@Febald You aren't GPD. That's clickbait...
Absolutely! I wish more powerfully handhelds would come out let alone clamshell
@@thibaldus3if valve did a redo of the deck with a clamshell design I would 100% get it. Despite having a deck already.
in my opinion this is the best possible interpretation of a portable console, clamshell-shaped. It combines portability with a large screen, you can house excellent hardware and an excellent battery because the space available is very good, the screen and controls are protected when the console is closed, it slips well into the pockets and the rectangular shape and compact size increase its portability. In the future, the retroid, if it will be successful and I hope so, will have to think about further reducing the thickness.
All very good points
Nah they screwed this up, apparently the r1 and r2 are not easy to access because the screen is in the way, there was enough space on the face of the unit for the speakers but the left SO much blank space and stuck the speakers under facing away from the user, shipped with Android 11 when the Anbernic rg405m shipped with 12, and using sliders vs real analog sticks was a huge mistake as they could have fit them given this thing is already way way too thick. Combine all that with cheap plastics and a noisy fan and this isn't appealing in the slightest. RP3+ is vastly superior even though its D-Pad is garbage, and the rg405m is about perfect especially with its 4:3 screen and native gamecube / PS2 screen resolution.
@@TeamGun I have no doubts about what you are saying, it is not absolutely perfect and can be improved a lot, the anbernics are qualitatively another world, I just hope that anbernic produces a flip model similar to the retroid but with its proverbial build quality because for me the clamshell console are fabulous when they are well designed !!
@@franxy81 well, put.
Thanks ETA for the initial review! I am also a big fan of the clam shell design. Next video can you show how sturdy the clam shell is. For instance the 3ds was more sturdy than the 2ds xl. Look forward to more videos!
Don't mean to nitpick, but first game on PS2 emulation (11:14) is actually the cover for Kingdom Hearts 1.
Really fond of your SBC and handheld reviews. You do a great job.
The design is so good I can’t wait to get my hands on one of these !!
Nice looking design, the hardware looks solid, I just wish it had a better CPU, T618 just doesn't really cut it anymore.
@@caleb7475 GameCube minimum
@@caleb7475ameCube/PS2 minimum.
@@caleb7475 Yeah i mean most decent handhelds can do that nowadays some even even for less money. I just think because its a rare formfactor would have been nice to see something more powerful then their previous products and something that gives some advantages over similar devices.
@@caleb7475 you can get that for a lot less money these days.
@@caleb7475 you can buy any other device for under $100 that does the same thing
I don't mind the lack of a second screen, there seems to be a fair amount of hardware in the base, though I wonder if they couldn't have at least put a trackpad there. The little slider analogs probably wouldn't be as favorable without the Hall sensors so at least that's a reasonable upgrade, but there's still the hope for a little more performance that's holding me back from a purchase. Once again I'll give it 3 months or so to see if they don't turn around and cough up a new models for 200 with a slightly better processor and all the improvements this has.
clamshell design is great, but any moving part introduces durability concerns down the road. I would be interested to see how easy it is to repair the hinge. The example that comes to mind is the 3DS - usually wears out significantly over just a few years, and is pretty challenging to replace for the typical user.
Also, Retroid seems to be in a pattern of releasing a miniscule performance upgrade, followed by a big one. Kinda wish they would just hold off until they have a new chipset in their handheld. Active cooling is nice, but I don't think it allows us to do anything that the RP3+ can't already do just as well.
active cooling will keep the device cooler in your hands , so that's another plus .
I never liked clamshell, it feels like an outdated design but it makes sense for a retro design. The only clamshell device I've owned is the Gameboy SP which I didn't like, the GBA was the best design for a handheld imo. Nintendo went back to a great design with the switch lite.
@@Macky4941 I dont agree at all lol.
Everyone knows the SP was the best + Nintendo had huge success with DS
@@hia5235 SP was a pain in the ass to use for those with big hands. Seriously, I'd be cramping after 2 hours, OG GBA was easily the best form factor.
@@hia5235 Not sure what you'd been smoking yesterday but the SP is pants. Horrible uncomfortable form factor. The original GBA is by far the most comfortable retro handheld.
Can’t wait for the Flip+ to be announced in a few weeks!
Honestly that’s why I’m holding out lol.
The Flip 7 is being developed in time for Xmas but there’ll be a few models before that.
Taki hasn’t made his one yet.
Oh my God finally. I just got my shipping notification today and was like super thirsty to watch a video and no one had anything. Thank you
Surprisingly, I've been waiting for this video. Watched it 1 minute after you posted it.
I like it mostly the form factor, but I'm grateful with RP3+. Great video as always❤
Excited to see your take on the Flip. It's really disappointing that mine still hasn't shipped yet even though I preordered within two minutes of the launch going live.
same here mate
Ditto
We need more clamshells, so pocketable. Pretty impressed by this unit. If it played PS2 solidly (i.e. met the performance of my phone), I'd throw my money at it.
Same here, I'm just waiting for a decently sized and portable handheld that can play PS2 or atleast the wii
My wife misses her GBA SP I'll have to get her one of these for Christmas.
jak and daxter on a ds i have waited for years
I’m so glad you emulated Timesplitters, I still play it to this day , one of the hidden gems. Very few people know what game that is , absolute beast of a game
It was literally a huge game at the time, everyone knows what Time Splitters is lmfao
@@TeamGun oh you’re everyone ?
@@jovanimedina1089 You clearly are a 2000's baby 🤣
@@TeamGun 1992 , but we can kiss if you want
@@jovanimedina1089 I built my first PC 2 years after you were born, move along kiddo.
I didn't think I would regret buying the RP3+, but then they announced this... if it had a better chip I'd buy it but I have no need for 2 t618 handhelds
Great review! Like the form factor here. I'm one that hasn't upgraded my RP2 to the RP3+ as of yet. The flip may be the one worth upgrading to.
For anybody who's struggling with GameCube/PS2 games that run at 60 fps you can get the PAL versions of the games and get alot more leeway to work with at 50 fps. Even if frames do drop, it's not as noticeable as compared with the NTSC versions. You just have to experiment on the settings and which emulators because Dolphin has 4 different versions to work with.
This device isn't for me, but I'm happy to see manufacturers returning to clamshells.
Maybe in a few years we can have something as powerful as a Steam Deck in this size and form factor.
(edit: I know GPD is coming out with something - but it'll be bigger than this, so not pocketable, likely won't ship with SteamOS and won't have trackpads)
Felt this. I feel as a Deck owner it's closest to the "All in one" system I'm looking for but it just isn't QUITE there yet.
@@toondude78yeah no same. As a Linux device, it isn't great as it's too locked down and hard to make work with normal software. As a Portable Console, it's just about perfect, apart from the battery. Keep it with you in a hotel or on a road trip and you'll be happy. But taking it anywhere like a city for a day or anything it'll be hellish.
I love my RG353M Anbernic handheld, but this looks freaking awesome. I think I'm going to have to purchase this. The clamshell design is killer.
The analog triggers are what are making me think about getting one
I would love it if they move the analog sticks a little more to the side, add another screen and make a console that can emulate the DS games!
Bought one of these as soon as I saw it. Impatiently waiting for it to arrive!
I was intrigued by these when they were announced, I'm still using the Retroid 2. I wouldn't mind upgrading to this design, knowing Retroid they'll have 2 new iterations of the Flip available before the end of the year 😅
It's amazing how they actually placed the start and select buttons in a not so stupid location! Guess they learned their lesson? 🤔 🤷♂️
That was the only reason i didnt but a 3+.
@@ryecatcher25 it's a amazing console tho 👌
Really wish a company would pursue a 2-screen DS clone, just don't know much about how Android can handle two screens. Linux on ARM an option though
form factor is dope, I'd love to see something of this caliber in an altoids can. miss the mintypi days lol
God I want this...whole lot of great games from previous consoles that I love playing
The embodiment of the sentiment "meh" in physical form
Love the form factor. Will pick something like this up when they can run GC and Wii.
Basically the one form factor where it didn't feel like i needed a screen protector and had no issue just shoving it in my pocket along with the wallet. Might look into it later just not sure what i would want to do with it yet. maybe as a ps1 only system for on the go. 🤔
As you may notice that the Retroid Pocket Flip and Retroid Pocket 3+ have the same features as the AYN Odin Pro, and yet I already have a AYN Odin the same amount of Retroid Pocket.
Although Retroid Pocket and AYN have same companies with different stuff and it's fun for me to use! Android Games works fine with AYN Odin and Retroid Pocket. I can't tell why Retroid Pocket is similar to the AYN Odin.
And with the same and different features to AYN Odin.
Retroid Pocket 3+ was officially the clone of the AYN Odin Pro.
And this Retroid Pocket Flip is the almost capable version of a AYN Odin Pro.
I can't see how many times I've been looking for a Retroid Pocket Flip, which is the almost AYN Odin Pro's Alternative Models.
Retroid Pocket is from That AYN Odin model, and I don't think it's weird, because everytime I'm testing AYN Odin Pro, I don't think AYN Odin Pro has a update for Retroid Pocket.
I'm familiar with the stuff I already owned AYN Odin Pro but it's AYN Odin Base Version! I tested out with AYN Odin Base and it was a little deep, I think AYN Odin Pro Version is way better than the Base version and I figured out AYN Odin Pro did the awesome stuff.
According to this AYN Odin Pro Alternate Models, this clamshell AYN Odin model is looking excellent!
AYN Odin Pro, Pimax Portal and Steam Deck are the best! Those 3 handhelds can be powerful than GPD XD Plus and Powkiddy X18 (2019 Version)
AYN Odin Pro is more powerful than Powkiddy X18 (2019 Version), Powkiddy X17, GPD XD and XD Plus! Since GPD XP is proving to be stronger than GPD XD.
I believe when I'm able to look out for AYN Odin Pro being a brother to AYANEO Pocket Air, AYANEO Pocket Air is so similar to Pimax Portal And AYN Odin Pro too. Even Logitech G Cloud.
Although, AYN Odin Pro, Logitech G Cloud, Pimax Portal and Razer Edge can be the popular of Next-Gen Handheld.
While Steam Deck can be SUPER popular. So Steam Deck is actually the perfect handheld like PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X are the perfect home gaming console (Even Xbox Series S)
What kind of Xbox Series S being a perfect home gaming console with digital only console! Even when Xbox Series S is a digital only console, you can't play Xbox Series S with a CD Drive, because it won't work. It's impossible to do so, because when you play a Xbox Game Disc on your Xbox Series S, it won't work. Because Xbox Series S is all digital! You can only play Xbox Series S games with a Digital Version. So, Xbox Series S is the Digital Device Version of Xbox Series X.
Here's my most thoughts about Android Handhelds with GPD XP, AYN Odin Pro, Logitech G Cloud, Razer Edge, Pimax Portal and AYANEO Pocket Air...
AYN Odin Pro was the most powerful handheld... So, AYN Odin Pro has chosen to do its own way of being itself of its own path to the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X. And I can't even imagine if AYN Odin Pro's performance looks similar to the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X Performance.
Logitech G Cloud is also the powerful handheld as superior as AYN Odin Pro is, it's very cool how both AYN Odin Pro and Logitech G Cloud can be powerful... But when I find out the difference performance between the AYN Odin Pro and Logitech G Cloud, it makes them more powerful than ever. So, Logitech G Cloud has the lack of performance while AYN Odin Pro has the amazing performance, but Logitech G Cloud is the strongest machine as well as AYN Odin Pro is.
AYN Odin Pro is the strongest machine.
I don't know about Pimax Portal, but Pimax Portal is yet another Next-Gen Android Handheld alongside with AYN Odin Pro and Logitech G Cloud being similar and AYANEO Pocket Air is coming too.
Pimax Portal and AYANEO Pocket Air are both coming, although... Razer Edge is a easy fit.
I have to test out Android Games on AYN Odin, GPD XP and Logitech G Cloud and see that it doesn't really have issues playing it on AYN Odin Pro, GPD XP Plus or even Logitech G Cloud. So I have to remind myself that it won't do any laggy for an Android Handheld with AYN Odin Pro, GPD XP Plus, Logitech G Cloud, Pimax Portal and/or even AYANEO Pocket Air.
Also, I know you told me that I am wrong about everything I said, so... My thoughts aren't true. So, my other thought that I said isn't even true either. So, tell me that I'm wrong.
I never would have thought that the handheld market would be ramping up. Very exciting times
Dang ETA I cant believe you already got yours. I preordered at midnight when they first dropped and I still haven’t received it.
Loved it, ordered the same color, can't wait to get a hand on
This makes me really really want a high powered dual screen android handheld
This thing looks like a beast.
Looks like beast, performs like a field mouse.
Nearly 2 years later and I STILL LUV my Powkiddy V90. I play it more than my OG RG350.
They COULD have included actual analogue sticks with R3 and L3 had they just done what Anbernic does, have a square cut out in the motherboard and screw holes for the analogue sticks, that is an additional reason I will not be purchasing the Flip. ALL that room and they couldn't include an ABC, XYZ face button configuration (closes eyes, raises chin, folds arms and shakes head back and forth in disappointment)
Great Review! It's a great device, sure, but no hardware upgrades really, I'm looking forward to the RP4+, the + will give a NICE performance boost over the upcoming RP4. =D
There wouldn't be space for the right analog stick man
@@navjotsandhu7245 Right, RIGHT! Because clearly... (flourishes hands over device) There's NO space AT ALL. When you look at the device... do you see ANY room for even a single extra button... let alone 2 additional buttons? I sure don't! The device is COMPLETELY filled up with stuff and things. I don't even know HOW they managed, outside of witchcraft, to CRAM ALL those buttons, TWO analogue sticks or EVEN a directional pad in such an insignificantly TINY TINY place..... man. =P
@@navjotsandhu7245 BTW, nice brand new channel with NO content created strictly for trolling LOL =P
Great video. Many thanks from France. In your next one about this machine, it would be great to compare it with the old gpd xd and see how this machine works if you dock it.
I wish there was a 6 button handheld layout. So much easier for fighting games and N64
I remember getting the Retroid Pocket 2 and absolutely hating the d-pad and the analog sticks. The USB-C port also wouldn't charge from a Turbo charger.
Waiting for mine ❤ Great Video Eta.
Excited to get mine! Thanks for getting this out quickly. I've been looking for feedback on the sliders and from what I'm seeing they're very similar to the 3DS which means I'll be fine. I'm curious to see which I prefer, this or the 405m.
rg405m is much better. They screwed this up, apparently the r1 and r2 are not easy to access because the screen is in the way, there was enough space on the face of the unit for the speakers but the left SO much blank space and stuck the speakers under facing away from the user, shipped with Android 11 when the Anbernic rg405m shipped with 12, and using sliders vs real analog sticks was a huge mistake as they could have fit them given this thing is already way way too thick. Combine all that with cheap plastics and a noisy fan and this isn't appealing in the slightest. RP3+ is vastly superior even though its D-Pad is garbage, and the rg405m is about perfect especially with its 4:3 screen and native gamecube / PS2 screen resolution.
I love clamshell devices! Even though I have an RP2+ I usually have my powkiddy v90 in my pocket just cause its so resilient when im on the go. Just ordered the flip today and excited to be using that as my daily driver soon.
I kinda wish there was a tiny little screen in that empty space on the bottom half. It could show diagnostics or play music, and would fix a lot of the emulation issues with DS/3DS
Clamshell is the best design for smaller handhelds, because it is absolutely pocketable and portable.
I wish it had better hardware though. The T760 would have been much better, or something with a mali G610.
Better then I thought that it would be but that SOC just looks like a very temporary stopgap, so would expect to see a superseded model with something like an RK3588S soon.
Nice looking design and great video.
I already have the RP3+ so I don't have an incentive now to get this, but the active cooling of this one is definitely going to make my long gaming sessions more fun in the long run.
Great video. Can't wait to get mine.
I'm curious as to how well this would be as a portable video game system when plugged into a TV. Of course can play using the screen, but I would like to see it hooked up to a TV and some controllers connected. Not the best to try and lug many of the game consoles around but if I could play this on the go and at home would be cool.
This is really nice, I'm considering picking one up next week now lol.
Patience pays, that's why I think I'll wait for the next upgrade since it's a clamshell design and being able to play 3DS titles would be perfect. My suggestion would be a small screen in the middle between the controls if feasible. Other than that it's nearly the perfect clamshell handheld.
I completely agree. Here's hoping a Flip Duo comes out with much beefier hardware.
I think we all wish for something like a flip duo to play ds/3ds games but they are not a android / phone company. To make the software for an android device with two screens is not that easy, I think. The only phone with two real screens that I know is the Surface duo.
Maybe they can make a Linux device with two screens
It's not feasible. Buy a 3DS. It's not going to happen. You'll spend the same on a 3DS. Buy a 3DS. BUY A 3DS.
@@wordsmith451 Yeah, I agree. Besides, such devices will never offer the smooth experience that actual 3DS offers. That's why I got mine N3ds XL for a decent price.
@Веско Динев the 3DS can play DS, and below games. When I'm going to spend a similar amount of money I'd rather have something that can do more and lot of cheaper (in this case). Plus in my head I get to take a dump at nintendo for emulating games.
Man, slightly better PS2 performance and I'd be all over it
That built in mapper, just love those kinds of extra functionalities..... But for a nearsighted person like me, the display at 4.7" seems a bit small for me.....
Frick Samsung z flip, me and the Bois gonna have fun on the retroid pocket flip 😎
Almost good enough specs wise. If you could run GC and PS2 without compromises at full speed then it'd be solid.
Which handheld can run gc and ps2/3??? Let me know thx
@@bob_WRLD Steam Deck
Just preorders can’t wait
They should have utilized the extra face room for a 6-button setup for N64/Genesis/Saturn/Arcade.
And the fact that the Start and Select buttons are on the bottom instead of in the middle like a SNES controller, when there's all that wasted space in the middle is insane.
it’s a crime there isn’t a handheld PC with this exact design (except the triggers, don’t look like they’d be comfortable in your pocket)
I'm getting the pocket flip over the 3+ because the select and start button are in good spots, the pad placements are more comfortable, and i loved my 3ds so I'll get this just experience that again.
This design is so cool!
I really love clamshell portables.
I would love an X86 portable like that.
Really want one but I'm going to wait for the plus version that's sure to come soon. I also don't really like the joystick placement, I'd personally prefer them at the top. I do appreciate this video showing it off.
Great video, thanks! I ordered my watermelon even while the ltd red edition was still available and have no regrets (other than how long I'm having to wait for it to reach me!)
I had really bad experience with hinges on translucent plastic before, hopefully the plastic quality on this will be better.
Cool Idea, wish it had a second screen
We really need an emulation device specially designed to support ds style games
nice channel! nice reviews! greetings from Mexico!
pd: can you do a video about Xemu on Handhelds? I’ve never see it before
I just wish they would have gone with the 3ds design with a bottom screen. We already have a few clamshell's from different companies but none of them have really experimented with that design
I’d love to see 3DS emulation if possible, playing Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate would be super cool if possible
Yeah... there's a reason ETA showed DS and not 3DS.
5:50 is the ideal design for a dual-screen setup. I wish Retroid or someone would work on it. 😅
Can’t wait for mine! It hasn’t shipped yet. Team water melon
I really love the look of it
It looks great, I love the design, but I have a few reasons for not wanting to get this. I have a Retroid Pocket 2+ which plays all that I want to play accurately, since Gamecube/PS2 is a no go. And to get to those, I have a Steam Deck. But I love the look, and if I didn't have the RP 2+ I'd definitely be investing in one of these.
Hi! What about installing retro games? Like, ps1, ps2, gameboy, etc. Is it manual like on a regular phone, or are there pre-installed games?
I already have a AYN Odin, I've been waiting for the latest Android games to come out on the AYN Odin.
Man, I'd love this one, but I'll wait for the Flip+ to get reliable GC and PS2, the form factor is begging for these consoles
When you're done with your full review, send the device to the hydraulic press channel. Inquiring minds need to know how much pressure it will take to break that hinge!
WOW, you tried my favorite game, carx drift! i think i gotta this now!!!
Love the detail. I could have just listened to this instead of watching, in a good way. Only suggestion I got is a decibel meter and throw something common beside it, like a steam deck, for comparison
And then compare the titanic gaming performance of the Steam Deck to this little plastic toy.
That unisoc chip is like version of poor man's for android
Plus I already have a AYN Odin, I'm on base version instead of Pro while Most of them have a Pro, so I'll be sticking with AYN Odin for this one. This device is actually the same machine as AYN Odin Pro.
Looks cool. I already own a 3+ though. I would buy it if it had a spec bump, which knowing Retroid, that's going to happen in a few months.
my problem with this is that the hinge is so ugly looking
its like they designed the whole unit and then at the end realized they forgot the hinge
so they added it as an afterthought
also that type of clear plastic reminds of the cheap clear plastics used in the 90s hard pass for me
which really sucks because i was really excited about this
So those are slider style analog sticks not rocker style. Rocker style are the regular ones like on the switch.
luckyyyyy lol
im starting to think my sport red version that i ordered is just a dream
This thing is really nice I think I gotta get one
i wanna know how fast it charges from 0-100%. Also would have loved seeing some cloud gaming not that it's a deal breaker. Anyway, great video!
I am planning to use it mainly for cloud gaming! Unlikely PS2 emulation software is going to get to a point where GT4 runs will on this chip.
I also like the 2DS single piece form. It has potential for lots of io. This form also looks nice.
I don't know why people keep saying that Call of Duty Mobile is not controller supported, yes it is I have played it with a controller multiple times before.
Dang wish the watermelon was a darker red. Still the best looking color imo
they announced this product the week after I purchased a RP3+ and I honestly would love to have bought this instead. XD
Nice, but I have long fingers and the smaller design hurts my hands/fingers. If they would incorporate the hall effect joysticks, active cooling and the analogs trigger to the Retroid Pocket 3+ it would be the perfect design for me. Of course, they'd have to not carry over the rocker type sticks.
Thanks ETA, great review. I love that thing, it looks great. I have an rp3+ but dat clamshell. I wonder about the analog sticks, buttons, and dpad leaving residue and friction rub on the screen when folded (a la OG 3DS). Is the screen recessed in the top lid enough to circumvent this? Thanks again for the review!
Cool. I hope they will ship mine faster than they shipped my rp3+. Took like 2 months. I preordered my watermelon the first day pre order was available
Honestly I hope we get a pocket flip plus or a more powerful one this year
One that could run GameCube and ps2 better would be amazing with this compact design
Hall effect sliders? Crazy time to be alive!
To be honest, I think the best way to play DS and 3DS games is with their actual consoles. If you're going to buy a handheld just to run these Dual Screen games, might as well just buy a used 3DS or something.
This toy can't do 3DS.
Retroid : upgrades people upgrades !!!!
I think I've just discovered an exciting new world...!
Since the release of the retorid pocket 2, I have loved your series of consoles, they are my favorites, although I don't have any, they are certainly excellent for emulation.
I'm patiently waiting for the RP4. NO way they added that cooling solution for the 3+ which doesn't need it.