Can This FDA-Approved Device ACTUALLY Stop Tinnitus? Lenire Review
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Dr. Ben Thompson reviews Lenire, an FDA approved device to treat tinnitus.
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$4000 - $5000 to buy it with no guarantee and zero return - pass!
This is the same principal the Neosensory device uses except theirs uses a wrist band device that vibrates to the tones the app plays, I bought one last year (payments of $250.00).
Unfortunately the Neosensory does little to nothing for me. What most of us need is the hearing restoration drugs that are under development. I'm assuming this device won't do a thing for me as proved with the Neosensory device, so I can think of a whole I'd rather spend $5,000.00. I'm passing on this too.
Exactly! Especially if it could make your tinnitus worse, which it can for some. NO WAY!
@@mikescalise8380Can we really expect for hearing restoration, will also cure tinnitus, if we know that people also get tinnitus, without hearing loss!? It would be great to be able to cure hearing loss nonetheless.
I bought a Lenire in the UK and it cost about £3000. It did not reduce my tinnitus at all. I felt that i had been scammed
Thanks for the info.
Tony, I'm so sorry to hear that. As doctors, we at Treble Health never want a patient to feel like they're stuck with a treatment that didn't work. Hopefully you've found some tools on our channel that have helped you better manage and reduce your tinnitus.
@@treblehealth You talk out of your posterior you'll push anything if someone gives you a pen.
Thank you for letting us know thank you very much. I wish that it had. Tinnitus isn't fun to live with
@@Aitch-102 you clearly didnt watch the video
With no guarantee or return options (and at that extraordinary price), the Lenire device seems like the perfect product to be rented or leased.
Dr. Ben, thank-you for doing the research on Lenire. Thank-you for all you do.
Thank you for your kind words! We appreciate your support!
There is NO WAY I would ever try something like this -- especially if it could possibly make your tinnitus worse. I'll stick with the great Dr. Suzanne May of Treble Health who has helped me greatly in just 5-6 months. Also, most people (including me) have horrible anxiety when they develop tinnitus, so for Lenire to leave them out is not helpful. I started trauma therapy for my horrific anxiety/PTSD, and working with Dr. May of Treble health and my EMDR trauma therapist has lowered the volume of my tinnitus greatly. It's amazing. Also, I love my ReSound Hearing Aids/Maskers. This is what has worked for me. But it took me 4 years to find out this is what I needed. The various drs. I consulted with for 4 yrs. were worthless. Told me there was nothing I could do about it and learn to live with it. But I REFUSED to stop searching. SO GLAD I found Treble Health and Dr. May.
It has been out since 2019 in Europe. Studies are fine, but what have their real world results been? Plus by default, the vast majority of tinnitus patients get better over time (habituation). So how much of the benefits would have happened regardless. Lastly a lot of what the device makers say seem to be misleading. So why would we believe anything that they would say?
Not everyone reaches habituation, and it's true that individual experiences with tinnitus can vary widely. While studies provide valuable insights, real-world results can sometimes differ due to various factors. It's essential to critically evaluate claims made by device makers and not believe everything at face value.
They just skimmed the surface of shores research. Without actually knowing anything about it. Or doing proper placebo controlled tests. Just to pump out a grotesquely overpriced set of useless earbuds and an electrical device. To scam the price of 10 ps5's out you for something that's absolutely useless or even detrimental.
They say this device will be less than effective if you have anxiety, and then charge you $4000+ for this hunk of plastic that shocks you. What the actual hell? The cost alone would GIVE me anxiety.
I completely understand your concerns about the cost and effectiveness of certain treatments. That's why exploring more established and effective methods like Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (TRT) or Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) may be a better approach.
This is Kabuki Theater stuff! They used to call things like this Snake Oil!
Thanks for another great video! I have tried Lenire, I felt a slight change after about 6 weeks. Not that the sound is lower, but that the brain is more easily able to leave the tinnitus in the background, and not listen to it.
Facts: many people already said after lenire didn't feel any difference or even worsed.. some reports of improve too.. how FDA allowed a device with so many bad reports? Waiting for Susan shore device and some people are manufacturing his own device with information of Susan shore device and improving..
O que exatamente faz esse dispositivo da Susan Shore???
While some people may report no improvement or even worsening of symptoms with a particular device like Lenire, others may experience positive outcomes. The FDA evaluates devices based on safety and efficacy criteria, and their approval doesn't necessarily guarantee universal success for all users. Regarding Dr. Susan Shore's device, feel free to watch my latest video about it. Here's the link: ruclips.net/video/n4Qr7rb7MSs/видео.html
Basically tinnitus is caused by neural hyperactivity of cells in the auditory brain. If properly tuned the device sends a similar sound to your ears and a certain electric sensory signal to your face.
Sounds scammy I know but it has literally been shown in brain scans of guinea pigs to tune down this hyperactivity.
Its worked in placebo controlled tests in humans. All participants reported between 60 and 75 percent reduction in a 4 week testing period.
Their reduction stuck after a 3 week break which surprised the researchers.
TMJ, neck injury. That's me!
PS: I'm just glad it's not debilitating, though the audiologist did find hearing loss. My latest attempt is 3g of GABA throughout the day, but I just started, so don't know.
Did nothing for me and I nearly died of boredom having to listen to it twice a day. Also seriously question the headset vs tongue tip timings that are apparently configurable ……… to a degree that Bluetooth likely cannot support.
I went to the VA and got nice hearing aids. They increase ambient noise and my tinnitus is hardly noticeable. But at night, when I take them out, ambient noise is trimmed back (because my hearing aids are out and in the charging pack) and the ringing intensifies. I really get used to not hearing the loud volume of ringing when the hearing aids are in. It’s really nice. But when they come out at night, the ringing is much more noticeable.
Can you not sleep with the hearing aid?
I've used it daily for about a year now and it has greatly helped me. The tinnitus is still there and just as loud, but I don't notice it like I did before. There are many patients using Lenire at the clinic I use and the people there have told me a majority of the people claim it's beneficial.
It sounds like habituation to me, which, either way, is still great!
@@Pvilchez1188 It was explained to me on day one that Lenire would not reduce the volume of tinnitus, only help my brain ignore it.
Hi,I’m around a month now but it’s getting worse not better,I got a loan to pay for it but wish I’d got really good hearing aid now,,at least ur guaranteed results but I wanted more a fix,mistake I think,going stick with it but my tinnitus is now almost unbearable,it’s so loud and never lets up,sleep which I barely did n shower r my two only pleasures in life,I never though a noise could wreck my legs fe so much,iv rheumatoid arthritis which can b pretty painful but nothing could moates to this nightmare 🙁
It's great to hear that Lenire has had a positive impact on your tinnitus experience! Many individuals report improvements in their quality of life even if the loudness of the tinnitus remains unchanged.
@@jonathangreenwood5972 Hi, don’t get too depressed/anxious about it. You’re totally fresh, one month.. First few months are the worst, then it becomes more bearable. After a year or two, it becomes a non issue.
The most important thing to understand is you have to first manage your anxiety. Anxiety is the trigger that worsens your tinnitus. There are many things you can do to calm anxiety. Tinnitus hearing aids, sound generators, baths, massages, soothing talk with a therapist, medications for reducing anxiety..etc.
Don’t waste too much time searching for the magic machine, that will instantly cure tinnitus, cause if it doesn’t help, you’ll get even more frustrated/anxious.
So try to stay positive and use the techniques that will make you feel less stressed.
i used this treatment, hoping it would have an effect on me, but it didn't. There were no improvements after three months of two 30-minute sessions daily. On some days, it made my tinnitus worse. It's been over half a year now; I still use it occasionally with minor hopes. I assume the device will stop working soon because the tongue stimulator only supports a certain number of uses (180?).
I'm sorry to hear that the treatment hasn't had the desired effect for you and that it even worsened your tinnitus on some days. Don't lose hope, and continue to explore other treatment options or strategies that may work better for you.
There is a medical facility in my country (Poland) that lends device for a month for 300 $ but it doesn't say which one, but from product description you could guess it's is Lenire.... I think it's only reasonable way to check this out.
If you have the means to afford it, trying out the device through the medical facility in Poland for a month could be a worthwhile opportunity to assess its potential benefits for you. It's always valuable to have firsthand experience before making any long-term commitments or decisions regarding treatments.
Experienced this firsthand. I was seeing an audiologist for my tinnitus and I had heard of this device. I asked about it and it turned out they were in the process of getting training to be an official Lenire provider. I had been going through some of the traditional tinnitus treatment with very limited success and even have expensive hearing aids to address some mild to moderate hearing loss thought to be the cause of my initial tinnitus. However, I was very disappointed to find out that because I'm dealing with depression/anxiety it sort of disqualified me from using the Lenire device with any hope of success. This seems like an odd caveat for a device claiming to have such success treating a condition that could obviously cause or amplify depression/anxiety. Oh well..the tinnitus torture continues.
Any info on how long before the Susan Shore device might get approved?
Hey Oz! No updates from my side right now, but make sure to watch our recent video on this subject: ruclips.net/video/LQ_UW2m8Ey0/видео.html
Just wait for Ssd bro don’t buy LENIRE
Meditation coupled with a low inflammatory diet works hust as well!
Diet like ----------? please explain.
@balramswarnkar3112 Well, a lifestyle diet that doesn't include the garbage like what I grew up on. Sugar, bread, cereal, margarine, etc. along with the stuff found in fast food restaurants. I didn't know until my teens that vegetables existed outside of a can.
So, now I make a plate of vegetables containing broccoli, cauliflower, and carrots with some walnuts and Sriracha sauce before eating a lesser amount of the aforementioned garbage. Whether it be some pasta or half of a sandwich with some soup or a single hot dog with half a baked potato rather than three of 'em, and no cake, ice cream, and/or cookies for dessert.
And only water. No soda, beer, or liquor.
I am fit and have a good diet, but still have the ringing. Sleep deprivation seems to contribute the most.
Doctor, we trust your content. Is this device useful and an effective treatment for tinnitus or not?
If you fast forward to the 9:00 minute mark you will see the doctors opinion that it doesn't really do what it claims
While the device may have some benefits, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (TRT) are generally considered the most effective methods for managing tinnitus. If you're interested in exploring these options further, I recommend booking a complimentary telehealth consultation with one of our tinnitus experts using this link: treble.health/consultation
I think it needs more testing. And for what it does, you can get that from RUclips videos focusing on tinnitus therapy specifically, or ASMR (no talking) for free. It's also overpriced and isn't guaranteed. The fact some people said their tinnitus got worse? Not worth the money.
I agree that it's important to consider more effective and proven methods like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) or Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (TRT) before investing in devices that may not have strong evidence supporting their efficacy. If you're interested in exploring these options further, you can use this link to book a complimentary telehealth consultation with one of our specialists. They can provide personalized guidance and support based on your specific needs: treble.health/consultation
This is just as effective as sound therapy
Yes neither are effective
Hi im korean guy
I just want to know your opinion about the case the guy who had tinnitus for 2 years dramatically has lost his tinnitus ..
Here is the situation
In boxing gym
He got punched on his right ear that has tinnitus.
And he passed out for 5min
Then he immediately felt that his ringing bell is stopped
after 5months later
He still cant fell any ringing..
For your imformaion
He is my korea tinnitus community friend, i talked him for month..
His right ear had tinnitus but no hearing loss.
I just want to know about your opinion. Im not joking about this case. He really cant feel any ringing still
It's worth noting that tinnitus after a traumatic brain injury (TBI), such as getting punched and passing out, can occur. To ensure everything is functioning well, it's crucial for your friend to visit a neurologist for a thorough assessment. After confirming that there are no underlying issues with the brain, your friend can explore sound therapy as a potential option for managing any remaining tinnitus symptoms.
Yo lo que no entiendo es porqué es tan caro el aparato, debería costar 500 dólares a lo mucho, pero 5 mil dólares es demasiado.
I understand your concern about the high cost of certain devices. It can indeed be frustrating when the price doesn't seem justified by the results. More effective and sustainable methods, such as Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (TRT) or Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT), might be better options to explore.
Didn't work for me
Just buy a TENS machine for £20/$30 guys! If your tinnitus is caused by trauma to the jaw, neck, spine, or shoulders, it may well help. Give it a try!
Absolutely I use linare for 5 weeks now,had get a loan to pay for it as my tinnitus is chronic,…don’t waste ur money get a tens machine n splash out £s on good headphones,I did before I had lenire and it worked just as well,perstgink it’s a total rip off n I still owe them near 3.5 grand,nightmare like,u live n learn
I’ve had tinnitus for 52 years this looks like snake oil😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
It is. Just wait for the shore device. Also "potassium channel openers" are down the line
How much for just the audio files? I can shock my tongue with a 9 volt battery instead of buying that part.
I was just thinking the same thing! 🤣
It's important to be cautious with DIY approaches, especially when it comes to medical devices or treatments. Shocking your tongue with a 9-volt battery is not a safe or effective substitute for the recommended treatment methods.
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Why the tongue? Why not the finger, or the side of the jaw? You never said. Did they ever say? If it can be the finger, to get that bimodal stimulation, can I use my portable tens unit and just listen to an identical tone RUclips video?
I stupidly got a loan for linare and will b paying 3tin month for the next year,only did it cos I’m desperate as my tinnitus is unbearable now,before I got it I used tens on my wrist n think it worked just as well,been using it a couple month now n it’s got worse if anything,wish it d got a 4 grand heating aid instead l,gutted,heads wrecked either constant noise and now I owe a fortune too,don’t believe their success stories it’s absolute garbage
While there isn't research specifically on using a finger or the side of the jaw for bimodal stimulation, the existing research focuses on using the tongue. However, if you're curious about trying alternative approaches, you can certainly experiment cautiously. Just keep in mind that there may not be scientific evidence to support their effectiveness for tinnitus management.
How much do it cost ?
Alonzo, Lenire costs $4,000 to $5,000 with no trial period or money back guarantee.
Ok if they claim to want to help tinnitus sufferers with this device.
Why charge $4000 to $5000US that's about $8000au?
You unbelievable bastards. How dare you
I don't handle sales or pricing for the product, but I understand your frustration with the high cost.
Approved by FDA, but VA will not issue this to vets with severe T. I was told it will be several years before they issue to patients. VA is satisfied issuing hearing aides.
That's a ridiculous slight to service members.
Given that other people have described being dissuaded/denied from using Lenire due to having depression or anxiety, I suspect that might be related to why it's not being recommended for servicemembers or veterans.
@@DG-ie5ip VA gave me two sets of the TRT hearing aides, so I can wear them 24/7. Fighter jets caused my T, and first noted in 1980 when I failed the annual hearing test.. As time passes, my T gets louder and louder. The VA may be dragging their feet on the Lenire due to costs. At $4K per unit, the VA isn't funded for that. One of the largest groups of VA disability is Tinnitus.
@@jdjk7 The funny thing is, loud Tinnitus causes depression and anxiety. Its possible anxiety and depression are excuses used as a means to avoid the expense. Im a member an online Tinnitus forum. Those who have the Lenire, mostly Europeans, rave over what the device has done for them. I'm beginning to believe some have ulterior motives for shooting down the Lenire, as they don't want to lose any current or future customers..... I mean patients.
Is the device designed to treat somatic tinnitus?
The device isn't specifically designed for treating somatic tinnitus, but it could potentially be used as part of a comprehensive approach for managing somatic tinnitus symptoms.
How can i talk to you one on one?
Hi Mary, you can schedule a telehealth session at your convenience via this link: treble.health/consultation
Placebo effect
Cost to try
From my experience, the cost of Lenire ranges from to $4,000 to $5,000 with no trial period or money back guarantee.
@@treblehealth Might be something to try for people with severe tinnitus provided the cost was cut at least in half. For most not worth the money.
If I am not mistaken, the Audiologists purchases the item and trained to Program and use the device. The Patient is prescribed the use and duration of the device, and the Audiologist monitors the progress?🤔
Don’t Worry I believe the cost of this will go up but if it doesn’t And IF ACTUALLY WORKS there are ALOT of People Who WOULD NEVER BE A To AFFORD THIS Period !!!!!!!! How much Research Went Into This ?
It's concerning when promising treatments are not accessible due to cost, especially if their effectiveness is not well-established. More effective and accessible methods like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) or Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (TRT) might be better options to explore. They have shown positive results for many individuals dealing with tinnitus.
Do NOT try this device! I spent $4K and 22 weeks and my tinnitus is louder than ever!
This machine will make you tinnitus worse!
Totaly agree I got a loan to get pay for it as my tinnitus is chronic,it’s definitely made it worse and iv also a 4 g debt,wish so much I’d spent it on hearing aid,I feel robbed
I'm sorry to hear about your experience with the device. It's disappointing when treatments don't deliver the expected results. It might be worth exploring more proven methods like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) or Tinnitus Retraining Therapy (TRT) for managing your tinnitus. These approaches have shown positive outcomes for many individuals dealing with tinnitus.
Bla bla bla it doesn't work bla bla bla there is no cure for this!
Hi, You’re right, currently there is no cure for tinnitus, but there are real treatments that can help people tremendously, we see it every day. It is possible to reduce tinnitus and improve quality of life, that much is true.
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All rubbish sadly you have to live with it no cure never will be just keep busy and use sounds like rain wind etc keep away from stress don’t buy crap
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TRUST SUSAN SHORE DEVICE
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@@jonathangreenwood5972 search it bro
Stop advertising this scam. Just let it die our already.