Someone did steal a can of peaches from the canteen tho. Holy mother, has it already been almost ten years, feels like I have just watched it yesterday
Tragic man. US Military went from almost nothing to 8.5 million people. Many people simply were not competent to do the job they were assigned. That was inevitable, creating such a huge army so quickly. Sobel was one such case. He understood physical fitness, he tried to provide leader ship but he didn’t know how to do it, and he did it badly. On top of that, he was incompetent at the tactical skills of small unit leader ship, which thankfully was found out before he was sent into battle where he would’ve gotten himself and a lot of other people killed. One of the many cruel things about any war is it drags people’s’ real character out into the bright light of day, where they can’t hide. It showed Sobel for what he was. How many of us could stand that exposure? We all like to think that we would be Dick Winters, but most of us will never know.
I know I wouldn't be Dick Winters...but I'm pretty sure I'm not Captain Sobel, either. My grandfathers were WW2 vets, and they weren't as great as Winters or as bad as Sobel, either. I'd be happy if I could have just matched half of what they did in combat in the Pacific.
Sobel is underappreciated. They should have depicted him a little better. They painted him as a villain without getting the same mercy and understanding that others got. He was a leader-in-training. Despite his shortfalls he demanded excellence, beating discipline, fitness, and health into a unit that went on to be one of the most significant in the war. That's not nothing. Many of the members of Easy Company went on to give him credit despite not liking the guy. Removing him was a good call as he would have gotten people killed, and that's okay. We all dont need to be tactical geniuses. He was good at training and logistics, and that's where he was placed.
Leonidas, Hannibal, Alexander, Caesar, Agrippa, Atilla, Charlemagne, William the Conquerer, Saladin, Genghis Khan, George Washington, Napoleon, George S. Patton… Captain Herbert Sobel. Say his name with the respect and dignity it deserves. Along with the hallowed names of the greatest tacticians and conquerers of all eternity.
From what I've read the real Herbert Sobel was a well-intentioned man who was a good trainer. Despite not being much of an athlete he always ran Currahee with his company. The real Dick Winters stated that Sobel's tough training had a lot to do with turning Easy into what it became, and Don Malarkey later wrote that he felt Sobel's training was a big part of why he survived.
Although it is true that several Taccoa men thought highly of his training, to say that the 506th thought well of the man's character is a stretch. Many of those same men also called him "petty and vindictive"
@@CodaMission I think it's clear that he was all of those things. Petty, vindictive, and a poor tactician, but also a dedicated trainer who wanted his men to be the best. He knew that war was going to throw tougher situations at his men than he could ever cook up, so he wanted them to be as mentally tough as possible...and he wanted to catch the washouts early and get them out of his company. Also, I didn't say the entire 506th thought well of Sobel...I cited specific examples of men who had at least somewhat kind words for him.
It’s easy to miss because Sobel proved to be such an ineffective combat leader that he was a brilliant instructor. Easy company would have probably been wiped out if it wasn’t for his training. Like Col. Sink says in the show, he fielded the finest company of soldiers Sink had ever seen. He just wasn’t the right man to lead them into battle.
@@nitrowolf17 But I was wondering besides extra PT for petty reason, what did he do to train them? The land Nav part showed he lacked field skills and I was wondering how can he train his men in thinga he cant even do himself?
Andrew Phillips Same situation here! I saw this scene waiting for a joke or a laughing sound on the background! HAHAHAHA I definitely can't take him seriously anymore...
***** It has nothing to do with denying the reality of the series and doesn't show lack of knowledge of WW2. If someone has watched Friends enough Schwimmer's character Ross has a very whiny and melodramatic personality. Associating an actor with his most popular role is a pretty common thing. So, he just doesn't strike people as an authority figure. Doesn't make someone an idiot.
Andrew Phillips I've watched Friends many times myself and I could actually get into David's role as Captain Sobel. I was able to separate him from Ross, and he actually made me dislike him. From what I hear he really got into character for the role too. Fair play to him.
Since Full Metal Jacket, all of these types of movies always have to have the drill instructor shits on new recruits scene. This was the first I’ve seen since that felt natural and original. This show is top tier.
FMJ was the 2nd to use Ermey as a DI, Boys in Company C was the first, and he seriously toned it down for the movie. Jack Webb was not a DI but was former Army and when we watched it in 1980 on ship, we saw how close it was to our own training of 77, emotion wise, but no one had made FMJ yet, that had Marine sdying from paughter in the movie theaters from nostalgia while other patrons thought we were sick, then 20 minutes into it, people turned their heads to ask if this was really like it, "YEP, IT SURE WAS! THEY FINALLY DID IT RIGHT!"
We must always remember, Capt Sobel sadistic training regiment prepared these warriors to expect the worst in war and adapt and adjust in order to survive. Everyone may hate him, but in the end, you gotta admit, he saved alot of lives and made heroes out of his company, thru his commando-like training. He could be a little bit kinder here and there which might go a long long way with his men.
Read this from the book version ⬇️ "As training continued throughout 1942, Sobel never tired of pushing the men to the brink of exhaustion, running them over the obstacle course and taking them on nine-mile runs with full packs, rifles and machine guns. Sobel’s favorite exercise was the Friday-night thirty-five-mile nonstop hike with full gear. He would order canteens to be filled with water at the start of the hike, and expected them to still be full when they got back. Harsh punishment awaited any man who sneaked a sip. “We were miserable, exhausted, and thought that if we did not get a drink of water we were certain to collapse,” Pvt. Burton “Pat” Christenson recalled. At the end of a march Sobel would check each man’s canteen to see that it was still full. Winters grew disgusted with Sobel’s increasingly harsh treatment of the men. Walking the ranks during inspection, Sobel would bark out, “dirty stacking swivel,” “dirty gun sight” or “dirty ears,” and dock the men leave time. Sometimes the punishments were just, sometimes they were not and other times they were sheer fantasy. It didn’t matter to Sobel, but it did to Winters, who was often ordered to come up with a list of infractions, real or imagined.Sobel’s habit of canceling leaves as punishment was not a hardship for the socially reserved Winters. While many of the men crossed the street to the Wagon Wheel or walked a short distance down the highway to the Hi-Dee-Ho to tip a few beers, Winters was just as happy remaining on the base.When he did go into Toccoa, it was often to attend church, where he was usually invited for dinner at the Sunday School superintendent’s home. Winters did take a short leave to meet his mother who, in what Winters felt was probably the biggest single adventure of her life, came to visit her son at camp.
This was the first clip I ever saw of "Band Of Brothers" and it won me over instantly. This is without a doubt the best war production, I have ever seen.
@@Killabear-en2xq He's right in a sense, but it is interesting how education regarding the use of commas differs. I learned that commas were meant to be used to separate clauses, but many Americans learn that commas are meant to be used to indicate pauses or gaps in sentences. The former is more 'grammatically correct', but the latter is more accurate to how people speak in real life. Always interesting to see these things.
I always thought David was just some corny bad actor. After I watched his performance in band of brothers I completely changed my mind about that. He was absolutely phenomenal in that show, great actor!!
Couldn't agree less with those who cannot split Ross from Sobel. Besides, as becomes clear when we know the character better, a big part of his cruelty comes from his intimate insecurities, which is quite Rossish. Personally, I have met some CO / trainers of this kind, tough, unable to empathise (thinking that their duty) and way more "smart" than their men's cunning for cheating, and the way this one is built up is impeccable. I enjoyed every scene DS appeared within.
guys come on, we all love him as Ross, but let's try to see and appreciate him for being somebody else, it's not that great being constantly complemented on one thing when you've done hundreds of others...
I once met a guy who had it worse: he looked exactly like David Schwimmer. I was in a packed elevator and this guy walks in, everyone looks at him and straight away he says "I know, I look like David Schwimmer", as if this happens to him 5 times a day, he looked so tired of it, and he even sounded like Schwimmer/Ross when he said it. Schwimmer may be typecast as a Ross type, but this poor schmo was typecast as Schwimmer for life!
Reminds me of the Corporal Himmelstoss character from All Quiet on the Western Front. No one likes him, no one would follow him, a bad soldier who can't cope with actual combat and one who gives out vindictive, arbitrary punishment. But Paul (the narrator) acknowledges that his treatment did make them more survivable in combat. Distrusting, coarse, no longer innocent and instilling a reliance on comradeship with their fellow soldiers. Then he compares himself to young recruits later in the war who didn't have time to be as thoroughly beaten into shape before being sent to the front and sees them as afraid and much less likely to intuit how to survive artillery or machine guns.
When I see him, I think of him in this role more than I do "Friends". Maybe because I spent 22 years in the Army and experienced Ahole commanders and 1SGs just like this. I remember a new 1SG yelling at the company about a dead fish in the parking lot... but that's another story...
I hated when we got a new 1SG. They always loved to flex the first week. Never could get the barracks clean enough to pass his level of inspection. Every time.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography It was the new 1SGs 1st formation/day running the company, so we formed up in the parking lot in front of the hanger we worked at and he began ranting about how the company in his estimation, was low standard. He was going to fix it. He then asked who had seen the fish laying in the parking lot? (me: What?) He ranted about if we upheld ourselves to real military standards then someone would have picked up the fish from the parking lot and thrown it away. After formation I walked over to look at this fish. It was half a fish that was flattened and had been there for at least a week. I was months from retirement at that point. Guy was a piece of work...
I never watched Friends - so I never knew him as Ross only Sobel. It speaks of an actor make me hate a guy in less than 3 minutes. It took Joffrey an entire season, this guy took minutes. But I do not demean the real life Sobel. He knew training, he knew how to break men. He knew to make soldiers. He only lacked leadership - all he had to do was ask Winters for guidance on that - however if the lower ranks saw that - it would make him look weak, even if Winters told nobody, cause the seed of incompetence was planted. I like to think the high brass knew of Sobel’s issues and the slight mutiny not only proved them right but showed the men were not stupid. Whoever in the high brass argued to spare them possibly knew these men would be in good hands - no matter the officer who was assigned. They just knew Sobel would probably meet an “accidental” case of misfire from behind - Normandy would all but ensure that.
I love the way he stalks up & down the line, eyes scanning for the next victim, & you can see each of the servicemembers trying not to catch his eye. A Masterful performance
"Corporal Toye. There will be no leaning in my company. Are those dusty Jump Wings? How do you expect to slay the Huns with dust on your jump wings?" I thought that was a hilarious impression.
If a character is totally obnoxious and unlikeable, the actor is doing an excellent job. I forgot very quickly that I was watching Ross when I saw this movie.
I respect Herbert Sobel, despite his real life shortcomings as the guy who made Easy Company the hardest company in the 101st, but I strongly agree with ya there, it's like Ross turning into Monica!
Only those who have been on morning inspection know how distressing it is to be at position of attention waiting the officer. I'm currently a reserve officer but one year ago I was an officer-candidate in training. Until today I remember during the morning inspection, lieutenent came up to me and looked at face. I was in position of attention hoping not to be revoked. Then he asked me the following question: Have you shaved your beard yet? I only said: yes, sir. But he kept looking into my eyes and asked me: are you sure? I said again: yes, sir. And then he asked me the same question again and I started stuttering. After that he yelled at me saying, you pig! You didn't even shave properly. In addition to being revoked, he made me do over 100 push-ups. Lol, so that's it. Greetings from Brazil. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Sobel didn't get a funeral. The man who united an entire company against him to give them something to fight against. Breaks my heart. We all dislike Sobel in BOB, but there's no doubt in my mind (or probably most minds), that this man trained one of the best companies specifically because of that fact. Spawned some of the best officers and NCOs. When you watch this and you seethe at this man, know that he got some of the best results from his men. Even driving most of his noncoms to face the fence. I don't know if it was ever really on the table, but they didn't know that. Sobel is a hero. For his feats on the field, but especially for what he did off the field. Hell of a guy. RIP Herb.
His style of training was indeed one of the key factors that made Easy Company as effective as they were. But his court martialing of Winters is what made people lose all respect for him. It was wrong, and had nothing to do with making Easy Company stronger. It removed the idea that he was merely being a hard ass for the sake of results.
@@briang.7206 - perhaps part of your motivation to work hard for people you liked and respected was contrast with those you didn't. Unintentional good cop bad cop.
@@briang.7206 - that is often the case, is more pleasant and more sustainable. My point is that douchebags have their place. Little brings more unity than common suffering of injustice. Should not be everywhere but has its place.
I think he did a fantastic job with Sobel. It must be awesome to be Ross on Friends, until you realize that you are always going to be Ross on Friends. They gave him a chance and he nailed it.
Regardless of what one may think of Herbert Sobel, he probably was an outstanding trainer and should rightfully get credit for instilling discipline in these men. When Winters eventually took over he had a great unit to work with. Schwimmer is also a great/versatile actor. He can take on serious roles and comedic roles.
god its the little details, leipgot could have just ran off to change like every other soldier, but no he goes to collect his knife. the best series ever made..
Actually this level of discipline is an effective training tool. It will build a strong team if properly applied. It is also necessary to reward success by the team.
1. Rusty blade doesn't cut as fast 2. Forcing to have all weapons in best condition despite reasoning is part of military discipline 3. Captain is just being a hard ass
This is actually how it is in the Army. I hated hearing open ranks march during formation. It usually doesnt end well at least in my last unit. When you here that its like now what did we do this time or if during inspectation you hope everyone is good to go or no pass
maybe they trew his sandwich away
My first thought :)
@LEMON MILK 😂😂
Lol
maybe he had said he was on a break.
You youu.. threeww.. my sandwich awaay.. my... sandwiich.. my.. sandwich LOL good 1
Schwimmer is actually very good at this role. I'd like to see him play more stuff like this.
People are still gonna comment Friends references though.
I want to see Schwimmer play a really bad guy, like a serial killer or something.
@@billt8504 After the acting in you ate my sandwich without laugh tracks. I believe it, he's a theater actor.
@@billt8504 ruclips.net/video/4H6Ux3l75Rc/видео.html
8 yrs later
Clearly someone stole his turkey sandwich.
lol
Someone did steal a can of peaches from the canteen tho.
Holy mother, has it already been almost ten years, feels like I have just watched it yesterday
MY SANDWICH!!!!!!!!!!!
@@freddiemercury5987 *buries fingers into own eyes* "You THREW it... AWAY?"
The Germans
Tragic man. US Military went from almost nothing to 8.5 million people. Many people simply were not competent to do the job they were assigned. That was inevitable, creating such a huge army so quickly. Sobel was one such case. He understood physical fitness, he tried to provide leader ship but he didn’t know how to do it, and he did it badly. On top of that, he was incompetent at the tactical skills of small unit leader ship, which thankfully was found out before he was sent into battle where he would’ve gotten himself and a lot of other people killed. One of the many cruel things about any war is it drags people’s’ real character out into the bright light of day, where they can’t hide. It showed Sobel for what he was. How many of us could stand that exposure? We all like to think that we would be Dick Winters, but most of us will never know.
I know I wouldn't be Dick Winters...but I'm pretty sure I'm not Captain Sobel, either. My grandfathers were WW2 vets, and they weren't as great as Winters or as bad as Sobel, either. I'd be happy if I could have just matched half of what they did in combat in the Pacific.
Sobel is underappreciated. They should have depicted him a little better. They painted him as a villain without getting the same mercy and understanding that others got. He was a leader-in-training. Despite his shortfalls he demanded excellence, beating discipline, fitness, and health into a unit that went on to be one of the most significant in the war. That's not nothing. Many of the members of Easy Company went on to give him credit despite not liking the guy. Removing him was a good call as he would have gotten people killed, and that's okay. We all dont need to be tactical geniuses. He was good at training and logistics, and that's where he was placed.
The U.S. military has a very unique ability of promoting people to higher levels of incompetence. Those that had knee pads did quite well.
Leonidas, Hannibal, Alexander, Caesar, Agrippa, Atilla, Charlemagne, William the Conquerer, Saladin, Genghis Khan, George Washington, Napoleon, George S. Patton… Captain Herbert Sobel.
Say his name with the respect and dignity it deserves. Along with the hallowed names of the greatest tacticians and conquerers of all eternity.
Ummm. If you knew anything bout militaries it should be that competent people generally have better things they want to do.
True everywhere.
This reminds me of when Ross threatens Chandler to hunt him down and kick his butt. XD
Thrillseeker8922 omg lol I remember that 😂
You won't BELIEVE what Monica's older brother just told me!
Ya
After the friends series was over, Ross joined the army and became a captain
Now i'm thinking of that
in my opinion, I think he's the best actor on friends and this proves it
“Could you BE any more correct?”
Lisa Kudrow also pretty good.
Nope
Ross must have joined the military after friends
From what I've read the real Herbert Sobel was a well-intentioned man who was a good trainer. Despite not being much of an athlete he always ran Currahee with his company. The real Dick Winters stated that Sobel's tough training had a lot to do with turning Easy into what it became, and Don Malarkey later wrote that he felt Sobel's training was a big part of why he survived.
Although it is true that several Taccoa men thought highly of his training, to say that the 506th thought well of the man's character is a stretch. Many of those same men also called him "petty and vindictive"
@@CodaMission I think it's clear that he was all of those things. Petty, vindictive, and a poor tactician, but also a dedicated trainer who wanted his men to be the best. He knew that war was going to throw tougher situations at his men than he could ever cook up, so he wanted them to be as mentally tough as possible...and he wanted to catch the washouts early and get them out of his company.
Also, I didn't say the entire 506th thought well of Sobel...I cited specific examples of men who had at least somewhat kind words for him.
It’s easy to miss because Sobel proved to be such an ineffective combat leader that he was a brilliant instructor. Easy company would have probably been wiped out if it wasn’t for his training.
Like Col. Sink says in the show, he fielded the finest company of soldiers Sink had ever seen. He just wasn’t the right man to lead them into battle.
@@ziweiyuan yes. Although he was a bad leader but he was pretty damn good trainer.
@@nitrowolf17 But I was wondering besides extra PT for petty reason, what did he do to train them? The land Nav part showed he lacked field skills and I was wondering how can he train his men in thinga he cant even do himself?
I never watched friends. So now I can appreciate David's performance in BOB
God bless, you were saved from that attrocity!
@@Traumatree ?????
@@TraumatreeBad taste, I see
@Rick-tw9ge that show is mid. He didn't miss anything
PIVOT! PIVOT! PIVOT!
Catherine Spinella haha
More like PRIVATE! PRIVATEH! PRIVAHGTT!!!
Lt Bing: "Shut up Shuut up Shuuut ughp!!!"
He thinks to himself too much
omg im dying here akjsfabhflkjdshfjkslahfa
He went Red Ross!
lmfao
Ohhhh....Red Ross!!!!!
Having watched Friends enough I just can't take David Schwimmer seriously as an authority figure.
Andrew Phillips Same situation here! I saw this scene waiting for a joke or a laughing sound on the background! HAHAHAHA I definitely can't take him seriously anymore...
MIMIMIMIMIMIMIMIMI
***** It has nothing to do with denying the reality of the series and doesn't show lack of knowledge of WW2. If someone has watched Friends enough Schwimmer's character Ross has a very whiny and melodramatic personality. Associating an actor with his most popular role is a pretty common thing. So, he just doesn't strike people as an authority figure. Doesn't make someone an idiot.
Andrew Phillips Geinus comment. He is a great actor, BTW
Andrew Phillips I've watched Friends many times myself and I could actually get into David's role as Captain Sobel. I was able to separate him from Ross, and he actually made me dislike him. From what I hear he really got into character for the role too. Fair play to him.
a MASTERFUL performance by Schwimmer. Highly underrated and such a meaningful role that set the tone of BOB. Well done, David!
WE WERE......ON A.......BREAK!!!!!!!!!
Stewart Nicol as BILLY CONNOLLY haha
Since Full Metal Jacket, all of these types of movies always have to have the drill instructor shits on new recruits scene. This was the first I’ve seen since that felt natural and original. This show is top tier.
FMJ was the 2nd to use Ermey as a DI, Boys in Company C was the first, and he seriously toned it down for the movie. Jack Webb was not a DI but was former Army and when we watched it in 1980 on ship, we saw how close it was to our own training of 77, emotion wise, but no one had made FMJ yet, that had Marine sdying from paughter in the movie theaters from nostalgia while other patrons thought we were sick, then 20 minutes into it, people turned their heads to ask if this was really like it, "YEP, IT SURE WAS! THEY FINALLY DID IT RIGHT!"
We must always remember, Capt Sobel sadistic training regiment prepared these warriors to expect the worst in war and adapt and adjust in order to survive. Everyone may hate him, but in the end, you gotta admit, he saved alot of lives and made heroes out of his company, thru his commando-like training. He could be a little bit kinder here and there which might go a long long way with his men.
Amen!
I would argue the training regime for The Devil's Brigade was far more effective, while lacking the sadistic ego apparent in Sobel
Nope
Nope, he was a useless asshole, there's plenty of those. That's why he lost easy company.
Winters would dispute this assessment. He felt that the way Sobel led the men was wrong and counterproductive.
damn... he's still ross to me...
Same lol
@@orpheustakenvanced thanks for the warning, i never realized it at first
it was like watching The Witcher and trying not to think of Superman...
Ross must’ve joined the military and made the rank up the captain after friends
I´m so glad I never watched 1 episode of Friends..
I thought David Schwimmer did a fantastic job at portrying Cpt. Sobel..
10/10
Me too
Yeah, cuz if you had, you'd only be making comments related to Friends 😂
I've Watched every episode, regardless i think he is fantastic at this role
For 11 years this comment sat undisturbed.
I like friends a lot. But he's really good in this. People are just stupid
Read this from the book version ⬇️
"As training continued throughout 1942, Sobel never tired of pushing the men to the brink of exhaustion, running them over the obstacle course and taking them on nine-mile runs with full packs, rifles and machine guns. Sobel’s favorite exercise was the Friday-night thirty-five-mile nonstop hike with full gear. He would order canteens to be filled with water at the start of the hike, and expected them to still be full when they got back. Harsh punishment awaited any man who sneaked a sip.
“We were miserable, exhausted, and thought that if we did not get a drink of water we were certain to collapse,” Pvt. Burton “Pat” Christenson recalled. At the end of a march Sobel would check each man’s canteen to see that it was still full.
Winters grew disgusted with Sobel’s increasingly harsh treatment of the men. Walking the ranks during inspection, Sobel would bark out, “dirty stacking swivel,” “dirty gun sight” or “dirty ears,” and dock the men leave time. Sometimes the punishments were just, sometimes they were not and other times they were sheer fantasy. It didn’t matter to Sobel, but it did to Winters, who was often ordered to come up with a list of infractions, real or imagined.Sobel’s habit of canceling leaves as punishment was not a hardship for the socially reserved Winters. While many of the men crossed the street to the Wagon Wheel or walked a short distance down the highway to the Hi-Dee-Ho to tip a few beers, Winters was just as happy remaining on the base.When he did go into Toccoa, it was often to attend church, where he was usually invited for dinner at the Sunday School superintendent’s home. Winters did take a short leave to meet his mother who, in what Winters felt was probably the biggest single adventure of her life, came to visit her son at camp.
Dehydration...GREAT training tactic 😒
My parents were watching this movie downstairs and I was like. IS THAT MY BOY ROSS I HEAR?!?!
Idk why people say that they can't take David seriously? Like wtf ? He's a phenomenal actor, the problem is with you...
I seriously loved him in B.O.B
Loved to HATE him you mean.
I didn’t even know who he was and thought 💭 🤔 hmmm..
This guy doesn’t fit the character. Huh ?
Then read the comments
Man, Friends really screwed him of having a role for a dramatic serious character.
I can't take David Schwimmer seriously. lol
Ik right
Same
I knowww!!!
That was the point, that's why they chose him. No one could take Captain Sobel seriously so they wanted the same effect.
@@jamesdale9253 Oooooooh okay that makes a ton of sense.
I'm hearing background laughter Everytime he talks! Wtf!
This was the first clip I ever saw of "Band Of Brothers" and it won me over instantly. This is without a doubt the best war production, I have ever seen.
There's no comma required after the word 'production'.
@@VinnyCarwash-js8op cool beans.
@@Killabear-en2xq He's right in a sense, but it is interesting how education regarding the use of commas differs. I learned that commas were meant to be used to separate clauses, but many Americans learn that commas are meant to be used to indicate pauses or gaps in sentences. The former is more 'grammatically correct', but the latter is more accurate to how people speak in real life. Always interesting to see these things.
@@illuminati955 I use them for pauses and gaps in my sentences instead of using "....." constantly. Can't deny it.
LOW VIDEO QUALITY AND HORRIBLE SOUND! PASS REVOKED!!!
Do you wanna fight Germans with this Video Quality? NOT with this! ;)
***** lol
100% ACCURATE
Anyone : Breathes
Sobel : Revoked
Jokes on you Sobel, I never put in for a pass! 😤
I always thought David was just some corny bad actor. After I watched his performance in band of brothers I completely changed my mind about that. He was absolutely phenomenal in that show, great actor!!
Considering I’ve watched the whole of Friends I think he plays the role of the villain pretty damn well!
*Antagonist.
Villain? The villain/antagonist(s) here are the germans, ohh to be specific, the nazis.
They mean he's the antagonist in Friends.
Sobel: I will not take you to war.
Winters: Correct.
I just can't watch this scene without being reminded of Ross Geller when he's angry!
Look at Ross trying to be MACHO! So cute!
Naveen B PIVOT! PIVOT!
Jonathan Cascio SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!
He was on a break
I PLAY SQUASH!
You son of a bitch, I’m in.
Couldn't agree less with those who cannot split Ross from Sobel. Besides, as becomes clear when we know the character better, a big part of his cruelty comes from his intimate insecurities, which is quite Rossish. Personally, I have met some CO / trainers of this kind, tough, unable to empathise (thinking that their duty) and way more "smart" than their men's cunning for cheating, and the way this one is built up is impeccable. I enjoyed every scene DS appeared within.
guys come on, we all love him as Ross, but let's try to see and appreciate him for being somebody else, it's not that great being constantly complemented on one thing when you've done hundreds of others...
I once met a guy who had it worse: he looked exactly like David Schwimmer. I was in a packed elevator and this guy walks in, everyone looks at him and straight away he says "I know, I look like David Schwimmer", as if this happens to him 5 times a day, he looked so tired of it, and he even sounded like Schwimmer/Ross when he said it. Schwimmer may be typecast as a Ross type, but this poor schmo was typecast as Schwimmer for life!
@@vicalieg I would love it you could get followers and roles in movies
@@freddiemercury5987 just for looking like somebody else? seems incredibly shallow to me
As someone who is from Georgia, the heat and the mountains of Toccoa are no joke.
I had forgotten all of the people that were in Easy Company from the beginning and what they started as in rank. Such an amazing series.
"malarkey's slang for bullshit, isn't it?"
lmao! one of sobel's best lines! =P
Reminds me of the Corporal Himmelstoss character from All Quiet on the Western Front. No one likes him, no one would follow him, a bad soldier who can't cope with actual combat and one who gives out vindictive, arbitrary punishment.
But Paul (the narrator) acknowledges that his treatment did make them more survivable in combat. Distrusting, coarse, no longer innocent and instilling a reliance on comradeship with their fellow soldiers. Then he compares himself to young recruits later in the war who didn't have time to be as thoroughly beaten into shape before being sent to the front and sees them as afraid and much less likely to intuit how to survive artillery or machine guns.
Look, Band Of Brothers is my all time favorite series, but having watched Friends, I cannot take this seriously.
Honestly, the Mularkey roast would have had me LOLing. I would've gotten the entire platoon in trouble.
hhhhhhhhh, I can't take David seriously
me too
Same
David Schwimmer needs to be in more military movies and series
A perfect exemplar of why your training cadre should never be your go to war operational cadre.
When I see him, I think of him in this role more than I do "Friends". Maybe because I spent 22 years in the Army and experienced Ahole commanders and 1SGs just like this. I remember a new 1SG yelling at the company about a dead fish in the parking lot... but that's another story...
I hated when we got a new 1SG. They always loved to flex the first week. Never could get the barracks clean enough to pass his level of inspection. Every time.
Please do tell the fish story.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography It was the new 1SGs 1st formation/day running the company, so we formed up in the parking lot in front of the hanger we worked at and he began ranting about how the company in his estimation, was low standard. He was going to fix it. He then asked who had seen the fish laying in the parking lot? (me: What?) He ranted about if we upheld ourselves to real military standards then someone would have picked up the fish from the parking lot and thrown it away. After formation I walked over to look at this fish. It was half a fish that was flattened and had been there for at least a week. I was months from retirement at that point. Guy was a piece of work...
We had a captain of our ship who was a real jerk. He'd walk up and take the chewing gum out of his mouth and drop it in your coffee cup.
I never watched Friends - so I never knew him as Ross only Sobel.
It speaks of an actor make me hate a guy in less than 3 minutes. It took Joffrey an entire season, this guy took minutes.
But I do not demean the real life Sobel. He knew training, he knew how to break men. He knew to make soldiers. He only lacked leadership - all he had to do was ask Winters for guidance on that - however if the lower ranks saw that - it would make him look weak, even if Winters told nobody, cause the seed of incompetence was planted.
I like to think the high brass knew of Sobel’s issues and the slight mutiny not only proved them right but showed the men were not stupid. Whoever in the high brass argued to spare them possibly knew these men would be in good hands - no matter the officer who was assigned.
They just knew Sobel would probably meet an “accidental” case of misfire from behind - Normandy would all but ensure that.
Took you a whole season to hate Joffrey?! That little weasel was despicable from the get-go.
Ross: Kinda scared myself.
Monica: At least you scared someone.
Shows the range of Mr. Schwimmer. When I first watched this, I couldn't believe that I was watching the same guy who was Ross Gellar!
Sobel was a great condition trainer but that's it.. no combat for that guy.
But he did tho
He wouldn't have had the chance anyways. The plane he would have gone on burst into flames.
“One man has shiny bayonet. Very pretty. Bayonet makes nice reflection. Couldn’t see him before… very simple now.”
Schwimmer put on a hell of a performance!
"Sir how do we move in this position? The enemy has cornered us from all sides!!!"
"PIVOT!!! "
I love the way he stalks up & down the line, eyes scanning for the next victim, & you can see each of the servicemembers trying not to catch his eye. A Masterful performance
A fine depiction of a great training officer. Sobel MADE E Company to be the fine fighting force it was.
"Corporal Toye. There will be no leaning in my company. Are those dusty Jump Wings? How do you expect to slay the Huns with dust on your jump wings?"
I thought that was a hilarious impression.
The best way to get through being under Captain Sobel's command, is to simply assume there is no such thing as a weekend pass.
Every post that knocks Sobel here is actually a high compliment for the performance of David Schwimmer.
We were on a break !!!
*break
The one where Ross training troops
LMFAO
Why do I still hear audiences laughing everytime he curses 😂
He's so damn good in this role
im dying to watch this series again. its been so so long... i was still in middle school when this first made out
If a character is totally obnoxious and unlikeable, the actor is doing an excellent job. I forgot very quickly that I was watching Ross when I saw this movie.
totally true.....Unagi with that action replay thing he would do :P
I respect Herbert Sobel, despite his real life shortcomings as the guy who made Easy Company the hardest company in the 101st, but I strongly agree with ya there, it's like Ross turning into Monica!
No matter how serious he is
A always giggle when I see David Schwimme
Schwimmer played Ross here but in different era and circumstances.
Somehow I can't hate this guy like others do. I think it is because of the actor. Seems too harmless. I think because he played in Friends.
Only those who have been on morning inspection know how distressing it is to be at position of attention waiting the officer. I'm currently a reserve officer but one year ago I was an officer-candidate in training. Until today I remember during the morning inspection, lieutenent came up to me and looked at face. I was in position of attention hoping not to be revoked. Then he asked me the following question: Have you shaved your beard yet? I only said: yes, sir. But he kept looking into my eyes and asked me: are you sure? I said again: yes, sir. And then he asked me the same question again and I started stuttering. After that he yelled at me saying, you pig! You didn't even shave properly. In addition to being revoked, he made me do over 100 push-ups. Lol, so that's it. Greetings from Brazil. 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Currahee is 9 miles east of my house. I wouldn't want to run up the mountain. Great museum in Toccoa GA.
If you've seen Friends, it's hard to watch this without laughing.
Ross: PIVOT! PIVOT! PIVOT! PIVOT! PIVOT! PIVOT!
Chandler: Shut, up! Shut up! SHUT UP!
"What is the God damn holdup Captain Sobel"
"Someone threw my sandwich away sir! My sandwich! MYYYY SANDWICCHHHHHHH!!!!"
Ross: "He screamed, he literally screamed!"
This is how Ross imagines people see him as when he turns into “Red Ross”.
Never seen friends so can totally appreciate the acting here.
This scene hits so close to home
Sobel didn't get a funeral. The man who united an entire company against him to give them something to fight against.
Breaks my heart.
We all dislike Sobel in BOB, but there's no doubt in my mind (or probably most minds), that this man trained one of the best companies specifically because of that fact. Spawned some of the best officers and NCOs.
When you watch this and you seethe at this man, know that he got some of the best results from his men. Even driving most of his noncoms to face the fence. I don't know if it was ever really on the table, but they didn't know that.
Sobel is a hero. For his feats on the field, but especially for what he did off the field.
Hell of a guy. RIP Herb.
His style of training was indeed one of the key factors that made Easy Company as effective as they were. But his court martialing of Winters is what made people lose all respect for him. It was wrong, and had nothing to do with making Easy Company stronger. It removed the idea that he was merely being a hard ass for the sake of results.
So glad I was able to watch Band of Brothers before FRIENDS😆 When I rewath this, all I can see is Ross trying to be tough🤣🤣
Sobel types are a good element to have in the military. The b.s. they put on folks builds resilience.
As a vet I found myself wanting to work hard and do my best for people I liked and respected.
@@briang.7206 - perhaps part of your motivation to work hard for people you liked and respected was contrast with those you didn't. Unintentional good cop bad cop.
@@granthornin3836 ok the training has to be hard but had he shown his men some respect they would have performed better.
@@briang.7206 - that is often the case, is more pleasant and more sustainable. My point is that douchebags have their place. Little brings more unity than common suffering of injustice. Should not be everywhere but has its place.
Imagine Cpt Sobel met had authority over Rachel's dad if he was a private in this movie lol
It's not a movie, it's a mini-series
Episode 9 will make you cry😖😢
I think he did a fantastic job with Sobel. It must be awesome to be Ross on Friends, until you realize that you are always going to be Ross on Friends. They gave him a chance and he nailed it.
COMPANY: The Divorce Force
Commanded by: The Rossatron
Regardless of what one may think of Herbert Sobel, he probably was an outstanding trainer and should rightfully get credit for instilling discipline in these men.
When Winters eventually took over he had a great unit to work with.
Schwimmer is also a great/versatile actor. He can take on serious roles and comedic roles.
god its the little details, leipgot could have just ran off to change like every other soldier, but no he goes to collect his knife. the best series ever made..
Imagine if Chandler was in his command...
"Could this bayonet BE any rustier?!"
@@jeronimo486 Nixon has some Chandler qualities.
For some reason, I remember Sobel getting very angry about a Sandwhich..
"my sandwhich... MMYYYY SANNDWHICHH??!??"
He made that unit, and they give him his dues in this show.
Actually this level of discipline is an effective training tool. It will build a strong team if properly applied.
It is also necessary to reward success by the team.
Loved this series.
1. Rusty blade doesn't cut as fast
2. Forcing to have all weapons in best condition despite reasoning is part of military discipline
3. Captain is just being a hard ass
RUclips algo, what have you done. Now I have to watch the whole thing again...
Ross was phenomenal in this lol
I laughed on his threat and serious speech like Chandler did when Ross threatened him hahahaha
Don't watch friends so I have the pleasure of taking him seriously in this.
MY SANDWICH
At this point, Sobel is stressing the points of discipline and paying attention to detail. This is no different than Buds and Q-Course training.
Hey….
Don’t forget about us and cole range :(
Its like that all across the military.
This is actually how it is in the Army. I hated hearing open ranks march during formation. It usually doesnt end well at least in my last unit. When you here that its like now what did we do this time or if during inspectation you hope everyone is good to go or no pass
Glad that I watched band of brothers before FRIENDS!
He's just mad because somebody ate his sandwich. It had a moist maker.
I was not happy when I saw Schwimmer at first....but he was really good in this..