Remember when all those poketubers used to attack you over promoting investing in modern and not vintage. Now all of those guys are pretty much gone and don’t post videos anymore now that vintage is dead. I often wonder if they ever got all that egg off there faces
@@Darko0699 oh it happened for a year or two lol. Sqeaks, Pokenav, Pokenomics just to name a few. They also don’t make videos anymore, left once they couldn’t push the vintage they owned
@Robert-ju1zb i just started collecting and idk if I want to go full investment yet but my sealed collection is literally paying for my singles even if i don't pull anything good
This video 👌👌👌 I couldn’t agree more and it baffles me that people don’t understand the difference. I’d even add to what you said with a few points. Firstly you do not get any thrill for buying the cards, people like sealed because they want the thrill of pulling it yourself, they want the gamble that comes with it. Secondly I work in the motor industry, all classic cars are terrible to drive nowadays, people don’t buy them because they perform better, they buy them for the nostalgia! And the same applies to cards! Sometimes it may be a poor set but if that was your first set in the hobby it means more regardless of the individual cards value. Love the content man keep up the good work 👍
Brother if Alex has an extra $100 on the side it's going towards a booster box not a mic, THATS WHY HES AN AWESOME INVESTOR **Rolls eyes while loudly chewing bagle in my boxers**
Great video…again. I want to point out an important thing. The box breaks contribute to the success of the hobby in a large way. People will always participate in buying a few packs on live streams in hopes of putting less money upfront for a chance to obtain a major chase card worth MORE than what they are willing to risk. This also affects supply and demand from a sealed product perspective. People will continue to buy sealed for breaks and the cycle will continue. It’s a win win for almost everyone
Deals are still out there. Stopped in at one of my lgs’s and was surprised to see two Battle Styles bb’s on the shelf. They were $90 when they sold out months ago so I asked how much they were….shocked when they said $90. Owner found three somewhere and put one in their gravity box and other two on shelf. Yes I bought the other two….
Bang on 💯👍. Definitely, a good refresher to watch. I am still relative new to Pokémon investing, have you seen a reprint of any set(s) or other TCGs after the 2-3 year released period?
I don't remember which one, but there was one that got reprinted in a 3,5 year window. Roaring Skies? Don't remember, but there is some sets. But I wouldnt worry to much about it if you're holding, what people will rip in the future is much more important. Like CZ. Printed to the ground, but will be ripped alot as well many years in the future
@jellypete2338 I'm 32 and I've never seen any Pokemon anything more than I've seen giant boxes of CZ at Walmart. When I think about Pokemon I imagine the CZ ETB. I actually think everyone saw so much CZ for so long it'll definitely have a nostalgia element in several years.
Saw a pic from pokehive’s story of Paldea cases they got. They all said not for sale until June 9th 2023. So it’s def a restock from the look of things
I can say that you are correct about how opening any booster boxes or literally any Pokemon card-related thing only results in you only losing your money. If you're in it simply for reselling then most of your stuff should be sealed and put away. Almost none of those cards will ever be worth the price of that booster box or any Pokemon card-related item as you had said yourself. It doesn't matter if the box came out today or tomorrow under no circumstances is opening it up worth it and the chances of getting that card and the chances of it coming back as a 10 are slim to zero.
I just starting to collect sealed, but I'm a singles guy all the way. I have over 6k worth if singles from all eras. That charmander ir from 151 is popping off. Maybe I just have the right ones, but my collection keeps going up in value, I have them all in the tcgplayer app to keep track. That moonbreon is doing amazing too even still. Great videos, man!
That isn't the case for every card 4:25. When we were kids me and my sister would open up a ton of Legendary Treasures Pack and you wouldn't believe how many times we pulled that full art Mew card and it sells for 60 dollars... It's one of the most common EX cards and it sells for a dumb price. At most, it should be 40 dollars.
Great open and honest discussion with objective reasoning and I appreciate someone who can clearly explain their thoughts and welcomes criticism. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
This is exactly how I view Pokemon vs Stocks. A stock can always be sold after it was purchased. Sure some people hold forever but the supply can always be sold. With Pokemon, once a box is opened it’s gone forever.
Good video, but there's so many times you would argue with the vintage collectors who would talk about pop reports in modern and you would say population reports dont matter, people dont look at them or care, but your whole (correct) argument at the 4:10 mark and on is that exact argument that population reports do matter. Its the entire supply side of the equation. You talk about fighting the supply side curve, which is correct, I am just confused as to why you used to always say that was a non factor when arguing with vintage collectors.
Alex I know you don't really do Japanese/other languages but have you seen the new drop for the 5th Anniversary Traditional Chinese Premium Box? The Pikachu promo in there looks pretty nice. You think it could be a play?
I think the true skill in investing in singles is too find the undervalued cards, such as the latios latias from team up back then or even cards like the pikachu secret rare from cosmic eclipse that was easy to pull back then, but very popular and cheap
Couldn't agree more. There's very few I've invested in, but I've made out huge each time. That pikachu promo from sword and shield box that's like 50 bucks now, I was buying in bulk for a buck a piece. Sold em once they hit 25, but made big. Next one I'm going for is mewtwo 052 from UPC
Imo, sealed products investment has in its favour that your market are both sealed colector and cards collectors. Yeah, probably It Will not sell in the highest price as a card, but you still can make lots of profit with a quicker sell
Card prices are based on what's in fashion & sealed is based on how many are left, two are different markets that is how i explain it to people anyways
Appreciate the reply, and yeah I was thinking this because back then I had a gengar/machamp level x deck from the platinum series and remembered how nice it was to play in game. Not sure if it’s because of playability the value of those singles are crazy high but I guess it’s pretty obvious that it’s due to scarcity over time that brings value to some singles
The Obsidian Flames Pidgeot UR is $10-12 which is a lot more than most UR's because it's super playable. It doesn't seem to have much of an effect on the SIR though (or maybe the SIR would be $3 otherwise and I'm the only person that likes it)
I like the cards but I love the sealed box. I much prefer having that to most chase cards. I would rather have a base set box then a base set Charizard. I own a noble victories and love having that box but realize the singles aren't great and I don't care. On a separate note you've been killing it lately Alex. Keep it up.
common sense says long term the sealed product is worth more than the top chase single in the set the thing is most people don't stick around in the hobby past 5 years before we get a new batch of collectors so with that being said just look at evolving skies moon kitty is worth more than the booster box however not by much especially if you got in at retail prices on evo skies booster boxes means your $300 investment into only 2 boxes is worth more than a moon kitty) eventually over time just 1 booster box will be worth more than double a moon kitty mark my words...but yea moon kitty will forever be a grail that everyone wants its one of those singles everyone wants it'll sadly only go up in price every year with slight market corrections...now with that said short term the singles are superior pickups vs sealed; long term 2+yrs the sealed starts climbing and will eventually surpass singles
You do good work here sir. As someone who works in banking, I can say most (80+%?) people are generally unable to comprehend investing, out of ignorance mostly. Not many (10-%?) people could accurately answer the question...if 49% of cards go to zero and 51% go +100% in the next year...is it a bull or bear market?
@NostalgiaNomics Same, I wouldn't know if I hadn't study economics my entire adult life. But people out here with burger flipping degrees telling you how wrong you are is...laughable, but sad also.
@@BKS_Collections Most retail traders lose money because the don't have the technical know how or emotionally will buy and sell at the wrong time, thats why they tell most people to just buy your investments and hold it. I dont like trading but the crypto cycles have been fairly easy to swing trade/invest every few years with huge ROI potential depending on the asset chosen.
It seems like sealed vintage always held value but it wasn't till recently, COVID-Logan Paul inflation, that the sealed went so crazy while vintage singles stayed relatively cheap. Cannot really rationalize opening vintage at all. It will be interesting to see when the Tag Team/alt art/SIR sets sealed booster boxes goes up if the cards will keep pace or fade like vintage. Seems like for now that is the case. Hopefully we see a new trend where singles and sealed prices go hand in hand.
Not all cards lose their value. Some just stay at the same price forever. Weather or not my card is 5 dollars today or 125 dollars tomorrow I do not care. I simply enjoy the game and the hobby as is.
At the end of the day no matter if it’s 40 years later someone wants to open it and why open it if it was $1000 box with only $100 top card it makes no sense it never can make any sense no one can tell me why it’s that way it’s stupid and it needs to change single should rise with the box the box shouldn’t rise with the single staying stagnant
sometimes on a saturday night after a few beers i like to light a candle and stare at my boxes and imagine all the possibilities... cant do that with a card.
@@neezo979 I do this too. I know my luck. I probably wont pull a chase or anything ever, but when i look at a box, I can imagine the chase is inside 🤣
Your not totally wrong. But having something unopen is rare in it's own right. It's at this truest form. Also people like collect sealed stuff not just the content inside. Bad sets in a way are a good example. The older the less available. It help the IP is huge too
Be careful though Mr. Nomic, we like the people who think packs should be opened or don’t understand how this works. Them being around is what makes sealed so valuable so careful not to convert everyone with your wise words!!
Man, I had a friend bashing me for investing in Pokemon. I LOVE IT. Sealed boxes, at or below MSRP, is the way. Consistency and patience! I just wish I had more time to dedicate to selling and growing a “brand”.
Simple rule. Collect cards you enjoy. If they go up, they go up. If you spot cards that are undervalued then buy and sell via short term plays. Sealed hold and sell when the price hits the target price you believe the sealed item to be. If you are buying sealed and panicking over 1-3 years after buying then your not investing. Your purely hoping for a gamble on a fomo situation or rare outlier. Your a wannabe flipper in lehmans terms. People need to chill in the pokemon space. Too mucb stress and impatience in the community
Your first video was kinda bad because its only from the standpoint to buy at marketprice/ on the high but if you put some effort into buying under market(which is defintely possible) you can make a lot of money with singles, also longterm
Buying sealed product is just much easier, but also takes much more space. I also prefer sealed product but investing in singles is not a rocket science
However, it says sealed produce should NOT rise because of the single market!.. Have no idea what they’re doing and shouldn’t invest in principle. These people don’t understand supply and demand and they think having an opinion on something they have no idea what they talking about, somehow makes them think they have an edge?! HOW?!! How arrogant are you. LMAO
@@NostalgiaNomics plenty of people see your channel it's growing good job 👍🏼 and it's actually helped me and I've only been watching a couple weeks, there's alot to know and I just returned collecting like so many others, I need to know what to open and what to hold, selling doubles to stores at a % is not doing much towards further investment 🤔😕
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Remember when all those poketubers used to attack you over promoting investing in modern and not vintage. Now all of those guys are pretty much gone and don’t post videos anymore now that vintage is dead. I often wonder if they ever got all that egg off there faces
Yes i do remember those times and I wonder the same thing 🤣
Really ? That happened ? Can you Tell me who ? 😂 Btw NOW i could understand someone invest Vintage and speculate. But modern is just more safe
@@Darko0699 oh it happened for a year or two lol. Sqeaks, Pokenav, Pokenomics just to name a few. They also don’t make videos anymore, left once they couldn’t push the vintage they owned
I collect cards as a hobby. I collect sealed product as investment. If my cards appreciate, thats great, but ill enjoy them regardless.
@@RobertZ1991 This is the best way to do it. Same here!
Same bruther!
@Robert-ju1zb i just started collecting and idk if I want to go full investment yet but my sealed collection is literally paying for my singles even if i don't pull anything good
Good take. Same
Same!!
9:17 yes exactly, you can absolutely profit from buying and selling singles, but the gains are not normalized the way sealed is!
This video 👌👌👌 I couldn’t agree more and it baffles me that people don’t understand the difference. I’d even add to what you said with a few points. Firstly you do not get any thrill for buying the cards, people like sealed because they want the thrill of pulling it yourself, they want the gamble that comes with it. Secondly I work in the motor industry, all classic cars are terrible to drive nowadays, people don’t buy them because they perform better, they buy them for the nostalgia! And the same applies to cards! Sometimes it may be a poor set but if that was your first set in the hobby it means more regardless of the individual cards value.
Love the content man keep up the good work 👍
Pumping the vids out! Keep going man. 🚀
Man, your content is great but please invest in a mic. The sound quality of your videos needs to be improved.
Are you death then? Can hear him fine lol
@@pez6905I know right? Lol mic is just fine, people just like to complain about anything and everything.
Yeah I've got no problem hearing him
I think the sound quality is fine
Brother if Alex has an extra $100 on the side it's going towards a booster box not a mic, THATS WHY HES AN AWESOME INVESTOR **Rolls eyes while loudly chewing bagle in my boxers**
Great video…again.
I want to point out an important thing. The box breaks contribute to the success of the hobby in a large way. People will always participate in buying a few packs on live streams in hopes of putting less money upfront for a chance to obtain a major chase card worth MORE than what they are willing to risk.
This also affects supply and demand from a sealed product perspective. People will continue to buy sealed for breaks and the cycle will continue. It’s a win win for almost everyone
Deals are still out there. Stopped in at one of my lgs’s and was surprised to see two Battle Styles bb’s on the shelf. They were $90 when they sold out months ago so I asked how much they were….shocked when they said $90. Owner found three somewhere and put one in their gravity box and other two on shelf. Yes I bought the other two….
Bang on 💯👍. Definitely, a good refresher to watch. I am still relative new to Pokémon investing, have you seen a reprint of any set(s) or other TCGs after the 2-3 year released period?
I don't remember which one, but there was one that got reprinted in a 3,5 year window. Roaring Skies? Don't remember, but there is some sets. But I wouldnt worry to much about it if you're holding, what people will rip in the future is much more important. Like CZ. Printed to the ground, but will be ripped alot as well many years in the future
@jellypete2338 I'm 32 and I've never seen any Pokemon anything more than I've seen giant boxes of CZ at Walmart. When I think about Pokemon I imagine the CZ ETB. I actually think everyone saw so much CZ for so long it'll definitely have a nostalgia element in several years.
Base set Zard or Base set box? Cmon peoples!!! Great video as usual brother.🔥🔥
Saw a pic from pokehive’s story of Paldea cases they got. They all said not for sale until June 9th 2023. So it’s def a restock from the look of things
I can say that you are correct about how opening any booster boxes or literally any Pokemon card-related thing only results in you only losing your money. If you're in it simply for reselling then most of your stuff should be sealed and put away. Almost none of those cards will ever be worth the price of that booster box or any Pokemon card-related item as you had said yourself. It doesn't matter if the box came out today or tomorrow under no circumstances is opening it up worth it and the chances of getting that card and the chances of it coming back as a 10 are slim to zero.
I just starting to collect sealed, but I'm a singles guy all the way. I have over 6k worth if singles from all eras. That charmander ir from 151 is popping off. Maybe I just have the right ones, but my collection keeps going up in value, I have them all in the tcgplayer app to keep track. That moonbreon is doing amazing too even still. Great videos, man!
Do you have over $6k worth of singles in the form of a dozen rare cards or is it 30,000 bulk commons collectively last sold for what totals to $6k?
That isn't the case for every card 4:25. When we were kids me and my sister would open up a ton of Legendary Treasures Pack and you wouldn't believe how many times we pulled that full art Mew card and it sells for 60 dollars... It's one of the most common EX cards and it sells for a dumb price. At most, it should be 40 dollars.
Great open and honest discussion with objective reasoning and I appreciate someone who can clearly explain their thoughts and welcomes criticism. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Can you do a video on the yu gi oh 25 th anniversary boxes? Im interested to hear your take on those
He did one last week
This is exactly how I view Pokemon vs Stocks. A stock can always be sold after it was purchased. Sure some people hold forever but the supply can always be sold. With Pokemon, once a box is opened it’s gone forever.
Good video, but there's so many times you would argue with the vintage collectors who would talk about pop reports in modern and you would say population reports dont matter, people dont look at them or care, but your whole (correct) argument at the 4:10 mark and on is that exact argument that population reports do matter. Its the entire supply side of the equation. You talk about fighting the supply side curve, which is correct, I am just confused as to why you used to always say that was a non factor when arguing with vintage collectors.
When all our modern goes to zero sealed has the intrinsic value of being able to be stacked into forts we can live in outside easier 😅
Ya that's my reasoning too. Good thinking!!
Hoodie weather! Great video and information as always dude!
Alex I know you don't really do Japanese/other languages but have you seen the new drop for the 5th Anniversary Traditional Chinese Premium Box? The Pikachu promo in there looks pretty nice. You think it could be a play?
I don't touch any of those other languages. Sorry.
Easily one of the best videos I’ve seen explaining this topic
I think the true skill in investing in singles is too find the undervalued cards, such as the latios latias from team up back then or even cards like the pikachu secret rare from cosmic eclipse that was easy to pull back then, but very popular and cheap
Couldn't agree more. There's very few I've invested in, but I've made out huge each time. That pikachu promo from sword and shield box that's like 50 bucks now, I was buying in bulk for a buck a piece. Sold em once they hit 25, but made big. Next one I'm going for is mewtwo 052 from UPC
Imo, sealed products investment has in its favour that your market are both sealed colector and cards collectors. Yeah, probably It Will not sell in the highest price as a card, but you still can make lots of profit with a quicker sell
Card prices are based on what's in fashion & sealed is based on how many are left, two are different markets that is how i explain it to people anyways
You can turn boxes/packs into cards. But you can’t turn cards into boxes
This is quite a nuanced aspect of the hobby, good job breaking it down, Alex
Great vid as always. One question I have is do you think playability of the individual card in the tcg add value that card?
@kohfosho9548 Short term absolutely!
Appreciate the reply, and yeah I was thinking this because back then I had a gengar/machamp level x deck from the platinum series and remembered how nice it was to play in game. Not sure if it’s because of playability the value of those singles are crazy high but I guess it’s pretty obvious that it’s due to scarcity over time that brings value to some singles
The Obsidian Flames Pidgeot UR is $10-12 which is a lot more than most UR's because it's super playable. It doesn't seem to have much of an effect on the SIR though (or maybe the SIR would be $3 otherwise and I'm the only person that likes it)
I like the cards but I love the sealed box. I much prefer having that to most chase cards. I would rather have a base set box then a base set Charizard. I own a noble victories and love having that box but realize the singles aren't great and I don't care.
On a separate note you've been killing it lately Alex. Keep it up.
Let's not ferget the 2 shipping containers lost at sea one year lol
It's basically collecting sealed and athletics with singles. Singles are more for casual players and sealed is more fun because it's collecting
common sense says long term the sealed product is worth more than the top chase single in the set the thing is most people don't stick around in the hobby past 5 years before we get a new batch of collectors so with that being said just look at evolving skies moon kitty is worth more than the booster box however not by much especially if you got in at retail prices on evo skies booster boxes means your $300 investment into only 2 boxes is worth more than a moon kitty) eventually over time just 1 booster box will be worth more than double a moon kitty mark my words...but yea moon kitty will forever be a grail that everyone wants its one of those singles everyone wants it'll sadly only go up in price every year with slight market corrections...now with that said short term the singles are superior pickups vs sealed; long term 2+yrs the sealed starts climbing and will eventually surpass singles
problem is liquidity. A lot of these booster boxes have a volume of 0-3 sold in the last year on TCGplayer.
Should this be titled ponzinomics for dummies? Lol. Thanks for continuing to provide great content and experienced knowledge.
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I agree with dude if the singles aren’t valuable the sealed product shouldn’t be valuable either
Makes sense
Great video on supply and demand!
you also said sets go up in price because of how hard it is to pull the chase card. 😅
You do good work here sir. As someone who works in banking, I can say most (80+%?) people are generally unable to comprehend investing, out of ignorance mostly. Not many (10-%?) people could accurately answer the question...if 49% of cards go to zero and 51% go +100% in the next year...is it a bull or bear market?
I'm not that smart 😆
@NostalgiaNomics Same, I wouldn't know if I hadn't study economics my entire adult life. But people out here with burger flipping degrees telling you how wrong you are is...laughable, but sad also.
@@BKS_Collections Most retail traders lose money because the don't have the technical know how or emotionally will buy and sell at the wrong time, thats why they tell most people to just buy your investments and hold it. I dont like trading but the crypto cycles have been fairly easy to swing trade/invest every few years with huge ROI potential depending on the asset chosen.
It seems like sealed vintage always held value but it wasn't till recently, COVID-Logan Paul inflation, that the sealed went so crazy while vintage singles stayed relatively cheap. Cannot really rationalize opening vintage at all. It will be interesting to see when the Tag Team/alt art/SIR sets sealed booster boxes goes up if the cards will keep pace or fade like vintage. Seems like for now that is the case. Hopefully we see a new trend where singles and sealed prices go hand in hand.
Not all cards lose their value. Some just stay at the same price forever. Weather or not my card is 5 dollars today or 125 dollars tomorrow I do not care. I simply enjoy the game and the hobby as is.
Go to a large investment firm and tell them how friggin epic it is that your entire portfolio is children’s playing cards
Children are the future 😂
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With the Dock strike, I'd be buying up toilet paper and food brotha, instead of Pokémon cards right now. About to be a civil unrest.
@@weskarp7643 😂
90% of our toilet paper is made in America. Most of our food comes from out west.
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Investing in children’s playing card isn’t an art
@@mrlahey88 absolutely correct, but I think the metaphor stands true
Singles are a gamble. Sealed is a sure thing
At the end of the day no matter if it’s 40 years later someone wants to open it and why open it if it was $1000 box with only $100 top card it makes no sense it never can make any sense no one can tell me why it’s that way it’s stupid and it needs to change single should rise with the box the box shouldn’t rise with the single staying stagnant
The box is rarer than the cards. Can’t be that hard to understand
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sometimes on a saturday night after a few beers i like to light a candle and stare at my boxes and imagine all the possibilities... cant do that with a card.
@@neezo979 I do this too. I know my luck. I probably wont pull a chase or anything ever, but when i look at a box, I can imagine the chase is inside 🤣
Your not totally wrong. But having something unopen is rare in it's own right. It's at this truest form.
Also people like collect sealed stuff not just the content inside.
Bad sets in a way are a good example. The older the less available. It help the IP is huge too
Lol...really. You mentioned Florida? Wow. Glad my stuff is in waterproof boxes 6' in the air!
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Be careful though Mr. Nomic, we like the people who think packs should be opened or don’t understand how this works. Them being around is what makes sealed so valuable so careful not to convert everyone with your wise words!!
Man, I had a friend bashing me for investing in Pokemon. I LOVE IT.
Sealed boxes, at or below MSRP, is the way. Consistency and patience! I just wish I had more time to dedicate to selling and growing a “brand”.
The haters aren't real, it's burner accounts of the Cabal!
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When Nostalgia Nomics Patreon with Paldea Evolved boxes shipped at $110? 😅
It's coming 😁
back to back bangers!
It was all luck! Just leave it at that.
Simple rule. Collect cards you enjoy. If they go up, they go up.
If you spot cards that are undervalued then buy and sell via short term plays.
Sealed hold and sell when the price hits the target price you believe the sealed item to be.
If you are buying sealed and panicking over 1-3 years after buying then your not investing. Your purely hoping for a gamble on a fomo situation or rare outlier. Your a wannabe flipper in lehmans terms.
People need to chill in the pokemon space. Too mucb stress and impatience in the community
Your first video was kinda bad because its only from the standpoint to buy at marketprice/ on the high but if you put some effort into buying under market(which is defintely possible) you can make a lot of money with singles, also longterm
Buying sealed product is just much easier, but also takes much more space. I also prefer sealed product but investing in singles is not a rocket science
However, it says sealed produce should NOT rise because of the single market!.. Have no idea what they’re doing and shouldn’t invest in principle. These people don’t understand supply and demand and they think having an opinion on something they have no idea what they talking about, somehow makes them think they have an edge?! HOW?!! How arrogant are you. LMAO
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If everyone takes your advice noone would play and wed all have boxes... Of course that'll never happen im splitting 2 boxes a day 🤪🥴🤷🏼
Good thing for us no one really watches my channel or takes my vids seriously 😆
@@NostalgiaNomics plenty of people see your channel it's growing good job 👍🏼 and it's actually helped me and I've only been watching a couple weeks, there's alot to know and I just returned collecting like so many others, I need to know what to open and what to hold, selling doubles to stores at a % is not doing much towards further investment 🤔😕
I always appreciate the way you handle constructive criticism.
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