Amusing coincidence: just after you read the part about the OP's department no longer being under that misandrist boss, a commercial came on that uses "So Happy Together" by the Turtles.
When you have a troublesome boss get everything in writing or a recording. You KNOW she's going to lie. And who are the higher ups going to believe? The 6 month intern or the 10 year veteran manager?
Story 1, OP not immediately asking for her stupid instructions in writing was a big no no. Also they explained the issue to the VPs like an idiot. The correct answer wasn't "It's not my place to message VPs", and make them drag the truth out of you you doofus.
The first one, I’d have looked right at her and said “I’m not gonna play your little power trip game. This isn’t kindergarten, this is the real world. And you can get over yourself and your prejudices against men because this won’t end well for you.”
@ I’ve been fired for less. I just look at them and reply “well I was lookin for a job when I found this one I don’t have a problem lookin for a better job than this. I might not make what I did here but I’ll sure as hell be treated better.”
@ there has to be a line drawn in employee treatment. I have no problem makin that line very clear that I will not be treated like that by anyone. I also tell those kind of people “if I never let my parents speak to me like that, what makes you think imma let you? I’m a human just like you and deserve at least a little bit of respect just like everyone else so conduct yourself properly.” Too many managers have gotten way too comfortable treating employees like crap.
@@Juggzy I’m glad you’re in a position where you can do that, then! Because I’m all for it ^^ sadly usually they just go through the next few people until they find someone who does “play ball”… :/
The woman didn't want him talking to vps because she was given credit when a man turned her department around. She didn't want him to get any recognition or "take her job because he's a man"
Yeah, if being told that *nothing* you can do, can get you promoted... why bother trying? Likewise, on the other story: I would simply have handed over the write up in the meeting. Along with either hang up or say nothing at the call. Really hammer it home.
I would ask for that in writting via email. In story 1. Then march myself with my copy if that to HR. And Tell HR everything wrong woth the statments contained within. And i would record the conversations.oh me being getting yelled at.
First story: Female manager was feeling threatened by OP doing a good job. Second story: Rob makes a great point at the end about being expected to do more than your fair share. This is exactly where I find myself job after job after job. I do like to help out others where I can but sometimes senior colleagues do take the p.
@katherinekurzius290 Good morning Katherine! It's raining here. There's always time to be nice and maybe make someone's day a little bit better. Enjoy the sunshine and a happy fun week ahead 👋🤗
The last one, I went thru a similar situation at one of my previous jobs. I busted my butt all over the store, trained the manager and assistant manager (I was 2 weeks newer than them), had to fight to get supervisor of my dept, ran the store since the “managers” couldn’t be bothered and kept gettin turned down for all promotions to management. I finally had enough after 3 years and walked out. They lost a TON of business from my dept which made most of the store’s money. The assistant manager was promoted to manager 2 years before this but fired not long after I left.
Story 1: The management...VPs & SVPs...figured out that Op could have sued the living shit out of the company for his boss's abuse, misandry & outright sexism committed. It sounds like boss was likely embezzling funds...as mentioned in the story about all the money issues...and she didn't want OP outing her about it to the big bosses accidentally. Story 3: It never fails. They always...ALWAYS...get the 'Oh Shit' look on their face when you tell them that they told you to "do your job" and then you do your job, and ONLY your job.
I can just see the boss in the first story when she's speaking with the VP's and SVP's (talking to the women and ignoring the men) and when they ask her why she says "Because he's a *MAN*" at that point the VP's and SVP's look at each other and say "We're putting you on administrative leave and if you didn't have 10 years you'd be getting a pink slip"
First story - "There was nothing I can do..." Yes there is. Your manager in a company that has a HR department can NOT write you up without consulting HR. Yes, HR is there to protect the company, but they are also there to protect the WORKERS. By protecting the workers they are protecting the company from any fallout a manager causes. OP in that story should have gone and spoken to HR about the controlling manager and OP should also have told that VP the whole truth and told them that their manager told them they cant email anyone but their manager. Honestly not reporting it is why a manger continues to get away with it all. Their boss was being discriminatory and created a hostile workplace. It honestly wouldnt have gone to that VP meeting if OP grew a spine before then and reported the manager to HR and that VP, easily done by using email by cc'ing, or even bcc'ing, them in asking their manager to verify their orders of not emailing those above them. If bcc'd then when the reply from the manager comes back giving the orders, simply reply back with "Understood" with HR and VP bcc'd in along with it being sent to a non-company account.
13:32 No, they're all just the same. From the beginning it was all a lie. What's My Line proves that women were working in the 1950's in just about the same capacaity.
Sexism: I work in Software (which tends to be a male dominated profession.) Whenever I see twits who think it should remain a male dominated profession, I out point out RADM Grace Hopper ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Amusing coincidence: just after you read the part about the OP's department no longer being under that misandrist boss, a commercial came on that uses "So Happy Together" by the Turtles.
That first person is an idiot. You create a paper trail of their offender's behavior. You don't let it go.
I don't get why Op didn't get that in writing from his boss. Put himself into a snare doing that.
sounds like a namby pamby, caspar milquetoast, doormat
I would have asked her to shoot me an email so I have it in writing.
When you have a troublesome boss get everything in writing or a recording. You KNOW she's going to lie. And who are the higher ups going to believe? The 6 month intern or the 10 year veteran manager?
Story 1, OP not immediately asking for her stupid instructions in writing was a big no no.
Also they explained the issue to the VPs like an idiot. The correct answer wasn't "It's not my place to message VPs", and make them drag the truth out of you you doofus.
The first one, I’d have looked right at her and said “I’m not gonna play your little power trip game. This isn’t kindergarten, this is the real world. And you can get over yourself and your prejudices against men because this won’t end well for you.”
Aaaand that’s a sure fire way to get fired. People like this are not rational
Agree, that's probably a speed run to the unemployment line. Even if you have recourse to sue after.
@ I’ve been fired for less. I just look at them and reply “well I was lookin for a job when I found this one I don’t have a problem lookin for a better job than this. I might not make what I did here but I’ll sure as hell be treated better.”
@ there has to be a line drawn in employee treatment. I have no problem makin that line very clear that I will not be treated like that by anyone. I also tell those kind of people “if I never let my parents speak to me like that, what makes you think imma let you? I’m a human just like you and deserve at least a little bit of respect just like everyone else so conduct yourself properly.” Too many managers have gotten way too comfortable treating employees like crap.
@@Juggzy I’m glad you’re in a position where you can do that, then! Because I’m all for it ^^ sadly usually they just go through the next few people until they find someone who does “play ball”… :/
I remember this old story. OP is better than me, cause i wouldve quit and left her high& dry immediately after BS like that started.
Had to dig back in the subreddit. New posts are few and far between these days! These stories are 5 and 3 years old.
@@KarmaStoriesPodcast That's fine. I was trying to remember this story for a few weeks now, so thanks.
BWF
The woman didn't want him talking to vps because she was given credit when a man turned her department around. She didn't want him to get any recognition or "take her job because he's a man"
Yeah, fake crap! Anyone who had a crap boss knows!
Malicious compliance, love it
A case of FAFO
Yeah, if being told that *nothing* you can do, can get you promoted... why bother trying?
Likewise, on the other story: I would simply have handed over the write up in the meeting. Along with either hang up or say nothing at the call. Really hammer it home.
I would ask for that in writting via email. In story 1. Then march myself with my copy if that to HR. And Tell HR everything wrong woth the statments contained within. And i would record the conversations.oh me being getting yelled at.
First story: Female manager was feeling threatened by OP doing a good job.
Second story: Rob makes a great point at the end about being expected to do more than your fair share. This is exactly where I find myself job after job after job. I do like to help out others where I can but sometimes senior colleagues do take the p.
Good afternoon Rob! Have a great Friday and a wonderful weekend with your family 👋🤗
Have a great weekend everyone 👋🤗
Ah, a brief respite from the hate - thank you! Its Tuesday and the sun 's coming up. Have a great week!
@katherinekurzius290 Good morning Katherine! It's raining here. There's always time to be nice and maybe make someone's day a little bit better. Enjoy the sunshine and a happy fun week ahead 👋🤗
Everyone in this first story is power tripping.
" can you let my supervisor no"
No
"Ok wtf?"
"Today's exceeds expectations becomes tomorrow's meets expectations." - A good friend of mine.
The last one, I went thru a similar situation at one of my previous jobs. I busted my butt all over the store, trained the manager and assistant manager (I was 2 weeks newer than them), had to fight to get supervisor of my dept, ran the store since the “managers” couldn’t be bothered and kept gettin turned down for all promotions to management. I finally had enough after 3 years and walked out. They lost a TON of business from my dept which made most of the store’s money. The assistant manager was promoted to manager 2 years before this but fired not long after I left.
Good afternoon
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Story 1: The management...VPs & SVPs...figured out that Op could have sued the living shit out of the company for his boss's abuse, misandry & outright sexism committed.
It sounds like boss was likely embezzling funds...as mentioned in the story about all the money issues...and she didn't want OP outing her about it to the big bosses accidentally.
Story 3: It never fails. They always...ALWAYS...get the 'Oh Shit' look on their face when you tell them that they told you to "do your job" and then you do your job, and ONLY your job.
When are you gonna sing Karma Chameleon?
Due to copyright issues, we sing Karmen Chameleon 🤣
Right Rob I've not even listened to any of this but I just know you will be too hard on OP 😉 😂
Have a great weekend fella!
Actually, I was quite supportive of the OPs in both stories and very critical of the bosses!
@KarmaStoriesPodcast haha I was only joking bud. Now liked and watched.
Bring back Mr Koo!
I can just see the boss in the first story when she's speaking with the VP's and SVP's (talking to the women and ignoring the men) and when they ask her why she says "Because he's a *MAN*" at that point the VP's and SVP's look at each other and say "We're putting you on administrative leave and if you didn't have 10 years you'd be getting a pink slip"
First story - "There was nothing I can do..." Yes there is. Your manager in a company that has a HR department can NOT write you up without consulting HR. Yes, HR is there to protect the company, but they are also there to protect the WORKERS. By protecting the workers they are protecting the company from any fallout a manager causes. OP in that story should have gone and spoken to HR about the controlling manager and OP should also have told that VP the whole truth and told them that their manager told them they cant email anyone but their manager.
Honestly not reporting it is why a manger continues to get away with it all. Their boss was being discriminatory and created a hostile workplace. It honestly wouldnt have gone to that VP meeting if OP grew a spine before then and reported the manager to HR and that VP, easily done by using email by cc'ing, or even bcc'ing, them in asking their manager to verify their orders of not emailing those above them. If bcc'd then when the reply from the manager comes back giving the orders, simply reply back with "Understood" with HR and VP bcc'd in along with it being sent to a non-company account.
Also HR needs to protect the company by neutralizing the possibility of a lawsuit for hostile work environment.
13:32
No, they're all just the same. From the beginning it was all a lie. What's My Line proves that women were working in the 1950's in just about the same capacaity.
s1 sounds like a sister of krazy2k in charge of luca heaven- str0ller's company
Old content?
Sexism:
I work in Software (which tends to be a male dominated profession.) Whenever I see twits who think it should remain a male dominated profession, I out point out RADM Grace Hopper ¯\_(ツ)_/¯