Everyone is writing off the AB's but fail to remember their forward pack and backline have been plagued with injuries and suspensions. They haven't come close to fielding a full strength side since their first game in Australia. Against Italy, they are finally back to at least 95% full strength, except for de Groot who will be back for the QFs. The team selected is very dangerous, some high impact players will be coming on in that second half. Roigard, McKenzie, Whitelock, Lomax and Cane will prove to be to much for Italy. I believe the AB's are going to come out and dominate, while putting a few teams on notice, showing the rest of the world that they are no joke.
Good commentary This the first game the all blacks have been able to put a real ist team on the field mainly due to injury pre-tournament. I think this squad looks good especially the bench
All Blacks in a great place to go all the way ,injury free ,Blackadder in . No Malcom marks ,France hurt by injuries ,Irish quarter final going to be a ripper
If ABs and SA make the QF’s then ABs would likely be up against Ireland and SA up against France. As it currently stands, they won’t play each other in the QF’s but could potentially play each other in the final. But yes -- never, ever, ever write off the AB’s. From a Bok supporter.
As an NZer, we are not big enough or strong enough up front any more. You guys, Ireland and France have proven that over the last couple of years. If it can't be us I will back our greatest and most respected foe.
I think there’s blood in the water with the Series Win in NZ. They will be back with a vengeance in the QF and I feel sorry for Ireland, because I would love an Ireland vs SA final (if we make it past Tonga > France > Semis).
It's gonna take some mean feat for the ABS to beat Ireland I reckon the ABS comin back from injuries have had no game time plus they are not fully firing up front it's gonna take a massive effort that's forsure C'mon All Blacks Bring it !!!
Bok fan. Over the years watching the AB. I would say they are the best team at punishing mistakes. They score so many tries off a loose ball. It could be that the other teams just doesn't make that many mistakes anymore. Still not writing off the AB and before the RWC I thought they will reach the finals. Now it's 50/50 for me against Ireland. The only reason for that is the experience in the RWC they have. That for me counts a lot.
Saffa here and the answer is yes. We’ve learned too well over the years that the AB’s rarely stay down for long then usually recoil spectacularly. Some incredible players in that squad. Would still want to avoid them if we make the quarters.
mate, thanks for the support. Ill be watching, if the boks come up vs abs at some stage, ill be watching with a boks guy from work. Should be great stuff. The dream would be a boks vs abs final although im not sure how possible that is now. Imagine it. 3-3 in rwcs. Rugby championship win vs absolute thrashing pre rwc warm up. Would be a dream. Nevertheless, for the first time ever, if the abs crash out, I will be supporting the boks.
I’m a an supporter but they need to have some back up plan they are not going to get the lighting fast ball against Sa France Ireland , their defence is not the greatest at present They use to be able to change their game plan though out the game , They need to set deeper make those big fellas run further , at the moment rvery time they receive a pass there under pressure just an opinion
@@burt101welly6the problem with that strategy is the Ireland pack is crazy fit, and the Boks pack only plays 50mins. (I don't know how the French would respond). Your point about adapting to the game is very true.
It's right where we need to be, under the radar which means no pressure, we have no injuries, we've lost but we've learned, what matters is what we will do from now.
ABs at full strength will be hard to beat especially if they are disciplined and could win the world cup, however there are some other fantastic teams that can win too, and a few under expected upsets.
Yes France and SA are celebrating beating us but isn't it a coincidence that they are the only 2 losses in the last 14-15 months and that we were missing 5 starters snd DMac in those 2 losses
I don't think anybody would ever right off the AB's, even South Africa want to avoid them in the QF. Just that they really only have one hard game in the pool which was the opening one and reality is the next real test is the QF whoever they play from pool B. So we really have not seen them. But nobody is going to underestimate them.
Kiwi here. We have the players that could win this World Cup but you are right we are inconsistent and I still put this down to our Coach. Our weakest position is the Coach and any team could turn up on the day. For instance, I felt we should have beaten France and then Foster subs off Mark Talea our star winger who just scored 2 tries. He doesn’t even have Damien McKenzie on the bench who is a impact player. Fozzie just makes strange decisions.
I think the quality of world rugby has lifted across the board. The ABs have lost their ascendancy in recent years because world rugby has worked incredibly hard to challenge them (and SA) at the top. Now it's far less certain they'll win all of their games, and they don't. But game by game you would find it hard to hear anyone right them off. And once they confirm their place in the quarter finals any team they face will take them very seriously. All teams deserve that kind of respect in todays rugby landscape, and it's very exciting for rugby fans and teams to feel confident about their chances going into any game. Can they win the tournament? Of course they can! C'mon the ABs!🖤
Terrible coach, he has no winning record as the head coach of any team. But, they’re good enough to knock over any of the other teams on their day, the bounce of the ball, a red card or two, an injury here or there, nothing is a given.
Rest of the world have flooded their teams and leagues with new zealanders in saying that their coach is simply inept ,steve hansen has alot to answer for considering he was fosters biggest fan
No.. World Rugby have slowed the game down to such a snails pace with the over zealous safety and card system and the technical pedantry of the officials that the fast running, aerobic and skills based game that suit NZ and Australia has ruined a beautiful game.. It now suits NH teams and SA who base their game around defense and Big aerobically unfit boofhead forwards who only need to play 40 mins of Rugby... Hence the 'BombSquad"... The North have ruined a Beautiful game by slowing it down so they can compete.. So Simple that even the local Village Idiot could see.. Save us all and go play/watch NFL... Please......
It will be a miracle if they AB's make it to the Semi finals. They have not had the ability to adapt or change tactics during a game, they also look terrible under pressure. They also need a better captain in my eyes. I think they needed to start Roigard and put Jordan at fullback, with fainga'anuku on the wing. I also think they should have put Havili on the bench.
You have a point mate, the ABs haven't played at full strength because of injury has kept our fwrds and mid field mediocre, i think when they finally have their team they will go well.
I am an AB fan. I feel Abs are quietly preparing. Their discipline is an issue which is not allowing them to get any rhythm in the game. This weekend's will shed more light in abs preparation. Abs have an axe to grind against Ireland. And don't forget the architect of of Irish rugby's resurrection - Joe Schmidt is coaching the blacks now. I can see irish fans getting over confident of winning the WC. Just hold this thought guys!
Yes they are under radar. I was hoping no one would notice lol. All Blacks want to play to their strengths. Which is a high tempo game. But they need a low mistake count and high accuracy rate with their skills, Tough to do when they get outmuscled. But they are quite capable of putting on a lot of points in a short period of time. Ireland South Africa France are still favourites. But the all Blacks are a dangerous knockout Rugby opponent.
Foster spoke about a “ perfect storm “ of bad luck after the SA game. Before leaving NZ for the World Cup, they lost Retallic and Frizel to injury then one of their first choice props in Lomax and Barrett’s red card. That’s 4 starting forwards! Injuries again hampered their opening game against France , with Cane and J Barrett out as well as his brother Scott with suspension. The ABs start their game against Italy with a fully recovered roster bar Degroot ( suspended). No excuses now, and surely “Luck” will favour the brave.
@@jameslovering9158 Yup, need a statement performance here. They will have seen the intensity of that SA v IRE game and know they really have to bring it. They cant have a slow start, they have to start at a 10 and then crank it up to 11. Be ruthless.
ABs are not as bad as people make out. Before the red card in their warm-up Vs SA, they made some big line breaks, and looked threatening. For all the fuss that folks made about the Boks hammering them in the warm up, the Boks were playing against 14 men for 60 mins.
You are. Right if the kiwi play their style of rugby a team that can smash any team they have got a coach that is and old fox And players will die for the All BACK jersey not just pride but the honour to play for New Zealand 🇳🇿 their forwards tough as will support a great backline And they can run from any where now watch the All Blacks play good hard rugby and take the world 🌎 cup
AB playing less intense games till quarter are going to have to pick themselves up for a Quarter. I think Italy after beating Australia and having a good run against Uruguay may give ABs a test😊
The All Blacks have always tried to play the game at pace, relying on scoring tries more than kicking penalties and drop goals. To achieve that they need quick ball at the breakdown, but lately when they come up against powerful forward packs like the Springboks and French, they have not been able to gain ascendancy there, which has allowed those opponents to dictate the pace of the game and win the territory battle. It's funny here because by the end of the Rugby Championship there was a feeling that the team had turned a corner and were finally heading in the right direction. Then the wheels fell off with the record defeat to the Springboks at Twickenham and the first ever pool stage loss (against France) causing the levels of cynicism to rise again here. Some are even claiming that Italy are going to beat the ABs on the weekend, giving Ian Foster two more "firsts" to end his troubled tenure, a first loss to Italy and their first ever pool stage exit (like what's expected to happen to the Wallabies). Edit: because the All Blacks lost to France and Ireland beat South Africa, that means that unless Scotland causes an upset by beating Ireland, the Irish will face the All Blacks in the Quarter Final and France will play South Africa.
I’m one of those kiwis that didn’t believe the ABs had turned a corner. I don’t trust Foster and knew the ABs would still have ups and downs. It’s almost like we’ve become the French team of old. Which team is going to turn up?
AB team v Ireland 3rd test 2022: 1. George Bower 2. Codie Taylor 3. Nepo Laulala 4. Brodie Retallick 5. Samuel Whitelock 6. Scott Barrett 7. Sam Cane 8. Ardie Savea 9. Aaron Smith 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Sevu Reece 12. David Havili 13. Rieko Ioane 14. Will Jordan 15. Jordie Barrett 16. Dane Coles 17. Aidan Ross 18. Ofa Tu’ungafasi 19. Akira Ioane 20. Dalton Papalii 21. Folau Fakatava 22. Richie Mo’unga 23. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck AB team for Italy and a potential quarter final v Ireland at RWC (should they progress): 1. Ofa Tu’ungafasi 2. Codie Taylor 3. Nepo Laulala 4. Brodie Retallick 5. Scott Barrett 6. Shannon Frizell 7. Dalton Papali’i 8. Ardie Savea 9. Aaron Smith 10. Richie Mo’unga 11. Mark Tele’a 12. Jordie Barrett 13. Rieko Ioane 14. Will Jordan 15. Beauden Barrett 16. Dane Coles 17. Tamaiti Williams 18. Tyrel Lomax 19. Samuel Whitelock 20. Sam Cane 21. Cam Roigard 22. Damian McKenzie 23. Anton Lienert-Brown Agree that the AB's are the sleeping giants coming in under the radar, this team which looks to be near full strength should put plenty on Italy. It's vastly different and IMO a much stronger and better balanced team compared to last year. If NZ get through that game and other results go as expected, they meet Ireland in the quarters. Since their last meeting, players have been changed, coaching personnel has changed, importantly with the inclusion of Joe Schmidt who knows this Irish squad better than most, I think they should be quietly confident of tipping the Irish out of the cup which will also silence all the critics. They will need to sort their discipline, cut down on the silly errors and get back to what they do best.
Let's wait and see What or How the Match Officials officiate the game. The TMO's have stuffed up many of the game's that have been played already. This RWC is being scrutinize so closely not only by the TMO but by other observers.
Italy are the unlucky unknown in the World Cup, they’ve not played a proper game yet. One would think the ABs will put 30+ on them. People are quick to forget, the last team to beat Ireland was NZ. In that game the ref let the game flow and Ireland got pumped, the next 2 tests were refs that allowed the Irish forward slow the game to a crawl and they played a game vs an ABs with a red card. The ABs losses this year be SA (red card) and France were heavily influenced by some average calls as well as poor unforced discipline. *anyone that wants to call BS go watch the game NZ vs SA in Twikkers, 5 seconds (literally next ruck) after the “red card” Barrett clean out Vermeulen hits a player 3 times in the head. How the TMO misses that is a worry. Vs France terrible no try for a non existent knock on and a penalty just before half against Talea when he was penalized for not releasing after stealing the ball from the French and that player had not released. (Go and check it, I have all the receipts). If the ABs get those 50/50 calls. They can go all the way. Game momentum and calls that lead to cards that have even higher momentum shift are so influential when margins are small. If the ABs get Barnes vs Ireland, then I’d be a worried Irish supporter.
Im amped for the team selection for italy. 4 big players back. Cant wait to boot ireland out in the quarters again but this time maintain composure for the rest of the tournament. Another 30 point win over ireland should be satisfying in the rwc quarters like last time. But i hope we then regroup to to back it up.
Should be pretty straightforward for the ABs if they can get close to 40min of actual play out of the 80 only 27min in the French game difficult to fatigue a team when all they want to do is go from set piece to set piece.
It's a long shot, but they could definitely do it. If they play with the speed and accuracy they did in that first 20 minutes against the Boks in Mount Smart, and they don't drop off like they usually do in the second half, then very few teams would be able to stay with them and beat them
As a Kiwi I dont have your optimism, although I do agree you cant write NZ off just yet. When I look at the individual talent NZ has I do wonder if NZ are on the rise & are yet to peak. Maybe thats just wishful thinking though - France, Ireland & South Africa certainly look stronger & better drilled than NZ
I think the ABs can take on the traditional French world cup role by knocking over one of the big teams as once-off. They haven't done enough to convince me of a super turnaround to go all the way.
Understand your lurking suspicions - but NZ just now seem to be a blend of yesterday’s men - and tomorrow’s men who haven’t quite clicked yet. The ageing pack will certainly not worry ANY of the big three. Apart from Ardie, Tele’a, and Mo’unga no one is consistently tearing up trees. Roigard is definitely one for the future. but not quite the finished article yet.
Sure this team can beat any team on their day but I cannot see it happening for them this RWC unless they get very lucky. Their game needs the correct conditions against the top 4 teams - dry track and referee that will be kind at break down and allow the game to flow. They don't currently have an answer for the stop start power game that Ire, SA, Fra can all play. Best outcome if they get past Italy is qtr exit.
Think you’re hit the nail on the head The abs just need to play pick protect and go against these teams , if they are going to have a chance at all ,they won’t get quick ball like they use to
The Quarter Final against Ireland if it works out that way, NZ will be very highly motivated after what happened last year. If they happen to get passed the Irisb though, it can be very difficult to follow that up a week later after such a big, focused week. It's hard to get back to the same place mentally, when the task is different if that makes sense.
Ireland will also be motivated. The All Blacks humiliated them in the last World Cup quarter final. However, we would never write them off. We only beat them for the first time about 7 years ago and before then it was a hundred years of pain.
ABs have players and coaches in the team who have been there before and won the WC. IMO mentally ABs have the experience to do so if they get through the QF, but could not say for Ireland who have never experienced a semi final...
NZ and England are both well under the radar. Italy is a knock out game for NZ and their RWC starts for real this weekend. Blackadder probably a better option than Papali'i. When teams slow and frustrate NZ we tend to go to bits and Papali'i just coughs up penalties.
we need degroot but he will be back later. Not a papaalii fan really or anton. But aside from that Im looking at the team selection for itlay and with cam and dmac on the bench, I feel like foster might actually be in sync with the public. Fast, electric, hope for tries. We need to get parity up front which isnt a given at all, but the style that wins for us now , we might as well double down on.
Isn't it a coincidence that the only 2 games NZ have lost in the last 14-15 months was when they were missing 5 starters and DMac?NZ are at full strength now trouble for the rest
I'll be honest, I underrated eng and wal pre tournament. They have both gained some team cohesion, which they lacked prior. It'd still be an upset to see them beat any of the big four.
How can New Zealand possibly be thinking about how they beat South Africa if they most likely have Ireland to get through in a quarter-final. Are you suggesting they will just walk through Ireland and their thoughts are immediately on SA, or did you forget that?
What about England, everyone's written them off before the RWC started. They'll most probably get out of their group then it's cup final knockout from there one & when England are down there's nobody better at getting back up again. I'd love to see Ireland winning the RWC & we know what to expect from the top favourites but nobody knows what England are going to do next and what way they're going to play. P.S. you could now possibly include Wales in there too, another surprise in store from them?
@@dogememer4780as an Irish fan 🇮🇪 I couldn't agree more. Scotland is 5th in the world for a reason! Pundits were overlooking ireland as true contenders before the SA game but have swung too far the other way now. No one in the Ireland camp is overlooking Scotland
Everybody looks at the AB-Springbok Championship game and says look at NZ. It was only 20 mins against a team, half of which had not played in months and definitely was holding back. They did not challenge in line outs at all in that game. Did the same thing happen in the Irish game when SA stop challenging in line outs after wining the first 5?????
South Africa does a lot of holding back, you've won 4 out of 27 rugby championship, and since neutral referees came in after 1976, you only win one in 4 roughly against us. What are you holding back for 😂
I have only seen the highlights of the rugby championship but at this world cup they haven't been tested yet but I agree we definitely sleeping on the all blacks
im going to say it nz could but i doubt they will due to them not being able to play thier game with northern hemisphere refs. other teams use the refs to slow the game down and it works for them. the only ref that alows a fast game at this tournament is a kiwi so thats us out
I really dont think anyone is sleeping on NZ they just arent that good the bok game ollowed by the french game proved this,to small with no game plan,they kick the ball aimlessly we must remember this teams track record
Im a fervent diehard all blacks fan and i think the answer is NO. I think a LOT of pundits and fans are just so unwilling to write off the POSSIBILITY of them doing something because of just how great the legacy is. It's just our legacy continuing to write cheques our current team can't cash unfortunately. Even when we win you see the same frailties show themselves. They are trying hard but the game plan and selection is fundamentally wrong. This decline is 4-6 years in the making which is how it's now gotten to where we are. This isn't a recent decline. The set piece isn't going to improve because we lost our three best props to cards or cuts or knee injuries and its taken so long to repair the damage of a few years ago when steve hansen told all of our props to start becoming lean and more mobile or they wouldnt be picked. This ancient front row we've picked (minus Cody) has been past it's prime for a while and definitely are a class below Healy, furlong and porter. Confidence is also going to be hard with record defeats and bad records being broken. What would they base that confidence on? And when we don't get LQB we have no answers and we're trying to play a gameplan that hasn't 'clicked' since 2019 and crucially italy and ireland are looking for some of the same things as we are in the game. So there isn't a favourable style clash there necessarily either. We might best Italy and get a false sense of security but the last few years have shown us pretty definitely that there's a big gap between 1,2 and 3 and again before 4 and maybe 5. Were just not there unfortunately. No sour grapes the other teams are just SO good right now at their particular games (fair dinkum) while we are not as good at the particular game we have been trying to implement (this all out attack from anywhere and anyhow). Italy is going to beat us in the rucks and there will be parity in the scrums. We're missing cane who for all his bad press makes most of the ABs tackles and turnovers. Were vulnerable because of a dangerous interpretation of officiating we've gotten used to and we could get cards and penalties through poor technique via SB and others. We've definitely seen the ABs unwilling or unable to adapt to the ref and the rules in game or even between games or seasons (we'd rather change the rules than conform to the ref of the day). We're missing our best linout caller and our hardest worker on his special day in whitelock. Frizzel coming back is good but we needed his beef months ago and he's only one player. Dalton isn't looking at the rucks as he should he's looking for a good line break or run. Also I'm not convinced about Ardie as Captain. I think whitelock is a better captain and player right now just look at what he did for a coach he loved in the SR final. Lastly with the amount of talent we have in the squad i think we've pidgeon holed ourselves into persisting with a starting back three when those three in those positions are by no means clearly the best. Bring in Leicester, move Will. Beaudy off the bench. All they offer right now is a dinky little kick to will Jordan or Reiko running through which looks absolutely beautiful in full flight but hasn't happened successfully for a while now or a cross field kick that we wouldn't have earned the right to do yet. When we've had a croissant and are back home we need a whole paradigm shift, a truly honest and open review of everything including philosophy, coaching, attitude to losing and beliefs (re: ball in play time and officiating and cards) (ban Jeff wilson from this process). Listen to keohanes comments about the abs recently (few times i agree with him) I appreciate everyone's nostalgia for them but when i look at my own team I'm not seeing it. I just hope we have a final worthy of the hype and the quality of the top three teams in this comp where we can all be satisfied at a good game of rugby even if my team isn't there. And i think we've already seen that game. I for one am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.
I actually think the opposite and the reason being, the rwc doesnt find the best team in the world, weve been that before and not won. The rwc finds the rwc winner. It includes a little luck, a bit of a spark and determination when others fail. Come time, we can get it done.
@@Edgycoo fair enough. And you're right. But we're not playing a tournament style. That situation is what SA had in '19 we need a lot more to go our way for that to happen for us. And the biggest obstacle is an Irish team that's really buzzing right now really confident. But hey it wouldn't be the first time we've pulled off a successful grudge match Vs Ireland in the quarters. I also think what we call luck is really just a few simple things done right. What do you think of the specific other points I raised cos I think they come together to prevent any nice surprises in the horizon.
You are sleeping a bit, but we arent in the top 3. If we struggle against italy even winning by 20 odd, Ireland will certainly beat us. But if we thrash Italy by 25 plus, watch out
Your only as good as your last performance. Inconsistent form, first time losses to Ireland and Argentina at home have them placed fairly at 4. Who knows what could happen if they get it right..
Unfortunately the ABs were too good for their own good. They dominated world rugby for over a hundred years and not by good luck. They achieved this through superior fitness, rugged determination and speed (something you can't coach). The only part of that equation still relevant is their determination. The game is now slower than it was, replay after replay after replay is killing the game as a spectacle, which suits the Northern hemisphere and South Africa, their games are all about power and the fitness and speed elements have been negated. The rules have been changed and rugby has suffered as a result, in terms of attracting the next generations fan base. In my humble opinion, rugby will be dead in 20 or 30 years. Do l think the All Blacks can win, yes absolutely, but they will need to be at their absolute best with luck thrown in for good measure.....up the ABs
No chance of winning the RWC and I am a Kiwi. Foster still playing players out of position and too many Blues players passed their best. Foster has the ability to take great Crusaders (Faiaanuku, Jordan) players and lower their performance in the ABs! Thank goodness Razor is nearly here.
You guys havent been the best in calling games so far....i think most are sleeping on Italy....most ABs are talking about an Irish Qtrs already.....very foolish
Italy has as much of a chance at beating the All Blacks than a Chihuahua has of beating a Rottweiler.....1 chance....getting stuck in the Rottweilers throat as the Rotty is chowing down, Italy vs All Blacks....NO CONTEST the Italians should feel lucky to score 0 points.
I don't think nr 4 will surprise and overcome nr 1 in such an importent match. In previous WC's NZ were always nr 1 and still couldn't win 6 out of 9 times. At nr 4 it's hopeless for them. They couldn't win nr. 2 and nr 3 in the previous weeks and the loss was both times by a big margin. What will change against nr 1 now? Isn't that called wishful thinking? My understanding of that word's meaning is that there is only wishes and no thinking. But don't feel bad. There are lots of cups between world cups you are going to win the next four years again.
Ian Foster has the 2nd worst win% as an all blacks coach all time. Sam Cane has the 2nd worse win% of any all black captin all time. We arnt under the radar. We could win. But Ireland and France are better.
Disagree!! ABs set piece has been pretty decent, their discipline on the other hand not so much. They can beat anyone if 15 players are kept on the park and dont give away silly penalties.
Im writing them off and I've been following them for 50 years First up Foster is out of his depth his role is to make sure NZ does not win - and we wont win our Quarter Take that to the bank - Look at his selections for Italy - Where is Blackadder and LF If we are to progress Blackadder has to be our 8 Savea 7 and Frizell 6 - do they have niggles if thats the case its a huge set back - we are almost out of time The writings on the wall Im afraid we dont have the cohesion monentum and right selections or stock to advance - ALB is not impact Why on earth do we have Laulala and Tungafesi playing no way Tungafesi gives away cards and penalties regularly FACT - Why no Newell why is Coles there lots of questions and no answers Good to see Mckenzie and Roigard on bench they will come on together - Ditch the Red card and bunker its killing the game Im also concerned teams in possession might be deliberately trying to gain yellow and reds in the tackle - its a can of worms I feel very suspicious official's have to much say - Furthermore any sport that allows betting is corrupt its just the nature of the beast - think of our corrupt criminal politicans and it will all make sense Freemasons everywhere advancimg their agendas Anyway the games been hijacked and Ive lost interest and belief
The France vs South Africa game has all the potential drama, injuries and red cards, it will be brutal I predict and probably result in damage one way or another to both teams.
I agree with your summation though. They have the potential to turn over Ireland and if they do they need to beat France or Sth Africa so a Final would be a breeze!! @@alfredreynolds5
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Everyone is writing off the AB's but fail to remember their forward pack and backline have been plagued with injuries and suspensions. They haven't come close to fielding a full strength side since their first game in Australia.
Against Italy, they are finally back to at least 95% full strength, except for de Groot who will be back for the QFs. The team selected is very dangerous, some high impact players will be coming on in that second half. Roigard, McKenzie, Whitelock, Lomax and Cane will prove to be to much for Italy.
I believe the AB's are going to come out and dominate, while putting a few teams on notice, showing the rest of the world that they are no joke.
right, and france beat them by 15 without having injuries....
Hope so, world needs a scary AB team. I see an all NH semi finals looming though …
Great video mate. Thanks. 👍👍👍
Good commentary This the first game the all blacks have been able to put a real ist team on the field mainly due to injury pre-tournament. I think this squad looks good especially the bench
All Blacks in a great place to go all the way ,injury free ,Blackadder in . No Malcom marks ,France hurt by injuries ,Irish quarter final going to be a ripper
Blackadder not playing this match sadly.
Bro don’t jinx us. I prefer no one talking about us and all the pressure on France, Ireland and SA
@@thedappercook blackmamba will be there for SA though.
If ABs and SA make the QF’s then ABs would likely be up against Ireland and SA up against France. As it currently stands, they won’t play each other in the QF’s but could potentially play each other in the final.
But yes -- never, ever, ever write off the AB’s. From a Bok supporter.
Top 2 in pool A will play top 2 in pool B, All Blacks looking at Ireland as it stands now. but we gotta beat Italy 1st, with a bonus point won't hurt.
As an NZer, we are not big enough or strong enough up front any more. You guys, Ireland and France have proven that over the last couple of years. If it can't be us I will back our greatest and most respected foe.
I just live it when the AB's write off SA like they did in the previous WC's.
NEVER write off the All Blacks .... SA supporter
I think there’s blood in the water with the Series Win in NZ. They will be back with a vengeance in the QF and I feel sorry for Ireland, because I would love an Ireland vs SA final (if we make it past Tonga > France > Semis).
It's gonna take some mean feat for the ABS to beat Ireland I reckon the ABS comin back from injuries have had no game time plus they are not fully firing up front it's gonna take a massive effort that's forsure C'mon All Blacks Bring it !!!
Bok fan. Over the years watching the AB. I would say they are the best team at punishing mistakes. They score so many tries off a loose ball. It could be that the other teams just doesn't make that many mistakes anymore. Still not writing off the AB and before the RWC I thought they will reach the finals. Now it's 50/50 for me against Ireland. The only reason for that is the experience in the RWC they have. That for me counts a lot.
Saffa here and the answer is yes. We’ve learned too well over the years that the AB’s rarely stay down for long then usually recoil spectacularly. Some incredible players in that squad. Would still want to avoid them if we make the quarters.
mate, thanks for the support. Ill be watching, if the boks come up vs abs at some stage, ill be watching with a boks guy from work. Should be great stuff. The dream would be a boks vs abs final although im not sure how possible that is now. Imagine it. 3-3 in rwcs. Rugby championship win vs absolute thrashing pre rwc warm up. Would be a dream. Nevertheless, for the first time ever, if the abs crash out, I will be supporting the boks.
I’m a an supporter but they need to have some back up plan they are not going to get the lighting fast ball against Sa France Ireland , their defence is not the greatest at present
They use to be able to change their game plan though out the game ,
They need to set deeper make those big fellas run further , at the moment rvery time they receive a pass there under pressure just an opinion
@@burt101welly6the problem with that strategy is the Ireland pack is crazy fit, and the Boks pack only plays 50mins. (I don't know how the French would respond). Your point about adapting to the game is very true.
@@burt101welly6 We will be fine. Long as we get degroot, lomax, frizzel all aboard we will win.
It's right where we need to be, under the radar which means no pressure, we have no injuries, we've lost but we've learned, what matters is what we will do from now.
ABs at full strength will be hard to beat especially if they are disciplined and could win the world cup, however there are some other fantastic teams that can win too, and a few under expected upsets.
No negativity here in NZ towards the ABs. We love our team and behind the boys all the way. Don’t forget we are now back to full strength
Yes France and SA are celebrating beating us but isn't it a coincidence that they are the only 2 losses in the last 14-15 months and that we were missing 5 starters snd DMac in those 2 losses
I don't think anybody would ever right off the AB's, even South Africa want to avoid them in the QF. Just that they really only have one hard game in the pool which was the opening one and reality is the next real test is the QF whoever they play from pool B. So we really have not seen them. But nobody is going to underestimate them.
Fully agree.
All Blacks is angry,they will make a statement.
As an Irish fan 🇮🇪 I'm not overlooking Scotland, never mind the all blacks. 5th and 4th in the world for a reason.
I can confirm that as bok fans we didn’t want that all blacks smoke.
thing is tho, people said the same thing before france match
@@dumingwenya7388Yeah let Ireland wear it !
Kiwi here. We have the players that could win this World Cup but you are right we are inconsistent and I still put this down to our Coach. Our weakest position is the Coach and any team could turn up on the day. For instance, I felt we should have beaten France and then Foster subs off Mark Talea our star winger who just scored 2 tries. He doesn’t even have Damien McKenzie on the bench who is a impact player. Fozzie just makes strange decisions.
Your coach and your captain. Cane is average.
McKenzie is on the Bench for Italy 🙂
As an irish supporter i am nervous as hell for the qf with abs. They definitely have a psychological advantage. The first 20 minutes are CRUCIAL.
Your arm wrestle analogy is spot on .
I think the quality of world rugby has lifted across the board. The ABs have lost their ascendancy in recent years because world rugby has worked incredibly hard to challenge them (and SA) at the top. Now it's far less certain they'll win all of their games, and they don't. But game by game you would find it hard to hear anyone right them off. And once they confirm their place in the quarter finals any team they face will take them very seriously. All teams deserve that kind of respect in todays rugby landscape, and it's very exciting for rugby fans and teams to feel confident about their chances going into any game. Can they win the tournament? Of course they can! C'mon the ABs!🖤
It's simply the worst coach we've ever had. Even worse than Laurie Mains
Laurie Mains was a drop kick away from winning the world cup. John Mitchell deserves more criticism.
Terrible coach, he has no winning record as the head coach of any team. But, they’re good enough to knock over any of the other teams on their day, the bounce of the ball, a red card or two, an injury here or there, nothing is a given.
Rest of the world have flooded their teams and leagues with new zealanders in saying that their coach is simply inept ,steve hansen has alot to answer for considering he was fosters biggest fan
No.. World Rugby have slowed the game down to such a snails pace with the over zealous safety and card system and the technical pedantry of the officials that the fast running, aerobic and skills based game that suit NZ and Australia has ruined a beautiful game..
It now suits NH teams and SA who base their game around defense and Big aerobically unfit boofhead forwards who only need to play 40 mins of Rugby... Hence the 'BombSquad"...
The North have ruined a Beautiful game by slowing it down so they can compete..
So Simple that even the local Village Idiot could see..
Save us all and go play/watch NFL... Please......
It will be a miracle if they AB's make it to the Semi finals.
They have not had the ability to adapt or change tactics during a game, they also look terrible under pressure.
They also need a better captain in my eyes.
I think they needed to start Roigard and put Jordan at fullback, with fainga'anuku on the wing.
I also think they should have put Havili on the bench.
Low bar for a miracle. The book keepers odds won't be so. I'm guessing also you won't be putting your house on it
You have a point mate, the ABs haven't played at full strength because of injury has kept our fwrds and mid field mediocre, i think when they finally have their team they will go well.
I am an AB fan. I feel Abs are quietly preparing. Their discipline is an issue which is not allowing them to get any rhythm in the game. This weekend's will shed more light in abs preparation. Abs have an axe to grind against Ireland. And don't forget the architect of of Irish rugby's resurrection - Joe Schmidt is coaching the blacks now. I can see irish fans getting over confident of winning the WC. Just hold this thought guys!
Ireland never get overconfident. Quiet confidence maybe.
Historically the ABs can always pull out a big one...and Ireland might be on the end of it.
SAFFA here, will always be nervous before play NZ . They could win the cup. The All blacks are one good win away from being a dangerous team again
hate to say it but i think NZ will beat ireland in the QF
Yes they are under radar. I was hoping no one would notice lol. All Blacks want to play to their strengths. Which is a high tempo game. But they need a low mistake count and high accuracy rate with their skills, Tough to do when they get outmuscled. But they are quite capable of putting on a lot of points in a short period of time. Ireland South Africa France are still favourites. But the all Blacks are a dangerous knockout Rugby opponent.
I totally agree with all of this. No notes.
Foster spoke about a “ perfect storm “ of bad luck after the SA game. Before leaving NZ for the World Cup, they lost Retallic and Frizel to injury then one of their first choice props in Lomax and Barrett’s red card. That’s 4 starting forwards! Injuries again hampered their opening game against France , with Cane and J Barrett out as well as his brother Scott with suspension. The ABs start their game against Italy with a fully recovered roster bar Degroot ( suspended). No excuses now, and surely “Luck” will favour the brave.
Its time to turn up now, it will be telling for sure.
@@jameslovering9158 Yup, need a statement performance here. They will have seen the intensity of that SA v IRE game and know they really have to bring it. They cant have a slow start, they have to start at a 10 and then crank it up to 11. Be ruthless.
pressure is off the AB's....under the radar for sure....
ABs are not as bad as people make out. Before the red card in their warm-up Vs SA, they made some big line breaks, and looked threatening.
For all the fuss that folks made about the Boks hammering them in the warm up, the Boks were playing against 14 men for 60 mins.
exactly..even 13 men for 10 of those mins
ABs supporter here, who doesn’t think ‘hot and cold’ is too harsh 😂
You are. Right if the kiwi play their style of rugby a team that can smash any team they have got a coach that is and old fox And players will die for the All BACK jersey not just pride but the honour to play for New Zealand 🇳🇿 their forwards tough as will support a great backline And they can run from any where now watch the All Blacks play good hard rugby and take the world 🌎 cup
AB playing less intense games till quarter are going to have to pick themselves up for a Quarter. I think Italy after beating Australia and having a good run against Uruguay may give ABs a test😊
The All Blacks have always tried to play the game at pace, relying on scoring tries more than kicking penalties and drop goals. To achieve that they need quick ball at the breakdown, but lately when they come up against powerful forward packs like the Springboks and French, they have not been able to gain ascendancy there, which has allowed those opponents to dictate the pace of the game and win the territory battle.
It's funny here because by the end of the Rugby Championship there was a feeling that the team had turned a corner and were finally heading in the right direction. Then the wheels fell off with the record defeat to the Springboks at Twickenham and the first ever pool stage loss (against France) causing the levels of cynicism to rise again here. Some are even claiming that Italy are going to beat the ABs on the weekend, giving Ian Foster two more "firsts" to end his troubled tenure, a first loss to Italy and their first ever pool stage exit (like what's expected to happen to the Wallabies).
Edit: because the All Blacks lost to France and Ireland beat South Africa, that means that unless Scotland causes an upset by beating Ireland, the Irish will face the All Blacks in the Quarter Final and France will play South Africa.
I’m one of those kiwis that didn’t believe the ABs had turned a corner. I don’t trust Foster and knew the ABs would still have ups and downs. It’s almost like we’ve become the French team of old. Which team is going to turn up?
The AB's will beat Italy. Then Ireland and play France in the FINAL! And WIN!
Except in Auckland and in SA at altitude...Forget Twickers - the ABs were down a vital forward for the game
AB team v Ireland 3rd test 2022:
1. George Bower
2. Codie Taylor
3. Nepo Laulala
4. Brodie Retallick
5. Samuel Whitelock
6. Scott Barrett
7. Sam Cane
8. Ardie Savea
9. Aaron Smith
10. Beauden Barrett
11. Sevu Reece
12. David Havili
13. Rieko Ioane
14. Will Jordan
15. Jordie Barrett
16. Dane Coles
17. Aidan Ross
18. Ofa Tu’ungafasi
19. Akira Ioane
20. Dalton Papalii
21. Folau Fakatava
22. Richie Mo’unga
23. Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
AB team for Italy and a potential quarter final v Ireland at RWC (should they progress):
1. Ofa Tu’ungafasi
2. Codie Taylor
3. Nepo Laulala
4. Brodie Retallick
5. Scott Barrett
6. Shannon Frizell
7. Dalton Papali’i
8. Ardie Savea
9. Aaron Smith
10. Richie Mo’unga
11. Mark Tele’a
12. Jordie Barrett
13. Rieko Ioane
14. Will Jordan
15. Beauden Barrett
16. Dane Coles
17. Tamaiti Williams
18. Tyrel Lomax
19. Samuel Whitelock
20. Sam Cane
21. Cam Roigard
22. Damian McKenzie
23. Anton Lienert-Brown
Agree that the AB's are the sleeping giants coming in under the radar, this team which looks to be near full strength should put plenty on Italy. It's vastly different and IMO a much stronger and better balanced team compared to last year. If NZ get through that game and other results go as expected, they meet Ireland in the quarters. Since their last meeting, players have been changed, coaching personnel has changed, importantly with the inclusion of Joe Schmidt who knows this Irish squad better than most, I think they should be quietly confident of tipping the Irish out of the cup which will also silence all the critics. They will need to sort their discipline, cut down on the silly errors and get back to what they do best.
Lots of talent in the ABs team..if they hit their straps and get their confidence up anything is possible.
Let's wait and see What or How the Match Officials officiate the game. The TMO's have stuffed up many of the game's that have been played already. This RWC is being scrutinize so closely not only by the TMO but by other observers.
Italy are the unlucky unknown in the World Cup, they’ve not played a proper game yet. One would think the ABs will put 30+ on them.
People are quick to forget, the last team to beat Ireland was NZ. In that game the ref let the game flow and Ireland got pumped, the next 2 tests were refs that allowed the Irish forward slow the game to a crawl and they played a game vs an ABs with a red card.
The ABs losses this year be SA (red card) and France were heavily influenced by some average calls as well as poor unforced discipline.
*anyone that wants to call BS go watch the game NZ vs SA in Twikkers, 5 seconds (literally next ruck) after the “red card” Barrett clean out Vermeulen hits a player 3 times in the head. How the TMO misses that is a worry.
Vs France terrible no try for a non existent knock on and a penalty just before half against Talea when he was penalized for not releasing after stealing the ball from the French and that player had not released. (Go and check it, I have all the receipts).
If the ABs get those 50/50 calls. They can go all the way. Game momentum and calls that lead to cards that have even higher momentum shift are so influential when margins are small.
If the ABs get Barnes vs Ireland, then I’d be a worried Irish supporter.
All Black's is always a threat and a good team. Do not write them off.
Im amped for the team selection for italy. 4 big players back. Cant wait to boot ireland out in the quarters again but this time maintain composure for the rest of the tournament. Another 30 point win over ireland should be satisfying in the rwc quarters like last time. But i hope we then regroup to to back it up.
Yeah bro here's hoping with ya !
Should be pretty straightforward for the ABs if they can get close to 40min of actual play out of the 80 only 27min in the French game difficult to fatigue a team when all they want to do is go from set piece to set piece.
It's a long shot, but they could definitely do it. If they play with the speed and accuracy they did in that first 20 minutes against the Boks in Mount Smart, and they don't drop off like they usually do in the second half, then very few teams would be able to stay with them and beat them
As a Kiwi I dont have your optimism, although I do agree you cant write NZ off just yet.
When I look at the individual talent NZ has I do wonder if NZ are on the rise & are yet to peak.
Maybe thats just wishful thinking though - France, Ireland & South Africa certainly look stronger & better drilled than NZ
I think the ABs can take on the traditional French world cup role by knocking over one of the big teams as once-off. They haven't done enough to convince me of a super turnaround to go all the way.
Understand your lurking suspicions - but NZ just now seem to be a blend of yesterday’s men - and tomorrow’s men who haven’t quite clicked yet. The ageing pack will certainly not worry ANY of the big three.
Apart from Ardie, Tele’a, and Mo’unga no one is consistently tearing up trees. Roigard is definitely one for the future. but not quite the finished article yet.
Nah that pack on form is arguably on par with the big three especially in the rugby championship
Yeah the AB's pack can match any team in the world, they aren't the pushovers people think they are.
Kiwi here, no I have no faith in our coach. We will lose QF. Ireland would need to have a bad day.
NZ v ITA
96-17
couldn’t quite crack the hundred
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sure this team can beat any team on their day but I cannot see it happening for them this RWC unless they get very lucky. Their game needs the correct conditions against the top 4 teams - dry track and referee that will be kind at break down and allow the game to flow. They don't currently have an answer for the stop start power game that Ire, SA, Fra can all play. Best outcome if they get past Italy is qtr exit.
Think you’re hit the nail on the head
The abs just need to play pick protect and go against these teams , if they are going to have a chance at all ,they won’t get quick ball like they use to
The Quarter Final against Ireland if it works out that way, NZ will be very highly motivated after what happened last year. If they happen to get passed the Irisb though, it can be very difficult to follow that up a week later after such a big, focused week. It's hard to get back to the same place mentally, when the task is different if that makes sense.
Ireland will also be motivated. The All Blacks humiliated them in the last World Cup quarter final. However, we would never write them off. We only beat them for the first time about 7 years ago and before then it was a hundred years of pain.
Whoever wins the quarter final will have an easier game in the semi
I tinks they have been there before they know what's comin Up the ABs !!!
ABs have players and coaches in the team who have been there before and won the WC. IMO mentally ABs have the experience to do so if they get through the QF, but could not say for Ireland who have never experienced a semi final...
As an Irish fan. No we're bloody not!!! Neither will any of the players or coaches. If we meet them in the quarters.
NZ and England are both well under the radar. Italy is a knock out game for NZ and their RWC starts for real this weekend. Blackadder probably a better option than Papali'i. When teams slow and frustrate NZ we tend to go to bits and Papali'i just coughs up penalties.
ABs yes, certainly not poms😂
we need degroot but he will be back later. Not a papaalii fan really or anton. But aside from that Im looking at the team selection for itlay and with cam and dmac on the bench, I feel like foster might actually be in sync with the public. Fast, electric, hope for tries. We need to get parity up front which isnt a given at all, but the style that wins for us now , we might as well double down on.
🤔England lost to Ireland, Wales and Fiji recently, what makes you think their under the radar.
Isn't it a coincidence that the only 2 games NZ have lost in the last 14-15 months was when they were missing 5 starters and DMac?NZ are at full strength now trouble for the rest
NZ underrated for sure. England, Wales, Fiji overrated.
I'll be honest, I underrated eng and wal pre tournament. They have both gained some team cohesion, which they lacked prior. It'd still be an upset to see them beat any of the big four.
The ABs coming back from injuries have had no game time though ?
How can New Zealand possibly be thinking about how they beat South Africa if they most likely have Ireland to get through in a quarter-final. Are you suggesting they will just walk through Ireland and their thoughts are immediately on SA, or did you forget that?
What about England, everyone's written them off before the RWC started. They'll most probably get out of their group then it's cup final knockout from there one & when England are down there's nobody better at getting back up again. I'd love to see Ireland winning the RWC & we know what to expect from the top favourites but nobody knows what England are going to do next and what way they're going to play. P.S. you could now possibly include Wales in there too, another surprise in store from them?
Easy pool for England with a terrible Argentina. Until they meet Fiji in the quarters and one of the top 4 in semis I will continue sleeping on them.
Easy pool for England with a terrible Argentina. Until they meet Fiji in the quarters and one of the top 4 in semis I will continue sleeping on them.
Lose to Fiji lol garbage england suck
ABs are building nicely into this tournament. I they are interact to peak at the right time. Ireland won’t make it past the Qtrs.
AB's still live in the past. WC is also past tense for NZ.
Never right off a wounded AB team!!!!!!
All black will play Ireland!
Looking forward to that clash of the titans.
Ireland have to play Scotland first and get out of the group. No team should be overlooked!!
@@dogememer4780as an Irish fan 🇮🇪 I couldn't agree more. Scotland is 5th in the world for a reason! Pundits were overlooking ireland as true contenders before the SA game but have swung too far the other way now. No one in the Ireland camp is overlooking Scotland
ABs by 30 this weekend. Ireland should be worried.
❤
Everybody looks at the AB-Springbok Championship game and says look at NZ. It was only 20 mins against a team, half of which had not played in months and definitely was holding back. They did not challenge in line outs at all in that game. Did the same thing happen in the Irish game when SA stop challenging in line outs after wining the first 5?????
South Africa does a lot of holding back, you've won 4 out of 27 rugby championship, and since neutral referees came in after 1976, you only win one in 4 roughly against us. What are you holding back for 😂
@@joedennehy386 LoL, your are on point. I will have to think about that.🤣
Yes u are right I see a NZ/France final
Who do you think you are agreeing with here? The video did not say this would happen. It said that half of this "could" happen.
We have at least one stellar game in us and that will be QF or we are going home
All blacks will be playing Ireland in 1/4 finals-how do you figure Springboks?
It baffles me to think people are writing the Allblacks off
All Blacks WILL win the cup.
I have only seen the highlights of the rugby championship but at this world cup they haven't been tested yet but I agree we definitely sleeping on the all blacks
Everbody knows what the Abs are capable of dont fool yourself the fans are just nervous
NZ 96-17 Italy woo
im going to say it nz could but i doubt they will due to them not being able to play thier game with northern hemisphere refs. other teams use the refs to slow the game down and it works for them. the only ref that alows a fast game at this tournament is a kiwi so thats us out
they meeting the Irish in the quarter finals not South Africa
NZ are healthy at the right time in this RWC, be afraid
Surely AB’s playing Ireland no?
I really dont think anyone is sleeping on NZ they just arent that good the bok game ollowed by the french game proved this,to small with no game plan,they kick the ball aimlessly we must remember this teams track record
If South Africa kicked all the points or half they would of won
AB have to beat Italy which will not be easy. Especially if they give away a lot of penalties.
Nz 96 v Italy 17 hiding bro blown absolutely off the park
Im a fervent diehard all blacks fan and i think the answer is NO. I think a LOT of pundits and fans are just so unwilling to write off the POSSIBILITY of them doing something because of just how great the legacy is. It's just our legacy continuing to write cheques our current team can't cash unfortunately. Even when we win you see the same frailties show themselves. They are trying hard but the game plan and selection is fundamentally wrong. This decline is 4-6 years in the making which is how it's now gotten to where we are. This isn't a recent decline.
The set piece isn't going to improve because we lost our three best props to cards or cuts or knee injuries and its taken so long to repair the damage of a few years ago when steve hansen told all of our props to start becoming lean and more mobile or they wouldnt be picked. This ancient front row we've picked (minus Cody) has been past it's prime for a while and definitely are a class below Healy, furlong and porter. Confidence is also going to be hard with record defeats and bad records being broken. What would they base that confidence on? And when we don't get LQB we have no answers and we're trying to play a gameplan that hasn't 'clicked' since 2019 and crucially italy and ireland are looking for some of the same things as we are in the game. So there isn't a favourable style clash there necessarily either. We might best Italy and get a false sense of security but the last few years have shown us pretty definitely that there's a big gap between 1,2 and 3 and again before 4 and maybe 5. Were just not there unfortunately. No sour grapes the other teams are just SO good right now at their particular games (fair dinkum) while we are not as good at the particular game we have been trying to implement (this all out attack from anywhere and anyhow). Italy is going to beat us in the rucks and there will be parity in the scrums. We're missing cane who for all his bad press makes most of the ABs tackles and turnovers. Were vulnerable because of a dangerous interpretation of officiating we've gotten used to and we could get cards and penalties through poor technique via SB and others. We've definitely seen the ABs unwilling or unable to adapt to the ref and the rules in game or even between games or seasons (we'd rather change the rules than conform to the ref of the day). We're missing our best linout caller and our hardest worker on his special day in whitelock. Frizzel coming back is good but we needed his beef months ago and he's only one player. Dalton isn't looking at the rucks as he should he's looking for a good line break or run. Also I'm not convinced about Ardie as Captain. I think whitelock is a better captain and player right now just look at what he did for a coach he loved in the SR final. Lastly with the amount of talent we have in the squad i think we've pidgeon holed ourselves into persisting with a starting back three when those three in those positions are by no means clearly the best. Bring in Leicester, move Will. Beaudy off the bench. All they offer right now is a dinky little kick to will Jordan or Reiko running through which looks absolutely beautiful in full flight but hasn't happened successfully for a while now or a cross field kick that we wouldn't have earned the right to do yet.
When we've had a croissant and are back home we need a whole paradigm shift, a truly honest and open review of everything including philosophy, coaching, attitude to losing and beliefs (re: ball in play time and officiating and cards) (ban Jeff wilson from this process). Listen to keohanes comments about the abs recently (few times i agree with him) I appreciate everyone's nostalgia for them but when i look at my own team I'm not seeing it. I just hope we have a final worthy of the hype and the quality of the top three teams in this comp where we can all be satisfied at a good game of rugby even if my team isn't there. And i think we've already seen that game. I for one am hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.
I actually think the opposite and the reason being, the rwc doesnt find the best team in the world, weve been that before and not won. The rwc finds the rwc winner. It includes a little luck, a bit of a spark and determination when others fail. Come time, we can get it done.
@@Edgycoo fair enough. And you're right. But we're not playing a tournament style. That situation is what SA had in '19 we need a lot more to go our way for that to happen for us. And the biggest obstacle is an Irish team that's really buzzing right now really confident. But hey it wouldn't be the first time we've pulled off a successful grudge match Vs Ireland in the quarters. I also think what we call luck is really just a few simple things done right. What do you think of the specific other points I raised cos I think they come together to prevent any nice surprises in the horizon.
@@dmazingi Dmac and cam on the bench is great. Double down on our style, youre right, its not an rwc optimized style, but we can do it. Cmon!
@@Edgycoo go all blacks!
Great assessment!
You are sleeping a bit, but we arent in the top 3. If we struggle against italy even winning by 20 odd, Ireland will certainly beat us. But if we thrash Italy by 25 plus, watch out
Your only as good as your last performance. Inconsistent form, first time losses to Ireland and Argentina at home have them placed fairly at 4. Who knows what could happen if they get it right..
As a NZer are they capable of winning a arm wrestle ..no
Are you guys serious Ireland doesn't stand a cat's chance the first 30mins the All blacks will have their bonus point 😅😅😅
You don’t peak at the beginning of the tournament, sleep on the Abs at your peril 😴
are you posh/middle class
Hahaha.
Unfortunately the ABs were too good for their own good. They dominated world rugby for over a hundred years and not by good luck. They achieved this through superior fitness, rugged determination and speed (something you can't coach). The only part of that equation still relevant is their determination. The game is now slower than it was, replay after replay after replay is killing the game as a spectacle, which suits the Northern hemisphere and South Africa, their games are all about power and the fitness and speed elements have been negated. The rules have been changed and rugby has suffered as a result, in terms of attracting the next generations fan base. In my humble opinion, rugby will be dead in 20 or 30 years. Do l think the All Blacks can win, yes absolutely, but they will need to be at their absolute best with luck thrown in for good measure.....up the ABs
No chance of winning the RWC and I am a Kiwi. Foster still playing players out of position and too many Blues players passed their best. Foster has the ability to take great Crusaders (Faiaanuku, Jordan) players and lower their performance in the ABs! Thank goodness Razor is nearly here.
Ireland will be a bridge too far for the ABs
😬Thumbnail cringe!
No chance from a kiwi haha
Do any of these RUclips Pundits really have a clue... No real in depth, cutting and nuanced analysis...
All Icing and very little Cake..
You guys havent been the best in calling games so far....i think most are sleeping on Italy....most ABs are talking about an Irish Qtrs already.....very foolish
Italy has as much of a chance at beating the All Blacks than a Chihuahua has of beating a Rottweiler.....1 chance....getting stuck in the Rottweilers throat as the Rotty is chowing down, Italy vs All Blacks....NO CONTEST the Italians should feel lucky to score 0 points.
Savea will get iinjured against Italy and Rieko red carded. Ireland to win 26-15 in QF's.
Youre drunk😂😂
@@westernsellers9148 cheers!!!!
NZ 96 v Italy 17 no red and savea wasn't injured so I'm guessing Ireland will lose also
@@emmanuelblack9386 no I not always wrong, neither always right.🤭😁😉
I don't think nr 4 will surprise and overcome nr 1 in such an importent match. In previous WC's NZ were always nr 1 and still couldn't win 6 out of 9 times. At nr 4 it's hopeless for them. They couldn't win nr. 2 and nr 3 in the previous weeks and the loss was both times by a big margin. What will change against nr 1 now? Isn't that called wishful thinking? My understanding of that word's meaning is that there is only wishes and no thinking. But don't feel bad. There are lots of cups between world cups you are going to win the next four years again.
Ian Foster has the 2nd worst win% as an all blacks coach all time.
Sam Cane has the 2nd worse win% of any all black captin all time.
We arnt under the radar.
We could win.
But Ireland and France are better.
Italy will make history,all blacks had no chance with Italy
Go put your house on it
Good on ya mate you keep that thought , hope is a good thing. I urge you not to put your house on it, you will end up homeless.
The ABs will lose it in the set piece.
Disagree!! ABs set piece has been pretty decent, their discipline on the other hand not so much. They can beat anyone if 15 players are kept on the park and dont give away silly penalties.
Abs will make a statement. Italy will get demolished.
Im writing them off and I've been following them for 50 years First up Foster is out of his depth his role is to make sure NZ does not win - and we wont win our Quarter Take that to the bank - Look at his selections for Italy - Where is Blackadder and LF If we are to progress Blackadder has to be our 8 Savea 7 and Frizell 6 - do they have niggles if thats the case its a huge set back - we are almost out of time The writings on the wall Im afraid we dont have the cohesion monentum and right selections or stock to advance - ALB is not impact Why on earth do we have Laulala and Tungafesi playing no way Tungafesi gives away cards and penalties regularly FACT - Why no Newell why is Coles there lots of questions and no answers Good to see Mckenzie and Roigard on bench they will come on together - Ditch the Red card and bunker its killing the game Im also concerned teams in possession might be deliberately trying to gain yellow and reds in the tackle - its a can of worms I feel very suspicious official's have to much say - Furthermore any sport that allows betting is corrupt its just the nature of the beast - think of our corrupt criminal politicans and it will all make sense Freemasons everywhere advancimg their agendas Anyway the games been hijacked and Ive lost interest and belief
The France vs South Africa game has all the potential drama, injuries and red cards, it will be brutal I predict and probably result in damage one way or another to both teams.
All Black most likely to Play Ireland in Quarters!!
Yeah of course! Lots of the questions still stand. My bad.
I agree with your summation though. They have the potential to turn over Ireland and if they do they need to beat France or Sth Africa so a Final would be a breeze!! @@alfredreynolds5