I was the postie who delivered to Gurners Lane alongside 440 Collins St Melbourne. Expert comments said no good in the wet, so I didn't back him in the Caulfield Cup. Expert comments said won't get 2 miles - you know how it goes.....
I came to Australia in 1982 when I was 8. My Australian Nan sent me to school with a horse from a sweep and said if it won I could keep the money. It was Gurners Lane. I was in disbelief as it's name started entering the radio call toward the end of the race. At the time I had no idea it had pipped one of the greats in Kingston Town. It is certainly an enduring memory of my early days in Aistralia. Watching the re-run having seen 35 cups since it displayed that turn of foot so valuable in a cup win, really flashing home in that last 200.
Miracle went too early and The King was carrying the grandstand. His best distance was from 2,000 to 2,400 metres. One of the bravest efforts you will ever see. Watch Mick Dittman's whipping action on Gurners Lane. Imagine him doing that with today's whip laws. Gave it the dream run along the rails.
NUS01 - Wasn’t the first time he’d done it either. That’s where his name “The Enforcer” came from. And why T.J. Smith made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. He would take out Whoever was on his outside “to get clear racing room” AT WHATEVER COST to give his Mount “Every possible chance”. And if received “A Holiday” for it, so be it, it was taken care of in a Financial Sense, as long as he got the Horse to the Post first, that’s all that mattered.
@@filipina5953 Smith never trained Gurners Lane!! Geoff Murphy was his trainer. Are you saying TJ Smith would’ve destroyed the chances of his own HORSE??😆😆
@@Writeowl Not sure what you mean by your comment of “Destroying his own horses’s chances”, but was saying that - when the money was “On” a TJ charge, Dittman would get it to the line first, no matter what it took to get it there, and worry about the consequences later. And Yes, well aware of who Gurner’s Lane trainer was. 😊😊
Malcolm Johnston was my Jockey idol but I believe his biggest mistake wasn't going early but more from taking the king 5 deep and leaving himself no choice than to go early once the leaders dropped off. He needed something to go with him and take him into the race, the irony of it was Kingston town was on the fence and Gurners Lane eventually took the run he would have got if he stayed there
What you have submitted here is very interesting. Do keep in mind that KT was going up against top quality opposition, not like winx who's career was what I call ' well managed'. KT also had the ability to carry injury. However, I do agree that this race wasn't Malcolm Johnstons best.
Kingston Town should have won this. But, not taking anything away from Gurners Lane. He was a top class stayer and it took a horse of his calibre to knock off the king at the post( however, it was a tactical error by Malcolm Johnson that partly contributed to Kingston Town running second). I am a big fan of Kingston Town. He was, and still is, my favourite racehorse. He was able to compete at the top carrying injury( so did Manikato) and was still beating quality opposition. Great horses beat the best. They don't dodge the contest. However, very graciously, I give full credit to Gurners Lane.
Mark Norris - Finally a True Expert who calls it How it Happened. you a ⭐️ my Friend. No Jockey on the Planet could hav3 beaten “The Enforcer” that 1982 Day. Best I’ve ever seen. That’s why T.J. wanted him. 2 of the Great Turf Legends with the other being one x J.B. Cummings. 🏆🏆🏆
The worst ride you will ever see in your life. Mal was taking the fur off the Champ before he even got to the clock tower. By the time he saw Gurners Lane go past on the inside it was too late.
Actually I thought Darren Beadman's ride on Lonhro in his last start was the absolute worst ride I've ever seen. About a hundred times worse than Johnston's ride here. Johnston's ride was not the best judged ride in hindsight (sitting in the stands seeing the other horses Johnston couldn't have seen), but he was trying to win the race.
@@stevenbright9823 I don't know man. Johnston at least put him in the picture. He just wasn't good enough on the day. Beadman didn't put Lonhro in the picture at all, didn't give him any chance. I suppose we all have different views, so I respect yours. All the best.
Kingston town was the real winner that day he carried the grandstand in weight and of course Kingston town carried a jockey that should have known better. Good ride Mick Dittman
One of the greatest tragedies on an Australian racecourse that Kingston Town didn't win the 1982 Melbourne Cup. To secure victory Gurners Lane knocked over both Port Carling and Wellington Road. In Britain the stewards would have taken the race from him. And yes i backed the King.
Malcolm johnston still to this day wont accept that he slaughtered Kingston town in this race ,maintaining that "I rode him the same way I did in every other race and most of the time we won " Yes Mal but most of those races were 2000m - 2400m weght for age or set weight races, this was a 3200m handicap in which The King had top weight of, from memory 61kg, and there is no doubt that a better thought out and executed ride sees him win. If you watch a replay of the Sydney cup Kingstown won as a 3yo where he made three or four runs changing position throughout the race and this replay you're kind of left wondering did malcolm think he was riding a machine or did he just not have any idea how to ride 2 mile races. What really p's me off is that Kingston town had 3 starts at 3200m for 1 win and 1 2nd and all the so called experts say he couldn't stay the 2 miles.His other run when unplaced in the 1981 Melb.cup is still to me one of the dark mysteries of racing. Most people knew had "trained off" and should never had even started. He jumped out of the gates, was jagged back into second last place and and cantered around with his head on his chest and for the whole race and was never asked to compete at any stage. In other words he ran "Dead" Why? Was it because the VRC didn't want him scratched because he was such a crowd puller?... was it because of all of the money invested on caulfield cup- melb cup doubles markets? None of these questions were ever asked or answered...The only explaination offered by the stable was that his tendon injury had flared up again. Very sus!
@@stevenbright7399 on what are you relying on to make that assertion it must be something other than their respective race records. I get it you are channeling from elsewhere get your hand off it.
Kingston town is the complete race horse ever along with tulloch wins from 1200m to 3200m if u think she is better you are clueless and only started following racing 5yrs ago she is great no doubting her but could you imagine the king not having leg injuries.
@@stevenbright7399 firstly I was at Rosehill the day an ordinary horse named More Mink went within a whisker of beating the King so I haven't just followed racing for five years. As great as he was he did put in a few ordinary efforts particularly in Melbourne. You can blame sore legs but that's part of racing. It's been 4 years since Winx has put in a poor performance. Her time form rating race record and the opinion of racing people all support she is better than the King. To label me an idiot and clueless shows your level of class.
challenging for the lead at the 500 carrying 58.5kg ?..criminal,the King was robbed by his own team unfortunately,then smith had the audacity to keep running him when he was a finished horse '83-84 very sad ending to a mighty horse ,Smith should of been jailed for what he did the horse after he got injured the 1st time
I HAD AND HAVE A DEEP PERSONAL REASON TO HATE JOHNSTON CHRISTOPHER BUT? AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME TO SAY IT, READ MY POST AND YOU'LL REALISE IT WASN'T HIS FAULT MATE! He'd HAD 3 VERY badly tendon damage to 3 legs mate. AND TJS Vet told my father He refused to clear him to run that day, Old heartless TJ Who had absolutely zero compassion for his horses REGARDLESS of what he said...Told Percy IFFF U DON'T CLEAR HIM I'LL PAY ANOTHER VET TO DO IT!!🤬🤬🤬🤬So, Mr Sykes told Malcolm to let him go early because although he thought he'd win, because his big heart d get him OVER the line 1st it'd v crippled him permanently and he'd more than likely stumble and fall in the ease up phase after the Post. M.J DID love K T SO? When my Sykes told him, He said ok Percy I'll let him go at the clock tower. WHICH AS U KNOW He did...AND Malcolm had told Dittman before the race Chris, Mick and him were best friends and Mick said I'm glad I'm not riding him Mate because my whiphand d over rule my race sense brain and I'd flog him AND let him go from about the 100 Mark Malcolm!! When he came back to the scales TJ WENT OFF HIS HEAD which u and I d both agree with if u didn't know what I just told u mate. AND, Johnston replied IIIII DON'T GIVE A FK WHAT U SAY TJ!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬I love This horse and I'll listen to Percy before u!! AND added...I've gone against Percy so many xs in the past and I've burnt 2 yr olds out listening to your advice AND!! While u might win Slippers and other BIG PRIZE MONEY 2 YR OLD RACES...THEY'RE ALL NO GOOD AND BURNT OUT BY 3 AND R NEVER THE SAME, AND 95 pc of them NEVER WIN ANOTHER BREAD AND BUTTER RACE UUUUUU CRUEL PRICK!! AND Christopher, John Hardy was there at the x because he was a sports columnist for the Daily telegraph in Sydney!! He comes from Coonamble like me, and told me that himself mate. As they went past the Post Mick looked at M.J AND SAID 'SORRY MATE' GAURNERS LANE D V NEVVVER BEATEN KT IF HE WASN'T SO CRIPPLED! ....Of course I'm glad I won, but we both know I'd have NEVER beaten K T if he wasn't 3/4s crippled!! Lastly mate, if u only knew why I hate Jonston, AND Knew I had $500 on the nose that day at 9/1 you'd know I'm not talking through my pocket mate....BLIND DRUNK I HAD 500 THE WIN TO NAIVE TO HAVE BACKED KT EW AND STILL WON ABOUT A CLOSE TO A GRAND.
@@deanfoley69Hey Champ, over here attempting to tutor others, after being schooled by myself on the TJ Smith/L Dittman debate. Did you look up “Dunning Kruger Effect” like I asked you to do, before you threw your little tizzy fit. You and your sort (lack of knowledge/maturity) make takin’ 🤡s like yourself down soooooooooo much fun. 😘
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First time I have seen that race. What a great duel it was.
I was the postie who delivered to Gurners Lane alongside 440 Collins St Melbourne. Expert comments said no good in the wet, so I didn't back him in the Caulfield Cup. Expert comments said won't get 2 miles - you know how it goes.....
What an awesome race from Noble Comment. Underrated run second all the way and still placed. Got second the next year too.
I came to Australia in 1982 when I was 8. My Australian Nan sent me to school with a horse from a sweep and said if it won I could keep the money. It was Gurners Lane. I was in disbelief as it's name started entering the radio call toward the end of the race. At the time I had no idea it had pipped one of the greats in Kingston Town. It is certainly an enduring memory of my early days in Aistralia. Watching the re-run having seen 35 cups since it displayed that turn of foot so valuable in a cup win, really flashing home in that last 200.
Who u like this year
This race sticks in my mind because it's the first time I remember anyone in my family picking and backing the winner (Dad).
What a horse kingston town ❤id be confident to put him in any distance 👏 in any era.
My brother Garry backed Kingston Town, and I was on Gurner's Lane. Mick Dittman rode so hard he lost the cloth portion of his skullcap.
Miracle went too early and The King was carrying the grandstand. His best distance was from 2,000 to 2,400 metres. One of the bravest efforts you will ever see. Watch Mick Dittman's whipping action on Gurners Lane. Imagine him doing that with today's whip laws. Gave it the dream run along the rails.
and knocket half the field over to get out of a pocket thionk he got 2 months suspension
NUS01 - Wasn’t the first time he’d done it either. That’s where his name “The Enforcer” came from. And why T.J. Smith made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. He would take out Whoever was on his outside “to get clear racing room” AT WHATEVER COST to give his Mount “Every possible chance”. And if received “A Holiday” for it, so be it, it was taken care of in a Financial Sense, as long as he got the Horse to the Post first, that’s all that mattered.
58.5 was light for a double figure G1 winner
@@filipina5953 Smith never trained Gurners Lane!! Geoff Murphy was his trainer. Are you saying TJ Smith would’ve destroyed the chances of his own HORSE??😆😆
@@Writeowl Not sure what you mean by your comment of “Destroying his own horses’s chances”, but was saying that - when the money was “On” a TJ charge, Dittman would get it to the line first, no matter what it took to get it there, and worry about the consequences later. And Yes, well aware of who Gurner’s Lane trainer was. 😊😊
Legendary rugby league caller Ray Warren the racecaller.
rabs call it 4 nsw viewers
Novelty value here !!
Sounded like Byrt Bryant to me. Sorry if the spelling is wrong
I remember him also calling the harness racing Miracle Mile this same year, and what a great call.
Malcolm Johnston was my Jockey idol but I believe his biggest mistake wasn't going early but more from taking the king 5 deep and leaving himself no choice than to go early once the leaders dropped off.
He needed something to go with him and take him into the race, the irony of it was Kingston town was on the fence and Gurners Lane eventually took the run he would have got if he stayed there
What you have submitted here is very interesting.
Do keep in mind that KT was going up against top quality opposition, not like winx who's career was what I call ' well managed'. KT also had the ability to carry injury. However, I do agree that this race wasn't Malcolm Johnstons best.
Kingston Town what a champion. Mal robbed him of the win.
Yes he did Rob the great Kingston of a win and MJ got his just deserts and I feel sorry that happened to him and TJ.
He didn't do it on purpose. He is still spewing about it.
Kingston Town should have won this. But, not taking anything away from Gurners Lane. He was a top class stayer and it took a horse of his calibre to knock off the king at the post( however, it was a tactical error by Malcolm Johnson that partly contributed to Kingston Town running second).
I am a big fan of Kingston Town. He was, and still is, my favourite racehorse. He was able to compete at the top carrying injury( so did Manikato) and was still beating quality opposition.
Great horses beat the best. They don't dodge the contest.
However, very graciously, I give full credit to Gurners Lane.
He took the top weight five wide at the 900 !!!
He was worried that the slow ones up front would fall back on him.
He only had 900m to stay out of their way and save him for a sprint at the furlong.
How about Mick Dittman's great ride on the winner ???
Brilliant ride. It took a ride like that to beat KT, not for Johnston to lose it.
Mark Norris - Finally a True Expert who calls it How it Happened. you a ⭐️ my Friend. No Jockey on the Planet could hav3 beaten “The Enforcer” that 1982 Day. Best I’ve ever seen. That’s why T.J. wanted him. 2 of the Great Turf Legends with the other being one x J.B. Cummings. 🏆🏆🏆
Year before this Kingston town ran 20th in the cup !! Wat happen that year to him
Not as bad as Crisp in the National but very sad.
Where's my post!!
The worst ride you will ever see in your life. Mal was taking the fur off the Champ before he even got to the clock tower. By the time he saw Gurners Lane go past on the inside it was too late.
mal johnston was a dog of a jokey!!!
Yeah I agree this was his worst ride and he went far too early should have stayed on the rails longer and I guarantee Gurners Lane doesn't win.
Actually I thought Darren Beadman's ride on Lonhro in his last start was the absolute worst ride I've ever seen. About a hundred times worse than Johnston's ride here. Johnston's ride was not the best judged ride in hindsight (sitting in the stands seeing the other horses Johnston couldn't have seen), but he was trying to win the race.
@@marknorris1381 beadman ride wasnt the greatest but that day the champ lonhto wasnt beating grand armee this ride was the worst on the king
@@stevenbright9823 I don't know man. Johnston at least put him in the picture. He just wasn't good enough on the day. Beadman didn't put Lonhro in the picture at all, didn't give him any chance. I suppose we all have different views, so I respect yours. All the best.
Kingston town was the real winner that day he carried the grandstand in weight and of course Kingston town carried a jockey that should have known better. Good ride Mick Dittman
I near cried that day. KT went a bit too early
MJ did
@@marklulham3148 Indeed, I stand corrected.
It was an absolute dog of a ride from Johnston. A great horse like Kingston Town deserved far better.
One of the greatest tragedies on an Australian racecourse that Kingston Town didn't win the 1982 Melbourne Cup.
To secure victory Gurners Lane knocked over both Port Carling and Wellington Road.
In Britain the stewards would have taken the race from him.
And yes i backed the King.
Went way too early, lumping the grandstand all the way up the straight!
Chris J i bet tommy smith went right off at johnston!
gurners lane knocked over both wellington road and port carling in the straight to get up and beat our greatest horse ever. a very sad day indeed.
Damn
Malcolm johnston still to this day wont accept that he slaughtered Kingston town in this race ,maintaining that "I rode him the same way I did in every other race and most of the time we won "
Yes Mal but most of those races were 2000m - 2400m weght for age or set weight races, this was a 3200m handicap in which The King had top weight of, from memory 61kg, and there is no doubt that a better thought out and executed ride sees him win.
If you watch a replay of the Sydney cup Kingstown won as a 3yo where he made three or four runs changing position throughout the race and this replay you're kind of left wondering did malcolm think he was riding a machine or did he just not have any idea how to ride 2 mile races.
What really p's me off is that Kingston town had 3 starts at 3200m for 1 win and 1 2nd and all the so called experts say he couldn't stay the 2 miles.His other run when unplaced in the 1981 Melb.cup is still to me one of the dark mysteries of racing.
Most people knew had "trained off" and should never had even started. He jumped out of the gates, was jagged back into second last place and and cantered around with his head on his chest and for the whole race and was never asked to compete at any stage. In other words he ran "Dead" Why?
Was it because the VRC didn't want him scratched because he was such a crowd puller?... was it because of all of the money invested on caulfield cup- melb cup doubles markets? None of these questions were ever asked or answered...The only explaination offered by the stable was that his tendon injury had flared up again.
Very sus!
where's Winx's second place in a Melbourne Cup?
Winx doesn't need a second in the cup she has nothing to proove. The King was a champion but she would have had his measure.
Glen u are an idiot kingston would destroy her wouldn't see which way he went
@@stevenbright7399 on what are you relying on to make that assertion it must be something other than their respective race records. I get it you are channeling from elsewhere get your hand off it.
Kingston town is the complete race horse ever along with tulloch wins from 1200m to 3200m if u think she is better you are clueless and only started following racing 5yrs ago she is great no doubting her but could you imagine the king not having leg injuries.
@@stevenbright7399 firstly I was at Rosehill the day an ordinary horse named More Mink went within a whisker of beating the King so I haven't just followed racing for five years. As great as he was he did put in a few ordinary efforts particularly in Melbourne. You can blame sore legs but that's part of racing. It's been 4 years since Winx has put in a poor performance. Her time form rating race record and the opinion of racing people all support she is better than the King. To label me an idiot and clueless shows your level of class.
challenging for the lead at the 500 carrying 58.5kg ?..criminal,the King was robbed by his own team unfortunately,then smith had the audacity to keep running him when he was a finished horse '83-84 very sad ending to a mighty horse ,Smith should of been jailed for what he did the horse after he got injured the 1st time
I can't watch this !! Mal slaughtered Him ... :(
I HAD AND HAVE A DEEP PERSONAL REASON TO HATE JOHNSTON CHRISTOPHER BUT? AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME TO SAY IT, READ MY POST AND YOU'LL REALISE IT WASN'T HIS FAULT MATE! He'd HAD 3 VERY badly tendon damage to 3 legs mate. AND TJS Vet told my father He refused to clear him to run that day, Old heartless TJ Who had absolutely zero compassion for his horses REGARDLESS of what he said...Told Percy IFFF U DON'T CLEAR HIM I'LL PAY ANOTHER VET TO DO IT!!🤬🤬🤬🤬So, Mr Sykes told Malcolm to let him go early because although he thought he'd win, because his big heart d get him OVER the line 1st it'd v crippled him permanently and he'd more than likely stumble and fall in the ease up phase after the Post. M.J DID love K T SO? When my Sykes told him, He said ok Percy I'll let him go at the clock tower. WHICH AS U KNOW He did...AND Malcolm had told Dittman before the race Chris, Mick and him were best friends and Mick said I'm glad I'm not riding him Mate because my whiphand d over rule my race sense brain and I'd flog him AND let him go from about the 100 Mark Malcolm!! When he came back to the scales TJ WENT OFF HIS HEAD which u and I d both agree with if u didn't know what I just told u mate. AND, Johnston replied IIIII DON'T GIVE A FK WHAT U SAY TJ!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬I love This horse and I'll listen to Percy before u!! AND added...I've gone against Percy so many xs in the past and I've burnt 2 yr olds out listening to your advice AND!! While u might win Slippers and other BIG PRIZE MONEY 2 YR OLD RACES...THEY'RE ALL NO GOOD AND BURNT OUT BY 3 AND R NEVER THE SAME, AND 95 pc of them NEVER WIN ANOTHER BREAD AND BUTTER RACE UUUUUU CRUEL PRICK!! AND Christopher, John Hardy was there at the x because he was a sports columnist for the Daily telegraph in Sydney!! He comes from Coonamble like me, and told me that himself mate. As they went past the Post Mick looked at M.J AND SAID 'SORRY MATE' GAURNERS LANE D V NEVVVER BEATEN KT IF HE WASN'T SO CRIPPLED! ....Of course I'm glad I won, but we both know I'd have NEVER beaten K T if he wasn't 3/4s crippled!! Lastly mate, if u only knew why I hate Jonston, AND Knew I had $500 on the nose that day at 9/1 you'd know I'm not talking through my pocket mate....BLIND DRUNK I HAD 500 THE WIN TO NAIVE TO HAVE BACKED KT EW AND STILL WON ABOUT A CLOSE TO A GRAND.
Yea very hard to watch tommy would have let Johnston knw
My Sir Avon drew a bit better would of made it interesting
King should hav won bad ride
Reminds me of Real Quiet. Sad to see a great horse beaten
Poor king
L Dittman
what can you say
Great to see Kingston Town sent back to Sydney (with Jock and Trainer) the loser. Apart from the great Cox Plate win, did bugger all in Melbourne.
5 Group 1s in Melbourne
@@deanfoley69Hey Champ, over here attempting to tutor others, after being schooled by myself on the TJ Smith/L Dittman debate. Did you look up “Dunning Kruger Effect” like I asked you to do, before you threw your little tizzy fit. You and your sort (lack of knowledge/maturity) make takin’ 🤡s like yourself down soooooooooo much fun. 😘
You sir are an idiot kingston had so many injuries he was the greatest to ever race in oz.
Three straight Cox Plates, not bad for bugger all.