Good Job Wayne, hope you join the Show on Saturday for more conversation. I figured you would be pretty darned happy with this offering, hope you get one soon. - Jeff
Thanks Jeff. I’ll pop in, maybe on camera or chat. Have folks coming through, we will see which way it goes. It’s got most of what I expected, I would have loved a multi-angle 2000 nits HDR screen on the rear and a higher capacity battery to run it all. LOL!
@@waynerm002 Something tells me they will come out with a higher capacity battery at some point that would benefit obviously a whole lot of Nikon cameras that use this battery.
Wayne Mattock's opinion holds significant value among Nikon shooters due to his extensive experience and deep understanding of the Nikon system. Unlike many new videographers who have recently joined Nikon, Wayne is a true Nikon authentic shooter who knows the ins and outs of the system. If you're a videographer just starting out with the Nikon system, it's worth paying close attention to Mr. Mattocks' advice.📸✌
It's a bit better than I expected. I'm not a fan of the flippy screen, but that's not a deal breaker. Will definitely pick one up later this year. Looking forward to full reviews on production models. Where did you get that video with the designers btw? I didn't come across that one.
I used to be in the camp that didn’t like the flip forward screen, using the FX30 that had no viewfinder, gave me an appreciation for it. Later with the A7R V, that’s what I used mainly, due to having some hand pain with it’s ergonomics when using the EVF, it’s multi-angle screen made it such a joy to work with. Those clips were from Nikon Japan, we (I am in that camp for sure) complain how Nikon doesn’t do a good job with their marketing like Sony however, when watching their site, you get to hear from the engineers and designers about how and why they made the decisions for a particular camera. From the presentation, it almost seemed like the Z6 III wasn’t going to happen.
Wayne So far your opinions on the value of the Z6iii gave me more insight into this camera than any other RUclipsr video. I do not shoot video I'm a still photographer with a Z8 which I purchased because I was tired of waiting for the Expeed 7 technology to trickle down. My entry into Mirrorless was the Z6ii which is a capable camera when I was shooting events and some types of larger wildlife. I felt is lacked the mirrorless focusing experience I was looking for. I did love the Z glass with the Z6ii. The Z8 fulfilled those focusing and high resolution imaging needs. I will be buying a Z6iii to replace my Z6ii.
Granted, I’m neither a professional photographer nor videographer and my comments are simply those of an amateur Zf owner/enthusiast. The badass EVF is cool, but would have preferred/expected the bling to be brought to the rear screen on a video-centric camera. Debating on whether to add this camera to my bag as a complement to my Zf or a Z8. First world dilemma!
I’m with you on that rear screen, phones have HDR screens and I would like to see a larger HDR screen on the back of cameras. I do understand those screens can use a lot of battery power when used at high brightness outdoors. That may end up on a pro-camera first, Z9 II or something with more battery power. I’m right there with you on adding to my collection or selling one of my cameras to get it.
True, a number of releases are still pending however, I believe the Z6 III will do well. There are still a number of DSLR holdouts that will make the jump as well as others from other brands.
I wonder how much baked in noise reduction are inside the internal raw video of this camera. Nikon raw has some noise reduction and detail filtering in Nikon-raw video files, but what about Proresraw ?
From my experience with the Z8, the RAW files needs some work to clean up the noise, especially in low light. I have a couple of 8K videos I shot, one with the cleaned up files and the other where I explained what I had to do to get the night footage noise free. In Gerald's Undone's video of the Z6 III, during dynamic range testing, he mentioned NRAW does not have any noise reduction applied like what you get from other cameras. I tested ProRes RAW and the footage was grainy however, since it is not supported in Resolve natively, I don't use it.
@@aiseurnae5976 I went to look at the article, the images posted looks like what I have seen in high ISO night photos I have taken with my Z8, not what I have seen recording N-RAW. N-RAW does look grainy/noisy at ISO 800, but not as bad as at higher ISO. Check out Cine D's dynamic range test of the Z9, they did one on an early V1 log profile and then another after firmware 3.0 V2, they didn't mention N-RAW having noise reduction added. I don't recall hearing/reading anyone else stating this.
@@waynerm002 Thank you, indeed Cine D never mentionned NR inside N-raw on the Z9 review. I'm very interested by the Nikon Z6-III because I'm tired of Panasonic, mainly because they offer the same sensor from 2017 (since their S1 released in 2019), even the video quality of the SII is worse than their S1 and S5 because they added a lot of sharpening, detail filtering and chroma noise reduction making the image really not appealing each time I need to crop a bit in my videos. And also the lack of Panasonic S Pro lenses (the last one was released in 2020) is another issue.
@@aiseurnae5976 I've seen some photos and video from Panasonic cameras as well as Leica and they sort of have a similar look. I started my channel with a Panasonic camcorder and wanted to give the S1H a try but the AF was worse than my Z6 so I didn't bother with it. I like the result from the Z8 in SDR, NLOG or RAW. I want to get back fully into the Nikon system but, I do like using the FX30 as well. The Z lens are great and some of the S versions aren't too pricey. If you do decide to get one, I would suggest the 24-120 f4 S lens over the 24-70 f4 S, you get more range and it's only $100 more. If you can go all in, the 24-70 2.8 S is a really nice one to start with or the 1.8 primes. Nikon optics are really good.
It’s good that they took some steps to take it up a notch over the current crop of hybrid cameras. The improved the video specs while upping the photography side with some features from Z8/9 and adding and improving on what the Zf delivered.
Why do believe it is too expensive? What price do you think it should reasonably be sold for? Let’s look at what the competitors are doing. Sony introduced the A7 IV almost 3 years ago with a 33MP sensor but with similar specs to others in the class, for $2500. In the past year other manufacturers have re-released their sensors from their old cameras with updated processors with additional features (4K60 still with crop), while requiring external 6K RAW capabilities. Canon introduced the R6 II a,most 2 years ago with an upgraded processor, it is able to do 46K60 with no crop but, with 6K externally for $2500. Nikon has introduced a new sensor with their latest Expeed 7 processor in the Z6 III, performing closer to their flagship camera, carrying new features from the Zf, while upping the onboard video capabilities to 6K60 RAW internally, being able to record up to 2Hr 5Min in a body with no active cooling, for $2500. I would say it’s priced appropriately for the class.
@@weikaifan7979 LOL! That was 2021 pricing, where do you think they will price the A7 V? If Sony introduces a new sensor, processor and body to match/beat the Z6 III with 6K60 RAW along with tech from their other cameras, they most likely will raise their price. What’s the price you think is good for these cameras?
@@waynerm002 I am a Nikon photography enthusiast, and I also use Sony as my secondary camera. It’s just that manufacturers have been using squeeze methods to accumulate technology, and they have also been piling up prices, and of course they have taken advantage of the wallets of brand enthusiasts!
Good Job Wayne, hope you join the Show on Saturday for more conversation. I figured you would be pretty darned happy with this offering, hope you get one soon. - Jeff
Thanks Jeff. I’ll pop in, maybe on camera or chat. Have folks coming through, we will see which way it goes. It’s got most of what I expected, I would have loved a multi-angle 2000 nits HDR screen on the rear and a higher capacity battery to run it all. LOL!
@@waynerm002 Something tells me they will come out with a higher capacity battery at some point that would benefit obviously a whole lot of Nikon cameras that use this battery.
@@selectiveimagery let’s hope so.
Wayne Mattock's opinion holds significant value among Nikon shooters due to his extensive experience and deep understanding of the Nikon system. Unlike many new videographers who have recently joined Nikon, Wayne is a true Nikon authentic shooter who knows the ins and outs of the system. If you're a videographer just starting out with the Nikon system, it's worth paying close attention to Mr. Mattocks' advice.📸✌
Thanks Albert!
Me too. I respect Wayne's opinion
@@manilamartin1001 Thanks Martin!
+1 Wayne knows what he’s talking about.
@@PharaohMan007 Thanks!
It's a bit better than I expected. I'm not a fan of the flippy screen, but that's not a deal breaker. Will definitely pick one up later this year. Looking forward to full reviews on production models.
Where did you get that video with the designers btw? I didn't come across that one.
I used to be in the camp that didn’t like the flip forward screen, using the FX30 that had no viewfinder, gave me an appreciation for it. Later with the A7R V, that’s what I used mainly, due to having some hand pain with it’s ergonomics when using the EVF, it’s multi-angle screen made it such a joy to work with. Those clips were from Nikon Japan, we (I am in that camp for sure) complain how Nikon doesn’t do a good job with their marketing like Sony however, when watching their site, you get to hear from the engineers and designers about how and why they made the decisions for a particular camera. From the presentation, it almost seemed like the Z6 III wasn’t going to happen.
@@waynerm002 Thanks. Will check it 👍
I've preordered the Z6 III kit option with the Z 24-120mm S kit lense. I'm pretty excited! 😊
Congrats! 🎊 That lens is really good, I enjoy using it, would have been nice to have it as a f2.4-4, with f2.8 up to 60 and gradually up to f4 at 120.
That’s the best do-it-all lens I’ve ever used. Enjoy!
@@PharaohMan007 Yep, favored by photo and video shooters.
Wayne So far your opinions on the value of the Z6iii gave me more insight into this camera than any other RUclipsr video. I do not shoot video I'm a still photographer with a Z8 which I purchased because I was tired of waiting for the Expeed 7 technology to trickle down. My entry into Mirrorless was the Z6ii which is a capable camera when I was shooting events and some types of larger wildlife. I felt is lacked the mirrorless focusing experience I was looking for. I did love the Z glass with the Z6ii. The Z8 fulfilled those focusing and high resolution imaging needs. I will be buying a Z6iii to replace my Z6ii.
I wonder how the Z6iii and Z8 match up in post production 🧐… looking forward to testing that
The colors are slightly different on the photo side and I suspect the same for video but, that can be managed with a small tweak.
Granted, I’m neither a professional photographer nor videographer and my comments are simply those of an amateur Zf owner/enthusiast. The badass EVF is cool, but would have preferred/expected the bling to be brought to the rear screen on a video-centric camera. Debating on whether to add this camera to my bag as a complement to my Zf or a Z8. First world dilemma!
I’m with you on that rear screen, phones have HDR screens and I would like to see a larger HDR screen on the back of cameras. I do understand those screens can use a lot of battery power when used at high brightness outdoors. That may end up on a pro-camera first, Z9 II or something with more battery power. I’m right there with you on adding to my collection or selling one of my cameras to get it.
For disclaimer, I can't afford it lol, but I will definitely buy it when I can. I think It's a right direction from Nikon.
It is a good thing for them to give it some features from the professional line. Sales will be happening in the future and you can snag one then.
Do you plan on picking one up?
Yep! Finally getting that floppy screen plus a lot more. 😀👍🏼
This is expected to be a Big Year of Camera releases so the Holding Power(Sales) of the just released Nikon Z6iii might be tested, sooner than later.
True, a number of releases are still pending however, I believe the Z6 III will do well. There are still a number of DSLR holdouts that will make the jump as well as others from other brands.
An interesting camera ... 🦘
Yup! Roy, since they didn’t give it 2 USB C ports, does that mean you’re not going to get one?
I wonder how much baked in noise reduction are inside the internal raw video of this camera. Nikon raw has some noise reduction and detail filtering in Nikon-raw video files, but what about Proresraw ?
From my experience with the Z8, the RAW files needs some work to clean up the noise, especially in low light. I have a couple of 8K videos I shot, one with the cleaned up files and the other where I explained what I had to do to get the night footage noise free. In Gerald's Undone's video of the Z6 III, during dynamic range testing, he mentioned NRAW does not have any noise reduction applied like what you get from other cameras. I tested ProRes RAW and the footage was grainy however, since it is not supported in Resolve natively, I don't use it.
@@waynerm002 Thank you, I saw an article from EOSHD saying the N-RAW from the Z9 had some noise reduction baked in.
@@aiseurnae5976 I went to look at the article, the images posted looks like what I have seen in high ISO night photos I have taken with my Z8, not what I have seen recording N-RAW. N-RAW does look grainy/noisy at ISO 800, but not as bad as at higher ISO. Check out Cine D's dynamic range test of the Z9, they did one on an early V1 log profile and then another after firmware 3.0 V2, they didn't mention N-RAW having noise reduction added. I don't recall hearing/reading anyone else stating this.
@@waynerm002 Thank you, indeed Cine D never mentionned NR inside N-raw on the Z9 review.
I'm very interested by the Nikon Z6-III because I'm tired of Panasonic, mainly because they offer the same sensor from 2017 (since their S1 released in 2019), even the video quality of the SII is worse than their S1 and S5 because they added a lot of sharpening, detail filtering and chroma noise reduction making the image really not appealing each time I need to crop a bit in my videos.
And also the lack of Panasonic S Pro lenses (the last one was released in 2020) is another issue.
@@aiseurnae5976 I've seen some photos and video from Panasonic cameras as well as Leica and they sort of have a similar look. I started my channel with a Panasonic camcorder and wanted to give the S1H a try but the AF was worse than my Z6 so I didn't bother with it. I like the result from the Z8 in SDR, NLOG or RAW. I want to get back fully into the Nikon system but, I do like using the FX30 as well. The Z lens are great and some of the S versions aren't too pricey. If you do decide to get one, I would suggest the 24-120 f4 S lens over the 24-70 f4 S, you get more range and it's only $100 more. If you can go all in, the 24-70 2.8 S is a really nice one to start with or the 1.8 primes. Nikon optics are really good.
#Nikon don't play, lol, I would get it if I start making more money in photography :)
It’s good that they took some steps to take it up a notch over the current crop of hybrid cameras. The improved the video specs while upping the photography side with some features from Z8/9 and adding and improving on what the Zf delivered.
Nikon wins again
They are certainly making some waves with their Expeed 7 products.
Z6III is too expensive !!!
Why do believe it is too expensive? What price do you think it should reasonably be sold for? Let’s look at what the competitors are doing.
Sony introduced the A7 IV almost 3 years ago with a 33MP sensor but with similar specs to others in the class, for $2500. In the past year other manufacturers have re-released their sensors from their old cameras with updated processors with additional features (4K60 still with crop), while requiring external 6K RAW capabilities. Canon introduced the R6 II a,most 2 years ago with an upgraded processor, it is able to do 46K60 with no crop but, with 6K externally for $2500. Nikon has introduced a new sensor with their latest Expeed 7 processor in the Z6 III, performing closer to their flagship camera, carrying new features from the Zf, while upping the onboard video capabilities to 6K60 RAW internally, being able to record up to 2Hr 5Min in a body with no active cooling, for $2500. I would say it’s priced appropriately for the class.
@@waynerm002 A7 IV is too expensive !!! too ... !!!
@@weikaifan7979 LOL! That was 2021 pricing, where do you think they will price the A7 V? If Sony introduces a new sensor, processor and body to match/beat the Z6 III with 6K60 RAW along with tech from their other cameras, they most likely will raise their price. What’s the price you think is good for these cameras?
@@waynerm002 I am a Nikon photography enthusiast, and I also use Sony as my secondary camera. It’s just that manufacturers have been using squeeze methods to accumulate technology, and they have also been piling up prices, and of course they have taken advantage of the wallets of brand enthusiasts!