"DESTINY IS MANSPLAINING" - Debate Gets Personal, Moderator Steps In...
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- DEBATE: Destiny gets accused of mansplaining in a heated Rittenhouse debate ft. Heem, Rob Noerr, Shark3ozero, Progressive Brat, DoctorRedPill, KFLOGAN1875...
Date: 14 Nov, 2021
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00:00:00 Teaser / Intro
00:01:34 Was Kyle fake crying?
00:12:30 I'm not going to justify my thoughts
00:16:44 Jacob Blake misinformation led to Kenosha riots
00:24:04 cops couldn't stop the riots
00:25:29 We rightfully scorn conservatives BUT...
00:30:55 Desperate to turn Rittenhouse into a villian
00:32:31 Kyle at the bar after Kenosha
00:40:17 Attacking a politican for doing politics?
00:42:48 US narrative on cops is too extreme
00:52:03 "In a video game" meme
00:58:41 SOLUTIONS ARE IMPORTANT
01:00:26 white-supremacists and moral superiority
01:07:27 "It depends..." human lives vs property
01:10:50 can black ppl defend their property?
01:25:14 "You keep mansplaining me!"
01:32:37 Jan 6, punishment for ppl going into the capitol
01:54:56 Closing statements
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Destiny gets accused of mansplaining and Heem tries his best to steelman the left + keep things civil in the debate
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@No One anytime there was a mild criticism or a slight jab sent her way he would come flying in to protect her honor, what’s up with that? Does he simp for all women like that or just this one?
i love watching dumb people get dunked on
@No One That moderator was very hard (Translated by Google)
@@joshuamichael2463 I think it was because it was her first panel, so he felt like he had to protect her. Keem is usually pretty cool that was unlike him.
@@joshuamichael2463 he had empathy for a noob. Perhaps he's also looking for a new gf
more like destiny is womensplaining because destiny is a girls name
Pronouns would be uh/mazin
DESTINY? THAT'S A GIRL'S NAME
Lol the only chicks named destiny were born to be strippers
@@TheHoodedWonder Lol I had a fling with a stripper named Destiny in my mid 20’s. Her stage name was Kitty. Wtf, do you know her?
Ayoo!
What a strong, independent woman. She even lives independently of her brain.
$20 says her IQ is somewhere between 80-85
@@jeremyashcraft2053 I take the bet!
$20k that it's lower than 79.99995
@@jeremyashcraft2053 racist
@@leepinlepin i take that one too!
"he's a murderer because he drove there and put himself in that situation"
Wonder how he feels about victims of date rape cases
As a Brit, goddamn I got second hand embarrassment on behalf of our country for that guy on the panel.
Sorry about that. 😂
its ok man, we all have some rotten apples lol
He used to chat with Count Dankula, and by chat I mean constantly accuse him of being a white supremacist.
The guy has one tactic, and hes still shit at it.
Yeah but it seems like they have more bad apples then not. They all push their narrative when they’ve never had to struggle, and think they are oh so perfect. “Oui bruv stab me man then prey fo him I’m not eh killa”
No need to apologize, lol. He doesn't represent you. And furthermore, I'm just glad he doesn't live in the US, we have enough 'progressive' twits over here as it is, some even dumber than the woman on the panel.
The important thing is that you apologized
It requires a special amount of arrogance to believe that you are the only person Destiny interrupts 💀
WAITWAITWAITWAITWAIT.
wait.
next thing she'll think she has intellectually outpaced lord VOWSH
She is so self centered it's embarrassing
professional victim.. these liberals are so conditioned to just be offended about everythiing.
@@TheL4LMusic my dude, Destiny is a liberal. You know that, right?
The “property is replaceable” argument is the most privileged thing I think I’ve heard someone say in my entire life.
Especially in the Kenosha context. The Car Source businesses were owned and ran by brown people lol. They acknowledged that they didn’t have the capital to rebuild their business without government aid.
Umm sorry sweaty but what are you talking about? Oh no your 1990 Honda Civic that’s your only transportation to your wage slave job got torched. Just buy a new car with your low pay 🤪
@@TheSlicktrickz Now apologize and eat it in a Bentley
Have you watched the trial? It's been mentioned several times that you don't have the legal right to protect property with deadly force.
@@tcritt Yes and no. Morally yes, legally no.
In general its the polices job to defend property (its literally a human right). But if they ignore your calls for help, imo you can defend it, to death. Aka, you do what the policeegally would do, if they were here.
I'm a minority, I remember the LA riots as a kid, and I agree 100% with Destiny and Rob. This was one of the easiest cases not to politicize and yet here we are. it was obvious self-defense.
this was literally the most clearcut example of self defense and people are saying he should be in jail because he put up the 👌 symbol, which just so happens to be one of the proud boys gang
But black people
its insane that we cannot acknowledge a person's life's work can be a person's life. That taking that away can genuinely kill them and their family. How much privilege does one need to have to not see that.
Because it is an incredible dumb argument. And as clearly pointed out to you by the panelists property is repalcable, lives aren't. And destiny and Co were being highly disingenuous when the argument that the far right causes the most violence by claiming deaths and injuries are less important that property damage.
You're right, people sometimes self-delete when their lives are destroyed to that capacity. Goodbye kid's college funds, good bye house, good by financial cushion. I can't imagine how hard it is to run a self/family owned business and the ones who have been around for years become a symbol of their community.
Right, it's so fucking stupid. My car recently had a maintenance issue and I lost $2400 due to a scam, in the same week, right when I was running low on funds and still applying for jobs. And I still had a bunch of bills to pay on top of that. I managed to get the car fixed, but my every day life would have been substantially affected if I didn't (especially my work life). And if I lost anymore than $2400, I might have been out on the street because I couldn't pay my rent. With everything that was going on, I feel like I would have had a meltdown if my situation got worse. It's really annoying when these idiots talk like that.
how terrible for you, I am sure you would have preferred to have been killed, right? since this is what the comparison is, killing somebody or destroying replaceable things like cars@@kmgyening clowns
I think it's either an issue with intelligence, that they can't perceive metaphors or abstract concepts of comparison. Or, it's willful ignorance because acknowledgement erodes the point they're trying to project. So they choose Ignorance in order to attempt to be right. (They want to be right more than they want to be correct)
She debates like I did in primary school. Absolutely outclassed by everyone in the panel to the level where her pressence is actually lowering the quality of the debate….
I genuinely feel bad for her; she's so lost in the sauce that she can't think critically about any of the issues.
her name fits
I'm 34 minutes into the video and I'm already tired of her regurgitation of main stream media talking points that can be debunked by less than 10 minutes of research.
@@wa-bu3ke
Lmao, literally my first thought. All optics, framing, and passive aggressiveness the "moderator" kept enabling Jesus.
She'd do something 3 times then when someone threw it back at her dude descended from the heavens like a white knight
@@knes167 from an outsider's POV.. it looks like heem was trying to protect some ass.
She's not even following the conversation. She's just listening for key words and reacting with no regard for context.
Yeh she no one needed to debate her because she did a good job of making herself look foolish
@@RiseUpToYourAbility the problem though, is that she kept interrupting everyone and asking leading questions, while Heem kept defending her regardless. She made this debate barely even count as a debate.
That lady needs practice debating. She took offense to everything and leaped to insulting. She needs to practice not being triggered so much and stop jumping to "don't mansplain" when you are expected to justify your own beliefs in a debate.
She also did the evil witch laughing which for some reason is a tactic women use in debates. Maybe it's the equivalent of a man getting aggressive to intimidate the person
She tapped into that 2015 feminist energy
Should watch some of her other shit dude, she takes offense to EVERYTHING, you cannot talk to that bitch and not offend her at some point.
What's really funny to me is that she only apologized about accusing him of mansplaining because Destiny identifies as nonbinary. As if accusing a man of mansplaining is not offensive at all. And just like you said, the whole point of debates is justifying your stance. If you think the opponent is wrong in their beliefs, you have to assume that they just don't understand something. A good debater will explain their point in a simple way that anyone can understand, but the side effect of that is emotional people can feel like they're being talked down to
It's hilarious that they don't understand that Rittenhouse didn't shoot to "defend property", he shot to defend his life, which he took very reasonable measures to avoid having to and excercised good judgement in doing so (like holding back on shooting the 3rd attacker with the pistol when he started to step back and lowered his gun, but shooting him only as he raised it again).
People showed up to stand in/outside their businesses and those lf their neighbors as witnesses and deterrents to mob violence... they were armed to defend themselves and each other should anyone try to attack them. That's after 2 nights of riots had already done $50 million in property damage (I think people were attacked too, but could be misremembering) amd where the cops were clear they would not intervene and there were no national guards called in (the Governor was a disgrace).
I'm not sorry to say, but Rosenbaum forfeited his life, and I don't feel sorry for a guy like him. I do feel sorry for the innocent kid he once was, but whatever he did and happened to him between then and this night, he was derranged.
The thing that hurts my brain the most is “if he wasn’t open carrying he wouldn’t have been attacked” what type of stupid do you have to be to attack someone open carrying?
Right?!? As if seeing someone with a rifle causes you to lunge at them. It does the exact opposite because you don't want to be SHOT TO DEATH
These are the same dumbasses who bend over backwards to never 'victim-blame' anybody on their side. Thankfully, Destiny points out their rampant hypocrisy.
It depends on the type of people you run into. In most cases, people aren't gonna wanna mess with you if they see you carrying, but in a select few cases open carrying can paint a target on your back. It paints you as a person of power and say if I want to do something illegal or take control of an area or situation the biggest threat to my objective would be a person of power. So it could increase your chances of getting ambushed. It's like how in war you'll always target those carrying weapons because those are the only ones who can stop you.
this moderator getting preachy about “name calling” and then allowing the chick and British dude to call everyone else a fascist is so cringy 😂
Yes, because the far-left is often so fragile. They require extra protection, as otherwise they will leave and there won't be any comedy left.
Left is cringe. Big news.
I would use the word “hypocritical” instead of cringy lol but yes you right
"Brain poison"
It's not "name calling" if it's true.
Claiming that Destiny is only Mansplaining is erasing her Blackness. He is also Whitesplaining. Intersectionality.
Edit: Nvm... just realized shes from the Westbank, lmaooo
Ayyyy y'all pfp bruh 🤣
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Do you watch many of destiny's videos? Keep up the great work! :)
Netball guys dunking on girls lmao.
add an extra chromosome in that equation, she had zero intelligent things to say
i think i got the most triggered when that progressive girl simply wouldn’t admit that people have the right to defend themselves and their property😭 her and Destiny were in two different pools at that point
Yeah she was refusing to answer his question. He def caught her there
"You can't be this condescending". She proceeds to not lower herself to answer simple questions because it was a man who asked the question.
Progressivebrat only speaks in ways where she’s looking for a “YASSS QUEEN” moment but fails miserably every time, I adore that destiny doesn’t let it slide
Yeah she was throwing out so much bullshit he couldn't even call her on the "OK" sign or the Proud Boys, neither of which are actually racist like she is trying to assert.
I didn't think someone could be this idiotic. Does progressive and intellectual mean something different in the USA.
She is actually below zero IQ. Everytime she opens her mouth I cringe myself to semi-death.
All of her "arguments" (and I'm using that word very loosely) were motivated by emotion rather than fact. Makes me so mad that this is the only woman representation on this panel, makes us all look stupid af.
@@NikaTheBoo fallacy from emotion & ignorance unfortunately🥸
In one sentence, she is accusing him of being sexist and being sexist herself over the span of like three words. One of the most impressive things I have seen in a while.
If some one holds a face of contempt the whole time, don't expect anything useful from their mouth. There's a bias that can't be broken in a debate sphere. Maybe if they 1v1 in a calm manner, but not where they are now.
@@Xontor23 You haven't lived her experience as an IG model aspirant. It takes about 15 hours of work each day to perfect the duck face and to find the perfect selfie. She knows the basics of the Rittenhouse trial, which is impressive considering her busy lifestyle.
@@rkaye2009 not even the basics, she's just seen the video footage of the night
Morons like her hold the "you can't be x-ist against an oppressed class" mentality.
She's a horrible person and plays victim to justify how horrible she is. She'll never accept that she's even capable of BEING sexist... let alone that she was in that moment.
Sexism is probably bound to power in her world view, so she as a woman can't be sexist towards men.
Literally the only thing Brat has done is give emotionally charged responses to anything she doesn't want to hear. She has brought nothing of value to this panel. Why was she here?
yeah but kyle sang the proud boys song
I really can't get over her stance of people having to do nothing but stand back and watch as their homes and businesses are destroyed because lives matter more.
And thus the burning of America ....
Damn, the Rittenhouse trial really is the greatest NPC test in the world.
It really is. Idk how you look at the facts and find any other conclusions unless you're literally just a left npc that doesn't actually use your brain. Idk man
It’s kinda like how Jan 6 and the Trump’s “Big Lie” about the Election is a Right Wing NPC Test
“Who won the 2020 election?”
“Uh … erm … it was …” - NPC Detected
@@tripledigit4835 I’m right wing and I agree
Holy shit this comment made me lmfao XD
S T A T E L I N E S
Destiny: "I wish I could videogame people who leave their carts out in the parking lot."
Theprogressivebrat: "This is real life, we're not talking about a videogame"
Classic
This fucking SENT me
And the look on Destiny’s face, my fucking sides xD
"I don't hang ouuuuuuut with people like thaaaaaaaaaat" - P.Brat 2021
And then 1:13:21
She is in fact quite an intellectual.
Talk about being 2 brain cells away from being brain dead.
“Property is life.” 100% True. I’m a farmer, and my business is everything to me. I’ve seen farmers who had fires wipe out their land (I’m from Australia). And the next day we’ve been out there shooting burnt up livestock, and mopping up the damage. The psychological burden that places on the owner of those farms is traumatising, and something you never fully recover from.
It's so funny how she tells everyone to be quiet when she is speaking, but can't keep her trap shut when other people are speaking or even responding to her point. How annoying.
That girl is a master of making me hate her immediately. Bravo, playing victim on the first sign of resistance? You love to see it,
I bet you a dollar she's a Secret Nazi
when Rob gave his version of what she said as " I'm a progressive so I don't care about facts and fuck you your a man"
She picked an accurate name
Every "woke" individual has more in common with a nazi than most of the people they constantly demonize as nazis.
@@01What10 "Woke" doesn't mean anything.
I love how when he responded back with the same "honey" she was using at others, she took the bait so hard. Gotta be more self aware with your own language.
I was wondering if he would hit back with it and he actually did it, mad respect for actually doing it xd
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT SHES A WOMAN LOL
These people are fucking baffling. Seriously HOW do you condescendingly use the word "honey" and then get offended about someone doing LITERALLY THAT back to you like 5 minutes later?
Fucking how??? How do you do that without realizing it?
@@MrRazmut to be fair it was like 15 minutes and I don't think her attention span reaches more than 2 minutes. That was at least 7 times her quota
And the simp moderator fell for it too….
How Destiny remains a lefty after interacting with these people is beyond me
Well, Destiny said he supports children being turned into sex dolls as long as they are unconscious. Pretty crazy mix of beliefs.
I’m right wing and my position on the this is mostly the same as what he is saying here. The leftists are just not living in reality and don’t understand anything.
because like joe rogan, they are kind of rationale leftys. if u change politics sinply because the side youre on became radicalized then did u really have faith in your beleifs in the first place?
The left eats their own. Logic is not easily grasped by many.
Bless her heart… she actually thought she did something here.
yeah you sh///////
She did plenty, including convincing me that she doesn’t have enough brain cells to rub together.
She think she smar
I think she did at 1st, but was pouting in sulking agitation at the end as she just sat on her phone.
@@zeex9338 "Look at Woodhouse! He thinks he's people!"
*"6 People screaming on a panel for 2 hours"*
Shark: 🗿
Maybe I just didn't pay attention, but red pill didn't talk much either
All I can think of while watching this is how sad it all is that you can bring people from different sides together to argue, but it's nearly impossible to get them to actually engage with each other's arguments.
It's problematic when people come into it thinking they are correct from the get go. Leaves no room for nuance
I mean it’s one thing to disagree on theory but there was a lot of dancing around facts here. And when people say “to me,” “I feel like,” etc. There really isn’t any argument to be had.
For real. This was fun to listen to as a comedy, but it honestly has zero intellectual value as a "debate". I can't imagine being the moderator here; I feel like I'd just despair at how childish people are acting.
I am new to watching these debates, so I have to ask: do people actually think anything is accomplished here? It feels like there is this veneer of intellectualism over a bunch of people yelling at each in a zoom chat. I guess calling this a debate is kinda like calling Judge Judy a televised court case.
you can bring dumb people together, thats entertainment and its content so its shown more. Actually intelligent conversation also requires an intelligent audience that is also willing to put down time to listen and pay attention for over an hour which isnt too common in our modern age of internet
Jesus I was rewatching this and it's nerve-racking how everytime someone tries to make a point or explain a point, someone else interrupts just to complain about something worthless, whine, get triggered or just try to respond to a point said a while ago
Destiny inventing "Themsplaining" was priceless.
❤️👍
The term has a point though : D
She finally apologized at the end.
ya haha that was great.
Just because I use He/Him doesn't mean I use "man" for my 'splaining. 😆
The blank expression on her face when Destiny is explaining how insurance doesn't always fully help tells you all you need to know lmao
Dude, they don't know the first fucking thing about insurance. Your premiums go up, you might have a deductible. If a whole block of companies is insured with one firm, then that firm might default, and you are all shit out of luck (this happened with Hurricane Katrina, where some firms didn't want to pay out). As lefties like to point out, insurance firms ALWAYS look for excuses not to pay out.
I'm super surprised that you can get insurance against political action in the US. In South Africa, there is one state-owned firm that insures against political action. They recently required massive government bailouts, because of too many claims at the same time
none of these people are running a business, this has always been obvious
Especially from the people who (very often) allegedly hate health insurance and decry it's problems all the time when talking about private vs public healthcare.
Yes, a lot of the private business owners had insurance that couldn’t even cover the clearing of the rubble let alone restart their livelihoods. She really needs to do more factual research before she ever debates again. If you even want to call what she did debating.
@@j3n1us There's debating, in which you hold a point of view and provide arguments for it and against a different one. Then there's virtue signaling, in which you repeatedly praise yourself for holding a view and denigrate other for disagreeing with you.
Sher probably watched a few "debates" with Michael Eric-Dyson and decided to emulate that.
Less than 30 mins in and I'm gona have to watch this when more relaxed.
Listening to multiple adults refuse to awnser questions and act like emotional kids with victim mentalities is my cryptonite. stress wise.
As a black conservative and a person who cares about their community i can honestly say there are things i disagree with destiny about...this is not one of them if i ever ran into him i would take a picture with him and that doesnt mean i agree 100% but i respect his consistency
But would you be willing too have sex with him?
“We’re not in a video game”
Bro the RittenHouse Arc is TOP TIER
I died when she didn’t understand
Oh yeah that had me crying literally no context whatsoever 😂 from her perspective destiny probably seemed so dumb and immature LOL
What are the "me mes" people keep talking about
52:00 I love that Rob is the only other person that facepalmed
Whoever this girl is, big oof. Her defaulting to these “you’re a man” comments are so cringe. Just build a legitimate argument and defend it.
It's the reason why I have a lack of faith in the education system these days.I have seen many many college aged kids speaking the same way using the same talking points.
They learn it in college.
@@rosssivertson6339 perhaps from the social structures around young people, but not specifically in subjects of a degree.
Unfortunately that works in a lot of the spaces these people insulate themselves in. So in their mind it’s a slam dunk and they don’t realize how fundamentally stupid it makes them seem
It was so 2014
The sort of woman of colour feminists who write screeds against White males but exclusively date and find attractive white dude and gals.
Moderator wasn't kind to Destiny at all. Like seriously. He gets called Brain Poison and a bunch of other things but he says let's use more than 10% of our brains here and he gets called out for name calling. Like how is that name calling, telling people to think critically for a moment.
Earned yourself a sub my man, I disagree with you on a lot of things probably on most things but you are a critical thinker and I respect that.
Holy crap, she actually failed the conditional hypothetical meme.
"bad thing (in a video game)"
"WELL WE'RE NOT IN A VIDEO GAME, WE'RE IN REAL LIFE!!"
My jaw actually dropped. Sub-zero IQ.
Shock horror, 17 year old unfairly demonised by half a country is pushed into the arms of the people who DO stand up for him. Who could have seen THAT coming
It's just so weird seeing them go all detective mode but completely ignoring the fact he's literally a kid. 😂
The leftists are pushing most people to the right. I'm personally an extremist and the past 4 years people who would never have agreed with me are.
Its wild 😂
Exactly, these guys are so freaking weird.
the whole "in a video game" shit was funny af
That shit literally gave me a concussion
almost choked on my food when she said that
Like, oh you think this is a game? You think black oppression is like a video game?
At that point I realized she's too stupid to be in ANY conversation
@@kenjinsakura she’s definitely stupid but I’m not sure this is a good example of it. I think she just isn’t online enough to know the meme.
"my country" meanwhile she said 10 minutes prior that she lived there for 1 singular year, okkk ms. manipulative
“Is there a 10 second echo in here”😭
"She gets slack for being her first time"
They call that slack....he didnt moderate her at all. In fact he argued for her points.
simping
FACTS
So true. She had no business being on that panel at all. Ignored facts and glorified feelings
I dOnT hAVe tO ExPLaIn MySElF
I noticed that too.... they fuckin
That one guy proved that everyone with a cool British accent isn’t always smart.
Or clean. Dude looks like he's covered in dingle berries from head to toe.
@@zacharyharbridge9231 : Lmfao
He’s a midlander. He doesn’t register in the ‘intellectual’ accents of Britain
@@user-rz2sq9fm2g : Fair enough, as an outsider every time I hear someone like him or Lonerbox talk I think to myself “ohh they must be smart.” Than you start analyzing what they are saying and it is borderline lol.
@@user-rz2sq9fm2g It's unfortunate that there are still accents seen as neccessarily 'intellectual' here in the UK , but I take you're point nonetheless.
I for some reason didnt like Destiny when I first discovered him. but jesus, now? he truly gained all my respect! you really can see on this panel how ideological thinking can poison peoples minds. it doesnt even allow you to admit simple factual or reasonable statements as to be true. Destiny is the only one here who‘s sane
I think he used to be worse, and less fact based. Lately though, he's been on point
I think Destiny would agree that his early self was justifiably unlikeable.
Yeah, idk what it is, but anytime theres a woman on here, they really make misogyny make sense😂
My fav Latinx Non Binary streamer finally calling out the BIGOTS who misgender them.
His pronouns are he/him 🤨
@@Threelegs94 clearly a joke
@@Threelegs94 bruh
@@monkeydude2424 Pronouns don't equal gender. Plus, plenty of NB folks go by she/her and he/him. It just means they have a stronger connection to that side of their gender.
@@johnleoks7642 “BIGOTS who misgender THEM” they were using they/them pronouns when his pronouns are he/him.
The little freakout over "honey" is blackpilling me
heem said at the beginning he had invited her on and was defending her the whole stream. He was simping so much it was hard to not notice
@@robhuanout5443 I think he may have just felt sorry for her. She was definitely not ready for this.
@@JohahnDiechter She should stick to her echo chamber and safe space. Critical thinking wasnt in the cards for her.
It was a beautiful example of how people don't care when women say certain things to men but they care when men say these things to women.
I understand wanting to include a woman and all to make it more inclusive but it is just as important to have someone with at least a surface level understanding of the facts and not just Twitter hot- takes.
She constantly spoke over everyone, brought the conversation to a screeching halt on at least three separate occasions then crowbarred in the minority/woman card at every opportunity. It's just like when your parents let you go hang out with your friends but you need to bring your annoying kid brother with.
"I don't think anyone should die under any circumstances"
Modern medicine in SHAMBLES
How on earth do you tell if your attacker is mentally ill? Even if you could tell, it doesn't change the fact you're being attacked. Plus, If you said, based on the conversation they had prior, half of this panel sounds mentally ill, and I'm dead serious. We've reached DEFCON 4 levels of hysteria.
"We're not about to question me on this debate panel"
"We're not about to question my knowledge of the case on this debate panel"
"We're not about to single me out for something I said on this debate panel"
Fucking christ
Can Iran take her back?
I actually agree or do we suddenly think it's valid when MikefromRedacted screams random questions to test his opponents knowledge?
@@AnimeFan9833 when Mike does it, he just starts naming random stuff until he finds a term he read up 20 mins ago so he can lecture you about how you don't know anything.
With her, she said so many mindless and dumb things like "couldnt he wait a few seconds before shooting?" "Kyle is a white supremacist because he did X after the shooting" you have to start asking the question, do you know what we're talking about?
@@AnimeFan9833 You okay bud? The initial question about the facts of the case are to make sure that this isn’t just going to be a debate with someone in a different reality who needs to be educated. There’s no point in talking about the morality or legality of a situation if both people have a fundamentally different understanding of what actually happened. Forcing her yo explain what happened shows conclusively whether she has the facts of the case or not.
@@leroture7750 No I'm literally shaking and shidding right now.
Anyway, you probably have a point but I don't believe it's very fair to pick out an individual panel member to recount the entire thing you're talking about. You can also disagree on the facts of the matter, that's something you will have to deal with in these discussions. Do you think Destiny would ever go: "Well, we disagree too hard, I'm leaving this panel right now."?
Damn, this Rittenhouse arc is gold.
@@6FootVampire No you are gold 🥇
@@6FootVampire 🥇
it keeps getting better and better
@@gommoolabajobir8687 KING
This anime is getting wild
Rittenhouse case was not the hill for the far left to die on, but I guess they decided to make that shit Waterloo.
Every few months I come back to watch this and laugh lol
I laughed pretty good when that one dude said "can you let me finish!?" because he made a facial expression lol.
Heem was simping so hard. It's incredibly difficult to be civil with someone when you're trying to have a debate and they aren't saying anything. She started off the debate by telling people she didn't have to explain her position.
If Heem doesn't want name calling and testy exchanges then having on people like Destiny, Rob, and a snowflake like Progressive Brat on the same panel makes that highly unlikely.
54:29 Brat: "That's just youuuuuuuuu (silence) tee hee'
Rob: "You're not doing as well as you think you are"
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Started watching Destiny more recently. Rewatching some older panels currently.
Jesus what a trainwreck, and i am only 40 minutes in. How the hell did i miss this piece of gold when it first dropped?
All these panelists saying "rEeEeE jUsT lEt InSuRaNcE pAy FoR iT" clearly have no grasp on reality and have never built or invested in a damn thing in their entire lives.
WHO DO THEY THINK PAY THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS?
I think this is a classic example of someone coming into to politics sphere and thinking you can treat it like real life. The girl being like "your not gonna talk to me like that", it's twitch politics dude, people sling shit at each other, roast each other, make stupid memes and stir shit.
Have you ever even been outside? In real life she get absolutely put in her place if she acting like this WTF, are you eu?
The way she instantly went to, because I’m a woman you’re insulting me immediately made me know she was gonna be shit
I think you mean someone who comes from the leftist echochambers on twitter and/or reddit and now actually has to SPEAK against and argue with someone she disagrees with eye to eye
@@mauriciocumboobs6645 TRUE. Twitch politics is way more like debating politics IRL than 90% of political shows. The difference of course being that IRL you don't generally burn bridges because someone doesn't like the same rich power-hungry politician as you
I think its the opposite. She debates like its Twitter.
What scares me, is that she could be part of a jury in this country, to a man who can be completely innocent but if it goes contrary to her agenda she could make your life a living hell
Hopefully the pool to choose from would be large enough to fill it with people of nuance. I don´t see her being sneaky enough to be able to hide her bias.
Yeah, first off most people want to avoid jury duty, so she’d likely say whatever it takes to get dismissed. Not too hard. She can just say “I have bias that would be hard to dismiss in this case.” Second off, if enough jurors disagree with her (and they try to get diverse people in there with enough nuance) the jury could just hang and they’ll have to start over.
@@YungM.D. unless it was against trump or any other right wing personality she would jump on the chance to convict someone regardless of innocence or guilt
IS part of a jury somewhere.
She would probably just argue "I'm a black woman and I feel oppressed" to get out of jury duty.
ProgressiveBrat: Are you going ask a person with an AR15 for medical help!?
Me (Combat vet): Yes.
1:06:49 nope I live in Minneapolis almost no one got insurance payout to anyone and Lake Street looking a lot like Mogadishu
This lady jumped right in head first with the "You're a man don't be mean to me" B.S. Nobody had even said anything to her yet.
All the bullshit she spewed and she still the soy boy moderator jumped to her defense at every turn.
"Then get out of the kitchen if you can't handle the heat"
This girl isn't going to do well in debates if she keeps this up, literally less than a minute after being upset with destiny at not giving an instant yes or no answer to her question, she diverts his question. Nearly if not everything she says is filled with holes and contradictions.
And it doesn't help how she takes everything personally, and the host is protecting her.
Facts
She did not make a single positive contribution to this entire debate. She never posited an idea, she never stated a factually-accurate account and she never provided a valid criticism. She was only a negative influence in this conversation.
@Pepe Le Chad Exactly. As soon as she finished her opening argument I was wondering how tf she even got on this panel.
Well you forget that her world view is self evident. Makes sense when you don't think about it
She’s pretty dumb
I have so much respect for Destiny. Mad props on your dedication to facts and logic.
Destiny please start sharing everyone else’s link so we can tell them what we think of their arguments.
Out of all the things to prioritize in Theprogressivebrat's closing statement, her apologizing for misgendering Destiny, of all people. After such an obviously embarrassing and disengaged performance, as she continuously refused to have her positions challenged with hypotheticals.
It just perfectly encapsulates the strange, obscure, and irrelevant priorities these lefty zoomers have to the issues at hand.
Leftists fundamentally hate logic and objectivity. It’s explicitly stated in critical theory literature. They want to acquire power, not determine truth.
I hope Heem at least got some after
@@crescendo5594 leftists are evangelicals?
@@tarfielarchelone2674 They’re scriptural, yes. I’m not just making shit up. Read the literature. They literally denounce fundamental enlightenment philosophy like objectivity, evidence, and individualism.
Every talking point coming from the far left is through the lens of these philosophies directly, or indirectly through praxis.
She's young and naive. What the left preys on.
Destiny telling her she was using 10% of her brain had me rolling 🤣
Which is a very mild insult tbh
@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280 honestly i wouldnt have even done that yea its for the luls but it just sews mistrust and chagrin. I found the best way to deal with these kinds of people is to literally ignore them. If they dont want to actually contribute to the debate or discussion then dont give them anything to debate. For example when she kept saying Proud boys proud boys proud boys ad nauseum just let her keep saying it till she stops and just talk to someone else straight up ignore her and be like so shark what do you think about this. Its kinda funny af too, still funny without directly insulting.
He was being very kind there....as moronic as she sounded, she was easily using 100% of her brain in this panel. She likely had to lay down after it was over.
@@Torcus100 If you think about it, it's barely an insult. You're basically telling someone they're much more intelligent than what the point they're making made them out to be.
idk I think he was saying she's so disabled to the point where she can only use 10% of her brain lmao@@ihsahnakerfeldt9280
Somebody calling themselves a brat is a red flag
This is difficult to watch. What's even the purpose of these debates? They just drive the political dividing wedge further.
One side refusing to acknowledge that Rittenhouse had every right to be there by law, and every right to defend himself by law, and if there is some moral issue with what he did that needs punishment, the solution is to reform the laws.
The other side refusing to acknolwedge that Rittenhouse probably wasn't there because he cared so much about the property in a state entirely different than the one he lived in, and that he was almost certainly there as an anti-BLM counterprotest.
One side casting him as some racist, murderous villain who was out for blood, the other side holding him up as some poor victim who was just doing the right thing, trying to save property from certain destruction, when he was forced to traumatize himself by ending lives.
He was anti-BLM. By Kenosha law, however, you are allowed to open carry, even at a protest you disagree with. He was attacked unprovoked by a mentally ill person and tried to flee, but was chased down and forced to fire before he was overtaken. That is as clear as it gets in terms of self-defense.
However, if he had been doing the right thing, he would have never picked up that AR and headed down to Kenosha.
“You’re not doing as well as you think you’re doing” was a fuckin gut buster for me.
The way the mod steps in to defend her so often is crazy. She’s aloud(Edit: allowed *text to talk error but I’ll leave it for transparency to the conversation) to insult, use misinformation, and bait the whole time but the mod only steps in when it’s done to her.
Heem probably just felt bad for bringing someone very inexperienced and then throwing her in the proverbial deep end. He was likely trying to be welcoming to someone new and overdid it.
@@BasilAbdef I can definitely see that, but bad on him for making that choice. Made him look unprofessional and her look stupid. Maybe he should have brought her into help moderate but even that seems like it would have backfired.
Exactly. His poor excuse is "this is her first time on a panel"
That does not matter. She should have studied and focused on what was being discussed opposed to her doing character assassination which contributes nothing to the debate. She has garnered a small following about politics and publicly influenced her listeners about the topic of discussion.
I don't like using the term "simp" but if I were to ever give an example, this would be it. He was unfair
@@BasilAbdef Hypothetically let's say you've never been on a panel. I don't know you.
I honestly believe your first time, you would have contributed more than her.
You learn the basics of debate in school and she shows little to no knowledge on how it should be done. It's painfully obvious. I'm liberal but she just shouldn't be involved.
and then shark was completely left hanging constantly XD
"I don't think people should use an AR-15, even for self-defense, but I value human life over property." -Quote of the year.
1:06:48 This lady is… something else. She has no idea what she’s talking about.
Although she debated abhorrently through most of it, she completely lost it at the property is replaceable argument. It shows ignorance and privilege on so many levels.
That's what happens when you live your entire life without any hardship
I have been following her on instahoe because well she is really cute. It’s clear what she wants. She saw a bunch of pretty girls get popular and get some money doing this on twitch so she decided to play her had in it. She should have gone the conservative route they make way more money.
"Kyle rittenhouse took pictures with white nationalists, he's probably one too!"
"Barack obama took a photo with a black nationalist and anti semite, is obama a black nationalist"
"WhY aRe yOu pIVOtINg?!?!"
“Welcome to the United States, we have all kinds of crazy gun laws here” In reference to being allowed to own an AR15 at 18 and not a handgun is CRAZY. Those laws make total sense and only sound crazy to mf who have no clue about guns / gun laws / gun stats. But most everything else is based and gun pilled
Especially when over 90% of gun murders are by handguns.
31:40
For people that don't know, 4chan trolled mainstream media and to prove they were so dumb they trolled them to think that the ok symbol, 👌 meant white power......
because the fingers spell W and thumb makes a P.
CNN or whoever and this bright girl they bought on belive it as gospel.
Also the proud boys song she mentioned is I assume "proud of your boy" a song from the musical Alladin.
Not as incriminating or malicious as she's making out if he did even sing it.
"Are you going to get medical care from a guy with an AR-15"
As a former combat medic, I can honestly tell you, yes.
I've never understood the "medic doesn't mean has a rifle" thing. Like wtf are people talking about? medics/fmf corpsman are strapped just as much as anyone else.
@@legin777 it's asinine, it comes from the misunderstanding of how war law is understood. Medics and medical personnel are only allowed to carry "defensive" weapons. Which the M4A1 rifle being semi automatic, and with a caliber of only 5.56 it is classified as a defensive weapon. Not only that unlike most personnel whose job is just to shoot, medics are also given a 9mm berreta handgun. This is so that when caring for a patient, if an enemy comes upon you while one hand is doing the necessary life saving intervention, you can protect yourself and your patient from the enemy
These people are so deluded. I don't want to believe it.
@Trade Bum Simmons Nigel literally answered your question In the comment above. A medic would carry an m4 which is worse in many ways to an AR. ARs are far more customizable and are basically the same rifle. I was under the impression that the m4 had full auto or the three round burst tho, which would be it's only advantage to an AR
@Trade Bum Simmons no if they ridle steps above semi auto it is offensive, if the rifle steps above 5.56 to a 7.62 it is offensive. If it uses armor piercing rounds it is offensive. The AR-15 is modeled off a M1A4 Carbine. The 9mm is a small enough caliber that ammunition is plentiful on the battlefield. Most European Submachine Guns use it, this is why we switched from the .45 to the 9mm. It was so when you see a downed soldier ammunition is standardized.
She went to Iran on holiday so she could say “I lived in Iran” for every argument.
that crackling was me eating captain crunch. srry guys.
If rittenhouses tears were fake, then hes infinitley a better actor than the majority of hollywood. They were real. He was re living the moment
"he drove there, so he gave up his right of self defense"
I mean how do you even argue with an NPC like that?
They redefine words to fit whatever argument they are making, and change stances based on identity of person making arguments. You can't argue with them.
Take note, because it's a self defeating argument. Same can be said for a woman who dresses provocatively being forced upon at a shady bar. She put herself there.
Now of course, nobody will argue that, because it's wrong. & it's no different for Rittenhouse.
@@TheKeefeStone Peep game
You don’t. You just make fun of them.
“He was clearly asking for it”
That attitude, the sass, the annoyance, the thinking you are superior, calling everyone "honey" and saying "I don't need your approval" as if that's what they what they cared about, I just can't fucking stand it. She does not belong in debate. Every time she tried to "make a point" was just a half assed attempt to either point out hypocrisy or mischaracterize them to make them look bad. It's fucking ridiculous, and should not be tolerated or defended.
@@rumlerisom3965 No. You're generalizing. A lot of people do it regardless of skin color.
That was kinda racist bro, ngl
@@rumlerisom3965 and I also see it everywhere that they don't act like that. Dude, just because you live in a shitty place or you're recommended the same RUclips videos over and over doesn't mean that shows what the entire population acts like. Maybe women do it more often but you don't have to exclusively label it as a black women thing.
@@rumlerisom3965 I gave you the opportunity to clarify and you made it worse. You said that black women are stupid, overconfident, and have no self control. Do you really think that most black women act like that? Do you really think it's a race thing? My guy you're digging your own grave.
@@rumlerisom3965 Go away. Shoo. I'm done reasoning with you and your non arguments. If you have anything other than your personal experience (maybe a study or an article) then that's proof and we can discuss that. Other than that, I'm done with you.
@@rumlerisom3965 brodie i think you may just be racist
@ 0:32:00 -- "He was seen chanting the Proud Boys' song!"
He was seen chanting a showtune from the Broadway musical _Aladdin?_ How would one even chant that?
"Mouurio kart" lol wtf
Attacking a Politician for his politics was a favourite of mine this episode
I really want to see that British guy and Destiny do a 1v1. Destiny had him on the ropes a couple times but then someone would shout something just stupid enough to veer the conversation to something else and then 6 other people would have to give their 20 second cookie cutter take all while talking over each other...
@@fehwerofw Wouldn't have been much of a debate though, hes locked onto Destiny's left media hate, and therefore just discredits everything they'd argue about from Destiny. He did not even talk about any points either when asked, only went back to repeating what he said instead of answering.
@@beepboopbeepp No, Destiny was willing to and even said he would answer to every claim that was asked even when the Brit brought up his past transgressions to try to character assassinate him, but because the moderator couldn't keep his panel under control, Destiny wasn't able to get into anything. That's why I am calling for a 1v1. If you think I'm wrong though, feel free to post a time-stamp of when you claim that happened and we will see who is right.
Truth is though that Brit-bonger wouldn't dare leave the safety of his twitter echo chamber and actually challenge Destiny on stream, mano e mano.
these ppl r braindead, how do they hhave any respect to be platfrormed? str8 up amateur thought process
We went from from the rittenhouse trial to “I lived in Iran for a year” and white supremacy.
Eeeran... apparently
can someone fill me in on the "in a video game meme"
I dont get it 🤣🤣🤣 is a cart narc thing ?
God, every sentence out of her mouth is just this whiny, crying sound. It really shows the emotional state these people are at. It's kind of sad. Something has stunted her from maturing.
Heem as a panel host feels like the worst combination of the aspects of Prime and Dylan.
true lol
I’m not sure who prime or Dylan are, I feel he had some favorites but did an alright job overall, I think he could have muted people who interjected and babbled on for no reason more often
@@billjones3963 He gave progressivebrat an extreme amount of leeway, even for someone who was on their first panel. He'd let her insult and name call people, then interject when others did it back to her. He only started attempting to be more fair with his moderation when they directly called him out on it. He's a terrible host. You don't let a panelist do all kinds of shit just because it's their first time. You have rules and she should follow them.
I think he usually does a good job, but this is just awful lol
@@ndt7379 he’s new to it, he’ll hopefully learn from a lot of those mistakes. He seemed aware of a few of them at the end.
The Tulsa analogy was one of the most brutal mental beatings I've ever seen.
@@Debate_Pervert “I dOn’T tHiNk PeOpLe ShOuLd DiE aT aLl.”
She can’t comprehend differing circumstances.
She kept conflating protests and rioting too
Im not listening to Britbongs about lethal force for the same reason im not listening to teenage wahmyn about self defense 😂
1:10 i wish Destiny knew more about the historical events ge mentions in the debates.
The black people in Tulsa 1921 DID kill white people . The entire tulsa event began with several armed black men approaching the courthouse and demanding that "Diamond Dick" be released from the jail immediately.
When a white man threatened to take one of the black mens shotguns. The black man shot the white men, and then hus friends rired into the crowd on the courthouse steps. When they recieved return ture, they ran diwn the atreet being chased.
Even today, the left paints the whites as wrong when they were not the ones who shot first, and it didn't start in Little Africa.
@@dieselbaby
Absolutely
Destiny catching Heem and Progressivebrat on that “honey” thing was so satisfying
stamp?
@@oludus326 1:08:28
Heems simping was fucking pathetic
@@user-sk4ds1rg1z amen, he should at least simp for someone with good takes
Bruh that blew my mind, I didn't even remember her calling people honey, but the fact that Destiny heard it and kept it as ammo for that moment (knowing how they'd react) was excellent.
I lost my shit at 38:11 when the "dedicated progressive" reveals she doesn't even understand the decentralized structure of the BLM organization.
I cringed
@@98danielray Your pfp gave me Night terrors😂🌹
To be fair, it's hard to understand.
On the one hand, the 3 Founders straight up say it is not an organization. It is ONLY a Movement.
HOWEVER, it's also an International Non-Profit Organization. And they ALSO have Charters at Colleges. Which Movements don't have, only Organizations do.
So she is technically correct. It IS BOTH an Organization and a Movement. However, that should be Rob's Argument. Her argument should be it's ONLY a Movement, as the Founders stated.
So it's funny that Rob was echoing the Founders, and she was pointing of that it's actually an Organization. That part was pure gold.
why’s the british dude sound like a fancy stewie griffin?