The only bad part of civil war spiderman is that it lead to one more day. Plus all the things that happened during the wrap up of evolve or die kind of aren't really bought up alot if at all afterwards. IE the stingers and being able to have um more stickiness like where he stuck the girl to his back without a shirt
If i recal comic 616 spuderman doesnt have stingers like tobey maguire its spmething about being able to manipulate molecules around his skin or smth like that so he really van stick anywhere and everywhere like u cant remove his mask ubless he wants to as itd stick to his face.
@@Eduardo-ll7eg He got them at the end of the evolve or die story which was mixed with a number of different spiderman books at the time art wise (ie marvel knights, the amazing spiderman and regular spiderman) but they all should be the main line one that got the stingers
Personally I thought the unmasking fell flat, sure in a vacuum it’s a good moment for Peter and the tie in explore a lot of Peters big decision. But in context of the comic it made absolutely no sense, the Superhero registration act is explicitly stated that you only need to reveal your identity to the government, so Peter did not need to unmask himself in public. It was all Ironman pressuring him to do it. So both in and out of universe the whole thing was just a giant publicity stunt that unnecessarily made Peter and his family into targets for no reason.
@@tyuk5107 Not worth the sacrifice. It just reset spiderman into a bachelor until they put him back with MJ yet again which begs the question of why? As well as why such a long term circle jerk to change the status quo to then reestablish it? Its like just keep it that way or break it off permanently. But if you know the readers will riot then just make it permanent and dont be a coward and show characters growing up and maturing. Like I understand spiderman being introduced to every new generation but I'm tired of the constant rebooted movie series and the semi reboots in the comics. Like I'll read stand alone stories here and there but I wont stay interested if every 5 or 7 years theres a reset and suddenly all the changes whether good or bad are thrown out the window.
Civil War and the Superhuman Registration Act has always been such a cool thing to read about for me. From a meta standpoint, I like to compare it to how Japanese superhero societies are commonly depicted in manga. Whether it's One Punch Man or My Hero Academia, the heroes are already (for the most part) registered in the government. It's always intriguing to see how two different cultures interact with the problem of heroism differently.
Depends of the kinda of regulations, I don't like the hq because they don't debate what is this regulations specifically, it's just regulation bad or regulation good.
I feel like they kept the story close to Peter Parker because Peter Parker is the average man he’s not a billionaire or a WWII veteran or a super spy he’s just a kid from queens who got his powers by being in the wrong place at the wrong time but he does good anyways he’s a blue collar super hero
I love the irony in how MJ and Aunt May convince him that revealing his identity is the right and responsible thing to do, yet it's that unmasking that led to his marriage being retconned out of existence and him being perpetually stuck in a loop of becoming bankrupt. Irony may not be the right word, tho
@@lonewanderer1328 well... conflict is the core of fiction, and even though the idea of a world where Peter lives happily ever after without any problems may sound pleasing, it would be boring as hell and I doubt many people would be interested in reading it.
The part about Peter trying to reconcile his own thoughts with his idols almost broke me, it's all so well done in how this all affects him and you laid it out beautifully! Definitely not looking forward to what this lead to
This is much deeper than the movies. Everyone sided with Tony, not knowing the full context of the situation. That those who didn't sign up would end up in jail, indefinitely, without any trial or due process and die, even those "superheroes" who didn't have powers. The worst part is Tony KNEW the implications of this law and still went along with it.
Oh, when I said potentially controversial opinion, I meant in relation to the main Civil War event being overrated (because of Mark Millar's writing and structuring), especially in comparison. Odds are, I think the Spider-man Civil War tie-in issues were well-loved and were definitely a highlight for me too. And, yeah, for me a lot of Mark Millar's Marvel works have not aged well. I wish the Ultimates was as good as I had remembered, especially since the Ultimate character designs for the Avengers were great. Buuuut it's just kind of alright. At least Ultimate Spider-man is still amazing! Great new video, btw!
Everything leading up to OMD was absolutely brilliant... and then OMD happened... Also Ron Garney's work on this run made him one of my favourite Spider-Man artists of all time! Just look at what he did during Back in Black for instance! Back in Black is one of my fav stories in general haha
Oh, wow, someone actually mentioning Back in Black; I thought I was the only one who remembered that story, heh heh. But yeah, that was cool...and kinda shocking to see that Spider-Man could've killed Kingpin anytime he wanted over the years 'cause I was naively under the impression Fisk was a legitimate match for Webhead up until then.
It's been a while since a jump scare actually surprised me so props lmao And that knocking at 14:58 seriously had me confused for a minute, never watching your videos with headphones for the sake of my health lol great video
One of major grip I have with the whole civil war storyline is how they put all these unregistered heroes into this basically inescapable prison without outside interference, yet haven’t also gone out to hunt for the criminals.
Yeah this logically should've lead to a decade-long age of supervillains with the superhero community being violently torn in two. Too bad logic is a rarity in comics.
I like how the whole story is about how you cant disobey the law. But then will get lines like "you cant put a nuke on house arrest". Like what some bullets going to do to a reality warper.
Damn, J. Michael Straczynski knows his shit. I'm just getting into comics and, well, when I started reading the first issues of Spider-Man, it felt boring. I mean, it was funny and all, but when I was reading the text I was getting so damn bored because characters would just say stuff they did out loud, and that made me stop reading it. Then I saw your video on USM, and when I started it, I couldn't stop reading. I'm on issue 53 right now. That being said, where would you recommend starting to read the main universe of Spidey? By the way, I watched Owen Likes Comics video on the ultimate universe's downfall, and it's a damn shame that writers thought that being dark and edgy for the sake of being dark and edgy was more "grounded". Richard Parker literally summed up the whole ultimate universe, lmfao. Bendis had a good strategy. He made his ultimate run more grounded by getting a shitload of stuff on Peter, and instead of giving up, he made hope guide Peter to be strong. Genius.
Ultimate spiderman is great stick with it but if u want to read main universe spidey then read dan slotts run it is the absolute best. Not boring at all.
@@BowmansWorld Yeah, I was planning to finish USM first. But there aren't many issues, so I'm going to probably finish it pretty fast. Thanks and good luck.
@@Sagee_ Both are pretty short, but they're also the worst stories to come out of the comic. I'd recommend you check out the rest of Stan Lee's original run, the dialogue gets better as time goes on, but if you can't stick with it then JMS's run is also great and more modern.
I'd watch the video about Speedball becoming Penance. He got a lot of crap for being edgy and emo, which is simply unjustified. Anytime a hero endures some tragedy it seems to just be labeled that way.
I agree. I recently watched the video on Speedball and I guess I can see where people are getting edgy and emo from, but I've always associated those phrases with teens who haven't actually gone through anything to make them like that. But for a hero like Speedball (for heroes in general) how else are you supposed to be after what you've done and been through?
The Civil War storyline made me so damn invested in Spider-Mans story to a degree of never before, I thought we were gonna see the beginning of a new era of comics and a new more mature era of Spider-Man. Then One More Day happened.
This channel is so fantastic. I occasionally go through bouts of Spider Man obsession and this channel helped prevent me from spending WAY too much money on more comics after NWH made my Spidey obsession tingle.
Alex, your channel is easily my favorite comic book related channel. You really feel different, fresh and passionate. Thanks for all the time and energy you put into your work :) I for one really appreciate it
Sometimes, a part of me wishes they kept major sequences like this in production, so even a younger generation could experience the story. Then I realize, without the rest of the saga building up the characters, with any point in the timeline being prioritized too greatly over the rest, it would lose some of its meaning.
As someone who has never read the comics, I've been enjoying these Spidey videos immensely. That fourth wall break about MJ's arm is absolutely hilarious to me, and I'm like you, where I can't stand Dead Pool's style of doing it.
I really like that you share your perspective on your favorite stories and I hope you continue to do more content like this whenever you feel like it.❤️
I really like that while in the main event Iron Man was satanized & antagonized a lot, the Tie-ins actually respected him & his POV, showing how much he struggled while living the hell it was this event for him & how much regret he feels for every decision he makes, SPECIALLY the one that revolved around Happy Hogan 💔
I've been looking for this type of video for so long, like you basically explain what the comic is and why it's good while also making jokes that are funny for people who both have and have not read the comics, keep it up dude!
Really digging this channel. There’s no shortage of “dudes recapping the comics” videos, but the way you intercut your own jokes, opinions, personality and the way you pick and choose what to highlight from the story, it’s very refreshing. You clearly love the material but don’t worship it and know how to be critical and when to take the piss. Gonna go binge!
Man, I just got into comics this year after binging the MCU and Civil War was the first big event I read, completely read. And while some of the smaller issues could've easily been ignored, I'm kinda glad I read most of the tie-ins because a lot of them add so much to the story.
I love how this then leads to Spider-Man back in black. I remember reading the comic when I was younger. Watching Peter get violent trying to find out who did it. Then once he did he goes and fights Fisk in prison. Even gets naked at one point to show he doesn’t need the suit.
The greatest piece of synergy within Marvel Comics is Civil War and Annihilation happening together. Just a moment of complete Hell broken loose across the entire universe.
So many comic channels feel like they’re either just recapping the stories from reading a wiki and never actually read the comic. I like how you’ve actually read the comics and are a fan, it really comes across as genuine love and interest. I also grew up reading DC and Marvel in this period. Have you ever read the Scarlet Spider run by Christos Gage I think. That and Superior Foes of Spider-Man are great spinoff books.
Your youtube channel is exactly what I've been looking for in a channel all my life. Comics books? Spider-Man specifically? A calming voice? Great editing and humor? And a JMS enjoyer???? You, sir, are amazing.
This might be a hot take, but I personally think that the tie-ins for Civil War were better than the main issues. Seeing all the interpersonal dynamics get brought to light, relationships change, and the consequences every action had was all a good read.
when i saw how many views this video had i was genuinely surprised on how low it was compared to how many I thought it mustve had. This was a great video to learn a little bit more spidey lore. Keep making videos like these they slap
I got recommended your Ultimate Spider-Man video a few weeks ago and since then I've watched all your other videos, you're so well spoken in that chill, sit down and talk about what you like with friends since. Keep it up my guy. Also the Nakey Jakey song as an outro, hell yeah.
The story is amazing. Although there are things I can nitpick here and there about this story, and where it eventually leads us to, the story for spider-man himself is amazing. It's a great demonstration of who is his as a character and where he stands on the right and wrong scale law vs morality wise. It encapsulates emotion and moral obligation to a wide level and I love it for that.
There have been plenty of Spider-Man who have worked with others. Take Spider-Man and his fantastic friends. Hell, look at most cartoons now. All these avengers and people exist in the world and although people cry about accuracy. Those same guys screeching about it say that they don’t like Toms first movies because they feel too small scale. Everyone just recites what they hear the majority shouting. When they say Peter is suppose to be a nerd or this super nice kid. that isn’t true, Peter was an doutsider who got bullied who when he received his power bullied his bullies. He would think to himself how he doesn’t care if random strangers die and all these assholeish things, but it all changed after his uncle died. It took him time to grow and even then he still fell back into those earlier mindsets because people don’t just change right away. Also him being quipy I’ve read that it’s because it helps him with his fear and maybe that’s true now, but in the comics he did it to fuck with his enemies. He literally talked shit to get them to become emotional and make mistakes. Everyone thinks they know Peter but there are so many variations that it doesn’t matter.
@@KrisTermincho ofc well first I would like to say that High School Spider-Man is absolutely nothing like the Raimi movies. But if we look past that Peter’s arc in both the early days and in the MCU is about a boy finally becoming a man. Peter in the comics has a lot of similarities to MCU Spider-Man except for the anger, but the tone they both share is the same. Both are kinda like sitcoms that take on humorous stories with sprinkles of serious moments. For example in issue 8, Peter and Flash get into an argument which leads to the teacher telling them to settle things in a boxing match which ends with Peter destroying Flash. As for civil war Peter (before Aunt May gets shot) sees Tony almost as a father because of all the kind things Tony has done for him up until that point. The only reason why MCU Spider-Man doesn’t betray Tony is because he had no idea what was really going on. MCU Spider-Man overall is about a teen struggling with confidence in himself learning that he has the power to surpass everyone. It is the superhero version of puberty. Honestly if you take Andrew’s characterization of Spider-Man and combine it with the arc of MCU Spider-Man you get the most accurate Spider-Man to date even surpassing PS4 or Spectacular. If I didn’t convince you I am sorry I recommend Implicitly Pretentious, he has a way better way of explaining everything.
You deserve every ounce of love from your fans because your content is amazing. Love the editing (FNaF2 jumpscare got me), love your deep dives and your energy
You need to do a follow up talking about what happens inbetween this a O.M.D. because that has the best example of why you should fear Spider-Man, and it's fuckin great
Really well put together, I like how you summarized or put the point across without diving so deep that it’s overwhelming or potentially robs the experience for people reading it for the first time. Really good stuff.
I can't believe I found this channel a few days ago and kept rewatching your great vids, while being excited for a new one to come out. Great Vid! Can't wait to see more!
One of my favorite Spider-Man stories is happy birthday, but i also love this story cause punisher saves him and also later on when aunt may gets shot and peter goes to fisk in the prison
Sometimes it feels like the entire Civil War was meant to f*ck Peter up, as the registration act was undone at the end of the The Dark Reign. Cap who was the main casualty of the event, got resurrected. And all the other heroes that died o were deeply affected, were b list heroes at best (so i mean who cares).
It's not referenced all that much either. Marvel's world seems to have amnesia or some shit seeing as how nobody really references anything unless it's like "I haven't seen you since the last issue". It sucks because there really isn't an event that really sticks.
@@hyperion3145 Thats not true. The big marvel events are referenced all the time. Both secret wars, the infinity trilogy, Galactus, genosha and the kree skrull war are brought up constantly. The issue with civil war specifically is that it’s a product of it’s time. Both in sense of its political themes and in how marvel’s editorial worked around that time. That’s why writers avoid it nowadays. Also the tony from civil war (and most of the 2000’s) basically “died” and the pre extremis tony is the one that kept on going.
This video reminded me of how amazing the civil war comic series was and how much of a tragedy it was that it got reduced to only one movie in the MCU.
Ever since your Wall vid (and yes I did start out with your 55 damn minute video) I got hooked and backtracked to binge all your other vids immediately. Just wanted to say this video is incredible. Your presentation, humour and wholehearted passion radiates out from this l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶b̶a̶l̶l̶'̶s̶ ̶b̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ and is so utterly contagious. Sent this to all my friends and can't wait to say I've been here before your 100K and more :D
JMS is my favorite Spider-Man writer and I loved the Civil War tie-ins. It was so well written. I already loved JMS since he was a writer on The Real Ghostbusters and I grew up with that cartoon.
Also big shame we will never see this story adapted in a movie. Not only civil war already exist but spider-man will always be brought back to be a young adult/ kid
you're the reason i started reading the ultimate comics and I'm loving it I'm on volume 4 also i loved the civil war comics but i have to revisit it's been almost a year been here for a few months last time i checked your channel was a week ago, you were at 2k sub sand now you're already at 6k HOOOOW i could barely get 200 subs on my channel.
It’s kind of ironic. At the start of the Civil War, Iron Man compromises on his beliefs to preserve the future, and Captain America stands his ground to protect people. Then at the end of the war, Captain America compromises his ideals to protect people and Iron Man stands his ground to protect the future. He still believes he did the right thing, but he secretly says that losing Cap made it not worth it. And then there’s Spider-Man. He trusts his father figure to take care of his family, and not betray his trust, so he compromises to lead by example and ensure a better future. But then Tony ropes him into betraying his friends and playing with things he doesn’t understand. Not only does his monster with Thor’s face kill a friend, but Tony treats good people like monsters in a cage. And he makes Peter complicit in all of this. And he is too stubborn to even apologize for it. Peter can’t stand it anymore. So he tells the truth and runs. And his family suffers for it. And when he has no one to help him when he needs it the most, he turns to Tony one last time. He even brings up how Tony was like a father to him, and that this was all his fault. And Tony still pushes him away because he’s afraid that everything he’s done will unravel if he admits he was wrong and people see it.
this is an excellent deep dive into the spider-man comics, and i enjoy your pacing, your sense of humour and the skill of the editing so many comics strips to showcase the points of the story.
i recall hearing that civil war was originally an ultimate universe story. it makes sense, not just because millar was writing the mini-series, but the political allegories fit thematically with the ultimates, and the premise makes more sense in a world where superheroes are still a relatively new thing. also there's this newspaper in argentina called "el clarin" (which is what the daily bugle is called in the spanish dub of the raimi movies lol) that released a collection of spidey comics back in 2009. one of those stories was civil war and yeah, spider-man introduced me to the word "porn" lmao.
I love seeing channels that have blown up and going back to watch videos from when they were smaller. It's a trip to think you haven't always had these subs, your videos are well made and there's nowhere to go but up :)
i love your sense of humor!! it's very unlike other channels talking about comics stuff and appreciate the inclusion of Jakie in the end, his music is soo good
Are you going to cover Back in Black? I really love when Spidey gets angry, it doesn’t happen that much anymore. But when he does, it gives us some great stories.
They should't have done One More Day, at all... It'd be wise to see a mature Peter Parker deal with the death of a loved one and not just retcon decades of development.
the fact the wall video happened :.)
the fact that you got pinned :.)
i can't fucking believe he's been foreshadowing it for months
and it was so good :.)
It was so moving as well... unlike a Wall.
I'm sorry I couldn't help myself, I have less boundaries than the average building.
@@MisterMuffinut whywhywhywhywhywhywhywhywhywhy
The only bad part of civil war spiderman is that it lead to one more day. Plus all the things that happened during the wrap up of evolve or die kind of aren't really bought up alot if at all afterwards. IE the stingers and being able to have um more stickiness like where he stuck the girl to his back without a shirt
If i recal comic 616 spuderman doesnt have stingers like tobey maguire its spmething about being able to manipulate molecules around his skin or smth like that so he really van stick anywhere and everywhere like u cant remove his mask ubless he wants to as itd stick to his face.
@@Eduardo-ll7eg He got them at the end of the evolve or die story which was mixed with a number of different spiderman books at the time art wise (ie marvel knights, the amazing spiderman and regular spiderman) but they all should be the main line one that got the stingers
Personally I thought the unmasking fell flat, sure in a vacuum it’s a good moment for Peter and the tie in explore a lot of Peters big decision. But in context of the comic it made absolutely no sense, the Superhero registration act is explicitly stated that you only need to reveal your identity to the government, so Peter did not need to unmask himself in public. It was all Ironman pressuring him to do it. So both in and out of universe the whole thing was just a giant publicity stunt that unnecessarily made Peter and his family into targets for no reason.
Atleast one more day got us no way home as a movie
@@tyuk5107 Not worth the sacrifice. It just reset spiderman into a bachelor until they put him back with MJ yet again which begs the question of why? As well as why such a long term circle jerk to change the status quo to then reestablish it? Its like just keep it that way or break it off permanently. But if you know the readers will riot then just make it permanent and dont be a coward and show characters growing up and maturing. Like I understand spiderman being introduced to every new generation but I'm tired of the constant rebooted movie series and the semi reboots in the comics. Like I'll read stand alone stories here and there but I wont stay interested if every 5 or 7 years theres a reset and suddenly all the changes whether good or bad are thrown out the window.
"We are not here to talk about war criminals" caught me off guard.
Keep it up love your videos
Joe Quesada is truly the greatest war criminal of all.
fiiiiiirst
Civil War and the Superhuman Registration Act has always been such a cool thing to read about for me. From a meta standpoint, I like to compare it to how Japanese superhero societies are commonly depicted in manga. Whether it's One Punch Man or My Hero Academia, the heroes are already (for the most part) registered in the government. It's always intriguing to see how two different cultures interact with the problem of heroism differently.
Yes I always looked at my hero world as one where the registration worked
@@benja4707 hahaha have you read the My Hero Academia manga?
Depends of the kinda of regulations, I don't like the hq because they don't debate what is this regulations specifically, it's just regulation bad or regulation good.
@@filiperosa7496 hw?
@@justacatwithasadface2692 HQ I mean
This channel is actually kinda cool. You should do a series of obscure marvel stories/ writers from this period.
this period is my favourite so I can definitely rustle up a few videos for ya
@@alexlennen This was the best period in marvel history for me.
@@alexlennen It was my fav as well, I pretty much stopped buying singles after Slott took over.
@@alexlennen Yeah, if you make this a series it will be easier to search and be more accessable. Could help.
Honestly these groups of years was my all time favorite for really everything in terms of media.
I would say “The kid who took pictures of Spider-Man” is his most mature story.Solid story though
that one's a real tearjerker bro
Wait I’m trying to find this story but I can’t find it is it’s name exactly the kid who took pictures of spider man
@@Ghostofcalmaity The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man
@@a_ferns23 oh then I’ve already read that one and yeah it’s pretty depressing
Is that the one with the sick kid?
I feel like they kept the story close to Peter Parker because Peter Parker is the average man he’s not a billionaire or a WWII veteran or a super spy he’s just a kid from queens who got his powers by being in the wrong place at the wrong time but he does good anyways he’s a blue collar super hero
cc a xx😅😅😊
He got his powers because he was chosen
Don’t you mean the right place at the right time
I love the irony in how MJ and Aunt May convince him that revealing his identity is the right and responsible thing to do, yet it's that unmasking that led to his marriage being retconned out of existence and him being perpetually stuck in a loop of becoming bankrupt.
Irony may not be the right word, tho
Tragic irony
I fecking hate marvel at times. That just WON'T let peter and mj be happy together for a sustained amount of time in the comics
@@lonewanderer1328 Right? It's annoying at this point. I want them to be together and have a family. But Marvel keeps saying no.
@@lonewanderer1328 spiderman is their punching bag
@@lonewanderer1328 well... conflict is the core of fiction, and even though the idea of a world where Peter lives happily ever after without any problems may sound pleasing, it would be boring as hell and I doubt many people would be interested in reading it.
The part about Peter trying to reconcile his own thoughts with his idols almost broke me, it's all so well done in how this all affects him and you laid it out beautifully! Definitely not looking forward to what this lead to
This is much deeper than the movies. Everyone sided with Tony, not knowing the full context of the situation. That those who didn't sign up would end up in jail, indefinitely, without any trial or due process and die, even those "superheroes" who didn't have powers. The worst part is Tony KNEW the implications of this law and still went along with it.
Since in the comics the super hero community is a lot bigger the idea of a civil war works a lot better
Oh, when I said potentially controversial opinion, I meant in relation to the main Civil War event being overrated (because of Mark Millar's writing and structuring), especially in comparison. Odds are, I think the Spider-man Civil War tie-in issues were well-loved and were definitely a highlight for me too. And, yeah, for me a lot of Mark Millar's Marvel works have not aged well. I wish the Ultimates was as good as I had remembered, especially since the Ultimate character designs for the Avengers were great. Buuuut it's just kind of alright. At least Ultimate Spider-man is still amazing! Great new video, btw!
ok thank god I thought I was gonna get flamed, thanks for your support man❤️
Everything leading up to OMD was absolutely brilliant... and then OMD happened... Also Ron Garney's work on this run made him one of my favourite Spider-Man artists of all time! Just look at what he did during Back in Black for instance! Back in Black is one of my fav stories in general haha
Everything? Including Sins Past?
Oh, wow, someone actually mentioning Back in Black; I thought I was the only one who remembered that story, heh heh. But yeah, that was cool...and kinda shocking to see that Spider-Man could've killed Kingpin anytime he wanted over the years 'cause I was naively under the impression Fisk was a legitimate match for Webhead up until then.
They should make an alternate storyline where OMD never happens
@@seantaylor424 Spider-Man holds back against his entire rogues gallery aside from maybe Venom. Just the sheer amount he holds back is crazy too.
It's been a while since a jump scare actually surprised me so props lmao
And that knocking at 14:58 seriously had me confused for a minute, never watching your videos with headphones for the sake of my health lol great video
SAME i had to replay that shit for my sanity
Based Metabee pfp
the knocking i heard came from the window right behind me. at night. no lights. i also live on the 17th floor jajajaja
@@julioforessi1336 bro me too
For real! My soul left my body for a full 10 seconds.. 💀
This makes much more sense than Peter's storyline within the Civil War mini series
One of major grip I have with the whole civil war storyline is how they put all these unregistered heroes into this basically inescapable prison without outside interference, yet haven’t also gone out to hunt for the criminals.
Yeah this logically should've lead to a decade-long age of supervillains with the superhero community being violently torn in two.
Too bad logic is a rarity in comics.
I like how the whole story is about how you cant disobey the law. But then will get lines like "you cant put a nuke on house arrest". Like what some bullets going to do to a reality warper.
im happy to see your content continue to find more of an audience. keep this up and you’ll have a bright future for your channel.
thank you Zach
Damn, J. Michael Straczynski knows his shit. I'm just getting into comics and, well, when I started reading the first issues of Spider-Man, it felt boring. I mean, it was funny and all, but when I was reading the text I was getting so damn bored because characters would just say stuff they did out loud, and that made me stop reading it. Then I saw your video on USM, and when I started it, I couldn't stop reading. I'm on issue 53 right now. That being said, where would you recommend starting to read the main universe of Spidey?
By the way, I watched Owen Likes Comics video on the ultimate universe's downfall, and it's a damn shame that writers thought that being dark and edgy for the sake of being dark and edgy was more "grounded". Richard Parker literally summed up the whole ultimate universe, lmfao. Bendis had a good strategy. He made his ultimate run more grounded by getting a shitload of stuff on Peter, and instead of giving up, he made hope guide Peter to be strong. Genius.
Ultimate spiderman is great stick with it but if u want to read main universe spidey then read dan slotts run it is the absolute best. Not boring at all.
@@BowmansWorld Yeah, I was planning to finish USM first. But there aren't many issues, so I'm going to probably finish it pretty fast. Thanks and good luck.
The Stan-Romita Sr run and the JMS-Romita Jr run are the best in my opinion...just avoid Sins Past and OMD
@@Jose-se9pu I want to check OMD and sins past, NGL. it's not that big right?
@@Sagee_ Both are pretty short, but they're also the worst stories to come out of the comic. I'd recommend you check out the rest of Stan Lee's original run, the dialogue gets better as time goes on, but if you can't stick with it then JMS's run is also great and more modern.
I'd watch the video about Speedball becoming Penance. He got a lot of crap for being edgy and emo, which is simply unjustified. Anytime a hero endures some tragedy it seems to just be labeled that way.
Anyone who sees the tragedy of life for what it is is labeled that way.
@@Dunge0n It is bravery to remain optimistic. It is very easy to be pessimistic. And yes, seeing life in a negative way constantly is edgy and emo.
I agree. I recently watched the video on Speedball and I guess I can see where people are getting edgy and emo from, but I've always associated those phrases with teens who haven't actually gone through anything to make them like that. But for a hero like Speedball (for heroes in general) how else are you supposed to be after what you've done and been through?
I think it's the suit aesthetic and the pain brings power
@@jakubrejak1114 It's only a world view, same can be said that being optimistic is being naive. We all deal with our shit our own way.
The Civil War storyline made me so damn invested in Spider-Mans story to a degree of never before, I thought we were gonna see the beginning of a new era of comics and a new more mature era of Spider-Man.
Then One More Day happened.
Dude holy shit, so glad that I found your channel. Definitely need more channels in the community like yours
thank you so much🙏 yes I am hard to find, what with my vague name and all
This channel is so fantastic. I occasionally go through bouts of Spider Man obsession and this channel helped prevent me from spending WAY too much money on more comics after NWH made my Spidey obsession tingle.
Your wallet is under my protection
Alex, your channel is easily my favorite comic book related channel. You really feel different, fresh and passionate. Thanks for all the time and energy you put into your work :) I for one really appreciate it
thank you :)
The world needs more comic channels that expands on the context and subcontext in these awesome stories. I’m subbed guy 👍
Sometimes, a part of me wishes they kept major sequences like this in production, so even a younger generation could experience the story. Then I realize, without the rest of the saga building up the characters, with any point in the timeline being prioritized too greatly over the rest, it would lose some of its meaning.
As someone who has never read the comics, I've been enjoying these Spidey videos immensely. That fourth wall break about MJ's arm is absolutely hilarious to me, and I'm like you, where I can't stand Dead Pool's style of doing it.
I really like that you share your perspective on your favorite stories and I hope you continue to do more content like this whenever you feel like it.❤️
I really like that while in the main event Iron Man was satanized & antagonized a lot, the Tie-ins actually respected him & his POV, showing how much he struggled while living the hell it was this event for him & how much regret he feels for every decision he makes, SPECIALLY the one that revolved around Happy Hogan 💔
I've been looking for this type of video for so long, like you basically explain what the comic is and why it's good while also making jokes that are funny for people who both have and have not read the comics, keep it up dude!
Just discovered this channel and this video, this story of Spiderman is more mature than I thought. Good stuff.
Really digging this channel. There’s no shortage of “dudes recapping the comics” videos, but the way you intercut your own jokes, opinions, personality and the way you pick and choose what to highlight from the story, it’s very refreshing. You clearly love the material but don’t worship it and know how to be critical and when to take the piss. Gonna go binge!
This channel's Spider-man videos are genuinely some of the best written comic book related videos on RUclips
Man, I just got into comics this year after binging the MCU and Civil War was the first big event I read, completely read. And while some of the smaller issues could've easily been ignored, I'm kinda glad I read most of the tie-ins because a lot of them add so much to the story.
Even though you hurt my ears with that jump scare, you still earned yourself a subscriber. Keep up the good work.
I love how this then leads to Spider-Man back in black. I remember reading the comic when I was younger. Watching Peter get violent trying to find out who did it. Then once he did he goes and fights Fisk in prison. Even gets naked at one point to show he doesn’t need the suit.
He still had his pants
@@playerback7722 so we just need to get his pants...
The greatest piece of synergy within Marvel Comics is Civil War and Annihilation happening together. Just a moment of complete Hell broken loose across the entire universe.
So many comic channels feel like they’re either just recapping the stories from reading a wiki and never actually read the comic.
I like how you’ve actually read the comics and are a fan, it really comes across as genuine love and interest. I also grew up reading DC and Marvel in this period.
Have you ever read the Scarlet Spider run by Christos Gage I think. That and Superior Foes of Spider-Man are great spinoff books.
My favorite part was when Reed thought he had Spiderman figured out and then Spiderman kicks the shit out of him.
Same. I loved when Spider-Man corrected him.
Reed: "Amazing."
*Spidey swing kicks him through a window*
Spider-Man: "Spectacular."
Your youtube channel is exactly what I've been looking for in a channel all my life. Comics books? Spider-Man specifically? A calming voice? Great editing and humor? And a JMS enjoyer???? You, sir, are amazing.
This might be a hot take, but I personally think that the tie-ins for Civil War were better than the main issues. Seeing all the interpersonal dynamics get brought to light, relationships change, and the consequences every action had was all a good read.
Thank you for helping me break through the mundane repetition of life allowing me to listen to the opinions of a friend who also enjoys comic books
Keep making videos on what you’re passionate about & what interests you. The quality and effort is evident and shows!
when i saw how many views this video had i was genuinely surprised on how low it was compared to how many I thought it mustve had. This was a great video to learn a little bit more spidey lore. Keep making videos like these they slap
Thank you Ches I appreciate it❤️
I can't even say I'm particularly into marvel, comics or otherwise, and I find these analyses genuinely fascinating.
I got recommended your Ultimate Spider-Man video a few weeks ago and since then I've watched all your other videos, you're so well spoken in that chill, sit down and talk about what you like with friends since. Keep it up my guy. Also the Nakey Jakey song as an outro, hell yeah.
thank you so much
The story is amazing. Although there are things I can nitpick here and there about this story, and where it eventually leads us to, the story for spider-man himself is amazing. It's a great demonstration of who is his as a character and where he stands on the right and wrong scale law vs morality wise. It encapsulates emotion and moral obligation to a wide level and I love it for that.
When people say MCU spider-man is not accurate I look at arcs like this and early Ditko and become really confused.
could you elaborate? (cause i’m one of those who think he isn’t accurate)
There have been plenty of Spider-Man who have worked with others. Take Spider-Man and his fantastic friends. Hell, look at most cartoons now. All these avengers and people exist in the world and although people cry about accuracy. Those same guys screeching about it say that they don’t like Toms first movies because they feel too small scale. Everyone just recites what they hear the majority shouting.
When they say Peter is suppose to be a nerd or this super nice kid. that isn’t true, Peter was an doutsider who got bullied who when he received his power bullied his bullies. He would think to himself how he doesn’t care if random strangers die and all these assholeish things, but it all changed after his uncle died. It took him time to grow and even then he still fell back into those earlier mindsets because people don’t just change right away. Also him being quipy I’ve read that it’s because it helps him with his fear and maybe that’s true now, but in the comics he did it to fuck with his enemies. He literally talked shit to get them to become emotional and make mistakes. Everyone thinks they know Peter but there are so many variations that it doesn’t matter.
@@KrisTermincho ofc well first I would like to say that High School Spider-Man is absolutely nothing like the Raimi movies. But if we look past that Peter’s arc in both the early days and in the MCU is about a boy finally becoming a man. Peter in the comics has a lot of similarities to MCU Spider-Man except for the anger, but the tone they both share is the same. Both are kinda like sitcoms that take on humorous stories with sprinkles of serious moments. For example in issue 8, Peter and Flash get into an argument which leads to the teacher telling them to settle things in a boxing match which ends with Peter destroying Flash. As for civil war Peter (before Aunt May gets shot) sees Tony almost as a father because of all the kind things Tony has done for him up until that point. The only reason why MCU Spider-Man doesn’t betray Tony is because he had no idea what was really going on. MCU Spider-Man overall is about a teen struggling with confidence in himself learning that he has the power to surpass everyone. It is the superhero version of puberty. Honestly if you take Andrew’s characterization of Spider-Man and combine it with the arc of MCU Spider-Man you get the most accurate Spider-Man to date even surpassing PS4 or Spectacular. If I didn’t convince you I am sorry I recommend Implicitly Pretentious, he has a way better way of explaining everything.
You deserve every ounce of love from your fans because your content is amazing. Love the editing (FNaF2 jumpscare got me), love your deep dives and your energy
You need to do a follow up talking about what happens inbetween this a O.M.D. because that has the best example of why you should fear Spider-Man, and it's fuckin great
One of my favorite Green Goblin moments of all time is his, "You broke the rules!" hysteric meltdown in prison when Spiderman un-masked.
You’re one of the only channels I hit the bell on. I wanna watch everything cuz it never sucks. Thanks, mate
Really well put together, I like how you summarized or put the point across without diving so deep that it’s overwhelming or potentially robs the experience for people reading it for the first time. Really good stuff.
I've never been really into comics but I like watching these comic videos can't wait for part 2!
I can't believe I found this channel a few days ago and kept rewatching your great vids, while being excited for a new one to come out. Great Vid! Can't wait to see more!
One of my favorite Spider-Man stories is happy birthday, but i also love this story cause punisher saves him and also later on when aunt may gets shot and peter goes to fisk in the prison
14:55 idk how the sound quality could be that good enough to actually scare tf out of me, thinking someone just came to assassinate my aunt May and I
I’ve never wanted to read comics before this, always loved the movies but now I need to read this comic. Great video! Thank you
Alex Gotta Be My Favourite Content Creator Keep It Up Pal 🧡
First time I read this story was very early in comic collecting and it definitely went over my head! Loved the video man, definitely one to revisit 🤙
currently my favorite channel i love your takes on these iconic stories
Man you've got some quality content. I actually really enjoyed this all the way through, you rock bro
That door knock actually just scared the hell out of me I’ve never been more scared in my life jesus
The way you summarize these issues are refreshing af. Had to hit that notif bell!
Finally a comic book channel that isn’t just “GUYS LOOK SPIDER MAN!,!1!1!1!”
tbh half of my waking life is just me shouting LOOK SPIDER-MAN!!!!
I love your videos so far man, your essays are so incredibly written I’m always excited to see what you post next man!!
Sometimes it feels like the entire Civil War was meant to f*ck Peter up, as the registration act was undone at the end of the The Dark Reign.
Cap who was the main casualty of the event, got resurrected.
And all the other heroes that died o were deeply affected, were b list heroes at best (so i mean who cares).
It's not referenced all that much either. Marvel's world seems to have amnesia or some shit seeing as how nobody really references anything unless it's like "I haven't seen you since the last issue". It sucks because there really isn't an event that really sticks.
@@hyperion3145
Thats not true. The big marvel events are referenced all the time. Both secret wars, the infinity trilogy, Galactus, genosha and the kree skrull war are brought up constantly. The issue with civil war specifically is that it’s a product of it’s time. Both in sense of its political themes and in how marvel’s editorial worked around that time. That’s why writers avoid it nowadays. Also the tony from civil war (and most of the 2000’s) basically “died” and the pre extremis tony is the one that kept on going.
I want more videos of this man because he is so epic
it's so great how large you've grown in the last few months to a year. really proud of you man
This video reminded me of how amazing the civil war comic series was and how much of a tragedy it was that it got reduced to only one movie in the MCU.
that nocking sound at 14:55 almost killed me, I thought there was someone at my window jesus christ
Ever since your Wall vid (and yes I did start out with your 55 damn minute video) I got hooked and backtracked to binge all your other vids immediately. Just wanted to say this video is incredible. Your presentation, humour and wholehearted passion radiates out from this l̶i̶k̶e̶ ̶s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶b̶a̶l̶l̶'̶s̶ ̶b̶l̶a̶s̶t̶ and is so utterly contagious. Sent this to all my friends and can't wait to say I've been here before your 100K and more :D
JMS is my favorite Spider-Man writer and I loved the Civil War tie-ins. It was so well written.
I already loved JMS since he was a writer on The Real Ghostbusters and I grew up with that cartoon.
Great vid. I love this story and I’m glad you’re giving it the recognition it deserves.
FINALLY someone talks about spidey civil war! Probably one of the best spider-man stories ever, makes me like adult sm more than high school sm
Also big shame we will never see this story adapted in a movie. Not only civil war already exist but spider-man will always be brought back to be a young adult/ kid
you're the reason i started reading the ultimate comics and I'm loving it
I'm on volume 4
also i loved the civil war comics but i have to revisit it's been almost a year
been here for a few months last time i checked your channel was a week ago, you were at 2k sub sand now you're already at 6k
HOOOOW
i could barely get 200 subs on my channel.
thank you for the support❤️
Bro I am so happy I found this channel🔥🔥
It’s kind of ironic. At the start of the Civil War, Iron Man compromises on his beliefs to preserve the future, and Captain America stands his ground to protect people.
Then at the end of the war, Captain America compromises his ideals to protect people and Iron Man stands his ground to protect the future. He still believes he did the right thing, but he secretly says that losing Cap made it not worth it.
And then there’s Spider-Man. He trusts his father figure to take care of his family, and not betray his trust, so he compromises to lead by example and ensure a better future. But then Tony ropes him into betraying his friends and playing with things he doesn’t understand. Not only does his monster with Thor’s face kill a friend, but Tony treats good people like monsters in a cage. And he makes Peter complicit in all of this. And he is too stubborn to even apologize for it.
Peter can’t stand it anymore. So he tells the truth and runs. And his family suffers for it. And when he has no one to help him when he needs it the most, he turns to Tony one last time. He even brings up how Tony was like a father to him, and that this was all his fault. And Tony still pushes him away because he’s afraid that everything he’s done will unravel if he admits he was wrong and people see it.
Ight imma need videos on coming home and revelations real quick, ace videos my man
mostly covered in my JMS video, just not in as much depth as this one
I wasn't even aware of this tie in, I only ever read the mini series. also that jumpscare got me fml
this is an excellent deep dive into the spider-man comics, and i enjoy your pacing, your sense of humour and the skill of the editing so many comics strips to showcase the points of the story.
i recall hearing that civil war was originally an ultimate universe story. it makes sense, not just because millar was writing the mini-series, but the political allegories fit thematically with the ultimates, and the premise makes more sense in a world where superheroes are still a relatively new thing.
also there's this newspaper in argentina called "el clarin" (which is what the daily bugle is called in the spanish dub of the raimi movies lol) that released a collection of spidey comics back in 2009.
one of those stories was civil war and yeah, spider-man introduced me to the word "porn" lmao.
2 years or not. this man deserves the sub for his passion
Can't wait for the extremely detailed 10+ hour brick wall video essay
oh it's gonna be my best work yet
it is 3am, and that knock at 14:52 just scared the life out of me
I tabbed out for less than 2 seconds and within that small interval that fucking joe quesada jumpscare almost killed me.
June 15th, the wall video has double the views, and it deserves every single one of those. One of my favourite videos ever.
And THIS is why the MCU should’ve actually introduced Spider-Man before making civil war.
I love seeing channels that have blown up and going back to watch videos from when they were smaller. It's a trip to think you haven't always had these subs, your videos are well made and there's nowhere to go but up :)
You can see where the mcu took inspiration, it’s just their one new day was good
surround sound headphones and the knock after the goblin thing scared the everliving shit outta me
I love this channel lol
BRO HOLY FUCK THAT JUMPSCARED SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME BRO
bro I'm so sorry, I couldn't help myself when I thought of the potential suffering I could cause
Its alr lolll
The choice of jakey music at the end for Brick Wall was perfect. Love your videos Alex, keep em up. You could easily get big.
This is one of the best channels i have ever seen but was that jumpscare at 11:10 really necessary?
Great video btw :)
It’s not even there.
@@ZUUL_93 yeah they're crazy right?
@@alexlennen I’m thinking the thumbnail must have glitched out, and it could be based on their shitty phones/PC to watch it? Idk
i love your sense of humor!! it's very unlike other channels talking about comics stuff
and appreciate the inclusion of Jakie in the end, his music is soo good
Are you going to cover Back in Black? I really love when Spidey gets angry, it doesn’t happen that much anymore. But when he does, it gives us some great stories.
yeah probably at some point
Man we gotta see your reactions to the other battles. Seeing someone whose never seen Star wars react to the duels is awesome.
the jumpscare was uncalled for
Yep
For a new RUclipsr i love the quality of your videos, i subbed bc of your last spiderman post and it was one of the best ones I've seen honestly
They should't have done One More Day, at all...
It'd be wise to see a mature Peter Parker deal with the death of a loved one and not just retcon decades of development.
thanks for uploading man. always look forward to your videos. it’s been a rough day. gonna sit back, relax, and watch this.
hope you enjoy it man, lemme know if you stay relaxed during the whole video though lol
@@alexlennen holy shit i actually flinched lmaooo
@@satvrnus you have my sincerest apologies