Buddy Rich in Tonight Show with Johnny Carson 1979 | "Ya Gotta Try"
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- The genius Buddy Rich in Tonight Show with Johnny Carson | November 21 - 1979! | "Ya Gotta Try"
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There will never be another Buddy rich, just as there will never be another Muhammad Ali, or Mozart, or Gene Kelly or Ginger Rogers, or Elvis Presley. There are just some people that are so extraordinary and uniquely talented that they are never equaled.
I saw Buddy Rich play many times in London. I have seen him bored and not wanting to be there on stage, seen him lose his temper with someone who came in late, seen him loving every moment of what he is doing and it showed in his drum solo's of unbelievable speed and wonderment.
Used to play drums myself, and was taught by by a professional who played for a top flight English orchestra who was expensive and very good himself, but Buddy Rich stood above them all, and I have often though that those drummers who over the years had drum duels with him needed there bumps felt as they were often shown not to be that good in comparison.
I miss him very much.
Love this music....lifetime musician trombone playa......love big band/swing and latin bossa nova......I can still make my trombone sing...and it sounds just like Urbie Green.
Great short tenor sax solos by Bill Perkins and Ernie Watts too!
Thanks for remembering their names!
Thanks for sharing!
A monster, the way the man moved around that kit was nothing short of incredible. There wasn't a drum set or tempo this guy couldn't play, hands like machines
This just absolutely blows away the bands that are on the late night talk shows nowadays. They really had the entertainment factor back then. Buddy is terrific as usual but listen closely to the whole orchestra. Simply fabulous!
Totally agree -
I posted a year ago and now.... + 50 000 views!
Thanks Buddy for providing us with such historical moments like this!
11 Down?? Lol, kids.. Buddy's speed was extraordinary like Bruce Lee! Enough said. Miss the greats! Miss the great king of Monologue also! Johnny was and always will be the best Tonight Show. I have many of his DVDs.
Bruce Lee! hahaha
Its true!
Thanks for coments Louise!
Ya i saw a film on Bruce Lee where they slowed the film down and it was still difficult to see his fist during a demonstration Bruce was doing, like the one arm two finger pushups? Ya that one. Super human strength and speed that is never seen, well Buddy was the same way with sticks in his hand, just insane his technique and speed is extraordinary. I played for about 25 years and still can't comprehend how a man can be this good!
We have a modern great: Jojo Mayer. Don't let his electronica style fool you, he's been a Jazz drummer his whole life, just like Buddy. He's even more like the Bruce Lee of drumming in my mind, much more zen too.
Agreed. Today there are many many great drummers around, and many of them are super-super-technical as well, but IMHO the true modern answer to Mr Rich is Jojo Mayer.
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Enjoy listening to the band hold on for dear life. Buddy grooved the shit outta this!
I guess I should take pointers from you? LOL
+jeffhickman10 Thanks for share!
And that's when my jaw dropped on the floor!
WOWEE!!!!!!!!!!
The mark of a great player is someone who can play any rig he/her is given to play. Ed's kit is way different than Buddy's but he played it like he'd been playing it his whole life!! Buddy you were and are the best that's ever been!!
I'm not being a snob here but Ed Shaunesseys Snare is not as reactionary as Buddys is. It looked like Buddy really had to earn his rolls and paradiddles on the Ludwig kit as Buddy played Slingerland. It was rumored that Slingerland paid Buddy Rich a million dollars a year to play, display and market their drums. They were one of the first real sponors of individual musicians seeing sales in the many millions from it. One of the best ever but if I think I know Buddy Rich he'd scoff at me and say "ONE OF THE BEST? You're wrong son I am the best ever!" I agree. In his era he was....
and at 1:05 Ernie Watts playing cool licks on ten sax...wish that solo could have gone on longer!
The Master!!!!
Thank you for resoonding
HOLY COW!!!!!!!!!
AMAZING
He was the best
Simply amazing!
There a lot of very skilled drummers out there, but no one is able to come even close to Budy... And that's a FACT!
How come these recording from 1979 sound a lot better than today's digital ones?
I've come to the conclution that Analog is better than digital.
And that is with 3 or 4 mic's on the kit. Sennheiser 441 overhead, and a mic on each kick. MAYBE one on the snare. Minimal mic'ing like that gives you a much more realistic drum sound.
They use so much processing and track replacements these days that people almost don't even know what a real drum sounds like. It's kind of sad..... people are so used to digitally manipulated sounds. It isn't the digital recording that is at fault, it is the techniques used - they try to make everything sound so "perfect".
He was fast, but oh so clean. You can hear every stroke. Just amazing.
Buddy behind Ed's big kit is a rare opportunity to see him use more stuff...still not really needed for him...I think he hit the high Tom's 2 or 3 times but it was still badass!!!
Ya see Ed kiss Rich after the solo? Now that's respect!
Thanks for sharing!
watching.
+kommisar breaking his sticks.
Biting his fingernails to death
In this era when professional drummers will only play on their own kits, configured, arranged and tuned precisely to their specifications, there was Buddy, who just sit himself behind someone else's drum set, in an arrangement completely foreign to his own, and just own it. The Master.
mobrules29 hate to rain on your parade, as much as I love buddy, but many drummers these days still sit behind somebody else's kit and play it the way it is out of consideration of not altering the owner's configuration. are you implying that buddy's own personal kit was not tuned or made to any specifications? does he open up a box of drums picked out of a hat, throw it on the stage and hope for the best? this is simply a poor jab at "those dern millennials"
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Mel Abdo hate to rain on your parade, but your parade is full of shit. If that's what you call "much as I love Buddy", don't bother - perhaps you don't know a drum stick from a chopstick.
Marathonracer you must have me confused with yourself.
These Ludwigs are a completely different set up to his, so it's not easy to play.
Buddy still makes it look simple.
Simply a genius and as Gene Krupa said of Buddy, the greatest drummer, to ever draw breath ".
And that's coming from another great .
Still amazing over 34 years later. No one approaches Buddy's command over his instrument. Man, I miss him!
Thanks for sharing!
man, so weird to see buddy behind eddies kit
+cahookie901 I thought the same thing...But of course, he 'owned' it like it was his:)
all the talk show bands today are lame, wish real musicians were still around, sad sad world of digital where lame seems to be excepted by the masses.
I like the mutual respect between Buddy and Ed Shaughnessy, who was no slouch himself!
That fucking drum set is the shit
Today 09/30/16
Happy 99th Birthday, Buddy!
Holy Cow!, That makes me feel old.
I met Eddy shaughnesy, my dad had his number and i couldve called him, i didnt at the time and Edd passed away, one of my biggest regrets..
Holy Shit that was great !
Buddy had an extra gear that left everybody in the dust. 2:30.
buddy looks weird playing on a big drum set I never seen him playing a big drum set before.
MONSTER playing by the whole band. Those sax players killed it before Buddy's amazing solo. I don't play drums, but I can see Buddy was struggling with Ed's kit - not only were the cymbals too high (he kept looking up, which Buddy doesn't do usually) but you could tell he wanted different tones and sounds from the drums and all he could do was change tempo and not pitch.
But even then he KILLED IT. Buddy was the best drummer there ever was and likely ever will be.
how the actual flip
Anyone else notice the young trumpet player on the far left of the section sitting next to Snookie Young?
+CC Rider Maury Harris, I believe.
I've never seen Buddy Rich play someone else's drums...I think what we just witnessed is tantamount to taking someone's lunch money:)
+michael mattice He did it on Merv Griffin sometimes - the kit looked like it was about ready to fall apart.
Hardly.
NBC cheaping out, not renting a back line kit for BR's appearance. If Horowitz had been booked, NBC would've supplied him with an upright piano. Cheap, tacky, no excuse.
Buddy Rich was on fire on this
night...I'm sure Ed Shaunessy
was traumatized after that performance!...I mean,...how
do continue to play the gig
after that! He got "owned"on
his own drum kit!!! No disrespect
to Ed,but...how do you top
Buddy after that display!!!
Its true!
hahaha!
***** It's True!
He did get owned! Buddy played really well on the large kit. Utilizing all of the toms too!
Ed and Buddy were pals. Ed was well aware of Buddy's abilities and had learned from him just like the rest of us
@@ajn465 Yep, both those guys were way past who "owned who" or who was best. Buddy ALWAYS had the chops and they both knew it. Ed didn't have to travel on the road later in life....'cuz he could read music. ;)
Buddy doesn't play a big kit because you could not see that massive ego.......to bad he never grew out of swing into say a Tony William type group......after viewing many Buddy tapes the over and over same killer licks get old and the swing over and over gets more boring......a more balanced and sophisticated jazz playing for Buddy.......would even better and more interesting.....
Buddy had to climb a ladder to get to Ed's crash cymbals - at least a half foot higher than Buddy kept his. I really don't understand the comparisons between Krupa and Rich. When I watch Krupa, he is more show than substance, but Buddy was a technician extraordinaire. Even Marie couldn't lie to Gene when he asked her if she thought Buddy was the better drummer. Actually, I don't think she wanted to answer, but not doing so spoke volumes to GK.
Never been into this ''big band'' stuff, but fuck me, what a drummer! Always loved his playing.
The Greatest !!!!!
fuck me. .......His speed was incredible.
I never saw this, so now I know how B would attack these 24 piece drumsets so popular today. Crappy sounding drums, though. I think B hit every drum, too.
It's a little awkward playing on someone else's kit, but not too awkward. The one thing that *is* awkward about playing on a strange kit is the foot pedal. A wide range of how drummer's adjust them, and everyone does it to their own liking. If you like a loose pedal and find yourself playing on a tight pedal (or the reverse), yeah, you're going to suffer, but drum placement doesn't really matter that much.
Chops galore yes but it's his mind and musicality that makes Buddy one of a kind.
I always wanted to see this guy play a bigger drumset. Any good drummer keeps to the fundamentals with out over playing but buddy rich could of used either his 5 piece or larger kit to work with on different gigs.
simply the best! there will never be another like buddy....ever!!👍
This is what Lars Ulrich dreams about every night
***** hahaha
How DARE you play like that for me blowin CLAMS all over the motherfuckn joint
YOU MEAN BUDDIE;'S RANK ON THE BUS. NO CLAMS IN THAT DOC'S BAND!
No one even comes close...
Originally recorded by Count Basie, Buddy got hold of this chart and took it to another dimension.
So am I the only one who thought he was wearing blackface from looking at the thumbnail?
Even the temple blocks at the end were the right pitch. Buddy will always be the greatest!!!
HA! I noticed that too!
WOW, Buddy Rich playing a huge kit ! tho i doubt he touched the other base drum.
Who cares ????? Can you play like him ?????? No !!!!!!!
Just an observation, no need to be offensive.
He may not have hit the second kick but I DID notice he made the effort to go up and down the high extra toms at least once. He could've played the kit as a 3 piece and it still would've sounded like a million drum hurricane.
lynyrddeville i noticed that too. Which is a good indicator that he could've played a larger kit. But im assuming he kinda like punk drummers use at little as possible. Less is more approach. It is cool to see him behind a large kit like this one.
Damn seventies. Could we put anymore duct tape on those toms?Good 'ol duct tape!
Thanks for sharing!
When you start to complain over the drumset is not set up properly, or there is something wrong with the sound, Just think of Buddy, he just played well all the time!
Does anyone know the rest of the Sax section aside from Ernie Watts ?
Drummers will be watching him for eternity saying," what the heck did he just do"? Miss you Buddy!!! There will never be another.
Ahhh... Ernie Watts on Sax! Now those are the reasons I watched Johnny Carson, Merv Griffin, Mike Douglas, etc. shows. They had a real LIVE working band. One of the best schools to be had for free!
I played this in Jazz Lab in HS....fun piece
for some fun new road stories: Google: BUDDY RICH / LOUIE BELLSON TRUE ROAD STORIES by protégé & personal valet Alan Dale Brent Holland
What I want to know is: How the HELL DID HE DO THAT? Goddamn! Buddy Rich was the ultimate drummer! I like how he kissed Ed Shaughnessy after ht played Ed's kit! I can hear Buddy thinking "man, Ed plays his crashes a bit high up!" I could see him reaching up for them,and he looked slightly uncomfortable doing that! LOL. Funny, I play an old Rogers set from that era or even before, but with today's heads, it POUNDS! Remember, this was set up for big band jazz though. Also a Zildjian A is a friggin' Zildjian A forever--trashy, dry, short sustaining even in big sizes, not able to cut even when miked up, and just the reason I switched to Paiste 2002's years ago and never looked back--don't get me wrong, Zildjian makes durable, good quality stuff, it just tends to SOUND like shit. Although their latest offerings and lines are MILES further advanced than the old A's. I had a pair of A NEW BEAT hi hats like Buddy played for so many years, and they were the most awful hats I ever owned, except for the spun-brass crap made in Taiwan that came with my Rogers kit when I bought it in 1981! And when I hear Buddy play them, he can't really make them sound any better! They felt like hitting a 60 pound anvil when played closed, and went 'tick tick tick' when played tight, but when you loosened them up a little they went 'thuk thuk thuk', instead ot 'tss tss tss'! Then you 'barked' them, it was a low-pitched, trashy, dirty sound with no cut. The top cymbal wasn't that thick, but pedal playing felt like it weighed 100 pounds! i never heard a set of New Beats, in any size that were worth a shit. The fact Buddy got ANY sound out of these slugs is amazing. When you crashed them open, they went 'tooooonnnnggg!' I swear, they were made of melted-down yellow brass from old faucets instead of the claimed B-20 bell-metal bronze! And every drummer who knows a thing about cymbals knows brass is a NO-NO in cymbals! In fact, the best sounding pair of Zildjian hats I ever owned was an old 15" Quick Beat bottom with the 4 "air release" holes--which were of dubious service at releasing air, so I put in 4 nickle-plated brass screws with truss heads and used 4 lightweight steel PAL nuts in the acorn nut design. Gave the bottom cymbal some sizzle like rivets! THEN, I took the top cymbal from my 15" AMIR hi hat (made of B-8 alloy like a Paiste 2002) and cross-matched it to the old B-20 Quick beat bottom with the 4 "rivets", and they would SING! The AMIR pair also sounded good--not low pitched and 'hollow' like the New Beats did. Rather, bright, crisp, and sweet. Once I went to Paiste 2002, I have been in 'Cymbal heaven' ever since! They do all I want and have a bright sound that cuts like a knife and sustains long so you HEAR them! They are also beautiful to look at, the reddish color, and the hammering and the way cool logos, and they stay clean, unlike Zildjians that you have to clean all the time and even then they still always look dirty! It's amazing what these great drummers did with literal crap in cymbals and even drums and hardware! But even /buddy Rich couldn't make a trashy old A Zildjian sound like anything but a trashy old A Zildjian--it's the nature of the beast! Cheers!
I was thinking the same thing about Buddy's aversion to the cymbals being too high. The expression on his face (at times) is something every drummer has felt when playing someone else's drum set. I'm sure it being set up for double bass didn't help either.
You should be Paid handsomely for that education and critique....because it's dead on correct. Thank you!
The master!! There will never be another pair of hands like that again!
Dan Maroff Thanks for sharing!
I think it's wrong to try to profit with advertising on a clip that you stole from the JC show. That's bs.
Michelle M Hi Michelle!
I have no profit on RUclips!
Thanks!
don't EVEN compare him w/others..... certainly one-of-a-kind, who set the bar REALLY HIGH!!! so glad he was 'round in MY lifetime -being able to see him perform live & on tv!! thanks for posting!
+dosanchoas Thanks for coments !
Suggestion: look up Admiral Halsey/Uncle Albert (yes, the latter is the Beatles tune, "We're so sorry, Uncle Albert..."
There are at least two notable versions. One on iTunes off of the album "Stick it," the other from the DVD "Live at the top."
In the first, there's an effing phenomenal semi fill/pick-up (half-fill) at the 2:30 time mark. Watch your timer. Be aware that it's slightly distorted in horn frequency. The build at 2:22. Super-nice push at 2:30. The feel is just incredible...then amazing the resolve at 2:35-2:40. 99% percent of all drummers would have drummed themselves right into a corner they couldn't resolve by trying to mash too much in there.
It's like watching Mario Andretti drive or Mike Jordan play ball. And I don't care about any sport other than drumming...
On the Dvd, he's got two nice bits. The extremely simple three-hour feel with the phenomenonal feel, and the way the tempo switches.
Note the change to Admiral Halsey (fast stuff) sounds a whole lot like Danny Seraphine in Chicago. He liked Danny's playing a great deal. Watch how the fights the band in tempo at the 7:12 minute mark...cool.
That song's Paul McCartney and Wings. The Beatles never did Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
those were the days.
Buddy rich could get more from a six piece kit than most drummers would get out of their entire career.
All I know is that if Buddy Rich (or any other legendary drummer) was going to use *my* drums for a gig, I'd replace all the batter heads afterwards before I played them again. I just wouldn't feel worthy of playing on the same surface as they did, lol. Of course, I'd get them to autograph at least one of the heads as well! ;)
Matt W Buddy preferred Remo Diplomat heads. The lightest (thinnest) heads available at the time. This tune "Ya Gotta Try" was from his "Buddy Rich Plays and Plays and Plays" album. If you can find a copy, pick it up. Some of his finest playing with one of his best line-ups.
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I'll have to keep an eye out for that! As much as I'm not into Jazz/Swing/Big Band music, I appreciate quality musicianship and so that's my main reason for watching these classic groups. Plus it takes you back in time when you watch the videos! I'm surprised Buddy didn't break heads super often if he used Diplomats. Yeah, I know they're typically tuned quite a bit higher in Big Band Jazz than they are in Rock, but Diplomats are still quite thin!
What I think is funny is how high that 12" tom is tuned. People today barely put any tension on the drums, and heaven forbid they tune the resonant head higher than the batter to get that punchy big band/"tympani" (Think "John Bonham"/Led Zeppelin II) kind of tom sound.
Almost everyone I know either match them or tune the batter higher. It makes the drum sound like a cardboard box to me.
Yes!
"Yeah I'll just use Ed's kit" lol Unreal.
Buddy hated rock....he preferred the rock glass filled with scotch style lounge music....he once said "a hotel lounge is where it's at"....see where that got ya
He sits in on someone else's drumset which was a good bit different than his. I bet he didn't adjust anything. Then he proceded to kick ass. There will never be another Buddy. He was drummer/musician/entertainer bar none.
this entire band is amazing, holy shit, everyone is a master at their instrument
Wow. At 2:29! Buddy Rich IS the best drummer in my opinion so damn good! I wish I could have seen him live, but sadly I wasn’t even born lol. Thanks for uploading !
I think if I watched it at 1/10th speed, I still wouldn't be able to figure out what he played@ 2:29!
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Thanks for sharing Ethan!
The Tonight Show Band playing this Sammy Nestico classic "Ya Gotta try".
As great as this band was, this performance does not equal Buddy's own recording on 1977's "Buddy Rich Plays and Plays", a grammy nominee. That was THE quintessential version.
BTW that was Ernie Watts on alto, who was in Buddy's band when he started up in '66.
Hi Andrew! Yes you're right - the great Ernie Watts, although he was playing tenor on this.
@@erikthunderclap5717 thanks Erik
That was indeed the sound of a tenor
Bruce Paulson was in that band also
of course its awesome.....he seems a little out of place with so much gear though. I dunno, this maybe the first time ive seen him with all that.
That was Ed Shaughnessy's, the drummer of the tonight show band, drum set.
jeffreygodspeed ahhhhhh I totally forgot to put that together. thanks man
Who is the first tenor soloist?
The second is Ernie Watts.
I first thought Lew Tabackin but someone mentioned earlier it was Bill Perkins. Yes Ernie is highly recognizable.
I was always more of a louie bellson fan, father of the double kick drums. had some tasty licks, wasn't as droning and was very humble, as well. nobody could do that push/pull thing with their left hand like rich, but his ginormous ego ruined it for me.
He was watching the MASTER AT WORK, of course. Probably trying to figure out how he does what he does! Something I have been trying to do for the past 50 years!
He seems to have been doing that with his own big band, not with the regular Tonight Show guys. I didn’t see Doc, Conte, Snooky, Gil, Tommy, Pete any of the other guys.
That's the shit!
Thanks for share!
That snare roll starting @ 2:28 is absolutely insane. I have watched and listened to more Buddy than I care to admit and that's the most amazing snare work I have heard yet. His 1977 recording from a concert in Europe is him at his peak. Its an import and if u can find it and its truly worth the money. His solo on channel one suite is the benchmark of a drum solo. Absolutely amazing. I have listened it to it many many times and I still hear something new that I didn't before. Truly gifted and will never be topped as far as jazz and all around playing ability is concerned. He was the best and will always be the best bar none. Enjoyed it!!!
I thought the very same thing about that snare roll.... I was startled by it... somehow faster, cleaner, and more explosive than anything I have heard him play over the couple decades I have been into Buddy. It sticks out like a sore thumb... he outplays himself... I wonder if he noticed...
I thought the very same thing about that snare roll.... I was startled by it... somehow faster, cleaner, and more explosive than anything I have heard him play over the couple decades I have been into Buddy. It sticks out like a sore thumb... he outplays himself... I wonder if he noticed...
I thought the very same thing about that snare roll.... I was startled by it... somehow faster, cleaner, and more explosive than anything I have heard him play over the couple decades I have been into Buddy. It sticks out like a sore thumb... he outplays himself... I wonder if he noticed...
Its one of those times when he's just in the moment you know. And lets not forget the fact that he is playing on Ed Shaughnessy's kit of all things. Would have loved to have seen him live. Once again....he will never be outdone. Just amazing!!
not just buddy,but the whole band ! when people actually played music and musical instruments,not just sampling other peoples songs and patting themselves on the back for their genius.
As a drummer, and respectfully, theres something truly frightening about seeing Buddy Rich sitting behind a double bass kit.
I can drum this good if i just don't care about anything else! :) (& if you believe me, this is where the real conversation begins!)
Buddy Rich plays "Ed" Shaughness's drums ! He plays only the drums he wants and ignores the others
the best! enough said ..... RIP
Buddy looks so small behind the big kit..
He always showed , why drummers didn’t need big kits.
shawny's kit sounds horrible.
i saw ed give a clinic and his drums sounded so good, but not on the tonight show.
Very fast, but cant compare to Mr.Neil Peart. Peart's just a little more creative and melodic. Plus , hes fast too !!!
I see Ernie Watts on sax. He was in Buddy's band when they did The Rotten Kid with Buddy Greco. Was he in the Tonight Show band at that time?
RICH ALUMNI IN THIS BAND; ERNIE WATTS SAX JOEL DEBARTOLO GUITAR, BRUCE PAULSON TROMBONE WHO PLAYED LEAD WITH THE MILLER BAND BEFORE RICH.
I wonder why he didn't use both bass drums in the solo?
Perfect opportunity to do so.
He did play 3 solos in 1949 using only 2 bass drums that were all recorded.
That was nuts. Rich was so fast.
exploding ceramic cymbal ? Get b33t up Da b33t lab Dennis Stone drumming