Me: plays falco because he looks cool and has a cool down air Keef: You're a loyal person, a great father, a great husband, and a good person to society
Kevin Nguyen When it is Pax east again? I forgot the date for it. But anyway I expect Joker to be announced at least on April 11 or April 23 at least cause there is a Persona related event during those days.
Me: Lots of things have been said about Ganondorf players. What else needs to be said? Keef: "They're intelligent and make 200 IQ plays just by touching the controller" Totally didn't expect that. Maybe a DORIYAH somewhere in there, but not that. Who are you and what have you done with Keef?
I'll be honest I'm more scared when fighting Ganondorf than having to 3 stock a wario before he gets full waft. Because against ganon he just has to hit me of stage with that down air once and I'm dead, and it doesn't need to charge.
Smash team: So, what's your plan for Ganondorf, Sakurai-san? Sakurai: He has the Triforce of power in Zelda game Smash team: Yeah. What of it? Sakurai: TRIforce of power. Smash team: Say no more : *3-hit kill for Ganondorf*
@@mrboerger1620 Does it say that in the game is it because Leaf (the girl main character of the LeafGreen and FireRed) is normally associated with a female starter?
"Charizard doesn't have rock smash anymore" My heart was actually broken when I realized this, back when I was playing smush for the first time around christmas.
Keef: Ima be as Cordial as possible when I talk about people and their mains. Me: You already know the first character is going to get called out hard *Edit* : I was so weak after the Ivy part 🤣🤣
Thank you for recognizing our infinite IQ Keef. If you ever need to understand quantum physics or the comedy of Rick and Morty, hit up a Ganon main like us.
Cool! I was kinda' hopin someone could pop in and give me what's up with the whole Many Worlds interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. Y'know, just the broad strokes. :3
@@mikejonesnoreally Ah. Well, you see, the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is just one of many interpretat-[King Crimson!]-and that's how the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics works.
Really liked the Ganon bit and was spot on. I'd like to add that we can read people like a book for 2 big reasons (At least in my case) 1. We're all about the mental game. We want to be prove at the start that we know what you'll do, and the best way to do that is to get a tech chase, any combo off, a hard read, or a shield break. If we do that and can prove it, we can shake your gameplan up and mess with your own skill. And that's gonna make you easier to read, as you're now more likely to make mistakes. Nothing says dominating as a ganon like getting a hard read forward smash, a shield break wizard's foot, or a satisfying warlock punch. And nothing is more demoralizing in my opinion than watching them start it a second or 2 earlier, and still getting hit by it. 2. Fear. Ganon, more than any other version of Smash, strikes true fear into people. And I don't just mean that as a joke. This guy ENDS careers and entire games for the slightest misstep, and every time he gets a hit off it outright looks painful. To make this point clear: Every move he has can kill you. I wish that were an exaggeration but he has 14 kill moves, and a 15th move that leads to a kill confirm for teching wrong. That's everything but his jab, and his grabs. Those probably could kill but you don't live long enough normally. Most of these don't need you above 100% either. A lot of ganon's kill moves can kill you at 60%, and he can even kill you at 0% with warlock punch. He lives to insane percents like 180-200 on most stages, and that just makes him even scarier because now he has rage. And because he can live at those percents, he's not gonna back off even if you can kill him. It doesn't matter he's at kill percent and you're at 20%. He gets 1 smash off and you're done. His tech chase is actually really scary with flame choke, regardless of if it's grounded or not. If you tech behind and he reads it, you get grabbed again or forward smashed. If you tech away, you get warlock kicked or grabbed again. If you tech in place, he grabs you again, uses downsmash or stomps you. He has a move for every option. His aerial flame choke is worse because it is untechable, meaning you are either going to use a get up attack or roll away from him. And ganon can stomp you out of all options you pick. This in turn adds a lot of fear and stress to our opponents, and we abuse that to great effect. If you let fear drive you in a game against Ganon, you effectively stopped playing. Your character doesn't matter. You don't matter at that point. The moment fear and stress take over your gaming and we notice, you are about as easy to read as a CPU.
ROB: Just annoying. Spin to win all day why don't you. Fox: A good fox is pretty cool. Falco: All bark and no bite. So cocky and all they have is fair. Ptrainer: The only bad ones are the ones that just use a single Pokémon. Pac-Man: They're either terrible or terrifying. Ridley: Side B under stage is neat, but no amount of determination can stop them from being hit by everything. Ganondorf: Either a total casual or a literal human megamind with all their reads. Cloud: Usually bad players. Sakurai released some stats and he's the most picked character and I think loses most matches. Wario: They're just trolls. Probably have problems at home. Incineroar: In it for the style points. Like Falcons that aren't total tryhards.
I was already subbed, but after you said the things you said about my mains back to back (Dadandorf, and Ridley) I wanted to make another profile to sub twice. I remained loyal to the Dorf for years and I’ve finally been “blessed”.
To say that you respect Ridley mains like me, it hit me right in the feels man😥 Patched up what was left of when you talked about my other main, Pichu. I am just here to have fun. Thank you mate👍
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7:44 Thank you for actually understanding. Cloud was my most wanted character I wanted in Smash cause my favorite game series is Final Fantasy and seeing as Cloud is Mr. Final Fantasy it seemed logical and when he got revealed I actually legit cried tears of joy to see that beautiful spiky haired man walk out and say those few words "Never thought I'd see the day". I didn't care if he was gonna be low tier or high back in Smash 4 cause I GOT MY BOY. I went most of the time in 4 getting called a "Tier Whore" for playing him back in 4 but I didn't care cause I got the character i've always wanted and I couldn't be happier P.S. As someone who also plays Ganon, thank you for also undertanding that we love to read a lot
It's a strong add move I'm ok with getting lag in exchange for style points, what I'm not ok with is it's pretty much only viable against m2, lucario, and samus' charge shots. You get punished for using it on anything else
10:33 I'm not an Incineroar main, I play him for fun every now and then and I was the most excited about him being in the game, but I just want to say I never cancel his taunts unless absolutely necessary.
I hope you were being sarcastic about Ganon players putting in thought to their play style. U said it ur self they only have to through 3 moves and they dead.
What characters do you all want to see next?
The Keef Crew Give some love to meta knight
The Miis
Little mac
I feel so honored
Lucas
Luigi or one of the links
"Incineroar players are the type of people to say good game but don't mean it"
Get out of my head
Me, an Incineroar main: ;)
Lmao that was a good line.
Me: plays falco because he looks cool and has a cool down air
Keef: You're a loyal person, a great father, a great husband, and a good person to society
Haha I felt exactly the same
Same
I hope you didn't see that reply cuz idek what i was trying to say
Sees Ganondorf in thumbnail
*Grabs 'My Fellow Swordfighters' hat*
Hello fellow intellectual
Is this the Ganon Main meetup?
Seord
Yessuh
I see Ganondorf main, I respect.
I see any other character main, I disrespect.
DORIAA!
"You are a Lucifer sperm." - Keef 2019
"We get screenshots of GT Goku in FighterZ but in Smash no pictures of Joker. Why?!" - Keef 2019
Lmfaooo
Kevin Nguyen I know right, I really want to see something about Joker already.
@@Wallie33. that's what I'm saying but hopefully they show him in Pax East if not then rip
Kevin Nguyen When it is Pax east again? I forgot the date for it. But anyway I expect Joker to be announced at least on April 11 or April 23 at least cause there is a Persona related event during those days.
@@Wallie33. I think Pax East started today lol
P5 MUSIC IN THE BACK 🔥🔥🔥
Truly a rarity among gaming youtubers
@@yaeven4943 Honestly, I have been hearing P5 music in the background of RUclips videos too much recently
Whats the song name tho
Kwame Danchie Beneath the Mask
Kwame Danchie it’s the persona 5 soundtrack
Me: Lots of things have been said about Ganondorf players. What else needs to be said?
Keef: "They're intelligent and make 200 IQ plays just by touching the controller"
Totally didn't expect that. Maybe a DORIYAH somewhere in there, but not that. Who are you and what have you done with Keef?
Considering all of your hits basically have to be a read I see it
I'll be honest I'm more scared when fighting Ganondorf than having to 3 stock a wario before he gets full waft. Because against ganon he just has to hit me of stage with that down air once and I'm dead, and it doesn't need to charge.
@@morphstarchangeling8024 Best 0 to death in smash history lol
He's slow, yes. But this ass whooping's gonna be fast.
Sometimes you feel like saitama killing at zero with warlock punch
Smash team: So, what's your plan for Ganondorf, Sakurai-san?
Sakurai: He has the Triforce of power in Zelda game
Smash team: Yeah. What of it?
Sakurai: TRIforce of power.
Smash team: Say no more : *3-hit kill for Ganondorf*
Yes (thats it)
Also make him like Captain falcon for some reason
Yeah basically dash-attack, up-air and f-smash
@@Halopen94 you forgot the dair
"...and that's Pokemon Trainer"
Sorry, I only know Ivysaur and his turtle sidekick.
Venasaur when?
Ivysaur is a girl!
@@mrboerger1620 Does it say that in the game is it because Leaf (the girl main character of the LeafGreen and FireRed) is normally associated with a female starter?
Nobody:
Ganondorf:DORIYAH!!!
doriyah 😎
OH YEAH
Sheik: 30 hits
Ganondorf: doriyah!
"Charizard doesn't have rock smash anymore"
My heart was actually broken when I realized this, back when I was playing smush for the first time around christmas.
Let's get some Fs in the chat for Rock Smash ;-(
F
1:52
So we still praying for D1 in Ultimate?
Brandon Adrien I am
Keef: Ima be as Cordial as possible when I talk about people and their mains.
Me: You already know the first character is going to get called out hard
*Edit* : I was so weak after the Ivy part 🤣🤣
"Falco players are great fathers"
This guy doesnt know enough melee memes
*that's not Falco*
@@camerontedrow4070 HAPPY FEET HAPPY FEET!!!
The meme I'm referencing here of course is black guys maining falco
*Summons CinemaSins*
Thaaaat's racist!
*ding!*
Mango is the most dangerous man ever.
A new Keef video?! Boy, that's just crazy!
"Inceneroar players are the type of players that say GG but don't really mean it...."
Im dying XD
All the Pac-Man players be like:
.
WAKA INTENSIFIES.
I’ve been waiting so long, and this is what i get
Pacman players are bots
The inner machinations of our minds are an enigma.
Makes us wait for pacman...then gives us blue ghosts...
I play Pac-Man, and have since the beginning of Smash 4.
I don't blame Keef. Even I struggle to explain this mess of a character
"He's slow, yes. But this ass whoopin' is gonna be fast" I had to pause the video to finish laughing.
Damn that "Thank you, next." to Pac-man players was cold lol
segara04 I am a PAC-main and I can confirm that it was so cold, we’re all in Antarctica right
That R.O.B intro caught me off guard! 😂 Good thing I'm a Snake main..that roast cut deep😂😂😂😂😂 *cries in corner*
I've been waiting for you to talk about Ganon mains for like 3 or 4 years. I'm so happy and proud.
Thank you for recognizing our infinite IQ Keef.
If you ever need to understand quantum physics or the comedy of Rick and Morty, hit up a Ganon main like us.
Cool! I was kinda' hopin someone could pop in and give me what's up with the whole Many Worlds interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. Y'know, just the broad strokes. :3
Wait I thought you guys just f smashed everything in existence
@@mikejonesnoreally
Ah. Well, you see, the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is just one of many interpretat-[King Crimson!]-and that's how the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics works.
@@dinotaco4651 😏 is that a muthafucking jojo reference!?!
Edna Mode
[laughs in flame choke]
When he said that fox mains stay up until 3am practicing tech... I felt that because we are tryhards lol
I ain’t never clicked on a video notification so fast in my life. RETURN OF THE ALMIGHTY ONE AT LAST!!
I’m a simple man. I see Ganondorf, I click.
Profile pic checks out. Also it's always good to meet a fellow Ganondorf main. DORIAH!!!
Conor 2401 DORIAH!!!
DORIYAH
HOOORYAAAH
My two mains
Ridley
Ganondorf
I approve this video.
OMG! Those are my 2 mains! My question for you is... papa smurf or green gooblin?
DORIYAH!!
@@squidbombproductions1106 I'm a green goblin guy myself
@@shaphier7057 YES!
Really liked the Ganon bit and was spot on. I'd like to add that we can read people like a book for 2 big reasons (At least in my case)
1. We're all about the mental game. We want to be prove at the start that we know what you'll do, and the best way to do that is to get a tech chase, any combo off, a hard read, or a shield break. If we do that and can prove it, we can shake your gameplan up and mess with your own skill. And that's gonna make you easier to read, as you're now more likely to make mistakes. Nothing says dominating as a ganon like getting a hard read forward smash, a shield break wizard's foot, or a satisfying warlock punch. And nothing is more demoralizing in my opinion than watching them start it a second or 2 earlier, and still getting hit by it.
2. Fear. Ganon, more than any other version of Smash, strikes true fear into people. And I don't just mean that as a joke. This guy ENDS careers and entire games for the slightest misstep, and every time he gets a hit off it outright looks painful.
To make this point clear:
Every move he has can kill you. I wish that were an exaggeration but he has 14 kill moves, and a 15th move that leads to a kill confirm for teching wrong. That's everything but his jab, and his grabs. Those probably could kill but you don't live long enough normally. Most of these don't need you above 100% either. A lot of ganon's kill moves can kill you at 60%, and he can even kill you at 0% with warlock punch.
He lives to insane percents like 180-200 on most stages, and that just makes him even scarier because now he has rage. And because he can live at those percents, he's not gonna back off even if you can kill him. It doesn't matter he's at kill percent and you're at 20%. He gets 1 smash off and you're done.
His tech chase is actually really scary with flame choke, regardless of if it's grounded or not. If you tech behind and he reads it, you get grabbed again or forward smashed. If you tech away, you get warlock kicked or grabbed again. If you tech in place, he grabs you again, uses downsmash or stomps you. He has a move for every option. His aerial flame choke is worse because it is untechable, meaning you are either going to use a get up attack or roll away from him. And ganon can stomp you out of all options you pick.
This in turn adds a lot of fear and stress to our opponents, and we abuse that to great effect. If you let fear drive you in a game against Ganon, you effectively stopped playing. Your character doesn't matter. You don't matter at that point. The moment fear and stress take over your gaming and we notice, you are about as easy to read as a CPU.
I love your vids keef, ur smash 4 has really inspired me
As an Incineroar main I can say that was absolutely 100% true.
HE DIDNT SAY IT SO I GOT YOU GUYS ONCE AGAIN !!! ITS TIME BOYS
I played Ganondorf against my friend’s Link. I landed 3 up tilts in a row and he didn’t die.
So I read him again and hit another one.
What if you wanted to go to heaven but God said...
Ivy...SAUR!!!
PikaPower Not gonna lie ivysaur is a nightmare to fight against in this game. I hate his side B into side air attack combo.
Angelo Diaz as a Pokémon trainer main, I am happy to hear 😈
Warms my heart to hear such kind things about me as a Ridley Main.
That Ridley bit just had me feelin' like "
I swear, people who main Ganon also main Ridley and vice versa. I too, am guilty of this dual mainery
"He's slow yes....BUT this ASS whoopings gon be fast" lmao!
I play rob. I like spinning
Its true
Love the video man! Keep up the good work! Had a great laugh and I loved the R.O.B. part, as a R.O.B. main I approve of this
Damn, I'm a Pac-Man main and I've been waiting for this moment... XD
Bro this series is scrumptious and these analogies simply delicious lmao 😂👌
3:45 - “Once Ivysaur is on the screen...”
Thank you for all of the nice things you had to say about Ridley mains. I'm a Ridley main myself
Incineroar < ... Saying good games is just a reflex for me now , don't make fun of my condition... GG.
Petition to get another episode of this.
"Once Ivysaur is on the screen, you are a detriment to the human species,"
Bruh, I'm so done, this is easily the best Smash roast line of 2019.
I like how you have beneath the mask as the music in the background yet no joker lol
ROB: Just annoying. Spin to win all day why don't you.
Fox: A good fox is pretty cool.
Falco: All bark and no bite. So cocky and all they have is fair.
Ptrainer: The only bad ones are the ones that just use a single Pokémon.
Pac-Man: They're either terrible or terrifying.
Ridley: Side B under stage is neat, but no amount of determination can stop them from being hit by everything.
Ganondorf: Either a total casual or a literal human megamind with all their reads.
Cloud: Usually bad players. Sakurai released some stats and he's the most picked character and I think loses most matches.
Wario: They're just trolls. Probably have problems at home.
Incineroar: In it for the style points. Like Falcons that aren't total tryhards.
I was already subbed, but after you said the things you said about my mains back to back (Dadandorf, and Ridley) I wanted to make another profile to sub twice. I remained loyal to the Dorf for years and I’ve finally been “blessed”.
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand us Ganondorf mains
You arent wrong *tips feDORIYAH*
Glad R.O.B. made it on here. Loved him in Smash 4 and love him even more in Ultimate
Cloud was in Ehrgeiz, Keef. Yup I mained Cloud there too. :3
That game brings back memories. I liked playing with Zack
3:46 That took a really dark turn very quickly
Incineroar main here and I just wanna say....
Good game
matthew carlson I hate incineroar mains because they always spam revenge if you don’t do that shit I respect you
@@nickybear6461 Just grab lol
@@nickybear6461 but side b spam is okay?! Nope. Just nope.
The section about Ridley, especially the last line, really resonated with me
As a Ganon main I am was hoping to be roasted real bad in the video but to my surprise you only had good things to say. Idk how to feel lmao
Same I never see this coming It's strange I don't like it
To say that you respect Ridley mains like me, it hit me right in the feels man😥
Patched up what was left of when you talked about my other main, Pichu. I am just here to have fun. Thank you mate👍
Glad someone finally understands us Falco mains.
I play Ganondorf, Ridley, and Incineroar, and occasionally use Cloud and Falco. This video made my day😊
Holy shit, he had nothing to say about Pac-Man. Damn, son.
To be fair, you need to have a high IQ to fully grasp what playing as Pac-Man is like and what goes through our heads.
lol I think the joke was that there are no pacman players
@@Aizaia5 apparently he hasn't met me yet in smash
I can confirm the fox thing...its the only way to move to the next level of fox mastery.
"haha pacman players... lets go on to the next character"
honestly, yea
Please bring this series back
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Sonic: You're too slow
@@isgamer-8732 Canonically, only Kirby can stand a chance against Goku.
@@oldchannel2892 There's actually more characters in Smash that could stand a chance against Goku.
@@LordNightmare47 like who?
7:44 Thank you for actually understanding. Cloud was my most wanted character I wanted in Smash cause my favorite game series is Final Fantasy and seeing as Cloud is Mr. Final Fantasy it seemed logical and when he got revealed I actually legit cried tears of joy to see that beautiful spiky haired man walk out and say those few words "Never thought I'd see the day". I didn't care if he was gonna be low tier or high back in Smash 4 cause I GOT MY BOY. I went most of the time in 4 getting called a "Tier Whore" for playing him back in 4 but I didn't care cause I got the character i've always wanted and I couldn't be happier
P.S.
As someone who also plays Ganon, thank you for also undertanding that we love to read a lot
When Keef went to Ganondorf I thought I was gonna here a DORIYAAAH!!!
Yeah where is my doriyah 😇
8:45 - "People who play Wario in this game make me want to eat my own car."
How about a motorcycle instead?
We gonna get an MK11 Mains vid when the game comes out?
It's the same as MK9 so who cares.
Love that persona 5 background music! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
ROB Side B didn’t have free fall, it just had THAT MUCH LAG
It's a strong add move I'm ok with getting lag in exchange for style points, what I'm not ok with is it's pretty much only viable against m2, lucario, and samus' charge shots. You get punished for using it on anything else
10:33 I'm not an Incineroar main, I play him for fun every now and then and I was the most excited about him being in the game, but I just want to say I never cancel his taunts unless absolutely necessary.
Hey, someone talking good about Ganondorf! Eat that, Leffen.
Also Leffen when he loses as Joker: "Yeah hes only A Tier"
This is one hell of a video to come back from Wendy's with my brother to see, getting stormed with complements for my main and whatnot. Thanks, Keef!
Getting married in December. Brother-in-law to-be is subscribed.
I must now main Falco to re-earn his blessing.
Thanks, Keef... -_-
8:30 kingdom heart chain of memories
Uploaded 18 minutes ago?
Sh*t I'm late!
I have no idea about gaming but here I am at part 4 enjoying the steryotypes (how he gets to give behaviours to different players)!!
0:17 doesn’t that belong in the things smash players don’t say video
Thanks man for coming through after I finished the rest of my stocked up videos
We be heading towards that golden play button.
That's the nicest thing I've ever heard anyone say about me using Ivysaur.
As a Ganondorf Main I enjoyed this video very much. Ganondorf always commands Respect... or is it fear? well either way.
6:27 - 7:29 now this Keef, puts a smile on my face.
I feel honored to be respected as a ganondorf main, plus bowser and mewtwo are cool
Man I swear Im loving these videos, I'm always waiting for the next one impatiently lol
I Primary main Greninja and secondary main Ridley and Incineroar. This video was hilarious XD
Cloud was also in FF Tactics (amazing) and Ehrgeiz (god help us all).
The ganondorf analysis is just too spot on. Every percent is kill percent
I main R.o.B. Once he said We eat ass, I busted out laughing. Fr that shit had me dying!
When I heard him say when a Ganon player picks up the controller you have 200 IQ made my heart fill up with pride. XD 🙏❤
I’ve been waiting for this video for a whole minute Keef!
FOX MCCLOUD. MANGO NATION.
Lmao I was waiting for the Inceneroar one ever since you started this series. You hit the nail right on the head bruhbruh! xD
I hope you were being sarcastic about Ganon players putting in thought to their play style. U said it ur self they only have to through 3 moves and they dead.
Well you got Ganondorf right on the money. Got my on point with that one.
"Cloud is a fair character", meanwhile, a certain woman got nerfed hard as hell.
2:28 So Piccolo. Minus trying to kill Goku at the end of Dragon Ball.
Keef, as a Ganondorf main, you have truly made my day. Thank you! hopefully I'll get a Switch soon to show off my 200 IQ.
"Good Game" but we don't really mean it. LOL. Holy shit. Spot on.