I don't think destiny has a stred of compassion, but it is quite possible in these cases to have some type of earnest care for others and a desire to see them improve.
@@wagyubeans1399 i'm sure it feels great to hide behind a ski mask because you're so cripplingly stupid you don't want to also be made fun of for your appearance
how DERANGED youd have to be to think destiny lost that debate with daniel hequequieuq is insane that is one of the worst thrashings ive ever seen in a debate destinys record isnt perfect but that may be his biggest blowout
JiDion falling for the psychic act. Cold reading is how it works. They use vague guessing and let you fill in the blanks. If she was psychic she would be 100% accurate with what she will say directly.
Probably a mix of hot and cold. Her getting the name of his public merch... Like come on, people can do hot readings on randoms with social media, let alone an online content producer. I'm not surprised JiDion fell for it tho. This sort of duping is a career that's existed successfully for a looong time. There's a sucker born every minute!
While i agree my sister did have a weird experience. She believes is psychics and she went to hers. She did do some cold readings but it went like this (she records them) Psy-You have a brother? Sis-yes Psy- hes expecting? Sis- no i just went out drinking with his wife last weekend Psy- you might want to tell her not to drink because i see her with child and with a boy I shit you not 3 days later we found out we were pregnant and its a boy. I know its alot of cold readings but it was crazy coincidence for you not to be a little "holy shit is this shit real". My sister didnt even tell me about it till after because she though the reading was off but she showed me the recording after.
@@thrash208 you dont find out the sex of the baby at the same time as you discover the pregnancy. The pregnancy test can be taken at home or at a doctors office. That can detect within the first few weeks. The gender test has to be sent to a lab and only after 12 weeks. So already your timeline has some holes, unless you’re telling it wrong
Dan is 100% right about qorantos. Every time he is on stream no one else can talk, no discussion can happen except for Qorantos screaming into his Tyler1 ass mic ruining everything. to think there would come a day i wished for the sweet release of Zherka.
Once Destiny stops letting him on his stream, he will fade back into irrelevancy. Considering how boring his arguments are, I don't expect Destiny to tolerate him much longer
My prediction is he's using his religion to get stream clout with Destiny. Even in the first debate, he kept screaming and mindlessly rambling and said nothing useful. He keeps coming on again n again for the clout. A devout Muslim wouldn't hang out with Destiny like Qurantoes. You never see people like Daniel or any other Muslim hang out with Destiny like Qtoes, they wouldn't like it or be interested. He's basically a bad Muslim, and kinda gay with the way he keeps bringing up homosexuality.
QuranPotatoes will be gone soon he's just defending every questionable part of his religion and references people like Daniel Hikipikachu the pedo defender and now Tate's points as his own and defends both based on religious grounds purely but don't dare question it. Dude doesn't have any opinions of his own
@@sudev29 I don't agree with this framing of "Muslims would never hang with Destiny like he does", while there are "bad" muslims, Qurantoes seems to be more of an annoying person that happens to be Muslim. But he's definitely using the "Muslim" card to keep himself afloat around Destiny.
I appreciated Trains breakdown of psychics. He was kind, but I was relieved he said flat out "you were duped" instead of holding Jidions hand. His analysis was spot on and is especially true if a person is grieving or going through alot emotionally.
@@kauswekazilimani3736 Yes, and maybe you should watch his video. There are plenty of real paranormal experiences. For example almost 30 girls that played. Ouiji Board were hospitalised somewhere in South America. I know people that talk to independent entities that pretend to be ascended master or aliens, some think they talk to dead relatives. There ar people that agreed to go in an experience with a satanist ( that looked very friendly but was a real satanist) and puted people into a cabine then took them out and asked what they did in there, they said they did absolutely nothing ( this was in front of an audience ) then he showed the video cause he was filming inside and despite they were unconscious, they were moving, throwing things, writing etc… one of them literally screamed for his life and left panicking, I still can hear his scream. Those things are not natural but it doesn’t fit the agenda of the satanic people that rule the world and lead it to a new world order. Yes religions are controlled but that doesn’t one isn’t real. By the way evolution has evolved, there is no proof of life appearing instantly from nothing. Even theoldest fossils compared to animals we still possess like crocodiles for example just proves there was zero evolution between the fossil and the crocodile and all the animals appeared complete as we know them. Zero evidences of morphing into other animals
As a believer, this was hard to watch. He couldn't even defend the most common objections to the arguments for God. It's like if you aren't prepared for the objections that come up most often why even bring up the argument? It's disappointing because there are really good refutations of Destiny's points and I'd love to see him engage with the best versions of these arguments...
@@sydneemikumuren9812 there are no good versions of these arguments, because they all boil down to why isnt science able to explain literally everything.
I love train giving this great explanation of cold readings and destiny silently getting annoyed that his character targeted the wrong zombie and got killed for it Edit: happens around 18:23
@knockout 6.8 userscore on metacritic says game's mid af And we all see the play footage, it's just some dude's Starcraft 1 custom map he made after getting high and reading cherie priest's boneshaker
Thats what Im confused about too. How does he know what that chick was doing before they met? She could have had his info a while ago just by virtue of him being on the internet.
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba A question that should’ve been asked was what information did he give when booking the appointment, and if he used his real name while booking the appointment.
Didn't he go to some bumfuck town in the south any an army of high schoolers knew him and got hyped? Why doesn't he roll out to the psychic and get her on stream? Let's get hundreds of people and I want her stare into their eyes, ask no questions, and correctly state that person's specific school major and number of years, what field they're working in and for how long, how many cousins they have, etc., and do it with near perfect accuracy and consistency for the entire sample. Surely if she has real power she'd be up for the task :)
@@bigtoe-ws7ew preferably when he's not screaming into his mic everything that pops into his head. he's like louder, more annoying Zherka with a little Darrius mixed in
@@NazoXIII i think he'd be bearable, at least, if he fixed his stupid fucking audio settings. this motherfucker gives me a headache every time i listen to the stream
I don't get how you can put him in the same universe as Lav and Max. Sure he's dumb and loud, but he's good faith and seems to remain chill after an argument
@@Diego-og7nk wym? i’m watching a “debate” all i’m saying is qorantos adds zero value to the debate and always fails to understand simple points from anyone he’s talking to lmao
@@Diego-og7nk by debate i don’t mean a formal debate just two dudes with differing opinions arguing about the issue. why you tryna make your comments condescending lmfao chill with the semantics ykwim.
@@evolution__snow6784 There are some negatives that can be proved. The majority of negatives can't though. For example, address my previous comment. Prove to me 100% that unicorns don't exist.
@@evolution__snow6784 This only works though using proof of contradiction, which implies there are pre-existing facts that can be used to disprove. Things like "god" existing do not have set rules, hence you can't really disprove if there are already no agreed-upon facts.
Immediately after Dijon was done explaining about his s̶c̶a̶m̶ supernatural experience with the fortune teller, Qorantos came to the defence of a "higher power", but he's inadvertently supporting witchcraft, which is an offence in Sharia sometimes punishable by death.
Well, it's not particularly unintentional support of performing witchcraft. He's arguing for the existence of witchcraft which seems to line up with his view of the world.
How is he supporting witchcraft by arguing that it's real? You can disagree with people without completely misrepresenting what they're saying and sounding restarted.
@@sigmar40k Sihr("magic") in Islam is forbidden, and must never be considered an acceptable practice as it's the work of the Shaytaan (devil). To say that witchcraft is a good argument for the existence of the supernatural (i.e God) is to elevate and equate the work of the devil with that of God. After Jidion was done, Quranos never pushed back, he built upon what Jidion said when he continued to argue for the supernatural (in his sense-God). Restarted.
JiDion arguing for the existence of 🎅🏻: Dude, I *know* it wasn‘t my mom who took a bite from those cookies we set out, because when we baked them I asked her if she wanted one and she said no.
Ironic how qorantos talks about being inflammatory towards people who don't believe the same thing as you, and about believing in something 100% no matter what. Yet in the same breath with also say he believes in religion 100% but has no foundation based on reason and will flame you for not 100% believing in knowing that you understand the universe perfectly even though he again, says that's what you do.
Yall remember that time he added Packgod to the panel with Him, Destiny and Nick Fuentes…..sucks that you have that JiDion sometimes and then other times you get the JiDion that has a civil conversation with a racist and asks to come to his church
Destiny: It's called cold reading they say super vague stuff and narrow in on what you react to. Jidion: No, she knew I had 3 nieces D: What did she specifically say? J: She said "you have 3 small things you take care of but don't have full control over" and I was like damn she's talking about my nieces. ...bruh
If you're not making purely artistic content, you need to be willing to be seen as stupid, which is okay... But it seems like his friends are as stupid or more stupid for not telling him about cold reading, even without knowing the exact word for it. It's hard to dig yourself out of these pit holes on your own
Jidion:”I have proof of the super natural “ Us:”oh really? What ya got” Jidion:”I went to a psychic, and deadass she knew some things “ Us:”for fucks sake 🤦♂️”
The problem with all these stupid religious “gotchas” is that they don’t get us any closer to believing scripture. Let’s just say we grant that god must have created the universe…how do we get from there not eating pork or homosexuality being a sin?
@@TonyCox1351 Very easily. You look to see if God has ever revealed anything to humans about himself. Looking at the universe, it is obvious there is a will and direction for things, so its unlikely God would be like an absent father, after allowing and cultivating the conditions for life to exist.
Open video. Heard that guy who tries to shout over people. Nah. Why would this lady upload this in the middle of the night? I support women but, destiny is really losing her mind uploading this.
Please don't have conversations with Qurantos dude or whatever his name is. It's just not interesting. Jidion is less intelligent but the conversation with him would have been much more interesting.
Jidion is sharing an experience with a REAL practitioner of psychometry -- unlike Notsoerudite, who only calls herself a psychometrist. How many times have you seen Erudite pick up a medallion and read its psychic resonance? I've never seen that shit.
I think he realized once he had it explained 7 times. He connected the dots; he just didn't wanna entertain the possibility that he may have gotten conned. Especially when he connected that fortune teller experience to his religious beliefs.
"LET ME TELL YOU HOW YOU'RE BEING SO SOY WHY ARE YOU SOYING OUT SOY SOY SOY SOY SOY SOYYYYY" the sound of someone confident and secure in their position
It's funny at first but mostly because he was just being loud and obnoxious while not trying to make a point. ... I thought he was just being funny the first time I didn't think he was actually this ugh... r(worded)
I just started listening to destiny a few days ago and I can’t understand how he keeps debating complete morons. I can’t understand how all these people aren’t 4D trolls Dude gets cold reading explained to him and next thing it’s WELL, we prayed and then I took random underwear and rubbed chocolate on it -and said it belonged to this dude and then I took a photo of the dude to her Then she got the energy from rubbing the dude in the photo and then got my energy… AND THEN ASKED IF WE WERE HOMOSEXUALS! -did you say homosexual? Na, homie-sexuals! THATS MY BRAND. IM TOTALLY NOT GAY! So ANYWAYS, that’s my proof of the supernatural and why I support this raging muslim.
You just made a bad judgement cause judion doesn’t support Ishlam, he just respect people ( unlike you ) and that supernatural experience is not why he believes in God. By the way there are a lot of people who went far into the occult, had a rough time and did a lot of of crappy things cause of that way of life but at the end they realised the entities they were listening to were fallen angels and had bad intentions
@@slcindiatv2945 in the real world we call those people mentally ill. if the devil can be cured by you taking some antipsychotics, he's probably not really the devil.
Entertainers very often are not the brightest people in the room. Also it seems like there is certain group of people that just want to believe everything that has to do with religion or supernatural shit.
I kind of reject that characterization of Jidion. When I think of a bot, I think of someone very closed minded. Jidion seems like a normal dude for a lot of stuff he's wrong about, but he seems much more willing than most people to consider that he's wrong and learn. The average person has no fucking clue what cold reading is. It's incredibly easy to be taken in by these kinds of things unless you actually have read up on the topic.
@@jenispizz2556 Ok penis jizz, imo all the people that would be incredibly easy to manipulate with "supernatural" fancy tricks like you're saying are also bots. Easily programmable and mold-able. Immense lack of logic and deductive reasoning skills. So guess we just got different definitions.
@@tarfielarchelone2674 If I understood his story correctly, it sounds like he spoke to her over the phone first, and then met her in person after. There was a comment where he said he was talking to her on the phone, and then parts where he spoke of the camera crew and taking a photo and chain to her in person. I could be wrong, but that's what it sounded like to me.
"If there's no God then how is the Earth and universe perfectly made for us" is such a self centered argument it would be like mold asking "if there's no God then how is this stale food perfect for us" like, the Earth doesn't exist FOR us, rather we exist as a result of variables that made the Earth what it is.
@@vvillhelmzecheekclapper7984 you dont know how probability works. also referring to something as stupid as "the" law of probability is beyond brainrotting. go back to school
@@vvillhelmzecheekclapper7984 yeah true, Destiny said our universe isn't random, which isn't true, universe is random. Many things happen because of inter-atomic reactions which are random.
As someone who does divination through tarot. It's all just psychological tricks. It's very "real" in that we are able to tell you what you need to hear but we build on vagueness and from that are able to get more and more specific.
What is the trick when they don't ask questions? The only "psychic" I've ever encountered just straight up told me specific things without asking a single question or getting my input. Idk how she did it, I even lied when I got uncomfortable and it didn't throw her off.
If the fortune teller wasn't a fan, and one of Jidions friends told her all that shit, that guy is probably pretty nervous now that Jidion bases his worldview on that interview...
Haha it is truly wonderful to hear Qorantos panicking while debating with Destiny. Those sweet sweet "you're short so you're wrong" arguments really nail his point down
Please no more religious debates...I feel my brain rotting away. I used to watch the atheist experience and shit man. The religious people use the same arguments which leads the atheist to using the same arguments and then you just hear the same thing over and over and over again. It's exhausting.
the fact that Destiny said many times that he didn’t wanna argue about religion and the guy didn’t respect his wishes and instead, pushed and harassed him. that already makes you look bad enough as a content creator. plus Destiny has made many good points. he did very good when he brought up him being willing to be honest and say idk.
Jidion is 100% describing an experience with hot reading. It would explain why the person didn't want more information from him, because after all the effort of looking him up, they wouldn't want extra info from him to make the hot reading less effective. As for how they did it, they either would have taken information from the booking of the appointment, or bugs in the waiting room to get info to look him up. His "I only had 200k subs" then thing is nonsense, because psychics use this shit against people with 0 subs. Also, there are large prizes available for psychics that are able to prove they have powers under test conditions agreed to by them and a testing body, and no one has ever been able to do it. Psychics have never been shown to exist.
Is Qurantos sent here to punish us for a lack of quality orbitors.... Its like Destiny went to a Call of Duty teamspeak server from 2013 and was like get me the most edgelord caffeiened up 15 year old I want to boost him and put him on stream. Destiny is a 34 year old dude arguing with a 21 year old internet-bro, like we gotta get better content than this
JiDion's psychic story is either a massive cope, or a "prank" on the entire call considering that's his whole shtick. This just in: Nardwuar is a psychic any time he interviews minor celebrities.
I love the cup of water analogy. Destiny finds the cup of water, brings it to you. "Hey, I found this cup of water. I don't know where it came from." Qorantos finds the same cup of water, brings it to you. "Hey, I found this cup of water. It was created by a magic man in the sky. I didn't see him pour it, and I don't know how he poured it, but I know for a fact that he poured it because I read it in a book that was written over a thousand years ago." WHICH ONE OF US IS CRAZY?
@@avastone5539 Which is the exact reason when someone tells me that they know, for a fact, where we, the universe, and everything in existence comes from, I'm immediately skeptical. Truth is there's no way to know for sure until you know for sure, and we don't yet, which I'm okay with. Many others aren't okay with that though, so religion is comforting.
The chance of any long string of sequential events seemingly becomes less likely the longer it goes on. Even flipping a coin in sequence over a long period of time may seem like it would be impossible to achieve in a certain sequence, except it did happen in that sequence, it happened in that sequence when you recorded it happening. This is the disconnect between the statistics of past events and the statistics of predicting future events.
“You are like a dude in a field swinging bats at scarecrows.” bRO that line with that delivery! Even if I didn’t already agree with destiny’s take, I still would have flinched at the fact that destiny is a girl’s name.
14:05 It's funny he mentions an infinite chain of universes, because that is one of the theories, that the universe has always existed and it just expands and collapses, starting again with a big bang each time, there are tons of theories for how and why universe does what it does.
The whole god debate reminds me of that debate with that crazy dude asking destiny does he believe good or evil and that it comes from god plus when he kept saying density lost the debate 15 different times but the dude never let destiny talk.
Unfortunately it's neither, they are literally incapable of examining their religious beliefs critically. Most of them have been indoctrinated into it.
I am religious but holy shit dude, if you have to keep shouting to prove your point - you've already lost. My throat hurts from hearing Qorantos scream
I feel like arguing with idiots must be much more tolerable when you are getting paid. I suppose that's how destiny deals with it.
exactly, i would gladly chat with complete morons every day if i could make the money that destiny makes 😆
I've tried to keep that in mind but it's still impressive. Also watch the game screen. He loves watching those numbers go up.
I don't think destiny has a stred of compassion, but it is quite possible in these cases to have some type of earnest care for others and a desire to see them improve.
I've never gotten paid for it...
I'm watching this vid and wondering when will Destiny get older and wiser and realise that the money isn't really worth "debating" these people.
People like Qorantos make me feel better about myself.
he feels better about himself than you ever will
@@wagyubeans1399 He feels so good about himself he hides behind a mask.
@@wagyubeans1399 thats usually how stupid people are
@@wagyubeans1399 i'm sure it feels great to hide behind a ski mask because you're so cripplingly stupid you don't want to also be made fun of for your appearance
@@wagyubeans1399 Mentally challenged people also generally feel better about themselves compared to the general population so great argument :)
I wish Destiny and Jidion talked more without Qorantos impulsive interruptions, He needs to learn when to take a seat back and let conversations flow
Hes cool to have around when convos are boring but man when hes not really needed hes loud and annoying 💀
God as soon as I realised Qorantos was in the debate I hesitated on watching it. The guy is fucking insufferable.
@Y Y he sounds like him too 😂. The sarcastic trolling gets old
Why? Jidion’s videos are funny but that’s all there really is to the guy. He isn’t particularly smart or insightful
You mean Qurantos
how DERANGED youd have to be to think destiny lost that debate with daniel hequequieuq is insane that is one of the worst thrashings ive ever seen in a debate destinys record isnt perfect but that may be his biggest blowout
i like Qorantos' ability to roll with the punches but he is bought into his ideology so hard he cant think logically
People are willing to bend facts of the matter a little bit in order for them to fall into their worldview better
Destiny lost the first ever debate and even conceded to it about liberalism but the 2nd the debate about Andrew he won
@@g33p61 bruh religion and logic are incompatible
He had a pretty valid argument. Destiny kept saying he doesnt know the answer so why trash on people who think they know the answer?
Qorantos is giving me brain rot
Qorantos is giving me brain rot!
Nah but hes hilarious asf
qorantos is giving me brain, rot!
@@slicer-ld9ho hes giving you what... 👁👄👁
Welcome to RUclips ca. 2008.
JiDion falling for the psychic act.
Cold reading is how it works.
They use vague guessing and let you fill in the blanks.
If she was psychic she would be 100% accurate with what she will say directly.
Probably a mix of hot and cold. Her getting the name of his public merch... Like come on, people can do hot readings on randoms with social media, let alone an online content producer. I'm not surprised JiDion fell for it tho. This sort of duping is a career that's existed successfully for a looong time. There's a sucker born every minute!
While i agree my sister did have a weird experience. She believes is psychics and she went to hers. She did do some cold readings but it went like this (she records them)
Psy-You have a brother?
Sis-yes
Psy- hes expecting?
Sis- no i just went out drinking with his wife last weekend
Psy- you might want to tell her not to drink because i see her with child and with a boy
I shit you not 3 days later we found out we were pregnant and its a boy. I know its alot of cold readings but it was crazy coincidence for you not to be a little "holy shit is this shit real". My sister didnt even tell me about it till after because she though the reading was off but she showed me the recording after.
@@thrash208 or she went to the psychic after and had her make some shit up so you would stop making fun of her
@@thrash208 you dont find out the sex of the baby at the same time as you discover the pregnancy. The pregnancy test can be taken at home or at a doctors office. That can detect within the first few weeks. The gender test has to be sent to a lab and only after 12 weeks. So already your timeline has some holes, unless you’re telling it wrong
@@novacancy5806 Man was probably wearing his own merch at the time lmao
Dan is 100% right about qorantos. Every time he is on stream no one else can talk, no discussion can happen except for Qorantos screaming into his Tyler1 ass mic ruining everything. to think there would come a day i wished for the sweet release of Zherka.
Zherka got destroyed by qorantos...the dude just next level schizo
Once Destiny stops letting him on his stream, he will fade back into irrelevancy.
Considering how boring his arguments are, I don't expect Destiny to tolerate him much longer
My prediction is he's using his religion to get stream clout with Destiny. Even in the first debate, he kept screaming and mindlessly rambling and said nothing useful. He keeps coming on again n again for the clout. A devout Muslim wouldn't hang out with Destiny like Qurantoes. You never see people like Daniel or any other Muslim hang out with Destiny like Qtoes, they wouldn't like it or be interested. He's basically a bad Muslim, and kinda gay with the way he keeps bringing up homosexuality.
QuranPotatoes will be gone soon he's just defending every questionable part of his religion and references people like Daniel Hikipikachu the pedo defender and now Tate's points as his own and defends both based on religious grounds purely but don't dare question it. Dude doesn't have any opinions of his own
@@sudev29 I don't agree with this framing of "Muslims would never hang with Destiny like he does", while there are "bad" muslims, Qurantoes seems to be more of an annoying person that happens to be Muslim. But he's definitely using the "Muslim" card to keep himself afloat around Destiny.
I appreciated Trains breakdown of psychics. He was kind, but I was relieved he said flat out "you were duped" instead of holding Jidions hand. His analysis was spot on and is especially true if a person is grieving or going through alot emotionally.
Jidion is gullible af.
What do you believe? Nothing?
@@slcindiatv2945 wanna buy some snake oil from me, lil bro? only $99.99
@@slcindiatv2945 Did you hear his 'supernatural' experience.
@@reddillon8425 No thanks I am not into evolution snake oil or genders theories
@@kauswekazilimani3736 Yes, and maybe you should watch his video. There are plenty of real paranormal experiences. For example almost 30 girls that played. Ouiji Board were hospitalised somewhere in South America.
I know people that talk to independent entities that pretend to be ascended master or aliens, some think they talk to dead relatives. There ar people that agreed to go in an experience with a satanist ( that looked very friendly but was a real satanist) and puted people into a cabine then took them out and asked what they did in there, they said they did absolutely nothing ( this was in front of an audience ) then he showed the video cause he was filming inside and despite they were unconscious, they were moving, throwing things, writing etc… one of them literally screamed for his life and left panicking, I still can hear his scream. Those things are not natural but it doesn’t fit the agenda of the satanic people that rule the world and lead it to a new world order.
Yes religions are controlled but that doesn’t one isn’t real.
By the way evolution has evolved, there is no proof of life appearing instantly from nothing. Even theoldest fossils compared to animals we still possess like crocodiles for example just proves there was zero evolution between the fossil and the crocodile and all the animals appeared complete as we know them. Zero evidences of morphing into other animals
He’s literally using the most elementary arguments for the existence of god , I totally get why my girl destiny didn’t want to engage
As a believer, this was hard to watch. He couldn't even defend the most common objections to the arguments for God. It's like if you aren't prepared for the objections that come up most often why even bring up the argument? It's disappointing because there are really good refutations of Destiny's points and I'd love to see him engage with the best versions of these arguments...
@@sydneemikumuren9812 there are no good versions of these arguments, because they all boil down to why isnt science able to explain literally everything.
Based, keep the joke going homies
If God isn't real then prove it, atheist
@@dv2945 cant disproof a negative, nice bait.
I love train giving this great explanation of cold readings and destiny silently getting annoyed that his character targeted the wrong zombie and got killed for it
Edit: happens around 18:23
his fault for playing Great Value Starcraft, he needs to start playing games that don't suck
@knockout yup, entirely
when you add comments like this, please include timestamps. now i wonder when it happened
@@aykansozugecer8743 my bad homie, added it to the comment
@knockout 6.8 userscore on metacritic says game's mid af
And we all see the play footage, it's just some dude's Starcraft 1 custom map he made after getting high and reading cherie priest's boneshaker
The fact that Jidion got swindled by a psychic and thinks that It's evidence of the supernatural is hilarious.
The fact that Jideon believes this cold reading chick got “everything right” HAHAHAHAH. Dude, YOU CAN BE GOOGLED
Thats what Im confused about too. How does he know what that chick was doing before they met? She could have had his info a while ago just by virtue of him being on the internet.
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba A question that should’ve been asked was what information did he give when booking the appointment, and if he used his real name while booking the appointment.
Didn't he go to some bumfuck town in the south any an army of high schoolers knew him and got hyped?
Why doesn't he roll out to the psychic and get her on stream? Let's get hundreds of people and I want her stare into their eyes, ask no questions, and correctly state that person's specific school major and number of years, what field they're working in and for how long, how many cousins they have, etc., and do it with near perfect accuracy and consistency for the entire sample.
Surely if she has real power she'd be up for the task :)
Too many people are susceptible to that type of BS. It's honestly sad.
That’d be a hot read.
Qorantos is already my least favorite recurring antagonist in the Destinyverse, and fucking Lav and Max are also on that list.
@@bigtoe-ws7ew preferably when he's not screaming into his mic everything that pops into his head.
he's like louder, more annoying Zherka with a little Darrius mixed in
@@NazoXIII i think he'd be bearable, at least, if he fixed his stupid fucking audio settings. this motherfucker gives me a headache every time i listen to the stream
Might be unpopular opinion i dont mind him i like it when him and destiny go at its very amusing
I don't get how you can put him in the same universe as Lav and Max. Sure he's dumb and loud, but he's good faith and seems to remain chill after an argument
I'm willing to concede that he's not as bad as they are in terms of their life ruining bullshit but... good faith? Where?
Damn times like these make me remember that train is actually pretty smart
Smart person that did ALLLOT of drugs
@@MrMctastics i read somewhere that having a higher iq is linked to increased drug use. not sure if its true or not but i can see it being true.
man qorantos literally never brings any value to anything i’ve ever seen him in lmao
@@Diego-og7nk wym? i’m watching a “debate” all i’m saying is qorantos adds zero value to the debate and always fails to understand simple points from anyone he’s talking to lmao
@@Diego-og7nk by debate i don’t mean a formal debate just two dudes with differing opinions arguing about the issue. why you tryna make your comments condescending lmfao chill with the semantics ykwim.
@@Diego-og7nk lmao mf said "buddy" at the end of a sentence. Like cmon bruh, how are people gonna take you seriously?
@@rl_mel Leave him alone. He is just British.
It is unreal how intelligent Train really is lol
yeah people dont really understand train and what he does offline or behind the scenes
I wouldn’t call him intelligent but he is really good at breaking down an argument using Socratic method.
@@ScholarlyCynic He definitely is intelligent. Compared to mega intelligent people no but he is definitely well above average in intelligence
@@numbsociety see that's above average intelligence
I think he has 2 degrees lol, one in philosophy and biochemistry
He's asking destiny to prove a negative then won't provide any for his own claim.
Exactly. It's like asking someone to prove 100% that unicorns don't exist.
It's 2012 all over again.
I mean you can prove a negative. Can you prove to me that 2+2=5?
@@evolution__snow6784 There are some negatives that can be proved. The majority of negatives can't though.
For example, address my previous comment. Prove to me 100% that unicorns don't exist.
@@evolution__snow6784 This only works though using proof of contradiction, which implies there are pre-existing facts that can be used to disprove. Things like "god" existing do not have set rules, hence you can't really disprove if there are already no agreed-upon facts.
Immediately after Dijon was done explaining about his s̶c̶a̶m̶ supernatural experience with the fortune teller, Qorantos came to the defence of a "higher power", but he's inadvertently supporting witchcraft, which is an offence in Sharia sometimes punishable by death.
no performing witchcraft on people can be punishable by death. wich they see as more harmfull than killing a person.
Technically even a Muslim could use witchcraft as evidence for mysticism. Even Shaitan is real to a Muslim.
Well, it's not particularly unintentional support of performing witchcraft. He's arguing for the existence of witchcraft which seems to line up with his view of the world.
How is he supporting witchcraft by arguing that it's real? You can disagree with people without completely misrepresenting what they're saying and sounding restarted.
@@sigmar40k Sihr("magic") in Islam is forbidden, and must never be considered an acceptable practice as it's the work of the Shaytaan (devil). To say that witchcraft is a good argument for the existence of the supernatural (i.e God) is to elevate and equate the work of the devil with that of God. After Jidion was done, Quranos never pushed back, he built upon what Jidion said when he continued to argue for the supernatural (in his sense-God).
Restarted.
It's time for Qorantos to go away. He's had his time and now its up.
Comment aged like wine 🍷
Thank Allah this came true 😂😂😂
I can't lie I'm really enjoying these religious debates lmao
Like Zherka said, if you weren't 16 and realised God exists, then you mentally are a child. It's why Steven is so small and has a child brain.
@@scaryjoker ok the joker, just keep in mind god is watching you finger your ass every night.
Qorantus: "Stop soying out Destiny."
*S O Y S O U T T H E E N T I R E D E B A T E*
JiDion arguing for the existence of 🎅🏻: Dude, I *know* it wasn‘t my mom who took a bite from those cookies we set out, because when we baked them I asked her if she wanted one and she said no.
Lol
Ironic how qorantos talks about being inflammatory towards people who don't believe the same thing as you, and about believing in something 100% no matter what. Yet in the same breath with also say he believes in religion 100% but has no foundation based on reason and will flame you for not 100% believing in knowing that you understand the universe perfectly even though he again, says that's what you do.
It's 100% projection.
Don't expect the religious to back anything they say without stupidity or sophistry.
@@Namasknight What? It seems you have an intense hatred of religions.
Islam is evil, don’t listen to qorantos
@@hachelyd_i3232 can you give a proper reply? Rather than assumption
Jideon is literally sub 100 IQ.
His name is in the title and you still spelt it wrong. Ironic.
But yes, Jidion did come across as extremely stupid here
Whats your IQ?
@@sagen06 Sufficient enough to be smarter than J so atleast 75+ IQ
and?
JiDion has a Sneako level of critical thinking, which means pretty much a negative amount.
Its not much better than arrogant pseudo intellectuals like destiny and his fanboys.
@@jonz23m ❄❄❄❄❄❄
@@jonz23m go get a psychic reading
Dude makes Prank content what do you expect
Yall remember that time he added Packgod to the panel with Him, Destiny and Nick Fuentes…..sucks that you have that JiDion sometimes and then other times you get the JiDion that has a civil conversation with a racist and asks to come to his church
can’t believe jidion would or would not say that
I disagree
Pure bad faith debate tactics 🙄
I was honestly surprised with how much or how little he was talking
The way he believes or doesn’t believe that is astounding
Destiny: It's called cold reading they say super vague stuff and narrow in on what you react to.
Jidion: No, she knew I had 3 nieces
D: What did she specifically say?
J: She said "you have 3 small things you take care of but don't have full control over" and I was like damn she's talking about my nieces.
...bruh
Exactly that could have just been pets, plants, children etc. He just filled in the blank for her
I didn't realize JiDion's brain was this broken, yikes...
If you're not making purely artistic content, you need to be willing to be seen as stupid, which is okay... But it seems like his friends are as stupid or more stupid for not telling him about cold reading, even without knowing the exact word for it. It's hard to dig yourself out of these pit holes on your own
I mean, I'm pretty sure the vast majority of people stumbling around Earth have brains that are just as broken
@@llortaton2834 >the vast majority of people don't believe in magic
>85% of people are religious
@@llortaton2834 don't forget you said planet that includes other countries and religious africans 100% believe in hard magic
Bro Qurantos may be the most smooth brained individual I have ever seen. Bro doesn't have a single critical though in his head.
How was he wrong?
@@pillowboy7995 bro, a better question is how you think he was right
@@benihorvath9478 don't even remember this vid bruh destiny fell off long ago
Lol another L for Qorantos
JiDion misses the mark today. Usually he would stumble his way to a right idea but he couldn’t do it today 😢
He didn’t really have the chance considering the Muslim guy just took over
Using the human body as an example to argue that "everything's perfect" and God exists is braindead. The knee, spine, appendix, and more are terrible.
Especially when you consider things like allergies, auto immune diseases, cancer…
Confidence:evidence ratio is off the charts😭😭😭
Jidion:”I have proof of the super natural “
Us:”oh really? What ya got”
Jidion:”I went to a psychic, and deadass she knew some things “
Us:”for fucks sake 🤦♂️”
This guy makes sneko and Anden look smart and calm debaters.😂
This guy is actually a good and quick witted debatter. He might be wrong but he does know his debate tactics anf mechanics
@@kc_h7h being loud and annoying arent good debate tactics, they just make people not want to debate because its not worth the effort lol
@@NixViche he still bodied destiny though
@@pillowboy7995take some Narcan, you’re experiencing a copium overdose.
Qorantos: are you done soy-ing out?
Also Qorantos: *proceeds to soy out*
Man what a blast from the past
Feels like I am 15 again, hanging out on RUclips watching Atheists own the silly religious people
Check out the Atheist experience. They do it every week lol
Fedora tipping intensifies
I feel old now lmao
"You're telling me the cognitive dissonance is so high-" Yes. I mean... Just listen to yourself. Obviously yes.
That cup analogy did not hit as hard as he thought it did
Bro I literally couldn’t wrap my mind around why the earth was a fucking cup 😂
The problem with all these stupid religious “gotchas” is that they don’t get us any closer to believing scripture. Let’s just say we grant that god must have created the universe…how do we get from there not eating pork or homosexuality being a sin?
@@TonyCox1351 Very easily. You look to see if God has ever revealed anything to humans about himself. Looking at the universe, it is obvious there is a will and direction for things, so its unlikely God would be like an absent father, after allowing and cultivating the conditions for life to exist.
@@abrarbiswas1239 well don’t leave me in suspense…has god ever revealed anything about himself?
@@abrarbiswas1239 Why are you assuming that there is a will behind the universe?
34:06 Destiny triggered him so hard with that snipe.
Open video. Heard that guy who tries to shout over people. Nah. Why would this lady upload this in the middle of the night? I support women but, destiny is really losing her mind uploading this.
This is 9 am for me so perfect
The only woman to blame is Augustina
Her editor, who is literally a month of the year, is probably the one that uploaded it
Please don't have conversations with Qurantos dude or whatever his name is. It's just not interesting. Jidion is less intelligent but the conversation with him would have been much more interesting.
I feel like I’m back in 2017 during my deconversion hearing this conversation.
Jidion is sharing an experience with a REAL practitioner of psychometry -- unlike Notsoerudite, who only calls herself a psychometrist. How many times have you seen Erudite pick up a medallion and read its psychic resonance? I've never seen that shit.
Lol, underrated meme.
I DIDNT RUN I DIDNT RUN I DIDNT RUN
Jidion got cold read and he doesn't even know it.
I think he realized once he had it explained 7 times. He connected the dots; he just didn't wanna entertain the possibility that he may have gotten conned. Especially when he connected that fortune teller experience to his religious beliefs.
"LET ME TELL YOU HOW YOU'RE BEING SO SOY WHY ARE YOU SOYING OUT SOY SOY SOY SOY SOY SOYYYYY" the sound of someone confident and secure in their position
It’s hilarious how fast opinions on qorantos flipped lol
It's funny at first but mostly because he was just being loud and obnoxious while not trying to make a point.
... I thought he was just being funny the first time I didn't think he was actually this ugh... r(worded)
Qorantos is the single easiest way to kill any sort of interesting conversation
I just started listening to destiny a few days ago and I can’t understand how he keeps debating complete morons.
I can’t understand how all these people aren’t 4D trolls
Dude gets cold reading explained to him and next thing it’s
WELL, we prayed
and then I took random underwear and rubbed chocolate on it -and said it belonged to this dude
and then I took a photo of the dude to her
Then she got the energy from rubbing the dude in the photo
and then got my energy…
AND THEN ASKED IF WE WERE HOMOSEXUALS!
-did you say homosexual?
Na, homie-sexuals!
THATS MY BRAND. IM TOTALLY NOT GAY!
So ANYWAYS, that’s my proof of the supernatural and why I support this raging muslim.
the guy who said those was Christian, though
most of his debates throughout the years have been against some of the stupidest people imaginable but it's always good content lmao
Jidion has like 7m subs he can be stupid and Destiny will still speak to him lol
You just made a bad judgement cause judion doesn’t support Ishlam, he just respect people ( unlike you ) and that supernatural experience is not why he believes in God.
By the way there are a lot of people who went far into the occult, had a rough time and did a lot of of crappy things cause of that way of life but at the end they realised the entities they were listening to were fallen angels and had bad intentions
@@slcindiatv2945 in the real world we call those people mentally ill.
if the devil can be cured by you taking some antipsychotics, he's probably not really the devil.
Holy shit Jidion is such a bot lol
Entertainers very often are not the brightest people in the room. Also it seems like there is certain group of people that just want to believe everything that has to do with religion or supernatural shit.
He’s still better than the other qorantos guy
I kind of reject that characterization of Jidion. When I think of a bot, I think of someone very closed minded. Jidion seems like a normal dude for a lot of stuff he's wrong about, but he seems much more willing than most people to consider that he's wrong and learn.
The average person has no fucking clue what cold reading is. It's incredibly easy to be taken in by these kinds of things unless you actually have read up on the topic.
@@jenispizz2556 Ok penis jizz, imo all the people that would be incredibly easy to manipulate with "supernatural" fancy tricks like you're saying are also bots. Easily programmable and mold-able. Immense lack of logic and deductive reasoning skills. So guess we just got different definitions.
was anybody else dying laughing when jidion was talking about the psychic? it's like a 7 year old talking about a psychic for the first time
Psychic was over the phone and dude doesn't think that she looked him up. lol
Wait they weren't face to face?
@@tarfielarchelone2674 If I understood his story correctly, it sounds like he spoke to her over the phone first, and then met her in person after. There was a comment where he said he was talking to her on the phone, and then parts where he spoke of the camera crew and taking a photo and chain to her in person. I could be wrong, but that's what it sounded like to me.
Train is the most unintentional funny person on the internet haha
always the Muslims putting women down.
Muslims protect their women. Atheists put their women on onlyfans.
"If there's no God then how is the Earth and universe perfectly made for us" is such a self centered argument it would be like mold asking "if there's no God then how is this stale food perfect for us" like, the Earth doesn't exist FOR us, rather we exist as a result of variables that made the Earth what it is.
Exactly, it's literally the puddle argument.
Yes let's ignore the law of probality.
@@vvillhelmzecheekclapper7984 you dont know how probability works. also referring to something as stupid as "the" law of probability is beyond brainrotting. go back to school
@@vvillhelmzecheekclapper7984 yeah true, Destiny said our universe isn't random, which isn't true, universe is random. Many things happen because of inter-atomic reactions which are random.
As someone who does divination through tarot. It's all just psychological tricks. It's very "real" in that we are able to tell you what you need to hear but we build on vagueness and from that are able to get more and more specific.
The guy with destiny demonstrated right there exactly that. The psychic didnt predict 3 nieces she made a vague statement and made him think that
tldr; “its all conjecture we pulled it out our ass”
@@subashira pretty much.
What is the trick when they don't ask questions? The only "psychic" I've ever encountered just straight up told me specific things without asking a single question or getting my input. Idk how she did it, I even lied when I got uncomfortable and it didn't throw her off.
@@halofornoobs93 were u asked to think about the answers in any way?
Did the psychic put question in ur head forst before telling u facts about u?
Your lucky I'm an insomniac otherwise I'd be whining about missing this upload
Jidion has such surface level thoughts and opinions 😭 if he always loses in debates with sneako how tf would he debate wit destiny
If the fortune teller wasn't a fan, and one of Jidions friends told her all that shit, that guy is probably pretty nervous now that Jidion bases his worldview on that interview...
Qorantos: "I GOT A KNIFE!!!"
Destiny & Train: "Ahh it's a shitty one"
*Goes back to yelling*
Islam is gay.
Qorantos needs to have coffee or something, the guys way to low energy.
Also wish he’d speak up a little he’s hard to hear.
Haha it is truly wonderful to hear Qorantos panicking while debating with Destiny. Those sweet sweet "you're short so you're wrong" arguments really nail his point down
i love that train just unbox cases
Please no more religious debates...I feel my brain rotting away. I used to watch the atheist experience and shit man. The religious people use the same arguments which leads the atheist to using the same arguments and then you just hear the same thing over and over and over again. It's exhausting.
Qorantos try not to take over the panel challenge: difficulty impossible
Discount zherka hella anoying.
Geez... Qurantos thought he had Destiny on the ropes with his cup analogy. Then, He got yeeted by the watchmaker analogy. 👏👏
Quarantos with the early 2010s boomer religious arguments I fucking can't
Right….. “Only Abrahamic religions are allowed into heaven” which forgets about the billions of others now and in the past. So loving and accepting.
Oh boy.... JiDion.... Just the shining beacon of maturity and intelligence these types of conversations need..
the fact that Destiny said many times that he didn’t wanna argue about religion and the guy didn’t respect his wishes and instead, pushed and harassed him. that already makes you look bad enough as a content creator. plus Destiny has made many good points. he did very good when he brought up him being willing to be honest and say idk.
Jidion is 100% describing an experience with hot reading. It would explain why the person didn't want more information from him, because after all the effort of looking him up, they wouldn't want extra info from him to make the hot reading less effective. As for how they did it, they either would have taken information from the booking of the appointment, or bugs in the waiting room to get info to look him up. His "I only had 200k subs" then thing is nonsense, because psychics use this shit against people with 0 subs. Also, there are large prizes available for psychics that are able to prove they have powers under test conditions agreed to by them and a testing body, and no one has ever been able to do it. Psychics have never been shown to exist.
Is Qurantos sent here to punish us for a lack of quality orbitors.... Its like Destiny went to a Call of Duty teamspeak server from 2013 and was like get me the most edgelord caffeiened up 15 year old I want to boost him and put him on stream. Destiny is a 34 year old dude arguing with a 21 year old internet-bro, like we gotta get better content than this
People who are super into their religion will never be opened minded and it’s saddening tbh
So fun he get’s soo mad at destiny 💀
Train's cold reading explanation was good I liked it
23:46 is it unfair to assume that qorontos is so bought into this bc he can't cope with a purposeless reality
Yo I was waiting for Destiny to just say "yes, life has no purpose" and see his reaction lmao
qorantos makes my head hurt, even if he would say something valid id want to invalidate him xd
Invasion of irak was a disgrace to humanity done by USA this the only point that i have to agree with this guy
Jidion is basically every toddler who first sees magic
If you told me Jidion was 7 years old I would believe it
And on the 9th day, Alan hit the penjamin and came up with the Platypus. Praise Alan.
JiDion's psychic story is either a massive cope, or a "prank" on the entire call considering that's his whole shtick.
This just in: Nardwuar is a psychic any time he interviews minor celebrities.
I never thought Jon Zherka would sound intelligent until I heard Qurantos speaking and mad coping
Well that doesn't mean Jon is intelligent, Qorantos is just even less intelligent.
Qorantos says "Stop Soying Out", but is constantly screaming like a child. What a joke he is. Stop engaging with this guy.... please
I don't see how anyone could see that last debate and say Steven lost
I love the cup of water analogy.
Destiny finds the cup of water, brings it to you. "Hey, I found this cup of water. I don't know where it came from."
Qorantos finds the same cup of water, brings it to you. "Hey, I found this cup of water. It was created by a magic man in the sky. I didn't see him pour it, and I don't know how he poured it, but I know for a fact that he poured it because I read it in a book that was written over a thousand years ago."
WHICH ONE OF US IS CRAZY?
I love this, might use this around the dinner table with the family, see how mad they get 🤣
Nothing wrong with believing in God. One can believe in both God and science.
@@hachelyd_i3232 Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I'm simply calling out how silly the example Qorantos was attempting to use is.
@@avastone5539 Which is the exact reason when someone tells me that they know, for a fact, where we, the universe, and everything in existence comes from, I'm immediately skeptical. Truth is there's no way to know for sure until you know for sure, and we don't yet, which I'm okay with. Many others aren't okay with that though, so religion is comforting.
That cup literally have a manufacturer 😂
Most exciting part of this video was at 8:55 when Destiny misclicked and almost sent Caelus to his death.
The chance of any long string of sequential events seemingly becomes less likely the longer it goes on. Even flipping a coin in sequence over a long period of time may seem like it would be impossible to achieve in a certain sequence, except it did happen in that sequence, it happened in that sequence when you recorded it happening. This is the disconnect between the statistics of past events and the statistics of predicting future events.
“You are like a dude in a field swinging bats at scarecrows.”
bRO that line with that delivery! Even if I didn’t already agree with destiny’s take, I still would have flinched at the fact that destiny is a girl’s name.
That Muslim dude is crazy can’t even have a conversation
me, an aussie, absolutely vibing with this upload time
14:05 It's funny he mentions an infinite chain of universes, because that is one of the theories, that the universe has always existed and it just expands and collapses, starting again with a big bang each time, there are tons of theories for how and why universe does what it does.
I wanna see a Destiny and Jidion one on one convo.
39:00 ok this was fucking funny
The whole god debate reminds me of that debate with that crazy dude asking destiny does he believe good or evil and that it comes from god plus when he kept saying density lost the debate 15 different times but the dude never let destiny talk.
Muslims try not to excuse crimes against humanity challenge: Impossible
There is no way I can believe that these religious debaters are not either trolls or bad faith.
Unfortunately it's neither, they are literally incapable of examining their religious beliefs critically. Most of them have been indoctrinated into it.
How was he wrong?
I am religious but holy shit dude, if you have to keep shouting to prove your point - you've already lost. My throat hurts from hearing Qorantos scream
Throat functions as your ears?