I'm a big fan of the book and I think it has never really been filmed properly. Although the 1945 movie comes very close because Dorian acts very subtle and isn't "portrayed" as evil as in the latest adaptations. I think it's important, that his evil side isn't so obvious, because the picture is containing it all. Dorian himself should be as polite and friendly as always and only the picture should show his evil side.
Fun fact: at 0:53 you can see Dorian wearing a green carnation. Carnation flowers don't grow green naturally, the are dyed green with coloring. Wilde himself used to wear green carnations on his suit, giving a visual definition to one of his core beliefs - that life imitates art.
Yes and an innocent, boyish look. I don't get why they depict him dark and mysterious. That's the point, he's not supposed to look dark and mysterious.
Andrea Elizeth Prieto Colina He looks great! I also wish for a remake with the right actors. In my mind Dorian looks like Lord Alfred Douglas (Oscar Wilde's lover and possibly inspiration for Dorian) static.tumblr.com
I'm surprised they didn't make more of Wotton's hypocrisy, as I found that a major aspect; like Dorian says, he espoused the lifestyle of the Decadent Movement- but barely did more than flirt with it for titillation, while remaining largely in his safe, secure bubble- he 'shocked', but only in a safe way (Reminds me of Tom slumming it in 'Gatsby'); he manipulated Dorian into breaking up with Sibyl while coercing him into 'the Dark Side', as it were. Dorian's answer is the encapsulation of the story; "What *are* you?!" - "I am what *you* made me!" Yes, ultimately, we all make our own choices, but Henry's initial corruption of Dorian FS&G, basically, is something he never appears to take responsibility for- he set it in motion, & yet is horrified by the outcome? Really?
I just aced a mid-term essay in which I chose to write about this book. The essay was about aestheticism, morality, the degradation of one's soul, and homosexuality (on which I have no opinion!). As soon as I heard "lifestyle choices" I just smiled to myself and said,"The comment section is going to be a fking battle field." I was not disappointed.
So they named you after a narcissistic hedonist who was consumed by his own vanity, murdered his friend, and ruined the lives of countless others? You're proud of that?
@@EMNLTOMMY no you can't, try it, just try for one moment to make something you dislike something you love, you might be able to force yourself to tolerate it, but yet you'll never truly love it, I can't force myself to enjoy women, just as you can't force yourself to enjoy pickles
@@EMNLTOMMY You would have to be sexually attracted (such as arousal) to both men and women (like bisexuals) in order to make a choice. If you don't have such attraction......then there is no choice to make.
Dude.. don’t fuckin start a goddamn SJW protest on a fucking RUclips video bro.. put your energy elsewhere... Jesus fuckin Christ.. offended by every goddamn thing.
@@sienkiewiczmonika1161 Any kind of sexual behavior (i.e. sex act) is a choice, but it isn't a lifestyle. Sexual behavior is also not the same as sexual attraction because a change in behavior won't change attraction. Sexual attractions are not lifestyle choices either. Based on the scientific literature, scientists do not view it as a choice and there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation.
The novel is so meaningful and relevant even more today, as today's modern world is also increasingly being dominated by a pleasure-seeking celebrity culture
1. She didn't say being gay was a lifestyle choice. Engaging in sex, whether gay or straight, is a lifestyle choice. I have no problem saying that my having a girlfriend is a lifestyle choice. It's part of my lifestyle. Having a sexual orientation of any kind was never illegal in England. 2. While technically Wilde was prosecuted for buggery and gross indecency, actually this came as a result of his malicious attempt to prosecute the father of his lover for alleged libel, which in fact was not libel at all. Even if gay acts had been legal (which morally they should have been), Wilde deserved imprisonment for malicious prosecution, which was and still is a crime.
Yes, it is! If you are a practising homosexual then THAT IS YOUR LIFESTYLE ... you chose it, in full knowledge. Who else are you going to blame for it if you remain unhappy and unfulfilled? YOURSELF ONLY! Quit being such a hypocrite ... or does your lifestyle include both, homosexuality as well as hypocrisy?
+Terratonic Luvd him in Penny Dreadful. I also like the actor whom played Dorian in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Ben Barnes was also very handsome in the role and Shane Briant but their acting were not as good.
even though the betrayal of gray in the ben barnes version is way off i still really enjoyed that movie the most (but ofc the book is the book and you can't beat it) thank you for coming to my tedtalk
Half of these facts are wrong. just fyi. but everyone saying 'lifestyle choice' wilde was jailed for more than just homosexuality, mostly his drinking, which is a lifestyle. to everyone saying being gay is a choice, id love a screenshot of your phd in human sexuality
agreed, I've never never met a gay person who said they 'chose' to become gay Nor have I never met a person who one day decided to become Straight. "Born That Way" is the popular term.
RinJaganshi Being gay is not a lifestyle choice, but sleeping with someone (may it been a man or a woman) is a lifestyle choice. I know Gay people who chose not to sleep with anyone, in a way, that was his lifestyle and he chose not to sleep with anyone.
Oscar Wilde was jailed for paying to have young men sleep with him. In other words, young (sometimes 14-16 year olds) prostitution. And as prostitution was still very much illegal in Victorian England since it had been made illegal back in 1824 with the Vagrancy Act. He was committing a very real crime by participating. Wilde was a fantastic writer, one of my all-time favourites. But don't fucking pretend he was this "poor repressed homosexual", he was a decadent, hedonist, little shit, who took advantage of less fortunate young men, most of which testified against him and confessed that they did not in fact *want* to sleep with him. But were given no other choice as they would have starved otherwise, many had siblings they were trying to feed. Furthermore the entire time this was going on? He was a *married* man. Yeah, he was that dirty that he married a wealthy woman, had babies with her, then cheated on her with his diehard fan Robert Ross. He then left her to travel the world, and he went to Africa and slept with many many young men there. Then he met Alfred Douglas, and they both smashed each other, and Douglas is the one who got him into the prostitution scene. Eventually Douglas's father learned of their "more than friendly" relationship, he called Wilde a "sodomite" and Wilde attempted to sue him for libel. So Douglas's father then was forced to prove that Wilde actually *was* fucking other men in the butt. Which he did. Douglas proved it, sued him for everything he had, then a new case opened after it was discovered just how deep this rabbit hole ran, and was charged with public indecency, prostitution, and "living off immoral earnings" as it was heavily suspected he earned a portion of money that Douglas made off the prostitutes being introduced to him, so essentially this man was making tax returns from clapping the cheeks of young(sometimes unwilling) men. Pretty fucked up. Once again, I'd like to reiterate... Oscar Wilde was a phenomenal writer. And The Portrait Of Dorian Gray is one of my all time favourites. But Oscar as a person? Absolute scumbag. Zero sympathy for that fuckhead.
Well, since I haven't seen the other movie versions nor read the book, I can only say I enjoy Ben's portrayal of Dorian's character, the dynamics of his emotions throughout his entire life.. From the innocence, then eagerness to be approved by Harry, then comes the cynicism and the sense of invincibility, then finally remorse when he ends up falling in love with Emily and realize that he can't drag Emily to hell with him… Although from what little that I know it's quite different from the actual story, I'd say he's done a great job in that movie~
I remember being introduced to this story through the 1940s movie when I was about 8, I've always been fascinated by it, such a unique and original way of portraying how inner and outer beauty can contrast and compliment each other, and the story's theme of redemption. The painting scared the hell out of me, especially how it was accented by it being the only thing in color while the rest of the movie was black and white, getting to see it in all its disgusting glory. LOL
"The Sins of Dorian Gray" 1982 is also notable in that DG was portrayed as a woman by actress Belinda Bauer and the setting was in modern-day USA. It is a one-of-a-kind 80s classic.
You left out a key fact about the novel: That the three main characters are different reflections of Oscar Wilde's personality. According to Wilde, Basil Hallward was how he viewed himself, Lord Henry was how he felt society viewed him, and Dorian Gray was what he wished to be.
+AllahJew Cuckbar With regard to those three main characters, I have often wondered if those three characters were also a subtle reference to the Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Seeing your user name , its obvious you are in dire need of professional help . Look at it this way, your username is terribly offensive and hurting a lot of people.Not to mention many folks are outright livid and rightly so . If aforementioned elements are taken into consideration ,fitter course of action would be to convert your username to something more suitable for your own safety's sake..These matters are no joke. On an ending note, Don't take this even handed counsel lightly,reverberations of such blasphemous behaviour are mostly not favourable.
I've seen both the 1945 version and the 2009 version. I love the 2009 version. I love Ben Barnes as Dorian Gray. The guy in the 1945 version wasn't my idea of beautiful. ha ha. I've read the novel too. Very good book!
Tanya LaRose You should have a look at the 1973 film 'The Picture of Dorian Gray'. It's brilliant! The actor is well suited to the book's character, and he acts very well. It's on RUclips.
Dope Top 10! The 45 version is awesome, it's on TCM a lot. The book is cool too, but Wilde's prose is so purple it takes some of the fright out of the story.
I liked, when I first read the story, that it does have Dorian's slow slide, but also the effect on how well-liked he is. He's admired for his money and youth, but also talked about because of it and his blackmail. Also, he blackmailed someone into deposing of Basil's body, and it's hinted he's tempted a lot of others into the decadent lifestyle. and his friend's wife in kinda fun to read.
Everyone relax. Having certain sexual desires may not be a choice but acting on them is a choice. No, I am not speaking against homosexuality. I have no personal issue with it. It's a travesty that there are times and places were folks were expected to deny themselves of the most basic human needs like sex and love or be treated horribly. BUT don't get mad at this video for using "lifestyle choices".... "lifestyle choices" is the accurate way to say it. Cause lets be real here, people don't judge us, imprison us, or persecute us for how we feel...its for what we do.
So you mean to say that only your sexlife determines your whole lifestyle? Lifestyle has nothing to do with how you live, treat your body, how you interact with other people and how you lead your life, but who you fuck does? A lifestyle is how everything in your life looks and how you lead it. Not just who you have sex with. You choose the house you live in, you choose how to treat your body, you choose how to interact with other people, but you do not choose who you are attracted to. So stfu with that bullshit.
***** You misrepresent my point that entirely. I did not say anything that could be taken to mean that our sexlife is the only defining aspect of our lifestyle. I was saying that who we actually have sex with counts as a lifestyle choice. Because it is our choice to act on our desires or to deny them. I also indicated that its terrible when people mistreat others for making those choices. Again, at no point did I say that single choice is all we are. Not even close.
It is still stupid to call only your sexual orientation a lifestyle since it's only about one aspect of a much greater thing which makes up the entirety of one's lifestyle. Does anyone ever call heterosexuality a lifestyle choice? No, because it isn't one.
***** I think its misplaced anger to take issue with watchmojo for using the phrase. It's technically accurate and I don't think there is any way for them to phrase it that wont offend somebody somewhere. In my own life I have been insulted and even physically attacked for CHOOSING to pursue a relationship with someone of another ethnicity than myself. My feelings for her weren't a choice, but spending time, having sex and building a life together was absolutely a choice. It certainly didn't happen by itself. lol. It was a series of choices I have every right to make. Just as everyone else does. That kind of choice is a part of my lifestyle. It can reasonably be classified as a lifestyle choice. A lifestyle choice that, like homosexuality, would have resulted in even more severe persecution (even lynchings) some years ago. I say we should spend our time and energy fighting the persecutors of love not pestering the publications simply for relying on an accurate (though overly technical) phrase when approaching a subject that is, unfortunately, still a mine field to speak about even in our day and age.
"Due to his sexual orientation..." There's another, more accurate, way to phrase it. I understand what you're trying to say, but that phrasing suggests that being gay IS an active choice you make and dumber people than you and I, who already seek to quabble with gays are going to use that phrase as an excuse to send their gay sons to camps where they're taught that they can be cured. Which is complete nonsense and highly damaging to their sense of self and self esteem. Gay people who come from such an upbringing are the ones who end up committing suicide. So that phrase does way more harm even though it is technically correct in the way you described it. But most people don't understand the difference between your explanation of it and simply choosing to be gay. See what I mean?
Very fair comment. To be 100% honest, these videos help foreign students all over the world learn how to speak English AND teach them literature. In some of those countries, they are indeed more sensitive to discussing subjects including but not limited to sexuality. So it's actually less about being gay and more about sexuality and teaching to children. That's the truth, whole truth... and nothing but the truth!
another great angle to this story and to the character would be that he forces his ideals of amorality and imorality towards desire onto Dorian as he seeks to corrupt the innocence projected through dorian's youth.
As of right now, I am being required to read this novel for school and I have started it, but I am sort-of having a hard time understanding it. I was hoping that this RUclips video would help me better understand the story line and it has, so I'm giving this RUclips video a thumbs up.
+Holly Elizabeth-Rose Saywell No Thank you. I already read the book and a watched a movie version on RUclips, on line for free, so I think I understand it now.
+Junkiana It was a reference to the time during Oscar Wilde's life - at least that's what I got from what they "meant". IDK.. ?
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+Junkiana yes. really. only cowards(you know sissies) try to disclaim their own choices and attendant responsibilities, by claiming others, society, genes, devil, whatever, made them do this or that action (with support of some unproven theory such as claim that homosexual acts are coded in genes) . be brave! choose what you want freely!
Lord Henry was a total asshat to Dorain and his influences made him destructible. This is why I don’t like Victorian Landlords. They are corrupt and persuasive.
Than u almost must of seen Morrison's grave also.... in back of Oscars Great artist together near each other 4 eternity ....Thry r both on my bucket list
I'm a big fan of the book and I think it has never really been filmed properly. Although the 1945 movie comes very close because Dorian acts very subtle and isn't "portrayed" as evil as in the latest adaptations. I think it's important, that his evil side isn't so obvious, because the picture is containing it all. Dorian himself should be as polite and friendly as always and only the picture should show his evil side.
Check out the Helmut Berger version.
totally agree =)
Enerki True
I prefer the Reeve Carney version personally
I think the movie didn't hold the essence of the book .. the book is beautiful in every way but the movie took off on some other track
Fun fact: at 0:53 you can see Dorian wearing a green carnation. Carnation flowers don't grow green naturally, the are dyed green with coloring. Wilde himself used to wear green carnations on his suit, giving a visual definition to one of his core beliefs - that life imitates art.
I searched on Google, it said that wearing a green carnation, on the left lapel, was code for men who were attracted to other men...
I can’t wait for the sequel “50 shades of Dorian Grey”
😭😭🤣🤣😂😂
Excuse me for pointing this out, but wasn't Dorian Gray blonde haired and blue eyed in the novel?
Omg I knew I had that image in my head for a reason.
He was indeed.
Yes and an innocent, boyish look. I don't get why they depict him dark and mysterious. That's the point, he's not supposed to look dark and mysterious.
Yes! I wish they did another version with the right look. And for me the perfect guy would be (Instagram @neelsvisser)
Andrea Elizeth Prieto Colina He looks great! I also wish for a remake with the right actors. In my mind Dorian looks like Lord Alfred Douglas (Oscar Wilde's lover and possibly inspiration for Dorian)
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AHHHHH BEN BARNES IS SO BEAUTIFUL 😪
I know right! He's so perfect
so handsome :)
Yeah, but I'd rather see him as young sirius black than dorian gray
Beautiful and perfect
Ambo Walupime 😍💗💗💗💗
I'm surprised they didn't make more of Wotton's hypocrisy, as I found that a major aspect; like Dorian says, he espoused the lifestyle of the Decadent Movement- but barely did more than flirt with it for titillation, while remaining largely in his safe, secure bubble- he 'shocked', but only in a safe way (Reminds me of Tom slumming it in 'Gatsby'); he manipulated Dorian into breaking up with Sibyl while coercing him into 'the Dark Side', as it were.
Dorian's answer is the encapsulation of the story; "What *are* you?!" - "I am what *you* made me!"
Yes, ultimately, we all make our own choices, but Henry's initial corruption of Dorian FS&G, basically, is something he never appears to take responsibility for- he set it in motion, & yet is horrified by the outcome? Really?
Lord Henry never got punished. I think the book would have been better if he got killed by someone or he lost everything.
I just aced a mid-term essay in which I chose to write about this book. The essay was about aestheticism, morality, the degradation of one's soul, and homosexuality (on which I have no opinion!). As soon as I heard "lifestyle choices" I just smiled to myself and said,"The comment section is going to be a fking battle field." I was not disappointed.
"The picture of Dorian grey" is where my parents got my name from.
So they named you after a narcissistic hedonist who was consumed by his own vanity, murdered his friend, and ruined the lives of countless others? You're proud of that?
Ryan Abram I never said I was proud of it but it is a rare name and certainly not one you hear often.
I know what you mean dude.
Dorian Roman hey a fellow dorian cool
***** Don't get angry, it's not good for you.
"After being imprisoned for his lifestyle choices..."
Really, WatchMojo? Since when is being gay a lifestyle choice?
@@EMNLTOMMY no you can't, try it, just try for one moment to make something you dislike something you love, you might be able to force yourself to tolerate it, but yet you'll never truly love it, I can't force myself to enjoy women, just as you can't force yourself to enjoy pickles
@@EMNLTOMMY can i punch u
@@EMNLTOMMY You would have to be sexually attracted (such as arousal) to both men and women (like bisexuals) in order to make a choice. If you don't have such attraction......then there is no choice to make.
That is what being gay was called back then
Dude.. don’t fuckin start a goddamn SJW protest on a fucking RUclips video bro.. put your energy elsewhere... Jesus fuckin Christ.. offended by every goddamn thing.
Watch Mojo: "Imprisoned for his lifestyle choices"
Me: Say gay watch mojo. This man was a gay icon.
I think that’s how the records of the time were phrased. WatchMojo is well aware that Oscar Wilde was gay
You can be gay/straight but you also can choose to not be sexualy active. It is livestyle choice.
@@sienkiewiczmonika1161 Any kind of sexual behavior (i.e. sex act) is a choice, but it isn't a lifestyle. Sexual behavior is also not the same as sexual attraction because a change in behavior won't change attraction. Sexual attractions are not lifestyle choices either. Based on the scientific literature, scientists do not view it as a choice and there is insufficient evidence to support the use of psychological interventions to change sexual orientation.
Found out recently that the painting from the 1945 film is housed in the Art Institute in my home city of Chicago
Really? I intend to check it out...
Ben Barnes is so beautiful!
The novel is so meaningful and relevant even more today, as today's modern world is also increasingly being dominated by a pleasure-seeking celebrity culture
I like the Penny Dreadful version it's so good
Being gay is not not part of someone's "lifestyle choices."
1. She didn't say being gay was a lifestyle choice. Engaging in sex, whether gay or straight, is a lifestyle choice. I have no problem saying that my having a girlfriend is a lifestyle choice. It's part of my lifestyle. Having a sexual orientation of any kind was never illegal in England.
2. While technically Wilde was prosecuted for buggery and gross indecency, actually this came as a result of his malicious attempt to prosecute the father of his lover for alleged libel, which in fact was not libel at all. Even if gay acts had been legal (which morally they should have been), Wilde deserved imprisonment for malicious prosecution, which was and still is a crime.
I think the way this video worded could give people an impression of such; it could have been clearer.
Yes, it is!
If you are a practising homosexual then THAT IS YOUR LIFESTYLE ... you chose it, in full knowledge.
Who else are you going to blame for it if you remain unhappy and unfulfilled? YOURSELF ONLY!
Quit being such a hypocrite ... or does your lifestyle include both, homosexuality as well as hypocrisy?
Dorian is bi
@@MadsoKuest This was about the author, love
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen had a Dorian Gray villain in it.
Raymound Gunn probably the only good version of Dorian on screen
Yes the actor in that movie League of Extraordinary G. Men was really good in that part too.
There's also a Dorian Gray in Penny Dreadful
for those who read the book and not only saw the movies - the best novel ever.
I love the use of Dorian Gray in "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen". He's just so sassy! :P
I was literally just watching that haha. Great film
@Shelby_Via_ I must certainly agree. Seeing the gathering of some of the great works of the late 19th-to-early 20th century was quite refreshing.
A right choice
Stuart Townsend plays Dorian Gray in this film
one of my favorite novels, and one which i re-read often. Great video.
I love reeve Carney's portrayal of Dorian in the Penny dreadful series, just epic..
Terratonic YES!
+Terratonic Luvd him in Penny Dreadful. I also like the actor whom played Dorian in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and Ben Barnes was also very handsome in the role and Shane Briant but their acting were not as good.
The books deserved a better movie so poor.
The 1945 film is the best version. The novel has such controversial themes which is likely why it isn’t tackled so often
I must live on a different planet I alwats knew it as the PORTRAIT of Dorian Gray;
Someone needs to film a modern adaptation of the book. It is not just a Victorian story, but a story for every generation.
watched this at 12:00 am
the portrait scared the shit out of me
The 2009 version is great. Very good watch.
Stewie [To Meg]: "Somewhere in an attic there is a portrait of you getting prettier." -- Family Guy
even though the betrayal of gray in the ben barnes version is way off i still really enjoyed that movie the most (but ofc the book is the book and you can't beat it)
thank you for coming to my tedtalk
I was fond of the newer one, the one with Ben Barnes. I couldn't get into the book much though.
Dorian Grey is a good movie.
Half of these facts are wrong. just fyi.
but everyone saying 'lifestyle choice' wilde was jailed for more than just homosexuality, mostly his drinking, which is a lifestyle.
to everyone saying being gay is a choice, id love a screenshot of your phd in human sexuality
agreed, I've never never met a gay person who said they 'chose' to become gay Nor have I never met a person who one day decided to become Straight.
"Born That Way" is the popular term.
RinJaganshi Being gay is not a lifestyle choice, but sleeping with someone (may it been a man or a woman) is a lifestyle choice.
I know Gay people who chose not to sleep with anyone, in a way, that was his lifestyle and he chose not to sleep with anyone.
Oscar Wilde was jailed for paying to have young men sleep with him. In other words, young (sometimes 14-16 year olds) prostitution. And as prostitution was still very much illegal in Victorian England since it had been made illegal back in 1824 with the Vagrancy Act. He was committing a very real crime by participating.
Wilde was a fantastic writer, one of my all-time favourites. But don't fucking pretend he was this "poor repressed homosexual", he was a decadent, hedonist, little shit, who took advantage of less fortunate young men, most of which testified against him and confessed that they did not in fact *want* to sleep with him. But were given no other choice as they would have starved otherwise, many had siblings they were trying to feed.
Furthermore the entire time this was going on? He was a *married* man.
Yeah, he was that dirty that he married a wealthy woman, had babies with her, then cheated on her with his diehard fan Robert Ross. He then left her to travel the world, and he went to Africa and slept with many many young men there. Then he met Alfred Douglas, and they both smashed each other, and Douglas is the one who got him into the prostitution scene. Eventually Douglas's father learned of their "more than friendly" relationship, he called Wilde a "sodomite" and Wilde attempted to sue him for libel. So Douglas's father then was forced to prove that Wilde actually *was* fucking other men in the butt. Which he did. Douglas proved it, sued him for everything he had, then a new case opened after it was discovered just how deep this rabbit hole ran, and was charged with public indecency, prostitution, and "living off immoral earnings" as it was heavily suspected he earned a portion of money that Douglas made off the prostitutes being introduced to him, so essentially this man was making tax returns from clapping the cheeks of young(sometimes unwilling) men. Pretty fucked up.
Once again, I'd like to reiterate... Oscar Wilde was a phenomenal writer. And The Portrait Of Dorian Gray is one of my all time favourites. But Oscar as a person? Absolute scumbag. Zero sympathy for that fuckhead.
Lol 😁
lifestyle choice.
good one
yah, real smooth watchmojo. (sarcasm)
just wanted to suggest this, my favorite book.
I like Dorian Gray because BEN BARNES😍😍😍
This is one of my favorite stories. A very effective tale when viewed though the lens of substance addiction
Well, since I haven't seen the other movie versions nor read the book, I can only say I enjoy Ben's portrayal of Dorian's character, the dynamics of his emotions throughout his entire life.. From the innocence, then eagerness to be approved by Harry, then comes the cynicism and the sense of invincibility, then finally remorse when he ends up falling in love with Emily and realize that he can't drag Emily to hell with him… Although from what little that I know it's quite different from the actual story, I'd say he's done a great job in that movie~
I remember being introduced to this story through the 1940s movie when I was about 8, I've always been fascinated by it, such a unique and original way of portraying how inner and outer beauty can contrast and compliment each other, and the story's theme of redemption. The painting scared the hell out of me, especially how it was accented by it being the only thing in color while the rest of the movie was black and white, getting to see it in all its disgusting glory. LOL
"The Sins of Dorian Gray" 1982 is also notable in that DG was portrayed as a woman by actress Belinda Bauer and the setting was in modern-day USA. It is a one-of-a-kind 80s classic.
You left out a key fact about the novel: That the three main characters are different reflections of Oscar Wilde's personality. According to Wilde, Basil Hallward was how he viewed himself, Lord Henry was how he felt society viewed him, and Dorian Gray was what he wished to be.
+AllahJew Cuckbar With regard to those three main characters, I have often wondered if those three characters were also a subtle reference to the Trinity: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Your Profile name is disgusting and shows how much of a lowlife you must be . Change your profile name if you value your life.
Your profile name shows that you are nothing more than a diseased maniac ..Hatred against a religion is not freedom of expression .
Seeing your user name , its obvious you are in dire need of professional help . Look at it this way, your username is terribly offensive and hurting a lot of people.Not to mention many folks are outright livid and rightly so . If aforementioned elements are taken into consideration ,fitter course of action would be to convert your username to something more suitable for your own safety's sake..These matters are no joke. On an ending note, Don't take this even handed counsel lightly,reverberations of such blasphemous behaviour are mostly not favourable.
Penny Dreadful made me read the book. I’m glad I did
I got there by the 2009 movie, my favourite book still.
I've seen both the 1945 version and the 2009 version. I love the 2009 version. I love Ben Barnes as Dorian Gray. The guy in the 1945 version wasn't my idea of beautiful. ha ha. I've read the novel too. Very good book!
Which version is most true to the book?
he's also in penny Dreadful
1945 was really close but i really disliked 'dorians' acting
Tanya LaRose You should have a look at the 1973 film 'The Picture of Dorian Gray'. It's brilliant! The actor is well suited to the book's character, and he acts very well. It's on RUclips.
this will always and forever be my favorite book
Dope Top 10! The 45 version is awesome, it's on TCM a lot. The book is cool too, but Wilde's prose is so purple it takes some of the fright out of the story.
I liked, when I first read the story, that it does have Dorian's slow slide, but also the effect on how well-liked he is. He's admired for his money and youth, but also talked about because of it and his blackmail. Also, he blackmailed someone into deposing of Basil's body, and it's hinted he's tempted a lot of others into the decadent lifestyle.
and his friend's wife in kinda fun to read.
Can we get 10 notes back? I loved them.
The Albright painting in the 1945 version is at the Chicago Art Institute if you live nearby. It's very intriguing to look at.
"his 'friend' dorian gray" lmao
Felt so bad for Basil. He did love Dorian but Dorian was all “bahahahaha. No.”
5:06 scared the living shit outta me 😂
'The Picture of Dorian Gray' was a good book. After watching this video, I feel like reading it again.:-)
Ben Barnes did a fantastic job on Dorian.
I'd rather they'd cast someone else.
1945 movie is my favorite. The tv movie 1975 was pretty close to the book too.
Everyone relax.
Having certain sexual desires may not be a choice but acting on them is a choice.
No, I am not speaking against homosexuality. I have no personal issue with it.
It's a travesty that there are times and places were folks were expected to deny themselves of the most basic human needs like sex and love or be treated horribly. BUT don't get mad at this video for using "lifestyle choices"....
"lifestyle choices" is the accurate way to say it.
Cause lets be real here, people don't judge us, imprison us, or persecute us for how we feel...its for what we do.
So you mean to say that only your sexlife determines your whole lifestyle? Lifestyle has nothing to do with how you live, treat your body, how you interact with other people and how you lead your life, but who you fuck does?
A lifestyle is how everything in your life looks and how you lead it. Not just who you have sex with. You choose the house you live in, you choose how to treat your body, you choose how to interact with other people, but you do not choose who you are attracted to.
So stfu with that bullshit.
***** You misrepresent my point that entirely. I did not say anything that could be taken to mean that our sexlife is the only defining aspect of our lifestyle. I was saying that who we actually have sex with counts as a lifestyle choice. Because it is our choice to act on our desires or to deny them. I also indicated that its terrible when people mistreat others for making those choices. Again, at no point did I say that single choice is all we are. Not even close.
It is still stupid to call only your sexual orientation a lifestyle since it's only about one aspect of a much greater thing which makes up the entirety of one's lifestyle. Does anyone ever call heterosexuality a lifestyle choice? No, because it isn't one.
***** I think its misplaced anger to take issue with watchmojo for using the phrase. It's technically accurate and I don't think there is any way for them to phrase it that wont offend somebody somewhere.
In my own life I have been insulted and even physically attacked for CHOOSING to pursue a relationship with someone of another ethnicity than myself. My feelings for her weren't a choice, but spending time, having sex and building a life together was absolutely a choice. It certainly didn't happen by itself. lol. It was a series of choices I have every right to make. Just as everyone else does. That kind of choice is a part of my lifestyle. It can reasonably be classified as a lifestyle choice. A lifestyle choice that, like homosexuality, would have resulted in even more severe persecution (even lynchings) some years ago.
I say we should spend our time and energy fighting the persecutors of love not pestering the publications simply for relying on an accurate (though overly technical) phrase when approaching a subject that is, unfortunately, still a mine field to speak about even in our day and age.
"Due to his sexual orientation..." There's another, more accurate, way to phrase it.
I understand what you're trying to say, but that phrasing suggests that being gay IS an active choice you make and dumber people than you and I, who already seek to quabble with gays are going to use that phrase as an excuse to send their gay sons to camps where they're taught that they can be cured. Which is complete nonsense and highly damaging to their sense of self and self esteem. Gay people who come from such an upbringing are the ones who end up committing suicide.
So that phrase does way more harm even though it is technically correct in the way you described it. But most people don't understand the difference between your explanation of it and simply choosing to be gay.
See what I mean?
I love the Ben Barnes version most XD
I loved the book and the movies! :) glad you did this one
Some people think having coloured skin is wrong. Or believing in different religions. Doesn't mean we should cater to bigotry.
omfg when he killed the painting and when he fell his face scared the shit out of me
His vanity was the death of him and immortality comes with a price
Gr8 video
Totally enjoyed the book
"life style choices"
+robynn v LOL yeah, I wonder how many straight people chose to become straight :)
He is so often illustrated by actors with brown or even black hair, whereas in the novel he is mere blond, and "looking like an angel".
The league of extraordinary gentlemen!
I liked Grey in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. I haven't seen it in years so I don't remember much but I remember I liked him in it.
Being gay is not a "lifestyle choice".
Yes it is.
+Brandon Cruise so I guess people can just choose their sexualities? No. It doesn't work like that.
carleeforever People are surrounded by their desires, in this case sexual. It's a choice to give into them.
+Carlee If you are bi-sexual.
+Noth De what?
The lady said "The PITCHER of Dorian Gray"
Very fair comment. To be 100% honest, these videos help foreign students all over the world learn how to speak English AND teach them literature. In some of those countries, they are indeed more sensitive to discussing subjects including but not limited to sexuality. So it's actually less about being gay and more about sexuality and teaching to children. That's the truth, whole truth... and nothing but the truth!
You should do notes on empire of the sun
'lifestyle choices'
another great angle to this story and to the character would be that he forces his ideals of amorality and imorality towards desire onto Dorian as he seeks to corrupt the innocence projected through dorian's youth.
We already know what's the best scene. The scene with the train of course!
My first name is Dorian!
The 1973 version scared me when I was a kid. Loved it though.
Please do more Top 10 Notes, like of "Lolita", "The Seagull", and "A Doll's House"
I just got The Picture of Dorian Gray too!
Hi WatchMojo...Could you please do top 10 on topic for most valuable or important 10 documents in the world?
Top 10 Alfred Newman compositions
Could you please do top ten notes on animal farm by George Orwell?
Top 10 Max Steiner compositions
As of right now, I am being required to read this novel for school and I have started it, but I am sort-of having a hard time understanding it. I was hoping that this RUclips video would help me better understand the story line and it has, so I'm giving this RUclips video a thumbs up.
I'm studying it for a university assignment, need a hand?
+Holly Elizabeth-Rose Saywell No Thank you. I already read the book and a watched a movie version on RUclips, on line for free, so I think I understand it now.
Lifestyle choices? Really?
+Junkiana
I came here to make exactly the same comment as you did.
This comment totally killed it for me.
+Junkiana It was a reference to the time during Oscar Wilde's life - at least that's what I got from what they "meant". IDK.. ?
+Junkiana yes. really. only cowards(you know sissies) try to disclaim their own
choices and attendant responsibilities, by claiming others, society,
genes, devil, whatever, made them do this or that action (with support
of some unproven theory such as claim that homosexual acts are coded in
genes) .
be brave! choose what you want freely!
lol
Bumburgling
What about the league of extraordinary men
This was cool Mojo!
I liked the Dan Curtis tv movie of this taped in LA.
i go for the 2009 version!!! i love ben barnes.:-)
+catherine maranan yeah.... the score is quite hauntingly beautiful.... rather than the old version of...... dad, dad....dhaaaaa....
Yes and he looked a bit like Kenue Reeves.
Because you’re basic
I'd like to see the references made... like Penny Dreadful and league of gentlemen :)
Poor Dorian! I feel sorry for him!
This was a great movie
Top ten songs associated with movies. (Stuck in the middle with you / Reservoir Dogs)
Its always been the Portrait of Dorian Gray! Your voodoo don't work on my mind lol!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks so 😅😂
the portrait of dorian grey is another book
I read the novel back in the 80s. It has always been "Picture."
Then why in Spanish the title is 'El retrato de Dorian Gray', - retrato - literally meaning - portrait - (NOT picture).
No actually, there’s “A portrait of a lady” by Henry James. A Picture of Dorian Gray is the Oscar Wilde book
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen......He was a great villain and he had an awesome heroine rival...Dracula's Bride.
I read this book and it was enjoyable.
Oscar wilde was a genius!
That's actually an AWESOME idea...
its odd they didn't even mention the character of Dorian gray appearing in the league of extraordinary gentlemen.
Lord Henry’s point of view was Awesome
Lord Henry was a total asshat to Dorain and his influences made him destructible. This is why I don’t like Victorian Landlords. They are corrupt and persuasive.
I liked the character in the League of extraordinary gentlemen. I would have liked them to flesh out that character more in that movie.
Dorian Gray the O.G. Fifty shades of Gray
What about the League of Extraordinary Gentleman?! That film was underrated!
I've always thought it was rather sad that Wilde never published anything else. The 2nd novel syndrome just like Harper Lee.
Top 10 Miklos Rozsa compositions
The best depiction of Dorian Gray was in League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
I saw the grave of Oscar Wilde in Paris!
Than u almost must of seen Morrison's grave also.... in back of Oscars Great artist together near each other 4 eternity ....Thry r both on my bucket list